Time  Nick        Message
00:57 chris       you're up late joetho
00:57 chris       heya irma
00:58 cait        hi irma
00:58 chris       cait!! dont you ever sleep?
00:59 slef        sleep... now there's an idea.
00:59 slef        bbl
00:59 chris       cya slef
01:09 cait        chris: i could ask you the same :)
01:09 cait        good night slef
01:09 chris       heh
01:09 cait        see you soon
01:12 cait1       I made some progess with  packing :)
01:12 chris       cool :)
01:15 cait1       about time
01:16 cait1       now it is not tomorrow, but today
01:16 cait1       today I will fly to nz
01:16 cait1       and it's partly your fault chris :)
01:16 chris       :)
01:18 cait1       ok, now time to get some sleep :)
01:18 cait1       good night all :)
02:57 Amit        heya chris
03:06 Oak         \o
07:09 cait        good morning #koha
07:09 cait        D-0
07:11 chris       How many hours?
07:15 cait        not enough
07:16 cait        4.5 until I close the door of my apartment behind me :)
07:18 chris       :)
07:34 francharb   JE PETE UN CABLE
07:50 francharb   oups sorry
07:50 francharb   no big deal
07:50 francharb   :)
08:12 slef        cait: AAAAAARGH :)
08:13 cait        AAARG!
08:13 cait        ;)
08:13 * cait      is still packing
08:13 * slef      too
08:16 cait        when do you have to leave?
08:20 slef        after lunch
08:20 slef        ****ing airport is near London, three counties away
08:25 slef        I've a decided suspicion that I'm going to be configuring my computers for remote access after I start travelling. Again. :-/
08:37 cait        @wunder auckland
08:37 munin       cait: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 13.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
08:37 cait        @wunder Konstanz
08:37 munin       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 5.8�C (10:48 AM CEST on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Falling).
08:37 * cait      looks forward to a bit warmer temperatures :)
08:37 cait        @wunder wellington nz
08:37 munin       cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
08:38 cait        @wunder zürich
08:38 munin       cait: Error: No such location could be found.
08:38 cait        @wunder zurich
08:38 munin       cait: Error: No such location could be found.
08:49 chris       oh cool olubenga is staying for the developer conference too
08:49 chris       and the guys from the solomon islands
08:50 cait        :)
08:50 cait        how many people are at the dev conf?
08:51 chris       i thinki about 26
08:53 chris       i reckon for a 105 person conference we have the most diverse audience, people from all over the world
09:04 cait        :)
09:04 * cait      hopes that suitcase is not too heavy
09:04 cait        and the old laptop weighs a lot :(
09:04 wasabi      heya cait
09:04 cait        hi wasabi
09:25 chris       hi hdl, off to the airport soon?
09:25 hdl         hi chris at the airport now
09:26 chris       ahh i hope the strike isnt messing thigns up?
09:27 hdl         We really do our best to avoid strikes.
09:28 chris       flights all still on time?
09:28 hdl         well, we have 3 hours to wait in Amsterdam
09:28 hdl         Before taking of to kuala Lumpur.
09:29 hdl         many many cancelled.
09:29 wasabi      heya hdl
09:29 hdl         Hi Mason
09:30 wasabi      ive been reading the news re: france striking too
09:30 chris       ahh but you made to amsterdam, thats good :)
09:37 * chris     goes to sleep, safe travels
09:38 cait        thx chris
09:38 cait        oh, this was for hdl :)
09:39 hdl         hi cait
09:39 hdl         I think it was for you either.
09:39 * cait      is still running around her apartment packing and panicking
09:39 cait        hope you have no problems with your flights too and looking forward to meet you and pual
09:39 cait        paul
09:58 cait        @wunder auckland
09:58 munin       cait: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 13.0�C (11:00 PM NZDT on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
10:34 slef        chris: good, good, so my NZ bit won't be too excruciating for most of the audience :)
10:34 cait        hm?
