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22:55 * darling wonders if our kitty would wear http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.18972
22:42 wizzyrea \o/
22:42 ibot it has been said that GraphicsMagick is avaliable in package form for the following Operating Systems: Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, 1.3.5 in Sid and Ubuntu Lucid. Regarding the update message, all Koha functions still work even if you only have Version 1.1.11.
22:42 wizzyrea GraphicsMagick?
22:42 munin wizzyrea: Quote #93: "Koha is not an acronym, so it should not be in all-capitals. Koha is a Maori word." (added by wizzyrea at 07:20 PM, September 09, 2010)
22:42 wizzyrea @quote random
22:42 robin man, so much stuff I want to buy from there.
22:37 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5048, Error in menu/submenu for select language in intranet
22:37 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5030 - Improve handling of duplicate patrons
22:37 hudsonbot * FrÃ©dÃ©ric Demians: Bug 5444 Fix misc/translate script for 'standard' Koha install
22:37 hudsonbot * Ian Walls: Bug 4449: AllowHoldPolicyOverride does not override all hold policies
22:37 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5029 - Update patron deletion error page
22:37 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 5405: remove disused script catalogue/suggest.pl
22:37 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Further fixes for Bug 5142 - Untranslatable strings in tag review template
22:37 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Adding 3.2.1 release to the history
22:37 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Fixing formatting and links in the history document
22:37 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Fix some compile time errors reported in test suite
22:37 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 5448: Refactor Boolean.pm
22:37 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 5448 Use Test::More in Boolean.t
22:37 hudsonbot * Ian Walls: Fixes bug 5232: Shelfname won't display on high-numbered lists
22:37 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build #51: SUCCESS in 20 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/51/
22:36 robin hmm, looks on the photo that it has the one my phone uses
22:35 robin well, I'm thinking more of taking it camping, in which case a torch is good too. What USB connectors does it have?
22:34 darling might be will to part w/this one
22:34 darling picked up a different one (w/out flashlight function) while I was there
22:33 darling i ordered it for my NA trip a while back
22:33 robin darling: that actually looks quite useful
22:32 druthb darn thing has had it in for me for a while now.
22:31 brendan pushing your luck there
22:31 druthb whew.
22:31 munin druthb: *click*
22:31 druthb @roulette
22:31 munin druthb: *click*
22:31 druthb @roulette
22:31 munin druthb: *click*
22:31 druthb @roulette
22:31 darling http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.17836
22:31 druthb fwaz...
22:30 munin druthb: Quote #27: "<jdavidb> ("A helicopter does not fly; it is a collection of quasi-unrelated parts moving in close formation, beating the sky into submission.")" (added by gmcharlt at 09:21 PM, August 22, 2009)
22:30 druthb @quote random
22:30 druthb !
22:30 munin druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010)
22:30 druthb @quote random
22:29 chris fredericd++ #thanks for reformatting and testing the facets patch
22:28 munin wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #109 added.
22:28 wizzyrea @quote add <darling>yep â€” china kicks ass
22:28 wizzyrea doh
22:28 munin wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
22:28 wizzyrea @quote add <darling>yep â€” china kicks ass
22:28 robin darling: linky?
22:26 darling yep -- china kicks ass
22:26 trea indeed
22:26 wizzyrea combo flashlight cell phone chargerâ€¦ that's a really good idea :P
22:26 darling as one of those
22:26 darling i just hope it works
22:25 Brooke hooray!
22:25 darling nothing can bring me down today tho -- got my combo flashlight cell phone charger from deal extreme in the mail
22:24 chris :)
22:24 darling oh, look, found one more reason why non-free is non-cool
22:24 darling wonder if it's true for my random non-free hp laptop display driver tho
22:23 darling thought that was true by now
22:22 robin these days there's very little different between 32 and 64 bits on Linux. Pretty much everything works on both.
22:20 darling wondered if it might
22:20 darling ah, sweet
22:17 robin darling / drulm: all our stuff is running on 64 bit
22:16 hudsonbot Starting build 51 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:13 Brooke and I had such a tiny collection with a single branch on an old version that my data wouldn't make much sense anymore.
22:12 Brooke now what that point is these days, I've no idea.
22:12 Brooke it'll run on just about anything, but you get what you pay for up to a certain breaking point.
22:12 Brooke *nod* it's a good idea.
22:11 drulm Been swamped with side projects, & updated to 3.2 recently on test VM, but wanted to do a fresh install for 3.2 upgrade
22:10 drulm Thanks! :)
22:10 Brooke I'm sure we have collections about the same size *someplace* I just wanted to get a down and dirty comparison for ye.
22:09 Brooke might want to ask Rangitikei what they're running and then double it for the same performance since their collection is at 50k.
22:08 munin New commit(s) kohagit32: Fix for Bug 5048, Error in menu/submenu for select language in intranet <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=157ee4096b156988df2be8d145726b9d94cd5215> / Fix for Bug 5030 - Improve handling of duplicate patrons <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c3214b6e6e310afd4c6a5faf063936d67b3b8d6> / Bug 5444 Fix misc/translate script for 'standard' Koha install <http://git.koha
22:08 drulm Yeah, I *assume* the perl will all work, but...
