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23:12 robin hdl: sure, I'll pop down to L3 in a minute
23:12 hdl robin: ok we can go now if you want
23:08 robin that is certainly the truth
23:08 hdl (MARC is not really a handy format for data manipulation ;) )
23:04 jcamins Ah. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
23:04 robin and is now 1068 lines long, to convert CSV to MARC.
23:03 robin jcamins: oh, just that I have multiple fields rather than one field with multiple subfields. It's not so much MARC's issue, just that it's adding to my converstion script, which is already 90% special cases.
23:02 jcamins robin: what is your will that MARC will not bend to?
23:02 hdl I'll ask sekjal
23:02 robin cool, let me know when you're thinking of going. I'm getting tired of trying to bend MARC to my will.
23:02 hdl ok for me.
23:01 hdl still there.
23:01 robin hdl: or have you left already?
23:01 robin I dunno, IRC and food don't mix. Everyone knows you can't dissolve IRC in food.
23:00 gmcharlt let's make it a transpacific lunch-dinner meeting :)
22:59 robin I'm up for lunch if people want :)
22:59 jcamins :D
22:58 * hdl sending you a virtual big breakfast....
22:58 hdl :D
22:58 jcamins hdl: if it makes you feel any better, I didn't have lunch with any Koha people today. ;)
22:57 hdl yes. (on phone)
22:57 hdl I'll see
22:57 chris is sekjal around?
22:57 hdl that's ok.
22:57 chris ah ha
22:57 hdl they already went ;)
22:56 chris maybe you should go with mason and brooke for lunch?
22:56 chris ahh
22:56 hdl only paul as far as i know.
22:54 chris i have a meeting at 12.30 .. i think paul and you were invited to the meeting too?
22:54 hdl chris are we going together for lunch ?
22:29 munin hdl: The operation succeeded.
22:29 hdl @later tell slef http://groups.google.com/group/github/browse_thread/thread/d7230db4e8fa6adb
22:27 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/for-3.4/spelling' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0fc240e91634bc538a527b79d0fae4af96abaa0>
22:26 sekjal still need a little more logic to keep it from processing lines in the POD... probably a some kind of exit once it spots a line beginning with "=" would work
22:22 chris awesome
22:21 sekjal hoping to drop that into Graphviz on the plane ride home, and see something useful
22:20 sekjal I've got my C4 Dependencies script to recursively walk all of C4, and spit out its findings in .dot format
22:17 wasabi http://letsgetdugg.com/2009/04/19/finding-circular-reference-leaks-in-perl/
22:07 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5050 move language prefs to I18N/L10N tab <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=63536aecd95fd3634eca88196799c912d3f3fdd7> / bug 5151 removed bolded terms in breadcrumbs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a671da42a15b5c74ac5c2ca3206c875bbe2ba157> / bug 5237: Testing renewals on patron barcodes with + signs at the end <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git
21:48 jcamins Koha uses 942 and 952, but I think you could change that if you really wanted to.
21:48 jcamins Genji: you could use whatever fields you wanted. In MARC21, x9x and 9xx fields (except for 490) are not defined by the standard.
21:47 Genji hiya all.. what are available marc fields available for library's custom use?
21:41 sekjal hey, chris_n
21:41 brendan heya chris_n
21:40 chris_n howdy brendan and sekjal
21:40 sekjal morning, brendan
21:39 brendan heya sekjal
21:33 chris_n hehehe
21:23 hdl committers should make links to their websites :D
21:22 hdl oh Dancer hack :)
21:22 chris hdl: try that out
21:19 chris http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/git-hooks
21:17 chris hdl: nope
21:16 schuster by all have a great time without me... home again home again!
21:15 schuster When we had it in Plano I didn't realize how valuable that Hackfest was going to be... But then again my wife didn't understand either so....
21:15 hdl chris++
21:15 hdl actually
21:14 hdl schuster++
21:14 schuster Chris - I wanted to thank you for all your hard work in getting kohacon10 off the ground. Sorry I wasn't able to attend, but look forward to the next few months to see how 3.4 will come along!
21:14 hdl have you made any other changes before testing ?
21:14 hdl k
21:14 chris id put it in your repo
21:13 hdl in git.koha-community or in new/koha-biblibre repo ?
21:13 chris so people dont try to actually use it yet
21:13 hdl chris: ok.
