Time Nick Message 00:01 wasabi oops, i take that back 00:04 chris :) 00:08 slef chris: which gitorious branch is meant to be k-c.org head? 00:10 chris hmm, i havent pushed for quite a while 00:10 chris lemme look 00:11 chris (not master anyway, i push the translation branch quite a bit for backup purposes) 00:11 chris i think master 2 secs ill go update it 00:14 slef cool, ta 00:24 chris done, master it is 00:24 chris http://gitorious.org/koha/mainline/commits/master 00:39 slef ok... checking my copy 00:41 slef seems to work - what's the recommended workflow now? branch per bug? 00:41 * slef goes to read the wiki 00:42 chris yeah that works 00:42 chris branch per bug, then either submit a pull request or patches 00:42 chris colin will then pull or apply, and send me a pull request if passes qa ok 00:43 chris and ill pull it into a branch, and then merge it 00:43 chris for now, ill just pull it into a branch 00:43 chris will merge it once rel_3_2 is branched 00:49 slef ok, have created enh_bulkmarcimport because there's actually no bug for that change (I thought there was but I can't find it now) 00:49 slef I'll look up how to submit a pull request now 00:50 chris ah 00:50 chris 2 secs i wrote that up somwehere 00:51 chris http://galencharlton.com/blog/?p=10#comments 00:51 chris fix the email address of course 00:52 * chris adds another comment to that effect 00:52 slef aha, cool 00:52 chris ok meeting time, bbiab 00:53 slef hrm, that seems to request lots else 00:54 slef or at least include log lines for it 01:05 slef ok, sorting out my confusion 01:37 ebegin Hey, am I the only want scratching his head to understand the logic behind the basket groups? 01:37 ebegin s/want/one 01:38 chris no 01:39 ebegin :) 01:39 ebegin Can we consider this as an 3.2 incompleted feature? 01:39 chris i think we need to ask biblibre how it is meant to work 01:41 slef ebegin should harangue them in their own language until they do :) 01:41 chris :) 01:42 ebegin Mais bien sur! Hehe... I'll send Paul an email about that 01:43 ebegin But I'm glad to see that I'm not crazy (yet) 01:46 slef ebegin: not yet. Are you going to NZ? 01:47 ebegin Unfortunatly I wont :( I wish I could. 02:01 richard we've elected a new mayor for kohacon - http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/local-elections-2010/4228521/New-mayor-for-capital 02:04 ebegin Will she be at Kohacon? 02:05 chris heh she works next door 02:05 chris you never know 02:05 chris the conference is literally right next door to the mayors office 02:05 chris we will be definitely meeting the mayor of horowhenua though :) 02:09 ebegin @wunder NZ 02:09 munin ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. 02:09 ebegin @wunder wellington NZ 02:09 munin ebegin: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (3:00 PM NZDT on October 13, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 02:10 ebegin @wunder montreal canada 02:10 munin ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 6.0�C (10:00 PM EDT on October 12, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Rising). 02:24 jcamins Ooh, bug. 02:25 jcamins In the OPAC, if you add an entire page of results to your shelf, then go to the next page and add all those bibs, it tells you that nothing's been added, but it did, in fact, add the bibs. 02:28 jcamins Wait, no. 02:28 jcamins That's not the bug. 02:29 jcamins Hm. 02:29 jcamins I don't know what the bug is. 02:29 jcamins (how's that for an awesome bug report) 02:29 jcamins *? 02:29 chris thats pretty normal 02:30 chris sad but true :) 02:32 jcamins You know what I would like? A mouse-over record preview. 02:32 chris in the staff interface? 02:32 jcamins I was thinking of in the OPAC, but staff interface would work too. 02:33 chris would have to be a pref for the opac, it could annoy people 02:33 jcamins Oh, certainly. 02:33 jcamins And mostly I would keep it turned off. 02:33 chris so being able to turn it on and off 02:33 chris like the highlighting 02:33 chris so a cookie based pref 02:33 chris might be something fun for the hackfest :) 02:34 robin we made something that whenever an error was detected, it dumped the entire DOM including all values for everything. That made tracking down where bugs where coming from a lot easier. 