Time  Nick       Message
00:40 chris      who wants to sign off a patch for me?
00:54 irmaB      Chris Hi
00:54 chris      hi irmaB
00:54 irmaB      CALYX is on holidays for 3 weeks from 17/12.
00:54 chris      ahh cool
00:54 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Update Debian changelog for 3.2.1 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eaddd603e4d878aa75622acd8191474499ca77d4>
00:55 irmaB      I wish to work on bugs and
00:55 irmaB      signing off on patches.
00:55 chris      cool
00:56 irmaB      will speak with Mason tomorrow and sort things out :-)
00:56 irmaB      Can't stay away from Koha for 3 weeks!
00:57 irmaB      And there is much to do.
00:57 chris      heh yep
00:57 chris      even someone just working through the open bugs
00:57 chris      from 1 up
00:57 chris      and sorting them out
00:59 irmaB      oops lost connection.
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01:35 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: (BUG #4806) circ/circulation.tmpl: Add "reservenumber" in the reserved table. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=122bc589e7f6e3607c0368a55fd9304596f6f7c3>
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01:49 hudsonbot  Robin Sheat: Update Debian changelog for 3.2.1 release
01:50 hudsonbot  Starting build 199 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 5 hr ago)
02:11 chris      hi ray
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02:14 hudsonbot  Alex Arnaud: (BUG #4806) circ/circulation.tmpl: Add "reservenumber" in the reserved table.
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03:05 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug_4218' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c49dc072aa987f4db6bb523492b28b0e18451549> / Fix for Bug 4218 - Staff client detail page does not show item hold status <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6466ac847fadd23ab7941bbca49424c87d382e6e>
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03:21 hudsonbot  Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4218 - Staff client detail page does not show item hold status
03:25 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: (bug #5154) fix most checkouts report <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=666cc03bd38f5932e96d7b5ff151e097f93cb4e6>
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03:51 hudsonbot  Nahuel ANGELINETTI: (bug #5154) fix most checkouts report
04:12 cait       morning #koha
04:13 robin      g'day
04:15 hudsonbot  Starting build 202 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 7 hr ago)
04:15 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: (bug #3575) fix opac-detail.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=38a1526a740b506e87c0aa296014f2feb1c00c0f>
04:17 cait       oh, chris still pushing patches?
04:17 cait       hi robin :)
04:18 robin      I think he's left just this minute, so probably won't be pushing more at least until he gets home.
04:21 cait       :)
04:21 cait       and you are still at work?
04:22 robin      yeah. I start late, work late. He does the opposite.
04:24 cait       I am more the start late type too, but get up early and do some things at home before work
04:29 robin      in my case I spend a solid hour sitting around eating breakfast very slowly waking up.
04:29 robin      And then another 30 minutes procrastinating.
04:31 cait       hehe
04:32 cait       is reading blogs, watching news and surfing the web procrastinating? probably :)
04:33 robin      I'm counting it :)
04:33 cait       ah, chris wants me to rebase... perhaps not only procrastinating today
04:33 * robin    is currently writing a "merge your Koha system with a Z39.50 server" tool to help get cleaner data in migrations.
04:34 kmkale     good morning #koha
04:34 cait       hi kmkale
04:34 kmkale     hi cait
04:34 kmkale     robin that sounds exiting
04:34 cait       get data via z39.50 for records from your system?
04:35 kmkale     i usually get huge data as either database or spreadsheet to migrate to Koha as part of work for Granthalaya.org
04:35 kmkale     will this tool help?
04:35 robin      cait: yeah, looks them up via ISBN (and ISSN when I get there) and can merge selected MARC fields from the results.
04:35 kmkale     oh
04:36 cait       how many hits do you get?
04:36 robin      kmkale: possibly. It's intended to be used once it's imported into Koha, and will clean them up when they're there.
04:36 robin      cait: it depends on a) what sort of library you are and b) what sort of library you're querying against.
04:36 kmkale     not with the data I get. In over 750000 records imported havent seen 10% with ISBN
04:36 cait       good point
04:36 cait       s
04:37 hudsonbot  Project Koha_Master build #202: STILL UNSTABLE in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/202/
04:37 hudsonbot  Nahuel ANGELINETTI: (bug #3575) fix opac-detail.pl
04:37 robin      just looking through a small sample while testing, I was probably getting 30% hits or so.
04:38 robin      it also cleans the ISBN up in the hope that that helps, but the data I'm using at the moment seems to have come from a catalogue source in the past, so that doesn't help here.
04:40 cait       oh no, someone made my inbox explode by 20 mb attachements
04:40 robin      ah doh
04:40 cait       wondered why I can't send the patch via this address
04:40 cait       not even zipped
04:43 robin      grr. MARC is hard.
04:44 cait       yeah, it is
04:46 * cait     really needs to find a domain and get some real email addresses
04:47 robin      domains are cheap.
04:49 cait       I kno
04:49 cait       w
04:49 cait       I even get 10 with my hosting package
04:50 robin      that's a lot of domains.
04:50 cait       yeah, but I can't decide for a name
04:51 robin      ah. Just create one and stick with it :)
04:51 cait       hmpf.
04:51 robin      I assume things like 'katrin.de' are long gone :)
04:52 cait       hm no.
04:52 cait       but having my name seems a bit strange tome
04:53 robin      fair enough
04:54 robin      I just picked a name years back, and stuck with it.
04:54 cait       what is it?
04:54 robin      kallisti.net.nz
04:54 cait       what is kallisti?
04:57 robin      http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/24.php
05:02 cait       hm strange, the files it complained for chris are totally different to mine
05:02 cait       I only had to solve a conflict in updatedatabase
05:04 cait       oh no... forgot to do git pull :(
05:05 robin      oops :)
05:05 cait       hm but still applies
05:05 cait       don't have to resend it then, right?
05:06 robin      I'm not sure.
05:06 robin      it could be chris was doing something funny, in which case if he tries again it may work.
05:06 robin      Or maybe not :)
05:08 cait       I have no idea
05:08 cait       will try to ask him later
05:08 cait       might be this webmail things fault
05:08 cait       but can't send via git because the lines in the sql files are too long
05:08 robin      yeah, that's a bit of a pain.
05:09 robin      it could be worth gzip'ing it maybe.
05:09 robin      just to avoid munging on the way through the mail system
05:09 cait       or send it with a real mail program.. but have to get it on the other computer for that
06:54 chris      nope, your patch still wont apply, i think your mailer is busting it
06:54 chris      error: installer/data/mysql/uk-UA/mandatory/system_preferences_full_optimal_for_install_only.sql: patch does not apply
06:54 chris      Did you hand edit your patch?
06:54 chris      It does not apply to blobs recorded in its index.
06:54 chris      is what its telling me
06:55 chris      either gzip it, or use a real mail programme :)
06:55 cait       hi chris
06:55 cait       no, no hand edit
06:55 chris      no thats what git things
06:55 chris      thinks, not me
06:55 cait       did git pull, git rebase origin/master and git format-patch
06:56 chris      yep, it must be your mailer
06:56 cait       ok, I am going to copy the files to my usb stick and try mailing from work
06:56 chris      either that, or just push it up to your repo
06:56 chris      and ill pull from there
06:56 cait       that's a good idea
06:56 chris      thats what i always do if its too long for git-send-email
06:56 cait       much easier :)
06:57 cait       give me a minute
06:58 chris      http://mako.cc/writing/hill-when_free_software_isnt_better.html
06:58 chris      good essay
06:58 cait       I am pushing 1997 and bug 3381
06:58 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3381 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add an IntranetUserCSS system preference
06:58 chris      cool
07:00 cait       done :)
07:02 cait       will update 3381 and point to repo
07:02 chris      cool
07:02 chris      pushed up 1997
07:03 chris      ive made a new status as well
07:03 fredericd  chris: I've seen your signed-off demands...
