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23:57 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5303 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED, Overdue notices subject is improperly encoded
23:57 hudsonbot Frédéric Demians: Bug 5303 Overdue notices subject is improperly encoded
23:57 hudsonbot Project Koha build (76): SUCCESS in 7 min 42 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/76/
23:49 hudsonbot Starting build 76 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:48 munin slef: magnus was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 24 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <magnus> hiya wizzyrea_
23:48 slef @seen magnus
23:43 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5303 Overdue notices subject is improperly encoded <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a7bb77e4fcd7ad78ef7ba6f984ef69fccd8a163>
23:36 cyrixbmx hmmm I will go sleep then if someone know the response he can to reply me in private :) thanks
23:33 cyrixbmx But since there is double quote in the string, koha can not translate the sentend with : msgstr "les donn�es d'Amazon sur l'interface professionnelle (y compris les critiques et les liens \"Recherche interne\" sur les pages de d�tails de l'ouvrage). Ceci n�cessite une demande de cl� d'acc�s et la saisie de cette m�me cl�."
23:33 cyrixbmx Why in Koha when I have a double quote in my sentence I can not translate de sentence in my file .po? Exemple : in the file fr-CA-pref.po I have the following string : msgid "enhanced-content.pref#AmazonEnabled# data from Amazon on the staff interface (including reviews and \"Search Inside\" links on item detail pages). This requires that you have signed up for and entered an access key."
22:51 jcamins How is my desk a mess again?
22:51 chris it is
22:50 jcamins chris: that sounds like a good place to find food...
22:50 chris nate is wandering around cuba street somehwere :)
22:48 chris im being picked up 12.30, so ill pass
22:48 darling lunch now anybody?
22:47 chris too late :)
22:47 chris if you head out the hostel, turn right, then right
22:47 Nate Off for sustenance
22:47 chris sweet
22:47 Nate Cool I'll make sure im here
22:47 chris by the time clear customs etc
22:46 chris so prolly 4.30ish
22:46 chris they land at 3.10
22:46 Nate What time are you dropping by here?
22:46 Nate Sounds good
22:46 chris ill see you later today anyway im sure
22:46 chris ahh, she is coming in .. rain cheque!
22:45 Nate Great!
22:44 chris ahh, 2 secs lemme check what my wife is up to, if she isnt coming into town i could meet you for lunch
22:44 wizzyrea_ "crazy american tries to eat raw fish from harbor"
22:44 Nate Need to find food soon or I'll be on the news
22:44 chris cool, ill be dropping ian off there later today
22:43 Nate Nomad backpackers
22:43 chris sweet, where you at?
22:43 * gmcharlt pouts
22:43 Nate Yessiree!
22:43 chris Nate: you are in nz already!!
22:42 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4305 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED, Amazon book covers do not work with ISBN13
22:42 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Fixing a double count of a developer and adding a new one to the history
22:42 hudsonbot * Robin Sheat: Bug 4305 - prevent errors when handling invalid ISBN13 values
22:42 hudsonbot Project Koha build (75): SUCCESS in 7 min 54 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/75/
22:34 hudsonbot Starting build 75 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:32 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing a double count of a developer and adding a new one to the history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1896508f93054115ef65ddcb00a5b233bf9a027f> / Bug 4305 - prevent errors when handling invalid ISBN13 values <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e81bc5ce81c594e71379df1168fd99d4062cea4f>
21:52 darling we'll want it to be nice for lunchtimes
21:52 darling yeah, it's been a little nasty past day or so
21:52 chris heh
21:51 wizzyrea_ just in time for us to be inside at kohacon ;)
21:51 darling http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/4263177/Sunny-outlook-for-Labour-weekend
21:27 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Translations
21:27 hudsonbot Project Koha build (74): SUCCESS in 7 min 59 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/74/
21:26 CGI550 :)
21:26 CGI550 thanks richard
21:23 wizzyrea_ hi there
21:23 magnus hiya wizzyrea_
21:22 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'translation' of git://git.workbuffer.org/git/koha into to-push <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bdd1f81fc119b2ae18b26c60144cb4446af35b96> / Translations <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9aabbee5461bcf0cd03c4968524c7d88f9ae48d>
21:20 richard CGI550 this might help - http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library
21:20 hudsonbot Starting build 74 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:20 CGI550 I want to generate a list through a mysql query
21:17 CGI550 could tell me that table Koha database stored the subject of the books entered into the system?
21:16 CGI550 podrian indicarme en que tabla de la base de datos de Koha se almacena los subject de los libros catalogados ?
21:14 CGI550 es decir libros ingresados al sistema
21:13 CGI550 buenas tardes como puedo generar un reporte de subject
21:13 chris you'll grab them
21:12 chris so if you want to pull from the translation branch on workbuffer
21:12 gmcharlt thanks much
21:12 chris norwegian and spanish
21:12 chris gmcharlt: just committed the changes
21:12 chris sekjal needs to show them his presentation
21:12 chris yeah, not III
21:11 magnus hey, they should be using koha...
21:11 magnus yup!
21:10 chris free wifi?
21:10 chris :)
21:10 magnus auckland city library yay!
