Time Nick Message 00:40 chris who wants to sign off a patch for me? 00:54 irmaB Chris Hi 00:54 chris hi irmaB 00:54 irmaB CALYX is on holidays for 3 weeks from 17/12. 00:54 chris ahh cool 00:54 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Update Debian changelog for 3.2.1 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eaddd603e4d878aa75622acd8191474499ca77d4> 00:55 irmaB I wish to work on bugs and 00:55 irmaB signing off on patches. 00:55 chris cool 00:56 irmaB will speak with Mason tomorrow and sort things out :-) 00:56 irmaB Can't stay away from Koha for 3 weeks! 00:57 irmaB And there is much to do. 00:57 chris heh yep 00:57 chris even someone just working through the open bugs 00:57 chris from 1 up 00:57 chris and sorting them out 00:59 irmaB oops lost connection. 01:00 hudsonbot Starting build 198 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 4 hr ago) 01:35 munin New commit(s) kohagit: (BUG #4806) circ/circulation.tmpl: Add "reservenumber" in the reserved table. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=122bc589e7f6e3607c0368a55fd9304596f6f7c3> 01:49 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #198: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/198/ 01:49 hudsonbot Robin Sheat: Update Debian changelog for 3.2.1 release 01:50 hudsonbot Starting build 199 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 5 hr ago) 02:11 chris hi ray 02:14 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #199: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/199/ 02:14 hudsonbot Alex Arnaud: (BUG #4806) circ/circulation.tmpl: Add "reservenumber" in the reserved table. 03:00 hudsonbot Starting build 200 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 6 hr ago) 03:05 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug_4218' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c49dc072aa987f4db6bb523492b28b0e18451549> / Fix for Bug 4218 - Staff client detail page does not show item hold status <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6466ac847fadd23ab7941bbca49424c87d382e6e> 03:21 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #200: STILL UNSTABLE in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/200/ 03:21 hudsonbot Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4218 - Staff client detail page does not show item hold status 03:25 munin New commit(s) kohagit: (bug #5154) fix most checkouts report <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=666cc03bd38f5932e96d7b5ff151e097f93cb4e6> 03:30 hudsonbot Starting build 201 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 6 hr ago) 03:51 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #201: STILL UNSTABLE in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/201/ 03:51 hudsonbot Nahuel ANGELINETTI: (bug #5154) fix most checkouts report 04:12 cait morning #koha 04:13 robin g'day 04:15 hudsonbot Starting build 202 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 7 hr ago) 04:15 munin New commit(s) kohagit: (bug #3575) fix opac-detail.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=38a1526a740b506e87c0aa296014f2feb1c00c0f> 04:17 cait oh, chris still pushing patches? 04:17 cait hi robin :) 04:18 robin I think he's left just this minute, so probably won't be pushing more at least until he gets home. 04:21 cait :) 04:21 cait and you are still at work? 04:22 robin yeah. I start late, work late. He does the opposite. 04:24 cait I am more the start late type too, but get up early and do some things at home before work 04:29 robin in my case I spend a solid hour sitting around eating breakfast very slowly waking up. 04:29 robin And then another 30 minutes procrastinating. 04:31 cait hehe 04:32 cait is reading blogs, watching news and surfing the web procrastinating? probably :) 04:33 robin I'm counting it :) 04:33 cait ah, chris wants me to rebase... perhaps not only procrastinating today 04:33 * robin is currently writing a "merge your Koha system with a Z39.50 server" tool to help get cleaner data in migrations. 04:34 kmkale good morning #koha 04:34 cait hi kmkale 04:34 kmkale hi cait 04:34 kmkale robin that sounds exiting 04:34 cait get data via z39.50 for records from your system? 04:35 kmkale i usually get huge data as either database or spreadsheet to migrate to Koha as part of work for Granthalaya.org 04:35 kmkale will this tool help? 04:35 robin cait: yeah, looks them up via ISBN (and ISSN when I get there) and can merge selected MARC fields from the results. 04:35 kmkale oh 04:36 cait how many hits do you get? 04:36 robin kmkale: possibly. It's intended to be used once it's imported into Koha, and will clean them up when they're there. 04:36 robin cait: it depends on a) what sort of library you are and b) what sort of library you're querying against. 04:36 kmkale not with the data I get. In over 750000 records imported havent seen 10% with ISBN 04:36 cait good point 04:36 cait s 04:37 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #202: STILL UNSTABLE in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/202/ 04:37 hudsonbot Nahuel ANGELINETTI: (bug #3575) fix opac-detail.pl 04:37 robin just looking through a small sample while testing, I was probably getting 30% hits or so. 04:38 robin it also cleans the ISBN up in the hope that that helps, but the data I'm using at the moment seems to have come from a catalogue source in the past, so that doesn't help here. 04:40 cait oh no, someone made my inbox explode by 20 mb attachements 04:40 robin ah doh 04:40 cait wondered why I can't send the patch via this address 04:40 cait not even zipped 04:43 robin grr. MARC is hard. 04:44 cait yeah, it is 04:46 * cait really needs to find a domain and get some real email addresses 04:47 robin domains are cheap. 04:49 cait I kno 04:49 cait w 04:49 cait I even get 10 with my hosting package 04:50 robin that's a lot of domains. 04:50 cait yeah, but I can't decide for a name 04:51 robin ah. Just create one and stick with it :) 04:51 cait hmpf. 04:51 robin I assume things like 'katrin.de' are long gone :) 04:52 cait hm no. 04:52 cait but having my name seems a bit strange tome 04:53 robin fair enough 04:54 robin I just picked a name years back, and stuck with it. 04:54 cait what is it? 04:54 robin kallisti.net.nz 04:54 cait what is kallisti? 04:57 robin http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/24.php 05:02 cait hm strange, the files it complained for chris are totally different to mine 05:02 cait I only had to solve a conflict in updatedatabase 05:04 cait oh no... forgot to do git pull :( 05:05 robin oops :) 05:05 cait hm but still applies 05:05 cait don't have to resend it then, right? 05:06 robin I'm not sure. 05:06 robin it could be chris was doing something funny, in which case if he tries again it may work. 05:06 robin Or maybe not :) 05:08 cait I have no idea 05:08 cait will try to ask him later 05:08 cait might be this webmail things fault 05:08 cait but can't send via git because the lines in the sql files are too long 05:08 robin yeah, that's a bit of a pain. 05:09 robin it could be worth gzip'ing it maybe. 05:09 robin just to avoid munging on the way through the mail system 05:09 cait or send it with a real mail program.. but have to get it on the other computer for that 06:54 chris nope, your patch still wont apply, i think your mailer is busting it 06:54 chris error: installer/data/mysql/uk-UA/mandatory/system_preferences_full_optimal_for_install_only.sql: patch does not apply 06:54 chris Did you hand edit your patch? 06:54 chris It does not apply to blobs recorded in its index. 