Time Nick Message 00:02 chilts he's doing well for being up at 1am and on Skype :) 00:02 wizzyrea_ for sure 00:03 wizzyrea_ the internet is amazing sometimes. 00:03 chilts heh, it is ... he's in Nigeria talking to us and we're in the same room talking in a chatroom :) 00:03 chilts weird 00:05 wizzyrea_ shhh hobbit people! 00:05 chilts lol 00:05 magnus hobbit people?!? 00:05 wizzyrea_ outside, the cheering 00:05 slef magnus: outside the window 00:06 slef some protest about Warner Bros making Nz part of Aus or summat 00:07 magnus i hear them, but don't quite get who they are or what they are shouting about... 00:08 slef magnus: some protest about Warner Bros making Nz part of Aus or summat 00:08 robin_ devel debian packages updated 00:09 slef I'm going to write with paper so as not to stress the net link and garble the presentation 00:35 nengard back online now that the skype call is done 00:36 sekjal me too 00:36 nengard :) 00:36 wizzyrea_ whew I was getting lonely 00:36 wizzyrea_ j/k j/k 00:40 sekjal oh, I think Bob is wrong about that.... I think this will be VERY exciting 00:40 wizzyrea_ heh 00:40 sekjal after 13 min of buildup.... 00:41 robin_ robin@debmaker32:~$ apt-cache policy koha 00:41 robin_ koha: 00:41 robin_ Installed: (none) 00:41 robin_ Candidate: 3.2.0-1 00:41 robin_ Version table: 00:41 robin_ 3.2.0-1 0 00:41 robin_ 500 http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze/main Packages 00:41 robin_ :D 00:41 wizzyrea_ ohhhhh 00:41 wizzyrea_ nice one 00:43 robin_ even better: 00:43 robin_ Version table: 00:43 robin_ 3.2.0-2~git20101025130816.6f80cb06 0 00:43 robin_ 500 http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze-dev/main Packages 00:43 robin_ 3.2.0-1 0 00:43 robin_ 500 http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze/main Packages 00:43 robin_ (I wasn't sure if they'd both play nicely together like that. Turns out they do.) 00:44 chilts yeah, using ~ or + between the version and your (date|gitversion|whatever) is always a good choice :) 00:46 robin_ yeah, in this case it make migrating from devel to stable easier. 00:46 * sekjal banters 00:48 wizzyrea_ hehe 00:48 wizzyrea_ as long as it's good natured 00:49 sekjal wizzyrea_: always! 00:49 wizzyrea_ hehe 00:56 chris man,bob is doing a great job 00:57 wizzyrea_ lol I cannot spel 00:57 wizzyrea_ spell* 00:57 wizzyrea_ ^^ as evidence 00:57 chris i pity the fool up after him 00:57 chris oh wait, thats me 00:57 sekjal lol 00:57 wizzyrea_ ba dum bum 01:00 cait chris: you will do great! 01:02 magnus chris: you have a great topic - it will be great! 01:08 robin_ OK, so who's coming for some drinks instead of the next talk? ;) 01:08 chris quick everyone go 01:08 chris and ill have a nap instead 01:08 cait no, we will stay 01:09 cait flew around the world to see you in action! 01:09 bengard chris: you forgot to point and say, "What in the world can that be!?" 01:09 chris hehe 01:13 wizzyrea_ ooh, drinks 01:13 bengard heh 01:13 wizzyrea_ so which one of you wants to take my ever so patient and loving husband out for an evening of fun? 01:13 wizzyrea_ >.> 01:13 wizzyrea_ poor fella's stuck at home with the kiddo 01:13 wizzyrea_ where home = our smallish (now) hotel room 01:14 chilts robin_: sounds like a plan ... then we can come back for the last talk of the day :) 01:14 chilts chris: only jesting, am looking forward to the new features 01:14 robin_ wizzyrea_: if he likes beers, he's welcome to join in. 01:15 wizzyrea_ he does like beers! 01:15 robin_ wizzyrea_: well, I expect that I'll be going to The Library with everyone else initially, but they don't have much good beer, so I'll probably move on to Hashigo Zake before too long. 01:16 robin_ <-- beer snob 01:16 wizzyrea_ lol 01:16 sekjal robin_: good to know 01:17 bengard robin_: oddly, I find that libraries often don't have good beer on tap 01:17 robin_ http://hashigozake.co.nz/beerlist.html <-- all the beers but the first two are from NZ, too 01:17 robin_ (the first is Japanese, the second is Australian.) 01:17 robin_ bengard: you're just going to the wrong ones :) 01:17 chris and we get a discount! 