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00:02 darling     more tourist info -- http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/4263189/Tourists-avoid-court-by-getting-dirty
00:05 hudsonbot   Starting build 77 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:05 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: remove a couple duplicate lines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e9a72301b2e5b3e490a5f356327e10d9cd8e1bd> / (bug 3536) fix homeorholdingbranch on return <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=45604b8d17e05adb98a98a8a2184bd290f72997a>
00:10 robin       $ ls -lrth /var/cache/pbuilder/result/*3.2.0*deb
00:10 robin       -rw-r--r-- 1 robin robin 28M Oct 22 13:13 /var/cache/pbuilder/result/koha-common_3.2.0-1_all.deb
00:10 robin       -rw-r--r-- 1 robin robin 21K Oct 22 13:13 /var/cache/pbuilder/result/koha_3.2.0-1_all.deb
00:10 robin       yay, it works :)
00:15 hudsonbot   Project Koha build (77): SUCCESS in 10 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/77/
00:15 hudsonbot   * Henri-Damien LAURENT: (bug 3536) fix homeorholdingbranch on return
00:15 hudsonbot   * Galen Charlton: remove a couple duplicate lines
00:15 masonj      robin++ !!
00:25 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: remove two disused functions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=49e13b94174f173e17bafb595ca31da99a2d3864>
00:34 hudsonbot   Starting build 78 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:42 hudsonbot   Project Koha build (78): SUCCESS in 7 min 43 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/78/
00:42 hudsonbot   Galen Charlton: remove two disused functions
01:08 jcamins     gmcharlt++ # for removing some of the functions that were confusing me
01:17 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: bug 3756: remove more references to disused sysprefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5bd8e829ae5e961fd5c69fcd8e23576b11a09fef> / remove last vestiges of NOTMARC mode <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0fedbab3c00eff8753ee9641bb1ebf3da0c641c> / bug 3756: start removing references to disused sysprefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h
01:19 hudsonbot   Starting build 79 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:20 brendan_2   @later tell Nate chat me up when you get back I'm around
01:20 munin       brendan_2: The operation succeeded.
01:27 hudsonbot   Project Koha build (79): SUCCESS in 7 min 49 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/79/
01:27 hudsonbot   * Galen Charlton: bug 3756: start removing references to disused sysprefs
01:27 hudsonbot   * Galen Charlton: remove last vestiges of NOTMARC mode
01:27 hudsonbot   * Galen Charlton: bug 3756: remove more references to disused sysprefs
01:27 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3756 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, new sys prefs - no way to add a new local use preference
01:34 hudsonbot   Starting build 80 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:39 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: Update changelog and build script in preperation for 3.2.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=383ad2ed6998b5a8d7cc92b8a8f01aab98febd9e> / bug 4176: remove references to unimplemented system preference MIME <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b49a0a30a15ea416bbf4e01d23d3db1e4e21ea0f>
01:42 hudsonbot   Project Koha build (80): SUCCESS in 7 min 48 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/80/
01:42 hudsonbot   * Galen Charlton: bug 4176: remove references to unimplemented system preference MIME
01:42 hudsonbot   * Robin Sheat: Update changelog and build script in preperation for 3.2.0 release
01:42 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4176 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, MIME missing from sys prefs interface
01:49 hudsonbot   Starting build 81 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:49 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: bug 3756: remove disused system preference from database <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e54910dfe2b649b724db380218a9e6a5546dd7c8>
01:57 hudsonbot   Project Koha build (81): SUCCESS in 7 min 48 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/81/
01:57 hudsonbot   Galen Charlton: bug 3756: remove disused system preference from database
01:57 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3756 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, new sys prefs - no way to add a new local use preference
02:01 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: fixing various links to point to *.koha-community.org <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce5e2429db712951724156c8c7bc7a417bd4d42d>
02:04 hudsonbot   Starting build 82 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:11 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: bug 3881: remove unused OpacPrivacy syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dcbcf8815cf6702d9120700c35a88d5ae3946a08>
02:13 hudsonbot   Project Koha build (82): SUCCESS in 8 min 4 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/82/
02:13 hudsonbot   Galen Charlton: fixing various links to point to *.koha-community.org
02:19 hudsonbot   Starting build 83 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:21 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4972 Fix table creations failing due to foreign key checks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0065707d88d8e89a0480795eae7ef5d7581671a>
02:27 hudsonbot   Project Koha build (83): SUCCESS in 7 min 53 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/83/
02:27 hudsonbot   * Galen Charlton: bug 3881: remove unused OpacPrivacy syspref
02:27 hudsonbot   * Colin Campbell: Bug 4972 Fix table creations failing due to foreign key checks
02:27 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3881 blocker, P5, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED FIXED, No Page for Opac Privacy
02:27 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4972 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, RESOLVED FIXED, updatedatebase fails to create aqbasketgroups and aqcontract
02:34 hudsonbot   Starting build 84 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:42 hudsonbot   Project Koha build (84): SUCCESS in 7 min 43 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/84/
02:42 hudsonbot   * Zeno Tajoli: Bug 5128 [3.2] Unimarc default for holdings. Written with French default
02:42 hudsonbot   * Galen Charlton: bug 5128: leave record.abs to French defaults
02:42 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5128: leave record.abs to French defaults <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=731be74e4042751c1d4a2dd981c451cd22d2c437> / Bug 5128 [3.2] Unimarc default for holdings. Written with French default <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cfb1d46f7f47207e88a0132587dd15b6695e2fa5>
02:42 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5128 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Define default 9xx fields for Unimarc setup in all languages
02:48 slef        chatty bots
02:53 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: bug 3597: DelItemCheck now refuses to delete items in transit for holds <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=12b440276080e453061f699e85dfeca072920c1a> / bug 3597: "delete all items" no longer deletes checked out or waiting items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=424127ae40bad7d869d56102d5acfafabe9ba4c4>
03:04 hudsonbot   Starting build 85 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:12 hudsonbot   Project Koha build (85): SUCCESS in 7 min 46 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/85/
03:12 hudsonbot   * Galen Charlton: bug 3597: "delete all items" no longer deletes  checked out or waiting items
03:12 hudsonbot   * Galen Charlton: bug 3597: DelItemCheck now refuses to delete items in transit for holds
03:12 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3597 normal, P1, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, "Delete all items" doesn't check issues
03:19 masonj      very chatty bots!!
