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23:58 richard    cool, thanks
23:58 chris      yes
23:57 richard    tags question. does koha keep a record of who adds a tag?
23:54 rhcl       hihi
23:54 * druthb   waves to rhcl.
23:54 druthb     lol
23:53 rhcl       hudson, you need to start drinking Sanka
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23:51 hudsonbot  * Katrin Fischer: Bug 5059: Inconsistent use of ordering price and list price in vendor form
23:51 hudsonbot  * Owen Leonard: Corrected patch for Bug 4520, facets "show more" doesn't work
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23:43 munin      druthb: Quote #60: "<owen> My 9-month-old may not be walking yet, but she's got great bib control." (added by gmcharlt at 05:31 PM, February 19, 2010)
23:43 druthb     @quote random
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23:16 druthb     :)  hi, chris
23:16 chris      hi druthb
23:06 druthb     howdy, #koha.
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21:50 irma       G'day all
21:48 irma       G'day wizzyrea
21:44 cait       good night #koha
21:39 jcamins    Good night, #koha, better leave before I get too snarky.
21:38 jcamins    [off] it will be a whole new world. A shiny one.
21:38 wizzyrea   hi irma :)
21:34 jcamins    Here's yet another discussion of RDA.
21:34 jcamins    Speak of the devil.
21:11 Brooke     I better get to fixing supper et cetera.
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20:34 Brooke     there are a daunting number of switches to flip now.
20:34 chris      done
20:34 chris      stop it doing that
20:34 chris      if the dropdown is appending wrdl
20:34 Brooke     care to share how to fix it?
20:34 chris      if everyone took that attitude, id be the only one working on it
20:34 chris      pshaw
20:33 Brooke     easy words for Mr. Koha to utter.
20:33 chris      just fix it ;)
20:33 chris      why?
20:33 jcamins    There go my visions of being able to easily find books with common titles.
20:30 jcamins    Which in turn breaks complete-subfield.
20:29 chris      which is st-word-list
20:29 chris      appears to
20:28 jcamins    Ick, the dropdown automatically appends wrdl to indexes in the search box?
20:24 chris      heh
20:24 * jcamins  did that and got totally confused and overwhelmed
20:24 chris      theres all sorts of neatness in there'
20:23 chris      have a look at  etc/zebradb/ccl.properties
20:23 jcamins    Nifty!
20:23 chris      there is a bunch more we can do with zebra, we just need to fix search.pm to be usable
20:22 chris      works too
20:22 chris      actually ccl=ti,complete-subfield,rk=the.
20:22 chris      ccl=ti,complete-subfield,rk="the."
20:22 chris      try this
20:11 jcamins    (so clearly it's been indexed)
20:10 jcamins    This query brings it up: http://donum.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=american+poetry
20:10 jcamins    http://donum.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=ccl%3Dkw,rk:the
20:10 chris      url jcamins ?
20:10 Brooke     stopwords file?
20:10 jcamins    Or, rather, it probably did, but there are 52937 hits.
20:10 jcamins    Can't find "The."
20:09 jcamins    Hrm.
20:09 chris      theres a ton of stuff in zebra we arent using
20:09 wizzyrea   (I'm thinking in default installs)
20:09 pastebot   "chris" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "# Rank Weights r1 9=32 r2 9=28" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/104
20:08 wizzyrea   it appears to be
20:08 chris      i think its on in yours wizzyrea
20:08 wizzyrea   so surely it was on at some point
20:08 chris      hehe, typo
20:07 chris      http://opac.rhcl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=ccl%3Dkw,rk%3D%22the+the%22&limit=
20:07 chris      rk will work too
20:07 chris      check out etc/zebradb/ccl.properties
20:06 chris      rank
20:03 jcamins    How do you enable relevance ranking with ccl?
20:03 cait       is there a solution?
19:58 chris      when stopwords go bad
19:58 chris      heh
19:58 owen       710 	2_ |a The (Musical group)
19:58 owen       In LOC's record for The the's "Soul mining," the band is identified as "The"
19:57 Brooke     well, Sodom has it set poorly.
19:57 owen       Not only that you have to actually click the "start over" link or all your subsequent searches will fail too
19:56 chris      good old voyager
19:56 owen       If you title-search LOC for "the" you get "The system failed while performing your search."
19:55 Brooke     bonjour
19:54 jcamins    Found it.
19:54 jcamins    A samizdat poetry journal with the title "The"?