22:08 darling will put that on my 'do this' list
22:07 darling but I'm being silly and need to get over that
22:07 darling I've been hesitant to go 64bit in my test env
22:07 drulm I just posted. Thanks
22:06 darling drulm, definitely sounds like one for the mailing list -- but I haven't heard of any problems re that
22:05 drulm Ive had good luck with an ESXi 64 bit install, just seeing if there were issues with any 32 bit apts
22:05 Brooke hang on a tick, k?
22:05 drulm yep
22:05 Brooke is it a single library?
22:03 drulm 130,000
22:00 Brooke what's the size of the collection in question?
21:59 wizzyrea no clue, and it's been really quiet here today
21:50 drulm An easy one - perhaps. amd64 w/ Koha, good, bad, ugly? Virtualization? Any efforts good or bad? Thanks!
21:49 drulm Hello, all, I have a question? :)
21:16 jcamins Good night, #koha
20:51 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5048, Error in menu/submenu for select language in intranet
20:51 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5030 - Improve handling of duplicate patrons
20:51 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5029 - Update patron deletion error page
20:51 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 5405: remove disused script catalogue/suggest.pl
20:51 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #183: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/183/
20:38 jcamins merge_conflicts--
20:38 jcamins Argh!@
20:30 hudsonbot Starting build 183 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:29 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Further fixes for Bug 5142 - Untranslatable strings in tag review template
20:29 hudsonbot * FrÃ©dÃ©ric Demians: Bug 5444 Fix misc/translate script for 'standard' Koha install
20:29 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Adding 3.2.1 release to the history
20:29 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Fixing formatting and links in the history document
20:29 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Fix some compile time errors reported in test suite
20:29 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 5448: Refactor Boolean.pm
20:29 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 5448 Use Test::More in Boolean.t
20:29 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #182: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/182/
20:28 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5048, Error in menu/submenu for select language in intranet <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1024eceec715fed2f5c38ac6998ff9be75240280> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5030' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=00408e262fbe58f4c6a3fbb722a0cb56d3d22f6c> / Fix for Bug 5030 - Improve handling of duplicate patrons <http://git.koha-community.or
20:24 cait ok, will go and hide in bed with my accounting book - see you all in some hours
20:22 ibot thanks cait :)
20:22 cait ibot botsnack cookie
20:21 ibot somebody said install.debian was at git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian
20:21 jcamins install.debian?
20:19 jcamins install.debian is at git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian
20:18 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5405: remove disused script catalogue/suggest.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9753368626e631ebb06929278d408453186c2528>
20:13 jcamins install.debian?
20:12 * druthb gathers up her stuff and heads for the bus.
20:10 * sekjal waves back to Brooke
20:10 Brooke me waves at sekjal
20:08 hudsonbot Starting build 182 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:08 hudsonbot * Ian Walls: Bug 4449: AllowHoldPolicyOverride does not override all hold policies
20:08 hudsonbot * Ian Walls: Fixes bug 5232: Shelfname won't display on high-numbered lists
20:08 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #181: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/181/
20:08 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5142' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=261c8d3aafd4ed861cacbbcc139b59c12dee3417> / Further fixes for Bug 5142 - Untranslatable strings in tag review template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=470dc1d37c457b9919200c61e369a4fb6207dbc1> / Bug 5444 Fix misc/translate script for 'standard' Koha install <http://git.koha-com
20:03 briceSanc is it possible to use the amazon api in https ?
20:01 ibot :)
20:01 druthb ibot: botsnack M&Ms
20:01 Brooke worst chatbot evar. My jorb is safe.
20:00 ibot yes, druthb?
20:00 druthb ibot?
20:00 ibot trea: what?
20:00 trea ibot: I speak jive
19:59 ibot owen: sorry...
19:59 owen s'up, ibot?
19:59 ibot hola, druthb
19:59 druthb howdy
19:59 jcamins Howdy.
19:59 jcamins Howdy?
19:59 trea heh
19:59 ibot hey, trea
19:59 trea howdy
19:58 jcamins Hello.
19:58 * jcamins tries...
19:58 jcamins I didn't know that ibot greeted people.
19:58 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Adding 3.2.1 release to the history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1aa1eea166c86dda5fdbc158c2499d4bb014474> / Fixing formatting and links in the history document <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a71ffa0d3554faa08632fb748af1f5039c48921> / Fix some compile time errors reported in test suite <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc3dc
19:54 briceSanc is it to use the amazon api in https ?
19:53 ibot hi, Brooke
19:53 Brooke howdy
19:53 briceSanc hello
19:52 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5423 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Deleted Patrons are no longer saved in table deletedborrowers
19:52 cait bug 5423
19:52 cait missed 5423
19:51 cait yeah - I think you did :)
19:51 chris i think i might have already done it, but if not go for it cait
19:51 cait lol
19:51 * Brooke threaten's Cait's pull down with the wrath of doom.
19:51 cait I will add mine to your list, ok?
19:49 cait ah, the pull down was hiding from me
19:47 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4449: AllowHoldPolicyOverride does not override all hold policies <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e8b078651624cee7bc4f86e206cf36c8ace9c4d>
19:46 hudsonbot Starting build 181 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:42 chris this list will grow as i update bugs, but this is how i am going to track patches awaiting qa/sign off
19:42 chris http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&field0-0-0=cf_patch_status&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=Needs%20Signoff
19:37 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fixes bug 5232: Shelfname won't display on high-numbered lists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=31439fc51adc7e32a2eff6608bf91e08fcbf0ade>
19:34 * Brooke prolly has a "perfect" one a degree of separation away, but is holding out.