03:19 Amit        heya masonj
04:13 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: standardize name of ILS-DI:AuthorizedIPs syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a72f49ecf05da25a08b8d5fcce342feb7e76404> / updated to installation instructions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=38dafd23debf173111bc55b5c0d741be1c909bb6>
04:19 hudsonbot   Starting build 86 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
04:27 hudsonbot   Project Koha build (86): SUCCESS in 7 min 53 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/86/
04:27 hudsonbot   * Galen Charlton: updated to installation instructions
04:27 hudsonbot   * Galen Charlton: standardize name of ILS-DI:AuthorizedIPs syspref
04:33 chris       So that's almost everyone landed in nz now
05:54 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: DB revision 3.02.00.004 - general release of Koha 3.2.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9db75fee05f13da6fe1ad08d9bf70948fbd56bc2> / Release notes for Koha 3.2.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=65a8f2af503a8bdb61dd39aa62ac5ccd80e1e788>
06:04 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: update AUTHOR in Makefile.PL <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e633749de169c66f86215a29b0a40b171f7596c>
06:04 hudsonbot   Starting build 87 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:13 hudsonbot   Project Koha build (87): SUCCESS in 8 min 57 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/87/
06:13 hudsonbot   * Galen Charlton: Release notes for Koha 3.2.0
06:13 hudsonbot   * Galen Charlton: DB revision 3.02.00.004 - general release of Koha 3.2.0
06:13 hudsonbot   * Galen Charlton: update AUTHOR in Makefile.PL
06:48 gmcharlt    http://koha-community.org/koha-3-2-0/
06:49 chris       woo hoo
06:57 gmcharlt    it is weird having everybody in New Zealand
06:57 gmcharlt    my sense of time is all off
06:58 chris       hehe
06:59 chris       they are all off having dinner in various places
07:03 gmcharlt    methinks it's time to split up updatedatabase.pl
07:03 chris       yeah, reckon so
07:06 gmcharlt    now I'm just waiting for the translations to finish building so that I can put out the all-translastions tarball
07:07 chris       yeah they take a while
07:07 gmcharlt    you're too good at finding translators ;)
07:09 chris       heh
07:11 chris       ill have to set up the stats to run on the 3.2.x branch too now
07:12 gmcharlt    to say nothing of hudson
07:12 chris       *nod*
07:15 chris       heya rach
07:20 CGI141      How do I add MARC databases?  I am working in Armenia and need to use data from the Union Catalog (in Armenian)
07:21 chris       CGI141: do you mean adding another Z3950 server to search?
07:21 CGI141      Yes.
07:21 chris       2 secs ill just find you a good page
07:22 chris       wizzyrea_: see the topic !
07:22 wizzyrea_   OMG WOOT!
07:22 wizzyrea_   !!!!
07:22 chris       CGI141: http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x4334#AEN4359
07:23 wizzyrea_   gmcharlt, when you wake up, BEEEG HUGS
07:23 gmcharlt    wizzyrea_: you assume I've gone to bed ;)
07:23 wizzyrea_   AHA
07:23 * wizzyrea_ hugs gmcharlt
07:23 wizzyrea_   Congratulations!!!
07:23 gmcharlt    thanks!
07:25 wizzyrea_   what's the translation?
07:25 wizzyrea_   of the text at the bottom of the notes
07:25 chris       with my basket, and your basket, the people will prosper
07:25 chris       its a proverb
07:25 wizzyrea_   i likes
07:26 wizzyrea_   that's really great :) Good job folks
07:27 chris       how was dinner wizzyrea_ ?
07:27 chris       did you scoop up nate and sekjal too?
07:28 wizzyrea_   we couldn't find them :( the number of the room the desk gave us wasn't right
07:28 wizzyrea_   and nicole ddn't know how to get them
07:28 wizzyrea_   but dinner itself was lovely
07:28 * wizzyrea_ went to a place called plum
07:28 wizzyrea_   had gnocchi
07:28 chris       ah plum is good
07:30 chris       what did spud have?
07:30 wizzyrea_   he ate some of my gnocchi, and some of thatcher's fish
07:30 wizzyrea_   and garlic bread
07:30 chris       nice
07:30 wizzyrea_   yea, it wasn't the most kid centered meal ever
07:30 wizzyrea_   >.>
07:31 wizzyrea_   but he did alright
07:31 gmcharlt    :)
07:31 chris       :)
07:31 gmcharlt    so is spud ready to join the hackfest?