21:13 chris make it a wip branch
21:12 chris you can, ill poke at it
21:12 hdl chris: should I commit a Plack branch ? Or will you ?
21:06 hdl were you part of the decision takers ?
21:05 gmcharlt no
21:03 hdl Is that you who were on the juice integration part for koha ?
21:02 hdl hi gmcharlt
21:02 hdl Have you tested that ?
21:01 hdl good.
21:01 gmcharlt and isn't particularly dangerious
21:01 gmcharlt hdl: git gc can be croned
21:00 hdl So we have to remove those...
21:00 hdl (commits objects)
21:00 hdl and rebase will create many objects.
20:57 hdl But I donot know whether i could break anything.
20:57 hdl (I know I could make a cronjob on the server.)
20:57 chris not sure
20:56 hdl chris : is there a way to do git gc on gitosis servers ?
20:54 chris yup
20:54 hdl I am rebasing on master. I think it is right ?
20:53 hdl neat
20:53 hdl chris 8-)
20:52 chris im gonna drop that out of the critical tests
20:51 chris # Error: No "ldapserver" in server hash from KOHA_CONF: /home/chrisc/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml
20:51 chris # Tried to use 'C4::Auth_with_ldap'.
20:51 chris # at t/00-load.t line 18.
20:51 chris # Failed test 'use C4::Auth_with_ldap;'
20:51 chris like this
20:48 chris yep
20:48 hdl chris : is that githook sending back the compile errors so user can easily fix the errors ?
20:44 hdl thanks
20:33 chris so i have a pre-commit hook, that runs compile tests .. can run perlcritic and perltidy too, but disabled at the moment, ill push up the branch with it in soon so you can test
20:32 chris gitmaster@git.koha-community.org
20:32 chris gitmaster
20:31 hdl (to push I mean)
20:31 hdl chris : is it gitosis@git.koha-community.org or gitolite@git.koha-community.org ?
20:01 chris_n pianohack: mostly good
19:59 larsw chris, yay, ikiwiki!
19:51 pianohack Good or bad? I've had good fast days and ... bad fast days
19:50 chris_n fast and furious :-)
19:50 pianohack How's it going?
19:50 pianohack hey chris_n
19:50 * chris_n slaps pianohack on the back and says "Howdy!"
19:48 pianohack Hallo
19:25 * chris like ikiwiki a lot
19:25 chris its really easy to do, cos its just a git repo
19:25 chris ill do my list of patches pushed each day as well
19:24 chris that should hopefully make it easier for you
19:24 chris for everything with a bug number, im pushing a branch, then merging it
19:23 chris_n cool
19:23 chris yes
19:22 chris_n chris: if its scratched off here http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ its been pushed to master and is considered stable?
19:20 chris fab thank you
19:19 gmcharlt chris: done, wip/koha-biblibre, and hdl has push access
19:18 chris http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/
19:18 chris its actually building anyway
19:18 chris i turned the irc off because it was breaking things, until they fix the plugin
19:18 chris_n k
19:18 * chris_n looks around for hudson
19:18 chris bot isnt around chris_n
19:17 chris_n !hudson build Koha_3.2.x now
19:14 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5318: fix value of r4 rank weight <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb1a7e06917f54f88278b4056893f7a4cbff323a> / remove unused template include <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8893e38c6e8b9fe0f43233163a6502932236063b>
19:08 gmcharlt sec
19:08 gmcharlt yep
19:07 chris would you be able to set up a repo for biblibre at git.koha-community.org please?
19:07 gmcharlt yep
19:07 chris gmcharlt: got a sec?
19:06 jcamins I should write out proper instructions on the wiki.
19:05 jcamins Oops, did I forget that one in my instructions?
19:04 chris http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libgraphics-magick-perl
19:03 chris install the package
19:03 markk guys ... did anyone tried to install koha 3.2 on ubuntu 10.04? there's a perl requirement "Graphics::Magick" that i ain't able to install it through cpan
18:58 chris also http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/
18:53 chris https://launchpad.net/koha
18:53 * chris regained control of the freshmeat listing
18:53 chris http://freshmeat.net/projects/koha
18:52 brendan heya gmcharlt
18:52 gmcharlt hi chris, brendan
18:51 chris hiya brendan
18:40 brendan morning chris
18:37 chris Yup
18:24 owen Are you in kohacon withdrawal chris?
