Time Nick Message 00:13 rhcl_away ibot speaks Chinese? 00:13 ibot no idea, rhcl_away 01:12 ray Good morning! 01:12 ray How can I show the item number of books in the OPAC? 03:02 * druthb slips back in 03:40 jransom druthb : isn't it like the middle of the night over there? 03:40 druthb 22:45. Not *that* late. 03:48 jransom oh - not its hardly late at all :) 04:00 brendan evening 04:01 * druthb waves to brendan 04:05 jransom hiya 04:05 brendan heya jransom 05:02 brendan @wunder 93117 05:02 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.4�C (8:59 PM PST on December 09, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Steady). 05:11 cait morning #koha 05:20 brendan morning cait 05:20 cait hi brendan :) 05:33 brendan how's things cait? 05:34 cait still trying to wake up 05:34 cait and you are still here? :) 05:34 brendan yeah gonna be here for a bit :) 05:53 cait still dark outside :( 06:39 cait brendan: as you are still around... looking at bug 4160 06:39 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4160 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Currency Conversion dosn't handle rates other than 100 06:39 cait you think the posted solution is ok to write into a patch? 06:39 brendan I am around - not currently though 06:39 brendan I mean I'm off wrapping my mind on something else for the moment 06:40 cait ok :) 06:41 cait just looking for a second opinion 06:41 cait I will write it up - it will be easy to change the data type if someone suggests something else 06:44 cait git.koha-community.org is broken for me with an xml error :( 06:44 brendan trying to clone from there? 06:44 brendan or just view? 06:44 brendan if viewing - it worked for me 06:48 cait no just view 06:48 cait cloning went ok 06:52 brendan ah ok - sorry worked fine from here :) 06:55 cait strange 06:55 cait unhappy firefoy maybe 06:57 cait firefox 07:04 cait ok patch done, waiting for complaints ;) 07:04 chris back 07:04 chris i might try and catch up patches over the weekned, otherwise they will have to wait until monday 07:08 brendan heya chris 07:08 brendan wb 07:17 cait hi chris :) 07:17 cait everything went ok? 07:18 chris yup 07:19 cait cool :) 07:26 cait ok, time to get ready for work - bye all! 08:12 kf hi #koha 08:16 magnus kia ora, #koha 08:16 chris hi kf and magnus 08:17 kf hi chris... you are still here :) 08:17 kf god morgen magnus :) 08:18 magnus hi chris & kf 08:18 magnus isn't chris always here? ;-) 08:22 kf hm, kind of 08:32 * magnus will be attending a training course on SPARQL through skype for the rest of the day 08:32 kf oh 09:21 kf hi ivanc 09:21 ivanc guten morgen kf 09:21 ivanc hi #koha 09:40 brendan_l night #koha :) 09:41 kf good ngiht brendan 10:25 kmkale I upgraded one library from 3.00.05 to 3.02.01 and the empty yellow box on circulation is back :( 10:27 kmkale there is no error reported in logs at all.. 10:44 kf the empty yellow box for accounts with an overdue book? 10:46 kmkale yup 10:46 kmkale I have discovered this installation is using en-GB for staff interface. Inspite of en being selected in sysprefs. 10:47 kf ah, have you recreated your templates after updating? 10:47 kmkale and there are tns of diferences between en & en-GB in circulation.tmpl 10:47 kmkale recreated templates? how? 10:47 kf standard or dev install? 10:48 kmkale standard 10:48 kf hm, never done it there, but what I do in my dev installations is: cd misc/translator, perl translate install en-GB 10:49 kmkale ughh. Never had to do that. Mystery is why is it using en-GB 10:49 kf yeah 10:49 kf that is mysterious 10:49 kf do you need it? 10:50 kmkale when syspref says en. I changed syspref to and fro some value. No effect 10:50 kf hm, could perhaps be your browser settings - it's trying to guess the right language from there 10:50 kmkale en-GB? nope 10:50 kf you could delete de en-GB folders 10:50 kmkale trying 10:50 kf a bit drastic perhaps... but they are not up to date anyway 10:50 kf delete the... 10:52 kmkale hah moved en-GB dir to old-en-GB and it did the trick. Now I am getting "Patron has had overdue items and is blocked for 10 day(s)." 