07:31 wizzyrea_   he's pretty wicked good at iphone apps >.>
07:31 chris       cuba street would have been starting to ramp up by the time you were heading back
07:31 wizzyrea_   yea, it was
07:31 chris       it gets busy on friday nights
07:32 chris       kahu has the flu :(
07:32 * wizzyrea_ looked pretty great
07:32 wizzyrea_   er
07:32 wizzyrea_   no
07:32 wizzyrea_   :( oh no
07:32 wizzyrea_   poor fella
07:33 chris       yeah, its just a mild one, curse of kindergartens
07:33 chris       we'll see how he is tomorrow
07:33 wizzyrea_   :( tummy bug or stuffies
07:33 wizzyrea_   ?
07:33 chris       stuffies and low fever
07:34 wizzyrea_   ug, those are the worst.
07:34 wizzyrea_   kk ttyl Congrats again :D
07:34 chris       yeap
08:01 chris       heh, its quiet in here since most of the europeans i chat too are now here
08:13 francharb   HEY GUYS, AT BIBLIBRE, WE ARE FOLLOWING THE INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY TODAY, HOPE YOU WILL JOIN US ;)
08:13 wizzyrea_   lol
08:13 chris       heh
08:14 FRANCHARB   IT'S GONNA BE FUN FOR THE CODING! ;)
08:15 FRANCHARB   @WIZZYREA++
08:15 munin       FRANCHARB: Error: "WIZZYREA++" is not a valid command.
08:15 FRANCHARB   ;)
08:15 FRANCHARB   WHAT?
08:15 FRANCHARB   WIZZYREA++
08:15 FRANCHARB   munin, WIZZYREA++
08:15 munin       FRANCHARB: Error: "WIZZYREA++" is not a valid command.
08:15 FRANCHARB   AHAH
08:17 FRANCHARB   WELL
08:17 FRANCHARB   LETS GO BACK TO WORK
08:19 chris       WIZZYREA: tv3
08:20 chris       7days is a good comedy show
08:20 WIZZYREA    lol what's on?
08:20 WIZZYREA    aha
08:25 chris       this is my fave bit
08:27 chris       hi hdl
08:29 hdl         hi chris
08:29 * hdl       in auckland
08:30 chris       hows it going?
08:30 ALEX_A      HEHE
08:30 chris       you head to rotorua tomorrow ?
09:01 magnus      gmcharlt++ # for getting 3.2 out the door! yay!
09:06 chris       magnus: what time do you guys hit the road?
09:06 chris       and did cait arrive ok?
09:08 magnus      chris: yep, everyone arrived in the end, including cait! and we all had a lovely spanish dinner down by the harbour tonight. we leave the hotel at 08.45...
09:08 chris       cool :)
09:09 magnus      yeah, really looking forward to the trip and wellington and the conference and everything!
09:10 chris       yep, it should be good fun, nengard, sekjal, nate and nengards husband all arrived in wellington today
09:11 Amit        heya magnus,. chris
09:11 chris       hiya Amit
09:11 magnus      hi Amit
09:12 chris       right, gonna be a busy few days, and im wiped out already, time to get some sleep
09:12 chris       enjoy the road trip
09:12 * chris     goes to bed
09:15 magnus      thanks, chris - sleep tight!
09:40 slef        0845?
09:41 slef        thought it was 0745 :-/
10:17 slef        @later tell magnus 0745 or 0845?
10:17 munin       slef: The operation succeeded.
10:51 zipporah    how do I indicate the number of copies on the koha biblio records say for each book to be able to put an hold in the circulation?
10:55 zipporah    When I try to place an hold on a book, I get the message "no copies available". How do i introduce number of copies for each book?
11:31 Amit        heya jwagner
11:32 jwagner     Hi Amit
11:35 zipporah    how do I indicate the number of copies on the koha biblio records say for each book to be able to put an hold in the circulation? When I try to place an hold on a book, I get the message "no copies available". How do i introduce number of copies for each book?
12:09 zipporah    how do I indicate the number of copies on the koha biblio records say for each book to be able to put an hold in the circulation?  When I try to place an hold on a book, I get the message "no copies available". How do i introduce number of copies for each book?
12:11 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5128: fix syntax errors in previous patch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f80cb06631c5856736f2ce7c08b0a08b054f308>
12:15 zipporah    I am asking for help as to how to indicate number of copies of a book in the Koha 3.0.6.
12:19 hudsonbot   Starting build 88 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:22 tcohen      gmcharlt: congrats
12:22 jwagner     zipporah, there probably aren't a lot of people online at the moment.
12:23 gmcharlt    tcohen: thanks
12:23 gmcharlt    jwagner: how was the flight over?
12:24 jwagner     Haven't left yet!  This afternoon....
12:26 zipporah    jwagner, would you have an answer to my question?
12:27 jwagner     I'd say to check if your system preferences allow holds, and do you have a number set in the maxreserves syspref? (I think that's the name of it)
12:27 jwagner     Otherwise, not offhand
12:28 zipporah    Let me lookup that, thanks for now.
12:28 Mizstik     Hello. :-)
12:29 Mizstik     Is there an ETA for all-translations release of 3.2 yet?