02:34 jcamins But I can definitely see instances when that would be useful. 02:34 jcamins robin: but how do you detect an error? 02:35 robin well, in this case, it was when the exception handler caught an otherwise-untrapped exception. 02:35 robin But if you had a little "report a bug" thing on pages, you could do the same. 02:35 jcamins Ooh, that would be awesome! 02:36 jcamins robin++ # for volunteering to implement a "report a bug" widget which includes a DOM capture 02:36 robin we also had the advantage of access to all the data to test with, which you won't have here. 02:36 robin haha 02:36 robin I'll get back to you on that :) 02:36 jcamins *which _optionally_ includes a DOM capture 02:37 jcamins Why is Zebra suddenly acting wonky for me? 02:37 jcamins No, never mind. I don't want to know. 02:37 jcamins It's quarter to 11 at night, and I just want to finish my work and go to sleep. 02:37 jcamins ;) 03:14 ebegin An easy question here... what does the i in gist for? Goods I??? Services taxe? 03:16 chris i have no idea 03:16 chris its something the biblibrans made up :) 03:16 chris in nz its GST 03:17 ebegin here to... 03:17 ebegin Hmm... Maybe it for Gi S T :) 03:19 ebegin We actually have 2 taxes here in canada. GST and PST (Provincial Sales Tax). 03:19 ebegin And the worst is that the GST in computed over the PST. 03:20 chris ouch! 03:21 ebegin So, if you but something for 100$, you have 7.5% of PST. And the GST applies on the 100$ + 7.50$ 03:21 ebegin GST is 5% 03:21 chris gst is 15 here 03:21 chris (as of 1st october) 03:22 ebegin So how effectve taxe rate is acutally 12.875%. 03:22 ebegin how much was is before oct. 1st? 03:23 chris 12.5 03:23 ebegin You should have held KohaCon in September ;) 03:25 chris heh 03:28 ebegin Where those pdfformat::layout3pages comes from... ? 03:29 ebegin forget it. I got it acqui/pdfformat/ 05:44 CGI875 help how to login in intranet via remote computer? 05:45 CGI875 http://172.xx.x.xx 05:45 CGI875 http://172.xx.x.xx will yield me opac 05:45 CGI875 but i want to go the intranet 05:45 CGI875 i've been figuring this out for 3 days but still can't 05:52 chris by default it will be on port 8080 05:57 saqib hi 06:04 CGI875 i tried that chris but still was not able to connect 06:05 chris what version of koha? 06:07 saqib hi 07:21 CGI658 hello everybody 07:22 CGI658 in witch site to downlooad koha 3.0.6 07:23 chris koha-community.org/download 07:23 chris sorry this one 07:24 chris http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ 07:26 CGI658 becouse in http://download.koha.org/koha-3.00.06.tar.gz it was with big problems 07:26 CGI658 no images etc... 07:27 chris weird, it works for others 07:28 chris it hasnt changed since may, and its worked fine for lots of people 07:29 CGI658 in witch download source are made the recent changes and fix bugs 07:31 chris that is still the most recent stable release, there is a release candidate for 3.2.0 if you want to try that, otherwise you can clone the git repository 07:33 CGI658 version 3.2 is not stable and im afraid because im setting up multi-library 07:34 CGI658 if i install an unstable version can i upgrade to a stable version when is available without reinstallin 07:36 wasabi yes, choose a dev/git install... 07:40 wasabi CGI658 http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 08:01 cait @wunder Wellington nz 08:01 munin cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on October 13, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 08:02 cait @wunder Auckland nz 08:02 munin cait: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 15.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on October 13, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising). 08:02 chris cait: did you see the live page? 08:02 cait no 08:02 cait had no time to catch up with all mails 08:02 chris http://www.kohacon10.org.nz/live/ 08:08 wasabi oooh, it works 08:10 chris heh 08:10 wasabi with js, no flash.... 08:11 chris oh cool 08:11 chris there is an rss feed 08:11 chris too 08:14 kmkale hi chris 08:14 chris hi kmkale 08:14 cait bye all :) 08:14 chris whats new? 08:14 chris cya cait 08:17 kmkale not much chris. getting projects unrelated to Koha. so feeling a bit utof touch 08:17 kmkale s/utof/outof 08:23 magnus g'day #koha! D-6! 