07:03 fredericd  I've transmitted a demand to hdl
07:03 chris      :-)
07:04 fredericd  bug 5041
07:04 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5041 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Non repeatable fields are not deletable
07:04 chris      tried to do a bit of a clean up today
07:04 fredericd  could be tested by anybody
07:04 chris      bugs with patches sent
07:04 chris      cool
07:04 cait       chris: yep, saw your mails
07:04 chris      there is a new status too
07:04 chris      signed off
07:04 cait       and patch pushed
07:04 cait       ;)
07:04 chris      yep
07:05 chris      so if you sign off a patch and want to update the bug to signed off, that would be great
07:05 cait       yeah, I think now we really have a status for each step
07:05 chris      yup
07:05 chris      so can do searches
07:05 fredericd  cait: bug 5041, could you take a look at it.
07:05 cait       munin?
07:05 ibot       munin is power mad
07:05 munin      ibot: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
07:05 ibot       i already had it that way, munin.
07:05 cait       lol
07:05 cait       bug 5041
07:06 cait       it refuses
07:06 fredericd  cait: what do you mean?
07:06 cait       munin doesn't show the explanation for the bug number
07:06 munin      cait: Error: "doesn't" is not a valid command.
07:07 chris      thats because he already did
07:07 chris      just before
07:08 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_1997' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=906a1a03ac023aae4f2f51ce72338ab2035e1d8d> / Bug 1997: new OPACNoResultsFound pref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ddde74e10e355646cda62fc6138ab259aab56fcf> / Bumping db version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0c5d74f06e81da63e1a931416341c9d
07:08 cait       fredericd: I have not much time today and tomorrow
07:09 chris      oh thats a simple one
07:09 chris      i can sign that one off
07:09 cait       can try to do it, but no promise
07:09 cait       ah good
07:10 cait       and next thing is I still have not figured out how to get a proper patch out of a mailing list list
07:10 cait       link
07:10 fredericd  chris: Have you seen my patch with a screencast attached to it?
07:11 fredericd  For such a patch, you need a special Koha configuration with loaded data
07:11 chris      nope which bug was that for?
07:11 cait       wow 46 bugs need sign-off
07:12 fredericd  bug 4838
07:12 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4838 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Repeated authority headings break biblio record data entry form
07:12 fredericd  you need UNIMARC + multilingual authorities
07:12 fredericd  I'm not even sure Biblibre can test, I don't know
07:14 chris      ahh yeah that is a tricky one
07:14 cait       chris: can I change bug 4506 to signed-off now? not sure what to do now after Colin qa's - I have some small additions in mind, like a sys pref, but could do that as separate bugs
07:14 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Add support of record linking by record control number in $w
07:14 chris      cait: there were 350 that have patch pushed, and no status set
07:14 chris      i think about 320 now
07:14 cait       ouch
07:14 chris      i was working through them this afternoon
07:15 cait       all "patch pushed plz test and close"?
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07:15 chris      cait: nope, some are some have never been pushed
07:16 chris      some have been pushed, but never had a message set
07:16 cait       ah yeah, came across some of those
07:16 chris      so i have to search git to see if its pushed
07:16 chris      then update it
07:16 cait       and some have only been pushed to 3.0.x
07:16 chris      id like to get everything into one of the statuses
07:16 cait       that makes sense
07:16 chris      and yes, that can be set to signed off
07:16 cait       most of the patches might need a rebase
07:17 cait       ok
07:17 chris      yeah
07:17 chris      id like it so i can just search for signed off
07:17 chris      and others can search for need sign off
07:17 cait       yeah, I like it too
07:17 cait       makes search for things very easy now
07:17 chris      yeah\
07:17 cait       chris++ :)
07:17 chris      so we can see how many are waiting on me, or on qa, or whatever
07:18 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5041 Allow to delete non-repeatable field <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=565b780becd291d29d768e4851d3935b3cb19751>
07:18 chris      this is the kind of thing id like the bug wranglers to do
07:18 cait       I will try to do some more
07:19 chris      thank you
07:19 cait       but not sure how today and tomorrow will go - have some homework from my writing course and organising our christmas party at work
07:19 chris      thats fine
07:19 chris      just whenever you get a chance
07:19 cait       will do
07:19 cait       and complain if I do something wrong :)
07:19 chris      i only had a bit of time today because there was nothing urgent
07:19 cait       you are much faster at that than me
07:19 chris      and i wanted to see if it would work, i think it will
07:19 cait       hope people give feedback about their bugs
07:20 cait       chris: perhaps if you have some time we can look at the template toolkit things?
07:20 cait       I have problems with the branch no
07:20 cait       w
07:21 chris      http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2010/12/11/its-nearly-christmas/
07:21 cait       can't get it working :(
07:21 chris      that weird missing html::template thing?
07:21 chris      yeah, i have no idea about that
07:21 cait       I did a git fetch git rebase catalyst/template-test right now
07:21 cait       and now I get a new error
07:22 chris      git fetch catalyst eh?
07:22 cait       will try again mom
07:22 cait       Current branch catalyst_template-test is up to date.
07:23 cait       Template process failed: file error - /home/katrin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/de-DE/modules/auth.tt: not found at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 101.
07:23 cait       ah, I think I see the problem no
07:23 cait       it's the language detection bug
07:23 chris      ah yep
07:23 chris      that makes sense
07:24 cait       hah, it works now!
07:24 cait       changed my browser settings to en
07:24 chris      ah right, thats worth noting in your wiki and we can hopefully get chris to fix that too
07:25 cait       hm, I had checked DE - will retest without it and update the bug before noting on the wiki
07:26 chris      ta
07:28 cait       yeah
07:28 cait       it breaks
07:29 cait       unset de-DE, saved, changed browser settings to be German as first choice and a refresh breaks the page
07:29 cait       hmpf.
07:30 chris      right, so its still trying to do the detect
07:30 cait       which is bad
07:30 cait       because peple sometimes do not update the other templates
07:31 cait       or do customizations to en but not to the other template files and forget copying the css files over to those directories
07:32 chris      yeah
07:32 chris      i think we probably should just disable that
07:32 chris      and make it so people have to choose the language
07:32 cait       the problem is - showing th elanguage choser is an option
07:33 chris      its a good idea, but causes more problems
07:33 cait       yes
07:33 cait       or make it only work for selected languages
07:33 chris      yep
07:33 cait       but people really should activate the language chooser in such situations
07:33 chris      yes
07:33 cait       going to buy some fennel for my salat tomorrow - will be back before going to work
07:34 chris      :)
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07:41 hudsonbot  * Nicole Engard: Bug 1997: new OPACNoResultsFound pref
07:41 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Bumping db version
07:41 hudsonbot  * Katrin Fischer: Bug 1997: new OPACNoResultsFound pref
07:41 hudsonbot  * Frédéric Demians: Bug 5041 Allow to delete non-repeatable field
07:45 cait       guess...
07:45 cait       they had ordered fennel as always but it wasn't delivered
07:47 cait       hmpf!