21:09 chris lemme just quickly check
21:08 gmcharlt chris: any last minute translations?
21:06 chris cait is in sydney
21:01 CGI550 thanks
20:58 brendan try looking there and see if you can't find some information
20:58 brendan CGI550 --> http://koha-community.org/documentation/
20:45 CGI550 Buenas tardes me pueden indicar como generar un reporte de materias ingresadas al sistema?
20:42 fcapo ok, no problems
20:42 CGI550 Good afternoon I would like to know how to print a list of materials in the system
20:42 chris (like writing my presentation)
20:42 chris as yeah, most of us are busy with last minute things
20:41 chris fcapo: it might be better to mail the list
20:41 rhcl_away It's probably OK to go ahead and ask questions, but responses may be a little slow for a while.
20:41 fcapo oh, good to know... :/
20:40 rhcl_away Everybody: a lot of the people that could normally help with questions are in New Zealand for the Koha Conference.
20:40 CGI550 Buenas tardes
20:39 fcapo It seems my message_attributes table is empty and EnhancedMessagingPreferences needs it.
20:33 fcapo Hello, I have a problem : in my koha instance, if I activate EnhancedMessagingPreferences and then try to configure a patron category, I get an empty "Default messaging preferences for this patron category" table.
20:19 CGI858 Buenas tardes me gustaria saber como generar un reporte de descriptores tematicos en Koha
20:18 CGI858 Good afternoon I would like to know how to print a list of materials in the system
19:59 slef biab - food time
19:53 CGI818 Buenas tardes me gustaria saber como genero un reporte de las materias o descritores tematicos en el sistema
19:52 CGI818 Good afternoon I would like to know how to print a list of materials in the system
19:49 chris that could be it :)
19:49 slef Maybe it's just that NZ is more euro than US ;-)
19:49 chris i found europe easier to adjust to than the us
19:49 chris yep
19:48 slef yeah fine. oddly, a +12 jump seems easier than a +5
19:48 chris sleep well?
19:47 chris ah yeah there are a couple of decent places out there
19:47 slef I might stroll out towards mt eden then
19:45 chris from what i remember theres not a lot of anything in central auckland
19:43 slef anyone know a good bakery in central auckland? :-)
19:39 richard hi brendan
19:39 brendan heya richard
19:26 richard hi
19:22 CGI748 Good afternoon I would like to know how to print a list of materials in the system
19:22 CGI748 traducción del español al inglés
19:18 CGI748 Buenas tardes me gustaria saber como emito un listado de materias en el sistema
19:17 CGI903 Buenas tardes
19:09 munin brendan: nengard was last seen in #koha 1 day, 23 hours, 19 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <nengard> collum sent a reminder email - let me know if you get it
19:09 brendan @seen nengard
19:09 brendan sekjal has got to be getting close
19:08 munin brendan: sekjal was last seen in #koha 1 day, 0 hours, 9 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <sekjal> ok, time to find my gate. cheers, all!
19:08 brendan @seen sekjal
19:06 schuster yes anyway That wasn't in my mysql book in a nutshell!
19:06 brendan like '' and not like '';
19:06 schuster Guess I wrote it almost correct anyway! booksellerid like "%PO%" not booksellerid like "%BOND%"
19:05 slef might be a more optimised way of writing it - iDunno
19:05 slef just as you wrote but s/but/and/ and ' instead of "
19:02 schuster any hints?
19:02 schuster sql question - I want to find things that have booksellerid like "%PO%" but not booksellerid like "%BOND%"
19:00 schuster Yep!
18:46 brendan cool hopeing the rangers bet them bums (yanks)
18:43 schuster brendan - when in Texas and the local team is winning EVERYONE is a Rangers fan. It is red and blue day at work tomorrow.
18:32 jcamins Hey, there's a "List of Middle-earth inns" on Wikipedia.
18:31 jcamins Prancing Pony is in Bree. :)
18:31 jcamins Green Dragon, I think.
18:31 brendan prancing pony is there IRC
18:30 brendan heh - yup bywater - that small community meeting place in the shire
18:30 jcamins brendan: you know, I never made the connection to LotR before.
18:20 brendan I should of gone to Kohacon
18:20 brendan :sigh:
18:17 wizzyrea_ lol
18:17 brendan spud with elf ears!!! woohooo!
18:17 brendan I need to sign off soon - I can't handle the suspense of waiting to see your pics
18:16 brendan oh man elf ears
18:15 wizzyrea_ def will do brendan. I'm putting most things on flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/wizzyrea
18:14 wizzyrea_ supposedly they have elf ears in the vans so you can "be the elf you are"
18:14 chris bbiab
18:13 brendan wizzyrea_ let me know when you post pics from your tour :)
18:13 chris this bit gives it away "It had been agreed the ban would be lifted on Monday. Warner Bros had asked to consult about how it would be announced, but had not issued a press release so Actors' Equity lifted the ban yesterday. "
18:12 wizzyrea_ afk a min
18:12 wizzyrea_ stupid americans >.>
18:12 chris imho its Warner brothers being dicks
18:12 wizzyrea_ like, huge
18:12 wizzyrea_ yup, it's a big deal here
18:11 brendan just reading --> http://ur1.ca/254b4 from ranginui tweets
18:11 chris so 9.22am ... lets see how wrong i am
18:11 brendan YAY!!!