12:29 hudsonbot   Project Koha build (88): SUCCESS in 9 min 39 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/88/
12:29 hudsonbot   Galen Charlton: bug 5128: fix syntax errors in previous patch
12:29 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5128 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Define default 9xx fields for Unimarc setup in all languages
12:32 gmcharlt    Mizstik: about 20 minutes or so
12:32 Mizstik     oh :-o
12:32 gmcharlt    building them now
12:32 Mizstik     Thanks for answering. :-)
12:38 kmkale      hi all
12:40 gmcharlt    howdy
12:43 schuster    Congrats gmcharlt great work in difficult times.
12:49 brendan     morning
12:49 owen        Hi brendan, you're up early
12:49 brendan     :)
12:50 brendan     been going to sleep early
12:50 owen        good practice for fatherhood
12:53 schuster    He's trying to virtually get on the right timezone as NZ so brendan can FEEL like he's at the conference with everyone else.
12:53 brendan     I should sleep an extra 4 hours then
13:09 schuster    I'm lucky I got my dad's gene of not haveing to sleep much.  I usually do pretty well on 6 hours if I get a full 8 my body starts to revolt!
13:19 brendan     I go in phases - but usually 8 hours is what I shoot for
13:19 brendan     got 9 last night
13:23 cyrixbmx    Why in Koha when I have a double quote in my sentence I can not translate de sentence in my file .po?  Exemple : in the file fr-CA-pref.po I have the following string : msgid "enhanced-content.pref#AmazonEnabled# data from Amazon on the staff interface (including reviews and \"Search Inside\" links on item detail pages). This requires that you have signed up for and entered an access key."
13:23 cyrixbmx    But since there is double quote in the string, koha can not translate the sentend with : msgstr "les donn�es d'Amazon sur l'interface professionnelle (y compris les critiques et les liens \"Recherche interne\" sur les pages de d�tails de l'ouvrage). Ceci n�cessite une demande de cl� d'acc�s et la saisie de cette m�me cl�."
13:24 kmkale      bye all
13:41 jcamins     gmcharlt++ # woohoo! Bring out the champagne!
13:51 schuster    at least the good beer!
13:58 jcamins     schuster: the problem is that we're in the States, and the good beer -- as I understand it -- is in NZ.
13:59 brendan     time to make your own ;)
13:59 jcamins     brendan: nah, I'll leave that to my friend who has his own backyard microbrewery.
14:00 brendan     got one here too ;)
14:01 jcamins     brendan: does ByWater administer the Koha RSS planet thing?
14:02 brendan     I think nengard is not totally sure
14:02 jcamins     Seven hours ago it reposted a ton of posts.
14:03 jcamins     Not exactly crisis-level, but I wasn't sure if that was something you were managing.
14:03 owen        What are you referring to jcamins ?
14:03 drulm       Hello
14:04 jcamins     The Koha Related Posts feed...
14:04 jcamins     http://owu.towers.org.uk/planets/koha/index.rss
14:05 jcamins     Looks like slef's website.
14:05 owen        Yes
14:05 jcamins     And, good morning, owen
14:06 jcamins     Happy 3.2 Release Day!
14:06 drulm       Yeah, alright on 3.2, I just saw it.
14:12 reva        hi good morning. The 020 (ISN) $z does not show; neither in staff client Normal view nor in OPAC Normal view. Is this a bug or do I have to turn something on? Thanks for any help.
14:20 owen        By default Koha does not display thta data reva. In order to make Koha do so you would probably have to modify the XSL display
14:21 reva        Thanks owen; so, what would I do? add code to some file? (I can do that provided I have precise instruction.)
14:22 owen        reva: You would have to modify, for instance, /intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl
14:23 owen        But you'd have to learn about XSL first.
14:23 owen        It's not a simple process.
14:23 jcamins     reva: you'll have to modify the stylesheet. In order to do that you'll need to learn XSLT. I recommend Michael Fitzgerald's _Learning XSLT_ (O'Reilly, 2003), Doug Tidwell's _XSLT: Mastering XML Transformations_ (O'Reilly, 2008), and Mangano's _XSLT Cookbook_ (O'Reilly, 2005).
14:24 jcamins     See also http://www.w3schools.com/xsl/xsl_intro.asp although that won't be enough information.
14:26 reva        owen, is this fix integrated in the 3.2? I am trying a virtualbox install of 3.2. If that works, and this code is already incorporated into 3.2, then I will not worry with it. Thanks for the book reference jcamins.
14:26 owen        No, 3.2 doesn't display 020z
14:27 owen        According to the framework 020z is "Cancelled/invalid ISBN." I don't suppose most people think this is very important to display.
14:28 reva        owen, I realize that as I come from the library cataloging end (not the library technology end, as you can tell). So I have the habit of being persnickety.
14:29 owen        In that case you will be well served to study XSLT and craft your display to your liking
14:31 reva        owen, also could I ask about something you might know the answer to? Does Evergreen (which is big in a lot of state public library consortia in the US) have easy solutions for turning displays on or off?
14:32 owen        Sorry, I don't know about Evergreen
14:32 gmcharlt    reva: displays of MARC tags?
14:33 gmcharlt    if that's what you mean, Evergreen has roughly the same level of complexity or ease of configuration in that respect, depending on how you look at it
14:33 gmcharlt    i.e., one would edit a template file on the server
14:33 jcamins     gmcharlt: good morning!
14:33 drulm       OK, got 3.2, will start testing it w/ our data - fun stuff!