19:54 cait       perhaps a control number?
19:53 chris      nope
19:53 chris      if it has an issn
19:53 jcamins    Oh, I guess it's hard to search for, huh?
19:52 jcamins    NYPL's Z39.50 works.
19:52 Brooke     Boston mebbe
19:52 chris      into koha, see what it does to it
19:52 chris      pull in the record from LOC
19:52 Brooke     don't know if their culture is cool enough for that kind of migration
19:52 jcamins    Such as "finally your patrons will be able to just type 'The' into the search box, and get the record they want."
19:51 jcamins    And we should be able to offer compelling features to persuade the NYPL to go with Koha next migration.
19:51 chris      heh
19:51 darling    i don't see why we should be rewarding that type of naming behaviour
19:51 Brooke     those bastages have the radical american indian review....
19:51 jcamins    Brooke: I was curious. :P
19:50 jcamins    It's hit eleven of twelve.
19:50 Brooke     what's the point, NYPL is on III.
19:50 jcamins    Well, kind of.
19:50 jcamins    If you search for Title: The in the NYPL catalog, it comes up.
19:50 * owen     tried 'the the'
19:50 chris      you cant find it in wellington city's catalogue
19:50 chris      as in the band
19:49 sekjal     sounds like another must-have biblio record for the demo system
19:49 chris      try searching the the
19:49 * jcamins  goes to search "The" in the NYPL catalog.
19:49 jcamins    The NYPL is the only place I know for sure has it.
19:49 wizzyrea   in there*
19:49 wizzyrea   dunno, we've got some crazy stuf int her
19:49 Brooke     bet it's in Jar's
19:48 chris      im doubting its in nekls catalogue
19:48 jcamins    chris: impressive. For your next trick, can you make it handle The (that is, the samizdat poetry journal from the 90s)?
19:46 * druthb   runs away from the clown.
19:45 chris      shazzam!
19:45 chris      http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=it
19:44 druthb     harrrumph!
19:44 Brooke     that puts it into perspective :)
19:44 Brooke     so it's just like me.
19:44 chris      ours is jsut mostly garbage
19:44 chris      but they are total garbage
19:44 chris      like i say, its better than others
19:44 Brooke     (stopword thing, I realise)
19:44 chris      Brooke: still can
19:44 Brooke     where other ILSs failed utterly
19:43 chris      and if we rewrote the search module in a way that wasnt a maze of incomprehension we could make it work a lot better
19:43 Brooke     there was a Librarian at CCILA that was very hot on Koha being able to find King's IT
19:43 chris      but it still works better than lots
19:43 * wizzyrea coughs
19:43 wizzyrea   marc
19:43 * wizzyrea coughs
19:43 jcamins    Brooke: see cait's comment 40 minutes ago. ;)
19:42 chris      its always been garbage
19:42 Brooke     didn't used to be. What happened?
19:42 chris      Brooke: our search module is garbage
19:41 owen       Bummer that highlighting is busted when you use ccl
19:41 Brooke     and someone just raised the Librarian finding information but not the patron so :P
19:41 chris      C4/Search is a maze of garbage
19:41 chris      yes it is
19:41 wizzyrea   and on my 3.3 that has old production data on it, the ranking seems to be broken, the results are much better with the ranking on
19:41 Brooke     but it's not garbage
19:41 wizzyrea   GIGO and all that ;)
19:40 Brooke     (Precise match > longer variant)
19:40 chris      Brooke: its doing exactly what we told it to
19:40 Brooke     is there a way to kidney punch right trunc so that it cooperates?
19:40 chris      it seems to be doing ranking
19:40 chris      http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=alex
19:39 chris      now if you look at
19:39 chris      yup
19:39 wizzyrea   so it's the rank bit
19:39 chris      but ranking is still better with them than no ranking
19:39 chris      so the stemming (right truncation) does make it harder to find exact matches
19:38 chris      with
19:38 chris      http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=ccl%3Drank,kw,wrdl,rtrn%3Dalex
19:38 chris      without again
19:38 chris      http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=ccl%3Dkw,wrdl,rtrn%3Dalex
19:37 chris      now those 2 queries arent doing right truncation, so lemme turn that on, cos it looks like you have that on too
19:36 Brooke     same hyeah
19:36 chris      ur db is borked
19:36 chris      no, its slow as hell
19:36 chris      with
19:36 wizzyrea   i hope that's faster for you than it was for me… oi.
