Time  Nick        Message
23:56 Brooke      welcome back
23:55 chris       back
23:47 Brooke      this was a good bit back, now
23:47 Brooke      nope, computer lab
23:47 jcamins     Brooke: a... linguistics lab?
23:41 robin       hi kohans
23:36 * chris     ducks out to grab some lunch bbiab
23:27 Brooke      one of my Spanish speaking lab students asked after the pronunciation of Noam
23:27 jcamins     :)
23:26 Brooke      :)
23:26 chris       http://twitpic.com/36xxma
23:22 Brooke      don't come anywhere near me house or I'll have you sort through beads for your insolence
23:22 Brooke      heheh
23:22 * jcamins   is feeling subversive today... he's watching part 8 of Man With the Movie Camera before part 7.
23:20 * Brooke    swears at having Billy Joel replace Karen Casey in her head.
23:19 jcamins     And Allentown, PA.
23:19 Brooke      noice
23:19 jcamins     Ooh! They still sell it in CT!
23:18 Brooke      warning: there are many unresolved error messages in the confines of me pea sized brain
23:18 jcamins     I like the way you're thinking. :)
23:18 jcamins     Heh.
23:18 Brooke      think I need to convince Balducci's they needs carry high test ginger beer.
23:17 Brooke      just by their vanilla and mash in some and chuck it back in the freezer
23:17 jcamins     Sadly, Haagen Dazs no longer seems to make it...
23:17 Brooke      stop teasing.
23:17 jcamins     Brooke: have you ever had ginger ice cream? It's wonderful.
23:16 * Brooke    is really starting to like jcamins...
23:16 Brooke      oooh, you're evil.
23:15 * jcamins   votes for ginger ice cream
23:15 gmcharlt    heh
23:14 Brooke      not to mention in classic Community fashion naught was decided. *duck*
23:13 gmcharlt    ;)
23:13 gmcharlt    well in my defence, I did at least call for a global taste test
23:13 * Brooke    glares at gmcharlt
23:13 chris       heh
23:13 Brooke      though I must say Galen is in the dog house for having an unannounced Ice Cream meeting.
23:12 Brooke      nuffin
23:12 chris       what'd i do now?
23:12 chris       lol
23:09 Brooke      Kia Ora
23:09 * Brooke    salutes Chris with respect
23:09 chris       hi Brooke
22:56 cait        good night #koha
22:56 cait        time to sleep
22:44 cait        hehe
22:44 hudsonbot   cait: you're so kind to me! I really like that carrots
22:44 cait        !hudson botsnack carrots
22:34 hudsonbot   Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5210, back button on batch modification result page useless
22:34 hudsonbot   Project Koha_Master build #157: SUCCESS in 20 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha_Master/157/
22:22 * druthb    corrects her own pronouns.
22:22 * druthb    heads out for some dinner with his daughters.
22:16 cait        :)
22:16 cait        okok
22:15 chris       done ;)
22:15 chris       that ones easy, is the back button gone, oh it is
22:15 chris       heh
22:13 cait        :)
22:13 cait        more things to test
22:13 cait        oh no
22:13 hudsonbot   Starting build 157 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:12 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5210, back button on batch modification result page useless <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa43573b5871f04c15f354def4954d6e70ba36b8>
21:20 cait        :)
21:18 chris       and http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/template_toolkit
21:16 chris       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Use_LDAPS_RFC
20:58 jcamins     Ah.
20:58 gmcharlt    jcamins: the meeting name (assigned by #meetingname) is now in the file name of the log
20:57 jcamins     gmcharlt: what's different about the last time?
20:56 gmcharlt    finally
20:56 munin       Log:            http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2010/test.2010-11-14-21.13.log.html
20:56 munin       Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2010/test.2010-11-14-21.13.txt
20:56 munin       Minutes:        http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2010/test.2010-11-14-21.13.html
20:56 munin       Meeting ended Sun Nov 14 21:13:53 2010 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
20:56 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:56 munin       The meeting name has been set to 'test'
20:56 gmcharlt    #meetingname test
20:56 munin       Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
20:56 munin       Meeting started Sun Nov 14 21:13:43 2010 UTC.  The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:56 gmcharlt    #startmeeting
20:55 chris_n     has munin gone power-crazy? ;-)
20:55 gmcharlt    not quite there
20:55 chris       sweet
20:55 munin       Log:            http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2010/koha.2010-11-14-21.12.log.html
20:55 munin       Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2010/koha.2010-11-14-21.12.txt
20:55 munin       Minutes:        http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2010/koha.2010-11-14-21.12.html
20:55 munin       Meeting ended Sun Nov 14 21:12:53 2010 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
20:55 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:55 munin       Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
20:55 munin       Meeting started Sun Nov 14 21:12:51 2010 UTC.  The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:55 gmcharlt    #startmeeting
20:53 munin       Log:            http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/koha/2010/koha.2010-11-14-21.10.log.html
20:53 munin       Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/koha/2010/koha.2010-11-14-21.10.txt
20:53 munin       Minutes:        http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/koha/2010/koha.2010-11-14-21.10.html
20:53 munin       Meeting ended Sun Nov 14 21:10:59 2010 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
20:53 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:53 munin       Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
20:53 munin       Meeting started Sun Nov 14 21:10:52 2010 UTC.  The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:53 gmcharlt    #startmeeting
20:53 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:52 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:51 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:50 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:49 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:47 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:47 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:47 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:46 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:45 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:45 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:44 gmcharlt    yes
20:44 chris       thats pretty cool
20:44 chris       so it changes the topic back to what it was before the meeting?