07:47 chris      theres tons in our garden
07:48 cait       chris: can you send some? ;)
07:48 cait       or just trying to bring me back to nz?
07:48 cait       have to run to work now - see you all later :)
07:48 chris      you can have it all
07:48 chris      i hate fennel :)
07:48 cait       most people do
07:49 cait       perhaps you should not grow it then :)
07:49 cait       bye
08:24 kf         I got a desk full of xmas presents :)
08:24 kf         but sadly not for me - for our "wichteln" tomorro
08:28 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5416, Template syntax error in moredetails.tmpl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=554b6ad34056cd3ab166b244c200720c17f2d891>
08:30 hudsonbot  Starting build 204 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 11 hr ago)
08:38 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5313 - allow creation of libraries with hyphens <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4f4c4eceb3e4d6b01a87c4c5dbb65df24fcc0638>
08:48 kf         chris: still busy? :)
08:52 chris      does it look like it? :-)
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08:55 hudsonbot  Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5416, Template syntax error in moredetails.tmpl
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08:59 kf         chris: yeah, it does
09:00 kf         :)
09:04 chris      :)
09:10 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5228 - make rebuild_zebra handle fixing the zebra dirs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8de1ef7e94b37f343b5a1896b1ab06950ee83530>
09:20 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5208, Language chooser missing on Batch item deletion/modification <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b53b14bacfdd276c3188de2f76ed03201a0cab0>
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09:21 hudsonbot  Robin Sheat: Bug 5313 - allow creation of libraries with hyphens
09:21 hudsonbot  Starting build 206 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 12 hr ago)
09:45 * kf       tries to summon chris
09:45 hudsonbot  Project Koha_Master build #206: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/206/
09:45 hudsonbot  * Robin Sheat: Bug 5228 - make rebuild_zebra handle fixing the zebra dirs
09:45 hudsonbot  * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5208, Language chooser missing on Batch item deletion/modification
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10:00 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_4218' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cce6deef8e673dff4e709d38a19a16649d14449> / Bug 4218: Fixes display problem introduced by last patch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd26d056283e5a98bfcf655c5f956faedfb258e4>
10:10 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5150 change issuing to circ & fine rules <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b36fafe8c21e55367d139ca1823d5e51b3280ba>
10:14 chris      well that should do for now
10:16 * chris    goes to bed
10:20 kf         monday--
10:20 kf         good night chris
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10:21 hudsonbot  Katrin Fischer: Bug 4218: Fixes display problem introduced by last patch
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10:43 hudsonbot  Nicole Engard: bug 5150 change issuing to circ & fine rules
11:37 kf         missing_qa_contact--
12:01 kmkale     hi all
12:56 gmcharlt   good morning
12:56 jwagner    morning, gmcharlt
12:57 kf         hi gmcharlt
12:58 kmkale     hi gmcharlt
12:58 kf         gmcharlt++
12:58 kmkale     hi kf
12:58 kmkale     hi jwagner
12:58 gmcharlt   kf: ?
12:58 druthb     haven't seen you in a while, gmcharlt!  :)
12:58 kmkale     hi druthb
12:58 gmcharlt   I've been on a boat without internet access for the past week
12:58 kf         just because :)
12:58 druthb     hi, kmkale.
12:59 jwagner    vacation++
12:59 druthb     yah, that would explain it, galen.  :)
12:59 * jwagner  wishes _I_ was on a boat without Internet access....
12:59 kf         this would be a good solution to escape this monday
13:01 kf         without writing angry mails or doing other stupid things
13:04 kmkale     whats especially wrong about this monday? apart from it being monday..
13:06 kf         a lot of things
13:06 kf         but I am scheduled to move tables around for our christmas party now :)
13:06 kmkale     christmas party start today? wow!
13:07 druthb     ibot:  jwagner?
13:07 kf         tomorrow
13:07 ibot       jwagner is needing a vacation.
13:07 ibot       tomorrow is, like, pizza friday
13:07 kf         hehe
13:07 jwagner    Gee, ibot knows me :-)
13:07 kmkale     kf christmas party tomorrow then holidays?
13:08 kf         no, only a little party here at work
13:08 druthb     ibot:  druthb?
13:08 ibot       you are way too chirpy for jwagner.
13:08 kmkale     :)
13:08 druthb     lol
13:08 kf         will be back later
13:08 jwagner    And ibot DEFINITELY knows druthb!
13:08 druthb     hehehehe
13:08 jwagner    Harrumph
13:09 druthb     Harrumph!
13:11 * druthb   is enjoying her new shoes-optional office.
13:13 hdl        hi
13:13 ibot       what's up, hdl
13:25 owen       Happy Monday #koha
13:26 kmkale     :)
13:26 kmkale     thank god its almost over
13:26 owen       @wunder 45701
13:26 munin      owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is -8.3�C (8:20 AM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -13.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Rising).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 1 am EST Tuesday... 
13:27 kmkale     has anyone had make test problems with mysql passwords having the # character?
13:28 owen       That sounds familiar kmkale
13:28 kmkale     i set a password for kohaadmin with a # in it and make test failed
13:28 jwagner    I remember a problem on a system when the mysql password had an @ character in it.
13:28 jwagner    Maybe it doesn't like special chars in that password
13:28 kmkale     mut the command line mysql client as well as phpmyadmin take it easily
13:29 kmkale     also if i set a pass without # and after make install reset it to a password having # koha web client takes it easily
13:29 kmkale     so may be something in the test script?
13:36 kmkale     This is what I get "Error:  Access denied for user 'booksnmore'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /home/booksnmore/kohaclone/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 692."
14:10 owen       Just spent 10 minutes trying to diagnose a broken layout on detail.pl only to realize it was junky markup from Amazon. :P
14:11 nengard    amazon--
14:11 owen       Other sites must have that problem too, if Amazon is sending out malformed HTML
14:19 kmkale     bye all. Good night
14:24 jcamins    Good morning, #koha
14:28 * owen     grumbles about a 7-month old pending patch conflicting with a just-pushed one
14:36 hdl        owen : same for us but maybe on a larger scale.
14:36 owen       Of course
14:37 * owen     will still exercise his right to complain
14:37 hdl        But the fact that we donot see any actual progress is really frustrating.
14:39 jcamins    Does anyone have a computer running IE7 and/or IE9?
14:39 jcamins    Wait, there isn't any IE9.
14:39 jcamins    IE7?
14:39 owen       Just IE8 jcamins
14:40 kf         hdl: I think working on theproblems people have pointed out with your brnaches would be a good start
14:40 jcamins    Hm. Well, that's the version that should work with the OPAC, anyway.
14:40 jcamins    owen: is this page garbled? http://donum.numismatics.org/
14:40 hdl        kf: I have already worked on most of those.
14:40 jcamins    owen: (in IE, I mean)
14:40 kf         the one sending a patch or branch is responsible to make it work with HEAD - and the time it was created doesn't matter
14:41 owen       jcamins: Indeed.
14:41 jcamins    Well, at least it's consistent.
14:41 hdl        it is nonesense to say it doesnot cope a bug that was not declared.
14:42 hdl        at the time it was produced.
14:42 kf         it's pointing out there is a problem now
14:43 kf         that needs some work to be fixed in current HEAD
14:43 kf         I see no problem with that
14:43 owen       jcamins: A good starting point would be validating the page
14:43 hdl        re doing things all the time doesnot help.