14:33 reva        gmcharlt, yes; displays of marc tags.
14:33 gmcharlt    jcamins: good morning
14:33 drulm       Thanks Galen and everyone else!
14:34 moodaepo    gmcharlt++ # Yay on 3.2.0
14:35 reva        Thanks gemcharlt. So basically if you require rigour in description display, all of them require some lib tech help I see. Thanks.
14:36 drulm       Yeah, it feels like a new day! "It's morning in the library!"  - (modified quote)
14:37 jcamins     reva: how much longer do you have at the Standards Bureau?
14:40 drulm       That quote indicates no political affilation :)
14:41 jcamins     drulm: fear not, I completely failed to recognize it.
14:41 reva        jcamins, I am here through the 12th November. (I might add I am off to Varna, Bulgaria on another assignment, doing much less work having to do with library technology:).) Probably not enough time to master anything useful. But I have install the Live CD in the hard drive and we have production quality records in them.
14:42 reva        Considering they did not have a catalog of any kind, this is good start.
14:43 jcamins     Well, assuming the Bureau is able to maintain it, at least.
14:43 reva        I found a lot z39.50 targets, so we do a lot of copy cataloging of our material.
14:44 reva        jcamins, that is always a drawback to Peace Corps work. No accountability is expected from host agencies as we do not hand out money.
14:44 gmcharlt    reva: how much do they have in the way of technical reports or the like that would require original cataloging?
14:44 drulm       jcamins: no doubt. it is a bit obscure.
14:45 the_gippe   morning!
14:45 gmcharlt    ah, imagine that with an extra 'r'
14:45 reva        gmcharlt, I think you are meaning documentary standard. They have quite a few of those mostly regional standards such as those from Jamaica Bureau of Standards, Trinidad and Tobago Bureau of Standards.
14:46 jcamins     gmcharlt: oh no! I recommend hot chicken soup.
14:47 owen        :D No, not an R there!
14:47 jcamins     Oh!
14:47 jcamins     Got it.
14:49 gmcharlt    heh - I was afraid I was going to have to explain my joke
14:49 * jcamins   is a bit slow today, apparently
14:50 owen        gmcharlt: If you had been historically accurate your interruption would have lasted 30 minutes and preempted whatever show I was hoping to see at the time
14:51 drulm       Heh
16:09 brendan     @wunder 93117
16:09 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.4�C (9:20 AM PDT on October 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Rising).
16:12 jwagner     @wunder wellington nz
16:12 munin       jwagner: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (5:00 AM NZDT on October 23, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
16:12 jwagner     @wunder 20817
16:12 munin       jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 12.9�C (12:24 PM EDT on October 22, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Rising).
16:12 jwagner     not too different :-)
16:19 rhcl_away   I can't believe all these people vacationing in NZ are chatting on IRC just like they were in their offices. If I was so lucky to be in NZ, I'd be out fishin'.
16:19 jwagner     I _am_ in my office :-) leaving this afternoon....
16:19 rhcl_away   Oh, well, Ok, you're excused.
16:19 jwagner     Thanks :-)
16:20 jcamins     rhcl_away: I'm not in NZ. :(
16:20 rhcl_away   so why are brendan and munin chatting away?
16:20 brendan     I'm in Cali - not going to Kohacon
16:20 brendan     ;)
16:20 rhcl        ? for real
16:21 brendan     yes my wife and I are expecting a baby girl in December so I'm going to use sometime then :)
16:21 jcamins     rhcl: brendan just keeps weird hours. ;)
16:21 brendan     heh :)
17:04 cyrixbmx    Why in Koha when I have a double quote in my sentence I can not translate de sentence in my file .po?  Exemple : in the file fr-CA-pref.po I have the following string : msgid "enhanced-content.pref#AmazonEnabled# data from Amazon on the staff interface (including reviews and \"Search Inside\" links on item detail pages). This requires that you have signed up for and entered an access key."
17:04 cyrixbmx    But since there is double quote in the string, koha can not translate the sentend with : msgstr "les donn�es d'Amazon sur l'interface professionnelle (y compris les critiques et les liens \"Recherche interne\" sur les pages de d�tails de l'ouvrage). Ceci n�cessite une demande de cl� d'acc�s et la saisie de cette m�me cl�."
17:14 mib_jd1z2   Hi all -- I need some help with a cataloging issue and hope someone can help
17:14 mib_jd1z2   I recently imported the marc records from our previous catalog
17:14 mib_jd1z2   however, the items were not attached to the records
17:15 mib_jd1z2   i'd like to batch delete all biblios without items
17:15 mib_jd1z2   is there any method to do this?
17:20 jcamins     mib_jd1z2: I do not think there is an automatic way, but you could run a report to get a list of MARC records without items.
17:20 jcamins     One moment while I find the link to the report I'm thinking of.
17:21 jcamins     mib_jd1z2: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Records_without_items
17:21 drulm       The linking...
17:23 jcamins     drulm: does it not work?
17:23 jcamins     I've never actually tried the report.
17:30 jcamins     You're right. The link to the OPAC is wrong.
17:31 chris       morning
17:33 jcamins     Does MySQL have a ternary operator?
17:33 jcamins     Good morning.
17:34 jcamins     Ah, yes, IF.
17:35 mib_jd1z2   ... so can I then setup a procedure to delete records without items, or do I have to manually remove 15000 records?
