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23:51 chris back
23:41 jcamins Good night cait.
23:41 cait see you in 8 hours
23:41 cait ok friends - time to sleep for me :)
23:41 cait thx
23:40 * druthb hands cait a blanket.
23:40 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.3ï¿½C (12:40 AM CET on November 25, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -0.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 1.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady).
23:40 cait @wunder Konstanz
23:37 munin druthb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 5.1ï¿½C (6:33 PM EST on November 24, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -3.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 5.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady).
23:37 druthb @wunder 20852
23:37 * druthb shivers
23:36 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -0.1ï¿½C (5:36 PM CST on November 24, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -0.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 0.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.66 in 1004.3 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until midnight CST tonight...
23:36 moodaepo @wunder 56001
23:33 * chris ducks out for lunch
23:31 chris night magnus
23:31 magnus good night #koha!
23:26 druthb hmpf! :P
23:26 cait druthb. hmpf!
23:24 jcamins Very. :D
23:24 druthb cait++ #for lotsa reasons.
23:23 cait it was not my idea - but I thought perhaps it would make you happy
23:23 jcamins cait++
23:21 cait but you perhaps not even remember the discussion :)
23:21 * cait was reading back in the logs
23:21 cait cc0
23:21 chris its all commented out
23:20 * cfouts is afraid
23:20 cait ah, we reelased 2.6 million records in marc21 ;)
23:20 chris check out round line 116 in opac-search.pl
23:20 cait there was something I wanted to tell you...
23:20 cait hi jcamins
23:20 chris cfouts: wanna see some even older stuff?
23:16 jcamins_a Woohoo! RewriteRule party in Koha-land!
23:15 cfouts there's a reason the party follows us
23:14 cait sounds like fun :)
23:14 cait wow
23:14 cfouts cait: doing an archeological survey of Apache RewriteRules defined by default in Koha
23:13 cait I worried a lot about hte self check before we went into production - but it really works great :) I love to watch the students when I am at the library for training.
23:12 munin cait: The operation succeeded.
23:12 cait @later tell slef afaik our self check handles diacritics correctly - probably even hebrew titles
23:11 cait chris, cfouts: what are you playing?
23:10 cait slef: around?
23:09 chris heh
23:08 cfouts that's an old VMware instance, apparently been repurposed.
23:01 cfouts that's interesting
22:58 chris try hitting http://opac.liblime.com
22:58 chris heh that didnt work
22:57 chris it still sorta works
22:57 chris cfouts: http://opac.library.org.nz/bib/312
22:56 cait hi chris :)
22:56 chris hi cait
22:56 cait hi #koha
22:55 chris yup
22:55 cfouts I see. so it was an early RESTish sort of interface
22:54 chris it provided the start of a nicer interface to the opac
22:54 chris yes, theres no reason to have that rewrite in the intranet
22:54 cfouts so many mysteries
22:54 cfouts very much so
22:54 chris was before my time at liblime, and yours as well :)
22:53 chris http://opac.library.org.nz/isbn/123456
22:53 cfouts such that "defaults_items.booksellerid=&defaults_items.coded_location_qualifier=&defaults_items.price=10.00" becomes "defaults_items.defaults_items.defaults_items.defaults_items.price=10.00"
22:53 chris was something liblime did back in the day to allow people to craft urls like
22:52 cfouts it has the effect of issuing a redirect to another URL with contiguous value-less variables being concatenated
22:52 chris that first one is a regex
22:52 chris the rest of the rules are important too
22:50 cfouts in the httpd-conf?
22:50 cfouts RewriteRule (.+) $1?%1%2 [N,R,NE]
22:50 cfouts RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} (.*?)(?:[A-Za-z0-9_-]+)=&(.*)
22:50 cfouts can anyone who's not away preparing turkey explain the purpose of this:
22:50 chris heya
22:50 cfouts greetings, #koha
22:43 chris jo and I try to bribe people to heckle stephen abram
22:43 chris http://twitter.com/#!/jransom/status/7564820060569601
22:39 bfleming This is balmy by comparison
22:39 chris yeah, thats beyond stupid
22:39 bfleming nah, last night was -28c
22:38 chris thats stupid cold :)
22:38 bfleming so...very...cold
22:38 munin bfleming: The current temperature in Livingston, Montana is -15.0ï¿½C (3:06 PM MST on November 24, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -20.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -27.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 5 PM MST Thursday...
22:38 bfleming @wunder Livingston Montana
22:24 chris heh
22:23 Nate yeah for you guys!
22:19 chris boosting the local economy, its all good
22:19 chris hehe
22:19 Nate i had to carry tow libby back to the homestay!
22:19 russ nice
22:19 Nate pretty much :)
22:18 chris i think they went to every single vineyard
22:18 Nate yeah im def. gonna work on getting those up
22:18 Nate :)
22:17 * russ bets that you guys went places most of us kiwis havent even been yet
22:17 russ i second wizzyrea's call for flickr
22:16 russ not bad
22:16 Nate how goes it?
22:16 Nate Hey Russ!
22:15 russ heya nate
22:11 chris did you make it to all the places you wanted to go to?
22:07 chris hehe
22:06 Nate flickr will happen but i need to get them on the computer first!
22:06 Nate HA
22:04 chris cripes!
22:04 wizzyrea unless you're naked. Then you can keep them to yourself.
22:04 wizzyrea flickr or it didn't happen ;)
22:04 Nate 1600 NZ pics
22:03 chris the same :)
22:03 Nate how bout you?
22:03 chris yup
22:03 Nate great! pretty hectic though, but thats a good thing
22:02 chris Nate: hows things going?
21:53 Nate hiya chris!
21:53 chris heya Nate
21:46 jcamins Good night, #koha
21:44 slef chris: well done.