18:20 chris And another group fly out
16:50 markk though it's still 7.05pm here :)
16:50 markk morning
16:48 brendan morning
15:55 markk mmmm i see ... 10x jcamins
15:55 jcamins So there shouldn't be ellipses next to the 003 and 005. Good catch.
15:54 jcamins 003 should *always* be set to your MARC organizational code, and 005 should always be the date that the record was last modified.
15:53 markk 006 is working ... apparently they'r just asking for it bcuz of the <...> not showing up anything ... btw i'm not a librarian and don't know what r these used for :)
15:52 jcamins Do they mean 006?
15:52 jcamins markk: 003 and 005 don't have any flexibility in their values.
15:49 owen http://www.koha-community.org
15:49 markk btw where can I download th 3.2.0 version?
15:47 markk yes I can ... but as far as I recall an older version did popup upon clickng on the <...> ... the librarian @ the library I installed it keeps asking me to make it work .. they have some option to set for the Arabic things
15:45 jcamins 005 is automatically filled in, I think.
15:45 jcamins markk: you should be able to just enter text directly into the box for 003.
15:40 markk should I upgrade or is there anything else I should do/check?
15:40 markk i have a problem in koha 3.00.06.010 while adding a new MARC record I can't edit the fields 003 and 005 for example by clicking on the <...> to the right of the text box. Any idea why? 008 is working and popping a window with fields to edit.
15:37 markk hello again ...
15:09 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5040 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, "Distance" misspelled in default framework
15:09 jcamins Hm. nengard's patch for bug 5040 doesn't appear to have made it in, either.
15:06 jcamins But my server is on 3.2-RC, so I won't be doing it now.
15:04 jcamins I'll try and remember to submit one.
15:04 jcamins Okay.
15:04 gmcharlt I'm not aware of any
15:03 jcamins I'm not seeing one, and I reported that bug before I had access to any development machine.
15:01 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5226 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, MARC21 field 545 missing
15:01 jcamins Was there ever any patch submitted for bug 5226?
15:00 jcamins Ooh, that's kind of cool.
14:58 tcohen }
14:58 tcohen }
14:58 tcohen window.open("http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad"+field+".html");
14:58 tcohen // avoid local fields
14:58 tcohen } else {
14:58 tcohen window.open("http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/adleader.html");
14:58 tcohen if(field == 0) {
14:58 tcohen function PopupFieldDoc(field) {
14:58 tcohen with marc authorities we can have
14:56 tcohen it's a pity there's only a pdf
14:50 tcohen jcamins, gmcharlt thanks
14:49 gmcharlt tcohen: documentation at http://www.ifla.org/en/publications/unimarc-formats-and-related-documentation is up to date
14:49 jcamins tcohen: http://www.ifla.org/VI/8/projects/UNIMARC-AuthoritiesFormat.pdf ?
14:49 tcohen i'd like to know where to find references for unimarc authority records
14:48 tcohen anyone using unimarc?
14:45 gmcharlt where 'not-small' is currently a bit fuzzy
14:45 gmcharlt owen: so far, I've been doing pull requests if for some reason a patch can't be emailed or if the topic branch has a not-small number of patches
14:43 owen gmcharlt: How do you choose to send a pull request as opposed to sending a patch?
14:30 gmcharlt but that may be a little too least-common-denominator
14:30 gmcharlt safest would probably be making the default template not have any real formatting whatsoever
14:29 gmcharlt the limitations will vary from printer to printer, of course, so can't catch them all
14:25 owen My only comment about it cosmetically is that I would probably take out the "news" heading since the title of the "item" can serve as a heading, and "news" might be too specific
14:23 owen Does the content need to have an explicit width?
14:23 owen We don't use slip printers here, so I'm not sure what the limitations are.
14:23 gmcharlt thanks again
14:23 owen gmcharlt: I'm looking at that patch now
13:50 jcamins On my to-do list is making Koha parse subfield 5s.
13:49 jcamins :)
13:48 jcamins schuster: ^^
13:48 munin jcamins: Materials specified
13:48 jcamins @marc 541 3
13:48 munin jcamins: Institution to which field applies See Control Subfields
13:48 jcamins @marc 541 5
13:40 schuster That's interesting but how do you know which one if you have multiple branches.