14:44 jcamins    owen: just a few errors.
14:45 jwagner    jcamins, you're missing a closing /a on line 294 For a more detailed description on the adoption of this new catalog, please see the <a href="http://www.numismatics.org/Library/HistoryOfDONUM" target="_blank">History of DONUM.<br/>
14:45 jcamins    Ah, thanks.
14:45 kf         I think I am not a good person to talk to today... and I have to get back to christmas decorations
14:45 jcamins    jwagner: how did you figure that out?
14:45 kf         coworkers are waiting
14:45 jcamins    I mean, so quickly.
14:46 jwagner    In Firefox, plugin HTML validator, looking at the source
14:46 jwagner    nifty plugin that owen pointed me to a while back
14:46 jcamins    That fixed it, cool.
14:46 gmcharlt   hdl: true, one cannot predict when bugs (or bugfixes) arise; but by effectively asking the release manager to push a patch that is now known to cause a regression, you are asking him to push something known to cause a problem
14:47 gmcharlt   that does not strike me as non-nonsensical
14:47 jwagner    Yep, looks fine in IE now, although at my screen resolution the mainuserblock text is breaking at odd places.  Then again, I have my resolution set lower than most people do.
14:47 hdl        gmcharlt: note that i didn't ask that you get that on your branch.
14:48 jcamins    jwagner: no, I think it's breaking where it's supposed to. It's... interesting.
14:48 hdl        I just said that you could not expect that patch to take that bug into consideration.
14:51 hdl        I am ok if the work is slowly integrated. Fact is that i see no progress on that. And we keep working on a different version of koha... And it looks to me as a waste of time for both us and the community.
14:52 gmcharlt   hdl: well, responding more promptly to QA feedback would benefit all of us
14:52 gmcharlt   and I note that I *am* trying to QA things, which was the entire point of that reports-tested branch
14:54 hdl        noted
14:56 hdl        I didn't get that you were asking for comments. I thought that you were just stating things.
14:57 hdl        and stating the patches you were rejecting and the reasons why.
14:59 hdl        To me those statements were just for information, not required a comment... And looking at the way things are getting, i should have sticked to previous position.
15:02 owen       kf++ # for submitting a patch for Bug 4160
15:02 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4160 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Currency Conversion dosn't handle rates other than 100
15:05 jcamins    Good morning, wizzyrea.
15:05 wizzyrea   heya
15:17 owen       What, you got better places to be wizzyrea ?
15:18 wizzyrea   hehe, apologies for all of the relogging.
15:22 * druthb   gets out the velcro.
15:23 jcamins    wizzyrea: did you suggest replacing the chocolate chips in those oatmeal cookies with candied ginger and dried cranberries, or did I come up with that all by myself?
15:23 wizzyrea   I think I put in dried cranberries, but the ginger I think you came up with by yourself :)
15:23 jcamins    Ah. Well, it's delicious!
15:25 wizzyrea   it sounds yummy!
15:26 wizzyrea   we made pomander oranges this weekend, similar to http://bit.ly/hGRPm6
15:27 owen       kf++ # again! For sending a patch for Bug 3381!
15:27 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3381 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add an IntranetUserCSS system preference
15:28 wizzyrea   ok that's annoying :(
15:34 kf         owen: I got in a strange patch frenzy this saturday night :)
15:35 owen       patch_frenzies++
15:35 magnus_a   yay!
15:35 kf         owen: hoped you could perhaps resign on the intranetusercss bug? I took your description how to do it from the bug and added the database things :)
15:36 kf         not resign...
15:36 kf         *sighs+
15:36 kf         monday--
15:36 kf         sign off
15:39 * jwagner  sends kf cookies and chocolate
15:39 * jcamins  sends kf some coconut-ginger-cranberry-oatmeal cookies.
15:40 kf         oh wow
15:40 kf         this monday suddenly gets a lot better :)
15:40 jwagner    Duck! incoming!!!
15:41 kf         huh?
15:41 jwagner    incoming fire from all the cookies
15:42 * owen     hopes to sign off on a few things today if he can ever get through his inbox
15:45 kf         owen: I can totally understand you...
15:49 kf         jwagner: ouch
15:50 * kf       ducks under her desk and crawl out the office door
15:51 * jcamins  pulls out the big guns... gnocchi!
15:51 wizzyrea   !
15:51 * wizzyrea loves gnocchi, almost more than cookies.
15:51 jcamins    It's delicious.
15:52 jcamins    wizzyrea: http://allrecipes.com//Recipe/sweet-potato-gnocchi/Detail.aspx
15:52 jcamins    With the sage butter sauce from this recipe: http://allrecipes.com//Recipe/gnocchi-with-sage-butter-sauce/Detail.aspx
15:53 * wizzyrea 's mind blows: sweet potato gnocchi
15:53 * wizzyrea dies
15:54 jcamins    I made 4.6 lbs (2.1 kg?) yesterday.
15:54 wizzyrea   I wonder if you can steam the sweet potatoes, since you're not cooking them in a hot enough oven to brown them
15:54 kf         we should really have a kohacon in jcamins apartment ;)
15:54 jcamins    We just microwave them.
15:54 wizzyrea   I do the same thing!
15:54 jcamins    Anything that makes them soft.
15:54 * wizzyrea high fives jcamins
15:54 wizzyrea   6 mins vs 30 mins... yeeah
15:55 jcamins    You don't even need to scrub the skins, since you're just going to be peeling them to make the gnocchi.
15:55 wizzyrea   I would probably peel/dice, then microwave
15:55 wizzyrea   I am so making these
15:55 jcamins    The problem with that is the edges get dried out.
15:56 wizzyrea   hmm, I do it in a covered dish with a lil bit of water, I don't think I've had that problem
15:56 jcamins    Ah.
15:56 jcamins    That makes sense.
15:56 wizzyrea   (that's what I mean when I say "steam them")
15:57 jcamins    That's a great idea. I should try that next time.
15:57 wizzyrea   this one's great for kids too, since it involves making snakes
15:57 slef       Did I imagine a mailing list thread about the next kohacon?
15:57 slef       I can't find it now. Only one about timing.
15:58 wizzyrea   there's a wiki page for it
15:58 wizzyrea   i'll find it for ya
15:58 slef       Yeah, I've got that
15:58 wizzyrea   ah, hm
15:58 slef       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Conference_Bidding
15:58 slef       That the one?
15:58 jcamins    slef: there was one about whether the conference should be annual or biennial.
15:59 slef       jcamins: yes, that's the thread I saw.  OK, so I was dreaming :)
15:59 jcamins    slef: either that or I was too efficient about clearing my inbox.
15:59 slef       jcamins: that was my worry too :)
15:59 wizzyrea   there's another wiki page
15:59 wizzyrea   sec
15:59 slef       wizzyrea: ooh, thanks!
16:00 wizzyrea   but I'm not *certain* about that, I'm having a tickled mind
16:00 wizzyrea   http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Conference_Bidding
16:00 slef       snap!
16:00 wizzyrea   there was a thread about this wiki page too
16:00 wizzyrea   I think brooke started it?
16:01 kf         yep, the discussion page
16:01 kf         about rotating countries
16:01 kf         ooh, I really have to go home now
16:01 slef       kf: :P
16:02 * slef     is jealous
16:02 kf         slef: will not stop thinking about koha at home - promise ;)
16:02 * slef     gets distracted by another broken server :-(
16:02 kf         monday--
16:02 slef       I hope everyone has upgraded exim if they use it.
