Time Nick Message 00:45 cait is there a place where we collect unused template files? 00:45 cait for possible deletion? 00:59 cait *sighs* 01:01 cait oh my 01:07 jcamins Lots of unused templates? 01:07 jcamins You oculd file a bug report. 01:07 jcamins Like the one for database agnosticism. 01:11 cait no 01:12 cait deleted borrowers don't end up in deletedborrowers... because the structure of both tables is different 01:12 cait since june 01:12 chris_n ouch 01:12 chris_n that's bad 01:12 cait privacy is missing 01:12 cait I tested deleting borrowers with my new fields - and it didn't work 01:12 cait I compared both tables 01:13 cait also: cardnumber - varchar(16) vs. varchar(9) 01:13 jcamins Oh dear. 01:13 jcamins That's very bad. 01:13 cait correct me if I am wrong 01:13 cait perhaps someone else can look at his installation 01:14 cait chris_n: what's the right procedure for database update? change databasenumber in kohaversion and update to XXX? 01:15 chris_n I think just set the version number to XXX in updatedatabase.pl 01:16 chris_n chris will fixup kohaversion.pl and fix the XXX when he does the push 01:17 cait ok 01:17 cait do you have time to look at my work for the new fields? 01:18 cait I am nto sure the addresses look right - or be presented differently 01:18 cait should be presented 01:18 cait displayed... whatever 01:21 cait anyway, will push it to my public repo later 01:22 cait chris_n: I am going to mark the deletedborrowers bug as blocker - you loose data 01:22 chris_n yup, I would 01:22 chris_n cait: I'll take a look at your work on monday 01:23 cait ok :) 01:23 chris_n drop me an email to remind me if you don't mind 01:23 cait I will add a link to the repo to the bug 01:23 chris_n ahh 01:23 chris_n ok 01:23 chris_n put me on the cc list for the bug then 01:23 cait ok 01:25 cait and thank you :) 01:37 chris_n g'night all 01:39 cait good night chris_n 01:54 gmcharlt chris_n++ 02:03 cait hi gmcharlt 02:14 * cait waves to liz 02:14 wizzyrea_ hey cait 02:14 wizzyrea_ chris_n: 02:14 wizzyrea_ chris_n++ 02:14 wizzyrea_ was what i meant 02:14 cait @karma chris_N 02:14 munin cait: Karma for "chris_N" has been increased 136 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 136. 02:15 cait ok, munin is not case-sensitive :) 02:22 wizzyrea_ i have this weird desire to play beatles rock band 02:23 jcamins wizzyrea_: go for it. 02:23 wizzyrea_ but I don't have anyone else to play with 02:26 cait I would play with you 02:26 * wizzyrea_ ponders a way to do rock band over the internet 02:26 * cait is a big fan of singstar 02:26 wizzyrea_ :) 02:26 cait have never tried rock band, but I am sure it's fun :) 02:27 * jcamins has never tried either 02:27 wizzyrea_ it's much like singstar I think. but with guitar 02:27 cait can I sing while playing the guitar? 02:27 wizzyrea_ you can try 02:27 wizzyrea_ it's pretty tough tho 02:27 wizzyrea_ imo 02:27 wizzyrea_ like walking and chewing gum 02:28 cait hehe 02:28 jcamins wizzyrea_: it's hard to walk while chewing gum? 02:28 wizzyrea_ depends on if you're an uncoordinated schlub like me 02:28 cait gna, can't send my patch because mail provider does maintenance? 02:29 jcamins wizzyrea_: I'm sure you're not an uncoordinated schlub. :) 02:29 cait unfair 02:29 wizzyrea_ urg 02:29 wizzyrea_ http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OmMalik/~3/YELVK9LGupI/ 02:29 wizzyrea_ heh 02:36 * cait1 should stop looking at koha code 02:36 jcamins Yes, you should. 02:36 jcamins And go to sleep. 02:36 jcamins I'm going to do that soon, I think. 02:37 cait1 items and deleteditems have a different number of columns 02:38 cait1 hm, perhaps this is ok 02:45 cait1 yep it works 02:45 cait1 time to sleep :) 04:02 prawesh hi 04:04 prawesh had installed koha 3.00.05.003 and i am facing few problems regarding fine 04:04 prawesh do koha calculate fine automatically?? 04:23 prawesh can anyone help me?? 04:28 wizzyrea_ you probably need to set up your fines cronjob. You can find it in misc/cronjobs/fines.pl 04:28 wizzyrea_ there's also a sample crontab in there. 04:30 prawesh @wizzyrea_ thank you 04:30 munin prawesh: Error: "wizzyrea_" is not a valid command. 04:31 wizzyrea_ you're very welcome :) 04:32 prawesh @wizzyrea can i ask u other stuff too?? 04:32 munin prawesh: Error: "wizzyrea" is not a valid command. 04:32 wizzyrea_ you can ask, sure. The smart kids are gone for the weekend but I'll try to answer. 04:33 prawesh :0 04:37 prawesh If the fine rules are set in different libraries - one in default and another in cutom - do the rules in custom library overrides the ones in default? 04:38 wizzyrea_ yep. have you looked at all at the online manual? 04:38 wizzyrea_ (just curious) 04:39 wizzyrea_ you're on 3.0 so the very first manual listed here is probably the one: http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 04:40 prawesh hmm... 04:40 prawesh might have forgot that... 05:11 kmkale good morning all 05:28 kmkale_ @weather mumbai 05:28 munin kmkale_: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 27.0�C (10:10 AM IST on November 21, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 05:28 Brooke how was your Diwali? 05:33 kmkale hey Brooke IT WAS EXCELLENT 05:33 Brooke :D 05:33 kmkale lots of shopping, crackers and sweets 05:33 Brooke elephants? 