17:35 mib_jd1z2   is it something i could do in mysql without screwing up the index?
17:35 gmcharlt    mib_jd1z2: are you using Zebra?
17:35 mib_jd1z2   yes
17:36 gmcharlt    you can delete the relevant rows from bibio and biblioitems, then run rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r
17:36 mib_jd1z2   what is the name of the field that would be null for a record without item(s)?
17:37 gmcharlt    select biblionumber from biblio where biblionumber not in (select biblionumber from items);
17:38 mib_jd1z2   is that verbatim?
17:38 gmcharlt    yes, mod any typos
17:39 mib_jd1z2   sorry, i'm still a noob with the mysql
17:39 gmcharlt    try this first to verify the count
17:39 gmcharlt    select count(*)  from biblio where biblionumber not in (select biblionumber from items);
17:41 chris       mib_jd1z2: do you use acquisitions?
17:41 mib_jd1z2   count = 14268
17:42 mib_jd1z2   i don't believe i'm using acquisitions
17:42 chris       cool then that should be ok
17:43 chris       if you were using acquistions there is a possibility that some of those biblio might have orders attached
17:43 chris       but if you arent, then no need to worry about that
17:43 mib_jd1z2   definitely not thyen
17:43 mib_jd1z2   still working on setup
17:43 jcamins     drulm: is this better? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Records_without_items
17:44 jwagner     chris, you posted something a while back about the best way to get from the airport to hotels, and of course I didn't keep that post.  Do you have it at hand?
17:45 chris       ah that was for dorkland
17:45 chris       for wellington, you have 3 choices
17:45 chris       taxi, shuttle or the flyer bus
17:46 chris       i think for you, a shuttle is what you want
17:46 chris       cheap, but no walking involved
17:46 jwagner     Just ask at the airport?
17:46 mib_jd1z2   so to delete the records without items, would this be a correct mysql statement? --
17:46 chris       yeah there will be some vans, right outside the door
17:46 chris       and a ton of taxis too
17:47 mib_jd1z2   delete from biblio where biblionumber not in (select biblionumber from items);
17:47 jcamins     drulm: actually, let me change that again.
17:47 jwagner     Great, thanks.
17:47 chris       jwagner: http://www.taxis.co.nz/Vehicles/Shuttles.html
17:47 chris       you could email them, and book one
17:47 jcamins     drulm: okay, now it should work for you.
17:47 chris       will cost around $15-20 nz
17:48 gmcharlt    mib_jd1z2: yes
17:48 mib_jd1z2   great
17:48 mib_jd1z2   and then just run rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r
17:48 gmcharlt    yes
17:49 chris       a taxi will be $25-40
17:49 jwagner     chris, since I'm not likely to have any functioning brain cells by the time I get there, booking in advance seems like a good idea.  Thanks.
17:49 mib_jd1z2   does it matter that zebrasrv is currently trying to index all these records?
17:49 chris       jwagner: yup :)
17:50 gmcharlt    mib_jd1z2: if a rebuild_zebra is already running, you can kill it
17:50 mib_jd1z2   no, it's still working on my import from yesterday
17:50 mib_jd1z2   unless that's what you mean
17:50 gmcharlt    what is working, exactly?
17:50 gmcharlt    rebuild_zebra?
17:51 mib_jd1z2   zebrasrv
17:51 mib_jd1z2   the daemon
17:51 jcamins     mib_jd1z2: that's the server. It should always be running.
17:51 mib_jd1z2   not like this
17:51 mib_jd1z2   way more system load than normal... hd light been on for almost 16 hours now
17:51 mib_jd1z2   it's the "top" process
17:52 jcamins     That doesn't sound good.
17:52 mib_jd1z2   how do i kill it?
17:52 jcamins     How many records do you have?
17:52 mib_jd1z2   currently 19000
17:52 mib_jd1z2   from what i've read, it can take that long right?
17:53 jcamins     With nineteen thousand? That seems odd.
17:53 jcamins     But, perhaps so.
17:53 jwagner     19K should only take maybe 10 minutes to index.
17:53 mib_jd1z2   actually, looking over the log, the import didn't finish until 22:00 hours last night
17:54 jcamins     mib_jd1z2: did you import authorities, too?
17:54 mib_jd1z2   no, just a batch of marc21 records
17:54 mib_jd1z2   from libraryworld.com
17:56 mib_jd1z2   "/etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon stop" ?
18:07 gmcharlt    zebrarsrv itself doesn't do the indexing
18:07 gmcharlt    it just handles queries
18:08 gmcharlt    is there a running zebraidx process?
18:09 mib_jd1z2   no but there are two instances of zebrasrv when I run ps -u koha
18:09 mib_jd1z2   i rebooted the server
18:10 jcamins     mib_jd1z2: yes, there should be one for bibs and one for authorities.
18:10 mib_jd1z2   and zebrasrv is still the top process
18:10 mib_jd1z2   i also deleted the records using the mysql statement above
18:10 mib_jd1z2   and tried to run rebuild_zebra, but get the following error:
18:11 mib_jd1z2   Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild
18:11 jcamins     mib_jd1z2: what percentage of your CPU is it using?
18:12 mib_jd1z2   avg. 2, fluctuates as high as 12
18:12 mib_jd1z2   coupled with perl
18:12 jcamins     mib_jd1z2: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/installingupgrading/
18:13 jcamins     (that's for the error message)
18:16 mib_jd1z2   thanks, the exports worked, it's rebuilding
18:16 jcamins     I wouldn't worry too much about zebrasrv.