13:34 munin jcamins: Information on the immediate source of acquisition of the described materials. The field is used primarily for original or historical items or other archival collections. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,h,n,o,3,5,6,8]
13:34 jcamins @marc 541
13:23 jcamins Good morning, #koha
12:40 gmcharlt thanks
12:40 owen Sure, I'll take a look later today gmcharlt
12:39 gmcharlt http://git.librarypolice.com/?p=koha-galen.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1ad03732ff67415ce62233d2ae9ffcbd808f8ad
12:39 gmcharlt owen: I'd be curious to know your opinion of the styling of slip news in Darrell's patch
12:36 owen That would be excellent
12:35 gmcharlt I'm working on a post-upload hook for the public git repository to add that kind of notification to bugs automatically whenever something gets pushed
12:34 gmcharlt I'm just noting that the fix has hit master
12:34 gmcharlt I'm not
12:34 owen Okay, that's what I thought. I was surprised that you were the one doing the pushing
12:33 gmcharlt owen: 'master' is HEAD, i.e., on the mainline for inclusion in 3.4
12:32 owen gmcharlt: I'm a little confused about the current branches... When you say a patch has been pushed to "master," what does that mean?
12:21 gmcharlt hi owen
12:16 owen Hi #koha
09:54 hdl gmcharlt: around ?
09:19 hdl hehe
09:13 slef wizzyrea_: glacier lakes are pretty cool, if you'll excuse the pun
09:05 slef switch... apparently wifi did 1Mb in 20mins :-/
09:00 slef think I'll switch back to cellular if it doesn't settle soon
08:59 wizzyrea_ hrmm
08:59 slef well I guess it's good to have wifi at a vineyard at all, really
08:58 wizzyrea_ well that's not so cool
08:58 slef with misbehaving internet
08:58 wizzyrea_ well yes, that happens when your planet turns
08:58 slef dark again
08:57 wizzyrea_ heya how's the south island?
08:50 slef moo from wairau valley
08:10 wizzyrea_ yea
08:10 chris yikes
08:09 wizzyrea_ 6:40 am
08:09 wizzyrea_ at the butt crack of dawn
08:09 chris what time is your flight tomorrow?
08:08 chris awww
08:08 wizzyrea_ I almost cried.
08:08 wizzyrea_ had one last walk down by the harbor.. spud was kissing things and atelling them goodbye
08:07 wizzyrea_ hi there
08:07 chris heya wizzyrea_
07:53 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/background_jobs_tested' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8af6165f537c6324fa9184f3b0788ebf287820f8>
07:43 munin chris: The operation succeeded.
07:43 chris @later tell chris_n http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ hope this is some help for you
07:43 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'signoffs' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c52225a5990bf9afb032bde8fa6ae0ddad0069b2>
07:23 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5223, 'related subjects' should read 'subjects' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=192e148fa3b07a736323db2a61971b827714f9ba> / Fix for Bug 4261 - keyword mapping should show which framework the map is for <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c36084b29d75f644681ef0d88cb91fb1c8678fd>
05:19 kmkale hi all
05:06 brendan_l night all
03:53 hdl (was with chris)
03:53 hdl yes. ppl donot shout woohoo without a reason ;)
03:53 wasabi hdl: really?
03:51 hdl saw taht on twitter
03:51 hdl good.
03:50 wasabi i sorted my problem out today :)
03:50 hdl ok... maybe we should be in level 3
03:50 wasabi i will be able to come along too, tomorrow
03:50 wasabi ok, great
03:50 brendan_l I think sekjal will too
03:50 hdl wasabi: BibLibre yes
03:49 wasabi are the bywater and biblibre guys heading to catalyst tomorrow too?
03:08 jcamins If you're not, that means it's the configuration.
03:08 jcamins If you're able to do a mysqldump and restore, and everything works, that means it was the installation.
03:03 dafydd I'll export my stuff and take a look at that later tonight
03:01 jcamins I was just wondering if it might be less trouble for you to just install off of the new 3.2 Live CD. http://mizstik.com/projects/koha-livecd/
03:01 dafydd (with plans to expand :-)
03:00 dafydd about 30 patrons
03:00 jcamins Any patron data?
03:00 dafydd about 20 records so far
02:59 jcamins dafydd: how much data do you have in your database?
02:57 dafydd Just tried modifying BiblioAddsAuthorities, which was mentioned on the mailing list for the same problem - again no luck
02:49 dafydd updated MARC::Charset, MARC::Record, and yaz - still no luck :-(
02:37 dafydd looks like MARC:Charset was kind of old, upgrading it now
02:37 dafydd yeah
02:37 jcamins This is Kyle Hall's old VMWare image?
