Time Nick Message 23:29 cait t 23:25 brendan wow cold out 23:25 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.9�C (3:23 PM PST on November 19, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect from midnight tonight to 9 am PST Saturday... 23:25 brendan @wunder 93117 22:55 cait weeekend! 22:55 wizzyrea hi cait :D 22:53 cait hi liz :) 22:49 wizzyrea friday, bad day to try to get tech support 22:45 mib_f67cq hello 22:11 cait hi #koha 21:46 jcamins Have a good weekend, #koha 21:20 Brooke right well, all documentation and no fun makes me even duller than I already am 21:13 Brooke mmmm mead. 21:13 wizzyrea yum 21:12 wizzyrea oooo 21:12 * chris_n heads out to steal honey from the bees 20:58 jcamins ... and that's my new philosophy! 20:58 * Brooke takes it as a compliment. 20:58 nengard Sorry got distracted .. you're all silly btw :) 20:57 Brooke <--- prop mistress and back stage ratbag for many productions 20:56 * jcamins only knows the show because several of his friends were in a community theatre version. 20:56 Brooke *duck* 20:56 Brooke doesn't count. 20:56 Brooke pfft 20:55 jcamins You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown. :) 20:55 Brooke there are some productions where I could if pressed sing the playbook. 20:55 Brooke don't know that one. 20:55 jcamins ... and Brooke is not a musical theatre fan. :) 20:55 jcamins Some take a lifetime. 20:54 Brooke pfft, we talkin' about the same philosophy, boy? ; 20:54 jcamins Some philosophies, are clear. 20:54 Brooke te nosce. 20:53 jcamins Some philosophies, are simple. 20:52 jcamins wizzyrea: a good philosophy. 20:50 wizzyrea aha, a philosophy I can get behind: http://lifehacker.com/5693759/create-better-things-by-abandoning-crap-and-focusing-on-the-good-stuff 20:36 Brooke that Conference barcode read app was hawt. 20:36 Brooke heheh 20:35 gmcharlt and this is exactly why open source ILS projects have not been quick to embrace the mobile OPAC -- too cramped to contain the community 20:34 wizzyrea ow, that was my rib! 20:33 * chris_n suddenly feels awful cramped 20:32 Brooke I fit in your phone?! 20:31 nengard Hiya from my phone 20:28 * Brooke salutes Nengard with respect. 20:19 jcamins schuster: you had me scared there. 20:19 jcamins schuster: nope, membership database. 20:18 schuster sorry jcamins I thought you were talking about a library system migration! 20:15 * Brooke waves at wizzyrea 20:14 Brooke oh joy, the issuing table is even more complex than the last time I checked XD 20:13 jcamins I strongly support open source, but some technical expertise is required if you want to maintain your own. 20:12 jcamins We're looking at membership databases. 20:12 jcamins schuster: oh god, you think someone will propose an open source alternative? Just shoot me now. 20:12 schuster :) 20:11 schuster It's open source it's free right! 20:10 jcamins And "yes, it will cost money to have our data migrated, unless someone else in this room is going to volunteer? No? Well, there you are then." 20:09 jcamins And I'm the unpopular one who gets to say "no, we can't just reduce our expenditures on membership to balance the budget." 20:09 * druthb waves. 20:09 Brooke yee haw. 20:09 jcamins Not only is it a budget meeting, it's a budget meeting for a non-profit association. 20:08 Brooke and that it was slightly more merciful to have me speak at 10. 20:08 Brooke it took the selectmen 3 years to figger out I didn't live in town 20:08 Brooke mah budget meeting used to be at 7 am ish in Hinsdale. 20:08 Brooke my condolences. 20:07 Brooke eeeewww budget meeting 20:07 * jcamins gurgles wordlessly. It seems he is conserving the remainder of his quota of words for the week until dinner tonight, when he will be preparing for the budget meeting in two weeks. 