21:11 chris ok, and its fully back now
20:39 * owen sees an easy fix for the email false positive
20:36 owen Address, emailaddress, b-address
20:36 owen The trouble is it seems to always give a false positive on a few fields
20:36 owen I was just going over the code hoping to be able to add a feature that would highlight the changed fields!
20:35 ibot slef: huh?
20:35 slef ibot: ta
20:35 ibot the manual is, like, at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
20:35 slef where's the manual?
20:35 owen if($borrowerfield eq $newfield) { ... } else { $message .= uc($field)
20:35 slef unless it's in the manual already
20:35 slef heh, secret features. one for nengard.
20:35 chris i didnt know that either
20:35 slef owen: I certainly didn't. :)
20:34 ibot slef: i'm not following you...
20:34 slef ibot: you heard!
20:34 owen So, am I the only one who didn't know that in the "User Request for update of Record" the changed fields have an all-caps label?
20:34 ibot ebegin: what?
20:34 ebegin ibot doesn't know about logbot? ;)
20:34 slef slacker.
20:31 slef
20:31 slef trea: Transliteration is the practice of transcribing a word or text written in one writing system into another writing system or system of rules for such practice. From a linguistic point of view, transliteration is a mapping from one system of writing into another, word by word, or ideally letter by letter. Transliteration attempts to be exact, so that an informed reader should be... http://a.vu/w:Transliteration
20:31 gmcharlt slef: yep, allowing one to specify a character conversion would be more flexible; figuring out *what* encoding to use for a given device could be tricky
20:30 slef yes, we already require Text::Iconv
20:29 slef gmcharlt: must we strip? Do we already depend on iconv? (/me checks)
20:29 slef trea: so Ä‰ becomes cx, and things like that.
20:29 wizzyrea ^^ what he said
20:28 gmcharlt slef: an option to strip diacritics no doubt would help
20:28 trea slef:
20:28 trea can you elaborate?
20:27 slef wizzyrea: :-( Do you think koha needs to have an option to transliterate for SIP or something?
20:26 wizzyrea I bet we can access logs from the machines if that would help though, slef
20:25 wizzyrea as well as if there is a diacritic in any data that is passed back and forth (name, street, etc)
20:24 wizzyrea I can verify that actually, when given a card number with a + on the end, the sip connection hangs
20:23 trea but chances are good i'd wager the same behavior out of patron cards as well
20:23 slef trea: :-(
20:23 trea i don't recall it's behavior while scanning a patron card
20:22 trea slef: the library in basehor, ks i helped set up used 3M self issue machines; normally the client goes into a "maintenance mode" generic error screen when scanning diacriticals, specifically when scanning an item.
20:21 wizzyrea I think so, gimme a min
20:20 slef wizzyrea: can you give it a patron card whose owner has a non-ASCII name?
20:20 gmcharlt slef: IIRC Koha just passes any UTF-8 characters over as is
20:19 wizzyrea slef: I have a 3M emulator here
20:19 slef [off] I'm more concerned by the lack of attribution to the copyright holders IIRC.
20:18 chris [off] and something we should definitely fix, as we are slowly fixing the other messes that guy made
20:18 gmcharlt [off] not infringing, but a fork and one that doesn't currently properly give attribution to Georgia PINES, who paid for the development of the SIP library
20:17 slef [off] with its infinging(?) evergreen(?) code
20:16 slef gmcharlt: deep joy. So again, I get to watch tcpdump to see what the client tries? Any idea how Koha behaves?
20:16 gmcharlt and others that may insist on particular character encodings
20:16 gmcharlt various between devices that will accept anything that you throw at them (may not display diacritics correctly, though)
20:16 gmcharlt slef: it's all over the map
20:16 slef Does anyone know how self-issue machines implement diacriticals and other non-ASCII characters over SIP? It doesn't seem to be specified in the 3M protocols.
20:14 owen It's a wide-ranging change. Difficult to test :|
20:13 chris pushed up to branch new/bug3652
20:02 chris cool thanks
20:01 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, XSS vulnerabilities
20:01 owen chris: Staff client patch for Bug 3652 sent
19:58 jcamins [off] why no, my work definitely isn't more important than watching streaming netflix.
19:53 hudsonbot Katrin Fischer: Bug 5430: Add Control number as option to OPACSearchForTitleIn
19:53 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #174: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/174/
19:49 ibot rumour has it hudson is Koha's continuous integration server, http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/
19:49 gmcharlt hudson?
19:49 gmcharlt hudson is Koha's continuous integration server, http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/
19:49 ibot i heard hudson was your bestest bot-buddy ever or Koha's continuous integration server, http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/
19:49 gmcharlt hudson?
19:48 ibot okay, richard.
19:48 richard ibot: hudson is also Koha's continuous integration server, http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/
19:48 ibot i think hudson is your bestest bot-buddy ever
19:48 gmcharlt hudson?
19:48 gmcharlt not quite what I had in mind
19:48 gmcharlt hmm
19:48 ibot i think hudson is gmcharlt's bestest bot-buddy ever
19:48 jcamins hudson?
19:48 gmcharlt hudson is Koha's continuous integration server, http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/
19:47 ibot i heard hudson was your bestest bot-buddy ever
19:47 gmcharlt hudson?
19:47 gmcharlt hudson is my bestest bot-buddy ever
19:46 richard and chris_n
19:46 richard heya chris
19:46 chris_n hi richard
19:46 chris hi richard
19:46 richard hi
19:44 chris_n hudson?
19:42 ibot :)
19:42 wizzyrea ibot: botsnack grape nuts
19:40 * chris_n tosses ibot a cookie
19:40 ibot it has been said that jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook.
19:40 wizzyrea jcamins?