10:34 cait        yay - suitcase is 20 kg - 3 under limit
10:35 slef        [10:04]<chris> i reckon for a 105 person conference we have the most diverse audience, people from all over the world
10:35 slef        I'm still loading my suitcase. Remembered I need to do some banking first.
10:37 cait        1 hour...
10:37 cait        still a lot to do
10:37 cait        and I have this feeling I forgot something really important :(
11:42 cait        @wunder auckland
11:43 munin       cait: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 14.0�C (12:00 AM NZDT on October 20, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
11:43 cait        @wunder london
11:43 munin       cait: Error: No such location could be found.
11:43 cait        @wunder london uk
11:43 munin       cait: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 13.0�C (12:20 PM BST on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
11:43 cait        @wunder bangkok
11:43 munin       cait: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
11:43 cait        @wunder sydney
11:43 munin       cait: Error: No such location could be found.
11:44 jwagner     cait, I take it you're getting ready to go?
11:45 cait        not ready
11:45 cait        but I am leaving :)
11:46 jwagner     Well, that's the important part :-)
11:46 jwagner     Have a good safe trip
11:46 cait        thank you :)
11:47 cait        ok, leaving to nz - see you all soon, online or real :)
11:48 jwagner     Bye!
11:48 braedon     @wunder auckland
11:48 munin       braedon: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 14.0�C (12:00 AM NZDT on October 20, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
12:09 kmkale      hi all
12:10 slef        hi kmkale
12:10 kmkale      hi slef
12:10 slef        Anyone know if NZ has nasty insects? Not in my guide book either way.
12:11 braedon     not really, apart from mozzies :P
12:11 braedon     we do have a few white tail spiders, but not particularly common
12:12 slef        mozzies now? If so, I'll bring DEET
12:12 slef        evil but effective
12:12 braedon     not many mozzies atm, too early
12:12 braedon     not sure what their populations are like in welly...
12:13 slef        I hoped they might have missed NZ :)
12:13 braedon     alas, no
12:13 slef        thanks for the info
12:13 braedon     no probs
12:14 kmkale      need some help in understanding /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl  -itemscontent & <<items.content>> placeholder
12:16 kmkale      do I put the <<items.content>> placeholder in the notice text & then give a comma separated list of fields while invoking like overdue_notices.pl -itemscontent biblioitems.biblioitemnumber,biblioitems.itemtype,biblio.title,biblio.author ??
12:19 jwagner     kmkale, yes, I think that's the way to do it.  On the crontab line, but the fields in the order you want them to show.
12:20 jwagner     s/but/put/
12:21 kmkale      jwagner: So in the notice template its just the <<items.content>> NOT the fields themselves. Right?
12:23 jwagner     Yes, I think so.
12:25 kmkale      OK got it. Its just without the tabel name prefixes. i.e. just biblioitemnumber
12:29 kmkale      Can I put html in the notice template?
12:30 owen        I doubt it kmkale
12:31 owen        The notices system would have to be specifically set up to send the right kind of content and I don't think it is
12:31 kmkale      :)
12:31 jwagner     We've not had any luck trying to put html codes in the notice text itself, like trying to bold something.
12:31 kmkale      The items info wont align.
12:31 kmkale      so thought I should just ask ;)
12:32 kmkale      I guess we will have to set it up as html mail first?
12:39 David       How would I change languages for Koha?
12:42 hdl         ./translate install list_of_languages
12:42 hdl         install languages
12:42 hdl         And then you can get to language system preferences
12:42 David       where do I find ./translate?
12:45 owen        David: That's at the command line
12:46 David       owen, but where is the "translate" command located?  Like which directory?  I'm in /koha/misc/translator but I don't see it in there.
12:48 hdl         misc/translator
12:48 hdl         David which version are you working on ?
12:53 David       Koha version:
12:57 hdl         David in that case, use install-code.pl language
12:57 hdl         and not translate
12:57 hdl         (translate is shipped with 3.2)
12:57 David       :-/  Maybe I should look into using 3.2  Is there an easy upgrade script or is it manually done?