20:04 * jwagner is too busy napping after a very large and tasty holiday lunch 20:04 * druthb waves and points, and babbles incoherently. It appears she has used up her quota of words for the week. 19:57 Brooke don't all talk at once. 18:40 schuster wizzyrea - sorry I should have mentioned that my opinion was based on my current administration view. 18:40 gmcharlt chris_n: none 18:39 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4365223/Rescue-for-trapped-West-Coast-miners-could-take-days 18:39 chris yeah, still 27 missing :( 18:39 chris_n sorry to hear about the coal mine accident there 18:38 chris_n heya chris 18:38 chsanch chris: Ok, thanks, we'll try that 18:37 chris chsanch: if my theory is right, you might want to ask the library you are getting the records from what there z3950 server is set up to send 18:36 * chris_n hears his name in the same sentence as guru and quickly hides :-) 18:36 chsanch chris: Ok, any recommendation? 18:35 chris seneca: chris_n is probably the guru on that 18:35 seneca Hey all - anyone in here familiar with 3.2's label creation process? 18:35 chris the server is sending utf8, the record is marc8 (or vice versa) 18:34 chris right, so i think there is a mismatch 18:33 chsanch hmm, it seems to work, but, we have not encoded characters: Valeri M�aximo 18:31 chsanch let me see 18:30 chris sometimes that works 18:29 chris whatever it is, try changing it to the other, then try that record again 18:29 chsanch chris: marc8 18:29 chris chsanch: do you have the z3950 server set to marc8 or utf8? 18:29 chsanch Consell Català de l'Esport 18:28 chsanch this record is in Catalán 18:28 chsanch we have a problem with our koha, we have koha installed on Debian Lenny, when we try to save a marc record from a z395.50 server we get this error: Wide character in null operation at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/Charset/Table.pm line 96. 18:26 chsanch Hi 18:02 wizzyrea in fact, imo we've been neglecting some of the flashier things to make the staff side better lately. 18:00 wizzyrea because I don't think that's true at all. 18:00 wizzyrea schuster: are you trying to say that we only do flashy things for the public? 17:54 chris_n hdl, gmcharlt: any objections to my backing 4141 down to critical as it is not really blocking any release 17:54 schuster So if I edit an authority record does it actually update the associated bib records? 17:47 schuster I'm really glad we have an "authority file" that was one of my key reasons for selecting Koha... Now if we can work to easily update/add to it... Back end stuff though isn't as flashy as rating systems for the public. 17:45 sekjal separate zebra databases 17:44 sekjal schuster: only biblios are searched in a keyword search 17:42 schuster I'm sure someone knows actually - I just don't. 17:41 schuster Anyone know if authority records are searched in a keyword or only biblio? 17:30 chris_n k, a status update might still be in order 17:29 gmcharlt chris_n: it should stay open, I'm sure there may be some discrepency left to resolve 17:27 hdl maybe gmcharlt can comment on that. 17:26 hdl well... Would be better if We had a clean upgrade path between 3.0.x and 3.2 17:21 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4141 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, reconcile 3.0.x and HEAD database updates for 3.2.0 17:21 chris_n hdl, gmcharlt: can we mark bug 4141 fixed and close it? 17:19 cait less than 30 minutes from 100% 17:19 cait the battery of this laptop is a joke :( 17:17 jwagner :-( 17:13 jcamins jwagner: sorry, Shari already left for DC yesterday. :P 17:12 cait ;) 17:12 cait perfect weekend program 17:11 jwagner And ship them to all of us??? 17:10 cait hm... you could bake more cookies? 17:10 cait oh 17:03 jcamins Actually, this weekend I don't have any jobs out of the house. So of course this is the weekend that my wife is in DC on a research trip. :( 17:02 jcamins Lucky you! 17:02 cait weekend! :) 17:02 cait hi jcamins 17:02 jcamins Hi cait 17:01 cait hi #koha 16:37 slef But if people will discuss things there, let's link the bug to it. 16:36 slef I think patches is the wrong place for discussion. 