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22:53 brendan catch you later than - enjoy that fire
22:53 brendan sweet
22:53 brendan seet
22:53 * chris_n lights a fire
22:52 chris_n evening brendan
22:52 chris_n ooooOO
22:52 brendan heya chris_n
22:52 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 8.9�C (7:05 PM EDT on November 05, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.41 in 995.8 hPa (Rising). Freeze watch in effect from late Saturday night through Sunday morning...
22:52 chris_n @wunder 28334
21:45 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 24.8�C (2:59 PM PDT on November 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady).
21:45 brendan @wunder 93117
21:31 clearsky other than changing the password
21:31 clearsky is there a way to disable accounts?
21:30 clearsky ok thanks for the info
21:30 clearsky thanks
21:30 gmcharlt clearsky: the answer is no - the expiration date affects circulation privileges, but not logging in
21:30 clearsky I just didn't know if there was a configuration someone that could change that
21:30 wizzyrea hehe, let me check
21:30 clearsky I've got database access but not access to the actual platform.
21:29 wizzyrea I don't actually, but I can test it
21:29 clearsky yeah sorry. do you know the answer though?
21:28 wizzyrea it's not an acronym :/
21:27 clearsky can KOHA stop someone with an expired account from logging in?
20:50 chobbs Must be Friday afternoon/evening - got quiet in here :)
20:42 wizzyrea yw ;)
20:42 wizzyrea \o/
20:42 chobbs wizzyrea: thanks!
20:42 munin chobbs: The operation succeeded.
20:42 chobbs @later tell cait Thanks for the help. I realized why my report wasn't working.
20:41 wizzyrea no quotes
20:41 wizzyrea type "@later tell cait whateveryouwanttotellher"
20:41 chobbs how do i tell munin to tell cait something later?
20:35 cait jcamins++ #for grep commands :)
20:35 cait good night all :)
20:33 wizzyrea gl
20:33 chris bbl
20:33 chris ok, time to deal with the kids
20:29 cait good night jcamins
20:27 * jcamins_a clearly needs the weekend...
20:26 wizzyrea gnite jcamnis_a
20:26 jcamins Good night, #koha
20:26 jcamins Time to close up.
19:57 Clearsky ok thanks!
19:57 gmcharlt Clearsky: sorry, more precisely it's a md5_base64 value as computed by Perl's Digest::MD5
19:57 cait works perfect for me, displaying on the screen
19:57 cait chobbs: select * from items where holdingbranch = <<branch|branches>>
19:57 Clearsky thanks for the quic answer
19:56 Clearsky ok thats interesting, the table I'm looking at has all 22 character hashes
19:56 gmcharlt Clearsky: it's just an MD5 hash
19:56 Clearsky I"m writing an app in PHP that will need to add records to the koha database
19:55 Brooke ta folks, world of workcraft time
19:55 Clearsky can anyone tell me what sort of encryption is used on the password field for the borrowers table?
19:52 wizzyrea sorry, that might have been a bit graphic.
19:52 * Brooke knows the cat is secretly a RM.
19:52 wizzyrea was gonna say, I'd probably get excrement in my clean laundry for that.
19:51 cait I am still trying to get the report with placeholder work
19:51 gmcharlt Brooke: your cat sounds unusually tolerant ;) mere disownment?
19:51 cait ok, do that
19:51 cait lol
19:50 * Brooke needs to feed the cat before she's disowned.
19:48 cait can you try <<something>> instead of the branches version? that was what I used for the borrowernumber
19:45 cait chobbs: no items in my test database...
19:44 cait chobbs: and your report works without the placeholder?
19:42 cait hmhmhm, it did work for my report, let me dig it up
19:42 cait no, it's not working
19:41 cait wizzyrea: thats a good idea too!
19:41 chobbs SELECT concat('<a href="/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=',biblio.biblionumber,'">',biblio.title,'</a>') as title, biblio.author FROM biblioitems JOIN biblio ON (biblioitems.biblionumber=biblio.biblionumber) WHERE ExtractValue(marcxml, '//datafield[@tag="942"]/subfield[@code="n"]')='Y' AND items.holdingbranch=<<holdingbranch|branches>>
19:41 wizzyrea excel or LO will translate them >.>
19:41 cait what is your sql?