20:44 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:37 druthb      oh, okay.  just wondered if you were stuck in a loop, maybe.
20:36 gmcharlt    sorry for the noise
20:36 gmcharlt    druthb: testing something I'm doing with munin
20:36 * druthb    peers at gmcharlt quizzically.
20:36 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:35 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:34 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:34 cait        druthb: chris and gmcharlt are super heros or something - they can do crazy things with perl and don't need to sleep
20:34 jcamins     druthb: I'm pretty sure the answer to that is "no."
20:33 * druthb    wonders if gmcharlt ever actually isn't here.
20:33 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:32 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
20:30 chris       ahh cool
20:30 druthb      Fairly busy, but in a good way.  Just back from an LGBT task force meeting at a nearby church...gonna do some turning here shortly, maybe.
20:30 * druthb    nibbles on the fudge.
20:29 chris       hows sunday treating ya?
20:29 cait        hi druthb :)
20:29 chris       heya druthb
20:29 * jcamins   hands druthb a piece of raspberry chocolate fudge
20:29 druthb      hi, #koha.
20:28 chris       i still have some licorice from kohacon to eat, i shoudl find that
20:28 chris       yum!
20:27 cait        :)
20:27 cait        mmmmh
20:27 * jcamins   shares raspberry chocolate fudge with #koha
20:26 * cait      picks some fudge from jcamins
20:26 cait        jcamins_a: I am really glad - you can't leave me alone with marc analytics :)
20:26 jcamins_a   cait: you'll be glad to know I survived being bombarded by fudge
20:00 chris       slef++ # for the wiki tidyup
20:00 chris       figured :)
19:59 gmcharlt    it's crashing at that point, in case you're wondering
19:58 chris       heh
19:56 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
19:55 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
19:55 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
19:54 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
19:53 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
19:53 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
19:52 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
19:51 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
19:51 munin       gmcharlt: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
19:51 gmcharlt    #startmeeting
19:51 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
19:51 munin       gmcharlt: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
19:51 gmcharlt    #startmeeting
19:49 * chris     will brb
19:47 chris       before we do a real meeting with it anyway ;)
19:47 chris       doh too late
19:47 chris       #idea we should have a practice meeting and invite people to learn the commands
19:47 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
19:47 gmcharlt    #action finish meeting and check results
19:46 gmcharlt    #link http://debian.org/
19:46 gmcharlt    #info only a test
19:46 gmcharlt    #topic testing MeetBot configuration
19:46 munin       The meeting name has been set to 'test_meeting'
19:46 gmcharlt    #meetingname test meeting
19:46 munin       Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
19:46 munin       Meeting started Sun Nov 14 20:03:50 2010 UTC.  The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:46 gmcharlt    #startmeeting
19:32 brendan_l   :)
19:32 chris       once again debian ftw!
19:32 chris       once people learn the commands
19:32 chris       wow, that is pretty cool
19:31 chris       antisirk pointed it out to me, it looks pretty nifty
19:31 chris       cool
19:31 gmcharlt    yep, I'd need to configure it a bit
19:31 gmcharlt    http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2010/koha.2010-11-14-19.41.html
19:31 chris       hmm, whats the full url for that i wonder?
19:29 munin       Log:            koha/2010/koha.2010-11-14-19.41.log.html
19:29 munin       Minutes (text): koha/2010/koha.2010-11-14-19.41.txt
19:29 munin       Minutes:        koha/2010/koha.2010-11-14-19.41.html
19:29 munin       Meeting ended Sun Nov 14 19:46:54 2010 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
19:29 gmcharlt    #endmeeting
19:29 gmcharlt    #action hold a global taste test to determine the best flavor
19:28 gmcharlt    #link http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot to see what this pseudo-meeting is all about
19:27 gmcharlt    #info there is no consensus on the best flavor of ice cream - we should fix this bug
19:26 cait        #agreed
19:25 chris       #idea hey, we should use this
19:25 gmcharlt    #topic determine, once and for all, the One True Flavor of ice cream
19:24 richard     very cool
19:24 cait        ... :)
19:24 cait        yay!