06:54 chris is what its telling me 06:55 chris either gzip it, or use a real mail programme :) 06:55 cait hi chris 06:55 cait no, no hand edit 06:55 chris no thats what git things 06:55 chris thinks, not me 06:55 cait did git pull, git rebase origin/master and git format-patch 06:56 chris yep, it must be your mailer 06:56 cait ok, I am going to copy the files to my usb stick and try mailing from work 06:56 chris either that, or just push it up to your repo 06:56 chris and ill pull from there 06:56 cait that's a good idea 06:56 chris thats what i always do if its too long for git-send-email 06:56 cait much easier :) 06:57 cait give me a minute 06:58 chris http://mako.cc/writing/hill-when_free_software_isnt_better.html 06:58 chris good essay 06:58 cait I am pushing 1997 and bug 3381 06:58 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3381 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add an IntranetUserCSS system preference 06:58 chris cool 07:00 cait done :) 07:02 cait will update 3381 and point to repo 07:02 chris cool 07:02 chris pushed up 1997 07:03 chris ive made a new status as well 07:03 fredericd chris: I've seen your signed-off demands... 07:03 fredericd I've transmitted a demand to hdl 07:03 chris :-) 07:04 fredericd bug 5041 07:04 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5041 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Non repeatable fields are not deletable 07:04 chris tried to do a bit of a clean up today 07:04 fredericd could be tested by anybody 07:04 chris bugs with patches sent 07:04 chris cool 07:04 cait chris: yep, saw your mails 07:04 chris there is a new status too 07:04 chris signed off 07:04 cait and patch pushed 07:04 cait ;) 07:04 chris yep 07:05 chris so if you sign off a patch and want to update the bug to signed off, that would be great 07:05 cait yeah, I think now we really have a status for each step 07:05 chris yup 07:05 chris so can do searches 07:05 fredericd cait: bug 5041, could you take a look at it. 07:05 cait munin? 07:05 ibot munin is power mad 07:05 munin ibot: Error: "is" is not a valid command. 07:05 ibot i already had it that way, munin. 07:05 cait lol 07:05 cait bug 5041 07:06 cait it refuses 07:06 fredericd cait: what do you mean? 07:06 cait munin doesn't show the explanation for the bug number 07:06 munin cait: Error: "doesn't" is not a valid command. 07:07 chris thats because he already did 07:07 chris just before 07:08 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_1997' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=906a1a03ac023aae4f2f51ce72338ab2035e1d8d> / Bug 1997: new OPACNoResultsFound pref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ddde74e10e355646cda62fc6138ab259aab56fcf> / Bumping db version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0c5d74f06e81da63e1a931416341c9d 07:08 cait fredericd: I have not much time today and tomorrow 07:09 chris oh thats a simple one 07:09 chris i can sign that one off 07:09 cait can try to do it, but no promise 07:09 cait ah good 07:10 cait and next thing is I still have not figured out how to get a proper patch out of a mailing list list 07:10 cait link 07:10 fredericd chris: Have you seen my patch with a screencast attached to it? 07:11 fredericd For such a patch, you need a special Koha configuration with loaded data 07:11 chris nope which bug was that for? 07:11 cait wow 46 bugs need sign-off 07:12 fredericd bug 4838 07:12 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4838 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Repeated authority headings break biblio record data entry form 07:12 fredericd you need UNIMARC + multilingual authorities 07:12 fredericd I'm not even sure Biblibre can test, I don't know 07:14 chris ahh yeah that is a tricky one 07:14 cait chris: can I change bug 4506 to signed-off now? not sure what to do now after Colin qa's - I have some small additions in mind, like a sys pref, but could do that as separate bugs 07:14 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Add support of record linking by record control number in $w 07:14 chris cait: there were 350 that have patch pushed, and no status set 07:14 chris i think about 320 now 07:14 cait ouch 07:14 chris i was working through them this afternoon 07:15 cait all "patch pushed plz test and close"? 07:15 hudsonbot Starting build 203 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 10 hr ago) 07:15 chris cait: nope, some are some have never been pushed 07:16 chris some have been pushed, but never had a message set 07:16 cait ah yeah, came across some of those 07:16 chris so i have to search git to see if its pushed 07:16 chris then update it 07:16 cait and some have only been pushed to 3.0.x 07:16 chris id like to get everything into one of the statuses 07:16 cait that makes sense 07:16 chris and yes, that can be set to signed off 07:16 cait most of the patches might need a rebase 07:17 cait ok 07:17 chris yeah 07:17 chris id like it so i can just search for signed off 07:17 chris and others can search for need sign off 07:17 cait yeah, I like it too 07:17 cait makes search for things very easy now 07:17 chris yeah\ 07:17 cait chris++ :) 07:17 chris so we can see how many are waiting on me, or on qa, or whatever 07:18 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5041 Allow to delete non-repeatable field <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=565b780becd291d29d768e4851d3935b3cb19751> 07:18 chris this is the kind of thing id like the bug wranglers to do 07:18 cait I will try to do some more 07:19 chris thank you 07:19 cait but not sure how today and tomorrow will go - have some homework from my writing course and organising our christmas party at work 07:19 chris thats fine 07:19 chris just whenever you get a chance 07:19 cait will do 07:19 cait and complain if I do something wrong :) 07:19 chris i only had a bit of time today because there was nothing urgent 07:19 cait you are much faster at that than me 07:19 chris and i wanted to see if it would work, i think it will 07:19 cait hope people give feedback about their bugs 07:20 cait chris: perhaps if you have some time we can look at the template toolkit things? 07:20 cait I have problems with the branch no 07:20 cait w 07:21 chris http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2010/12/11/its-nearly-christmas/ 07:21 cait can't get it working :( 07:21 chris that weird missing html::template thing? 07:21 chris yeah, i have no idea about that 07:21 cait I did a git fetch git rebase catalyst/template-test right now 07:21 cait and now I get a new error 07:22 chris git fetch catalyst eh? 07:22 cait will try again mom 07:22 cait Current branch catalyst_template-test is up to date. 07:23 cait Template process failed: file error - /home/katrin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/de-DE/modules/auth.tt: not found at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 101. 