12:58 David       When I run ./install-code.pl fr for example, I get nothing back on the command line, but I also don't get have french as a language in the admin settings
12:58 hdl         install-code.pl fr-FR
12:58 hdl         Not install-code.pl fr
12:59 David       ah, so what would it be for am?
13:00 David       So I'm guessing I need to upgrade if I get this back?:
13:00 David       fr-FR-i-opac-t-prog-v-3000000.po : opac ../../koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/: Input must be a file or directory. (Symbolic links are not supported at the moment)
13:14 schuster    jwagner got a moment?
13:15 jwagner     yep
13:27 magnus      hiya #koha - checking in from LHN...
13:29 jwagner     Hi magnus -- hope you have a good flight!
13:31 magnus      thanks, jwagner - very ok so far, but this is where the heavy stuff starts...
13:31 jwagner     Maybe I'll get to visit Australia & New Zealand when I retire & can take a ship across the Pacific.  I don't really think I could manage 16-18 hours in a plane....
13:36 magnus      yeah, lots of time and a boat would have been nice, but LAX-AKL is "only" 12 hours...
13:37 jwagner     And DC to LAX is another 6-7...
13:38 magnus      yeah, but you could ride a motorbike or something... ;-)
13:41 jwagner     No thanks.  I don't do motorbikes....
13:42 magnus      ride a horse, then? ;-)
13:43 jwagner     Trains.  Now if only we had a nice efficient national train system like Europe does.
13:46 jcamins     Good morning, #koha
13:52 magnus      g'day jcamins
13:53 jcamins     magnus: when's your next flight?
13:55 magnus      16.15 england time
13:55 jcamins     Which is in... 5 minutes?
13:55 jcamins     no, 1:05?
13:56 magnus      hope so... ;-)
13:56 magnus      yeah
13:57 magnus      guess i better find find my gate - have fun, #koha!
14:18 jcamins     I guess #koha is going to be very quiet in the morning, now, since everyone is in NZ.
14:20 owen        And we're going to miss most of the fun unless we stay on after work hours
14:20 jcamins     If anyone's here, any comments on the idea of having Edit Items automatically edit the first item, rather than bringing up an add item screen?
14:20 jcamins     "Work hours"?
14:21 * jcamins   thinks he may have heard that term before, but he's not really sure what it means...
14:21 sekjal      jcamins: it would make sense to automatically edit the first item.  would save a click for all the times where there is only one time per biblio
14:22 jcamins     Yeah, that's what I thought.
14:22 owen        What if someone really did want to add an item?
14:22 jcamins     Shouldn't they click "Add Item"?
14:22 jcamins     There should also be an "Add New Item" button, and not just a "Save Changes" button.
14:23 owen        Depends... How did they get to that page?
14:23 jcamins     The way I'm doing it is clicking "Edit"->"Edit Items."
14:23 jcamins     And every time I'm surprised by the fact that it doesn't actually edit the item.
14:24 jcamins     Well, now I'm getting used to it.
14:24 jcamins     Kind of.
14:24 owen        jcamins: The trouble is the "edit" button is biblio-level, so how can it tell which item you want to edit?
14:24 jcamins     I'd have it default to the first. It doesn't add any additional step if you want to edit the second.
14:25 jcamins     (i.e. you still have to click the "Edit" link)
14:28 owen        Once you have an item open for editing, there's no way to get to a blank Add form
14:29 jcamins     I guess we need another button for "Clear," then.
14:29 owen        I wonder if you could add a tab with a blank form
14:30 jcamins     Or add an additional row to the table which says "New" instead of "Edit."
14:32 sekjal      what about moving the item list a vertical menu on the right, with 'new' being either at the top or bottom (or both)?
14:33 jcamins     I think we need to keep the table, since it helps to have all the information visible at once.
14:34 sekjal      Or making the Add/Edit form float overtop of the table in a lightbox-kinda deal.
14:35 sekjal      with 'Add' and 'Clear' buttons at the top, above the table?