19:39 ibot rumour has it manual pdf is found at http://koha-community.org/wp-content/uploads/kohadocs/en/koha3-2manual-en.pdf
19:39 wizzyrea manual pdf?
19:37 nengard hehe
19:33 jcamins I love that!
19:33 ibot manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
19:33 jcamins manual?
19:32 nengard this is the first time i've had to juggle two versions
19:32 nengard i keep waiting for the time that I update the wrong edition of the manual ....
19:32 owen nengard++
19:31 nengard 100 commit emails down - 200 to go ... manual updates a plenty :)
19:30 hudsonbot Starting build 174 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:30 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5430: Add Control number as option to OPACSearchForTitleIn <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=703156daee740882c5ea6c7d6041969749a8a8dd>
19:25 chris owen: sweet, when you submit that, ill push it to the same branch
19:24 owen Looks like my work on the staff client doesn't have too many conflicts either
19:23 chris is the changes
19:23 chris http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=f1d4d4d15c5038f2c668a232b3a169c20df31966
19:22 chris feel free to test it out
19:22 jcamins That's a lot of changes.
19:22 chris http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new/bug3652
19:22 chris yes
19:22 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, XSS vulnerabilities
19:22 jcamins Is bug 3652 the one for escaping the templates?
19:22 jcamins Wow!
19:17 chris yay
19:17 chris and tiny ones too
19:17 slef I lose. Time to shoot the reviewer. Oh, that's me.
19:17 chris owen: only 2 conflicts
19:16 slef I just found the source of my confusion. Bug introduced by a patch that's only on our fork :-(((
19:16 slef oh. dear.
19:16 chris ill attempt to merge master in and see if it explodes
19:15 chris http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new/bug3652
19:14 chris oh, galen already did push it
19:14 chris if its really messy, ill push it up with the conflict markers, into its own branch, and ask you to look
19:14 slef Does git log -u not show all diffs for the file?
19:13 chris yeah, we'll see how much it conflicts
19:13 owen chris: the patch is pretty old now, good luck
19:12 slef OK, I don't get this. According to git, this code isn't buggy in master, but according to git log -u master, it was never removed by a commit. Help!
19:12 chris owen: gonna make a branch and apply your patch now, its all quiet at the news room
19:11 sekjal thank you all for being part of this community! you guys are one of the many things i have to be thankful for
19:09 sekjal anyway, time to get back to T-giving prep
19:09 sekjal maybe its that I don't usually take lunch breaks...
19:07 * druthb waves, and heads out to catch the bus.
19:06 sekjal what that says about me, I'm not sure
19:06 * gmcharlt blinks
19:06 sekjal slef: gladly. all this ISBN talk has made for the most entertaining lunch break in a while
19:04 wizzyrea afk, crying in beer.
19:04 * wizzyrea imagines an EULA on the selfchecks. Dies a little inside.
19:03 slef sekjal: ok... I've got to figure out what patch to cherrypick. Thanks.
19:03 wizzyrea jcamins: heh, we only "license" our library materials nowadays. </snark>
19:02 sekjal but the field size limit usually cuts the second number short
19:01 sekjal slef: it can, if multiple 020s are in the MARC
19:00 slef I'm getting confused here. Does biblioitems.isbn ever contain multiple |-delimited values?
18:58 sekjal jcamins: *actual* ownership is soooo last century
18:57 jcamins I find it incredibly frustrating that I can't find out what books are *actually* owned by the library when I search in these next generation catalogs.
18:56 jcamins gmcharlt: yeah.
18:56 gmcharlt jcamins: coming down with a case of biblioitis?
18:55 * jcamins coughs
18:55 slef hrm, blooming sausagemakers
18:54 gmcharlt leaving the stones rather unbloody
18:53 gmcharlt slef: RDFXML to MARCXL wouldn't be hard, but it looks like a lot of the information from the MARC records didn't make it to the RDF in the BL dataset
18:52 slef is there something to make a XSLT to MARCXML non-trivial?
18:52 jcamins "next generation discovery tools"
18:52 gmcharlt gotta protect those MARC record monopolies, I guess
18:51 * jcamins coughs
18:51 jcamins gmcharlt: it has been my observation that most library data is "released" in formats of doubtful value.
18:51 gmcharlt heh
18:51 slef oh well, maybe flaming them for NC did some good ;-)
18:50 gmcharlt slef: http://openbiblio.net/2010/11/17/jisc-openbibliography-british-library-data-release/
18:50 slef Too little time...
18:50 slef I missed that.
18:50 slef gmcharlt: they changed from the last release?
18:50 gmcharlt admittedly, it's churlish of me to ask "may I have some more?", but since very few library catalogs can do anything with RDF triples
18:49 gmcharlt it's essentially putting the records in the public domain, so commercial and non-commercial users can play alike
18:48 gmcharlt slef: how is CC0 non-commercial?
18:47 slef gmcharlt: I don't know. What's up with the BL releasing 3 million bib records under non-commercial licences?
18:47 jcamins gmcharlt: just following the lead of LC with id.loc.gov?
18:47 jcamins Which I guess wouldn't be so bad if biblio and biblioitem were combined, but it seems to me that queries would quickly get complicated otherwise.
18:46 gmcharlt slef: btw, what's up with the BL releasing 3 million bib records in RDF but not in a form that most libraries can use directly, i.e., MARC?
18:45 gmcharlt no guarantees about eloquence
18:45 gmcharlt slef: I'll put something in now
18:45 slef Shall I summarise the desire for biblio_attributes in that bug report, or would gmcharlt or someone like to put it more eloquently?
18:45 jcamins gmcharlt: yeah, but then you need to use a join table.