07:23 cait ah, I think I see the problem no 07:23 cait it's the language detection bug 07:23 chris ah yep 07:23 chris that makes sense 07:24 cait hah, it works now! 07:24 cait changed my browser settings to en 07:24 chris ah right, thats worth noting in your wiki and we can hopefully get chris to fix that too 07:25 cait hm, I had checked DE - will retest without it and update the bug before noting on the wiki 07:26 chris ta 07:28 cait yeah 07:28 cait it breaks 07:29 cait unset de-DE, saved, changed browser settings to be German as first choice and a refresh breaks the page 07:29 cait hmpf. 07:30 chris right, so its still trying to do the detect 07:30 cait which is bad 07:30 cait because peple sometimes do not update the other templates 07:31 cait or do customizations to en but not to the other template files and forget copying the css files over to those directories 07:32 chris yeah 07:32 chris i think we probably should just disable that 07:32 chris and make it so people have to choose the language 07:32 cait the problem is - showing th elanguage choser is an option 07:33 chris its a good idea, but causes more problems 07:33 cait yes 07:33 cait or make it only work for selected languages 07:33 chris yep 07:33 cait but people really should activate the language chooser in such situations 07:33 chris yes 07:33 cait going to buy some fennel for my salat tomorrow - will be back before going to work 07:34 chris :) 07:41 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #203: STILL UNSTABLE in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/203/ 07:41 hudsonbot * Nicole Engard: Bug 1997: new OPACNoResultsFound pref 07:41 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bumping db version 07:41 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 1997: new OPACNoResultsFound pref 07:41 hudsonbot * Frédéric Demians: Bug 5041 Allow to delete non-repeatable field 07:45 cait guess... 07:45 cait they had ordered fennel as always but it wasn't delivered 07:47 cait hmpf! 07:47 chris theres tons in our garden 07:48 cait chris: can you send some? ;) 07:48 cait or just trying to bring me back to nz? 07:48 cait have to run to work now - see you all later :) 07:48 chris you can have it all 07:48 chris i hate fennel :) 07:48 cait most people do 07:49 cait perhaps you should not grow it then :) 07:49 cait bye 08:24 kf I got a desk full of xmas presents :) 08:24 kf but sadly not for me - for our "wichteln" tomorro 08:28 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5416, Template syntax error in moredetails.tmpl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=554b6ad34056cd3ab166b244c200720c17f2d891> 08:30 hudsonbot Starting build 204 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 11 hr ago) 08:38 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5313 - allow creation of libraries with hyphens <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4f4c4eceb3e4d6b01a87c4c5dbb65df24fcc0638> 08:48 kf chris: still busy? :) 08:52 chris does it look like it? :-) 08:55 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #204: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/204/ 08:55 hudsonbot Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5416, Template syntax error in moredetails.tmpl 08:56 hudsonbot Starting build 205 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 12 hr ago) 08:59 kf chris: yeah, it does 09:00 kf :) 09:04 chris :) 09:10 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5228 - make rebuild_zebra handle fixing the zebra dirs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8de1ef7e94b37f343b5a1896b1ab06950ee83530> 09:20 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5208, Language chooser missing on Batch item deletion/modification <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b53b14bacfdd276c3188de2f76ed03201a0cab0> 09:21 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #205: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/205/ 09:21 hudsonbot Robin Sheat: Bug 5313 - allow creation of libraries with hyphens 09:21 hudsonbot Starting build 206 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 12 hr ago) 09:45 * kf tries to summon chris 09:45 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #206: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/206/ 09:45 hudsonbot * Robin Sheat: Bug 5228 - make rebuild_zebra handle fixing the zebra dirs 09:45 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5208, Language chooser missing on Batch item deletion/modification 10:00 hudsonbot Starting build 207 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 13 hr ago) 10:00 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_4218' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cce6deef8e673dff4e709d38a19a16649d14449> / Bug 4218: Fixes display problem introduced by last patch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd26d056283e5a98bfcf655c5f956faedfb258e4> 10:10 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5150 change issuing to circ & fine rules <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b36fafe8c21e55367d139ca1823d5e51b3280ba> 10:14 chris well that should do for now 10:16 * chris goes to bed 10:20 kf monday-- 10:20 kf good night chris 10:21 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #207: STILL UNSTABLE in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/207/ 10:21 hudsonbot Katrin Fischer: Bug 4218: Fixes display problem introduced by last patch 10:22 hudsonbot Starting build 208 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 13 hr ago) 10:43 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #208: STILL UNSTABLE in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/208/ 10:43 hudsonbot Nicole Engard: bug 5150 change issuing to circ & fine rules 11:37 kf missing_qa_contact-- 12:01 kmkale hi all 12:56 gmcharlt good morning 12:56 jwagner morning, gmcharlt 12:57 kf hi gmcharlt 12:58 kmkale hi gmcharlt 12:58 kf gmcharlt++ 12:58 kmkale hi kf 12:58 kmkale hi jwagner 12:58 gmcharlt kf: ? 12:58 druthb haven't seen you in a while, gmcharlt! :) 12:58 kmkale hi druthb 12:58 gmcharlt I've been on a boat without internet access for the past week 12:58 kf just because :) 12:58 druthb hi, kmkale. 12:59 jwagner vacation++ 12:59 druthb yah, that would explain it, galen. :) 12:59 * jwagner wishes _I_ was on a boat without Internet access.... 12:59 kf this would be a good solution to escape this monday 13:01 kf without writing angry mails or doing other stupid things 13:04 kmkale whats especially wrong about this monday? apart from it being monday.. 13:06 kf a lot of things 13:06 kf but I am scheduled to move tables around for our christmas party now :) 13:06 kmkale christmas party start today? wow! 13:07 druthb ibot: jwagner? 13:07 kf tomorrow 13:07 ibot jwagner is needing a vacation. 13:07 ibot tomorrow is, like, pizza friday 13:07 kf hehe 13:07 jwagner Gee, ibot knows me :-) 13:07 kmkale kf christmas party tomorrow then holidays? 13:08 kf no, only a little party here at work 13:08 druthb ibot: druthb? 13:08 ibot you are way too chirpy for jwagner. 13:08 kmkale :) 13:08 druthb lol 13:08 kf will be back later 13:08 jwagner And ibot DEFINITELY knows druthb! 13:08 druthb hehehehe 13:08 jwagner Harrumph 13:09 druthb Harrumph! 13:11 * druthb is enjoying her new shoes-optional office. 13:13 hdl hi 13:13 ibot what's up, hdl 13:25 owen Happy Monday #koha 13:26 kmkale :) 13:26 kmkale thank god its almost over 13:26 owen @wunder 45701 13:26 munin owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is -8.3�C (8:20 AM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -13.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 1 am EST Tuesday... 13:27 kmkale has anyone had make test problems with mysql passwords having the # character? 13:28 owen That sounds familiar kmkale 13:28 kmkale i set a password for kohaadmin with a # in it and make test failed 13:28 jwagner I remember a problem on a system when the mysql password had an @ character in it. 13:28 jwagner Maybe it doesn't like special chars in that password 13:28 kmkale mut the command line mysql client as well as phpmyadmin take it easily 13:29 kmkale also if i set a pass without # and after make install reset it to a password having # koha web client takes it easily 13:29 kmkale so may be something in the test script? 13:36 kmkale This is what I get "Error: Access denied for user 'booksnmore'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /home/booksnmore/kohaclone/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 692." 