08:23 chris heya magnus 08:24 magnus hi chris 09:07 kmkale is there a way I can see new sysprefs ( if any ) added in 3.2 rc? 09:08 chris new since when? 09:10 chris http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=history;f=installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql;h=8bfed37a48df123abbef7c30b05f3f8413c2ad76;hb=df47a149b0a251c7705f3dfa53a1553277cc17d6 09:10 chris if you do a git diff on that file from whatever commit to now, you should see them all 09:15 kmkale cool 09:28 * chris goes to sleep hoping 09:28 chris that no new nastiness overnight 09:28 chris night all 10:07 kmkale @weather Mumbai 10:07 munin kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 31.0�C (3:10 PM IST on October 13, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 10:07 kmkale @seen owen 10:07 munin kmkale: owen was last seen in #koha 14 hours, 58 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <owen> It could be an amazing coincidence 10:07 kmkale @later tell owen need help re bug 4440 10:07 munin kmkale: The operation succeeded. 11:42 CGI273 hi 12:30 chris_n http://www.virginia.edu/uvatoday/newsRelease.php?id=13117 12:51 ebegin paul_p, hdl : Can you give an overview of the Basket groups feature? 12:53 ebegin or point me toward documentaion about it 13:34 slef Is there a list of attendees for kohacon? 13:37 nengard slef i know chris was talking about publishing that - but i don't think there is 13:38 slef nengard: just unidly wondering who will be there. I know now ebegin won't :-( 13:39 nengard yeah a list would be nice - i bet one can be published pretty easily - i can tell you that me and mr. engard will be there 13:39 nengard :) 13:49 gmcharlt @quote random 13:49 munin gmcharlt: Quote #26: "<chris> as an aside C4::Search makes my brain hurt" (added by jdavidb at 05:21 PM, August 22, 2009) 13:56 slef nengard: I think NZ privacy laws might prevent it. I don't remember being asked for permission. 13:56 slef nengard: most places have stronger privacy laws than the US 14:36 hudsonbot Starting build 70 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:38 slef I know any questions or objections are raised on-list, but how do patch submitters get positive feedback on patch application? 14:38 fcapo Hello, I have a problem with the link_bibs_to_authorities.pl script. It never links my biblios to my authorities. 14:38 fcapo If I add authority links with the BiblioAddsAuthorities option and then run link_bibs_to_authorities.pl, it even deletes the link that were added automatically. 14:39 munin New commit(s) kohagit: (MT #3697) Fixed GetAuthorityRecords <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5cb133d9a3c3df00e897a3e32f9c8566be4fa249> / [MT3696] Fixed ILSDI GetAvailability call <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2fb3f22f62c1b45065874e0a86d403f47c05408a> / (MT #3698) Fixed ILSDI GetRecords <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ccee831244aa53f91bb13af48951e75 14:39 slef fcapo: ow. Have you checked bugs and email lists for similar symptoms? 14:40 fcapo found some old mailing list entries with no solution, I'll keep searching. 14:40 wizzyrea slef: lately we've been doing the "sign off" thing 14:40 wizzyrea that may not be what you meant 14:44 slef wizzyrea: don't sign-offs go to the list too? 14:44 hudsonbot Project Koha build (70): SUCCESS in 7 min 50 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/70/ 14:44 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: (MT #3698) Fixed ILSDI GetRecords 14:44 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: [MT3696] Fixed ILSDI GetAvailability call 14:44 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: (MT #3697) Fixed GetAuthorityRecords 14:44 slef Galen is using Mantis too? 14:44 gmcharlt slef: nope, those are cherry-picks from BibLibre 14:45 slef fcapo: if it's not in bugs, it sounds worth reporting. 