19:36 chris      http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=ccl%3Drank,kw,wrdl%3Dalex
19:36 chris      without ranking
19:36 chris      http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=ccl%3Dkw,wrdl%3Dalex
19:36 chris      wizzyrea: easy way to check is this
19:35 wizzyrea   where do you check?
19:35 chris      but it seems to me, that you get much better results with relevance ranking on
19:35 Brooke     can you configure those things up front so they happen out of the box>
19:34 chris      dunno, cos the people who are complaining, i cant see their opacs
19:34 chris      you can pass things to zebra to make it wait fields
19:34 owen       So chris what's the diagnosis? Is ranking really broken (or not used) by default?
19:34 chris      sekjal: it isnt actually that hard
19:33 Brooke     if we *really* wanna innovate, those would be smexy.
19:33 chris      nope, but neither is author a better match nessecarily than subtitle, on a keyword search
19:33 Brooke     prolly not sekjal
19:33 Brooke     I just think more is not necessarily better.
19:33 sekjal     I'd like to see user-configurable relevancy algorithms, but that'd probably be way more trouble than it's worth
19:32 * Brooke   is not as stuffy as you think
19:32 Brooke     raw frequency might be a bear on ranking
19:32 chris      cos they understand rules that like
19:32 chris      in traditional catalogues yeah, where only librarians can find stuff
19:31 Brooke     I still think author trumps subtitle
19:31 chris      yep
19:31 owen       That's +2 for that one over +1 for the author hit, as I see it
19:31 owen       "Therapy" has the search term in the subtitle and in a subject heading
19:30 Brooke     aye, but should it not drill down?
19:30 chris      thats just a keyword, its sure frequency of occurence
19:30 chris      if you do author search it does
19:30 Brooke     but for the first, it would be ideal to have author hits rise up in weight.
19:30 chris      my theory is that if you seeing results like the 2nd, that look to have little bearing on what you are searching on, chances are, it isnt actually doing relevance ranking
19:30 Brooke     definitely yuck on the second
19:29 chris      with relevance ranking disabled
19:29 chris      http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=ccl%3Dkw,rtrn,wrdl%3Dalex
19:29 chris      with relevance ranking
19:29 chris      http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=alex
19:29 chris      ok
19:16 richard    h iBrooke
19:16 Brooke     ho richard
19:15 chris      back
19:11 Brooke     oh yes it issss
19:11 cait       nah, poor marc, it's not all his fault
19:10 jcamins    cait: you have encapsulated the world's problems.
19:05 cait       :)
19:04 Brooke     everyone else has perpetually been behind Rosalie and JoAnn's thought.
19:04 cait       and MARC broke it all
19:04 Brooke     Koha was sort of close to the mark, and definitely close to DC, when it came out
19:04 Brooke     only to be fair
19:04 Brooke     *nod*
19:04 jcamins    Because it's going to be the next big thing, and everyone wants to be ready.
19:03 cait       so why are people asking about rda fields in kohaß
19:03 jcamins    cait: good idea.
19:01 cait       perhaps you can get a discount on buying them in dozens?
19:00 jcamins    cait: there are so many good options!
18:59 cait       lol
18:59 cait       or at what?
18:59 chris      If I can hit stephen abram its worth it
18:59 cait       where do you aim with your catapult?
18:59 chris      Bbiab
18:59 Brooke     you must document this, sir.
18:59 cait       expensive ammo
18:59 chris      Right my stop
18:59 chris      As ammo for my catapault
18:59 Brooke     it'll be a handful of early adaptors
18:59 chris      I am
18:58 * Brooke   doesn't believe _any_ library will be
18:58 * jcamins  doesn't think his library will be purchasing the print version of RDA for a while.
18:47 chris      Got a 3.2 up and running with zebra? If so then yep
18:46 Brooke     ken ah test, too?
18:45 chris      And hopefully a patch will come from that
18:45 chris      I'm gonna get wizzyrea to do some testing for me
18:45 chris      My testing shows if you actually enable it you get much better results
18:45 chris      Hiya cait
18:42 chris      Well you have to tell zebra to apply relevance ranking, somewhere that has been removed, or never existed in the first place
18:41 cait       morning chris
18:41 Brooke     How did it work in the before time?
18:41 * Brooke   thanks chris
18:41 * chris    continues a mail thread in irc
18:40 chris      I still think that in most searches we aren't actually telling zebra to relevance rank and that's the root of the problem
18:37 wizzyrea   ^^
18:37 * Brooke   salutes Chris with respect
18:37 chris      Morning
18:36 schuster   Yes - online they wanted like $300 annually.