10:53 kf yeah, your templates were not up-to-date 10:53 kf perhaps you will see problems with other languages too 10:53 kf how did oyu do your update? 10:53 kf have you downloaded the tarball with all language files included? 10:53 kmkale yikes kf. its eerie the way we keep returning to translations past few days :( 10:53 kf quite normal for me :) 10:54 kmkale yup tarball download. then followed the upgrade process with old install log etc 10:54 kf I have accepted translation as a never ending story 10:54 kf yeah, but which tarball? 10:54 kf the bigger or the small one? 10:54 kmkale koha-3.02.01.tar.gz 10:55 kf did it include the directories for en-GB? 10:55 kmkale 32mb 10:55 kf unpacked? 10:56 kf if it didn't include the templates for the other languages you will need to update them 10:56 kmkale no the unpacked tarball does not have en-GB 10:56 kmkale no wonder 10:56 kmkale how do I update templates? 10:57 kmkale more importantly why is it using en-GB in the first place. How do I hunt that 10:57 kf I suspect your language settings in the browser 10:58 kf it's trying to detect the language - I am sometimes forced to look at really ugly German OPACs - because people modified templates for only one language or forget to put the css files in all language folders 10:58 kf and you can try running the translation script 10:59 kf from misc/translator run perl translate install <language-code> 10:59 kf ok, lunch time :) 10:59 kf will be back later 10:59 kmkale bye and thanks again 11:34 kf back 11:45 kmkale I could not figure out why it was taking en-GB. My browser is set to en_IN and the mysql syspref was set to en. 11:58 kf hm, no idea then 12:09 pastebot "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "IN 3.02.01 missing AllowIssuingForPatronsWithOverdues in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/circulation.pref" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/114 12:11 kmkale I have the AllowIssuingForPatronsWithOverdues syspref in mysql table; I have the corresponding USERBLOCKEDOVERDUE and USERBLOCKEDREMAINING blocks in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/circ/circulation.tmpl but no AllowIssuingForPatronsWithOverdues section in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/circulation.pref as you can see from the above paste 12:11 kf kmkale: you can add to the general syspref chaos bug: bug 5474 12:11 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5474 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Missing sys prefs in translated sysprefs.sql 12:12 kmkale as bug 4036 was fixed resolved and pushed it should be there. :( 12:12 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4036 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Two conditions missing from circ template messages: USERBLOCKEDOVERDUE and USERBLOCKEDREMAINING 12:12 kmkale but its NOT translated. This in en :( 12:12 kf hm yes it probably should 12:12 kf there was anotherproblem like yours added to the bug today 12:12 kf I think the sql files and .pref files are not in sync 12:13 kmkale and I have downloaded stable tar.gz from site yesterday and checked the mdy ;) 12:13 kmkale s/mdy/md5/ 12:13 kf I believe you ;) 12:14 kf and it should have been added I think: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=1795 12:17 kmkale And I dont have AllowIssuingForPatronsWithOverdues in C4/Members.pm 12:18 kmkale now I am going mad 12:19 kf plz don't 12:21 kf git search for bug number: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=4036 12:22 kf kmkale: it seems it's not in git? 12:23 kf don't see it here, plz check: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences;h=07aa91541c47c8aaf07f6af672027231582945e8;hb=e54169ba0f06cd835d72936e14012933a67793e7 12:25 kmkale kf: It seems patch pushed was different from patches attached to the bug report? 12:30 kf kmkale: yep, I think you are right 12:30 kf not sure I found all - perhaps some were pushed without the bug number in subject 12:30 kf I think this is a bug - can you file a short bug report? 