19:33 jcamins (to perfect)
19:33 * jcamins thinks his recipe may be getting close.
19:32 Brooke can vouch for the Chef's skill, but alas, not her character. *duck*
19:31 trea must try this recipe
19:29 Brooke http://lesttheybelost.blogspot.com/2010/11/cashew-nut-fudge.html
19:28 trea it even works
19:27 trea heh, we do have a stove in our breakroom
19:27 jcamins o.O trea has all the ingredients right at hand?
19:27 trea afk*
19:27 trea ark
19:27 trea awww now i want fudge
19:26 jcamins I brought some raspberry fudge in.
19:25 jcamins It's very good.
19:24 wizzyrea jcamins: must. make. that.
19:21 chris check the patch status
19:21 munin 04Bug 4839: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED, System pref for MARC field 008 authorities; additional logic for position 14
19:21 chris http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4839
19:20 Brooke brb
19:20 Brooke My favourite. NOMNOMNOMNOMNOM
19:20 druthb Brooke: Brookesnack cookie.
19:19 Brooke no botsnack for joo.
19:19 Brooke dude, munin, unfair assigning that to jcamins. I am *totally* more qualified for that commit.
19:16 cait hehe jcamins++ for the recipe :)
19:16 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5, ---, camins, ASSIGNED, Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors
19:16 jcamins cait++ # for progress on bug 5158
19:13 * Brooke has been rightfully accused of thinking too much.
19:13 jcamins Brooke: at least one of us does, today. :)
19:13 Brooke therefore I think?
19:12 jcamins I am.
19:08 cait jcamins: around?
19:08 cait mmmh
19:08 * druthb returns, full of Mongolian barbecue.
18:57 chris Which is non trivial
18:57 chris Ud have to get in their and rewrite the history
18:56 chris If it was there the history would have it
18:56 chris Hmm nope
18:54 chris_n but a bad merge could have caused that I think
18:53 chris_n I could not see that the content was ever there
18:53 chris Yep
18:52 chris_n which is really the problem afaict in this case
18:52 chris_n right
18:51 chris Having a known good point helps tho
18:49 chris_n which basically does a binary search through your history enabling you to locate a "bad" commit
18:48 chris_n there is also 'git bisect' as well
18:48 chris_n nengard: perhaps a branch off of a commit in the past where you think the info was in your repo might verify that
18:47 chris_n nengard: you can also do '$git checkout -b <committish>' to create a branch off of a commit
18:35 chris right bbl
18:35 chris thats why i use debian packages :)
18:34 jcamins That's why I have separate users.
18:33 chris stuff shouldnt break :)
18:33 chris if i resign and my users get removed from machines
18:33 chris the general rule of thumb tho is
18:33 chris but im perhaps more paranoid than you guys :)
18:32 chris or, puppet can do it
18:32 chris you can even get the local it person to do an apt-get upgrade for you
18:32 chris and the packages are so easy to build from any branch that was based on master
18:31 chris its bad form to put production code in my userspace
18:31 chris when im working on someone elses machine
18:31 brendan hopuceth
18:31 cait we always make a snapshot before we do an update
18:30 cait hm makes sense
18:30 chris i use dev install, when im doing dev
18:30 chris while you fix
18:30 chris well, there is always a danger when you git pull you get conflicts and the whole system is dead
18:30 cait because we are not using the packages ;)
18:30 cait is this the only problem?
18:29 cait ah
18:29 chris userspace = not right
18:29 chris and thus much less likely to get me stabbed by sysadmins
18:29 chris much safer, and less likely to break when someone removes a user
18:29 cait hi chris
18:29 chris we use packages
18:29 chris wizzyrea: i never do dev installs on production machines
18:20 cait nengard: which chapter is missing?
18:16 jcamins Oh, I bet it's only the first day of advent.
18:06 jcamins Aww. Only one of them works.
18:05 jcamins wizzyrea: nifty.
17:57 nengard holy crap how did i lose an entire section of the manual? I have gone back over 6 months of commits and I can't find when that content was actually in the manual - but I know it was ... what did I do???
17:49 wizzyrea http://perladvent.pm.org/2010/
17:49 wizzyrea heeheehee
17:41 cait hi wizzyrea and trea :)
17:40 trea hello cait
17:40 wizzyrea hey cait
17:40 cait hi #koha
17:25 * druthb is out to lunch...back dreckly.
17:24 wizzyrea ^ is what I think too
17:23 druthb yep. makes updating to later code easy, too, since it's still under git control. "git pull", then do updatedatabase, and start checkin' stuff.
17:23 wizzyrea I'm a question machine today ;)
17:22 wizzyrea you, specifically
17:22 wizzyrea one install, one box? Would you still suggest a dev install?
17:22 jcamins BRB
17:22 jcamins Lunch time.
17:22 wizzyrea but for a single library?
17:22 druthb It doesn't lend itself to installing multiple instances on one piece of hardware. dev installs in user space do.