18:44 gmcharlt obviously publishers have long proven that they can't manage to assign ISBNs consistently
18:44 chris Crap bus has stopped
18:44 gmcharlt jcamins: well, no, but I don't think anybody was proposing to use them as a unique identifier
18:44 jcamins They're supposed to be, yet, but three books sitting on my shelf can assure you they aren't.
18:44 jcamins ISBNs are *not* unique.
18:44 chris I have a patch of theirs to test
18:43 jcamins gmcharlt: even with that, I think there would be problems.
18:43 chris Ch I think
18:43 slef (reporter of that bug)
18:43 slef Anyone know where Fridolyn SOMERS is from?
18:43 gmcharlt i.e., the code would never write to that table directly
18:43 chris Yeah
18:43 chris And out of syncness
18:43 gmcharlt jcamins: well, not necessarily, but to do it right, we'd have to ensure that biblio_attributes was maintained purely automatically
18:42 chris That would be my fear
18:42 jcamins I think a biblio_attributes table for standard numbers is just going to lead to chaos and confusion.
18:42 jcamins chris: I would agree.
18:41 chris Yep but I think maybe we don't store them outside the marc
18:41 gmcharlt so I'm not quite sure if/how/why the Amazon API has a problem with ISBN-13s
18:41 chris Not really
18:41 jcamins I agree, though, that ISBN's shouldn't be stored in an ugly lump in a text field.
18:41 gmcharlt most books published in the last few years don't have ISBN-10s
18:40 wizzyrea but, (and it's likely i'm not understanding correctly) abstracting the ISBN's might make it easier to work with amazon. Or not. I really don't know.
18:40 gmcharlt and I suspect it may have to be reopened
18:40 chris Yeah that's a sep issue
18:40 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4305 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, RESOLVED FIXED, Amazon book covers do not work with ISBN13
18:40 jwagner Bug 4305, I think. It's on my list.
18:39 wizzyrea probably
18:39 jcamins wizzyrea: didn't BibLibre have a fix for that?
18:39 wizzyrea the reason I ask that question is because you have to put the 10 digit ISBN in the marc field first for amazon covers to show
18:38 chris Not by just changing a field size, no not really wizzyrea
18:37 chris Right, so for acqui where we haven't already parsed the full record?
18:37 wizzyrea would this proposal also help the issue of multiple ISBN's for a single record (i.e. 10 vs 13 digit ISBN)
18:36 gmcharlt another purpose would be to enable SQL queries on bib records using something faster than MySQL's rlike operator
18:36 gmcharlt for the purpose of generating displays, main advantage would be to avoid a MARC/MARCXML parsing it, so a separate table to cache them could be speedy
18:35 gmcharlt good question
18:35 chris Do we need to store them outside tho?
18:34 gmcharlt a biblio_attributes
18:34 chris Yeah
18:34 jcamins gmcharlt++
18:34 gmcharlt or more generally
18:34 gmcharlt specifically, a biblioisbns
18:34 gmcharlt slef: IMO, if we need to store all ISBNs in some fashion outside of the MARC record, we should do it Right (tm) and create a separate table
18:33 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5377 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Database fields too small for multiple ISBN and ISSN
18:33 slef On a happier note, would anyone like to opine about bug 5377? I think Koha 3.0 also rejects multiple ISBNs on some MARC imports but I could be wrong.
18:30 wizzyrea :( so awful
18:29 chris I think this horrible tradgedy might mean I need to help out on stuff
18:29 chris More likely tomorrow
18:28 chris I might get a chance today
18:00 chris_n slef: I'll push fixes as chris pushes them to head
17:58 chris people testing the templates would be very handy
17:57 slef cool.
17:57 chris yep
17:57 slef chris: so we can get owen's patches into 3.2 and then get an equivalent version for 3.4 from the TT-conversion?
17:57 owen Glad to hear it :)
17:57 chris nope, none at all owen
17:57 owen I just wanted to make sure there wasn't an aspect of template-toolkit that would make my work invalid
17:56 owen chris: I've done work to do that, to set the default and to change everywhere we want to turn it off
17:55 slef When's phase 2?
17:54 chris phase 2, we can change things like the default
17:53 chris the first cut of template::toolkit conversion is provide an equivalent version
17:53 chris yes we can, but then you have to change everywhere you want to turn it off too
17:51 slef rather than rely on people remembering |h after everything
17:51 slef chris: can we set a default, though?
17:49 chris and |url etc
17:47 chris escape=HTML becomes | h in TT
17:46 chris any changes you make will carry over
17:45 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Template_toolkit_test
17:42 * chris_n thinks any security related bugs should be fixed regardless
17:41 slef And we might end up needing it for 3.4.
17:41 slef I suspect it will, as long as it happens. It's still good for 3.2.
17:40 owen I'm willing to do so, but I'm wondering if the template-toolkit change will make my work invalid for 3.4
17:39 owen I do have changes for the staff client, but the work is a few months old now. I'm sure it will have to be updated.
17:36 chris_n slef: I will push any security/exploit related patches
17:35 owen Actually I thought I'd sent fixes for the staff client too
17:35 slef with a note/link to where the patch is?
17:35 owen No, that patch will only cover the OPAC
17:35 slef Maybe that should be PATCH-Sent?
17:35 chris_n owen: will your patch finish the fix
17:35 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, XSS vulnerabilities
17:35 owen My patch for Bug 3652 has only been pushed to a testing branch, new/bug3652
17:34 chris_n is the current status of the bug correct?
17:33 chris_n so we have that in 3.2.x atm
17:33 owen http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1d4d4d15c5038f2c668a232b3a169c20df31966
17:33 * chris_n realizes that is already there :-P
17:32 owen That's just one small fix
17:32 slef chris_n: also, I don't understand why my git log didn't see that commit.