16:05 slef       (That is not the problem on this broken server, but was a fun weekend scramble)
16:11 * magnus   chucks another log into the fireplace
16:16 * druthb   waves to magnus
16:17 schuster   3schuster waves to druthb
16:18 druthb     hi, schuster! :)
16:18 schuster   back to the land of the living - upper respiratory infection last week out for 3 days
16:19 * magnus   waves to druthb and schuster
16:28 owen       wizzyrea: Are each of the patches on Bug 5143 meant to be applied?
16:28 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5143 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Subtitles not showing on view_holdsqueue.pl
16:38 owen       collum: Sorry about the duplicated effort on bug 4965
16:38 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4965 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gcollum, RESOLVED FIXED, batch delete needs title/author
16:40 owen       nengard: Did you tip the bouncer?
16:40 nengard    hehe
16:41 owen       At least I'm not talking to myself anymore
16:43 nengard    was a vpn i was connected to that was not letting me into #koha
17:01 cait       hi #koha
17:01 druthb     welcome  back, cait!
17:01 cait       thx druthb
17:09 wizzyrea   owen: only attachment 2552 on bug 5143 is meant to be applied
17:09 munin      03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=2552&action=edit patch, followup putting the subtitles in the title links, 0002--followup-5143-Additions-to-the-view_holdsqueue.tmp.patch
17:09 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5143 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Subtitles not showing on view_holdsqueue.pl
17:09 jcamins    Ooh, nifty. I didn't know that munin knew about attachments.
17:10 wizzyrea   me either
17:10 gmcharlt   attachment 2552
17:10 gmcharlt   attachment 2552 on bug 5143
17:11 gmcharlt   hmm
17:13 wizzyrea   Attachment 2552
17:13 wizzyrea   weird
17:13 wizzyrea   lol
17:16 magnus     attachment 2533
17:16 munin      03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=2533&action=edit patch, Potential fix, 0001-Potential-fix-for-Bug-5143.patch
17:16 magnus     attachment 2552
17:16 munin      03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=2552&action=edit patch, followup putting the subtitles in the title links, 0002--followup-5143-Additions-to-the-view_holdsqueue.tmp.patch
17:16 wizzyrea   he likes you better :)
17:17 magnus     maybe munin doesn't like to say the same thing two times in a row?
17:17 owen       munin is trying not to spam us I think
17:17 munin      owen: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
17:17 ibot       i already had it that way, munin.
17:17 magnus     attachment 2552
17:17 wizzyrea   ah that must be it
17:17 owen       attachment 3
17:17 munin      03Attachment 3 was not found or is not accessible.
17:17 owen       :)
17:18 magnus     is?
17:18 magnus     ibot: is?
17:18 magnus     never mind
17:18 druthb     ibot:  ibot?
17:18 ibot       hmmm... i am a clever being
17:27 hdl        good evening
17:29 owen       wizzyrea: I bugged you about bug 5143 in the bug report
17:29 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5143 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED, Subtitles not showing on view_holdsqueue.pl
17:30 hudsonbot  Starting build 209 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 6 days 20 hr ago)
17:31 cait       owen: only attachment 2552 on bug 5143 is meant to be applied
17:31 ibot       i already had it that way, cait.
17:31 munin      03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=2552&action=edit patch, followup putting the subtitles in the title links, 0002--followup-5143-Additions-to-the-view_holdsqueue.tmp.patch
17:31 wizzyrea   just as well, they'd need to be rebased anyway.
17:31 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/biblibre_reports' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5278aa0ca4bb5110741b792b527725280a3ee902>
17:36 nengard    okay ... someone please tell me taht I did publish a newsletter in october ... cause i can't find any record of it except for my call for articles
17:38 owen       nengard: I can't find one in my email
17:39 nengard    how did i do that??
17:39 nengard    i'm so confused
17:39 magnus     nengard: i republished on libriotech.no, but now the links are not leading anywhere: http://libriotech.no/node/80
17:39 nengard    wow - so I did
17:39 nengard    and somehow my post was deleted
17:39 nengard    how did I do that??
17:39 nengard    wizzyrea any chance you have a backup with that post on it or something?
17:41 nengard    FOUND IT
17:41 nengard    restoring it now
17:41 nengard    thank you magnus :) links work now
17:41 wizzyrea   interesting, I didn't delete it
17:41 nengard    i must have
17:41 cait       it's monday 13th today - not your fault
17:42 magnus     hehe
17:42 nengard    i probably had it selected and didn't know i had it selected
17:42 nengard    hehe thanks cait :)
17:43 hdl        see you folks
17:43 cait       @karma monday
17:43 munin      cait: Karma for "monday" has been increased 1 time and decreased 10 times for a total karma of -9.
17:44 magnus     poor monday, hehe
17:47 nengard    time to restart
17:47 nengard    brb
17:52 hudsonbot  Project Koha_Master build #209: STILL UNSTABLE in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/209/
17:52 hudsonbot  * Paul Poulain: MT2268 : Guided Reports Fix columns.def
17:52 hudsonbot  * Galen Charlton: Removed two column definitions added in previous patch
17:52 hudsonbot  * Alex Arnaud: (MT 3267) Add Homebranch and Holdingbranch search criterion on circulation stat.
17:52 hudsonbot  * Galen Charlton: follow-up: improve use of home and holding library in circ stats report
17:52 hudsonbot  * Jean-André Santoni: Fixes a permission problem in guided reports
17:52 hudsonbot  * Paul Poulain: MT4578 : remove edit & delete button if the user don't have edit/create report permission
17:52 hudsonbot  * Galen Charlton: follow-up to reports permissions patch
18:25 cait       thx owen
18:25 cait       owen++
18:29 chris      Back
18:29 wizzyrea   owen: do you use the patron display on the holds queue report?
18:30 wizzyrea   do your librarians call folks from that list?
18:30 wizzyrea   or do they call when the message pops up that a hold is waiting?
18:32 cait       hi chris
18:32 chris      Hi cait
18:37 * druthb   waves to chris
18:38 cait       hm how can I create a search for patch pushed?
18:39 cait       I did it for sign-off but now I don't see the option in bugzilla's advanced search
18:42 nengard    wizzyrea - new manual updates happening today ... did you ever automate that process?
18:42 nengard    of pulling from git to site
18:42 nengard    or should i keep telling you?
18:43 chris      cait: right down the bottom
18:43 chris      There is a drop down
18:43 chris      Choose patch status
18:44 chris      Then is equal to
18:44 chris      And put patch pushed in the textbox
18:49 cait       chris: thx, will try
18:51 cait       chris: that worked - thx!
18:51 chris      Cool
19:03 chris      I'm gonna make rss feeds of the 4 searches
19:03 chris      To make it easier to spot status changes
19:04 cait       i have saved the search - nice bugzilla feature
19:05 cait       but rss feeds would be cool
19:07 owen       wizzyrea: No, we don't call people from that list. We copy the patron's information from the hold message onscreen onto a paper slip
19:08 cait       hi brooke
19:08 Brooke     howdy
19:08 Brooke     wie gehts?
19:09 cait       gut,danke, und dir?
19:09 Brooke     good enough for gummint woik
19:11 cait       @wunder konstanz
19:11 munin      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -4.0�C (8:00 PM CET on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
19:11 chris      Hi Brooke
19:11 * Brooke   salutes Chris with respect.