18:11 wizzyrea_ says the guy from bywater :)
18:11 brendan lotr++
18:11 chris im gonna say 2 hours the rain will be gone
18:10 brendan oh man - so jealous
18:10 wizzyrea_ :)
18:10 wizzyrea_ lotr tour
18:10 chris i can see blue to the south
18:10 chris fingers crossed
18:10 chris it might blow itself out by then
18:10 brendan what tour?
18:10 chris ahhh
18:09 wizzyrea_ 1:30
18:09 chris what time does the tour start?
18:08 wizzyrea_ heh yea it is
18:07 chris that high is taunting us
18:07 chris http://www.metservice.com/national/maps-rain-radar/maps/tasman-sea-nz-colour-latest
18:06 wizzyrea_ right*
18:06 wizzyrea_ I'll order that rigt up
18:06 chris wizzyrea_: its a southerly, straight from antartica ... we want it to change to a northerly
18:06 wizzyrea_ hrmph.
18:06 chris we are getting 70kmph gusts
18:06 munin wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 20.7�C (1:17 PM CDT on October 21, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling).
18:05 wizzyrea_ @wunder Lawrence, ks
18:05 brendan not too much better here
18:05 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.6�C (11:15 AM PDT on October 21, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Steady).
18:05 brendan @wunder 93117
18:05 brendan morning chris
18:05 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 22, 2010). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
18:05 chris @wunder wellington nz
18:05 chris gah this weather is disgusting
17:17 brendan schuster you a rangers fan?
16:17 jcamins gmcharlt: I shall have to get a copy then.
16:17 jcamins (the giving up bit... that was about another project)
16:17 gmcharlt jcamins: that's what the Camel book is for
16:17 jcamins Sorry, wrong window.
16:17 jcamins I decided to give up.
16:17 jcamins Is it just me or does the Perl documentation make exactly no allowance for people who don't already know how to do what they want to do?
16:16 jcamins Now I just have to figure out whether someone's hit the "Submit" button or not.
16:14 jcamins Actually, I think I'll make this save MARC records first.
16:14 jcamins gmcharlt: I'll try that.
16:09 schuster Stuck here with the rest of us US unable to leave the country! Now I don't feel so bad!
16:07 * jwagner will hoist a glass for gmcharlt, in the spirit
16:06 gmcharlt schuster: no; I'll be attending the conference is spirit, as it were
16:06 schuster gmcharlt - you going to NZ?
16:05 gmcharlt then Dumper($foo) will print the structure of a variable that is a reference
16:05 gmcharlt jcamins: one trick is to use Data::Dumper;
16:01 jcamins Two hours and I've made no progress.
16:01 jcamins Okay, this can wait until NZ wakes up.
15:40 * jcamins remembers why he hates working with Perl.
15:31 jcamins Does anyone here understand Perl arrays?
15:23 jcamins *thought
15:20 jcamins I think Perl didn't use pointers?
15:10 jcamins How come scalar() is returning an array reference?
15:09 jcamins virtualshelfcontents?
15:04 brendan ah which table are lists stored in?
14:34 jcamins Okay, thanks.
14:33 brendan bottom
14:33 brendan I think usually practice is at the end
14:29 jcamins Do you put subroutine definitions at the top or bottom of a a file?
14:21 jcamins If anyone wants to retrieve the value from GetRecordValue directly, the code for that is $whatever[0][0]->{'subfield'} with $whatever declared as an array.
14:20 jcamins Hm. That didn't work.
14:20 jcamins exit;
14:20 jcamins print @$city[0]->{'subfield'};
14:20 jcamins my $city = shift @cities;
14:20 jcamins my @cities = GetRecordValue('city', $record, GetFrameworkCode($biblionumber));
14:12 jcamins I have successfully extracted "New York."
14:10 jcamins It's an array of an array of a hash, and Perl won't let you access it directly.
14:10 jcamins Ah ha.
14:08 jcamins It says it's an array.
14:07 jcamins Okay, Perl is convinced this is not a hash reference.
14:06 braedon|1 alas, my "usefulness" re perl is currently limited to motivational comments
14:02 jcamins The Template Pro agrees with me, however.
14:02 jcamins Unfortunately, apparently Perl disagrees.
14:02 jcamins I think that this is a hash.
14:01 braedon|1 read the code, understand the code, BE the code!
14:01 braedon|1 don't let them lead you astray!
14:01 braedon|1 always trying to bring you down
14:00 braedon|1 thinkers even
14:00 braedon|1 those comments are the negative thinkgers
14:00 braedon|1 positive thinking jcamins - remeber, if you want it hard enough, you can do anything
13:59 jcamins Interesting fact: the limited comments in C4 are often misleading or wrong.
13:58 * jcamins bangs his head on the table
13:57 braedon|1 (so long as you change your mind at the last second, you should be fine)
13:56 * braedon|1 votes for the red wire
13:56 jcamins I think so, yes.