19:24 gmcharlt    #topic determine, once and for all, the One True Flavor of ice cream
19:23 chris       yay!
19:23 munin       Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
19:23 munin       Meeting started Sun Nov 14 19:41:12 2010 UTC.  The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:23 gmcharlt    #startmeeting
19:23 richard     hi
19:22 munin       gmcharlt: Error: "startmeeting" is not a valid command.
19:22 gmcharlt    @startmeeting
19:17 chris       hehe
19:16 cait        :)
19:16 cait        I am sure I have still my pokemon league medals somewhere...
19:15 cait        hehe
19:13 chris       i choose you, pikachu
19:13 chris       hehe
19:11 cait        I know some of my friends would have loved to see the pikachu
19:10 cait        sounds like fun :)
19:09 chris       kids love it though
19:09 chris       we had pikachu, darth vader, dora the explorer, sponge bob etc
19:08 chris       its a very random parade
19:08 chris       santa parade? fun
19:08 cait        how was the santa something?
19:08 cait        hey chris
19:04 chris       heya cait
18:57 * cait      wants access to jcamins' fridge...
18:51 jcamins_a   I'll probably be back in an hour.
18:49 jcamins     Plus, I have five dozen biscuits taking all available cooling space.
18:49 jcamins     Because if I try to stuff any more baked goods in my freezer, it's going to throw a fit and start flinging fudge at me. :)
18:49 cait        why not bake cookies?
18:49 cait        knit?
18:48 jcamins     I think I'm going to go sit in the other room and knit now, because I'm accomplishing nothing in here. :(
18:48 jcamins     cait: take your time.
18:47 cait        and hi chris and wasabi
18:47 cait        jcamins: will try to work on it in the mornings this week
18:47 cait        jcamins: I have a draft - but nothing ready to show you :(
18:46 * jcamins   suddenly realizes that chris was talking about his weekend, not his seminar preparations
18:31 jcamins     chris: I think you have rather more practice delivering seminars than I do.
18:29 chris       Hey wasabi
18:29 * wasabi    waves
18:22 chris       Well mine is done, on the bus to work
18:22 chris       Hehe
18:20 * jcamins   still hasn't made any real progress on his seminar preparations, nor written any papers on the collation of Avant-Garde books, so... probably better not to ask. ;)
18:20 chris       How's the weekend going?
18:18 jcamins     Morning.
18:16 chris       Morning
15:50 druthb      hi, hdl.  :)
15:39 druthb      pooor cait!
15:38 munin       jcamins: *click*
15:38 jcamins     @roulette
15:38 cait        why am i not surprised munin?
15:38 * munin     reloads and spins the chambers.
15:38 munin       *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
15:38 cait        @roulette
15:37 * druthb    has one more picture to get cropped and up, and then that little chore will be finished...
15:35 munin       druthb: Quote #49: "wizzyrea: KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 11:20 AM, December 22, 2009)
15:35 druthb      @quote random
15:34 druthb      hee hee
15:34 * munin     reloads and spins the chambers.
15:34 munin       *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
15:34 druthb      @roulette
15:34 munin       druthb: *click*
15:34 druthb      @roulette
15:34 munin       druthb: *click*
15:34 druthb      @roulette
15:32 munin       cait: Quote #95: "< robin> to be honest, I think if you mention Koha and Perl, your CV could say your hobbies include puppy-kitten cage-fights, and you'd be snapped up :)" (added by chris at 05:36 PM, October 06, 2010)
15:32 cait        @quote random
15:32 munin       druthb: Quote #86: "<jcamins> Oops. Don't click mandatory on subfields for tags you've never heard of." (added by chris_n at 03:44 PM, July 19, 2010)
15:32 druthb      @quote random
15:32 druthb      oh, okay. :)
15:32 cait        it was something I picked up in another channel a long time ago
15:32 munin       druthb: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 09:13 AM, June 12, 2009)
15:32 druthb      @quote random
15:32 cait        something with returned I think
15:32 munin       druthb: Quote #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon is to erm, use the belly of the hog (I think)" (added by chris at 05:37 PM, July 17, 2009)
15:32 druthb      @quote random
15:32 cait        oh
15:31 druthb      [10:45]	<cait>	re
15:31 cait        hm?