14:38 jcamins     That seems reasonable. Well, other than the fact that I don't think I would be able to do that. ;)
14:39 sekjal      we've currently got three different views on the item information:  the table on the Normal page, the more drawn-out Items tab, and the table on the Edit Items screen
14:46 jcamins     I think perhaps my first patch will automatically edit the first one and add "Add New" and "Clear" buttons to the Edit Items screen.
14:46 jcamins     Then I/we can refine it.
14:47 owen        Why the "clear" button if we have an "add new" button?
14:48 slef        1h down, 31 to go
14:49 jcamins     owen: I thought one of your objections was that the fields would be pre-set? "Clear" would be so that you could clear all the fields (essentially go back to the current "Edit items" page).
14:49 nengard     holy cow!! i'm packed and checked in!!
14:49 nengard     drop the pups off at a friends tonight and then leave first thing tomorrow
14:50 slef        nengard: which airline?
14:50 slef        airNZ didn't offer us online checkin :-/
14:51 nengard     slef - oh - V australia didn't have online checkin either - I'm checked in for my flight to California
14:51 kmkale      bye all
14:51 slef        nengard: oic
14:51 slef        moving again so bbl
14:51 nengard     kind of annoying really
14:51 slef        V = virgin?
14:52 slef        if so, they usually offer it
14:54 owen        jcamins: I think the "add new" button is sufficient, since it results in a blank form
14:54 owen        I think in general "Clear" buttons are dangerous
14:55 jcamins     Okay, "Save Changes," "Clone Item," and "Add New" buttons.
15:06 chris       well that sux
15:06 jcamins     chris: isn't it kind of early in NZ?
15:07 chris       poor olugbenga, after getting an nz visa and buying his tickets, finds out that he has to get a transit visa for australia
15:07 jcamins     Oh no!
15:07 chris       which they decline, for no reason
15:07 chris       well, they give him no reason why they declined it
15:08 jcamins     And I guess it can't be appealed?
15:08 jcamins     Or, at least, not in time?
15:09 chris       yeah, probably not
15:09 chris       so he's out 2,500$ and we are out a great presentation ;(
15:10 chris       (kohacon mails make my computer beep, thats why im awake)
15:10 chris       http://twitter.com/#!/paul_poulain/status/27842489769
15:10 chris       its all drama all the time!
15:11 chris       nengard: i just double cheked, you dont need a transit visa, you are on the list of countries who can transit without one
15:11 nengard     chris - good to know - cause I didn't think I needed one either
15:11 chris       i think only brown people do, that seems to be the rule
15:11 chris       which fits with australia
15:12 nengard     brown?
15:12 chris       yeah, australia is pretty good with institutionalised racism
15:13 nengard     wow!
15:16 chris       i mean that dont say that .. but that the list of countries that need visas does :)
15:16 chris       pretty crap that they can block someone who has a visa to visit nz, from getting there .. retarded
15:19 * chris     has emailed all  the people he can think of, and now will try to go back to sleep
15:19 jcamins     "name in ethnic script"?
15:43 slef        tunnels ahoj.
15:52 brendan     morning
15:52 jcamins     Morning.
15:53 Barrc       Has anyone else noticed a "Term Highlighting" problem in 3.2? I know there is a bug reported for the results screen (turn of XSLDisplay shows hightlights) but the problem I am seeing is also in the detail screen
15:54 owen        We don't have term highlighting on the detail page
15:54 jcamins     Barrc: what owen said.
15:54 Barrc       Ah, that would be the problem then!
15:55 Barrc       Has this been feature requeted....is there major issues with doing it?
15:55 owen        Barrc: The issue at the moment is that Koha doesn't remember your search terms on the detail page
15:56 Barrc       OK, that makes sense. I might take a look at adding it myself, time permitting
15:58 owen        Barrc: See also Bug 3075
15:58 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3075 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, return to search results on detail page
15:58 owen        The two issues might be solved in tandem
16:02 Barrc       looks reasonable handy.....session id's could be the way.......