01:17 wizzyrea_ I like cheap beer 01:18 robin_ yes, and we get a discount there, too :) 01:18 bengard robin_: evidently 01:18 robin_ and there is no public hol surcharge 01:24 robin_ Wiki page for the packages updated. Now to start writing an email. 01:34 paul_p chris ? 01:35 chris yep 01:35 paul_p do you remember when we moved to git exactly ? 01:35 chris it was 2007\ 01:35 paul_p it's not written in history 01:35 chris july 01:35 chris when i was in the US 01:35 chris not sure the day 02:05 * wizzyrea prepares to heckle chris 02:09 nengard LOL 02:09 nengard be nice to chris ;) 02:09 wizzyrea i know I know 02:13 slef who shouted kiaora? 02:15 slef robin_: woulld you nudge me when you go for good beer? 02:16 slef depend what I've drunk / who I've not yet talked to if I'll go 02:17 robin_ slef: sure 02:18 slef robin_: tyvm 02:20 slef oops 02:20 slef I didn't meann to put chris off there 02:21 slef don't expect to see bottles of wine at the circ desk 02:27 wizzyrea is that the CORES schema or... 02:27 wizzyrea it's on the wiki right? 02:49 slef wizzyrea: yeah, NISO CORE I think, on wiki 02:49 wizzyrea ok whew, that's what I thought but wasn't sure 02:49 wizzyrea I just deferred to magnus on it lol 02:49 slef :-( prezi, time for me to get motion sickness 02:50 wizzyrea :( 02:50 slef I'm going to try not to look 02:50 wizzyrea maybe he won't be a manic prezi user. 02:50 slef anyone else find this hard to watch? 02:51 slef maybe it's just me 02:51 wizzyrea I have a coworker who finds it bothersome, but I'm ok with it 03:00 brendan_l good-night all - enjoy the beer tonight ;) 03:01 * braedon|h is up to 11:30 in the feed 03:01 braedon|h (serves me right for getting up at 3...) 03:11 slef so drinks now 03:12 magnus first day of kohacon10 done - wow the day has just flown by! 03:13 sekjal good game, good game 03:13 sekjal so very excited to start working up some bug fixes and feature enhancements 07:03 mirbolt hi there, i am using 3.06, and have removed all my items from my database, i have run ./rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b but when i search the opac i still get all the same results from when there were still items in the database - can anyone help me to clean out zebra? 07:10 CGI186 hello 07:11 CGI186 kindly some one help me i am doing hardwork previous 3 weeks i have completely installed koha 3.0.6 on fedora 07:11 CGI186 but doesnot show on webinstaller 07:11 CGI186 every time just show default appache page 07:11 CGI186 Index of 07:12 CGI186 even i have enable port Listen 8080 in koha-httpd.conf file and include /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf 07:12 CGI186 in httpd.conf 07:13 CGI186 please some one help me 07:20 hdl1 CGI186: ? 07:22 hdl1 What is the problem ? 07:22 CGI186 i am unable to get the output it show default apache page 07:23 CGI186 SElinux preventing /usr/bin such type of error 07:25 CGI186 (13)Permission denied: exec of '/usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/errors/500.pl' failed 07:32 CGI186 No one help me 07:32 CGI186 bye 09:37 cait hi #koha 09:40 * cait waves to magnus 09:41 * magnus waves to cait 09:46 Amit heya cait 09:47 cait hi Amit 09:50 magnus hi Amit 09:54 chris fever dropping? 09:55 cait not sure 09:55 cait slept until 9, was ok for about an hour, now I feel like melting away 09:55 magnus let's hope it does during the night, at least 09:55 chris i can bring some paracetemol tomorrow 09:56 chris which is good for reducing fever 09:56 cait chris: I had some paracetamol in my back, hope it will help 09:56 cait back = bag 09:56 chris :) 09:56 chris yeah, you are supposed to eat it, not put it in your back :) 09:56 cait but thx for the offer :) 09:56 cait lol 09:56 cait will try to remember that! 09:57 chris i saw you leave after my talk ... i didnt think it was that bad :-) 09:57 chris i have to leave, chris's talk made me sick :) 09:58 kmkale Hi all 09:58 chris hi kmkale 09:58 kmkale hey chris 09:58 Amit heya chris, kamkale 09:58 * chris is about to go to sleep big day again tomorrow 09:58 cait no, your talk was great 09:58 kmkale hi Amit 09:59 cait worth staying 09:59 kmkale I was wondering why chris was here yet 10:00 slef moo 10:01 chris hey slef, find food? 10:01 slef yeah, majestic was good 10:01 slef we went and had a banquet 10:01 kmkale is there any link where we can watch live stream like video & audio? 