19:21 chris      @wunder wellington nz
19:21 munin      chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on December 14, 2010). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
19:22 * cait     gets jealous
19:23 magnus     @wunder bodo, norway
19:23 munin      magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (7:50 PM CET on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
19:23 druthb     @wunder 20852
19:23 munin      druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is -1.4�C (2:20 PM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993.1 hPa (Rising).
19:25 chris      Ok my stop
19:25 chris      Bbiab
19:25 paul_p     hello world
19:26 paul_p     @wunder lille, france
19:26 munin      paul_p: The current temperature in Lille, France is -1.0�C (8:00 PM CET on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
19:26 paul_p     yes, it's cold here, I confirm (Lille is in the far north of France)
19:27 Brooke     bonjour paul
19:28 cait       @wunder Konstanz
19:28 cait       ;)
19:28 munin      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -6.0�C (8:25 PM CET on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Steady).
19:28 cait       wah
19:28 jcamins    @wunder 11105
19:28 munin      jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 5.0�C (2:26 PM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.16 in 987.4 hPa (Steady).
19:28 paul_p     hi brooke & cait é& chris & jcamins & all
19:29 cait       2 degrees colder than 15 minutes ago??
19:29 cait       brrrr
19:29 paul_p     wow... cait, your temp is lower than mine in Lille, and I already think it's impossible to leave with a so low temp...
19:30 cait       yeah, will not leave my home until tomorrow morning
19:31 cait       but at least we had no rain today. Had some bad weather combinations last week - lots of snow + rain - water everywhere. lots of rain - getting cold fast - lots of ice everywhere
19:31 cait       was hard to get to work
19:32 cait       chris_n: around?
19:32 magnus     paul_p: same temp as here ;-)
19:38 chris      paul_p: you on a client site?
19:39 paul_p     chris, not yet a client. But a university investigating Koha deeply (and paying us to do it with them), to see if they go Koha or not.
19:39 chris      cool
19:40 magnus     fingers crossed, paul_p ;-)
19:40 chris      http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-commits/2010-December/002011.html <-- see that paul_p
19:40 paul_p     everything went very well except for serials module, where the library has a *lot* of requirements that Koha does not fill (and, franckly speaking, it would mean rewriting completly the serials module...)
19:40 chris      well i think we need more than one serials module
19:41 chris      because publics, specials, academics and laws
19:41 magnus     chris++
19:41 chris      all have very different requirements
19:41 chris      (lots of similarities, but lots of differences too)
19:41 paul_p     yes ! 1 module merged. good news. Will be very happy when the other 8/9 will have been as well...
19:42 magnus     it's just a database with crazy rules, right? ;-)
19:42 paul_p     chris++
19:42 chris      they still need qa
19:42 chris      and then we could have a profile
19:42 chris      you pick on install
19:42 paul_p     maybe, but we don't have (m)any feedback...
19:42 chris      thats because no one has qa'd them yet
19:43 * paul_p   very annoyed by that and don't know what to do with it :(
19:43 chris      its hard because they are all still very very big branches
19:44 paul_p     yes, and how could we deal with this ?
19:45 owen       A separate branch for each individual bug fix/feature
19:45 chris      its hard now, the main thing is never do it again
19:45 chris      :)
19:45 chris      but to move qa along now
19:45 paul_p     owen & chris, yes, that's what we do now.
19:45 chris      we talked about meetings at the last general irc meeting
19:46 * paul_p   was in his bed, (ill)
19:46 chris      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/RFC_Meetings#QA_session_for_BibLibre_Branches
19:46 chris      you should try to make sure this happens, and try to get people to come along
19:47 chris      and then try to get them to volunteer to work on a group of patches each
19:47 cait       paul_p: I think you or hdl being around would be good - I have not worked on that, because they are too big for me and I don't know what some patches are supposed to do
19:49 cait       chris: when I find a bug is not working or there is still a problem - leave it to patch pushed? or delete the status?
19:49 chris      delete the status, and patch sent
19:49 chris      and put a note saying, doesnt work
19:50 cait       it's 4472 - I see a problem in 3.2.1 marc21 staff intranet detail view
19:50 cait       oh, with french
19:52 cait       I think the patch you pushed to 3.3 is probably missing in 3.2.1
19:52 magnus     bug 4472
19:52 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4472 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW, img tags in xslt broken after automatic translation
19:52 * Brooke   lays out a trail of chocolates to snare cait into chairing the QA meeting...
19:52 cait       no way Brooke
19:52 chris      right, note all that down and it will help chris_n` a lot
19:53 cait       Imight perhaps attend, but not chair
19:53 cait       yeah, I did - he is still hiding from me :)
19:53 Brooke     I'm not above groveling.
19:53 chris      heh
19:53 cait       not really, but tried to catch him online for some days no
19:53 cait       w
19:54 chris      i think he might be taking a well deserved break
19:54 cait       Brooke: these branches are a bit above my head
19:54 cait       @lastseen chris_n
19:54 munin      cait: Error: "lastseen" is not a valid command.
19:54 cait       @seen chris_n
19:54 wizzyrea   @seen chris_n
19:54 munin      cait: chris_n was last seen in #koha 5 days, 7 hours, 1 minute, and 17 seconds ago: * chris_n sends along regrets for missing the meeting this morning
19:54 wizzyrea   \
19:54 munin      wizzyrea: chris_n was last seen in #koha 5 days, 7 hours, 1 minute, and 17 seconds ago: * chris_n sends along regrets for missing the meeting this morning
19:55 owen       paul_p: I'm eager to test your OPAC branch but searching is still broken
19:55 nengard    okay i know i've asked this before - but i just updated to head and ran the db update that added OPACNoResultsFound (as well as other things) ... now when i look at the commit it says it's in a branch not in master ... so if I'm not on that branch why did my db update? or did it get pushed to master
19:56 chris      where are you looking at the commit?
19:57 chris      http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=summary
19:57 chris      cos i see it in master right there
20:01 nengard    in my email :)
20:01 nengard    so i just didn't get that email yet
20:01 nengard    thanks chris!
20:01 owen       "although there is an option to export MARC in Liberty, it seems you have to pay extra to have that turned on." Boy that sounds familiar
20:01 nengard    so it's in master - aka my 3.4 manual not my 3.2 manual
20:02 chris      owen: yeah
20:02 chris      antifeatures--
20:03 chris      right, gotta write up my topics for this summers open source academy
20:04 chris      we have 17 high school students coming in for a 2 week academy
20:04 magnus     cool
20:05 magnus     get'em while they're young!
20:06 cait       chris: I am so jealous of them
20:06 * Brooke   muses if she can pass for a high schooler...
20:06 cait       :)
20:08 chris      heh
20:09 chris      have to wait til next summer, full up this year
20:09 chris      im gonna get them writing unit tests
20:09 chris      its the easiest way to learn
20:09 chris      and they will be able to get a patch into koha that way
20:09 jcamins    chris: first one's free?
20:10 chris      well ill take anyones unit tests
20:10 chris      1/ it cant actually break koha
20:10 chris      2/ its a test!!!
20:10 jcamins    And don't forget, once your name is listed as a committer to Koha, you have motivation to make your commit statistics look more impressive? ;)
20:11 magnus     hehe
20:11 cait       which reminds me ohloh needs an update ;)
20:12 cait       chris: can we register for next year?