18:33 Brooke     sorry, jcamins, the legal pr0n was just too shiny.
18:33 Brooke     http://www.rdatoolkit.org/RDAPrint
18:28 Brooke     omg there's one on violent video games, too.
18:26 * jcamins  is curious
18:26 jcamins    A bunch of 8.5"x11" printouts?
18:25 jcamins    Sceenshots?
18:25 jcamins    Yup.
18:24 Brooke     for reals?
18:24 jcamins    Wow, RDA was published in a print edition.
18:23 Brooke     ooooh smexy  Social Networking and Litigation: Friend or Unethical Foe? Event on Tuesday, November 30, 2010
18:17 Brooke     howdy big
18:12 Brooke     techno = hummus + a salad
18:12 wizzyrea   techno ;)
18:12 Brooke     metal or rock?
18:11 wizzyrea   hmm
18:11 wizzyrea   cold and nasty, burrito or pizza?
18:11 wizzyrea   oh, lunch time
18:07 Brooke     it *is* really funny, so long as you aren't me.
18:07 * druthb   is nicer than that.
18:07 * druthb   wouldn't do a number on Brooke.
18:07 Brooke     if you really wanna do a number on me, you round up mah Fraternity Brothers with a little help from the Wayback Machine ;)
18:04 druthb     hee hee.
18:02 * Brooke   can take the piss outta people, but can't take it herself. {Error line 67. TFU}
18:01 Brooke     :P
18:01 munin      druthb: Quote #104: "<Brooke> not people quoting me *again*" (added by druthb at 01:07 AM, November 17, 2010)
18:01 druthb     @quote get 104
18:00 Brooke     what it is
17:46 hdl        But well. Work on C4::Reserves C4::Search C4::XSLT cycle is a good start
17:46 hdl        I think I fail the step 3.
17:44 sekjal     step 3: open in Graphviz, and export as PDF
17:44 sekjal     step 2: I run that file through another script to add highlighting for cycles
17:44 sekjal     step 1: my script creates a .dot file out of the kohaclone/C4 directory
17:43 hdl        How do you produce pdf ?
17:43 hdl        thank you.
17:43 sekjal     thanks, hdl!
17:43 hdl        ok... will try to work on that.
17:42 hdl        yes.
17:39 sekjal     there is a loop between C4::Reserves, C4::Search and C4::XSLT, though
17:39 sekjal     haven't had time to refine my scripts to only include modules that both 'use' and are used
17:38 sekjal     http://bit.ly/co8iEg
17:38 sekjal     one includes highlighting, which helps a little
17:38 sekjal     I've gotten two maps out there now, but both are very large and difficult to read
17:37 hdl        sekjal: have you been able to produce some intereting map of cycles?
17:37 hdl        yes... It is that kind of stuff. you should look at the readsippacket.
17:37 wizzyrea   nuts.
17:37 sekjal     bluesocket
17:37 wizzyrea   sekjal: envisionware?
17:36 sekjal     both $uid and $pwd are coming through as uninitialized
17:35 hdl        using a SIMPLE password does the trick
17:35 hdl        iirc. @ and ! would not be recognized.
17:35 hdl        yeah... there is a striping of characters which makes some passwords not working.
17:34 sekjal     so, lots of mucking about with configs, and talking with the service's support peoiple
17:34 sekjal     one SIP service seems to be transmitting the username and password for the SIP user in a format that Koha can't recognize
17:34 hdl        (for holds and Renewals, iirc)
17:34 hdl        I have done some work on SIP it is on our branch 3.0.x
17:33 hdl        which ones ?
17:33 sekjal     doing okay; grappling with some SIP issues
17:33 hdl        hi how are you ?
17:33 sekjal     hdl: yes, I'm here
17:33 hdl        sekjal: around ?
17:32 hdl        cfouts: around ?
17:17 druthb     just now!  sheesh.
17:16 jwagner    Yes, but my office mate just now called in the Chinese order.  Certain people twisted my arm to order good food instead of the healthy stuff I bring in my lunch :-)
17:16 wizzyrea   it's lunchtime on the east coast ;)
17:16 rhcl       lunch time for you easterners
17:16 * jwagner  notes the usual daily digression into food conversation, and gets hungry....
17:15 * jcamins  has never eaten a poached egg either.