15:28 * druthb    peers at cait quizzically.
15:28 cait        re
15:17 magnus      thanks druthb
15:16 druthb      welcome back, magnus. :)
15:05 druthb      Early on, I had problems with the pencil mechanisms I was getting, so I stepped up to a little nicer brand; they cost a bit more, but I have a lot less trouble with them breaking down--almost never, now.
15:02 druthb      After I finish posting this batch of pics that I have, I've got some more fan pulls and keychains I'd like to knock out this weekend.
15:01 druthb      I've got a bunch of pencils lined up in the works--just gotta get 'em finished and take pictures.
15:01 druthb      Not much; the mechanism is self-contained, so not much problem there; the length of the wooden bits must be more precise for those.
15:00 jcamins     I guess mechanical pencils are more difficult?
14:56 druthb      I'm doing some experimenting toward some other small turnings; bottle stoppers, compact mirrors, little bowls and things, even buttons.  So far, I'm not happy enough with the outcomes to post pictures of them, but it's coming along.
14:54 druthb      Naah!  Call it "art", if you want to soothe your conscience.  :)
14:54 druthb      I can do just about any shape, in most any of the woods I work, so custom work is no problem--and I don't charge extra for that.
14:53 jcamins     Should I be concerned about the fact that I'm enjoying looking at office supplies?
14:53 jcamins     :)
14:52 druthb      I just added a couple of very slim ones, jcamins--2010-028, an olive wood, and 2010-043, in mahogany.  The mahogany is 10 mm at it's largest.
14:46 druthb      yes.  The twist pens use Cross-style refills, the clicks come with Parker gel ink.
14:44 jcamins     Are the pen cartridges replaceable?
14:43 * jcamins   thinks he needs to find a 10mm pen to see whether he could get used to it
14:42 druthb      The metal tube in the middle of these slim pens is 7 mm diameter, and the metal parts are just shy of 9 mm, so that kinda sets the lower limit on size for mine; when the wood gets that thin, it's pretty fragile.
14:39 druthb      yep.  Not as heavy and dense as cocobolo or ebony, but a decent dense hardwood, unlike cedar or pine, which are practically unworkable for what I do.
14:38 jcamins     Rose wood is really nice to hold, too. Very warm.
14:38 * jcamins   is disappointed... he really thought there was such a thing as Koha wood.
14:38 druthb      Rosewood is really nice to turn; it is very fine-grained, so you can do neat details without it splitting out or chipping.
14:37 druthb      I see I did it twice..  Thanks for the catch.  :)
14:36 druthb      lol.  Koha and Koa...it's easy to fumble.  I do it all the time on my inventory sheet.
14:30 jcamins     :)
14:30 jcamins     Brazilian *Koha*?
14:29 jcamins     I was going to ask.
14:29 jcamins     Ooh, you do use rosewood.
14:27 jcamins     My pen is 8mm in diameter, apparently. Equivalent to a size 11 knitting needle.
14:22 * magnus    wanders off to make dinner
14:20 druthb      There's one carved in Bethlehem olive wood that will be in today's batch of pictures.  Beautiful coffee-and-cream grain to it.
14:19 druthb      I have some that are very narrow; it's a little harder to carve that way, but they come out really nice.
14:19 jcamins     It's a shame that I use very narrow pens.
14:18 druthb      Thanks! :)
14:18 druthb      Facebook?  Buggy?  Couldn't be..
14:18 jcamins     Ooh, those are beautiful.
14:18 jcamins     Some sort of bug, maybe.
14:18 jcamins     Once I friended the profile, the photos showed up, even though you haven't confirmed yet.
14:17 druthb      Hm..  Thought I had pictures open to everyone..
14:17 jcamins     Oh, I see... it's a profile so I have to friend it.
14:16 * magnus    just did "sudo apt-get install koha" - that is teh awesome!
14:15 druthb      jcamins:  There are some there, yes, and more being added today.
14:15 druthb      be safe, nengard.
14:15 nengard     Will talk to u all later
14:15 druthb      The pen that cait has has gone almost all the way around the world...here, to LA, to NZ, then back around to Germany.
14:15 nengard     K boarding soon
14:14 jcamins     That's very nifty, but you don't have any photos of your work yet? :(
14:14 nengard     Hehe
14:14 druthb      Now I'm going to have to hustle, and get new pics up. :)
14:14 druthb      Thanks!
14:13 nengard     Added
14:12 magnus      nengard: try http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001741402033
14:11 nengard     Stupid fb. Mobile
14:10 nengard     Magnus link didn't work on phone
14:10 druthb      Thanks for the add, magnus!  :)
14:10 magnus      looks beautiful - and i saw caits pen which was gorgeous!