17:32 chris_n slef: if that is the correct fix, I'll push it now
17:32 slef chris_n: OK, that's confusing. I thought owen wrote the patch, not gcollum.
17:32 slef chris_n: if you're willing to consider it for release, I think I'm willing to test it.
17:31 chris_n http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=fad17c9da3f67edde212a179fbaeaf67efba2417
17:31 slef chris_n: I don't know and couldn't find it. owen mentioned something about it being on a testing branch.
17:30 chris_n slef: has that patch been tested/committed, etc?
17:30 slef chris_n: thanks.
17:11 * chris_n wonders how that got overlooked
17:11 chris_n slef: by all means, yes
16:54 kf bye :)
16:42 jcamins All our interns now know to turn white when I say "oh, hey, I just printed out X for you."
16:42 owen Okay, Koha interlude over. Back to non-Koha coding.
16:42 * jcamins didn't want it to be said that he didn't provide enough details. :)
16:41 nengard np
16:41 wizzyrea heh in a few I will (workin on something right this second)
16:41 nengard not i'll read the rest, but that guide was a biggie!!
16:41 jcamins nengard++
16:41 jcamins Woohoo!
16:41 nengard wizzyrea if you want to pull the 3.2 manual then jcamins can see it ;)
16:41 nengard jcamins cheat sheet added to the manual
16:37 kf owen++
16:36 kf it will be really handy for our catalogs around here
16:36 kf cool :)
16:36 owen Yup, worked perfectly
16:36 kf owen: so it did work for you?
16:36 ibot i think slef is an avid cyclist
16:36 wizzyrea slef?
16:35 ibot slef is, like, an encyclopedia of FOSS knowledge
16:35 wizzyrea slef?
16:35 ibot thanks kf :)
16:35 kf ibot: botsnack chocolate chip cookie
16:35 kf nah, just checking what he knows about you :)
16:34 * wizzyrea giggles
16:34 slef kf: erm, no
16:34 ibot daddy is chris
16:34 druthb ibot: daddy?
16:34 kf slef?
16:34 wizzyrea who's your daddy?
16:33 slef Who's your daddy?
16:33 ibot the manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
16:33 slef Where's the manual?
16:32 ibot wizzyrea is probably a ray of sunshine.
16:32 druthb wizzyrea?
16:32 slef Updated http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/RFCs_for_Koha_3.4#Template_Toolkit
16:30 ibot it has been said that ratbag is an affectionate term, often bandied about in a playful manner. It's best not to get offended.
16:30 wizzyrea ratbag?
16:28 munin slef: Error: "ratbag." is not a valid command.
16:28 slef munin: ratbag.
16:28 munin slef: The operation succeeded.
16:28 slef @later tell chris_n would you consider fixing bug 3652 in 3.2.x?
16:27 munin slef: Error: "@later" is not a valid command.
16:27 slef munin: @later tell chris_n would you consider fixing bug 3652 in 3.2.x?
16:27 owen slef: Fine with me.
16:27 kf owen: and this as search link: http://swb.bsz-bw.de/DB=2.1/PPNSET?PPN={CONTROLNUMBER}
16:27 slef owen: OK if I add it to the 3.4 Roadmap as a must-have if the switch to template toolkit doesn't happen?
16:26 kf owen: enter this as control number in one record for testing: 316187453
16:26 slef owen: do you know.... heh, snap!
16:26 owen slef: I wonder if the switch to template toolkit makes it moot
16:25 owen slef: No. It went into a testing branch and that was the last I heard of it
16:25 kf owen: I can give you an example, give me a second
16:25 kf I am quite sure you can build a link for worldcat, we will use it for our union catalog and for academic libraries that participate in our union catalog and have those numbers, like the university of heidelberg
16:25 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, XSS vulnerabilities
16:25 slef owen: was bug 3652 default escape => "HTML" patch ever applied?
16:24 jwagner wizzyrea, thanks -- that's it!
16:24 kf it depends where your records are from
16:23 owen kf: What resource uses control number as the search point?
16:23 munin 04Bug 5391: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, can't add multiples to batch
16:23 wizzyrea jwagner, are you thinking of http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5391
16:19 kf owen++ thx
16:18 jwagner I know I remember seeing a bug about searching by date in the label creator, where if you click select all in the results list it only adds the first title to the batch. I can't find the bugzilla report, though. Anyone remember this one, and whether it's fixed?
16:17 jwagner chris_n, online?
16:12 wizzyrea good morning, jcamins
16:11 jcamins Good morning, wizzyrea.
16:11 wizzyrea >.< lol
16:10 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #105 added.
16:10 gmcharlt @quote add * wizzyrea would like to note that you do *not* have to add "good morning" to all of your patches.
16:10 * wizzyrea would like to note that you do *not* have to add "good morning" to all of your patches.
16:10 gmcharlt jcamins++
16:10 wizzyrea lol o no
16:09 * jcamins goes to add "good morning" to all his patches.
16:09 wizzyrea and good morning.
16:09 wizzyrea and the content (all content) of the body of the message
16:08 wizzyrea a SUBJECT header
16:08 wizzyrea you have to have the FROM header at the top
16:08 wizzyrea what I learned about patches from email
16:07 jcamins Does anyone else use 583 Action Note?
16:06 owen I'll send it to you as an attachment
16:06 kf I think it will miss the header - telling it that it was you who wrote it
16:05 kf we are talking about ms outlook here...
16:04 owen I think if you save the email as a text file you can apply it just like that
16:04 kf I am not sure how to get the patch out of your mail correctly
16:03 kf can you perhaps attach for patch to the bug?
16:03 kf yeah, but they should have shown up :( will check my command
16:03 owen It was only one template file missing the state, but all those scripts use that same include
16:02 kf owen: oh scary, I used a grep to find all files - wonder how I missed all those!