13:55 braedon|1 and if you disconnect the couplings in the wrong order, the device will be triggered?
13:54 jcamins But it seems that C4 is tightly coupled to the template system we use.
13:54 jcamins Yes, I know.
13:51 jwagner jcamins, that's a potentially explosive statement :-)
13:47 * jcamins has decided he doesn't like C4.
13:42 jcamins Except when I try to dereference it, it tells me it's not a hash value.
13:41 jcamins A shame it doesn't appear to do that when I call it.
13:41 jcamins Okay, supposedly GetRecordValue returns an array of hashes.
13:38 jcamins Everything is type '$'
13:38 * jcamins hates Perl variables
13:34 jcamins Okay, so according to ref it's an array of an array of a hash.
13:28 jcamins When I try to dereference the array, I get nothing.
13:28 jcamins I have a keyword mapping 'city'->260a, but when I use GetRecordValue to retrieve it, I get an array reference.
13:27 jcamins brendan: sadly not.
13:27 braedon|1 sometimes takes me upwards of half an hour to sort out exactly what i have planned is actually usable, and what is based on some fantasy version of the assignment - not good when the assignment in question is due in a couple of hours
13:26 brendan sounds like jcamins is talking in his sleep
13:26 jwagner Actually I get some of my best solutions in dreams :-) If I'm struggling with a script or something, I often wake up about 2 AM thinking, oh, THAT'S how to fix it.
13:25 brendan yeah I can't believe $2dollars for a MARC record and that's nonsense this morning ;)
13:25 jcamins Does that make sense? I don't think it does.
13:24 jcamins Why I am I getting an array reference from GetRecordValue?
13:24 braedon|1 spending the entire night planning out intricate details of an assignment, and then waking up to find it is all nonsense is, well, interesting
13:23 braedon|1 i imagine it will only get worse with work projects :P
13:23 * braedon|1 dreams about uni projects and assignments
13:22 jwagner Dunno about sleep talking, but many years back, when I was managing a migration from an old ILS to Unicorn, I was dreaming in MARC record format by the end of the project. I can think of better things to dream about.
13:22 jwagner It's going to be rough. I'm getting handicapped assistance through the various airports, but my arthritic legs aren't going to like that much time in a plane seat.
13:21 braedon|1 and don't sleep talk about marc records on the plane :)
13:20 brendan have a fun trip jwagner!!! hopefully the plane ride treats you ok and you don't have too difficult of time :)
13:12 jcamins Woohoo! I successfully read the list of languages from the database!
13:12 * jwagner is so distracted this morning that I made my second cup of tea with cold water -- guess we're having iced tea....
13:11 jwagner My passport is about the only thing that IS ready. But I ticked off a lot of errands yesterday. Still a bunch more to go.
13:10 schuster Enjoy! wish there was a last minute decision like that around here, but since my passport has expired I doubt that would work!
13:10 brendan then I said - wow that's extreme and rolled over and kept sleeping
13:10 * jwagner is VERY busy getting things organized to go....
13:09 jwagner schuster, yes I am, last minute decision as of yesterday.
13:09 brendan I guess I kept talking about MARC records - so much that She had to get up and turn the light on for me to stop talking
13:09 schuster someone is really proud of their work...
13:09 braedon|1 you better be serious brendan
13:09 braedon|1 hahaha
13:09 brendan "How much for a MARC record? 2 dollars!!! that's ridiculous!! They should be free!"
13:09 schuster jwagner is going to NZ?
13:08 brendan So I guess I was talking in my sleep lastnight - I woke up my wife by saying
12:56 jcamins Wow. C4::Languages is impressively confusing.
12:33 jcamins I think maybe I'll move that to later in my to-do list.
12:30 jcamins Hm. First item on my to-do list is figuring out how to duplicate input boxes.
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12:26 munin Brendan-O: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.5�C (5:36 AM PDT on October 21, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady).
12:26 Brendan-O @wunder 93117
12:00 jcamins_a Amit++
12:00 jcamins_a Looks like Amit was pretty busy!
11:59 jcamins_a !!!
11:59 Brendan-O morning jcamins_a
11:59 jcamins_a Morning.
11:46 Brendan-O morning :)
10:05 chris cool, now im going to sleep
10:04 chris oh there it is
10:02 * chris is falling asleep, so ill let you know in the morning when it makes it through the greylisting or whatever has caught it
10:01 chris you sent it to me slef ?
09:41 slef oh oops - from line on that will be wrong, so please let me know here :)
09:41 chris net.nz :)
09:40 slef net or net.nz?
09:39 chris net
09:39 slef catalyst.co.nz?
09:37 slef ;-)
09:37 slef so does this mean I should drop the section of my session on the future of koha-community.org?
09:35 * paul_p happy with the idea to see jwagner, but don't know (or fear to know) where all this ...(silence here) ... will go :\
09:35 chris kristina at catalyst or chrisc at catalyst
09:34 slef not absolutely final but I would like to get something saved
09:34 slef where should I email my slides?
09:33 chris [off] well when it became clear that we wouldnt be dropping everything to talk to patrick about the foundation, we no longer rated sending management
09:32 slef It's blooming freezing in bucklame president but I think I have figured out the heating.