16:03 owen        Barrc: Also look at the "search history" feature
16:04 owen        ( I guess that's mentioned in the bug report )
16:04 owen        and note bug 4029
16:04 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4029 normal, P5, ---, matthias.meusburger, NEW, OPAC search history doesn't correctly store advanced searches
16:05 Barrc       Right....plenty there to confuse me for a while!
16:38 Nate        Hello #koha!
16:38 brendan     hi nate
16:45 * jcamins   thinks Nate may be having some trouble with his internet connection.
16:47 brendan     heya - I think he's trying new toys out
17:30 nengard     it's so quiet in here - is everyone on a plane?
17:30 brendan     boo
17:30 nengard     what new toys does Nate have??
17:33 brendan     @wunder 93117
17:33 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.8�C (10:40 AM PDT on October 19, 2010). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Rising).
17:35 schuster    yes it is going to be quiet here until Koha-Con starts I am afraid...  we will all have to comizzerate...
17:35 brendan     heya schuster
17:35 nengard     schuster - i'll be on a plane tomorrow, just wondering where everyone is today
17:47 schuster    Paul, Plane - cait - Plane -
17:48 schuster    wizzyrea - there...  jealous...
17:48 jcamins     slef - leaving for the plane
17:48 * chris_n   thinks the better part of koha devs are up in the air for the next day or so :)
17:48 schuster    26 for the developer conference part...  cool...  now I REALLY wish I was going to be there.
17:49 schuster    chris_n are you getting to go?
17:49 * chris_n   wishes :-(
17:49 schuster    same here...  just couldn't justify almost 2 full weeks - travel recovery fun weekend etc...
17:50 schuster    My employer wouldn't have understood the Sat/Sunday sight seeing part and I would have had to pay for that, but then my Wife wouldn't understand it when she was here with the 2 boys...
17:57 owen        All the Koha devs are required to take *separate* planes to prevent a crisis in the event of a crash
17:58 nengard     owen, sekjal and I are on the same one ... uh oh :)
17:59 jcamins     owen: good!
17:59 jcamins     Fortunately chris already lives in NZ.
17:59 jcamins     Of course, he takes a bus every day!-
18:03 Sharon      wizzyrea happens to work for a very understanding big boss - he let her and her husband leave for 3 weeks
18:07 jcamins     Does Mr. wizzyrea also work for the library?
18:07 jcamins     I hadn't realized that.
18:18 owen        speak of the devil
18:19 wizzyre-1   whoa
18:19 wizzyre-1   am I the devil?
18:19 jcamins     wizzyre-1: Sharon was talking about you, at least.
18:19 wizzyre-1   ah
18:20 jcamins     I was talking about Mr. wizzyrea, saying I hadn't realized he worked for the library, too.
18:20 Sharon      yep, i get them both...in the same office ;-)
18:22 jcamins     wizzyre-1: how's NZ?
18:23 wizzyre-1   beautiful, fragrant, and wonderful. :)
18:23 * jcamins   wishes he got to go to NZ this year
18:26 * owen      wants to buy his ticket for KohaCon 2011 now
18:26 * jcamins   wants KohaCon 2011 to be somewhere he can get to, now.
18:27 Sharon      France?
18:28 owen        We've got slef in England, paul_p et al in France, magnus in Norway, cait in Germany
18:28 owen        Lots of good choices
18:29 nengard     i vote england :)
18:30 jcamins     I vote somewhere within easy reach of Oxford.
18:30 jcamins     Or Saint Petersburg (Russia).
18:30 jcamins     :)
18:30 collum      A central location for these folks would be Amsterdam.
18:30 owen        nengard: Sure, you've already visited magnus haven't you?
18:30 nengard     I have
18:30 collum      Oooh.  Saint Petersburg.  Would be nice.
18:31 * owen      has been to France and Germany but never England or Norway
18:31 nengard     never been to france or germany - except airports
18:31 Sharon      pick someplace with direct flights
18:31 Sharon      Frankfurt?