19:40 jcamins chobbs: Make them absolute links.
19:40 wizzyrea hey, i'm glad that you dug that up
19:40 cait you can have it onscreen too
19:40 jcamins That's really nifty.
19:40 cait ?
19:40 chobbs cait: However, it makes my report downloadable instead of onscreen, which breaks my pretty HTML links :(
19:40 cait I used it for borrower numbers in one of my reports, it worked great
19:39 cait was going to paste it right now :)
19:39 cait right
19:39 chobbs schuster: WHERE items.holdingbranch=<<holdingbranch|branches>>
19:39 jcamins Heh.
19:39 chobbs cait: Sorry for yelling, but that really is helpful.
19:38 cait I must be really really really tired
19:38 jcamins cait++ # for volunteering to fix all the references to koha.org
19:38 chobbs cait: THAT ROCKS! :-)
19:38 jcamins Yay!
19:37 cait I can do it, it's a nice task for the train tomorrow
19:37 cait are you going to do it?
19:37 cait ouch
19:37 jcamins Ouch. 225 occurrences of "koha.org"
19:35 cait it works for custom sql reports
19:35 cait chobbs: not sure I understand your sentence
19:34 chobbs had my hopes up there :)
19:33 cait ah sorry
19:32 chobbs cait: I thought you could do it for guided reports, but I'm trying to filter custom SQL reports.
19:30 * cait adds it to her todolist
19:29 cait :)
19:29 cait ah
19:29 Brooke grep find and replace of sorts
19:29 cait ?
19:29 Brooke clean house!
19:29 Brooke good idea cait
19:28 * cait waves to danielg
19:27 wizzyrea made it home safely?
19:27 cait hm, perhaps we need to grep the files for that
19:27 wizzyrea hey danielg
19:27 chris heya danielg
19:27 chris oh, send a patch for that
19:27 owen (which, incidentally, links to wiki.koha.org) :(
19:26 cait ah, owen :)
19:26 cait perhaps on the sql reports page?
19:26 cait but I think it's in the online help somewhere too
19:26 owen The help screen for guided reports has the details
19:26 schuster do tell cait!
19:26 cait it's easy, let me look it up
19:26 chobbs cait: what would you add to the SQL statement to make that happen?
19:26 wizzyrea hehe
19:26 * cait blames the jetlag for all her typos
19:25 cait now = no
19:25 cait chobbs: now possibility to filte,r but you can add a field for the branch code to be filled out before the report is started
19:25 schuster I had to create a seperate web page and linked those "custom" reports to a page for each school. Now I don't think that has been fixed in 3.2... anyone?
19:24 chobbs schuster: I guess that gives me my answer :/
19:24 schuster Wouldn't that be nice... dreams of the reports page being much smaller!
19:23 chobbs With that report done, I can turn to others our users want. However, most of the rest of my custom reports need to be run per school/branch. Is there a way to create custom reports that use a dropdown field to filter?
19:22 chobbs Alright, I added my new report to the reports wiki page. Thanks again jcamins!
19:11 jcamins As long as you keep your joins reasonable (and the relationships in the Koha databse pretty much guarantee they will be), I don't think you're too likely to take down the system.
19:09 jcamins chobbs: it could slow things down a bit.
19:08 chobbs jcamins: easy to crush the database?
19:07 jcamins chobbs: just don't run too many of them at once...
19:07 chobbs jcamins: Yup, I came up with something similar that works brilliantly. This is going to make it very easy to create very useful reports.
19:07 jcamins Brooke: unless the axe wielding Librarian thinks you should be, in which case you're in trouble either way.
19:06 Brooke just don't date an axe wielding Librarian and ye'll be fine.
19:03 owen Whoops, mixed up my comic universes there.
19:03 owen dating_power_girl++
19:02 jcamins owen: lol
19:02 gmcharlt depends on the thing, surely ;)
19:02 cait lol
19:02 wizzyrea rofl
19:02 owen dating_the_thing--
19:01 jcamins date_thing++
19:01 schuster chris++
19:00 schuster chris_n++
19:00 schuster yes++ on dates...