09:31 slef [off] we wondered at dinner who from ptfs would be coming
09:26 si Calculates the size of a HTTP Request.
09:26 si Copyright 2005-2006 Ookla
09:26 chris but jane wagner is instead
09:25 chris patrick jones is no longer coming
09:25 chris i think maybe very briefly
09:23 paul_p hi chris. I want your opinion about the 2008-2009 history of Koha. do you think I should speak of the events with ptfs/ll ? I plan to do something like : "title => Houston, we have a problem" and explain in a few lines what happends, and why it has slowed the project (lot of time spent instead of happy hacking)
09:21 paul_p and conditionned air is really cold everywhere, so we get hot/cold/hot/cold
09:21 paul_p NZ++
09:21 chris hehe
09:21 si I can categorically state that it will not be as warm as KL here :-)
09:21 chris hi paul_p
09:20 si splendid
09:20 si heh
09:20 paul_p si, yep, of course ;-)
09:20 paul_p - we could have had a problem with my luggage, it was not supposed to be given to me in KL, but I saw it by chance when passing near the baggage drop !
09:20 si paul: but you'll be in Wellington next week?
09:19 paul_p - france on strike, missing our AMS<>KL
09:19 * si lived in KL for several years as a boy
09:19 paul_p -hdl tickets cancelled by company
09:19 si woo, cool
09:19 paul_p we are in Kuala Lumpur, after many events !
09:19 paul_p si, nope. On the way to Auckland.
09:17 si paul: you're on your way to Wellington?
09:16 paul_p yes ! I forgot that : Happy Birthday once again hdl !!!
09:16 * si wanders by
09:15 hdl paul_p: that's just an unexpected Happy Birthday from circomstances ;)
09:15 paul_p chris, about ?
09:14 paul_p hdl should not say "hi from KL", but "Hi from KL business class lounge, where I am on a comfortable chair, could take a shower, while Paul is in economy, on an uncomfortable chair in the airport". But I agree that would be longer :D
09:02 slef oh other thing that was worrying to see: NZ imports the Jeremy Kyle show???
08:58 chris those are all the free to air ones
08:52 slef chris: yeah, about half of that.
08:46 chris http://www.freeviewnz.tv/whats_on_freeview/tv_guide <-- like that?
08:45 chris ahhh yeah
08:44 slef MSIE inside
08:44 slef I suspect that is because you have to plan your life around its boot time.
08:44 slef It's a Lifestylepanel.
08:43 slef http://www.presidenthotel.co.nz/test/tp.html says different channels to what is on the very slow tv
08:43 chris ahhh, freeview
08:42 slef one two three six prime dw-tv bvn tv5
08:42 slef we seem to have a bizarre mix here
08:41 chris you probably have sky
08:41 chris http://www.skytv.co.nz/tv-guide.aspx
08:41 chris actually if you are in hotels
08:40 chris too
08:40 chris yeah tv3 and c4 must have some rule about that
08:40 slef while talking about retarded rules
08:40 chris heya hdl
08:40 slef chris: http://bleb.org/tv/channel.html?ch=itv1
08:40 hdl hi from Kuala Lumpur
08:39 chris theres bugger all on tonight
08:39 chris yep, its for the 70 year olds who watch lunchtime news :)
08:38 chris who have some retarded rule
08:38 slef oh and Emmerdale after the lunchtime news? really?
08:38 chris tv3.co.nz and c4tv.co.nz
08:38 chris thats missing 2 channels
08:38 slef ta
08:38 chris http://telstraclear.co.nz/residential/inhome/digital-tv/tvg-grid.cfm
08:37 chris hmmm
08:37 slef chris: good NZ tv now guide website?
08:36 chris heh
08:32 slef I will carry on confusing them then :)
08:30 hdl But usually american and foreign folks use henri only ;)
08:30 hdl hd.
08:30 slef hdl: are you hd or just h in speech usually?
08:29 magnus g'night #koha
08:29 slef hi hdl
08:27 slef I'm ignoring my sleep-disrupting medication today.
08:26 paul_p (and I forget the sleeping drugs my doctor gave to me :(((( )
08:26 paul_p was 11PM in my body when we landed, so ...
08:26 slef aww
08:26 paul_p (could not sleep in the plane, even with an emergency exit seat)
08:25 slef no sleep in flight?
08:25 paul_p and that was 30h ago now...
08:25 slef but my 3g is cheap enough there
08:25 paul_p slef, yep, but I wake up a 6AM
08:25 slef Yeah, LHR has no free either
08:25 paul_p french airport have a 0mn free wifi
08:25 slef erm? no hotel at AMS?
08:24 slef HK seems to have unlimited free wifi.
08:24 paul_p i'm 30hours without sleeping, start to be really tired...
08:24 paul_p take off in 4 hours.
08:24 paul_p free wifi (2 hours) everywhere
08:24 paul_p klia++
08:24 slef (Clevedon is 7 miles from home. No vineyards)
08:24 paul_p hi magnus & chris & slef
08:23 slef Clevedon wines are pretty hilarious too.