17:15 rhcl       2 fried eggs, heavily peppered, big thick slice of ham, hash browns and buttered wheat toast
17:15 owen       As Mr. Wonka said, "A poached egg isn't a poached egg unless it's been stolen from the woods in the dead of night."
17:15 druthb     An English muffin, a slice of canadian bacon, a poached egg, and hollandaise sauce.  yum.
17:14 wizzyrea   ya, poached eggs are yummy, especially with hollandaise sauce
17:14 druthb     oh!  is a yummy way to eat 'em.
17:14 cait       druthb: right, but never saw or ate some
17:12 druthb     pochierte eier?
17:12 jcamins    cait: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poaching and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poaching_(cooking)
17:12 jwagner    Whereas I'm referring to people who hunt illegally on other people's property :-(
17:12 druthb     a way to cook eggs...hm.
17:11 cait       poach?
17:10 * druthb   gets out some eggs, and gets ready to poach.
17:10 * jwagner  mutters about poachers....
17:09 munin      druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010)
17:09 druthb     @quote get 102
17:09 jwagner    heh
17:09 druthb     :-O
17:09 munin      druthb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 49 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 49.
17:09 druthb     @karma jwagner
17:09 druthb     m-hm.
17:08 munin      druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 39 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 39.
17:08 druthb     @karma druthb
17:08 * cait     woots back
17:08 * druthb   woots at cait, so she doesn't feel left out.
16:50 cait       woot magnus!
16:50 magnus     woot cait!
16:50 cait       ok :)
16:50 cait       oh
16:47 wizzyrea   because everybody deserves a woot once in a while :)
16:47 magnus     because it's fun?
16:46 cait       why are you wooting?
16:37 * druthb   woots at wizzyrea.
16:37 wizzyrea   woot druthb! :)
16:36 magnus     hi druthb and wizzyrea
16:34 druthb     hi, cait and liz and magnus! :)
16:34 magnus     i tried to correct it! ;-)
16:33 cait       hi magnus :)
16:33 cait       hi liz :)
16:33 cait       ih cait?
16:33 wizzyrea   hi cait :)
16:33 magnus     s/ih/hi/
16:33 magnus     ih cait
16:32 cait       hi #koha
16:20 kmkale     bye all
15:38 kmkale     Then the text on the sys pref page needs change
15:38 sekjal     kmkale: as I recall, the itmeBarcodeInputFilter is not applied to patron barcodes at all, no
15:36 kmkale     The Circulation system preference page says "itemBarcodeInputFilter   (modified)  	  scanned patron barcodes. ".. Does itemBarcodeInputFilter setting also affect patron barcodes in the same way as it does item barcodes?
15:35 wizzyrea   (completely self serving wiki edits)
15:35 wizzyrea   I did one of those a couple of weeks back
15:34 owen       I can assure you it was purely self-serving ;) Now maybe I'll remember
15:34 wizzyrea   thanks for the additions to the signoff page
15:34 wizzyrea   owen++
15:23 jwagner    Congrats to Amit!
15:19 owen       https://www.packtpub.com/koha-3-library-management-system/book
15:17 rhcl       amit published a book
15:11 jcamins    With the two digit (iso646) language code.
15:11 jcamins    The syspref is language, I think.
15:10 briceSanc  In fact, I want to display information based on the language
15:06 jcamins    I think there's a syspref.
15:06 briceSanc  server-side script
15:06 jcamins    briceSanc: server-side script or client-side script?
15:05 briceSanc  Do you know if there is a way to detect the current intranet language in a script ?
15:03 sekjal     morning, briceSanc!
15:02 briceSanc  Hello
14:58 * owen     adds more sign-off details to the wiki page on the subject
14:58 munin      jcamins: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 209 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 205.
14:58 jcamins    @karma gmcharlt
14:58 munin      jcamins: Karma for "git" has been increased 14 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 14.
14:58 jcamins    @karma git
14:58 jcamins    git++ gmcharlt++
14:57 munin      jcamins: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 208 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 204.
14:57 jcamins    @karma gmcharlt
14:57 munin      jcamins: Karma for "git" has been increased 13 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 13.
14:57 jcamins    @karma git
14:46 kf         git++ gmcharlt++
14:45 sekjal     git++
14:44 jcamins    chris_n: wow! That's really cool!