18:17 mib_jd1z2   ok
18:17 mib_jd1z2   i mean it's an old dell server, powersc1300
18:18 jcamins     Well, that would explain why it's running much slower than I would've expected.
18:18 jcamins     Yeah, definitely don't worry about it. 400Mhz is not a lot of CPU.
18:19 mib_jd1z2   rebuild is complete... zebrasrv is no longer the top process
18:19 mib_jd1z2   not even in the list anymore
18:19 mib_jd1z2   thanks for all the help
18:19 jcamins     You're welcome.
18:19 jcamins     Out of curiosity, what flavor of Linux are you running?
18:19 mib_jd1z2   ubuntu server 9.10
18:20 jcamins     Nifty.
18:20 jcamins     I guess Ubuntu is less of a resource-hog than I've always believed.
18:20 mib_jd1z2   i'm amazed at the performance improvement after switching over from ms server 2003
18:21 mib_jd1z2   there's some quirks with quickbooks, but other than that it's been great
18:21 jcamins     ... I think I must have the wrong type of computer in mind.
18:21 mib_jd1z2   it has two xeon processors
18:21 mib_jd1z2   but only a gig of ram
18:21 jcamins     Yeah, definitely the wrong computer.
18:22 mib_jd1z2   while i'm here... i noticed that 3.2 was released
18:22 mib_jd1z2   i'm currently running the beta
18:22 mib_jd1z2   is it worth the headache to upgrade... is it a headache?
18:22 jcamins     Dell had a Server 1300 about... what, 8 years ago?
18:22 jcamins     mib_jd1z2: probably worth upgrading, but, no, not much of a headache.
18:22 mib_jd1z2   poweredge 1300sc is the full name
18:23 mib_jd1z2   and 8 years ago sounds right for this one
18:23 * jwagner   is heading out now -- see you in NZ!
18:23 mib_jd1z2   thanks again everyone
18:23 jcamins     Good luck.
18:23 jcamins     Just follow the upgrade instructions, and it should be pretty painless.
18:30 chris       Morning wizzyrea_
18:30 wizzyrea_   good morning, how's the kiddo?
18:31 chris       Better than yesterday, still not 100% but def on the mend
18:34 chris       hows your lil man?
18:35 wizzyrea_   he's still sleeping, we ran ihm right down to the nub yesterday
18:36 chris       heh
18:37 jcamins     How's NZ, wizzyrea?
18:37 wizzyrea_   I don't want to leave >.>
18:38 wizzyrea_   and usually it's about this time I start missing hom
18:38 wizzyrea_   home
18:40 jcamins     Glad to hear it. :)
18:40 slef        road trip is go...
18:41 chris       slef: cool, safe travels ... oh an the hot pools tarnish silver
18:41 chris       just a tip
18:42 wizzyrea_   ooh, have fun on the road trip!
18:45 brendan     mornig wizzyrea_ chris slef et al
18:45 brendan     enjoy that road trip
18:45 brendan     alright wizzyrea_ how was the lotr trip?
18:45 brendan     spill them beans
18:45 wizzyrea_   beautiful
18:46 wizzyrea_   www.flickr.com/photos/wizzyrea
18:46 drulm       Graphics::Magick   and   PDF::API2::Simple   should these just install OKAY   (lotr = Lord of the Rings?)
18:46 wizzyrea_   those are only the ones I took on my phone, i have zillions more on my proper camera
18:46 jcamins     drulm: if you're having problems, you need to install libmodule-install-perl
18:46 jcamins     wizzyrea_: you took those with your *phone*?
18:46 wizzyrea_   yup
18:47 jcamins     My (now broken) camera didn't take pictures that nice.
18:47 chris       whats the egg?
18:47 drulm       jcamins: OK, what does it do?
18:47 wizzyrea_   to show to my compatriots how yellow the yolks are
18:47 wizzyrea_   because we have sickly, wan looking eggs
18:48 wizzyrea_   and you have gorgeous, orange delicious eggs.
18:48 chris       oh right
18:48 chris       i think its cos ours come from chickens
18:48 chris       :P
18:48 wizzyrea_   ba dum bum
18:49 jcamins     drulm: it's required for compiling those two modules. It was left out of pre-3.2 installation scripts.
18:49 * chris     is watching on the top shelf with kahu (tv6 is kids programmes wizzyrea_ )
18:49 wizzyrea_   oooo
18:49 drulm       ahhh, thanks will save the info
18:49 wizzyrea_   jcamins: I have a samsung captivate (galaxy s)
18:49 wizzyrea_   it's a great phone
18:50 drulm       wizzyrea_: so lotr trip - Lord Of The Rings? :)
18:50 wizzyrea_   brendan: doh I didn't add descriptions
18:50 wizzyrea_   yep
18:51 wizzyrea_   just a sec, I'll do that
18:51 chris       wizzyrea_: did you go to weta too?
18:51 wizzyrea_   no, that's on my list
18:51 wizzyrea_   may do that in place of them arket today
18:51 brendan     wizzyrea_ cool I was like neat that's a river that means nothing to me
18:52 chris       thats not just a river, there are nazgul drowned in there
18:52 jcamins     Perhaps I can put off buying a new camera until I have to cave and get one of those infernal devices, and then get just the one device.