17:21 wizzyrea so, druthb, a "professional" installing koha, would probably never do a standard install
17:18 wizzyrea ^.^
17:17 jcamins Yay! Our intern just asked me about getting involved with Koha!
17:17 * wizzyrea goes to try it druthb's way
17:16 druthb hi, nengard.
17:15 nengard hi #koha from VT (on lunch break)
17:15 druthb Once some things are installed, Koha can be run in user-space, easily enough, and that is, in fact, my preferred means of doing so. I don't do "standard" installs, hardly ever.
17:14 wizzyrea (and should be expanded!)
17:14 wizzyrea I was of the same camp as you: it's no biggie.
17:14 wizzyrea but
17:14 wizzyrea right, I think the complaint was perhaps against even telling people to do it with sudo, i'm not sure
17:13 druthb (there's a mild security thing--if you prevent root logins totally, that secures that account, and makes the system a small bit harder to attack. In which case, you have to have sudo.
17:12 druthb Some things, you really don't have a choice but to sudo it or run it as root. I prefer sudo, but that's a matter of style.
17:11 druthb I don't want *anything* that Koha or the OS doesn't need eating resource of any sort.
17:11 wizzyrea ok, well here's something else about that â€” I heard one single complaint that we shouldn't be telling people to run shell scripts as root. Discuss.
17:11 druthb exactly.
17:10 wizzyrea so you just install the OS, and let the packages file do apache and mysql
17:10 wizzyrea of course it is.
17:10 wizzyrea derr.
17:10 druthb It's in the packages.debian-lenny file included, so it gets installed with all that stuff.
17:10 wizzyrea < does it for just that reason ;)
17:10 druthb Haven't had to do any installs like that in a while..probably worth doing from time to time, to thoroughly test the process and instructions.
17:10 wizzyrea so you install mysql after the server so you don't get postgres too?
17:08 wizzyrea where it = build-essential
17:08 wizzyrea )
17:08 wizzyrea (and don't think about it
17:08 wizzyrea (because now I just install it on force of habit)
17:07 * wizzyrea will try again
17:07 wizzyrea hmm
17:07 druthb I haven't had that problem on lenny, which is what I installed most-recently.
17:07 wizzyrea I thought I ran up against one of the modules that wouldn't isntall without make (build-essential)
17:06 wizzyrea type of basic question
17:06 druthb I've done it with the standard-server install, plus SSH and sudo. Worked fine.
17:06 wizzyrea to answer the "why can't I sudo?"
17:06 jcamins wizzyrea: I just start with step 1.
17:06 wizzyrea rightâ€¦ I'm just thinking of the things that come *before* that
17:05 druthb Darn near everything is in the install packages file, so just follow the install instructions from there. I've never had to CPAN in more than one or two things.
17:05 wizzyrea i always like having locate, can't remember if you have to install it
17:05 wizzyrea sudo
17:05 wizzyrea yea
17:05 wizzyrea oh good one
17:05 druthb SSH, yeah, and sudo, usually.
17:04 druthb When I've set up "naked" servers, I just install Debian's standard server packages, but *not* database, webserver, etc... If you choose "Database", it install postgres, too...
17:04 wizzyrea i usually have to install ssh, but I might be doing it wrong.
17:04 wizzyrea you specifically*
17:03 wizzyrea (before starting the install instructions)
17:03 wizzyrea How do you prepare a system for koha?
17:03 wizzyrea druthb: any thoughts on a document of this nature? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Preparing_your_system
17:03 wizzyrea ^.^
17:02 druthb wizzyrea++
17:02 ibot well, graphicsmagick is avaliable in package form for the following Operating Systems: Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, 1.3.5 in Sid and Ubuntu Lucid. Regarding the update message, all Koha functions still work even if you only have Version 1.1.11.
17:02 wizzyrea graphicsmagick?
17:02 wizzyrea GraphicsMagick is avaliable in package form for the following Operating Systems: Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, 1.3.5 in Sid and Ubuntu Lucid. Regarding the update message, all Koha functions still work even if you only have Version 1.1.11.
17:00 munin jcamins: Karma for "ibot" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5.
17:00 jcamins @karma ibot
17:00 ibot wizzyrea: I forgot graphicsmagick
17:00 wizzyrea forget GraphicsMagick
17:00 jcamins ibot++
17:00 jcamins Me too.
16:59 wizzyrea i love that.
16:59 ibot i think manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
16:59 wizzyrea manual?
16:59 ibot typos are inevitable.
16:59 jcamins typos?
16:59 jcamins typos are inevitable.
16:58 jcamins Typos?
16:58 wizzyrea there
16:58 ibot GraphicsMagick is is Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, and 1.3.5 in Sid. or Version 1.3.5 in Ubuntu Lucid.
16:58 wizzyrea GraphicsMagick?
16:58 ibot okay, wizzyrea.
16:58 wizzyrea GraphicsMagick is also Version 1.3.5 in Ubuntu Lucid.
16:56 ibot fudge is very yummy!
16:56 jcamins fudge?
16:56 ibot GraphicsMagick is is Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, and 1.3.5 in Sid.
16:56 wizzyrea GraphicsMagick?
16:56 wizzyrea GraphicsMagick is is Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, and 1.3.5 in Sid.