14:43 chris_n    or (courtesy gmcharlt): git format-patch -s --subject-prefix='PATCH] [SIGNED-OFF' origin
14:43 owen       Thanks sekjal, I don't think that was how I was instructed before but it seems to have worked
14:39 sekjal     then git format-patch -s to add the signoff line
14:39 sekjal     git commit --amend to add [SIGNED-OFF] to the beginning of the first line, plus any other notes further down
14:39 sekjal     the subject line of the email will be the first line of the updated commit message
14:39 owen       That adds the line to the commit message, but not to the subject line of the email does it?
14:37 sekjal     git commit --amend
14:36 owen       Can someone remind me of how to add [SIGNED-OFF] to a git send-email subject line?
14:27 sekjal     morning, jcamins
14:27 jcamins    Good morning, #koha
13:38 druthb     owen++
13:38 hudsonbot  * Owen Leonard: Bug 2122 follow-up for authorities editor
13:38 hudsonbot  * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 2122, Grayed out Fields not always visible
13:38 hudsonbot  * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5152 - confirm buttons different styles on lists
13:38 hudsonbot  * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5037 - If patron category is empty it shouldn't show
13:38 hudsonbot  * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3013, Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types
13:38 hudsonbot  Project Koha_3.2.x build #41: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha_3.2.x/41/
13:31 kmkale     The Circulation system preference page says "itemBarcodeInputFilter   (modified)  	  scanned patron barcodes. " Does itemBarcodeInputFilter setting also affect patron barcodes in the same way as it does item barcodes?
13:17 owen       Hi
13:16 druthb     Good morning, owen.
13:15 hudsonbot  Starting build 41 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:12 munin      New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 2122 follow-up for authorities editor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4edd2a9493305d6c2ef0094642d64807ff859ec> / Fix for Bug 2122, Grayed out Fields not always visible <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a34c5289ae4f43685af0e5288d7eefeb64993d8> / Fix for Bug 5152 - confirm buttons different styles on lists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;
13:11 druthb     lol
13:11 munin      druthb: Quote #87: "<wizzyrea> my standard reply for that is you know that women are genetically predisposed to wake to a baby's cry... where men are more likely to wake up to the sound of a fly buzzing" (added by chris_n at 07:26 PM, July 29, 2010)
13:11 druthb     @quote random
13:11 munin      druthb: Quote #49: "wizzyrea: KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 04:20 PM, December 22, 2009)
13:11 druthb     @quote random
13:02 kmkale     hi kf
13:02 druthb     hi, kf and kmkale.  :)
13:02 kmkale     hi druthb
12:56 kf         h druthb :)
12:55 druthb     howdy, #koha.
12:24 kmkale     ok got it :)
12:19 kmkale     I want to insert print statements to check barcode on values being passed while I am working on a custom itemBarcodeInputFilter
12:18 kmkale     can anyone tell me how to print debug messages from Circulation.pm to koha-error_log?
12:04 munin      kmkale: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
12:04 kmkale     munin is outta ammo
11:40 magnus     puh
11:40 munin      magnus: *click*
11:40 magnus     @roulette
11:36 munin      kf: *click*
11:36 kf         @roulette
11:30 munin      kmkale: *click*
11:30 kmkale     @roulette
09:30 magnus     sounds like work will soon be under way for a swedish translation. yay!
09:25 magnus     chris: yep, thanks!
09:22 chris      is it working again now?
09:21 chris      yep it still is, something has broken it, it was working this morning
09:19 magnus     on http://translate.koha-community.org/ "Visit Koha official web site" points to koha.org
09:18 magnus     hm, is http://translate.koha-community.org/ now the active pootle for koha 3.4? http://translate.koha.org/ has a 500 error
09:16 magnus     guten morgen kf
09:11 kf         good morning #koha
09:06 hudsonbot  * Owen Leonard: Bug 2122 follow-up for authorities editor
09:06 hudsonbot  * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 2122, Grayed out Fields not always visible
09:06 hudsonbot  Project Koha_Master build #165: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha_Master/165/
08:53 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2122 follow-up for authorities editor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c55f8ffca7337587a746ae6dda30d9c6508e3da7> / Fix for Bug 2122, Grayed out Fields not always visible <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=240ce5a31c278e86af5f3d465bdd6c011c951068>
08:45 hudsonbot  Starting build 165 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:39 magnus     yay!