14:10 owen Just spent 10 minutes trying to diagnose a broken layout on detail.pl only to realize it was junky markup from Amazon. :P 14:11 nengard amazon-- 14:11 owen Other sites must have that problem too, if Amazon is sending out malformed HTML 14:19 kmkale bye all. Good night 14:24 jcamins Good morning, #koha 14:28 * owen grumbles about a 7-month old pending patch conflicting with a just-pushed one 14:36 hdl owen : same for us but maybe on a larger scale. 14:36 owen Of course 14:37 * owen will still exercise his right to complain 14:37 hdl But the fact that we donot see any actual progress is really frustrating. 14:39 jcamins Does anyone have a computer running IE7 and/or IE9? 14:39 jcamins Wait, there isn't any IE9. 14:39 jcamins IE7? 14:39 owen Just IE8 jcamins 14:40 kf hdl: I think working on theproblems people have pointed out with your brnaches would be a good start 14:40 jcamins Hm. Well, that's the version that should work with the OPAC, anyway. 14:40 jcamins owen: is this page garbled? http://donum.numismatics.org/ 14:40 hdl kf: I have already worked on most of those. 14:40 jcamins owen: (in IE, I mean) 14:40 kf the one sending a patch or branch is responsible to make it work with HEAD - and the time it was created doesn't matter 14:41 owen jcamins: Indeed. 14:41 jcamins Well, at least it's consistent. 14:41 hdl it is nonesense to say it doesnot cope a bug that was not declared. 14:42 hdl at the time it was produced. 14:42 kf it's pointing out there is a problem now 14:43 kf that needs some work to be fixed in current HEAD 14:43 kf I see no problem with that 14:43 owen jcamins: A good starting point would be validating the page 14:43 hdl re doing things all the time doesnot help. 14:44 jcamins owen: just a few errors. 14:45 jwagner jcamins, you're missing a closing /a on line 294 For a more detailed description on the adoption of this new catalog, please see the <a href="http://www.numismatics.org/Library/HistoryOfDONUM" target="_blank">History of DONUM.<br/> 14:45 jcamins Ah, thanks. 14:45 kf I think I am not a good person to talk to today... and I have to get back to christmas decorations 14:45 jcamins jwagner: how did you figure that out? 14:45 kf coworkers are waiting 14:45 jcamins I mean, so quickly. 14:46 jwagner In Firefox, plugin HTML validator, looking at the source 14:46 jwagner nifty plugin that owen pointed me to a while back 14:46 jcamins That fixed it, cool. 14:46 gmcharlt hdl: true, one cannot predict when bugs (or bugfixes) arise; but by effectively asking the release manager to push a patch that is now known to cause a regression, you are asking him to push something known to cause a problem 14:47 gmcharlt that does not strike me as non-nonsensical 14:47 jwagner Yep, looks fine in IE now, although at my screen resolution the mainuserblock text is breaking at odd places. Then again, I have my resolution set lower than most people do. 14:47 hdl gmcharlt: note that i didn't ask that you get that on your branch. 14:48 jcamins jwagner: no, I think it's breaking where it's supposed to. It's... interesting. 14:48 hdl I just said that you could not expect that patch to take that bug into consideration. 14:51 hdl I am ok if the work is slowly integrated. Fact is that i see no progress on that. And we keep working on a different version of koha... And it looks to me as a waste of time for both us and the community. 14:52 gmcharlt hdl: well, responding more promptly to QA feedback would benefit all of us 14:52 gmcharlt and I note that I *am* trying to QA things, which was the entire point of that reports-tested branch 14:54 hdl noted 14:56 hdl I didn't get that you were asking for comments. I thought that you were just stating things. 14:57 hdl and stating the patches you were rejecting and the reasons why. 14:59 hdl To me those statements were just for information, not required a comment... And looking at the way things are getting, i should have sticked to previous position. 15:02 owen kf++ # for submitting a patch for Bug 4160 15:02 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4160 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Currency Conversion dosn't handle rates other than 100 15:05 jcamins Good morning, wizzyrea. 15:05 wizzyrea heya 15:17 owen What, you got better places to be wizzyrea ? 15:18 wizzyrea hehe, apologies for all of the relogging. 15:22 * druthb gets out the velcro. 15:23 jcamins wizzyrea: did you suggest replacing the chocolate chips in those oatmeal cookies with candied ginger and dried cranberries, or did I come up with that all by myself? 15:23 wizzyrea I think I put in dried cranberries, but the ginger I think you came up with by yourself :) 15:23 jcamins Ah. Well, it's delicious! 15:25 wizzyrea it sounds yummy! 15:26 wizzyrea we made pomander oranges this weekend, similar to http://bit.ly/hGRPm6 15:27 owen kf++ # again! For sending a patch for Bug 3381! 15:27 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3381 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add an IntranetUserCSS system preference 15:28 wizzyrea ok that's annoying :( 15:34 kf owen: I got in a strange patch frenzy this saturday night :) 15:35 owen patch_frenzies++ 15:35 magnus_a yay! 15:35 kf owen: hoped you could perhaps resign on the intranetusercss bug? I took your description how to do it from the bug and added the database things :) 15:36 kf not resign... 15:36 kf *sighs+ 15:36 kf monday-- 15:36 kf sign off 15:39 * jwagner sends kf cookies and chocolate 15:39 * jcamins sends kf some coconut-ginger-cranberry-oatmeal cookies. 15:40 kf oh wow 15:40 kf this monday suddenly gets a lot better :) 15:40 jwagner Duck! incoming!!! 15:41 kf huh? 15:41 jwagner incoming fire from all the cookies 15:42 * owen hopes to sign off on a few things today if he can ever get through his inbox 15:45 kf owen: I can totally understand you... 15:49 kf jwagner: ouch 15:50 * kf ducks under her desk and crawl out the office door 15:51 * jcamins pulls out the big guns... gnocchi! 15:51 wizzyrea ! 15:51 * wizzyrea loves gnocchi, almost more than cookies. 15:51 jcamins It's delicious. 15:52 jcamins wizzyrea: http://allrecipes.com//Recipe/sweet-potato-gnocchi/Detail.aspx 15:52 jcamins With the sage butter sauce from this recipe: http://allrecipes.com//Recipe/gnocchi-with-sage-butter-sauce/Detail.aspx 15:53 * wizzyrea 's mind blows: sweet potato gnocchi 15:53 * wizzyrea dies 15:54 jcamins I made 4.6 lbs (2.1 kg?) yesterday. 15:54 wizzyrea I wonder if you can steam the sweet potatoes, since you're not cooking them in a hot enough oven to brown them 15:54 kf we should really have a kohacon in jcamins apartment ;) 15:54 jcamins We just microwave them. 15:54 wizzyrea I do the same thing! 15:54 jcamins Anything that makes them soft. 15:54 * wizzyrea high fives jcamins 15:54 wizzyrea 6 mins vs 30 mins... yeeah 15:55 jcamins You don't even need to scrub the skins, since you're just going to be peeling them to make the gnocchi. 15:55 wizzyrea I would probably peel/dice, then microwave 15:55 wizzyrea I am so making these 15:55 jcamins The problem with that is the edges get dried out. 15:56 wizzyrea hmm, I do it in a covered dish with a lil bit of water, I don't think I've had that problem 15:56 jcamins Ah. 15:56 jcamins That makes sense. 15:56 wizzyrea (that's what I mean when I say "steam them") 15:57 jcamins That's a great idea. I should try that next time. 15:57 wizzyrea this one's great for kids too, since it involves making snakes 15:57 slef Did I imagine a mailing list thread about the next kohacon? 15:57 slef I can't find it now. Only one about timing. 15:58 wizzyrea there's a wiki page for it 15:58 wizzyrea i'll find it for ya 15:58 slef Yeah, I've got that 15:58 wizzyrea ah, hm 15:58 slef http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Conference_Bidding 15:58 slef That the one? 15:58 jcamins slef: there was one about whether the conference should be annual or biennial. 