16:36 slef jcamins: yes, just finished 2010-October. 16:33 jcamins Looks like slef is running his script again. :) 16:16 bigbrovar I have got to head out now thanks for the help would have to look into it later 16:16 bigbrovar jcamins: tried that same result. 16:07 jcamins Why is ccl/cql/pqf supposed to be "DIAGNOSTIC ONLY!!"? 16:05 jcamins Oh, never mind. I see. 16:04 jcamins That's weird. 16:02 jcamins The patch for bug 4852, that is. 16:02 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4852 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Facets doesn't work with direct CCL queries 16:02 jcamins Does anyone know the status of bug 4852? Was it committed? 16:01 jcamins Hm. 15:55 jcamins Try this search: ccl=kw,wrdl:book AND branch:SABL 15:54 jcamins That's very odd. 15:49 bigbrovar jcamins: here is a screenshot example of what I am saying. I search for a term http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4144/5189328597_bfc3a176a7_m.jpg it shows me the libraries where with books related to that term. when I click for it to refine the search by one of the libraries. I get this http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigbrovar2/5189937016/ 15:43 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4852 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Facets doesn't work with direct CCL queries 15:43 jcamins Bug 4852? 15:43 jcamins Ah. 15:41 bigbrovar it always returns no result when I try 15:41 bigbrovar It just that I am unable to refine search by libraries. 15:40 bigbrovar exactly I was about to clearify that 15:37 jcamins Oh, wait, never mind. You're encountering a different problem. 15:36 jcamins Try putting AND between the two terms. 15:36 jcamins bigbrovar: I ran into this error. 15:32 sekjal hdl: great, I'll take a look 15:31 hdl sekjal: work has been done on that in 3.4/Biblibre-admin 15:28 sekjal I'm trying to uncheck a bunch of values, but as soon as I come back to the page, they're checked again 15:28 sekjal anyone have success with the Branch Transfer Limits in Koha admin? 15:24 bigbrovar slef: you are right, but books attach to the library show up in the search. and when I click refine search by LIbrary "A" No results match your search for “kw,wrdl: book branch:Sid Ahmed Baba Library†even though books held and owned by the particular library shows up in the initial search 15:22 slef hilongo: 3.2.7 is not out yet. We're on 3.2.0 15:21 slef bigbrovar: that looks like a search term, not an error. 15:13 bigbrovar hi guys I am finding it impossible to get refined search by libraries to work when I try to refine a search by library I get this error “kw,wrdl: book branch:Sid Ahmed Baba Library†even though books mapped to that library shows up in search. I had this issue in 3.0.6 and 3.2 15:07 * wizzyrea cheers for Friday 15:06 sekjal good morning all, and happy Friday (for all those for whom such is applicable)! 15:06 jcamins Good morning wizzyrea! 15:00 wizzyrea and good morning everybody :) 15:00 * druthb waves to wizzyrea. 14:57 wizzyrea :) 14:57 jcamins Cool! I had to do was *think* "wizzyrea might know something about this," and here she is. :) 14:57 wizzyrea I've seen weird space issues, we had good luck re-creating our templates 14:54 seneca the label and layout worked great in 3.1, but in 3.2 it prints with too much space between the text and barcode... 14:54 seneca I'm getting a weird space issue and I don't know where to look to start investigating 14:53 jcamins seneca: we don't use labels, sorry. 14:53 seneca hrmmm 14:53 hilongo not me ... but we would try that next week 14:53 seneca Has anyone tried creating labels with 3.2 yet? 14:49 hilongo Hola tcohen :) 14:43 jcamins He is currently cataloging a newish book that should already have been cataloged, but doesn't seem to have a record. That on its own is not particularly strange, but there is a record for one of the articles in the book. Very strange. 