16:56 ibot wizzyrea: I forgot graphicsmagic
16:56 wizzyrea ibot: forget GraphicsMagic
16:56 ibot it has been said that GraphicsMagic is Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, and 1.3.5 in Sid.
16:56 wizzyrea GraphicsMagic?
16:56 wizzyrea GraphicsMagic is Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, and 1.3.5 in Sid.
16:55 wizzyrea rofl
16:55 ibot well, dinner is a good keyword
16:55 wizzyrea dinner?
16:53 kf bbl!
16:53 kf dinner is a good keyword
16:37 magnus ok, dinnertime - thanks for helping folks!
16:35 magnus right
16:34 wizzyrea and 1.3.5 is (!) only on sid
16:33 magnus 1.1.11 is available for lenny and 1.3.12 for squeeze
16:33 magnus guess that is what is meant by this: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libgraphics-magick-perl
16:31 magnus guess that makes sense in a way...
16:28 wizzyrea (I had to look it up)
16:28 wizzyrea at least, that's what I culled form the conversation we had in may
16:28 wizzyrea and (I think) there is no package for lenny with that same version.
16:27 wizzyrea the package in squeeze is the newer version
16:27 wizzyrea it*
16:27 wizzyrea here's what I do know about ti
16:27 wizzyrea ok
16:27 wizzyrea hehe
16:27 magnus i suspect that too, but i thought i'd get to the bottom of it for once - oh well, some other day... ;-)
16:26 wizzyrea I dont' think the G:M thing is a big deal, I think everything still works with the lower version
16:26 wizzyrea you know what
16:25 pasajeros in the netherlands
16:24 pasajeros bye from the snow
16:24 pasajeros making ....
16:24 pasajeros :) thanks
16:24 wizzyrea not stupid :)
16:24 magnus Makefile.PL could probably be a bit clearer... ;-)
16:23 pasajeros stupid me
16:23 pasajeros thanks
16:23 pasajeros you're right !
16:22 pasajeros ok, let me try again .....
16:22 magnus it usually hints about missing modules at the end, but it should finish none the less
16:22 pasajeros perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log
16:21 jcamins pasajeros: IIRC, perl Makefile.PL doesn't report that it's done.
16:21 pasajeros it's actually not perl Makefile.PL, but the upgrade command
16:21 magnus hm, sure it quits?
16:21 pasajeros saying it needs it
16:21 magnus could it be related to barcodes too, or is that just GD?
16:20 pasajeros but perl Makefile.PL just quits
16:20 jcamins The message is a warning not an error.
16:20 jcamins pasajeros: just ignore it.
16:20 jcamins And wizzyrea types faster than I do.
16:20 pasajeros bu how can i remove it from the requirements?
16:20 jcamins pasajeros: I think it's just for patron pictures.
16:20 wizzyrea iirc
16:20 wizzyrea it's only if you want patron pictures
16:20 jcamins I don't use it on any of my servers.
16:20 jcamins GraphicsMagick isn't required.
16:19 jcamins Errr... here's why I couldn't remember.
16:19 jcamins Oh.
16:19 pasajeros magnus: cool, i'm not alone
16:19 pasajeros can i work around this?
16:18 magnus pasajeros: i'm struggling with the exact same thing, i think...
16:18 pasajeros I only can install 1.1.11
16:18 pasajeros apollo@olympia:~/source$
16:18 pasajeros Total modules reported: 1 * Module is missing or requires an upgrade.
16:18 pasajeros --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
16:18 pasajeros Graphics::Magick 0 * 1.3.5 No
16:18 pasajeros --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
16:18 pasajeros Module Name Current Version Required Version Module Required
16:18 pasajeros apollo@olympia:~/source$ ./koha_perl_deps.pl -u -m
16:17 pasajeros yeah you did lol
16:17 wizzyrea did I? (lol)
16:17 pasajeros in may you had this same problem
16:16 wizzyrea der you said that sorry
16:16 owen wizzyrea: What what is the different bewteen cleaning a staged batch and cleaning an imported batch?
16:16 wizzyrea pasajeros: what OS?
16:16 pasajeros debian lenny
16:16 wizzyrea what OS?
16:16 wizzyrea sorry passajeros, that was for owen
16:16 pasajeros 1.1.11 and 1.3.5
16:16 wizzyrea You will be presented with a confirmation message
16:16 wizzyrea To clean a batch, click the 'Clean' button to the right
16:16 pasajeros it's about the graphics::Magick
16:15 wizzyrea Visit the main screen of the Manage Staged MARC Records tool
16:15 wizzyrea To clean items out of the 'reservoir':
16:15 pasajeros wizzyrea: i read that
16:15 wizzyrea owen: http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/index.php?ch=x5804
16:15 pasajeros on debian lenny
16:15 pasajeros question regarding 3.2.0
16:15 pasajeros (from the netherlands)
16:14 pasajeros good afternoon #koha
16:13 owen "Cleaning" a batch which has only been staged removes them from the reservoir, yes?
16:12 owen What happens if you "clean" a batch of records which has been imported?
16:11 magnus wizzyrea: right you are - guess i'm really too tired to do this now...