18:32 collum      Been to Germany on the military plan.  It was gorgeous.
18:32 jcamins     Sharon: isn't that one of the appeals of Amsterdam?
18:32 owen        I'd definitely pick Amsterdam over Frankfurt... but who's in Amsterdam to host us?
18:32 Sharon      That and the Heinie museum
18:32 Sharon      and Bob's youth hostel...I'd have to visit it for old time's sake.  God bless Amsterdam
18:32 * wizzyre-1 imagines the heinie museum, giggles
18:33 * wizzyre-1 then realizes it's *beer*, not butts.
18:33 Sharon      those would be over in the wax museum
18:33 * jcamins   thought that was a name
18:34 Sharon      i can't spell Heinekin Heiniken
18:35 Sharon      beer, green bottle, yummie...
18:35 owen        Heineken
18:36 Sharon      see
18:36 owen        Firefox's spell checker knows it, whaddaya know.
18:39 jcamins     You know, I never realized that Heineken was a Dutch brand.
18:40 Sharon      the brewery tour is a hoot...they knew we were only on it for the free beer at the end
18:41 jcamins     I went on a tour of the Whiskey museum in Edinburgh. Turns out I don't like whiskey.
18:43 sekjal      from what I recall, Frankfurt is comparatively inexpensive to get international flights into.
18:43 jcamins     It was a perfectly fine museum, but it did make the whole thing seem rather... pointless. ;)
18:43 jcamins     For those of us in the States, there's Iceland Air.
18:43 Sharon      is there a koha library in heidelberg
18:44 Sharon      not far from frankfurt and much nicer place to visit
18:44 jcamins     Ooh, I bet there are printing museums in Heidelberg!
18:45 jcamins     Frankfurt has more direct flights, apparently.
18:45 jcamins     I guess JFK is a KLM hub.
18:45 jcamins     I didn't realize that. I just thought that there were lots of direct flights to Amsterdam.
18:47 Sharon      I took KLM to London, nice airline...but flew home out of Frankfurt
18:48 jcamins     I flew from Edinburgh to NYC (and back, and forth, and back, and forth) with KLM.
18:49 jcamins     Always the same flight, too... the flight attendant recognized me the last time.
18:50 Sharon      fun
18:54 collum      nengard still around?
18:54 nengard     kinda :)
18:54 collum      I signed up for you survey but never recieved an email.
18:55 collum      Should I sign up again with another address?
19:06 nengard     hmmm - having problems with that darn thing ... grrr
19:07 nengard     i thought letting people sign up and save would be helpful
19:07 nengard     others have gotten their emails - let me find yours
19:16 jcamins     My library school has the highest average full-time salary for graduates who reported their salary in 2009.
19:17 jcamins     In another example of "let's play with statistics to make the job market sound good," they ignore the fact that only 2/3 of the people who got jobs reported their salaries, and only a small percentage of graduates got jobs.
19:18 richard     hi
19:18 chris       Olugbenga is officially my hero
19:18 jcamins     chris: did he manage to get the transit visa?
19:18 slef        chris?
19:18 chris       He is now trying to organise to go via hk
19:18 chris       At considerable extra expense
19:19 slef        wow... bbl
19:20 chris       So soon as I get to my desk I have to try the cheapest way for him to get from akl to wlg
19:20 chris       And the cheapest accomodation
19:20 chris       That's commitment ... when I say considerable its in the order of 5k
19:24 chris       He sure as hell won't be paying for any of his meals when he is hear if I have anything to do with it
19:24 chris       Here even
19:27 chris       Stupid australia
19:32 brendan     heh blame australia
19:33 chris       Transit visa is bogus, just don't let ppl leave the terminal
19:33 reva        Hi anyone, my 505 (Contents note) field is not showing in OPAC in the description tab. It shows fine in the description tab in staff side. What should I turn on to have it display the 505 contents note field? Thanks for any help.