10:01 slef kmkale: no stream, recordings up later 10:02 kmkale :( 10:02 chris slef: http://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/5113928450/in/set-72157625236896938/ 10:02 chris when two debian developers meet :) 10:02 slef kmkale: the venue net link barely did audio stream for a presenter today 10:02 kmkale oh 10:03 chris http://www.kohacon10.org.nz/live/index.html <-- is kinda good 10:03 slef aaargh 10:03 slef stop talking a mo! 10:03 slef copy-paste is really hard on this 10:03 chris heh 10:04 slef got it 10:05 cait back to sleep, see you tomorrow! 10:05 chris feel better 10:05 slef ok bye cait get well soon 10:05 * chris goes to sleep too 10:05 cait thx! 10:09 magnus see you tomorrow, folks (at least some of you) 10:32 kmkale @seen druthb 10:32 munin kmkale: druthb was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 3 days, 16 hours, 45 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <druthb> hee hee...that's the weak forces of the universe...The Force is duct tape: it has a light side, and a dark side, and it binds the galaxy together. 11:50 zipporah when I try to place a Hold on a book in the Library, I am getting " No copies are avalaible to be placed on hold" even though there 2 books showing as number of copies. What is the problem? Help plse. 11:54 zipporah By the way this is the first time I am testing Koha 3.0.6 Live CD . May be I have not put in the necessary data in the MARC 21 record for the books to indicate the copies! 11:57 zipporah I am asking the correct forum? 11:57 zipporah Am I asking the right Koha forum? 11:58 kmkale zipporah: yes this is the right forum for Koha 11:58 kmkale but most of the guru's are asleep after a hard day at kohacon 11:59 kmkale zipporah: in my meager experience, kost of the holds problems stem from circulation rules 11:59 kmkale have you set any? 12:00 zipporah Let me know what I should do which part of the manaul should I look up? 12:02 kmkale zipporah: http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x3301#AEN3542 13:16 cyrixbmx Why in Koha when I have a double quote in my sentence I can not translate de sentence in my file .po? Exemple : in the file fr-CA-pref.po I have the following string : msgid "enhanced-content.pref#AmazonEnabled# data from Amazon on the staff interface (including reviews and \"Search Inside\" links on item detail pages). This requires that you have signed up for and entered an access key." 13:16 cyrixbmx But since there is double quote in the string, koha can not translate the sentend with : msgstr "les donn�es d'Amazon sur l'interface professionnelle (y compris les critiques et les liens \"Recherche interne\" sur les pages de d�tails de l'ouvrage). Ceci n�cessite une demande de cl� d'acc�s et la saisie de cette m�me cl�." 13:16 owen cyrixbmx: Have you tried asking your question on the Koha mailing list? 13:17 cyrixbmx no owen 13:17 cyrixbmx what is the mailing list? 13:18 owen You might have better luck there: http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 13:18 cyrixbmx ok thanks :) 13:30 * chris_n greets owen 13:30 owen Hi chris_n 13:31 jcamins Good morning, owen and chris_n 13:31 chris_n heya jcamins 13:32 jcamins How was your weekend? 