15:59 slef jcamins: yes, that's the thread I saw. OK, so I was dreaming :) 15:59 jcamins slef: either that or I was too efficient about clearing my inbox. 15:59 slef jcamins: that was my worry too :) 15:59 wizzyrea there's another wiki page 15:59 wizzyrea sec 15:59 slef wizzyrea: ooh, thanks! 16:00 wizzyrea but I'm not *certain* about that, I'm having a tickled mind 16:00 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Conference_Bidding 16:00 slef snap! 16:00 wizzyrea there was a thread about this wiki page too 16:00 wizzyrea I think brooke started it? 16:01 kf yep, the discussion page 16:01 kf about rotating countries 16:01 kf ooh, I really have to go home now 16:01 slef kf: :P 16:02 * slef is jealous 16:02 kf slef: will not stop thinking about koha at home - promise ;) 16:02 * slef gets distracted by another broken server :-( 16:02 kf monday-- 16:02 slef I hope everyone has upgraded exim if they use it. 16:05 slef (That is not the problem on this broken server, but was a fun weekend scramble) 16:11 * magnus chucks another log into the fireplace 16:16 * druthb waves to magnus 16:17 schuster 3schuster waves to druthb 16:18 druthb hi, schuster! :) 16:18 schuster back to the land of the living - upper respiratory infection last week out for 3 days 16:19 * magnus waves to druthb and schuster 16:28 owen wizzyrea: Are each of the patches on Bug 5143 meant to be applied? 16:28 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5143 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Subtitles not showing on view_holdsqueue.pl 16:38 owen collum: Sorry about the duplicated effort on bug 4965 16:38 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4965 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gcollum, RESOLVED FIXED, batch delete needs title/author 16:40 owen nengard: Did you tip the bouncer? 16:40 nengard hehe 16:41 owen At least I'm not talking to myself anymore 16:43 nengard was a vpn i was connected to that was not letting me into #koha 17:01 cait hi #koha 17:01 druthb welcome back, cait! 17:01 cait thx druthb 17:09 wizzyrea owen: only attachment 2552 on bug 5143 is meant to be applied 17:09 munin 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=2552&action=edit patch, followup putting the subtitles in the title links, 0002--followup-5143-Additions-to-the-view_holdsqueue.tmp.patch 17:09 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5143 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Subtitles not showing on view_holdsqueue.pl 17:09 jcamins Ooh, nifty. I didn't know that munin knew about attachments. 17:10 wizzyrea me either 17:10 gmcharlt attachment 2552 17:10 gmcharlt attachment 2552 on bug 5143 17:11 gmcharlt hmm 17:13 wizzyrea Attachment 2552 17:13 wizzyrea weird 17:13 wizzyrea lol 17:16 magnus attachment 2533 17:16 munin 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=2533&action=edit patch, Potential fix, 0001-Potential-fix-for-Bug-5143.patch 17:16 magnus attachment 2552 17:16 munin 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=2552&action=edit patch, followup putting the subtitles in the title links, 0002--followup-5143-Additions-to-the-view_holdsqueue.tmp.patch 17:16 wizzyrea he likes you better :) 17:17 magnus maybe munin doesn't like to say the same thing two times in a row? 17:17 owen munin is trying not to spam us I think 17:17 munin owen: Error: "is" is not a valid command. 17:17 ibot i already had it that way, munin. 17:17 magnus attachment 2552 17:17 wizzyrea ah that must be it 17:17 owen attachment 3 17:17 munin 03Attachment 3 was not found or is not accessible. 17:17 owen :) 17:18 magnus is? 17:18 magnus ibot: is? 17:18 magnus never mind 17:18 druthb ibot: ibot? 17:18 ibot hmmm... i am a clever being 17:27 hdl good evening 17:29 owen wizzyrea: I bugged you about bug 5143 in the bug report 17:29 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5143 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED, Subtitles not showing on view_holdsqueue.pl 17:30 hudsonbot Starting build 209 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 20 hr ago) 17:31 cait owen: only attachment 2552 on bug 5143 is meant to be applied 17:31 ibot i already had it that way, cait. 17:31 munin 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=2552&action=edit patch, followup putting the subtitles in the title links, 0002--followup-5143-Additions-to-the-view_holdsqueue.tmp.patch 17:31 wizzyrea just as well, they'd need to be rebased anyway. 17:31 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/biblibre_reports' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5278aa0ca4bb5110741b792b527725280a3ee902> 17:36 nengard okay ... someone please tell me taht I did publish a newsletter in october ... cause i can't find any record of it except for my call for articles 17:38 owen nengard: I can't find one in my email 17:39 nengard how did i do that?? 17:39 nengard i'm so confused 17:39 magnus nengard: i republished on libriotech.no, but now the links are not leading anywhere: http://libriotech.no/node/80 17:39 nengard wow - so I did 17:39 nengard and somehow my post was deleted 17:39 nengard how did I do that?? 17:39 nengard wizzyrea any chance you have a backup with that post on it or something? 17:41 nengard FOUND IT 17:41 nengard restoring it now 17:41 nengard thank you magnus :) links work now 17:41 wizzyrea interesting, I didn't delete it 17:41 nengard i must have 17:41 cait it's monday 13th today - not your fault 17:42 magnus hehe 17:42 nengard i probably had it selected and didn't know i had it selected 17:42 nengard hehe thanks cait :) 17:43 hdl see you folks 17:43 cait @karma monday 17:43 munin cait: Karma for "monday" has been increased 1 time and decreased 10 times for a total karma of -9. 17:44 magnus poor monday, hehe 17:47 nengard time to restart 17:47 nengard brb 17:52 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #209: STILL UNSTABLE in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/209/ 17:52 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: MT2268 : Guided Reports Fix columns.def 17:52 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: Removed two column definitions added in previous patch 17:52 hudsonbot * Alex Arnaud: (MT 3267) Add Homebranch and Holdingbranch search criterion on circulation stat. 17:52 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: follow-up: improve use of home and holding library in circ stats report 17:52 hudsonbot * Jean-André Santoni: Fixes a permission problem in guided reports 17:52 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: MT4578 : remove edit & delete button if the user don't have edit/create report permission 17:52 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: follow-up to reports permissions patch 18:25 cait thx owen 18:25 cait owen++ 18:29 chris Back 18:29 wizzyrea owen: do you use the patron display on the holds queue report? 18:30 wizzyrea do your librarians call folks from that list? 18:30 wizzyrea or do they call when the message pops up that a hold is waiting? 18:32 cait hi chris 18:32 chris Hi cait 18:37 * druthb waves to chris 18:38 cait hm how can I create a search for patch pushed? 18:39 cait I did it for sign-off but now I don't see the option in bugzilla's advanced search 18:42 nengard wizzyrea - new manual updates happening today ... did you ever automate that process? 