14:10 nengard     I think someone near me is eating pizza at 8:30am
14:10 magnus      http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100001741402033&v=photos
14:09 cait        I own one of her pens :)
14:09 druthb      cait's seen my work.  :)
14:08 magnus      cool
14:08 nengard     Will look when I get home
14:08 druthb      magnus:  yeah, a big one won't fit in my apartment.  :)
14:08 druthb      Not at the moment; I've got a bunch up on a page on Facebook (Trans-Formed Woodworks).  I'm adding about 25 more today.  :)
14:08 magnus      druthb: do you have a mini lathe for that?
14:08 nengard     Cool. Do u have an etsy store?
14:07 druthb      I turn wood-barrelled pens and mechanical pencils, keychains, fan pulls, small stuff, mostly.
14:07 nengard     Hehe
14:07 magnus      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodturning
14:07 jcamins     Oh, I'm glad to see that Nylink got the tenses in your bio right. :)
14:07 nengard     Oh! Never heard of it
14:06 druthb      Someone who takes bits of wood, and puts them on the lathe, and makes round things out of them.
14:06 nengard     Hehe
14:06 magnus      who knows? :-)
14:06 nengard     What is a woodturner?
14:06 jcamins     I'm not sure that Koha would be such a good choice for cataloging those.
14:06 * druthb    is a woodturner.
14:06 jcamins     druthb: big chunks of lumber?
14:06 jcamins     March 8.
14:05 nengard     Druthb u can build me a new shed :)
14:05 nengard     Next year
14:05 jcamins     Ooh!
14:05 nengard     Nyc
14:05 * druthb    has a different collecting problem.  Big chunks of lumber that I haven't got around to doing things with yet.
14:05 nengard     No
14:05 nengard     I forget the date :)
14:05 jcamins     In Buffalo? It's a bit far.
14:05 nengard     U gonna come to my nylink open source day?
14:04 jcamins     magnus: oh yes, people take book collecting *very* seriously.
14:04 nengard     Yeah probably not around
14:04 magnus      ooh, sounds like serious book collecting... :-)
14:04 nengard     Oh u talked about that.
14:03 jcamins     The presentation I'm planning is part of a seminar I'm co-leading with a financial planner and an estate lawyer.
14:03 jcamins     I mean, I still could, but I don't imagine you'll be in the NYC area Dec 7.
14:02 nengard     Always travelling
14:02 nengard     :(
14:02 nengard     Invitations?
14:02 jcamins     :)
14:02 jcamins     If it weren't for the fact that you'll be traveling, I'd send you an invitation.
14:02 magnus      extra bookshelves sounds like a good idea...
14:02 nengard     I have over 800 books in practically no order...
14:01 jcamins     It is. And the invitations are fantastic.
14:01 nengard     Sounds like a fun topic!
14:01 jcamins     Extra bookshelves, LT, etc.
14:00 jcamins     nengard: "Collecting Books Without Losing Your Sanity." I'm writing about the practical aspects of managing a book collection.
14:00 nengard     Magnus that is no fun
14:00 magnus      yeah...
14:00 jcamins     magnus: ewww!
14:00 cait        jcamins: oh, should do that too :(
14:00 * magnus    is trying to upgrade some 2.2.9 data to 3.2
14:00 nengard     On what jcamins?
13:59 magnus      the sun never sets on #koha...
13:59 * jcamins   is writing a presentation
13:59 nengard     Yes
13:59 nengard     I was bored and I knew someone in Koha land would be awake to keep me company :)
13:59 magnus      for android, i guess?
13:58 nengard     Andchat
13:58 magnus      which one?
13:58 nengard     Gotta say I like this irc app
13:57 nengard     Sheer tiredness right now
13:57 nengard     Heh
13:56 jcamins_a   nengard++ # for sheer awesomeness
13:53 cait        uh
13:48 nengard     Um.. january I think
13:46 cait        nengard: hope you will have a break soon?
13:46 druthb      :)
13:46 magnus      druthb: good morning, then ;-)
13:45 nengard     I don't know if I can do what I'm doing
13:45 magnus      traveling once a month is enough for me
13:44 magnus      wow, i could not have done what you are doing, nengard
13:44 nengard     :(
13:44 nengard     Then home less than 24 hrs before I go out again
13:43 druthb      me, but just barely.  Just climbed out of bed a few minutes ago.
13:43 magnus      sounds like fun!
13:43 nengard     Waiting fir second airplane home
13:43 magnus      wassup!