08:38 hudsonbot  * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5152 - confirm buttons different styles on lists
08:38 hudsonbot  * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5037 - If patron category is empty it shouldn't show
08:38 hudsonbot  * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3013, Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types
08:38 hudsonbot  Project Koha_Master build #164: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha_Master/164/
08:30 magnus     ata marie, #koha
08:16 hudsonbot  Starting build 164 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:13 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5152 - confirm buttons different styles on lists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=61c7ba41042488577174c145c5fce677d408daea> / Fix for Bug 5037 - If patron category is empty it shouldn't show <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbb0819f0f22b9387ddc209b7f0997c3b507b51d> / Fix for Bug 3013, Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types <h
07:33 cait       ok, time for work!
07:18 cait       nice :)
07:16 chris      yep
07:14 cait       you were there for work?
07:14 cait       :)
07:13 chris      yep, that was from up in the water tower, 257 steps
07:12 cait       with the mountain
07:12 cait       I saw it
07:12 chris      very good, did i show you the photo?
07:12 cait       how was your trip?
07:12 cait       hi chris :)
07:12 chris      fredericd++ #thanks for testing
07:12 chris      hi cait
06:55 hudsonbot  cait: thanks a lot! om nom nom. I just love muesli!
06:55 cait       !hudson botsnack muesli
06:55 cait       hi hudson
06:36 hudsonbot  * Colin Campbell: Bug 4074 Fix fail to parse simple qualified search
06:36 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Brooke caught my april fools trick, its not 20004 yet!
06:36 hudsonbot  Project Koha_3.2.x build #40: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha_3.2.x/40/
06:34 cait       hi #koha
06:15 hudsonbot  Starting build 40 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:11 munin      New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 4074 Fix fail to parse simple qualified search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f50c566b88f9b5e5dac79e3381be58c9ac9f52aa> / Brooke caught my april fools trick, its not 20004 yet! <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=250ecc9bc82ef32c0c2497c3a1d2cf6516043e3c>
05:15 fredericd  very easy to test QA branches
05:15 fredericd  chris++
04:53 kmkale     bbl
04:53 chris      Np
04:51 kmkale     chris++
04:51 kmkale     :) thanks again
04:51 chris      Ill do that tomorrow
04:51 chris      The newly submitted and signed off patches yes
04:50 chris      Patches ftw
04:50 kmkale     chris can the 4440 be merged into master now?
04:49 kmkale     Although this work seems destined only for this one college it is good practice for me to make it into a proper patch :)
04:49 kmkale     ok. Thanks chris.
04:49 chris      So its actually the more important file to edit
04:48 chris      The db isnt
04:48 chris      And to be translatable
04:48 chris      Yep
04:47 kmkale     the purpose of this file is to offer the explanation for the syspref and its options?
04:47 chris      That's the one to edit then
04:47 kmkale     koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/circulation.pref has itemBarcodeInputFilter in it
04:45 chris      You might want to grep that preferences dir to find the one its in
04:45 chris      I'm guessing admin.pref
04:44 chris      they make the tabs in the preferences editor
04:44 chris      So you edit the one you want it to live under
04:43 kmkale     none seems a likely candidate :(
04:43 chris      Those are them
04:43 kmkale     :) just pasted all I could find with .pref
04:43 pastebot   "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted ".pref files under koha-tmpl" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/102
04:42 chris      Id look but id have start a vpn and that's just a pain :)
04:42 chris      Or just preference
04:42 kmkale     trying
04:41 chris      Try .pref
04:41 kmkale     these are all I can find under koha-tmpl with *preferences*
04:41 chris      Nope
04:41 kmkale     koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/css/preferences.css
04:41 kmkale     koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/js/pages/preferences.js
04:41 chris      Maybe .pref
04:40 kmkale     koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/admin/preferences.tmpl
04:40 chris      Its not a .tmpl file
04:40 kmkale     koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/systempreferences.tmpl
04:40 chris      Nope
04:40 kmkale     koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences.tmpl
04:39 kmkale     searching
04:39 chris      Better than the old way
04:39 chris      I forget the path but its a file that is used to control the display and is translatable
04:38 kmkale     oh.
04:38 chris      Under that dir anyway
04:38 chris      And the preferences file in the koha-tmpl dir
04:38 kmkale     ok. Thanks.
04:37 chris      Yep, updatedatabase.pl
04:36 kmkale     chris how do I go about adding one more system preference option to itemBarcodeInputFilter? add it in sysprefs.sql? anyhting more?