16:06 wizzyrea u
16:06 wizzyrea looks like it might be for ubunt
16:06 magnus ah, that last one looks like it might do the trick - i'll try! thanks! ;-)
16:04 wizzyrea also this: http://www.mail-archive.com/koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org/msg00141.html
16:03 wizzyrea it was on the list
16:03 wizzyrea does that help?
16:03 wizzyrea Colin
16:03 wizzyrea magnus: The dependency is actually for libgraphics-magick-perl.
16:02 magnus thanks for trying jcamins ;-)
16:00 * jcamins would seem to be a bit distracted today... when I remember, I'll leave you a message with munin
15:49 jcamins magnus: I can't remember quite.
15:47 magnus jcamins: yeah, should be
15:46 jcamins magnus: That's... Lenny?
15:45 magnus jcamins: sorry, debian 5.0.6
15:45 wizzyrea (i might be doing it wrong) every time I've done a debian netinst I've had to install build-essential separately
15:44 jcamins There should be a note that a working Internet connection is needed.
15:44 * jcamins didn't even realize there was a way to avoid installing make, et. al.
15:44 jcamins I see.
15:44 wizzyrea basically, if you have a component that needs make to compile, you need build-essential
15:43 jcamins Ah.
15:43 wizzyrea make tools
15:43 jcamins What's build-essential?
15:43 wizzyrea I've only just started
15:43 jcamins Hm.
15:42 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Preparing_your_system I need assistance brainstorming what should go on this wiki page
15:42 jcamins magnus: OS?
15:42 jcamins I am.
15:42 wizzyrea jcamins: about?
15:26 magnus ugh, what's the thing with Graphics::Magick again? "./koha_perl_deps.pl -u -m" tells me i have 1.1.11 and need 1.3.5. "sudo apt-get install libgraphics-magick-perl" tells me i have the most recent version and "sudo cpan Graphics::Magick" tells me "Cannot install Graphics::Magick, don't know what it is"...
15:24 druthb :)
15:24 trea heheh
15:24 ibot somebody said wizzyrea was a ray of sunshine
15:24 kf wizzyrea?
15:22 ibot wizzyrea is a mom
15:22 druthb wizzyrea?
15:22 * druthb giggles.
15:22 ibot rumour has it trea is a ukulele aficionado
15:22 wizzyrea trea?
15:22 druthb hi, trea! :)
15:14 trea magnus! hello
15:14 magnus hiya trea
14:51 kf jcamins++ :)
14:47 jcamins kf: http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/index.php?ch=x8239#AEN8702
14:47 ibot okay, druthb.
14:47 druthb jcamins is also well-traveled and brilliant.
14:46 ibot jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook.
14:46 druthb ibot: jcamins?
14:46 jcamins Love that!
14:46 ibot documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
14:46 jcamins documentation?
14:44 kmkale bye all
14:31 kf documentation question: do we still have the table with the item subfields and explanations somewhere?
14:31 kf hi jcamins :)
14:30 jcamins Good morning, #koha
14:06 munin chris_n: The operation succeeded.
14:06 chris_n @later tell nengard you can use something like $git log -S'Batch modify' to look for commits containing the string 'Batch modify'
14:05 munin chris_n: The operation succeeded.
14:05 chris_n @later tell nengard but then it also looks like a later commit adds it again, but I never see a commit adding content under that heading
14:04 munin chris_n: The operation succeeded.
14:04 chris_n @later tell nengard it looks like the section heading was added in commit 4beb6c2f44f5bb0da838638d626b1e3c0eeb4fbd
13:39 sekjal hi, magnus!
13:39 magnus hiya sekjal & schuster
13:39 sekjal hi, kf!
13:38 kf hi sekjal
13:38 kf morning schuster
13:38 sekjal morning, schuster
13:38 schuster morning everyone...
13:37 munin schuster: The current temperature in Custer Creek Farms, Frisco, Texas is 1.7ï¿½C (7:30 AM CST on December 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -8.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 2.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Steady).
13:37 schuster @wunder 75035
13:37 schuster drat I missed the weather call -
13:23 jwagner Hi kmkale
13:23 kf hi kmkale
13:22 Nate Hi magnus and everyone
13:22 magnus hi kmkale, Nate & owen
13:22 kmkale hi owen magnus kf jwagner
13:21 * magnus was just out walking the dogs - followed in the steps of a moose and got flown over by an eagle
13:21 owen Always fun when Norway has nicer weather than here.
13:20 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0ï¿½C (1:20 PM CET on December 01, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -2.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -5.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
13:20 magnus @wunder bodo, norway
13:19 munin kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -3.0ï¿½C (2:00 PM CET on December 01, 2010). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -4.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.46 in 997 hPa (Falling).
13:19 kf @wunder Konstanz
13:19 owen Also: the snow.
13:18 munin owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 0.0ï¿½C (8:10 AM EST on December 01, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -2.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -5.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Rising).
13:18 owen @wunder 45701
13:18 owen Hi
13:18 druthb hi, owen. :)
13:18 munin druthb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 17.1ï¿½C (8:18 AM EST on December 01, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1000.9 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 11 am EST this morning...
13:18 druthb @wunder 20817
13:16 munin druthb: Quote #100: "chris: well, one of them is overhauling the whole templating system jcamins: Koha's other swiss army chainsaw" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, October 11, 2010)
13:16 druthb @quote random
13:13 druthb ooooo! thanks, magnus.