12:31 kmkale sorry phone call 12:32 kmkale I made changes as per patch attached to bug 4036 and now the system is working as expected. 12:32 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4036 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Two conditions missing from circ template messages: USERBLOCKEDOVERDUE and USERBLOCKEDREMAINING 12:32 kf or better - reopen the existing bug with your findings? 12:32 kmkale 4036? 12:33 kf not sure 12:33 ibot not sure are you using git? 12:33 kf hehe 12:33 kf ibot: git? 12:33 ibot well, git is found at http://git.koha-community.org 12:33 kmkale no. for this install I am using stable tarball 12:34 kmkale its an upgrade from 3.00.05 to 3.02.01 12:35 kmkale i will send a mail on koha-devel with what I found 12:37 kf kmkale: the problem is that I don't see the it in the .pref file on git either 12:37 kf it's nto there 12:37 kf so it can't exist in your pref file 12:38 kmkale but one thing is sure there is no AllowIssuingForPatronsWithOverdues in C4/Members.pm in the untarred source tree of koha-3.02.01.tar.gz 12:38 kmkale i just checked 12:39 kf was it ther in 3.0.x? 12:40 kmkale checking 12:40 kmkale no 12:41 kmkale but since the tmpl functionality existed in 3.2 there was a problem of blank yellow box. 12:41 kmkale adding the syspref and member.pm bits resolved the issue 12:41 kf yeah 12:41 kf you could send a patch? :) 12:44 kmkale nope 12:45 kmkale I will send a email on koha-devel 12:45 kmkale I wish gmcharlt will take a look at this since he seems to have pushed the patches here http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=4036 13:36 kmkale bbl 14:11 kf hi owen 14:12 owen Hi 15:18 owen It's like being the doorman in a busy building. Just people coming and going. 15:18 trea indeed 15:19 kf :) 15:37 kf time to go - see you all later :) 15:51 hdl hi owen 16:34 jwagner It's snowing outside! That wasn't in the forecast for today.... 17:22 jcamins For any of the NZers around- what's a Slice? Joann's recipe sounds delicious, but I have no idea what it's supposed to come out looking like. 17:26 chris http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3319/3253062472_a48558dd29.jpg 17:28 owen Hm, why didn't I pack that in my lunch? 18:00 owen I just pushed a branch for my jquery-ui work so far if anyone is interested: http://gitorious.org/koha-dev/koha-dev 18:00 owen ip-bug-5481-jquery-ui-2010-12-09 is the branch 18:02 jcamins Mmmm. That looks good. 19:00 * Brooke waves to Magnus. 19:00 * magnus waves back to Brooke and the rest of #koha 19:13 brendan morning 19:15 magnus hiya brendan 19:15 brendan hey magnus 19:17 * Brooke waves at wizzy 19:17 magnus is wizzyrea_ playing hide and seek with us or something? 19:18 Brooke Dunno, count to a hundred and see if she returns. ;) 19:19 magnus ok 19:20 magnus ...and 100 19:26 * Brooke admires Magnus' advanced counting mechanics. 19:27 Brooke Now go ask your father. 19:28 magnus perl -e 'print 1..100' 19:31 Brooke :D 19:35 magnus hiya druthb 19:35 druthb hi, magnus! :) 20:22 sylvar magnus: I used a trick like perl -e 'print 1..100' when I was about 10 years old. I had been bad and was given the punishment of writing something 100 times. I asked if I could type it because I was trying to teach myself how to type. 20:23 sylvar The teacher never heard of letter-quality daisywheel printers. 10 FOR X = 1 TO 100 20 LPRINT "I will not cheat on my assignments" 30 NEXT X 20:31 Brooke heh heh 20:32 magnus hee hee 20:33 * Brooke waves at ebegin 20:33 ebegin hi brooke! 20:33 ebegin got to go! 20:36 chris I give up, its like talking to a brickwall 20:39 nengard :( 20:40 chris Every year the same thing 20:43 cait hi #koha 20:45 Brooke hi Cait :D 20:45 cait hi Broooke 20:47 magnus hiya cait 20:47 cait hi magnus 20:47 cait do you know a-team? where one of them doesn't want to fly? 20:48 cait and nengard doesn't want to go on a boat... 20:48 nengard no boats 20:48 cait oh no, she is here 20:48 nengard boats + nicole = big horrible mess 20:48 * cait hides 20:48 owen Sorry nengard , we'll miss you during our cruise! 