13:43 cait        hi druthb
13:43 druthb      hi.  :)
13:43 nengard     Howdy
13:43 magnus      hiya druthb
13:43 magnus      hiya nengard
13:34 hudsonbot   * Chris Nighswonger: Bug 5381 - Fines in notices prints always 0.00
13:34 hudsonbot   * Owen Leonard: Additional fix for Bug 4423 - Staff Client XSLT is just a copy of the OPAC one
13:34 hudsonbot   Project Koha_3.2.x build #38: SUCCESS in 20 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha_3.2.x/38/
13:13 hudsonbot   Starting build 38 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:04 munin       New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5381 - Fines in notices prints always 0.00 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da2ea4a4d9fed854978b66b6deaa11076e4a2cd3> / Additional fix for Bug 4423 - Staff Client XSLT is just a copy of the OPAC one <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=26c368fc8fd42efa5b4041b58f4c8eeff4199841>
12:09 magnus      hehe
12:09 cait        you know, we librarians like it tidy and organized ;)
12:08 cait        thx
12:07 * cait      blushes
12:07 magnus      cait++ # for rebasing patches, getting them into master and closing bugs
12:06 robin_      byebye!
12:06 magnus      sleep tight, robin_
12:06 magnus      that would be finnish, yes
12:05 robin_      anyway, ik zal later zie je. I really should sleep now.
12:05 robin_      If not, assume I was talking about one that is :)
12:05 robin_      (I'm pretty sure it's Finnish that is quite unlike any other language nearby)
12:04 robin_      doesn't stop it from being mad.
12:04 magnus      i think i would recognize finnish, though
12:00 robin_      (Or, if you have, maybe it sounded like Finnish, or something equally mad)
12:00 magnus      lots of different "versions"
12:00 magnus      that's the fun part
11:58 robin_      I guess you haven't met Glaswegian. I know it's the same language, but I can't understand it at all.
11:57 magnus      hehe english is fun
11:57 cait        hmpf
11:55 robin_      I was slowing down for your benefit :) I can talk to locals so that it's not understood by English-as-a-second-language people quite happily :)
11:54 robin_      haha
11:54 cait        to be fair, I could understand you most of the time
11:54 robin_      and it's only Reed who can't understand my English (that's what I keep saying to myself, anyway), and he's American, so he has an excuse ;)
11:54 cait        yep, lots of languages
11:53 magnus      sorry bout that - europe is a small area with lots of languages... ;-)
11:53 robin_      :)
11:53 robin_      it means "goodnight" in Nederlands. You people...
11:53 magnus      Welterusten = good night, according to teh googlez
11:52 cait        so no change if he speaks nz english or dutch
11:52 cait        ok
11:52 magnus      welterusten - i have no idea...
11:51 robin_      (cait: het Nederlands is _right beside_ you)
11:50 * cait      whispers to magnus: what did he say?
11:50 robin_      dankje
11:50 cait        gute nacht robin :)
11:49 robin_      Welterusten, y'all :)
11:48 cait        :)
11:45 robin_      (which is the only other language I come close to knowing anything about, aside from English and Māori)
11:45 magnus      probably
11:45 robin_      magnus: and Dutch
11:44 magnus      "ja" - another norwegian (and german) word!
11:43 cait        :)
11:41 robin_      ja, soon I should sleep :)
11:40 magnus      cheers, mate! ;-)
11:40 cait        wow right, it's 1 am for you
11:39 robin_      it's past midnight and I've had a few beers, never a good time for bug fixing.
11:39 * cait      shakes head
11:39 cait        and made him learn norwegian
11:39 cait        magnus: now you have distracted him from fixing koha bugs
11:39 magnus      ;-)
11:38 * robin_    is learning
11:38 robin_      ah, now I understand svartmetal :)
11:37 robin_      oh yeah, dimmu borgir
11:36 magnus      yeah ;-)
11:36 robin_      magnus: that is awesome
11:36 * robin_    looks
11:36 robin_      magnus: emperor, mayhem, theatre of tragedy, that sort of thing
11:35 magnus      robin_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWmBRhVHOhg ;-)
11:34 cait        hm, and sekjal++
11:34 cait        robin++ and a cookie for fixing the internal note
11:33 cait        but robin's patch will fix that
11:33 * cait      sighs
11:33 cait        magnus: it' me - I confused public and internal notes...
11:32 cait        ohoh
11:31 magnus      robin_: ooh, svartmetall?
11:31 robin_      magnus: indeed, even if I'm not a fan of classical. I tend to like the Norwegian metal ;)
11:30 cait        that would be nice - thank you1
11:30 magnus      robin_: yet another reason to like naxos, then ;-)
11:30 magnus      cait: i can test on head.bibkat.no
11:28 cait        robin_: cool :)
11:28 * cait      gets more and more confused
11:28 cait        hm, I don't even see it on the items tab
11:26 cait        I don't see the public note
11:26 cait        magnus: do you have an up to date master and can test 4924 for me?