13:49 hudsonbot Starting build 89 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:50 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Further fixes for Bug 3211, cataloging value plugin forms should be valid XHTML <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dc6f6546237e0366d2087888eea7ba6218a34dd3> 13:57 hudsonbot Project Koha build (89): UNSTABLE in 8 min 36 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/89/ 13:57 hudsonbot Owen Leonard: Further fixes for Bug 3211, cataloging value plugin forms should be valid XHTML 13:57 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3211 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, cataloging value plugin forms should be valid XHTML 14:21 owen yay, another bugfix branch can be pruned 14:24 chris_n jcamins: great... three days away in the outback without inet or phone is quite refreshing 14:24 chris_n bbiab 14:29 chris_n theres nothing quite like a reboot to blow out the cobwebs 14:37 chris_n !hudson testresult 14:37 hudsonbot test results of all projects: 14:37 hudsonbot Koha build #89 had 7 of 1636 tests fail 14:37 hudsonbot xt_author_translatable_templates_t.intranet templates are translatable failed in 21.967722s 14:37 hudsonbot xt_author_valid_templates_t.no errors in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/unimarc_leader.tmpl failed in 0.04465798s 14:37 hudsonbot xt_author_valid_templates_t.no errors in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/unimarc_field_121b.tmpl failed in 0.04465798s 14:37 hudsonbot xt_author_valid_templates_t.no errors in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/unimarc_field_110.tmpl failed in 0.04465798s 14:37 hudsonbot xt_author_valid_templates_t.no errors in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/unimarc_field_140.tmpl failed in 0.04465798s 14:37 hudsonbot xt_author_valid_templates_t.no errors in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/unimarc_field_141.tmpl failed in 0.04465798s 14:37 hudsonbot xt_author_valid_templates_t.no errors in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/unimarc_field_105.tmpl failed in 0.04465798s 14:37 chris_n opps 15:00 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 3211: fix some errors that crept into the cleanup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=391ce2b4693a98753b16980d42c3a5682660ba6f> 15:00 owen At least we've got hudsonbot and munin to talk to. 15:04 hudsonbot Starting build 90 for job Koha (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last UNSTABLE #89 1 hr 15 min ago) 15:10 gmcharlt owen: I dunno, they seem more interested in talking to themselves 15:12 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed! 15:12 hudsonbot Project Koha build (90): FIXED in 8 min 5 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/90/ 15:12 hudsonbot Galen Charlton: bug 3211: fix some errors that crept into the cleanup 15:12 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3211 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, cataloging value plugin forms should be valid XHTML 15:46 drulm How is the conference thus far? 16:18 joetho sleepy, I would guess? 16:22 drulm joetho, ah, wondered if they had the 1stb sessions, or it is tomorrow for them 16:24 jcamins drulm: it started yesterday. See www.kohacon10.org.nz/live/ 16:24 drulm Thanks! 16:28 joetho what is the filepath to user authentication? 16:28 joetho I can't figure it out yet from the table structure 16:30 brendan morning 16:31 drulm Yo. 17:01 joetho ha! /borrowers 17:02 joetho I think I should have known that without looking it up... 17:33 joetho hi owen 17:33 joetho I am here in my stuffy landlocked office, deep in the midwest, lightyears from any international border. You? 17:47 chris_n g'morning kohacon10'ers 17:59 brendan heya chris_n 18:00 * chris_n breaks out the peanut-butter m&m's 18:06 jcamins hdl, paul_p: if either of you get a chance, I'd be grateful if you took a look at my patch for Bug 5311, to make sure it doesn't break French-language UNIMARC. 18:06 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5311 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Language dropdown in advanced search broken? 18:38 chris Morning 18:41 brendan morning chris 18:41 jcamins Morning. 