14:45 slef gmcharlt: so why does hudsonbot think you wrote them? 14:46 gmcharlt slef: it seems to be picking up patch committer, not patch author 14:51 fcapo Looking into the LinkBibHeadingsToAuthorities subroutine, it seems $heading->authorities() always returns 0 results for me. 14:54 slef gmcharlt: can you make the change described in http://issues.hudson-ci.org/browse/HUDSON-5035 please? 14:56 slef option git.authorOrCommitter it seems 15:08 Barrc fcapo: Did you do a Marc load of your data or add it manually? 15:09 fcapo Barrc: I imported my data with bulkmarcimport.pl 15:10 Barrc thought so....had the same problem myself. You won't be able to retrospectivly relink the auths. How many bibs have you got? 15:11 fcapo only imported 100 for testing purposes, will have a lot more in production 15:13 Barrc You can auto create the Authorities by just going into a bib and simply clicking save. This is provided you have the syspre turned on to allow it, and you have Authorities working in the first case - where did you export the marc records from 15:13 Barrc can you export an Authority file too? 15:15 fcapo I tried using the BiblioAddsAuthorities option and saving. It creates some authorities, but I get duplicates by doing that with books with the same authorities 15:16 nengard chris_n around? 15:18 Barrc Can you search Authorities correctly? 15:18 Barrc Also, what version are you running? 15:18 fcapo Authority searching works correctly in the staff interface. 15:19 fcapo version: 3.01.00.999 15:20 Barrc I spent a good while trying to get link_bibs_to_authorities to run. Also tried to write my own script to run create new authorities but it turned out way too difficult. I have one small site with 10,000 bibs marc-loaded and we can't link to Auths, nightmare. 15:21 Barrc If you can export an Autority file from your current system you'd be better off 15:21 bigbrovar Hi guys, I am moving our spreadsheet based library to marc21. I am not a librarian and just starting to learn about this whole marc21 thingie. I am currently stock at 852 code which is for location. from what I read its suppose to be for the holding organisation can I put that as my school? how is it differentiated from 952$a (sorry if my question sound too noobish :( ) 15:22 fcapo Well, I have the old authorities imported into my koha using bulkmarcimport.pl -a, but they don't get linked to my bibs 15:22 jcamins fcapo: sorry for the belated answer... I thought that I was doing something wrong, but I had the same problem with link_bibs... 15:23 jcamins I never solved it. 15:23 Barrc bibbrovar: Have you looked here: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd84188x.html 15:24 Barrc Interesting, I never had any problem linking when I load Authorities. What was the source ILS? 15:24 jcamins Barrc: creating authorities from scratch. 15:24 Barrc Sorry jcamnis my post was directed at fcapo 15:25 Barrc I should have said! 15:25 jcamins Okay. 15:25 fcapo jcamins: ok, at least I know I'm not the only one having this problem :P 15:27 fcapo It's a custom ILS I guess, I only received the MARC files to migrate to koha 15:28 Barrc OK, I was just curious to see if I have come across a similar one. 15:30 fcapo Barrc: How did you import you authorities so they got linked correctly? 15:37 Barrc fcapo: I am just testing something out at my end regaring this. I usually use bulkauthimport.pl for the auth file 15:46 slef bigbrovar: 852 is described in the LOC MARC stuff. 952 is Koha's internal codes, more or less. 15:56 mag_away yay! http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=15119 15:58 Oak \o 16:01 chris_n nengard: here 16:01 nengard hi chris_n 16:01 nengard wondering about spine labels and call number splitting 16:02 nengard is there a setting to make it so that it doesn't split on the letter? I have a library that wasnt J300 to stay J300 on the spine label - but it's coming out as J on one line and 300 on the next 16:03 chris_n there's a splitting algorithm for ddcn and lccn and "other" 16:03 chris_n if it is a ddcn or lccn and is not splitting correctly there is a bug for it 16:03 * chris_n looks 16:04 chris_n if it is an "other" but should have its own splitting algorithm, we need a bug for it 16:04 chris_n bug 2500 16:04 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2500 enhancement, P3, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, Standing