16:01 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5430 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add Control number as option to OPACSearchForTitleIn
16:01 kf I have another one that needs sign-off: bug 5430
16:00 kf owen: great - thank you!
15:57 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5422 enhancement, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Separate state field for patron's adresses
15:57 owen kf: Sent you a patch with some additional changes for Bug 5422
15:54 hdl kf: thanks
15:52 jcamins He doesn't know how he didn't go mad, now that he's experiencing it all over again. ;)
15:52 * jcamins remembers when all web browsers had frame rates.
15:51 jcamins Especially for sites that have just migrated from a non-marc system.
15:50 jcamins nengard: I'm not surprised.
15:50 jcamins Lesson for posterity: if you have run a script which opens and saves every record, it might not be a good idea to use the log viewer over that time period.
15:50 nengard even though it's not koha specific - it is something i get asked for
15:50 kf hdl: I updated the link
15:50 nengard gonna find a way to get that into the manual
15:49 nengard jcamins i like the cataloging sheet!!
15:43 kf http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Public_Git_Repositories
15:43 kf public repo site on the iwki
15:43 hdl kf: where did you get that link from ?
15:42 hdl No cgi-bin/gitweb
15:42 hdl http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=summary
15:41 kf hdl: I can't reach http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha;a=summary - is it broken?
15:36 nengard k - i think i'm done with reports for today
15:27 kf jcamins++
15:26 jcamins Well, feel free to translate any useful parts of the ANS's documentation into German.
15:23 * jcamins hates MS Word
15:23 kf doing that in German for my coworkers right now
15:23 jcamins The problem is that I had to write it in Microsoft Word, and then I didn't really have any way to get it out other than copy-and-paste.
15:23 kf :)
15:23 kf ah
15:23 jcamins Painfully.
15:22 jcamins I documented how we do things, and all our configuration.
15:22 jcamins So now nengard can take what's useful for the main manual.
15:22 kf ?
15:22 jcamins It's the ANS site manual.
15:22 jcamins kf: Koha.
15:22 owen Hopefully baking
15:22 jcamins I know that nothing makes a person, especially a documentation manager, thankful like the thought "at least I didn't have to write *this*."
15:21 kf jcamins: what is the topic? :)
15:18 nengard woo hoo!! :)
15:17 jcamins nengard: 30-something pages of documentation coming your way. Happy Thanksgiving!
15:17 kf that would be great
15:13 owen Yes, I'll file separate bugs for those two ideas
15:13 kf we don't have that in addresses here
15:13 kf I think filing bugs with some information how it has to work would be good
15:12 kf we don't use that, have not thougth about it
15:12 kf oh
15:12 owen The cities table should be updated to offer a state field as well
15:12 kf no problem
15:12 owen Oh, I see something else to put on the list (sorry)
15:10 kf and feel free to make the display better - I was not sure how it has to look like
15:10 owen Yeah, I agree. It doesn't hold up the usefulness of your changes
15:09 kf I think it would be, but better make a separate patch for it
15:09 kf file a bug for it ;)
15:09 owen kf: I wonder if it would be logical to apply the same change to the structure of the branches table?
15:09 owen kf: Good news, nothing broke! ;)
15:03 kf thanks for testing :)
15:02 owen Yes, thanks!
15:00 kf hope that makes sense :)
14:59 kf git checkout -b <your branch name> <your name for it>/<name of branch at public repo>
14:59 kf git fetch <your name for it>
14:58 kf git remote add <your name for it> <url>
14:56 kf jcamins: chris++ for teaching me at kohacon :)
14:56 kf the repo is
14:56 jcamins kf++ # for git awesomeness
14:56 owen Is that on the wiki? If not, tell me and I'll add it
14:55 kf oh, I can tell you :)
14:55 owen Yeah, only now I have to remember how to check out from someone else's repo :)
14:55 kf owen: is that ok? a branch? I can create patches later
14:54 jcamins Apparently they came to a truce.
14:54 ibot yes, jcamins?
14:54 jcamins ibot?
14:53 kf and ignore the typo... address
14:53 kf ah, for a moment I thought munin lost the bot fight
14:53 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5422 enhancement, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Separate state field for patron's adresses
14:53 kf bug 5422
14:53 kf BugÂ 5422
14:52 kf owen: looking it up
14:51 owen kf, what's the bug number of your state patch?
14:51 jcamins kf: it's an illusion.
14:36 kf I have a recipe from you - it looked good to me
14:35 jcamins That makes one of us. ;)
14:35 kf yeah, I understood ;)
14:35 kf lol
14:34 jcamins Recipes.
14:34 jcamins Argh!
14:34 jcamins Nor do I write good addresses.
14:34 kf question: someone willing and able to sign-off on my patch for adding state to all 3 addresses?
14:33 jcamins I don't have a camera.
14:33 jcamins kf: I tried the blogging thing once.
14:33 kf oh
14:32 kf or an international delivery service ;)
14:32 kf perhaps you should start a photo blog...
14:32 jcamins kf: yeah, I was very happy with the results.
14:31 kf jcamins: yummy
14:31 druthb :D
14:31 * jwagner invites jcamins, kf, and druthb over to bake for me
14:31 jcamins I would like to bake those wonderful pain au chocolat. :)
14:30 jcamins Hm.
14:30 kf jcamins: what would you like to bake?
14:29 magnus well, i wouldn't mind i guess, i'm just not doing it at the moment
14:28 jcamins magnus: you don't want to bake?
14:27 magnus nah...
14:26 magnus g'day jcamins
14:26 * jcamins wishes he were baking
14:26 jcamins Baking?