19:00 cait date_thing++ ;)
18:59 wizzyrea oooOOOooo
18:59 chris_n once per month is the plan as long as there are patches moving
18:59 wizzyrea I like this date thing you guys got goin.
18:58 cait :) sorry, we discussed today, what we will do next, and upgrading our installations is one of the next things we need to do :)
18:58 chris_n 22 Nov is my target date unless something *big* demands earlier
18:58 cait soon?
18:58 cait chris_n: when do you plan to release 3.2.1?
18:57 chris_n only pushing a needed fix to 3.2.x
18:55 cait ok, what have I missed? :)
18:54 chris_n done
18:50 chris_n quite a nice fix
18:50 * chris_n was just eyeballing that one
18:50 chris yeah, pushed that one up as soon as it came in, it fixes a nasty bug
18:49 jcamins wizzyrea: shhh. My alter-ego is trying to keep a low profile.
18:49 cait :)
18:49 gmcharlt chris_n: 363c1ca9f9392403b98f3a3604c1345320f4a8c4 is one I strongly recommend for 3.2.x
18:47 wizzyrea he has a cape made of lost pages of ancient texts, embellished with old coins.
18:39 jcamins What about a tie with my nick... ;)
18:39 * owen knows the truth is that jcamins is rarely out of his superhero costume
18:39 jcamins owen: that might present problems for me... I don't think I remember how to wear regular clothes anymore.
18:38 wizzyrea :/
18:38 * owen had better stop looking at pictures before he gets too sad he missed it all
18:35 cait mine is quite easy :)
18:35 cait I think you can figure it out owen
18:35 gmcharlt owen++
18:35 owen I think at the next KohaCon we should wear t-shirts with our IRC nicks on them in 6-in high letters
18:32 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5368 Browse Shelf link appears when no itemcallnumber <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e40b180d1de686d90caf7fd25d514b445280acdc>
18:31 chris http://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/sets/72157625236896938/
18:31 chris kristina was pretty good about naming people
18:31 chris owen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/5113926496/in/set-72157625236896938/
18:30 owen Yes
18:30 chris owen: you about?
18:22 cait no problem, but I better make a big note somewhere :)
18:20 chris_n tnx cait
18:17 cait and I have no working mails on the laptop I will take with me
18:17 cait I am away for the weekend - so perhaps it will have to wait until monday
18:16 cait I won't - but for dinner
18:15 chris_n don't stay up for this! :-)
18:15 cait promise... it's near to my bedtime
18:14 chris_n yes, in your bug
18:14 cait or still have them in bugzilla :)
18:14 cait I had screenshots!
18:14 cait I promised it worked
18:14 chris_n yes
18:14 cait is the only change biblio to itemnumer?
18:14 * chris_n wonders about his sanity at times :-)
18:13 chris_n I just wanted a double check prior to submitting
18:13 chris_n no real rush, I've put it on my production box because it works
18:13 cait hm, but coworker must upgrade first.. I will work something out
18:13 chris_n sure
18:12 chris_n if it works as we expect, I'll submit it
18:12 cait is monday ok? I have mails working on my test installations at work
18:12 chris_n that would be great
18:12 cait no idea, but I can test it
18:12 chris_n so I don't know what was going on which is why I hoped you might since you had it working before
18:11 cait long time
18:11 chris_n when I went back and looked, I realized that I should have been handing it itemnumbers anyway
18:11 cait I tested with HEAD for a long while, must not been long since it stopped working
18:11 cait hmpf!
18:11 chris_n yeah, it did for me during testing, but stopped recently
18:10 cait should have never worked then?
18:10 cait strange
18:10 cait chris_n: it was working correctly
18:10 cait and you know that ;)
18:10 jcamins Sorry, wrong window. I've got to stop doing that.