08:23 slef saw a bus going to Torbay on the walk back. That always amuses me.
08:23 slef whirly even
08:22 slef sparkly worly world
08:20 chris sleep well
08:20 chris yeah, its about that time
08:20 magnus chris: it is. and my head is starting to feel weird too, so i'll hit the hay shortly
08:19 magnus hiya paul_p
08:16 chris magnus: yeah its weird eh
08:16 chris its paul ... in malaysia?
08:11 magnus hi chris - we're in the same timezone (as wizzyrea said some days ago) ;-)
08:09 chris heya magnus :)
08:00 wizzyrea_ jo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wizzyrea
07:55 magnus jransom: well... it could never be "good", i think, but it was uncomlicated, at least - unlike some, i hear
07:48 jransom did you have a good trip over?
07:48 magnus thanks jransom - it's been great so far
07:47 jransom welcome to NZ
07:47 jransom Magnus - kiaora my friend
07:11 newnick is anybody here
07:11 newnick hello,
07:08 koha_mong hello,
07:00 chris you could stop at the island on the way
07:00 chris http://eastbywest.co.nz/places-to-see/
06:59 chris http://eastbywest.co.nz/ <-- that one
06:58 chris yep
06:57 wizzyrea_ this ferry? http://bit.ly/adsy7u
06:53 chris yup
06:53 wizzyrea_ it's just a much smaller place :)
06:53 wizzyrea_ the scale messes with me
06:53 wizzyrea_ well, what *appears* to be that distance
06:53 wizzyrea_ in kansas, maps with that distance mean an hour at least :P
06:52 chris hehe
06:52 chris yeah
06:52 wizzyrea_ but it looks like it should be
06:52 wizzyrea_ the scale of the maps is what's getting me... nothing is really that far
06:52 chris train back to wellington
06:52 chris bus to petone station
06:52 chris take the ferry to eastborne
06:51 chris heres a plan
06:51 chris hehe
06:51 wizzyrea_ really, 12 miutes by train? I don't know if I can handle that ;)
06:50 chris which is quite a fun little place to look around too
06:49 chris so you could go to petone
06:49 chris but the hutt line has tons
06:48 chris looks like only 1 train each way on the wairarapa line on sunday
06:47 chris good shops and restaurants
06:47 chris greytown is a neat little town
06:46 chris hmm none of those look that good
06:46 chris yeah, have a play with the journey planner, martinborough has the vineyards
06:45 wizzyrea_ me, not you
06:45 wizzyrea_ ugh. web usage fail. lol
06:44 wizzyrea_ ohhhh journey planner
06:44 chris bad url, but hopefully works
06:44 chris http://www.metlink.org.nz/journeyplanner/plan?JourneyOrigin=wellington&origin_easting=&origin_northing=&origin_type=&JourneyDestination=Martinborough%2C&destination_easting=271504463&destination_northing=599486232&destination_type=locality&departure=departafter&time=Now&date=24-10-2010&modes[]=bus&modes[]=rail&modes[]=ferry&modes[]=cablecar&submit=Go
06:43 wizzyrea_ lol
06:43 wizzyrea_ so that
06:43 wizzyrea_ there you go then
06:43 chris well you gotta go round the harbour to go out to the vinyeards :)
06:42 wizzyrea_ well I'm a little torn between out of town to see the country (isn't there a wine area to the north?) and a train around the harbor
06:41 chris where do you want to go?
06:41 wizzyrea_ woot. Think we'll maybe try to do the train thing then.
06:41 chris yup
06:41 wizzyrea_ do they run trains on sunday?
06:38 wizzyrea_ lol ya
06:37 chris tv is crap tonight eh
06:34 wizzyrea_ mmm ok yea that sounds yummy
06:32 chris Honey Mustard, Ham, Onions, Gherkins, Chicken, Bacon & Smoked Cheddar.
06:32 chris cursed
06:30 wizzyrea_ very original combinations
06:30 wizzyrea_ ! I missed that one
06:29 chris but i do like the one with gherkins on it
06:29 chris we get hell for pizza thursdays, so im kinda over them
06:28 chris :)
06:28 wizzyrea_ ^.^
06:28 wizzyrea_ not one we'd have had at home
06:28 wizzyrea_ well I should say, we had salmon, spring onion, and cream cheese pizza
06:28 wizzyrea_ yep, we had hell pizza... not very original, but it was really good
06:27 chris did you eat?
06:25 chris yeah, not bad for a night photo from a phone
06:23 wizzyrea_ it's a little blurry but eh
06:18 chris good photo
05:58 wizzyrea_ I was going to show her this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wizzyrea/5100808621/
05:58 wizzyrea_ doh I missed her
05:57 wizzyrea_ jo! hi :D
05:44 jransom hey pianohacker
05:43 jransom Liz baby :)
05:42 wizzyrea_ hey ph :)
05:29 pianohack Hi #koha
05:18 slef ok, off downstairs
05:08 chris Wellington does too
05:06 slef I think I might have mentioned that.