18:42 nengard of pulling from git to site 18:42 nengard or should i keep telling you? 18:43 chris cait: right down the bottom 18:43 chris There is a drop down 18:43 chris Choose patch status 18:44 chris Then is equal to 18:44 chris And put patch pushed in the textbox 18:49 cait chris: thx, will try 18:51 cait chris: that worked - thx! 18:51 chris Cool 19:03 chris I'm gonna make rss feeds of the 4 searches 19:03 chris To make it easier to spot status changes 19:04 cait i have saved the search - nice bugzilla feature 19:05 cait but rss feeds would be cool 19:07 owen wizzyrea: No, we don't call people from that list. We copy the patron's information from the hold message onscreen onto a paper slip 19:08 cait hi brooke 19:08 Brooke howdy 19:08 Brooke wie gehts? 19:09 cait gut,danke, und dir? 19:09 Brooke good enough for gummint woik 19:11 cait @wunder konstanz 19:11 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -4.0�C (8:00 PM CET on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Rising). 19:11 chris Hi Brooke 19:11 * Brooke salutes Chris with respect. 19:21 chris @wunder wellington nz 19:21 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on December 14, 2010). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 19:22 * cait gets jealous 19:23 magnus @wunder bodo, norway 19:23 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (7:50 PM CET on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 19:23 druthb @wunder 20852 19:23 munin druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is -1.4�C (2:20 PM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993.1 hPa (Rising). 19:25 chris Ok my stop 19:25 chris Bbiab 19:25 paul_p hello world 19:26 paul_p @wunder lille, france 19:26 munin paul_p: The current temperature in Lille, France is -1.0�C (8:00 PM CET on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 19:26 paul_p yes, it's cold here, I confirm (Lille is in the far north of France) 19:27 Brooke bonjour paul 19:28 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:28 cait ;) 19:28 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -6.0�C (8:25 PM CET on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Steady). 19:28 cait wah 19:28 jcamins @wunder 11105 19:28 munin jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 5.0�C (2:26 PM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.16 in 987.4 hPa (Steady). 19:28 paul_p hi brooke & cait é& chris & jcamins & all 19:29 cait 2 degrees colder than 15 minutes ago?? 19:29 cait brrrr 19:29 paul_p wow... cait, your temp is lower than mine in Lille, and I already think it's impossible to leave with a so low temp... 19:30 cait yeah, will not leave my home until tomorrow morning 19:31 cait but at least we had no rain today. Had some bad weather combinations last week - lots of snow + rain - water everywhere. lots of rain - getting cold fast - lots of ice everywhere 19:31 cait was hard to get to work 19:32 cait chris_n: around? 19:32 magnus paul_p: same temp as here ;-) 19:38 chris paul_p: you on a client site? 19:39 paul_p chris, not yet a client. But a university investigating Koha deeply (and paying us to do it with them), to see if they go Koha or not. 19:39 chris cool 19:40 magnus fingers crossed, paul_p ;-) 19:40 chris http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-commits/2010-December/002011.html <-- see that paul_p 19:40 paul_p everything went very well except for serials module, where the library has a *lot* of requirements that Koha does not fill (and, franckly speaking, it would mean rewriting completly the serials module...) 19:40 chris well i think we need more than one serials module 19:41 chris because publics, specials, academics and laws 19:41 magnus chris++ 19:41 chris all have very different requirements 19:41 chris (lots of similarities, but lots of differences too) 19:41 paul_p yes ! 1 module merged. good news. Will be very happy when the other 8/9 will have been as well... 19:42 magnus it's just a database with crazy rules, right? ;-) 19:42 paul_p chris++ 19:42 chris they still need qa 19:42 chris and then we could have a profile 19:42 chris you pick on install 19:42 paul_p maybe, but we don't have (m)any feedback... 19:42 chris thats because no one has qa'd them yet 19:43 * paul_p very annoyed by that and don't know what to do with it :( 19:43 chris its hard because they are all still very very big branches 19:44 paul_p yes, and how could we deal with this ? 19:45 owen A separate branch for each individual bug fix/feature 19:45 chris its hard now, the main thing is never do it again 19:45 chris :) 19:45 chris but to move qa along now 19:45 paul_p owen & chris, yes, that's what we do now. 19:45 chris we talked about meetings at the last general irc meeting 19:46 * paul_p was in his bed, (ill) 19:46 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/RFC_Meetings#QA_session_for_BibLibre_Branches 19:46 chris you should try to make sure this happens, and try to get people to come along 19:47 chris and then try to get them to volunteer to work on a group of patches each 19:47 cait paul_p: I think you or hdl being around would be good - I have not worked on that, because they are too big for me and I don't know what some patches are supposed to do 19:49 cait chris: when I find a bug is not working or there is still a problem - leave it to patch pushed? or delete the status? 19:49 chris delete the status, and patch sent 19:49 chris and put a note saying, doesnt work 19:50 cait it's 4472 - I see a problem in 3.2.1 marc21 staff intranet detail view 19:50 cait oh, with french 19:52 cait I think the patch you pushed to 3.3 is probably missing in 3.2.1 19:52 magnus bug 4472 19:52 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4472 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW, img tags in xslt broken after automatic translation 19:52 * Brooke lays out a trail of chocolates to snare cait into chairing the QA meeting... 19:52 cait no way Brooke 19:52 chris right, note all that down and it will help chris_n` a lot 19:53 cait Imight perhaps attend, but not chair 19:53 cait yeah, I did - he is still hiding from me :) 19:53 Brooke I'm not above groveling. 19:53 chris heh 19:53 cait not really, but tried to catch him online for some days no 19:53 cait w 19:54 chris i think he might be taking a well deserved break 19:54 cait Brooke: these branches are a bit above my head 19:54 cait @lastseen chris_n 19:54 munin cait: Error: "lastseen" is not a valid command. 19:54 cait @seen chris_n 19:54 wizzyrea @seen chris_n 19:54 munin cait: chris_n was last seen in #koha 5 days, 7 hours, 1 minute, and 17 seconds ago: * chris_n sends along regrets for missing the meeting this morning 19:54 wizzyrea \ 19:54 munin wizzyrea: chris_n was last seen in #koha 5 days, 7 hours, 1 minute, and 17 seconds ago: * chris_n sends along regrets for missing the meeting this morning 19:55 owen paul_p: I'm eager to test your OPAC branch but searching is still broken 19:55 nengard okay i know i've asked this before - but i just updated to head and ran the db update that added OPACNoResultsFound (as well as other things) ... now when i look at the commit it says it's in a branch not in master ... so if I'm not on that branch why did my db update? or did it get pushed to master 19:56 chris where are you looking at the commit? 19:57 chris http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=summary 19:57 chris cos i see it in master right there 20:01 nengard in my email :) 20:01 nengard so i just didn't get that email yet 20:01 nengard thanks chris! 20:01 owen "although there is an option to export MARC in Liberty, it seems you have to pay extra to have that turned on." Boy that sounds familiar 20:01 nengard so it's in master - aka my 3.4 manual not my 3.2 manual 20:02 chris owen: yeah 20:02 chris antifeatures-- 20:03 chris right, gotta write up my topics for this summers open source academy 20:04 chris we have 17 high school students coming in for a 2 week academy 20:04 magnus cool 20:05 magnus get'em while they're young! 