20:12 chris      jcamins: exactly :)
20:12 chris      hehe, well we have 2 programmes
20:12 nengard    okay 3.4 manual is now different from 3.2 manual by one preference :)
20:12 chris      summer of tech
20:12 cait       I would even fly another 60 hours to spend 2 weeks learning about open source
20:12 chris      which chris hall is working on, and doing all the template-toolkit work
20:12 chris      very well i might add
20:12 chris      for university students
20:12 chris      and the academy for high school ones
20:13 chris      but we could certainly run one for adults too :)
20:13 * Brooke   cheers.
20:13 chris      on a boat
20:13 chris      in alaska
20:13 * cait     will even go on a boat
20:13 cait       and alaska... that's not as far away as nz, right?
20:14 magnus     cait: can't be :-)
20:14 wizzyrea   for you, probably not, especially if you fly polar
20:14 * owen     would learn Perl on a boat, would learn Perl with a goat. Would on a train, would in the rain.
20:14 wizzyrea   ok, owen
20:14 wizzyrea   http://screencast.com/t/BFgkUzuQXJ
20:14 cait       owen++
20:14 magnus     owen++
20:15 wizzyrea   and anyone else, for that matter
20:15 chris      thats not a boat in alaska!
20:15 wizzyrea   I've talked to several of my librarians about this particular report
20:15 wizzyrea   they don't find the pub data helpful
20:15 wizzyrea   and it wastes space/paper
20:16 cait       pub data?
20:16 wizzyrea   yea, it's missing, in this view, because I want to get rid of it
20:16 chris      cait: your book is at the pub, go get it, and get me a beer too
20:16 wizzyrea   publishing house, copyright date
20:16 cait       lol
20:16 owen       The pub data was important when we didn't have barcodes
20:16 cait       ah
20:16 * chris    may or may not have had too much sugar
20:16 cait       chris: so we can have the adult academy next year? :)
20:16 * wizzyrea hands chris a protein shake to counteract that
20:17 wizzyrea   anyway, we could make it so much neater if we left off the patron name
20:17 cait       oh wizzyrea, I was trying to get him to promise that... and now?
20:17 chris      cait: email me, ill run it past the directors :)
20:18 cait       you are mean - you know how I hate writing english mails
20:18 * cait     volunteers Brooke
20:18 wizzyrea   he can get kristina to translate lol
20:18 chris      yeah send it in german
20:18 chris      kristina can translate :)
20:19 Brooke     Oh me dear, I'll write whatever you wish if ye chair a meeting or two.
20:19 Brooke     manus manum lavat ;)
20:19 cait       args
20:19 cait       when will this Monday be over?
20:19 wizzyrea   NEVAR
20:19 chris      cait: chairing is easy with meetingbot :)
20:19 cait       Aaaah!
20:20 magnus     cait: in about 2 hours and 40 mins?
20:20 chris      did you see the minutes it made?
20:20 jcamins    wizzyrea: don't say that. Please don't say that. The powers that be might hear you and think that's a request.
20:20 chris      yo owen!
20:20 owen       ?
20:20 chris      http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-shelves.pl?viewshelf=98&sortfield=title#
20:20 chris      someone got a sense of humour at your library?
20:20 chris      :)
20:20 owen       That's the trouble with letting your patrons add public lists
20:21 Brooke     cait it's clearly Tuesday.
20:21 chris      its a classic, i love it :)
20:21 cait       rofl
20:21 * owen     would like to be able to restrict the public from creating public lists
20:21 chris      i thoguth we could?
20:22 cait       nope
20:22 cait       owen: but I did restrict them with jquery
20:22 Brooke     that's missing Lackey.
20:22 cait       removed public as an option fromall of the pull downs and preset it to private
20:22 chris      if theres not a bug, their definitely should be
20:22 owen       cait: I should have thought of that!
20:22 chris      thats an easy syspref to add
20:22 cait       you can look at hfjs.bsz-bw.de for the code
20:23 chris      cait: you could put it on the wiki :)
20:23 cait       nobody managed to add a public list until now - so I perhaps forgot nothing
20:23 * cait     hides
20:23 chris      wizzyrea: hlt had me add more data to the pub info, so it would have to be a syspref
20:23 wizzyrea   k
20:23 wizzyrea   ty, that's what I needed to know
20:23 wizzyrea   and they probably wanted the patron info too?
20:23 cait       owen: we can make it a syspref too - if you help me with the english wording and the templates ;)
20:24 wizzyrea   or no?
20:24 chris      wizzyrea: yeah they did
20:25 wizzyrea   chris: then what I'll do is make it easy to nuke that column with jquery instead of removing it.
20:25 chris      that works
20:26 wizzyrea   bc our libraries don't like to have to shred
20:26 wizzyrea   they are lazy
20:26 wizzyrea   also around the pub data I will add a div so you could nuke that with jquery too.
20:27 chris      cait: it would definitely be good to be done at code level too, so id add a bug or find the one that exists
20:27 wizzyrea   but it won't change the look of it at all.
20:27 chris      cool
20:27 cait       chris: adding it to those long list...
20:27 chris      :)
20:27 cait       no, I actually think there is one somewhere
20:28 cait       we have to play archeologists and find it -... magnus may want to help ;)
20:28 owen       Here's one snag if you've got a public list you want to make private: You can't edit a list unless you're the owner--even if the creator is a patron and you're a superlibrarian!
20:28 cait       yep
20:28 cait       hm I think superlibrarians can edit staff lists
20:28 cait       we made a list user for our staff at the library
20:29 owen       The staff interface to lists ought to show the owner
20:29 cait       but at first I didn't understand their problem, because I was always logged in as superlibrarian
20:30 jcamins    It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's...
20:30 jcamins    superlibrarian!
20:30 jcamins    <.<
20:30 jcamins    >.>
20:30 jcamins    Monday made me do it.
20:31 Brooke     heheh
20:31 Brooke     we need "I'm a Superlibrarian" bumperstickers ;)
20:31 cait       lol
20:36 cait       owen: what about bug 3523 - I remember that being fixed by a more link? or is that something different?
20:36 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3523 normal, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Menu of existing lists limited to 10
20:36 cait       ah right, what I mean was the list at the top, right?
20:37 owen       I proposed a "more" link in my comment on that bug
20:40 cait       ok, was looking for the public lists bug
20:40 cait       can't find one
20:41 owen       Bug 5487
20:41 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5487 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Add granular permission for editing any list
20:41 cait       any list... I searched for public and open lists :)
20:43 owen       Bug 5488
20:43 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5488 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Restrict the type of list which can be created by non-staff users
20:44 cait       perhaps we can close bug 3094?
20:44 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3094 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Public Virtual Shelf can be Modified / Deleted by any non-logged in patron
20:44 owen       I couldn't reproduce it, so you've got my vote
20:45 cait       I feel brave enough to close it.
20:45 druthb     cait++
20:46 cait       for that?
20:46 cait       hmpf.
20:46 owen       It's ++ inflation is what it is!
20:47 owen       ++inflation-- !
20:47 * wizzyrea imagines munin's head exploding.
20:47 * owen     was waiting for it
20:48 cait       poor munin
20:48 cait       munin botsnack lots of sugar
20:48 munin      cait: Error: "botsnack" is not a valid command.
20:48 cait       ?
20:48 cait       have I imagined feeding you cookies?
20:48 jcamins    cait: munin's head exploded. How can s/he eat with no mouth?