05:06 slef HK airport has free wifi
05:05 slef ok ta
05:03 jransom due in tomorrow at about 2pm ish
05:03 jransom she lost somewhere between hong kong and australia and auckland
05:01 munin slef: cait was last seen in #koha 19 hours, 2 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <cait> the messages look not so nice too and you can't show the date and time at the beginning of a message
05:01 slef @seen cait
04:43 slef paging colo support now :-/
04:42 chris Stink one
04:42 slef They're not in the file they should be.
04:42 slef I don't have the ssh keys I need.
04:42 chris Ill leave you to it then
04:42 slef I think this is a lost cause
04:42 jransom so wish I was in Auckland already
04:42 chris Ahh :)
04:41 slef hence the 45min deadline ;-)
04:41 slef yes, just spooke with 20mins ago
04:40 chris Lee was going to try to find you
04:40 chris Are you in the president hotel?
04:39 slef ta
04:39 chris If you aren't watching movies unlikely to use all that
04:39 slef yeah, data aloways better than time for ssh
04:38 chris But still probably cheaper than hotel nets
04:38 chris http://www.2degreesmobile.co.nz/broadbandzone-data-packs
04:37 chris Hmm not as goood as I remember 20 nz for 1gb
04:32 chris Lemme find it
04:32 slef as that may still be worthwhile
04:32 slef any idea of price/package name?
04:32 chris Right, as you were :)
04:32 slef chris: yeah, I was wondering about that, but I want this fixed in the next 45m
04:31 chris If you can tether
04:31 chris 2degrees prepay 3g is probably cheaper
04:31 chris Slef can ur phone take a sim?
04:30 wizzyrea_ omg, we're in the same time zone!
04:30 wizzyrea_ hey slef
04:28 slef time to fix that server :-/
04:28 slef yengh... on expensive hotel internet
04:09 Oak \o
03:24 chris cya later
03:24 pauln cheers chris, catch ya
03:22 pauln nice one
03:19 chris which is cheap wifi
03:19 chris nope but they do www.cafenet.co.nz
03:19 pauln are they the ones doing free wifi in cbd?
03:18 wizzyrea_ !!! that's awesome :D
03:17 chris citylink donated us 3 days of free wifi
03:17 chris there sure is
03:17 pauln is there wifi at kohacon?
03:16 pauln RDA is almost here to replace MARC - don't ask me anything about it but, no me cataloguer
03:16 chris pauln: excellent
03:16 jcamins_a Good night (again), #koha
03:16 jcamins_a Okay, time to hit the hay.
03:16 pauln chris - sweet, all good
03:07 robin heh
03:06 chris agile ... you're doing it wrong!
03:06 chris until they changed vendors
03:06 robin goodness
03:06 chris it lasted 2 years
03:06 chris was supposed to last for 2 months until their vendor gave them their web opac
03:06 chris ran once a night
03:05 chris converted it, stuffed into sybase and searched it with perl
03:05 robin that must have been "fun"
03:05 chris -I
03:05 chris the data came out of their mainframe in EBCIDIC
03:05 chris for wellington city library
03:05 chris the first opac i worked on
03:04 * wizzyrea_ giggles
03:04 chris heh
03:04 robin to aid in standardisation, I'm going to make a commitment to only support MARC in ISO646 and EBCDIC from now on.
03:03 chris that whole marc-8 thing .. whats that about??? :-)
03:03 jcamins_a You'd think the library world could get at least one thing right w/r/t languages.
03:03 robin and standardised.
03:02 robin and be replaced by something sane
03:02 robin MARC needs to go away
03:02 jcamins_a I just find the whole thing so baffling.
03:02 chris and often records lie
03:02 chris so have mixed up records in your db, is messy when using Z3950
03:01 chris and it cant mix and match
03:01 chris basically you have to tell your z3950 client what encoding to expect
03:00 jcamins_a So the Z39.50 server changes it?
03:00 chris might not match
03:00 chris well they often do, but then what their z3950 server hands you
03:00 jcamins_a Ridiculous.
02:59 chris that would be a no
02:58 jcamins_a Do other ILSes not set the LDR/whatever to indicate UTF-8 consistently?
02:58 chris fixed now
02:58 chris we were expecting utf-8
02:58 chris te puna is encoded in marc-8
02:57 chris http://library.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=47391
02:57 chris yep, fixed in the catalogue now
02:57 pauln Chris - te puna link http://nlnzcat.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?PAGE=sbSearch&SEQ=20101021160840&PID=OidXKWLmCUeXK3jLcbXz3UTxAJHM
02:50 wizzyrea_ even though there are other available items
02:49 wizzyrea_ it won't let them renew it, because it wants to give it to the reserve
02:49 wizzyrea_ if that patron tries to renew it, and the reserve hasn't been assigned
02:49 wizzyrea_ 3 are avaliable
02:49 wizzyrea_ and you have 4 items total
02:48 wizzyrea_ so say you have a patron who has an item checked out
02:48 chris ?
02:48 wizzyrea_ hrm, there ought to be a check out override for reserves if there is at least one other item available to fill the hold
02:46 wizzyrea_ oo, pretty OPAC
02:45 chris hows that?
02:45 chris http://library.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=47391
02:45 chris fixinated
02:45 chris not utf-8
02:45 chris te puna is encoded in marc-8
02:45 chris AH HA!