20:06 cait chris: I am so jealous of them 20:06 * Brooke muses if she can pass for a high schooler... 20:06 cait :) 20:08 chris heh 20:09 chris have to wait til next summer, full up this year 20:09 chris im gonna get them writing unit tests 20:09 chris its the easiest way to learn 20:09 chris and they will be able to get a patch into koha that way 20:09 jcamins chris: first one's free? 20:10 chris well ill take anyones unit tests 20:10 chris 1/ it cant actually break koha 20:10 chris 2/ its a test!!! 20:10 jcamins And don't forget, once your name is listed as a committer to Koha, you have motivation to make your commit statistics look more impressive? ;) 20:11 magnus hehe 20:11 cait which reminds me ohloh needs an update ;) 20:12 cait chris: can we register for next year? 20:12 chris jcamins: exactly :) 20:12 chris hehe, well we have 2 programmes 20:12 nengard okay 3.4 manual is now different from 3.2 manual by one preference :) 20:12 chris summer of tech 20:12 cait I would even fly another 60 hours to spend 2 weeks learning about open source 20:12 chris which chris hall is working on, and doing all the template-toolkit work 20:12 chris very well i might add 20:12 chris for university students 20:12 chris and the academy for high school ones 20:13 chris but we could certainly run one for adults too :) 20:13 * Brooke cheers. 20:13 chris on a boat 20:13 chris in alaska 20:13 * cait will even go on a boat 20:13 cait and alaska... that's not as far away as nz, right? 20:14 magnus cait: can't be :-) 20:14 wizzyrea for you, probably not, especially if you fly polar 20:14 * owen would learn Perl on a boat, would learn Perl with a goat. Would on a train, would in the rain. 20:14 wizzyrea ok, owen 20:14 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/BFgkUzuQXJ 20:14 cait owen++ 20:14 magnus owen++ 20:15 wizzyrea and anyone else, for that matter 20:15 chris thats not a boat in alaska! 20:15 wizzyrea I've talked to several of my librarians about this particular report 20:15 wizzyrea they don't find the pub data helpful 20:15 wizzyrea and it wastes space/paper 20:16 cait pub data? 20:16 wizzyrea yea, it's missing, in this view, because I want to get rid of it 20:16 chris cait: your book is at the pub, go get it, and get me a beer too 20:16 wizzyrea publishing house, copyright date 20:16 cait lol 20:16 owen The pub data was important when we didn't have barcodes 20:16 cait ah 20:16 * chris may or may not have had too much sugar 20:16 cait chris: so we can have the adult academy next year? :) 20:16 * wizzyrea hands chris a protein shake to counteract that 20:17 wizzyrea anyway, we could make it so much neater if we left off the patron name 20:17 cait oh wizzyrea, I was trying to get him to promise that... and now? 20:17 chris cait: email me, ill run it past the directors :) 20:18 cait you are mean - you know how I hate writing english mails 20:18 * cait volunteers Brooke 20:18 wizzyrea he can get kristina to translate lol 20:18 chris yeah send it in german 20:18 chris kristina can translate :) 20:19 Brooke Oh me dear, I'll write whatever you wish if ye chair a meeting or two. 20:19 Brooke manus manum lavat ;) 20:19 cait args 20:19 cait when will this Monday be over? 20:19 wizzyrea NEVAR 20:19 chris cait: chairing is easy with meetingbot :) 20:19 cait Aaaah! 20:20 magnus cait: in about 2 hours and 40 mins? 20:20 chris did you see the minutes it made? 20:20 jcamins wizzyrea: don't say that. Please don't say that. The powers that be might hear you and think that's a request. 20:20 chris yo owen! 20:20 owen ? 20:20 chris http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-shelves.pl?viewshelf=98&sortfield=title# 20:20 chris someone got a sense of humour at your library? 20:20 chris :) 20:20 owen That's the trouble with letting your patrons add public lists 20:21 Brooke cait it's clearly Tuesday. 20:21 chris its a classic, i love it :) 20:21 cait rofl 20:21 * owen would like to be able to restrict the public from creating public lists 20:21 chris i thoguth we could? 20:22 cait nope 20:22 cait owen: but I did restrict them with jquery 20:22 Brooke that's missing Lackey. 20:22 cait removed public as an option fromall of the pull downs and preset it to private 20:22 chris if theres not a bug, their definitely should be 20:22 owen cait: I should have thought of that! 20:22 chris thats an easy syspref to add 20:22 cait you can look at hfjs.bsz-bw.de for the code 20:23 chris cait: you could put it on the wiki :) 20:23 cait nobody managed to add a public list until now - so I perhaps forgot nothing 20:23 * cait hides 20:23 chris wizzyrea: hlt had me add more data to the pub info, so it would have to be a syspref 20:23 wizzyrea k 20:23 wizzyrea ty, that's what I needed to know 20:23 wizzyrea and they probably wanted the patron info too? 20:23 cait owen: we can make it a syspref too - if you help me with the english wording and the templates ;) 20:24 wizzyrea or no? 20:24 chris wizzyrea: yeah they did 20:25 wizzyrea chris: then what I'll do is make it easy to nuke that column with jquery instead of removing it. 20:25 chris that works 20:26 wizzyrea bc our libraries don't like to have to shred 20:26 wizzyrea they are lazy 20:26 wizzyrea also around the pub data I will add a div so you could nuke that with jquery too. 20:27 chris cait: it would definitely be good to be done at code level too, so id add a bug or find the one that exists 20:27 wizzyrea but it won't change the look of it at all. 20:27 chris cool 20:27 cait chris: adding it to those long list... 20:27 chris :) 20:27 cait no, I actually think there is one somewhere 20:28 cait we have to play archeologists and find it -... magnus may want to help ;) 20:28 owen Here's one snag if you've got a public list you want to make private: You can't edit a list unless you're the owner--even if the creator is a patron and you're a superlibrarian! 20:28 cait yep 20:28 cait hm I think superlibrarians can edit staff lists 20:28 cait we made a list user for our staff at the library 20:29 owen The staff interface to lists ought to show the owner 20:29 cait but at first I didn't understand their problem, because I was always logged in as superlibrarian 20:30 jcamins It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's... 20:30 jcamins superlibrarian! 20:30 jcamins <.< 20:30 jcamins >.> 20:30 jcamins Monday made me do it. 20:31 Brooke heheh 20:31 Brooke we need "I'm a Superlibrarian" bumperstickers ;) 20:31 cait lol 20:36 cait owen: what about bug 3523 - I remember that being fixed by a more link? or is that something different? 20:36 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3523 normal, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Menu of existing lists limited to 10 20:36 cait ah right, what I mean was the list at the top, right? 20:37 owen I proposed a "more" link in my comment on that bug 20:40 cait ok, was looking for the public lists bug 20:40 cait can't find one 20:41 owen Bug 5487 20:41 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5487 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Add granular permission for editing any list 20:41 cait any list... I searched for public and open lists :) 20:43 owen Bug 5488 20:43 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5488 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Restrict the type of list which can be created by non-staff users 20:44 cait perhaps we can close bug 3094? 20:44 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3094 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Public Virtual Shelf can be Modified / Deleted by any non-logged in patron 20:44 owen I couldn't reproduce it, so you've got my vote 20:45 cait I feel brave enough to close it. 20:45 druthb cait++ 20:46 cait for that? 20:46 cait hmpf. 20:46 owen It's ++ inflation is what it is! 20:47 owen ++inflation-- ! 