18:10 cait chris: it's not that difficult at all
18:10 jcamins 38060000038331
18:09 * chris_n was the one who wrote that code for shame
18:09 chris that needs a bunch of testing by people who understand analyitcal records :)
18:09 chris_n cait: the problem was that we don't fine on bibs, but on items
18:09 cait but had no time (of course :( )
18:09 chris_n hehe
18:09 chris http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new/awaiting_qa/analytical_records
18:09 cait funny thing is - I added a todo to my list today to test that
18:09 chris_n hey brendan
18:08 cait looking at your patch
18:08 brendan morning chris
18:08 chris_n cool
18:08 cait right now
18:08 chris_n cait: did you get my message?
18:08 jcamins Hi cait and chris.
18:08 chris_n g'morning chris
18:08 cait hi chris, hi jcmains
18:08 jcamins Just stick a backslash behind the double quotes.
18:08 jcamins Oh, you need to escape the quotes, I think.
18:08 chris morning
18:06 jcamins SELECT ... , CONCAT('<a href="/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl?biblionumber=', biblio.biblionumber, '">', biblio.biblionumber, '</a>') ... I think.
18:05 chobbs way cool
18:04 jcamins chobbs: yes indeed.
18:04 chobbs jcamins: any way to make the results of my new report clickable? Could I spit out html in my result set with the right link to edit the MARC?
18:04 jcamins Perhaps it has been.
18:03 owen I thought that had at least already been reported
18:03 jcamins chobbs: yeah, I need to A) report that bug and B) fix it.
18:02 munin New commit(s) kohagit: (MT 2985) simplify CanBookBeReserved <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=363c1ca9f9392403b98f3a3604c1345320f4a8c4>
18:02 chobbs Ne'er mind. A space ' ' at the front of my sql command was the culprit.
18:00 chobbs Any idea where the referenced log file is?
18:00 chobbs Please check the log for further details.
18:00 chobbs 1
18:00 chobbs jcamins: So when I try to create a report in the Koha interface using that SQL, I get an error: The database returned the following error:
17:52 jcamins CGI935: how are the two tables linked?
17:51 reva Just want to post that it is working fine now; I am embarrassed: It was exporting and importing between 3.0.6 that was not pulling in the items properly. But between 3.0.6 and 3.2 the export/import functions fine. I(I had two Koha open in my virtual box, so the confusion.)
17:51 CGI935 I use the system alexandria but i want to migrate to koha, and the register MARC dont use the 952 tag, the reference to codebar is in other table it is separate
17:51 CGI935 I use the system alexandria but i want to migrate to koha, and the register MARC dont use the 952 tag, the reference to codebar is in other table it is separate
17:40 schuster do you have some information that would link the item to the bib? ISBN or record number? Was there a reason when you "imported" the MARC you didn't have the 952 tag on the bib to create the items at the same time?
17:37 owen CGI935: Not an answer to your question, but are you aware that Koha has a new home page? http://www.koha-community.org
17:35 CGI935 hello somebody can i help me, i want to migrate my database to koha, migrated the register MARC is ok but i dont know the items how migrate for example the codebar
17:34 jcamins Oh, excellent!
17:33 chobbs jcamins: Duh, used Y/N for my authorised values, not 1/0 - works great! And that ExtractValue will come in handy for lots of other reports down the road. Thanks a ton!
17:33 brendan ah reading the scroll back ;) I see you asked
17:33 mib_0b800 apparently if you don't enter a due date , you can still checkout just fine, but the item won't be marked as such
17:32 brendan sounds correct
17:32 jcamins 5.1.24, I think.
17:32 jcamins Right. I remembered to ask chobbs about that. I just didn't think to ask you. ;)
17:32 brendan I think it's something like 5.1 or something like that for mysql XPATH (IRC) not totally sure though
17:32 brendan jcamins: you need a new enough mysql database to pull XPATH reports
17:31 jcamins Oh, never mind that plan, then.
17:31 mib_0b800 well i figured out my problem
17:31 brendan right now the demo mysql isn't running a new enough mysql database to report on XPATH
17:31 jcamins Did I miss some news today?
17:30 jcamins We could try it in the ByWater demo...
17:30 chobbs hmmm. 0 results. guess i better create a record just to make sure the librarians are really using that field like they should
17:29 jcamins Oh, no, it wouldn't be fast.