11:26 robin_      *caused
11:26 robin_      in the past couple of years, they've cause the biggest number of improvements.
11:25 robin_      https://launchpad.net/emusicj <-- all the source lives here
11:25 magnus      cool!
11:25 robin_      magnus: they pay me to make customisations for them
11:24 magnus      with support from naxos?
11:24 magnus      cool
11:23 robin_      http://www.kallisti.net.nz/EMusicJ/HomePage/ <-- this is an app I write
11:23 robin_      magnus: :)
11:23 robin_      ah, (in a former life) we had tomcat issues, solved them by moving to Glassfish.
11:22 magnus      sorry, i just couldn't let the opportunity pass me by...
11:22 cait        tomcat doesn't like me - always get it to die on me
11:22 robin_      I use it for a desktop app I develop.
11:22 cait        robin_: you like java?
11:21 robin_      magnus: no talking smack about Java, tyvm :)
11:21 robin_      cait: then I suspect Learning is the best place to begin.
11:21 magnus      hey robin_! ;-)
11:21 robin_      magnus: hey!
11:21 cait        not if you have more courses ahead
11:21 magnus      *hides*
11:21 magnus      forgetting java is a good thing...
11:20 cait        I lack practice - I learned java basics for my distance study courses - but I have already forgotten most of it :(
11:20 robin_      heh yes
11:20 cait        as always :)
11:20 robin_      I learned from "Programming Perl", which is a bit deep-endish if you haven't done much programming before.
11:20 cait        yeah, I like how it is written - it's a time problem
11:19 cait        hi robin
11:19 robin_      cait: I've heard good things about "Learning Perl"
11:18 magnus      ah...
11:18 cait        :)
11:18 cait        I was refering to the "learning perl" book
11:18 cait        yep
11:17 magnus      s/u'm/i'm/
11:17 magnus      there are some books on it, though...
11:17 magnus      i'm afraid u'm not the one to teach enyone perl...
11:15 cait        and perhaps get a course or something next year
11:15 cait        nah, I really want to finish learning perl this year
11:15 cait        ;)
11:14 cait        so you will have time to teach me perl?
11:14 cait        :)
11:14 magnus      nah, but i will have fewer projects on the side (of koha) at least
11:14 cait        I think things will be different, but we should not dream about more time ;)
11:13 cait        magnus: hm not sure about that
11:13 magnus      hope it will get better in 2011 though
11:13 magnus      nah, too much stuff that need to be done in too little time...
11:11 cait        but I thought you had a life :)
11:11 cait        oh, I like this little place
11:10 magnus      hi cait - yeah, and you too? ;-)
11:10 cait        spending your weekend at #koha? :)
11:10 cait        hi magnus
10:14 cait        hi #koha :)
09:34 hudsonbot   * Chris Nighswonger: Bug 5381 - Fines in notices prints always 0.00
09:34 hudsonbot   * Owen Leonard: Additional fix for Bug 4423 - Staff Client XSLT is just a copy of the OPAC one
09:34 hudsonbot   Project Koha_Master build #156: SUCCESS in 20 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha_Master/156/
09:19 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5381' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b46970695fcf03fecddc829263040872e6ce19a7> / Bug 5381 - Fines in notices prints always 0.00 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c1463e72554639e2f913d335d6008b2fa912dbb9>
09:13 hudsonbot   Starting build 156 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:09 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: Additional fix for Bug 4423 - Staff Client XSLT is just a copy of the OPAC one <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a2698237875b8481e14e6890388fe618081b4d1>
09:06 * bigbrovar oh well time to go get a life
09:06 bigbrovar   well I guess documentation could be better. I don't have a deep knowledge of linux or even LMS but we have a working koha 3.0.6  which I installed from source using docs
09:04 * chris     has to go to sleep now
09:04 chris       hmm not sure what you did, but we run a bunch of libraries using the packages
09:04 bigbrovar   its just a labour of love for a local school library here its really frustrating
09:03 bigbrovar   trying to fix the problem showed many things where missing from the installation and I had to create them manually and now the system is completely broken it wont even show opac
09:02 bigbrovar   only to find searching doesnt work and then zebraserv was not running
09:02 bigbrovar   chris: the painful part was all this happened after I had read the 360 package manual and setup system preferences, libraries, item tyoe etc and imported marc. and even spoend the whole of yesterday doing css and branding work on opac
09:00 bigbrovar   when I tried to index i gave some errors
09:00 bigbrovar   I realy dont know what went wrong with my install then. I followed the guide to the letter but i found zebreserve wont start and some directories were not created
08:55 chris       but if you want to learn koha, installing from source is good
08:54 chris       we use the debian packages
08:53 chris       bigbrovar: the squeeze packages do install the init.d script
08:40 bigbrovar   squeeze
08:40 bigbrovar   on debian
08:39 bigbrovar   anyone knows of a good documentation on how to install koha 3.2 from scratch?