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04:32 chris      !hudson testresult
04:31 kmkale     hi Brooke
04:30 hudsonbot  Colin Campbell: Bug 4074 Fix fail to parse simple qualified search
04:30 hudsonbot  Project Koha_Master build #163: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha_Master/163/
04:30 Brooke     hi km
04:29 kmkale     hi chris
04:26 chris      Hi kmkale
04:26 kmkale     hi all
04:12 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4074 Fix fail to parse simple qualified search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b97c4dba7a183e826ac8c1b37d0261f0327f12c2>
04:08 hudsonbot  Starting build 163 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
04:08 hudsonbot  Chris Cormack: Brooke caught my april fools trick, its not 20004 yet!
04:08 hudsonbot  Project Koha_Master build #162: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha_Master/162/
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03:36 Amit       heya all
03:32 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Brooke caught my april fools trick, its not 20004 yet! <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0fa9ade9ffb48c10db40c0789fa5f5509ec63082>
02:27 * druthb   waves
02:11 wizzyrea_  hey ruth :D
02:11 druthb     hi, wizzyrea!
02:09 wizzyrea_  hiyas
02:09 Brooke     ho there
01:23 * Brooke   laughs
01:23 daniel     what's a ratbox? related to a ratbag? ;)
01:22 Brooke     pfft character limits.
01:21 daniel     pay no attention to that man behind the curtain
01:21 daniel     so mibbit takes at least a few irc commands
01:20 daniel     cool! thanks!
01:20 chris      it may or may not work in mibbit
01:20 chris      /ctcp chris time (without the leading space)
01:19 chris      try this daniel
01:19 owen       As it should be, though
01:19 Brooke     there's only one SLS and you are not he ;)
01:19 owen       Wow, I was coming close to gmcharlt for a while, and then he zoomed away again
01:19 * daniel   is experimenting with what's possible using mibbit
01:18 * gmcharlt is sneaky that way
01:15 * druthb   startles suddenly, seeing that gmcharlt is not a statue.
01:14 Brooke     !++
01:14 gmcharlt   < and ! - such hardworking punctuation characters, but they get no respect at all
01:12 daniel     cool
01:12 munin      druthb: Highest karma: "chris" (208), "gmcharlt" (203), and "owen" (174).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-71), "failed" (-49), and "-" (-30).  You (druthb) are ranked 14 out of 1079.
01:12 druthb     @karma
01:12 munin      daniel: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 39 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 39.
01:12 daniel     @karma druthb
01:12 daniel     excuse me while i experiment
01:11 Brooke     munin++
01:11 munin      druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 39 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 39.
01:11 druthb     @karma druthb
01:11 druthb     For the longest time after I changed my nick to this, munin had it in for me or something...first time, boom.  over and over.
01:10 daniel     druthb++
01:10 druthb     lol
01:10 Brooke     hehehe
01:10 * munin    reloads and spins the chambers.
01:10 daniel     this irc stuff is new to me
01:10 druthb     @roulette
01:10 munin      druthb: *click*
01:10 druthb     @roulette
01:10 druthb     hm.
01:09 druthb     :)
01:09 daniel     yay druthb!
01:08 Brooke     clearly shouldn't have done that. Left deltoid is still not on a speaking basis with me.
01:07 druthb     hehehe.
01:07 * Brooke   shakes her fist at druthb
01:07 druthb     Better.
01:07 munin      druthb: The operation succeeded.  Quote #104 added.
01:07 druthb     @quote add <Brooke> not people quoting me *again*
01:06 Brooke     the bot say NUUUUUUUU
01:06 Brooke     I am SPARED!
01:06 Brooke     yes
01:06 munin      druthb: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
01:06 druthb     @quote add <Brooke> not people quoting me *again*
01:05 * Brooke   mutters summat about only allowing Sen. Leahy such privileges...
01:05 daniel     quotable you
01:05 daniel     yerz
01:05 Brooke     not people quoting me *again*
01:05 Brooke     oh noes
01:04 Brooke     hi dere
01:04 daniel     Brooke, just ten minutes ago I quoted you on "the trip of a lifetime"
01:04 daniel     howdy y'all
01:02 * Brooke   smiles
01:02 * druthb   waves to Brooke
00:23 chris      cool
00:22 owen       Thanks chris, that looks like it worked now
00:18 chris      that work better now owen?
00:10 chris      right, pushed the fix up
00:05 chris      ahh i see the problem, bad merge, ill fix
00:04 chris      hmm 2 secs ill check that out