13:12 magnus passes virtual figs around for anyone who wants some
13:12 munin druthb: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009)
13:12 druthb @quote random
13:11 magnus hee hee
13:11 druthb lol
13:11 munin kf: Quote #69: "<schuster> Now if I could only figure out how to control those daemons... or at least the ones in my head..." (added by jwagner at 02:02 PM, March 17, 2010)
13:11 kf @quote random
13:10 munin kf: Quote #99: "slef: #kohaaaaargh for PTFS blog posts?" (added by wizzyrea at 07:10 PM, October 11, 2010)
13:10 kf @quote random
13:10 munin kf: Quote #30: "< pianohacker> Dealing with me can indeed be painful" (added by chris at 09:34 PM, September 02, 2009)
13:10 kf @quote random
13:05 druthb Hi, magnus! :)
13:05 jwagner Morning, magnus
13:05 magnus good morning druthb & jwagner
12:58 munin druthb: Quote #105: "* wizzyrea would like to note that you do *not* have to add good morning to all of your patches." (added by gmcharlt at 04:11 PM, November 24, 2010)
12:58 druthb @quote random
12:57 munin druthb: Quote #56: "* jdavidb makes sure no kitty carcasses are among the dead bugs." (added by gmcharlt at 01:34 PM, February 11, 2010)
12:57 druthb @quote random
12:57 druthb I was going to, but this weather...soggy cookies are no fun. Tomorrow, perhaps, if this rain will stop.
12:56 * jwagner asks if you brought some in
12:56 druthb jwagner: jwagnersnack cookie. :)
12:55 jwagner Harrumph
12:55 ibot :)
12:55 druthb ibot: botsnack cookie
12:55 munin jwagner: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 50 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 50.
12:55 jwagner @karma jwagner
12:54 * kmkale wishes #android-dev was as nice as #koha
12:53 * druthb is in a silly mood today; beware.
12:52 * druthb happy-dances some more.
12:52 druthb :D
12:52 kf better now? ;)
12:51 kf druthb++
12:51 kf druthb##
12:51 druthb oooooooo
12:51 munin druthb: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 44 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 43.
12:51 druthb @karma sekjal
12:50 munin druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 43 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 43.
12:50 druthb @karma druthb
12:50 * druthb is a geek.
12:50 * jwagner and new phones don't get along....
12:50 * druthb does a happy-dance.
12:49 jwagner druthb++
12:49 jwag_mtg OK, it's blackmail.
12:37 druthb hi, kmkale. :)
12:37 kmkale hey druthb :)
12:30 druthb :)
12:21 nengard okay got to head out ... but if anyone sees that and wants to message me to tell me how to find my mistake that would be great
12:13 nengard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=summary
12:13 nengard the section is 'batch item modification' if that helps -- the section header is still there just no content
12:12 nengard morning all - quick question before i head to training ... at some point I deleted a section of the manual ... how do i find out where I did that so I can grab the bits I lost from the manual?
12:08 munin kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0ï¿½C (5:10 PM IST on December 01, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 22.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
12:08 kmkale @weather Mumbai
09:54 ivanc kmkale: probably :)
09:54 ivanc kmkale: here some trick http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox%20consumes%20a%20lot%20of%20CPU%20resources?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=CPU+usage
09:53 kmkale wow but that will probably lead to a students march against me ;)
09:52 ivanc http://flashblock.mozdev.org/
09:52 ivanc kmkale: blocking flash will improve the performance
09:51 kmkale of firefox..
09:51 kmkale ivanc: any similar trick to reduce cpu usage?
09:50 ivanc kmkale: your welcome :)
09:40 kmkale ivanc: thanks. This will also help on our colleges thin clients :)
09:35 ivanc kmkale: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.sessionhistory.max_total_viewers
09:22 kmkale wondering why on my system firefox with 5 tabs is taking much more memory that the entire eclipse ide with a project running :(
09:11 kf but our libraries use rfid or get preprinted barcodes so I have no experience in printing them
09:10 kf I can understand that :)
09:06 bigbrovar I don't directly work for the library. just a sysadmin who comes in to help out.
09:05 bigbrovar oh ok. I was looking to generating one locally here. Its a very small library and very little cash so we try to dyi alot of things so we can have money for books :)
09:03 kf a lot of libraries order their barcodes from us
09:03 kf bigbrovar: I work at a library service provider - we have a speciel printer to produce barcodes for libraries
09:02 bigbrovar kf: how do u go about generating barcodes for your library items. I looking to having the items here barcoded but that area is a complete grey area for me.