20:48 Brooke ooooooooh 20:48 Brooke that can TOTALLY be next KohaCon 20:48 nengard KohaCon without Nicole ... whoever will do the speaking?? :) 20:49 magnus good question ;-) 20:49 Brooke *sigh* 20:49 Brooke there will always be a blocker for each of my ideas. 20:49 magnus nengard: you could use skype to talk to us from solid ground somewhere ;-) 20:49 nengard as much as i like you all - nothing will get me on a boat for more than a short ride (and only then if there are no roads) 20:50 magnus because of the boat as such or because of waves? 20:52 nengard because it's a floating death trap ... and cause of the rocking ... and cause it's a floating death trap :) 20:53 chris pshaw, its about 1million times safer than a car 20:53 nengard car isn't on water 20:53 nengard :) 20:53 cait nengard: and a flying death trap is better? ;) 20:53 magnus ooh, good one, cait ;-) 20:54 Brooke yeah 20:54 Brooke I'd much rather take me chances swimming than falling. 20:54 chris yeah or burning 20:54 magnus +1 20:54 chris or smashing 20:54 chris or being thrown throw a window 20:54 chris thru even 20:54 nengard not convincing me 20:54 nengard no boats 20:54 Brooke no, no, no. I only wanted to set meself on fire while Bush was Resident. 20:55 magnus resident president? ;-) 20:57 * cait whispers to magnus: we could kidnap her... don't let her look through windows or on deck... tell her it's underground 20:58 nengard why are we stuck on this being a cruise exactly? 20:58 * magnus whispers to cait: hey, good plan! 20:58 cait magnus? 20:58 ibot rumour has it magnus is an awesome fellow 20:58 cait yeah, because of that 20:58 nengard hehe 20:59 * owen fears good internet connectivity would be a problem on a cruise 20:59 nengard good point 20:59 nengard guess we'll need to hold it ON LAND 21:00 Brooke pff, that's infinitely solveable with Satellite. 21:00 magnus well, http://www.insightcruises.com/ does all kinds of geek cruises i would thnk they have figured that one out ;-) 21:00 * Brooke highfives Magnus 21:00 magnus yay! 21:03 cait hehe 21:03 magnus kohacruise? 21:03 ibot i heard kohacruise was a good idea 21:03 nengard magnus didn't even click the link - no boats 21:04 jc_ircdem Hello all, demoing IRC through Mibbit for an intern. 21:04 magnus hiya jc_ircdem 21:04 * owen remembers when insightcruises was geekcruises and they did cruises devoted to Perl and stuff like that 21:04 Brooke Hi there folks on the other side of the interweb tubes. 21:06 magnus owen: i thought that's what they do still? at least they have some mac cruises planned? 21:06 owen magnus: Yeah, but mostly it's much less geeky now, at least less computer-geeky 21:07 owen Now it's science and astronomy and history and, uh... quilting? 21:07 * Brooke suspects Owen is a proprietary geek because he isn't open to starwatchers and history buffs. 21:07 Brooke Get off the lawn!!!! 21:07 * owen is just sorry he missed his chance to ever go on the "Perl Whirl" cruise 21:07 Brooke ask for it again :D 21:08 Brooke And the Wisconsin Women Library Workers will quilt a fine story. 21:09 owen I have an SQL question: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Monthly_holds_filled_by_branch 21:09 owen The " concat(date_format(LAST_DAY(now() - interval 1 month),'%Y-%m-%')) " 21:10 owen That would result in "2010-11" ? 21:10 magnus hm, yeah '%Y-%m-%' doesn't look too promising... 21:15 owen why the concat() ? 21:15 magnus beats me, seems it's only concat'ing the one value 21:16 cait sometimes it makes your fields shorter - nicer display 21:16 cait in mysql gui something... not sure about koha ;) 21:17 owen Okay, thanks guys. Time to start the weekend. 21:18 magnus good idea! 21:20 cait starting the weekend means leaving #koha? 21:21 cait I hope not 21:21 magnus hehe 21:22 jcamins Good night, #koha 21:22 Brooke night 21:38 cait chris_n: around? 22:33 magnus g'night #koha - see you tomorrow! 22:33 trea night magnus 23:03 cait good night all