18:42 chris brendan: nate entertained us all with card tricks and impressions of your bird calls last night :) 18:43 brendan nice Nate++ has got great card tricks 18:43 brendan yeah the bird calls are a lot of fun :) 18:45 chris_n g'morning chris 18:46 chris Hey jcamins and chris_n 18:46 brendan do you know what bird calls he did - or do you remember any of them? 18:46 chris One was the barn owl 18:47 brendan a Bard owl 18:47 brendan that's the best one there is 18:47 chris Hehe 18:47 brendan besides a "song-sparrow" 18:48 chris Next kohacon we need a slot for card tricks and bird calls 18:48 brendan song-sparrow -- " maid, maid, maid - put on another TEAAA-kettle kettle kettle" 18:49 chris Hehe 18:51 joetho is "i-bistro" the opac front-end for... triple i? 18:52 chris Is that seriously the name for something? 18:52 jcamins joetho: that's where the engineers at Apple eat. 18:52 joetho ha ha ha ha 18:53 joetho yes, it is a real name 18:53 joetho my mac.com account is under ijoey 18:53 joetho i think 18:54 chris We have a bunch of ibad stickers 18:54 brendan yup i-bistro is iii or SD IRC 18:54 gmcharlt III 18:54 brendan heya gmcharlt 18:54 chris Want me to get wizzy to bring some back for you joetho ? 18:54 jcamins joetho: Pronounced "eee yo eee"? 18:54 gmcharlt no, I'm mistaken - it's SD 18:55 chris Ok my stop bbiab 18:55 gmcharlt hi brendan 18:55 joetho I found a bunch of s-d installations using it, but I thought iii installations could use it too. 18:55 gmcharlt that would be weird 18:56 joetho not if it is a REAL thirdparty opac, but you're right- s-d would never go for that. 18:57 brendan @later tell Nate - "who cooks for youuuuu - who cooks for you awwlllll" 18:57 munin brendan: The operation succeeded. 18:57 joetho chris: yes? 18:57 brendan that's the Bard owl call :) #just incase anyone was interested 18:57 joetho i mean "yes!" 18:58 joetho I see the conference is off to a very serious start. 18:58 joetho Excellent! 18:58 jcamins LJ is doing their annual movers and shakers piece, I see. 18:59 jcamins Has chris been featured yet? 19:00 jcamins :) 19:04 brendan here's a vermont librarian that uses koha --> http://www.libraryjournal.com/csp/cms/sites/LJ/LJInPrint/MoversAndShakers/profiles2010/moversandshakerschase.csp 19:07 brendan I don't think chris has been featured - but jo was this year 19:38 jcamins Whoops. 19:40 brendan morning NZ kohacon10 19:44 nengard morning #koha - has anyone gotten the ceiling due date to work right? 19:52 cait good morning :) 19:52 richard hi cait 19:53 * chris_n hates it when people send their passwords to the list :-P 19:53 jcamins cait: you made it all the way to NZ, just to be struck down by fever? :( 19:54 cait jcamins: yeah, yesterday was bad, today I am almost back to normal and at the conference now 19:54 cait jcamins: really hope it's gone 19:55 jcamins Me too! 19:55 jcamins Is someone else responding to Kevin Jones, or should I? 19:55 * braedon|h was going to 19:56 braedon|h but go ahead 19:56 jcamins Yay! 19:56 jcamins braedon|h++ 19:57 braedon|h ... does that mean i should? 19:57 jcamins Yes please. :D 19:58 hdl cait: glad you recovered. 19:59 cait thx hdl 19:59 * chris_n responded 19:59 chris_n opss 20:00 chris_n poor fellow... what a way to end an already bad day 20:00 braedon|h braedon|h-- 20:00 munin braedon|h: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. 20:01 braedon|h (chris_n got there before me) 20:01 chilts is twitter broken? or just my wi-fi 20:01 braedon|h wait, i can't decrease me own karma? 20:01 chris_n ouch... munin is handing out hand-smacks now days 20:01 braedon|h hmm 20:01 braedon braedon|h-- 20:01 wizzyre-1 chilts I'm not having trouble, but I have a client 20:02 chris_n bbl 20:02 chilts wizzyrea: ok thanks, I'll try reloading :) 20:02 chilts (again) 20:03 jcamins chris_n: do the instructions on kohadocs.org even work? 20:03 jcamins That's for Koha 2.2.7. 20:04 wizzyrea another erm, ptfs asset. Wonder if they know they own it 20:04 jcamins I was just reflecting on that question. 20:05 jcamins Well, that and the question "what on earth is that," but you answered that question for me. 20:05 wizzyrea at least, it was an old liblime asset 20:06 jcamins Yeah, it was transferred to PTFS. 20:06 jcamins Heh. I like the phone number. 20:06 wizzyrea ? 20:07 jcamins +1.9999999999 :) 20:07 jcamins From the WHOIS. 20:07 wizzyrea heh 20:07 wizzyrea flip it over and it gets much more sinister >.