19:34 chris       My stop bbiab
19:35 ronald      why QueryAutoTruncate search not working? i need other permission
19:37 ronald      if i use har* (harry) not working QueryAutoTruncate
19:37 jcamins     ronald: what version of Koha are you on?
19:38 ronald      3.0.2
19:38 ronald      3.0.2
19:38 ronald      3.0.2
19:38 jcamins     Hm. That's quite an old version.
19:38 ronald      so? not working QueryAutoTruncate?
19:39 reva        Can anyone help me with the 505 field not displaying in OPAC description tab?
19:39 jcamins     I have no idea. I use Koha 3.2, and never tried using 3.0.2.
19:40 jcamins     ronald: according to the documentation, you shouldn't use an asterisk if you have QueryAutoTruncate enabled.
19:41 ronald      yes i do...
19:41 ronald      i use...example har*
19:41 ronald      for search harry
19:41 ronald      but not working
19:41 jcamins     ronald: do you have QueryAutoTruncate turned on?
19:43 ronald      yes
19:43 jcamins     Okay.
19:43 jcamins     Try searching for "har" (without an asterisk).
19:43 collum      nengard: OK.  Sorry I had to step away for a few minutes.
19:43 ronald      ok
19:43 nengard     np - will get to it when i'm done with work - trying to do a migration :)
19:46 chris       back
19:47 ronald      not working
19:47 chris       are you using zebra
19:47 chris       ?
19:47 ronald      who?
19:47 ronald      me?
19:48 chris       yes
19:48 reva        which tables do I tie the 505 $t and $g to, to have it display in OPAC (under the description tab)? Please anyone?
19:48 ronald      yes
19:48 ronald      i use zebra
19:49 ronald      whit zebra QueryAutoTruncate not work¿?
19:49 nengard     collum sent a reminder email - let me know if  you get it
19:50 chris       ronald: i works in the versions ive used, maybe you might need to upgrade to 3.0.6 ?
19:51 ronald      but whit 3.0.2 not?
19:51 collum      nengard: Got it.  Thanks.
19:51 chris       ronald: i thought it did, i dont have a 3.0.2 to test though
19:54 ronald      chirs in 3.0.6 work good?
19:57 chris       as far as i know yes
19:58 jcamins     ronald: you have records in your system that include the word "harry," right?
19:59 ronald      yes,
20:01 reva        Hi, what should I do to have the 505 $g and $t to show in OPAC description tab? I would appreciate some help. Right now, it is not associated with any table (such biblio.note). But it shows in the staff side description tab.
20:02 Brendan-O   @wunder 93117
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20:02 Brendan-O   Thunderstorm - haven't had one in two years
20:03 * Brendan-O which one am I
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20:04 jcamins     reva: I don't think anything other than 505$a is displayed.
20:05 reva        Why is that jcamins? I mean I would like it to display the table of contents to the user without them having to go to the MARC display?
20:05 jcamins     Because no one added that feature.
20:06 reva        Is it not available in the 3.2 either?
20:06 jcamins     Not yet, no.
20:07 jcamins     I think I recall someone talking about adding it, but I don't think anyone has yet.
20:09 chris_n     reva: we display 505$t in our opac
20:10 reva        Also I came across a strange problem the other day: I input a rather long 245a title. It would not let me save it unless I input something in 245b. (We do have perfectly good records where we do not have the remainder of the title.) I imported it from Columbia University Z39.50 search. ISBN: 9766001464.
20:11 reva        chris_n what version are you using. Mine is 3.0.6
20:11 chris_n     but I had to mod it up
20:11 reva        what is mod it up, chris_n?
20:11 chris_n     3.2.rc
20:12 chris_n     om
20:14 reva        chris_n, I do not know what mod it up is. Also please try importing the record from Columbia through z39.50. Try saving it and see if it complains "at least one 245 subfield must be filled." I had to go into $b and input a space before it will let me save it.