05:33 kmkale huh? 05:34 Brooke any elephants or are you too far into the big city for such things? 05:35 kmkale aahh. I live on outskirts of Mumbai. The financial capital of India. We see one sometimes but then its usually being used by someone to beg money. 05:35 Brooke *nod* 05:35 Brooke didn't know if you traveled out or no. Guess it's no! 05:36 kmkale one day I paid a mahaut for a 5km ride on a elephant for my son. he was thrilled!! 05:36 Brooke hehehe 05:36 Brooke how old is your son? 05:36 kmkale 10 05:40 kmkale when does the Christmas start? 05:41 Brooke uhm, to the best of my heathen knowledge, it's mostly one day in America on 25 Dec. 05:41 Brooke there's Christmas Eve stuff. 05:41 Brooke there used to be saint's days associated. 05:42 kmkale actually i meant the season. shopping and fun ;) 05:42 Brooke ooof 05:42 Brooke that nonsense starts this Fridau 05:42 Brooke y 05:42 Brooke even 05:42 kmkale :) 06:58 chris well that was tiring 07:07 kmkale vettori's bowling well chris 10:30 prawesh do anyone know how to change default framework to new framework instead of default framework?? 10:30 prawesh or hide the default framework??? 12:23 cait hi #koha 12:56 cait !hudson botsnack lebkuchen 12:56 hudsonbot cait: great! yum yum. I could eat lebkuchen all day long 15:08 jcamins_a lebkuchen... 15:08 cait hehe 15:08 jcamins Oh, it requires chilling overnight. :( 15:08 cait hi jcamins :) 15:08 jcamins Good morning. 15:08 cait lebkuchen? 15:09 jcamins That's what the recipe says. 15:10 cait the dough? 15:10 jcamins Right. 15:10 cait I never let it chill overnight, but they get hard after baking, so best to let them rest some time to get soft again 15:10 jcamins Hm. 15:11 cait I think there are a lot of different recipes 15:13 jcamins Maybe I'll make beghrir for breakfast. http://moroccanfood.about.com/od/pancakes/r/Beghrir_Recipe.htm 15:15 cait loooks yummy :) 16:03 cait hi hdl 16:26 cait hi magnus :) 16:26 magnus hiya cait 16:37 jcamins Hello magnus. 16:38 magnus hiya jcamins! 16:44 jcamins How are things across the pond? 16:47 magnus cold and dark... ;-) 16:51 cait @wunder bodo, norway 16:51 munin cait: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (5:20 PM CET on November 21, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). 16:51 cait @wunder Konstanz 16:51 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.6�C (5:50 PM CET on November 21, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady). 16:52 jcamins In a few minutes I can cook the msemmen! :D 16:53 jcamins http://www.grouprecipes.com/54830/msemmen-moroccan-flaky-bread.html 17:01 cait msemmen? 17:02 cait noodle water on stove... 17:02 cait hmpf! 17:05 magnus Pork ribs in the oven here - traditional xmas fare for a lot of people in norway... 17:06 cait oh 17:07 cait noodles with cheese... 17:22 jcamins magnus: aren't you a little bit early for xmas? 17:27 magnus jcamins: yeah, but i use something else for xmas dinner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinnekj%C3%B8tt then again, we already had that once this fall too ;-) 17:34 jcamins Interesting. 17:35 magnus why have it only once a year when it's that good? ;-) 17:43 magnus dinnertime! 17:43 cait magnus++ 18:57 chris Morning 18:58 cait ata marie chris :) 19:00 chris :) 19:30 richard hi 19:31 chris hi richard 19:32 richard heya chris 20:36 chris http://anitsirk.blip.tv/file/4411674/ 20:37 chris definitely watch this one ... and show it to all your clients :) 21:24 brendan_l @wunder ukaih, ca 21:24 munin brendan_l: Error: No such location could be found. 21:24 brendan_l @wunder ukiah, ca 21:24 munin brendan_l: The current temperature in westside ukiah, Ukiah, California is 8.1�C (1:26 PM PST on November 21, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.03 in 983.0 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 4 PM this afternoon to 3 am PST Monday above 2000 feet... 21:24 chris chilly 21:25 brendan_l yeah I see snow up on the top of the mountains 22:19 chris heya daniel :) 22:20 cait hi daniel 22:21 cait chris: it works! 22:21 chris it works? 22:21 * chris has forgotten what it is 22:21 cait tss :) 22:21 cait controlnumber in search title in links 22:21 chris yay! 22:22 cait the field is the same for unimarc and marc21 22:22 chris cool 22:24 cait not sure if it still makes sense to create a new routine? 22:24 daniel hi chris 22:24 daniel hi cait 22:24 chris well depends if its the same in normarc 22:24 chris might be worth asking magnus 22:24 cait yup ok 22:25 daniel @chris: how was the birthday bash? 22:25 munin daniel: Error: "chris:" is not a valid command. 22:25 daniel whoops 22:26 chris tiring, but fun 22:26 cait :) 22:26 cait daniel: without the @ :) 22:27 daniel cait: thanks, got it, i've been away for a few days and forgot 22:27 cait !hudson botsnack cookie 22:27 hudsonbot cait: yummy! I just love cookie! 22:39 brendan_l wb logbot 22:43 chris we missed our chance to go crazy with no logging 22:43 chris brendan_l: http://anitsirk.blip.tv/file/4411674/ 22:44 chris one to watch, and to make all your clients watch ;) 22:44 brendan_l ah that should take awhile to load here - but thanks 22:52 cait good night all :) 22:52 chris night cait 23:08 brendan_l @seen nate 23:08 munin brendan_l: nate was last seen in #koha 6 days, 3 hours, 50 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <Nate> Ok everyone ill talk to yas in a week!