17:29 chobbs jcamins: not fast :-) 100K records to search
17:28 chobbs jcamins: testing now...
17:28 jcamins I never use suppressed, so I can't test that.
17:28 jcamins *better
17:28 jcamins Maybe beter to check whether it's equal to 1.
17:28 Brooke hi there
17:28 CGI935 hello
17:27 jcamins chobbs: SELECT biblio.title, biblio.author FROM biblioitems JOIN biblio ON (biblioitems.biblionumber=biblio.biblionumber) WHERE ExtractValue(marcxml, '//datafield[@tag="942"]/subfield[@code="n"]')<>'0';
17:27 chobbs jcamins: Can I guess where you're heading? Can this be pulled out of the marcxml field in biblioitems?
17:27 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2708 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Checked out items saying available
17:27 mib_0b800 owen: it seems like this is at least somewhat similar to bug 2708 but in my case no items are being shown as checked out in the opac search results
17:25 chobbs Awesome.
17:25 jcamins One which does what you asked for.
17:25 jcamins One moment while I provide you with a new SQL query.
17:25 jcamins Yay!
17:24 chobbs jcamins: 5.1.37
17:23 jcamins What version of MySQL do you have?
17:22 chobbs jcamins: Yup, we're on the same page now :-)
17:22 jcamins chobbs: no, I just combined two conversations and made a new question for myself to answer. ;)
17:22 chobbs jcamins: so items.withdrawn maps to suppressed? It seems that suppressed ought to exist at the biblio lvel. I'm referring the the 942n subfield.
17:21 jcamins chobbs: wait, you were asking about suppressed.
17:21 owen mib_0b800: I see the same thing in my test installation. "due 11/25/2010 Available "
17:19 jcamins Wait, items.itemcallnumber not items.cn_sort
17:18 jcamins You'll need to debug this, but something like: SELECT items.ccode, items.cn_sort, biblio.author, biblio.title, biblio.biblionumber FROM items LEFT JOIN (biblio) ON (biblio.biblionumber=items.biblionumber) WHERE items.wthdrawn=1;
17:18 mib_0b800 the really odd thing is in the detail view of the item in the staff opac, under holdings i have 4 listings and the one that's checked out has the status "Checked out to (student name here): due (tomorrow's date) Available"
17:13 chobbs jcamins, SQl would be terrific, but I don't see fields for that info in the biblio table
17:13 jcamins chobbs: do you mean, what is the SQL you might use?
17:12 owen-away Hi danielg
17:11 Brooke Danny boy!
17:11 mib_0b800 jcamins: no, none at all
17:11 chobbs What's the easiest and/or best way to create a report for users that show which MARC records are currently suppressed?
17:11 jcamins mib_0b800: did you get any error messages when you checked the items out to the patron?
17:10 jcamins Checked out just means that you've charged the item to a patron.
17:10 jcamins mib_0b800: withdrawn means "no longer in the collection."
17:10 * chobbs knew he brought his ubuntu laptop in for a reason today...
17:10 mib_0b800 btw, what is the difference between checked out and withdrawn, and why are items that are checked out not marked as withdrawn?
17:08 schuster Do you have any bib records with more than say 250 items attached to it?
17:07 reva Anyone has solution item records not importing from 3.0.6 into 3.2. Is the export function in 3.0.6 faulty or is it that there are issues between 3.0.6 and 3.2?
17:07 jcamins mib_0b800: so much for that idea. The Debian package sets everything up.
17:06 mib_0b800 jcamins: no, i did the autopilot debian install so if it wasn't part of that process i haven't done it
17:05 jcamins mib_0b800: do you have the rebuild_zebra task set up?
17:04 chobbs thanks all for the help. gonna get my computer fixed now.
17:04 mib_0b800 koha version 3.02.00.004 btw
17:04 mib_0b800 wizzyrea: hmm, well setting them to withdrawn works just fine but checking out does not reduce the count of available items
17:03 wizzyrea mib_0b800: index not refreshed yet?