> 20:30 wizzyrea jcamins: slef just gave a recipe for oat shortbreads, the cooperative cookie 20:30 wizzyrea ^^ awesome 20:30 jcamins Cool! 20:31 chilts damn, I can't find the recipe 20:31 wizzyrea hehe 20:31 wizzyrea we'll ask him for it 20:31 chilts yup :) 20:32 jcamins Time to close up shop. 20:32 jcamins Good night, #koha 20:32 wizzyrea gnite jcamins 20:32 jcamins Enjoy all the Kohacon awesomeness. 20:32 wizzyrea :) 21:56 chilts this talk is awesome :) 21:56 chilts I always like listening to MarkO 21:59 wizzyrea does anyone else smell menthol? 21:59 * wizzyrea is worried she's having a stroke 21:59 wizzyrea (not literally) 22:04 cait wizzyrea: my guess would be someone with menthos near to you? 22:05 wizzyrea maybe 22:10 slef amen! 3m-rfid-sip-nyaargh 22:10 wizzyrea heh 22:10 wizzyrea if we can get the special characters to work it'll be about perect 22:10 slef we have rfid working but 3m-sip is, erm, intersting 22:10 wizzyrea well for NEKLS anyway 22:11 wizzyrea same 22:11 wizzyrea RFID isn't really a challenge, it's the damn SIP that needs work. (pardon) 22:11 slef we're on the sip 3.0 dev list but meeting times suck 22:11 slef tips onwhat needs work in sip 3? 22:12 slef oh and any funding we can access? 22:12 wizzyrea ^ that I might have 22:12 cait don't scare me - our new customer is looking at 3m for rfid 22:12 wizzyrea we're about to issue a rfp for our ISP work 22:12 wizzyrea SIP even 22:13 slef mail me about sip stuff... I will do some of their meetings after I get home 22:15 wizzyrea will do 22:15 slef [off] one lib we couldn't hack it, handed over to ptfs as they said they could... yeah: nah, sip is like poke with pointy stick til it works stuff, 1980s comp engineering 22:16 sekjal I like the idea of a centralized place for Koha users to contribute ratings, reviews and anonymized circ data 22:16 sekjal opt in, of course 22:17 sekjal add in some bibliographic records, too. 22:17 sekjal open it up to anyone, Koha user or not 22:17 sekjal either by establishing a data standard, or using one that's already created 22:17 sekjal expand it far enough, we could have an open-source bX replacement 22:18 slef popcon from debian already exists 22:18 slef popcon.debian.org for output IIRC 22:20 wizzyrea sekjal: sounds like a project for OCLC (or not...lol) 22:20 wizzyrea I thought, and then I thought again, and then I thought again. 22:22 cait slef: one of our libraries already use rfid/sip with equipment from a German vendor - works great 22:22 sekjal its a bigger project than Koha, for sure, and not trivial. I'd love to help with it, but there is that pesky issue of time 22:22 cait slef: there is only one problem: books with reserves don't go into a status, where they can't be checked out by another user 22:22 darling robin, you getting one of those tablets? 22:23 cait slef: so this is the only real problem they have right now. 22:23 rhcl sekjal: was our SIP hard to cfg? 22:23 sekjal rhcl: not terribly, no 22:24 wizzyrea but you're not transiting holds and such 22:25 wizzyrea slef: what things about SIP are causing you consternation? 22:25 cait wizzyrea: right, a one branch library :) 22:27 wizzyrea the things that cause us consternation are actually the way that koha processes the data coming from the sip server, not as much the sip server itself 22:28 wizzyrea though the thing where it crashes when you throw any in do special character at it is definitely a consternation 22:28 wizzyrea and needs to be fixed. 22:29 wizzyrea I think I've seen this guy before... on a TED talk 22:29 wizzyrea am I crazy? 22:29 cait really want an answer? :) 22:29 wizzyrea right, the interwebs. 22:29 wizzyrea on it 22:31 slef wizzyrea: compatibility between vendors, but rfid is more to blame 22:31 wizzyrea hrm, no doesn't look like it's him... checking someplace else 22:32 slef wizzyrea: the sip stuff just doesn't explain why it errors properly. so we'll try to get richer errors in sip 3 23:02 hdl1 slef: and sip stuff is coming also from combined efforts with evergreen 23:03 hdl1 what is tough in sip is localisation and dates display