18:52 wizzyrea_   ^^
18:52 brendan     ah I see it now
18:52 brendan     any more hints
18:52 wizzyrea_   rivendell
18:52 brendan     everything always looks different
18:53 brendan     I wanna see pictures of the elf ears too :)
18:53 wizzyrea_   :( our van didn't have elf ears, I was sad
18:53 brendan     awh bummer
18:53 chris       @wunder wellington,nz
18:53 munin       chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 23, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
18:55 chris       its really still out there, we need a bit of wind to blow the clouds away
18:55 brendan     @wunder 93117
18:55 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.1�C (12:06 PM PDT on October 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady).
18:55 brendan     @chris seen sekjal or Nate
18:55 munin       brendan: Error: "chris" is not a valid command.
18:55 brendan     heh
18:55 chris       yep
18:55 brendan     awesome++
18:55 drulm       still no go on Graphics::Magick  <-- I need a wizard for this! :)
18:55 chris       dropped sekjal off at his backpackers
18:56 chris       and nate was in the lobby reading
18:56 brendan     sweet
18:57 chris       but we arent sure what room they are in, since nengard went to get them for dinner and the room the lobby told her was full women instead
18:57 chris       but they are both in wellington, i can verify that ;)
18:58 drulm       Oh KohaCon, yeah lucky so and sos
19:00 wizzyrea_   not one person that I have spoken to about why we're in wellington has given me the blank stare of "oh I don't know what koha (the library software) is" stare
19:01 jcamins     _That_ is awesome.
19:01 wizzyrea_   they are all like, oh yea, I've heard of that
19:01 larsw       kiwiland is filled with wonderful people
19:01 wizzyrea_   ^^ agreed completely
19:02 larsw       and reasonable banks, too
19:02 larsw       the uk has its fair share of wondeful people, but no reasonable banks
19:02 jcamins     larsw: now I know you're pulling my leg.
19:02 drulm       NZ is also shown in many movies as an optimal place to survive a total nuclear exchange, bonus!
19:02 wizzyrea_   hmmm
19:04 larsw       jcamins, nope, ten minutes to open a bank account in nz, more than a month so far in the uk :P
19:04 jcamins     Sounds about right.
19:04 wizzyrea_   airport security gave my spud a lolly
19:04 larsw       anyway... I hope kohacon goes well, and everyone enjoys themselves silly
19:04 wizzyrea_   AIRPORT SECURITY.
19:05 wizzyrea_   we didn't even make fools of ourselves
19:05 wizzyrea_   or take a ghastly long time
19:05 wizzyrea_   we did go through during a slow moment though
19:09 chris       heh
19:10 brendan     and it seems like most of NZ is waking up
19:12 chris       http://identi.ca/notice/57192545
19:12 chris       roadtrip is under way
19:12 wizzyrea_   lol ya saw that one
19:39 chris       ata marie Nate
19:39 brendan     heya nate
19:39 Nate        Hi chris!
19:40 chris       Nate: http://www.wotzon.com/eventlisting.php?event_id=5014989
19:41 chris       http://www.wotzon.com/eventlisting.php?event_id=5027229
19:44 chris       Pacific Island cultural performances to commemorate those whose lives have been lost during natural disasters. <--- that might be interesting
19:44 chris       and i may well end up there with Kahu
19:45 Nate        Cool thnxwe will check that out
19:45 chris       cool
19:48 chris       http://www.eventfinder.co.nz/whatson/events/wellington/date    is a good place to find things to do too
19:48 Nate        When r you planning to head over there?
19:51 chris       @later tell nate not sure if we will kahu is a bit sick with the end of the flu, but if we do it would be round 12
19:51 munin       chris: The operation succeeded.
19:52 brendan     yay got a chance to chat with nate
19:52 brendan     suxs about sekjal's luggage :(
19:54 chris       Yeah crappy
19:54 chris       Hope it turns up soon
20:04 chris       @later tell nate nope no te papa today but earth rocks is on tomorrow too maybe then
20:04 munin       chris: The operation succeeded.
20:36 jcamins     Time to close up.
20:36 jcamins     Have a good weekend, #koha
20:57 schuster    chris - what date and time is it there right now?
20:58 schuster    Don't want to miss too much KohaCon10 next week!
20:58 schuster    Guess I'll check the timezone over the weekend...
20:58 schuster    Have a good one everyone!  I'm off...
21:35 CGI059      Hello...
21:37 burriscj    Hi all.
22:36 sekjal      good (localtime), #koha!
22:52 chris       sekjal: if you need I can lend you some tshirts?
22:53 sekjal      thanks, chris!  I bought a new outfit today, and the airline called just after to tell me they found my bag, and are sending it to Wellington
22:54 chris       Wooot!
22:54 brendan_l   woot is right
22:56 sekjal      I was nervous about preparing for this trip, but my wife reminded me that all I really needed was my passport, wallet and a cell phone
22:56 sekjal      she was totally right
22:56 sekjal      and now I have a story
22:57 chris       Yup
22:59 chris       Find somewhere for breakfast?
22:59 chris       :)
23:03 sekjal      Nate and I ate at Finc., right next door
23:04 sekjal      brb
23:27 sekjal      okay, off to meet Nicole for some lunch
23:28 brendan_l   sweet
23:28 sekjal      cheers, all!