02:42 chris is there a way to search te puna from the web?
02:42 chris yeah it seems to be coming across like that
02:41 pauln the te puna record looks ok to me
02:41 pauln must have, added post-training
02:39 chris you pulled that record in via z3950 eh?
02:33 pauln ok, done the mapping bit
02:32 chris that record looks messed up in te puna
02:30 chris that should fix that
02:30 chris b
02:30 chris 245
02:30 chris subtitle
02:30 chris make one called
02:30 chris then keywords to marc mapping
02:30 robin yeah, it wasn't bad when I was heading in to work.
02:29 chris if you go to admin
02:29 chris oh you can fix that subtitle thing easy
02:29 chris so its not a display thing, it got munged somewhere along the line
02:29 wizzyrea_ today was about perfect (at last earlier when we were out)
02:29 wizzyrea_ very well thanks for asking :)
02:29 robin Not been blown out to sea yet?
02:29 chris pauln: <subfield code="b">an account of the life of P?otatau Te Wherowhero, the first M?aori king /</subfield>
02:29 robin hi wizzyrea_, how's wellington been treating you?
02:29 pauln also - the 245b remainder of title does not show in opac i just noticed
02:27 * chris logs in to check the record in the db
02:27 chris that might be doing it
02:27 chris ah yeah, there is a proxy in front of it
02:27 robin but it claims it's running on IIS, so who knows what crazy it does to things.
02:27 chris nope thats messed up in the db
02:26 robin Content-Type text/html; charset=UTF-8
02:26 chris hmm or maybe not
02:25 chris i just think its not setting hte right header
02:25 pauln look at that, i came here rather than email you direct to leave you alone and you come riding along to save us anyway!
02:25 chris i think i can fix this pretty easily
02:24 pauln better work on that :)
02:24 chris yep
02:24 pauln King P�otatau is what is showing - don't even know how to type o with macron
02:23 chris ahh i think i know the problem
02:23 pauln http://library.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=47391
02:22 chris got a url pauln ?
02:22 pauln thanks masonj - its from a national library marc record so seems a bit odd
02:15 masonj if they dont its a data/encoding issue , not a display issue
02:15 masonj pauln short answer , yes
02:14 pauln hi all, Should macrons display correctly on Maori terms?
02:12 masonj http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/nsa-cartoon-animals-lure-youth-into-the-surveillance-arts/
02:05 slef bbl
02:05 slef oh well, will check in 10 or so
02:03 * slef really hopes that server is just fscking
02:01 richard lol
02:01 robin see, you can't even spell!
02:01 robin "baches" rather.
02:01 robin richard: you're the ones with your "batches"
02:01 jransom weird ...
02:01 jransom lol
02:01 richard but down their you call luncheon sausgage belgium
02:01 jransom pedestrian crossings (in Levin)
02:01 chris :)
02:01 chris but you guys are weird
02:00 chris you might
02:00 slef back home, the posts are Belisha Beacons
02:00 robin at least, in the Mainland :)
02:00 jransom not!
02:00 robin chris: we do so call them zebra crossings.
01:59 jransom slef: no I didn't know - but good to know :)
01:57 richard actually that was in poort taste, given that a policeman did use it as a target
01:57 chris :)
01:57 chris just dont cross when richard is driving apparently
01:57 chris well we dont call them zebra crossings, thats a pedistrian crossing .. and i have no idea what the post is called
01:56 richard target
01:56 slef what do you call the black/white post with orange ball by the zebra crossing?
01:56 slef finally before I screw the server...
01:55 chris yeah median
01:55 slef no, median bit
01:55 slef awww, not ghost island?
01:55 chris oh pedistrian crossing?
01:54 chris median strip
01:54 slef and jooi what do you call the white ///// area in the middle of the road?
01:54 chris chips works for both hot chips (fries in americanese) and cold chips, crisps
01:54 richard chips are chips :)
01:52 slef are chips here chips or crisps?
01:52 slef not sure if you knew
01:51 slef jransom: airport express bus stop 3 is fine for the hotel
01:50 chris stink ;(
01:50 slef not got all my keys with me. not sure if I can fix it
01:49 slef :-/
01:49 slef I've an apache server with loads of sockets stuck as syn_recv
01:47 chris ahhh
01:47 slef we were delayed by swerving to avoid a typhoon
01:46 slef magnus landed 2h before us I think
01:46 slef oic
01:39 jransom MJ: Lee is at your hotel too
01:38 jransom auckland library cafe has free wifi
01:32 chris i think he landed aroundish the same time as you
01:32 chris you didnt bump into magnus?
01:29 chris every so often you will spot a cafe with free, but they are not the majority
01:29 chris :)
01:29 slef oi I'm the one on a phone not you
01:28 chris hmm, no idea in bucklame im afraid
01:28 slef hotel wifi not good in the room
01:28 slef where's good for free wifi?
01:28 slef tomi at esquires?
01:28 chris excellent
01:27 slef seen about 5pm tomoz
01:27 chris is it cafenet? :)
01:27 chris yay
01:24 slef in auckland, having lunch at a cafe with wifi