20:15 chris_n     sorry reva, I'm about to leave and so don't have time for that today, however, see this link for the modifications we're running to show 505$t:
20:15 chris_n     http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-fbc.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-detail.tmpl;h=1244423d44556aedb53e8ebd85533951a92f1677;hb=2563bdfbf261d348652dcb0108dbe1b34de93b22#l505
20:16 chris_n     sorry for the long url
20:16 jcamins     reva: "mod it up" means that chris_n had to write the code to display the 505 himself.
20:16 jcamins     As for importing the record from Columbia, I really don't have time, sorry.
20:17 chris_n     bbl
20:18 reva        ok. I guess someone will have to learn that here. I have given the ISBN for the record that could not be saved without 245$b above. Please tyr out and see if it is a  bug. As you can see the title is unusually long. Maybe that is why.
20:19 reva        I do not mean today, sometime as you might want to know if it is some idiosyncracy in the imported record itself or a bug.
20:20 reva        Thanks to both of you jcamins and chris_n.
20:23 chris       http://twitter.com/paul_poulain/status/27846304710
20:24 chris       france picked the wrong week to go on strike
20:24 jcamins     Thank goodness he decided to put in that crazy 24-hour stopover.
20:25 chris       yep
20:26 chris       well, lee is in auckland by now, magnus is in the air
20:26 chris       and cait too .. and liz is already here .. so at least some people made it hehe
20:26 jcamins     slef isn't flying through France, is he?
20:27 chris       i dont think so
20:27 chris       he is on a train to london at the mo i think
20:28 chris       bonjour irma
20:28 irma        bonjour ca va?
20:29 chris       tre bien
20:29 chris       (is that spelt right?)
20:29 jcamins     *tres
20:29 chris       tres maybe
20:29 chris       thanks
20:29 chris       my phonetic french spelling :)
20:29 jcamins     Unless you were thinking of Catalan, in which case that might be right.
20:30 jcamins     No, "very" in Catalan is "molt."
20:32 chris       :)
20:35 chris       heya Nate
20:36 chris       how many hours to go ?
20:38 chris       ahh kids
20:38 chris       (20/10/10 08:18:24) lazza barr: i came in and bud was trying to eat his cereal with his spoon between his toes
20:38 chris       (bud is our nickname for kahu)
20:39 Nate        hi chris
20:39 chris       thats what you have to look forward to Brendan-O
20:39 chris       heya Nate :)
20:40 Nate        I leave in about 20 hours for NZ!
20:40 chris       sweet :)
20:41 jcamins     chris: but did he manage it?
20:41 Brendan-O   can't wait chris - really excited to meet little girl
20:41 chris       jcamins: he probably did :)
20:43 jcamins     Excellent! Your son is already discovering heretofore unlooked-for talents. :)
20:46 jcamins     And with that, I'm closing up shop for the day.
20:46 jcamins     Good night, #koha.
23:24 cait        hi #koha
23:24 cait        chris, magnus, slef or jo around?
23:25 chris       i am
23:25 chris       where you? uk?
23:25 cait        I am staying overnight in london
23:25 cait        flight from zürich to london was delayed so I missed my flight zu sydney :(
23:25 chris       :( how annoying
23:25 chris       did they pay for your accom?
23:25 cait        yep very annoyig
23:25 cait        they did
23:26 chris       small mercies
23:26 cait        and I am eve happier now - because I was allowed to change rooms to non smoker
23:26 chris       so you will get into auckland a day late?
23:26 cait        non smoking room? whatever, it's better
23:26 cait        yep
23:26 chris       gah!
23:26 cait        they booked me on the same flight - but one day later
23:26 cait        loosing 24 hours :(
23:26 chris       yeah, do you still arrive in time for the road trip?
23:26 cait        I think so
23:26 chris       thats good
23:27 cait        hoped that jo would be online, but can write her an email
23:27 cait        perhaps it would be good to call the hotel?
23:27 chris       yes, cant hurt
23:56 cait        oh, can you tell magnus if you see him?
23:56 cait        I was supposed to meet him at the hotel
23:57 chris       i will do