08:39 * bigbrovar gosh this is soo frustrating as I watch 2 weeks work go down the drain
08:30 bigbrovar   guess I would have to start everything from scratch :(
07:24 bigbrovar   brendan: could u please pastebin me a copy of your zebradaemon init script so I could modify for my server. or is it safe to use ( and modify) the one I have on ubuntu 8.04 Koha 3.0.6
07:10 bigbrovar   wasabi: Yeah I really regret not just installing from source. Ihave had to manually create many things which should have been setup doing install.
07:09 wasabi      bigbrovar:  it s only difficult the *1st* time :)
07:08 wasabi      fyi: ive yet to try out the squeeze-koha deb install, so im not much help
07:08 bigbrovar   to think it would have been easier installing koha with a simple apt-get install I could have just gone the *hardway* and installed from source
07:07 wasabi      heya brendan :)
07:06 bigbrovar   but not on the debian install .. I might have to create it.
07:05 bigbrovar   yeah I have that too in our older instance of koha (3.0.6) which I installed from source on Ubuntu 8.04
07:04 brendan     yup I've got a koha-zebra-daemon in there
07:04 wasabi      232     $ sudo -u <kohauser> zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
07:03 wasabi      http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian
07:03 wasabi      http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian;h=e5c560d5d1b1b49e864fea66752cae93316ab556;hb=HEAD
07:02 brendan     usually their is an init.d script
07:02 brendan     hmm.. going to go look at the one that installed from debian - it will be a minute
07:01 bigbrovar   I also noticed it is not in the init.d script which means it is most likly not started with the system
07:01 bigbrovar   brendan: unfortunately there is no reference in the /usr/share/doc/koha/README.Debian or http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian (the wiki I used) on how to start zebrasrv
06:55 bigbrovar   I installed using the debian package for squeeze and as far as I could tell the koha user is root using that method and I followed the install doc to the letter. I would go over it again to see if I missed anything
06:53 brendan     you probably have a permissions issue or you aren't starting it with the correct user
06:52 brendan     there are instructions in the INSTALL docs
06:52 bigbrovar   thanks how do I start it?
06:50 brendan     hey wasabi
06:50 wasabi      ah… yep ;)
06:49 brendan     ah bigbrovar that looks like your zebrasrv is not running
06:48 bigbrovar   wasabi:  http://pastebin.com/FmugBkC5
06:44 wasabi      bigbrovar:  is your zebrasrv running?
06:42 bigbrovar   am using koha 3.2.0 on debian squeeze. I installed koha using the debian squeeze package for it
06:41 bigbrovar   everything seem to fine when imported marc record and added them to the catalog so it is really hard to understand why searching for items is not working
06:40 bigbrovar   This is the out put when I tried to index http://pastebin.com/hheNX2zy
06:36 bigbrovar   at first I was getting this error http://pastebin.com/32rtBm9n so I had to manually create  zebradb/biblios/norm..LCK and zebradb/biblios/shadow..LCK  under /var/lock/koha which seems to stop the error showing and indexing seemed to run fine
06:32 bigbrovar   Hi guys after importing marc records to koha 3.2 and indexing I am unable to search items both on opac and staff client :(
06:18 imran       cassandra project
06:18 imran       is there any support/activity for distributed databases with koha?
06:17 imran       Hello
06:12 bigbrovar   hi
03:08 robin_      cheers :)
03:07 Brooke      leg even
03:07 Brooke      break a lef
03:07 wizzyrea_   aha
03:06 * robin_    is making slides for his Koha-related presentation as OSDC next week
03:06 Brooke      my pleasure, sir
03:06 robin_      oh, that big one is perfect, thanks
03:06 wizzyrea_   but a decent sized one
03:06 wizzyrea_   still a jpg :/
03:05 Brooke      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/The_Koha_Logo_:_Origins_and_Explanation mebbe?
03:05 wizzyrea_   I haven't seen one, though owen might have one
03:05 robin_      hi Brooke
03:04 Brooke      ho there robin
03:04 robin_      is there a high-quality/vector version of the koha logo around somewhere I can steal?