02:36 jcamins Yeah, that's what I thought it was too.
02:36 dafydd (tried the new 3.2 VM in Koha tools, but it didn't boot in VirtualBox)
02:36 jcamins Ah!
02:36 gmcharlt 3.0.1 specfically, I would assume
02:36 dafydd It was on the preconfigured VM for 3.0
02:35 jcamins gmcharlt: is that 3.0.x or an early development snapshot for 3.2?
02:35 jcamins I'm confused by that version.
02:34 dafydd will do
02:33 gmcharlt dafydd: other things I would suggest checking are your versions of MARC::Record, MARC::Charset, and yaz
02:33 dafydd 3.00.01.005
02:33 jcamins Also, could you clarify which version you were running before your upgrade?
02:33 dafydd crap
02:32 jcamins dafydd: sounds like a problem with your installation.
02:32 munin New commit(s) kohagit: history updates - recent releases <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b3fa9e36d3961c384463a78c395185d9f6be3aee> / bug 5327: follow-up to fix SIP tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fd5071e67ea6f3de9e56ff7532ee2fe814e5365> / Bug 5327: More basic unit tests for C4 modules <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0892a5139d68249db0c8acec03
02:28 dafydd Yep
02:28 jcamins Python cookbook?
02:27 jcamins Works for me.
02:27 gmcharlt dafydd: that one works for me
02:26 Oak \o
02:25 dafydd 2005281191
02:23 dafydd one sec
02:23 jcamins What's the LCCN of an LC record that doesn't work?
02:22 jcamins dafydd: that's really weird.
02:22 dafydd jcamins, yeah, I can import at least 80% of my stuff currently,
02:22 munin New commit(s) kohagit: History updates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81d8ff20d69f9c00fc2c4dc3041a3d95b71c562a>
02:18 jcamins_a ebegin: yes, can't you tell?
02:18 ebegin jcamins_a, aren't you away? :D
02:17 ebegin jcamins_a, :) thanks anyway ;)
02:16 jcamins_a Sorry.
02:16 jcamins_a Oh, and gmcharlt just said that.
02:16 jcamins_a ebegin: that's a bug. I think gmcharlt signed off on the patch to fix that a few days ago.
02:14 ebegin ok. thanks gmcharlt
02:14 gmcharlt right
02:14 ebegin ok, so it changes the n for a w, right?
02:13 gmcharlt ebegin: there's a recent patch in the queue that fixes that
02:03 ebegin the record.abs file seems to specify the search by digit (n) instead of word (w). ln:n:range(data,35,3) is this normal?
02:02 ebegin the field for the language, not for the date, sorry ;)
02:02 ebegin the field for the date uses the 008, pos 35 to 37. For value such as eng (english) , fre (french), spa (spanish) etc... is that correct?
02:01 ebegin just noted something strange in the etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs and I want to check that with you
02:00 ebegin hey Koha!
01:47 jcamins_a I can't really troubleshoot right now, but are you able to import anything?
01:46 jcamins_a dafydd: That's a strange bug.
01:39 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5333 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Undefined value stops import from z39.50
01:39 dafydd jcamins_a, I'm finding bug 5333 isn't just AMICUS - LOC is giving me issues as well
01:22 hudsonbot chris_n2: job Koha_3.2.x build scheduled now
01:22 chris_n2 !hudson build Koha_3.2.x now
01:10 chris_n2 seeya hudsonbot
01:00 chris_n2 wb hudsonbot
00:56 jcamins How are things in sunny CA?
00:54 jcamins Hi brendan.
00:52 brendan_l heya jcamins
00:50 chris heh
00:49 jcamins interns++ # for converting Koha to use Template::Toolkit
00:49 jcamins catalyst++ # for hiring brilliant interns
00:49 jcamins chris++ # for being 3.4 RM
00:48 jcamins I seem to recall someone having issues with that before.
00:47 jcamins Doesn't AMICUS use a strange encoding?
00:46 jcamins Ooh! Soon! Yay!
00:45 chris im hoping early december
00:45 jcamins chris: do we have an ETA on the Template::Toolkit conversion?
00:40 sekjal got it
00:39 chris sekjal: emailed to your gmail
00:25 jcamins gmcharlt: pushed two additional patches adding use warnings and authentication.