20:48 magnus     hehe
20:48 cait       hm good point
20:49 cait       ibot botsnack cookie
20:49 ibot       :)
20:49 cait       !hudson botsnack cookie
20:49 hudsonbot  cait: yummy! I could eat cookie all day long
20:51 cait       ok... this is perhaps a bit mean
20:52 Brooke     hi ccorales
20:52 cait       hi Ccoralles
20:53 chris      hi Ccorrales
20:54 chris      ok meeting time
20:54 chris      bbiab
20:55 chris      http://catalog.ci.arcadia.ca.us/  <-- congrats to arcadia
20:56 cait       arcadia++
20:56 chris      any bywaterians about?
20:56 cait       owen: ++inflation! :)
20:57 nengard    chris i'm here
20:57 chris      can you get them to fix the footer?
20:57 chris      you'll spot what i mean
20:57 nengard    oh crap!!!
20:57 nengard    yes right away
20:57 chris      thanks
20:59 chris      now im really going to my meeting
21:00 cait       @wunder Konstanz
21:00 munin      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -5.9�C (10:00 PM CET on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023.2 hPa (Steady).
21:00 cait       hah, -0.1 less
21:00 magnus     @wunder bodo, norway
21:00 munin      magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (9:50 PM CET on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
21:01 magnus     hah, 1.0 warmer
21:01 druthb     @wunder 20852
21:01 munin      druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is -3.0�C (4:00 PM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995.1 hPa (Rising).
21:01 magnus     time to take the dogs out - good night #koha
21:01 druthb     warmer in Bodo than in DC!  yow!
21:02 magnus     hehe
21:02 wizzyrea   @wunder 66047
21:02 munin      wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -4.1�C (3:04 PM CST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -17.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Steady).
21:02 wizzyrea   you're having a warm day in norway, magnus
21:02 magnus     yep, should be even warmer tomorrow - we'll see
21:03 cait       I win
21:03 cait       coldest place
21:03 magnus     hehe
21:03 cait       :(
21:09 owen       @wunder 45701
21:09 munin      owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is -7.8�C (4:10 PM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Rising).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 1 am EST Tuesday... 
21:09 cait       oh no
21:09 owen       Sorry cait, I win
21:10 cait       owen gets the prize
21:10 nengard    @wunder 19030
21:10 Brooke     pffft, only prize in Ohio is the ice cream at Youngstown.
21:10 munin      nengard: The current temperature in Mercer County, Ewing, New Jersey is 0.8�C (4:12 PM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.32 in 992.8 hPa (Steady).
21:10 Brooke     Ewing is miles away. Bloody thing has no respect for rural areas.
21:11 Brooke     @wunder 12222
21:11 munin      Brooke: The current temperature in Wellington Ave, Albany, New York is -1.9�C (4:13 PM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991.1 hPa (Steady).
21:13 nengard    Brooke I wouldn't even call this a rural area
21:13 nengard    no farms in sight :)
21:14 * Brooke   threatens Nicole with another field trip.
21:15 nengard    hehe
21:15 nengard    i'm coming your way for SLA leadership next month
21:16 nengard    and then again in march for CIL
21:16 * Brooke   salutes jransom with respect
21:16 Brooke     well, I still owe you at least one shuttle ride.
21:17 nengard    okay all, it's quitting time and I'm fighting off something so I'm actually going to quit and rest and try to beat this thing before it starts  (i'll accept a shuttle ride from train to hotel when i'm in town)
21:18 cait       hi jo :)
21:19 jcamins    jransom: that slice recipe looked amazing.
21:19 Brooke     did it not?
21:21 jransom    Hi all
21:22 druthb     hi, jransom :)
21:22 jransom    Brooke: thank for the earrings - I'm wearing them now!
21:22 jransom    hey beb
21:22 jransom    babe
21:22 * druthb   blushes a little.
21:22 jransom    smiles hugely
21:23 cait       all those recipes look amazing
21:23 cait       and I love the stories :)
21:23 Brooke     aye
21:26 wizzyrea   erg owen left
21:26 jransom    I'm enjoying writing it actually
21:26 jransom    I love too that the recipes all do have stories around them at this stage
21:26 jransom    I'm putting those up first - it might get a bit scratchy later
21:26 cait       some photos would be great :)
21:26 jransom    and sooner or later, well now actually, I am going to have to admit that I don't have many recipes for 'real' food at all .... I tend to throw stuff together
21:27 wizzyrea   ok, git gurus, owen asked me for a single patch that includes everything to fix bug 5143, I can't figure out how to do that
21:27 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5143 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED, Subtitles not showing on view_holdsqueue.pl
21:27 wizzyrea   but I have everything in place
21:27 jransom    yep - I think they would be great to. I made the eggplant on sunday and should have photographed it but forgot. I will rtrospectively add photos as i cook them
21:28 wizzyrea   or, we could take photos of jransom's food when we cook it, and tag it ;)
21:34 * druthb   is headed out.  see ya soon!
21:34 cait       bye druthb
21:34 cait       wizzyrea: :)
21:34 cait       I am confusing my bugs - time to go to bed
21:34 cait       so you all tomorrow!
21:36 cait       see..
21:37 jransom    @wizzyrea - I love that idea :)
21:37 munin      jransom: Error: "wizzyrea" is not a valid command.
21:37 jransom    confusing my socialmedia forum
21:37 wizzyrea   :) it's still earlyish for you
21:37 jransom    wizzyrea : I love that idea
21:42 jcamins    Good night, #koha
21:43 wizzyrea   jransom: spud is still loving on his robot light, i'm amazed it hasn't run down
21:44 jransom    I am so pleased!
21:45 jransom    his face was pure joy when i gave it to him
21:45 jransom    if it does you can unscrew the back and pop another battery in - its a watch battery i think
21:45 jransom    night
21:48 paul_p     time to go to bed... see you later ppl !
21:48 jransom    goodnight paul
21:48 Brooke     night!
21:56 wizzyrea   ok, now I see the recipe they were talking about, and have an intense urge to eat eggplant.
21:56 Brooke     mmmmmm aubergines
21:57 * Brooke   wonders how many sets of rollatini she pumped out of the olde kitchen.
21:58 Brooke     though of course shoulda been involtini, but no convincing Yanks on that.
22:10 robin      if anyone wants a nice, simple patch to practice signing off: bug 5294
22:10 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5294 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, NEW, Vendor name shows with '%20'
22:19 * Brooke   waves to darling
22:29 * darling  waves back and looks around for coffee cup
22:55 moodaepo   @wunder 56001
22:55 munin      moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -17.2�C (4:57 PM CST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -21.0�C. Windchill: -17.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1024.9 hPa (Steady).
22:56 Brooke     yee haw, did you get a dusting?
22:58 gmcharlt   @wunder 32605
22:58 munin      gmcharlt: The current temperature in Central Gainesville, Gainesville, Florida is 3.8�C (6:00 PM EST on December 13, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Steady).  Lake Wind Advisory in effect until 7 PM EST this evening... 
23:34 Brooke     there are actual snowflakes out there. The nerve!
23:38 druthb     hi. :)
23:38 * Brooke   waves to ruth
23:54 * Brooke   salutes jransom with respect.
23:54 jransom    someone unplugged NZ again I think
23:55 * Brooke   thinks your packet noams sleep for 20 hours of 24.
23:55 chris      hmm seems fine to me jransom
23:56 Brooke     don't taunt the woman, Chris. She has powers that make your ginger beer exploderate.