20:47 * wizzyrea imagines munin's head exploding. 20:47 * owen was waiting for it 20:48 cait poor munin 20:48 cait munin botsnack lots of sugar 20:48 munin cait: Error: "botsnack" is not a valid command. 20:48 cait ? 20:48 cait have I imagined feeding you cookies? 20:48 jcamins cait: munin's head exploded. How can s/he eat with no mouth? 20:48 magnus hehe 20:48 cait hm good point 20:49 cait ibot botsnack cookie 20:49 ibot :) 20:49 cait !hudson botsnack cookie 20:49 hudsonbot cait: yummy! I could eat cookie all day long 20:51 cait ok... this is perhaps a bit mean 20:52 Brooke hi ccorales 20:52 cait hi Ccoralles 20:53 chris hi Ccorrales 20:54 chris ok meeting time 20:54 chris bbiab 20:55 chris http://catalog.ci.arcadia.ca.us/ <-- congrats to arcadia 20:56 cait arcadia++ 20:56 chris any bywaterians about? 20:56 cait owen: ++inflation! :) 20:57 nengard chris i'm here 20:57 chris can you get them to fix the footer? 20:57 chris you'll spot what i mean 20:57 nengard oh crap!!! 20:57 nengard yes right away 20:57 chris thanks 20:59 chris now im really going to my meeting 21:00 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:00 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -5.9�C (10:00 PM CET on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023.2 hPa (Steady). 21:00 cait hah, -0.1 less 21:00 magnus @wunder bodo, norway 21:00 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (9:50 PM CET on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 21:01 magnus hah, 1.0 warmer 21:01 druthb @wunder 20852 21:01 munin druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is -3.0�C (4:00 PM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995.1 hPa (Rising). 21:01 magnus time to take the dogs out - good night #koha 21:01 druthb warmer in Bodo than in DC! yow! 21:02 magnus hehe 21:02 wizzyrea @wunder 66047 21:02 munin wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -4.1�C (3:04 PM CST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Steady). 21:02 wizzyrea you're having a warm day in norway, magnus 21:02 magnus yep, should be even warmer tomorrow - we'll see 21:03 cait I win 21:03 cait coldest place 21:03 magnus hehe 21:03 cait :( 21:09 owen @wunder 45701 21:09 munin owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is -7.8�C (4:10 PM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 1 am EST Tuesday... 21:09 cait oh no 21:09 owen Sorry cait, I win 21:10 cait owen gets the prize 21:10 nengard @wunder 19030 21:10 Brooke pffft, only prize in Ohio is the ice cream at Youngstown. 21:10 munin nengard: The current temperature in Mercer County, Ewing, New Jersey is 0.8�C (4:12 PM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.32 in 992.8 hPa (Steady). 21:10 Brooke Ewing is miles away. Bloody thing has no respect for rural areas. 21:11 Brooke @wunder 12222 21:11 munin Brooke: The current temperature in Wellington Ave, Albany, New York is -1.9�C (4:13 PM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991.1 hPa (Steady). 21:13 nengard Brooke I wouldn't even call this a rural area 21:13 nengard no farms in sight :) 21:14 * Brooke threatens Nicole with another field trip. 21:15 nengard hehe 21:15 nengard i'm coming your way for SLA leadership next month 21:16 nengard and then again in march for CIL 21:16 * Brooke salutes jransom with respect 21:16 Brooke well, I still owe you at least one shuttle ride. 21:17 nengard okay all, it's quitting time and I'm fighting off something so I'm actually going to quit and rest and try to beat this thing before it starts (i'll accept a shuttle ride from train to hotel when i'm in town) 21:18 cait hi jo :) 21:19 jcamins jransom: that slice recipe looked amazing. 21:19 Brooke did it not? 21:21 jransom Hi all 21:22 druthb hi, jransom :) 21:22 jransom Brooke: thank for the earrings - I'm wearing them now! 21:22 jransom hey beb 21:22 jransom babe 21:22 * druthb blushes a little. 21:22 jransom smiles hugely 21:23 cait all those recipes look amazing 21:23 cait and I love the stories :) 21:23 Brooke aye 21:26 wizzyrea erg owen left 21:26 jransom I'm enjoying writing it actually 21:26 jransom I love too that the recipes all do have stories around them at this stage 21:26 jransom I'm putting those up first - it might get a bit scratchy later 21:26 cait some photos would be great :) 21:26 jransom and sooner or later, well now actually, I am going to have to admit that I don't have many recipes for 'real' food at all .... I tend to throw stuff together 21:27 wizzyrea ok, git gurus, owen asked me for a single patch that includes everything to fix bug 5143, I can't figure out how to do that 21:27 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5143 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED, Subtitles not showing on view_holdsqueue.pl 21:27 wizzyrea but I have everything in place 21:27 jransom yep - I think they would be great to. I made the eggplant on sunday and should have photographed it but forgot. I will rtrospectively add photos as i cook them 21:28 wizzyrea or, we could take photos of jransom's food when we cook it, and tag it ;) 21:34 * druthb is headed out. see ya soon! 21:34 cait bye druthb 21:34 cait wizzyrea: :) 21:34 cait I am confusing my bugs - time to go to bed 21:34 cait so you all tomorrow! 21:36 cait see.. 21:37 jransom @wizzyrea - I love that idea :) 21:37 munin jransom: Error: "wizzyrea" is not a valid command. 21:37 jransom confusing my socialmedia forum 21:37 wizzyrea :) it's still earlyish for you 21:37 jransom wizzyrea : I love that idea 21:42 jcamins Good night, #koha 21:43 wizzyrea jransom: spud is still loving on his robot light, i'm amazed it hasn't run down 21:44 jransom I am so pleased! 21:45 jransom his face was pure joy when i gave it to him 21:45 jransom if it does you can unscrew the back and pop another battery in - its a watch battery i think 21:45 jransom night 21:48 paul_p time to go to bed... see you later ppl ! 21:48 jransom goodnight paul 21:48 Brooke night! 21:56 wizzyrea ok, now I see the recipe they were talking about, and have an intense urge to eat eggplant. 21:56 Brooke mmmmmm aubergines 21:57 * Brooke wonders how many sets of rollatini she pumped out of the olde kitchen. 21:58 Brooke though of course shoulda been involtini, but no convincing Yanks on that. 22:10 robin if anyone wants a nice, simple patch to practice signing off: bug 5294 22:10 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5294 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, NEW, Vendor name shows with '%20' 22:19 * Brooke waves to darling 22:29 * darling waves back and looks around for coffee cup 22:55 moodaepo @wunder 56001 22:55 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -17.2�C (4:57 PM CST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -21.0�C. Windchill: -17.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Steady). 22:56 Brooke yee haw, did you get a dusting? 22:58 gmcharlt @wunder 32605 22:58 munin gmcharlt: The current temperature in Central Gainesville, Gainesville, Florida is 3.8�C (6:00 PM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Steady). Lake Wind Advisory in effect until 7 PM EST this evening... 23:34 Brooke there are actual snowflakes out there. The nerve! 23:38 druthb hi. :) 23:38 * Brooke waves to ruth 23:54 * Brooke salutes jransom with respect. 23:54 jransom someone unplugged NZ again I think 23:55 * Brooke thinks your packet noams sleep for 20 hours of 24. 23:55 chris hmm seems fine to me jransom 23:56 Brooke don't taunt the woman, Chris. She has powers that make your ginger beer exploderate.