17:02 wizzyrea owen++ for solfing chobbs's problem
17:02 mib_0b800 any obvious reasons why items that are checked out would be included in the available for loan count in the opac? i didn't see anything in the faq about it
16:54 reva I have set it to always add item records because I would like to import the bib and the corresponding item record.
16:51 reva Am I missing a step in importing item records?
16:50 reva Hi good morning. I am testing export and import functions using records in my 3.0.6 install into my Koha 3.2 (in virtual box). I can stage and import fine. And I see my bib record in OPAC search ; but the item records are not showing up in the OPAC. I see it has imported from the staff side. But when I go to edit them they always have iterm record # 0.
16:47 chobbs Odd bit was that the two issuingrules rows I changed were for an unrelated patron type, though they did apply to the default library
16:46 chobbs owen: Maybe we're just special :-)
16:46 schuster I can see this for like temporary cards - suspension in days 30 so in 30 days they have to show proof of address or something?
16:45 Brooke ruh ohj
16:40 owen I set a category's finedays to 5 and tried to check out to a patron with overdues.. nothing stopped me.
16:39 chobbs owen: Me either, but setting all to 0 seems to have solved my problem!
16:37 owen I don't understand how "suspension in days" is supposed to work.
16:37 chobbs owen: ok, going to change that and see if it has any effect...
16:36 owen chobbs: I believe so
16:36 Brooke different types of naughty, Owen?
16:35 chobbs owen: finedays is the fiel;d in issuingtables, right? can i safely set those to 0 through the database rather than delete/re-add the circ rules?
16:33 owen I'm confused. I guess OverduesBlockCirc is unrelated to USERBLOCKEDREMAINING
16:32 owen Yes
16:32 chobbs owen: is that "suspension in days" in the issuingrulestable?
16:31 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5141 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Cannot duplicate subfields after duplicating a field
16:31 jcamins chris_n: no, I think bug 5141 can be closed. After I've tested a bit more, I'll close it.
16:28 schuster sounds like owen might be on to something since those can be branch specific maybe one of the settings for that location didn't get set right.
16:27 chobbs and my mac is busted, so i'm in safe mode and screenshots are not working (grrrrr)
16:26 chobbs owen: we do for '9-12 students', but not for the patron type of the affected students (K-5 students)
16:26 wizzyrea ooo, that's a good idea owen
16:24 owen In circulation and fines rules?
16:24 owen chobbs: Do you have any patrons or branches with a "Suspension in days" setting > 0 ?
16:24 chobbs I believe that's the last beta prior to the 3.02 release
16:23 chobbs We're on 3.01.00.140
16:22 schuster what version are they running?
16:21 owen schuster: I don't think it's in your version
16:21 schuster a screen shot would be good...
16:21 schuster We have 67 schools shared and I've never seen this either.
16:20 chobbs schuster: and no charge for cards - K-12 district
16:20 schuster Is there a comment in their borrower record?
16:20 chobbs schuster: nothing checked out, no fines
16:20 chobbs wizzyrea: that is correct
16:20 schuster chobbs - hmmm seems like we are missing something - USERBLOCKEDREMAINING - what's remaining? This comes up when they checkout - is there anything checked out to them? Do they have fees? Do you charge for library cards?
16:18 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5141 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Cannot duplicate subfields after duplicating a field
16:18 chris_n jcamins: is bug 5141 still accurate in light of that earlier discussion?
16:18 owen and only certain patrons at that branch?
16:18 wizzyrea at least they're the only ones reporting it?
16:18 wizzyrea so, you have many branches (or libraries) and you only have issues in this one?
16:17 chobbs owen: it is set to "don't block"
16:16 owen chobbs: Is your "OverduesBlockCirc" preference turned on, and do you want it to be?
16:16 wizzyrea at least, it's not maintained by anyone affiliated by the community
16:15 wizzyrea yea, it's not maintained
16:15 owen koha.org is defunct.
16:15 chobbs wizzyrea: stand by...
16:14 markk btw what's the diffrence between koha.org and koha-community.org?
16:14 wizzyrea chobbs: can you send a screenshot of what you're seeing? I'm having a hard time grasping your issue :)
16:13 wizzyrea :)
16:13 markk mmmmm i c
16:13 wizzyrea they're easier to find if you make them staff types
16:13 schuster it's all about the user permission...