14:26 jcamins Good morning, #koha
14:22 schuster happy Gobble gobble!
14:18 * magnus waves back to druthb
14:18 * druthb waves to magnus
14:15 * kf likes baking
14:10 * owen has some potato-peeling to do tonight
14:09 * jwagner isn't baking, just hiding at home from all the traffic. Getting home yesterday was bad enough....
14:07 nengard but i'll be buying that - not baking
14:07 nengard it's momma's bday tomorrow
14:07 nengard I do have to get a bday cake today
14:06 nengard :)
14:06 gmcharlt nengard++ # that's the best way to do it
14:05 hdl hehe owen there is a life out there.
14:05 * druthb loves to bake! :)
14:05 hdl micro
14:05 hdl wave
14:05 hdl bake
14:03 * nengard goes to other people's houses - they bake for her
14:02 * nengard doesn't bake
13:57 * druthb waves to owen and schuster.
13:57 * owen thinks all the Americans must be off baking
13:10 kf have to test a bit more, at the moment I am anonymizing the database
13:09 kf straigt forward :)
13:09 kf 3.01.61
13:08 hdl kf: which version are you upgraing from ?
13:04 gmcharlt cool
13:03 kf we did a test upgrade of our production server today - worked great, no mysql errors, no problems so far :)
13:03 kf gmcharlt++
13:00 hdl Happy Thanksgiving american folks
13:00 gmcharlt hi hdl
13:00 hdl hi gmcharlt
12:58 gmcharlt here's the to Thanksgiving cease-fire ;)
12:45 jwagner It's harder to make someone miserable from a distance and I'm working from home today :-)
12:45 druthb groooooovy.
12:45 * jwagner will give druthb a break for today. Will return to the effort after Thanksgiving.
12:38 * druthb watches jwagner closely, for signs of attempts to make her miserable. They won't succeed, of course.
12:18 magnus lunchtime here - bbl
12:14 magnus s/lucky/lucky you/
12:14 magnus lucky - a full day ahead... ;-)
12:13 tcohen its early 9 in the morning here : D
12:13 tcohen just got my morning coffee
12:13 tcohen hi magnus
12:12 magnus hiya tcohen
12:08 nengard hiya magnus
12:08 magnus kia ora nengard
10:58 magnus np bigbrovar :-)
10:57 bigbrovar magnus: thanks too. You guys rock
10:57 kf no problem bigbrovar - glad it helped
10:56 bigbrovar kf: thanks once again for your help yesterday.
10:21 kf we have grey sky again
10:07 magnus and this is what it actually looked like this morning: http://www.flickr.com/photos/enger/5203884872/ ;-)
10:06 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -7.0ï¿½C (10:50 AM CET on November 24, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -13.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -16.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
10:06 magnus @wunder bodo, norway
09:58 munin braedon|h: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 15.0ï¿½C (10:00 PM NZDT on November 24, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
09:58 braedon|h @wunder auckland
09:45 magnus :-)
09:45 kf magnus: no :)
09:43 magnus kf: ah, i thought i scared you off...
09:41 kf closed wrong window :(
09:02 magnus ata marie, #koha
08:50 ivanc hi #koha
08:40 hdl much of its code still relies on smolder tests. Is it still OK to use that ?
08:39 hdl chris Is there a How To write db_dependent tests ?
08:39 hdl I cannot get to configuration pages. Is it because of permissions ?
08:38 hdl I am looking in Hudson to try and use that for testing search.
08:37 munin hdl: chris was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 8 minutes, and 1 second ago: <chris> yup
08:37 hdl @seen chris
08:37 hdl so there are two bots now...
08:37 hdl hi kf
08:37 ibot bonjour, bfleming
08:37 bfleming hello
08:36 kf hi #koha
08:05 munin bfleming: The current temperature in Livingston, Montana is -22.0ï¿½C (12:53 AM MST on November 24, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -27.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -34.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 5 PM MST Wednesday...
08:05 bfleming @wunder Livingston Montana
07:52 hdl re
07:35 munin Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 23.0ï¿½C (11:30 AM IST on November 24, 2010). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 18.0ï¿½C.
07:35 Amit @wunder Bangalore
07:35 munin Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 21.0ï¿½C (11:30 AM IST on November 24, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 14.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1014 hPa.
07:35 Amit @wunder Dehradun
07:35 munin Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 20.0ï¿½C (12:30 PM IST on November 24, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
07:35 Amit @wunder New Delhi
07:33 cait bye :)
07:33 cait ok, time to stop playing and go to work
07:33 ibot cait?
07:33 cait ibot?
07:33 cait ibot is cool :)
07:33 ibot freaking rules
07:32 cait git?
07:32 ibot chris is awake to early
07:32 cait chris?
07:29 chris yup
07:27 cait not so far away
07:26 cait ah :)
07:20 chris http://she.geek.nz/
07:19 chris she lives in switzerland
07:18 chris thats where my friend penny is going today
07:18 cait hi chris
07:18 cait fribourg?
07:16 munin chris: The current temperature in Plaffeien-Oberschrot, Switzerland is -2.0ï¿½C (8:00 AM CET on November 24, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -5.0ï¿½C. Pressure: (Rising).
07:16 chris @wunder fribourg
07:16 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0ï¿½C (8:00 PM NZDT on November 24, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
07:16 chris @wunder wellington nz
07:16 munin chris: Error: No such location could be found.
07:16 chris @wunder wellingtn nz
07:14 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 2.0ï¿½C (8:00 AM CET on November 24, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 0.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
07:14 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:14 munin cait: Error: No such location could be found.
07:14 cait @wunder Konstnaz
07:02 munin brendan_l: The current temperature in westside ukiah, Ukiah, California is -0.4ï¿½C (10:59 PM PST on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -10.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 0.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.23 in 989.7 hPa (Steady).