08:51 kf firefox
08:51 kf you only need a system where you can run a browser, fireworks works great
08:51 kf bigbrovar: we use windows at our desktops - but the nice thing about koha is, that it doesn't really matter much
08:42 ivanc hiya magnus
08:42 magnus hiya ivanc
08:40 ivanc hi #koha
08:39 bigbrovar I what OS do u use for your desktop pc
08:39 bigbrovar lol
08:39 kf you can always ask your questions here - don't ask to ask :)
08:38 bigbrovar kf: is it ok to ask u a couple of questions about koha and general library management
08:37 kf hi bigbrovar
08:37 bigbrovar Bonjour #koha
08:36 bigbrovar hi kf> magnus>
08:34 kf hi magnus
08:31 magnus hiya kf
08:29 kf hi #koha
07:55 magnus hi Elwell
07:54 magnus hiya kmkale & #koha
07:54 kmkale hi magnus
07:47 cait bbl
07:09 cait hi hdl
06:50 kmkale hi hdl
06:49 hdl and all
06:49 hdl hi cait hi wizzyrea
06:49 hdl hi chris_n
05:49 chris_n howdy kmkale
05:49 cait hi kmkale
05:49 kmkale hi cait wizzyrea_ chris_n
05:41 cait hi chris_n
05:41 cait hope no snow
05:41 chris_n heya cait and wizzyrea_
05:41 cait haven't looked out of the windows yet
05:41 cait hi liz :)
05:40 wizzyrea_ what's new in germany?
05:40 wizzyrea_ good morning cait
05:37 cait good morning #koha
05:12 * Brooke waves at indradg
04:50 Brooke night
04:50 pianohack Have a good evening, #koha
04:32 Brooke what's shakin?
04:32 kmkale hi Brooke
04:21 Brooke morning!
04:21 kmkale good morning all
03:58 pianohack Hi brendan
03:58 brendan heya pianohack
03:41 Brooke though perhaps NOAA's radars are powered from George Mason turning in his grave ;)
03:40 * Brooke thinks someone has to inform NOAA that the great commonwealth of Virginia is not in the North, y'all.
03:39 chris_n and lots of energy to work with, so we shall see
03:39 chris_n pretty impressive embedded squall line building: http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/southeast.php
03:37 Brooke pfft, they threaten tornadoes and hurricanes so often it's lost all meaning ;)
03:36 chris_n nice and tornadic later :-(
03:36 Brooke oooh nice and warm.
03:36 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 19.4ï¿½C (10:36 PM EST on November 30, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 16.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1001.9 hPa (Steady).
03:36 chris_n @wunder 28334
03:27 Brooke (and steak. And salad. And other stuff :))
03:27 Brooke lawyers fed me coffee.
03:26 pianohack restless, huh? What's up?
03:25 * Brooke is restless.
03:25 pianohack How's it going?
03:25 pianohack 'allo
03:25 * Brooke waves to pianohack
03:24 Brooke night
03:23 jcamins Good night, #koha
03:08 wasabi yeah, i agree
03:06 chris always wins
03:06 chris the one with the people actually doing the work
03:06 chris but it will just be mambo vs joomla
03:06 chris http://hudson.koha-community.org/
03:06 chris yeah we use it lots
03:06 wasabi http://hudson-ci.org/
03:05 wasabi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_(software)
03:05 wasabi aah, i read moreâ€¦..
03:05 robin Rather than passive-agressive
03:05 robin In this case, it seems Oracle is being more agressive about it.
03:05 robin not mentioned, anyway. But still trademark related things.
03:03 wasabi s/dns/domain/
03:03 wasabi no DNS fight for hudson tho...?
03:02 wasabi a quick parse says 'yes' to me
03:02 chris robin: yeah that came through this morning, lots of similarities
03:00 wasabi yow, that sounds like some serious water :/
03:00 robin http://www.hudson-labs.org/content/whos-driving-thing <-- [resend in case the outage stopped it] sound familiar?
03:00 robin saw that. Not fun :/
02:59 bfleming Pipe burst for the fire suppression system so countless gallons of water under high pressure filled a few floors
02:59 robin did my link get though?
02:59 robin oh hey, I'm back
02:59 bfleming yes it does
02:58 Brooke that stinks
02:58 Brooke oh crud
02:57 bfleming For those of you that know Lee at the Butte Library here in Montana I thought I should pass on that they had a nasty flood last night and will be shut down completely for several weeks for cleanup and repairs
02:55 Brooke beware: the law school folks gave meh coffee.
02:53 chris network glitch
02:52 Brooke were we down?
02:52 Brooke hmph
02:43 ibot kansas is not completely flat
02:43 trea ibot kansas?
02:42 ibot trea: wish i knew
02:42 trea ibot kansas?
02:42 druthb :D
02:42 ibot wizzyrea is a ray of sunshine
02:42 druthb ibot: wizzyrea?
02:42 ibot trea is a fan of bot fights
02:42 druthb ibot: trea?
02:41 trea there we go
02:41 ibot :)
02:41 trea ibot botsnack cookie
02:41 trea botsnack ibot cookie
02:41 druthb :D
02:40 ibot rumour has it druthb is fond of cookies
02:40 trea ibot druthb?
02:34 * trea waves
02:34 chris hi trea
02:34 * druthb waves to trea.
02:22 chris and sun for the xmas party :)
02:22 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0ï¿½C (3:00 PM NZDT on December 01, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
02:22 chris @wunder wellington nz
01:41 chris heh
01:34 robin I do have an idea. Which is good, because it's my fault to start with.
01:33 jcamins Then I have no idea.
01:31 jcamins Hm.
01:31 robin no, one I'm making with my conversion script
01:31 jcamins New record?
01:30 robin I may have a bug...
01:30 robin _cP.R. Fry
01:30 robin 245 _aARRAY(0x13ce3b68)
00:08 wasabi http://codicesoftware.blogspot.com/2010/11/linus-on-branching.html