16:13 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x5851#AEN5851
16:13 wizzyrea they can be any type, but you do have to set the permisisons
16:13 wizzyrea true.
16:12 owen "All staff members must be entered into Koha as patrons of the 'Staff' type" That's not true.
16:12 wizzyrea markk: pardon?
16:11 markk 10x wizzyrea
16:11 wizzyrea markk, the 2nd link
16:11 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x5750
16:10 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=c5606
16:10 chobbs wizzyrea: flipped all flags back and forth and no change.
16:09 markk does anyone knows how to change/add users for the staff client?
16:09 chobbs no, we've had several from this school report a simialr issue, but certainly not a large percentage.
16:09 wizzyrea (that is to say, you're not seeing a trend of this happening, right?)
16:08 markk hi guys
16:08 wizzyrea it's only 1 patron right?
16:08 wizzyrea maybe set the debarred status and then unset it?
16:08 wizzyrea hmm. Sounds like you have a bit flipped
16:08 chobbs Correct - all flags are set to "no"
16:07 wizzyrea and you have NO account flags set?
16:07 wizzyrea is there something special about that patron?
16:07 chobbs Yes, we have rules against this category in both default and at this student's library.
16:07 wizzyrea do you happen to have a rule that's applying only to that patron category?
16:07 chobbs Yeah, exactly :-)
16:06 chris_n strange
16:06 chris_n opps
16:06 chris_n chobbs: edit the patron's account info
16:06 chobbs wizzyrea: They're not debarred :/
16:06 wizzyrea ?
16:06 wizzyrea chobbs: can you undebar them
16:03 chobbs How can I clear USERBLOCKEDREMAINING for a patron?
16:02 chris_n it does not collapse, but rather the one cloned does
16:02 chris_n the same happens when cloning an already expanded field
16:02 chris_n well even
16:02 * chris_n confirmed it here as wee
16:01 jcamins I just confirmed it in ByWater's demo.
16:01 jcamins chris_n: yup.
16:01 chris_n was that the bug you mentioned last evening jcamins?
16:01 chris_n rather than the cloned field
16:01 chris_n it looks like it expands the original field
16:01 jcamins I think maybe the new random number wasn't appended to the link.
16:00 chris_n ouch
15:58 * chris_n tries to tiptoe out of the room quietly
15:58 owen Oh damn, blame.
15:58 jcamins There's a new bug now... if you clone an unexpanded field, you can't then expand it.
15:58 owen Am I taking credit or blame? :)
15:57 owen chris_n did some too
15:57 owen I worked some on it
15:57 jcamins owen: are you the one who fixed the subfield cloning problems?
15:56 chobbs Can somebody help me torubleshoot this problem: "Patron has had overdue items and is blocked for 107 day(s)." Patron has no overdue items.
15:53 brendan demo at 3.03
15:52 wizzyrea even though 145 is prettyclose to 2
15:51 wizzyrea but an update would tick that to a proper 2
15:51 owen If they were on 3.0 it would mean they were installing a version from 2008 ;)
15:51 wizzyrea 3.01 is a long way from 3.0 >.>
15:51 Brooke thank you sir!
15:51 wizzyrea ^^
15:51 brendan will update it now
15:50 brendan it's 3.01.00.145 - that's pretty close
15:50 jcamins They're on 3.01.00.145.
15:50 wizzyrea I think the one on k-c.org is following master
15:50 Brooke unless there's a new link I didn't find
15:50 Brooke their demo is 3.0 currently
15:50 owen ByWater's is usually running the latest Git
15:49 Brooke Anyone have a 3.2 demo up and running yet?
15:49 jcamins "She is married to her husband" -- quote from an illustrator's biography. Isn't that the definition of a husband?
15:48 wizzyrea at least, I didn't catch the above and beyond discussion, if it happened
15:48 wizzyrea mostly the talk was of how to duplicate current functionality :/
15:47 owen Hi Brooke
15:47 Brooke yo
15:46 owen wizzyrea: Was there any discussion of what T:T will allow us to do beyond H:T's capabilities?