07:02 brendan_l @wunder ukiah, ca
05:57 cait hi hdl
05:56 cait hi brendan
05:53 hdl brendan_l: thanks
05:43 brendan_l hdl++ #just cause I saw some awesome pics of you from KohaCon
05:41 hdl hi brendan_l
05:40 brendan_l heya hdl
05:40 brendan_l heya cait
05:09 cait hi #koha
04:55 * bigbrovar time to catch some sleep before day break
04:54 bigbrovar brendan_l: most likely might have to wait for the next stable release upgrade my current instance then
04:51 bigbrovar I just downloaded the latest stable release.
04:51 bigbrovar nope
04:49 brendan_l not sure are you using git?
04:48 bigbrovar brendan_l: ahh so I was not doing it wrong then. I heard there is a patch somewhere, How can I get the patch and can it be applied on a working koha instance or I have to compile it from scratch again?
04:45 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4481 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Search's Limit to Available filters out many available items
04:45 brendan_l bug 4481 maybe of some help
04:39 bigbrovar Hi guys I was having some issues getting refined search by libraries to work. turns out I needed 952$a and b in tags once I added that to my marc searching by libraries started working. Now I am trying to get refine search by availability to work. I already have 952$7 set in my marc .. what other holding data field do I need to allow people refine their search to available items
04:23 brendan_l ah finally have time to catch up on thd emails :)
04:20 kmkale bbl
04:20 kmkale so sad :(
04:08 chris_n :-(
04:08 bigbrovar chris: gmcharlt: He who never sleeps watches over them, no matter where there are now.
04:03 gmcharlt :(
04:03 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pike-river-mine-explosion/4381393/Second-mine-blast-no-survivors
04:02 chris :(
03:56 kmkale its a miserable day here unseasonable clouds and rains. But I saw a *big* full rainbow to start the day off well :)
03:55 kmkale hi Amit
03:55 Amit heya kmkale
03:52 kmkale hi all
03:25 bfleming why is $base_url set to be __FILE__ ...?
03:25 bfleming ok, so quick question about members-search.pl
03:15 yhager heh, it's cold here :)
03:15 munin yhager: The current temperature in Castlegar, British Columbia is -13.0ï¿½C (5:00 PM PST on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -15.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
03:15 yhager @wunder v0g2c0
03:14 yhager sorry, message. Couldn't find any mention to anything similar in bugzilla
03:14 yhager Does this error merrage say something to anyone (from koha 3.2) addbiblio.pl: Can't call method "title" without a package or object reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl line 896.
03:13 Amit heya brendan_l
03:13 brendan_l heya amit
03:12 Amit heya chris
02:55 munin brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 11.9ï¿½C (6:55 PM PST on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 9.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Steady). Freeze watch in effect from late Wednesday night through Thursday morning...
02:55 brendan_l @wunder 93117
02:30 jcamins I ran git rebase --abort twice in a row, then tried again, and it fixed it.
02:30 jcamins And I have no idea what changed.
02:29 jcamins Okay, all fixed.
02:25 * chris_n has to run, bbl
02:24 jcamins I'm looking at the patch on master, and I'm looking at the patch on my server, and sure enough, they have different headers.
02:24 jcamins That's really weird.
02:22 jcamins Yeah, I hadn't rebased this machine in a while.
02:21 chris_n thats a while back
02:21 chris_n 95cb1c3
02:21 * jcamins always pictures the Wizard of Oz
02:20 brendan_l heh - always funny hearing chris say - there goes my house :)
02:19 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5116 minor, P5, ---, ricmarques, NEW, Duplicate and missing entries in "apt-get-debian-lenny.sh"
02:19 jcamins It's the patch for Bug 5116.
02:18 chris rebasing changes commit hashes
02:18 jcamins Hm.
02:18 * chris_n can't seem to find a commit by that number in master
02:16 jcamins chris_n: did I send you the wrong thing?
02:16 chris_n ich
02:16 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 17.2ï¿½C (9:13 PM EST on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 2.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Rising).
02:16 chris_n @wunder 28334
02:16 brendan_l a white thanksgiving in seattle
02:16 jcamins And that is hot.
02:16 munin jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 14.9ï¿½C (9:11 PM EST on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 7.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising).
02:16 jcamins @wunder 11105
02:15 brendan_l man that's cold here
02:15 jcamins chris_n: 88d95d7885614fd8c5fa50e478cc9a28 .git/rebase-apply/0076
02:15 munin brendan_l: The current temperature in westside ukiah, Ukiah, California is 2.0ï¿½C (6:12 PM PST on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: -13.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 2.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.17 in 987.7 hPa (Rising).
02:15 brendan_l @wunder ukiah, ca
02:15 brendan_l ah
02:15 gmcharlt brendan_l: no, just marveling at the unexpected snowstorm there
02:15 chris_n jcamins: the md5 hash
02:14 jcamins Hello, brendan_l.
02:14 brendan_l gmcharlt - you in seatlle?
02:14 jcamins Is that the first line?
02:14 brendan_l heya chris_n hey jcamins
02:14 jcamins Ummm...
02:13 jcamins It is...
02:13 chris_n what is the commit id of the patch?
02:12 chris_n strange indeed
02:12 jcamins chris_n: yeah.
02:12 chris_n deleting one of two content-type lines results in that error?
01:55 jcamins_a Editing the patch to remove the duplicate line results in an error message that the patch doesn't have an e-mail address.
01:54 * jcamins_a curses the broken patch.
01:21 munin gmcharlt: The current temperature in Herrera Environmental Consultants, Seattle, Washington is -3.3ï¿½C (5:21 PM PST on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -14.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -3.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady).
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