14:43 seneca Does anyone here know anything about the label creation process in 3.2? 14:42 seneca good morning everyone (if you're from where I am...) 14:40 * jcamins has a bibliomystery to start the day with 14:40 druthb hi, jcamins! :D 14:39 jcamins Good morning, #koha 13:49 * druthb must concur with jwagner on this...lime-flavored Tootsie Rolls taste fine, but..... 13:48 hilongo just 'something'... :) 13:41 tcohen hilongo: que problema estas teniendo? 13:41 jwagner You know, there's just something ...WRONG... about orange-flavored Tootsie Rolls. 13:08 hilongo anybody can help me with some problem updating my Koha from 3.0.6 to 3.2.7 12:43 druthb you might chop it into multiple 653 entries, depending on what indicators you'd need. But a comma-separated list would work, for search purposes. 12:42 slef yes, I've used that, splitting on commas IIRC 12:42 munin slef: Uncontrolled term (Repeatable) 12:42 slef @marc 653 a 12:41 druthb kmkale: if it's not under authority control, then that's probably where I'd put it. 12:35 kmkale 653$a? 12:35 kmkale what is the proper marc tag for keywords defined in a single field like "Science of Psychology, Principles of Learning, Human Learning, Motivation, Perception, Personality, Psychological Testing" 12:31 * jwagner also thanks gmcharlt for the caffeine, and goes to the kitche to retrieve it. 12:31 * jwagner agrees that druthb is way too cheerful, but I am not a morning person.... 12:24 * druthb is way too cheerful and chirpy for her own good this morning. 12:24 * gmcharlt hands jwagner some caffeine 12:24 * jwagner gives a feeble flap of the hand in return 12:23 * druthb waves at jwagner 12:23 ZarkoKuva Hi everyone 12:23 druthb g'morning, #koha 11:17 sophie_m oups, not the right window, sorry 11:17 sophie_m hdl : tu pourras regarder MT4483 en rentrant ? Merci 10:55 kmkale s/interesting/interested/ 10:48 kmkale however I fully agree with you. Its the people that make the conference not facilities :) 10:44 kmkale and we have wonderful facilities here 10:44 kmkale chris: I wrote there because VPM would be very interesting in hosting Kohacon in India. 09:16 chris i stand by my comment there :) 09:15 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Talk:Koha_Conference_Bidding 09:15 chris i do feel we are making it way more complicated than it needs to be 09:15 * chris just edited the wiki page 09:14 chris everything else is optional 09:14 chris kmkale: a venue and speakers are the only important things 08:48 ivanc hi #koha 08:27 brendan_l night 06:30 kmkale hi all 06:25 Amit heya brendab_l 06:24 brendan_l heya amit 06:12 cait breakfast ;) 06:12 cait have to go 06:12 * cait hands the keys over to wizzyrea 05:11 cait keys 05:11 * cait is rattling with the kes 04:42 cait that's what happens if you wake up too early... 04:41 Brooke make sure you watch that Chris guy. He's a troublemaker. 04:40 * Brooke hands Cait the keys. 04:40 Brooke cait's on. It's shift change time ;) 04:26 Amit heya chris, brendan 04:26 Amit heya Brooke 04:26 * Brooke waves at Amit 04:06 hudsonbot Koha_Master: last build: 172 (7 hr 6 min ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/172/ 04:06 hudsonbot Koha_3.2.x: last build: 45 (6 hr 50 min ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/45/ 04:06 hudsonbot Koha_3.0.x: last build: 2 (19 days ago): FAILURE: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.0.x/2/ 04:06 hudsonbot status of all projects: 04:06 brendan_l !hudson status 01:10 chris cool 01:09 jcamins Yeah, looks like 3.2.x and master both built successfully, but all builds of 3.0.x are failing. 01:06 chris jcamins_a: does http://hudson.koha-community.org work for you? 01:00 jcamins_a chris: so it would seem. 00:25 chris thd is catching up on mail obviously