15:42 wizzyrea lol
15:42 owen Oh good I'm glad they picked the hard one.
15:41 wizzyrea probably they meant the staff client
15:39 owen Which interface wizzyrea? Or all?
15:38 brendan morning all
15:37 wizzyrea i no speak good today.
15:36 wizzyrea ...those words are english, but they don't make sense
15:36 wizzyrea there was some discussion of T:T, and there are people who want to redesign the interface. This seems like it might have interest for you
15:36 wizzyrea post kohacon... hmm
15:22 owen We should get that looked at
15:22 jcamins Huh. I have the exact same problem.
15:22 owen The downside is that I have no memory of having been to New Zealand.
15:21 owen My jet lag is almost non-existent!
15:18 jcamins So, owen, how're things post-Kohacon?
15:17 jcamins Nope. Didn't work.
15:17 * jcamins looks around
15:17 jcamins Yay! It's the weekend!
15:17 jcamins owen: you mean I get a choice?
15:15 owen Or are we too, already?
15:15 owen C'mon, The US, it's up to us. Everyone else is already in the weekend.
13:25 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5264 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, CLOSED FIXED, Retain additional bibliographic subfields when merging authorities
13:25 jcamins M. de Rooy's patch for bug 5264 is a big help, though.
13:24 jcamins Hm. To clarify the issue with $e and $4 relators, this is an issue even without RDA.
13:21 gmcharlt hi jcamins, owen
13:21 owen Hi jcamins
13:21 jcamins Good morning, #koha
08:48 chris thanks kmkale
08:47 kmkale Wish you all a very happy Diwali !!
08:33 chris heya larsw
08:32 kf hi lars
08:32 larsw greetings be on this channel
08:00 chris http://twitpic.com/3414ic
07:51 chris yep, whats up?
07:43 kf and good morning all :)
07:43 kf chris: around?
07:05 kmkale Hi all
07:01 chris cya, safe travels
06:54 slef about to leave... see you tomorrow/day after
06:53 slef moo from auckland cbd
06:06 ivanc see you
06:06 cait getting ready for work now, will be back in a few
06:05 cait ivanc: pm'ed you
06:03 cait still a bit out of sync because of the time difference :)
06:02 cait fell asleep in the car on the way back
06:02 cait I think it was ok
06:02 ivanc your presentation?
06:01 cait :)
06:01 cait hi ivanc
05:56 ivanc guten morgen cait
05:56 ivanc good morning #koha
05:10 cait you are flickering
05:08 cait hope you get better soon, allergies are no fun
05:03 cait hmpf
05:03 cait allergies are no fun
05:03 cait hope you get better soon
05:03 cait but now everything is ok
05:03 cait suitcase was one day late
05:02 cait good
04:57 danielg other than jetlag, how are you?
04:57 danielg hi! no, i'm dealing with a major allergy attack that started a few hours after i returned. seems like half the people around here are, too
04:56 cait how are you? dealing with jetlag too?
04:55 cait hi daniel :)
04:29 cait good morning #koha
00:56 jcamins I guess it just so happens that I was doing something that highlights a closely-related bug.
00:55 jcamins This is progress.
00:55 jcamins Hm, you're right.
00:55 chris_n I do notice that if I duplicate a filled in subfiled that the value is also duplicated
00:55 chris_n as I would expect
00:54 chris_n then add subfields to the newly duplcated field
00:54 chris_n I can add a duplicate field
00:54 chris_n I can't duplicate 5141
00:54 jcamins Yeah, I initially thought they were encoding errors.
00:53 chris_n pretty cool actually
00:53 chris_n jcamins: the question marks link to the loc marc explainations
00:50 chris_n jcamins: probably more buggy js
00:04 Genji using CCL.
00:04 Genji like downloadable (enum('y','n')) now do i sort the y to the top?
00:03 Genji hiya! how do i sort via a new marc field?
00:00 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5141 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Cannot duplicate subfields after duplicating a field
00:00 jcamins Bug 5141 has gotten worse. If you duplicate a field, you can no longer expand the duplicated field.