enhancement request for adding/updating call number splitting algorithms in C4/Labels.pm 16:04 chris_n if it is a local preference of how a number should be split, I'm not sure what to say 16:05 * chris_n had thought of a syspref allowing custom splitting algorithms 16:05 chris_n but they are regexps which are not for the faint of heart 16:11 nengard chris_n that's what I thought - that this was not something that needed to be fixed 16:11 nengard that it was the right way to split and they had a preference of their own 16:19 * chris_n would like feedback on such a syspref mentioned above, however 16:21 gmcharlt chris_n: maybe a plugin system tied to classifiction source? 16:21 chris_n nice announcement by software.coop and bywater 16:21 chris_n gmcharlt: good idea 16:21 chris_n I suppose some libraries might have multiple classification systems in use? 16:22 gmcharlt yes 16:22 gmcharlt generally a combination of Dewey or LC and SuDoc (in the States) 16:22 gmcharlt but some libraries are still in the middle of a Dewey to LC reclass 16:23 chris_n I hadn't thought about that... such a system would make transitions much easier as well 16:26 ronald goog morning.... ican enter default date in the worksheets marc? 16:28 ronald fields 001, 003, 005, 008? 16:30 ronald any can help me? 16:31 ronald i can enter default dates in the worksheets marc, fields 001, 003, 005,008? 16:31 nengard chris_n - it's all about collaboration and working together :) 16:32 nengard as for the preference ... i'd like to see a complete templating engine - like the one in WP - for Koha - for all screens, letters, messages, and lables 16:32 nengard labels 16:32 Oak WP? 16:32 ronald i can enter default dates in the worksheets marc, fields 001, 003, 005,008? 16:33 Oak ronald, can you? 16:33 nengard WordPress 16:33 Oak aah 16:33 * chris_n adds the beginning of an RFC and opens a enh req 16:34 fcapo What does the "ext" mean in a ccl search query? ex: 'Heading,ext=Search Terms' . Can't seem to find any references about ccl search queries... 16:34 chris_n extent, maybe? 16:34 ronald how i can enter default dates in the worksheets marc, field 001. 003. 005, 008? 16:37 wizzyrea oo, that is a nice announcement from bywater nand software.coop 16:37 wizzyrea software.coop++ bywater++ 16:38 ronald how i can enter default dates in the worksheets marc, field 001. 003. 005, 008? 16:59 Oak I am installing Koha 3.00.06.010 on Slackware 13.1. What does this step mean sudo ln -s /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha when on Slackware there is not /etcapache2 folder. There is an /etc/httpd folder but no 'sites-available ' sub-folder in it. 17:01 jcamins Oak: I think that's Debian specific. 17:01 jcamins Is there a conf.d folder? 17:01 Oak in /etc/httpd ? nope. 17:01 jcamins Hm. 17:02 Oak there is /etc/httpd/extra 17:02 Oak with lots of .conf files in it 17:02 Oak 11 .conf files actually 17:02 jcamins http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout#Slackware_12.0.2B-_.28Apache_httpd_2.2.29: 17:03 Oak ooh thanks 17:04 jcamins Lots of people compiling Apache from scratch on Slackware. 17:16 chris slef is right, nz privacy laws prevent us publishing a list since we didnt ask permission 17:17 chris in fact we said 17:17 chris " By completing this form and registering for KohaCon10, you consent to the organisors of KohaCon10 contacting you via email to keep you up to date with any change in details about the conference and to confirm your attendance. We will never, ever, pass on your details to anyone else. Your information will be used to manage your registration at this conference only. " 17:18 chris under nz privacy law, information can only be used for the purpose for which it was obtained 17:18 chris without a court order of course :) 17:22 nengard oh well 17:24 cait hi #kopha 17:24 cait koha 17:25 chris hi cait 17:25 cait hi chris :) 17:25 chris nengard and others with android phones, did you see the wellington bus app thingy? 17:25 cait bought new suitcase and backpack - ready for packing now ) 17:25 nengard chris - no i didn't 17:25 chris cait: excellent :) 17:26 cait no trying to reprogram my father's internet radio 17:26 cait hmpf! 17:26 chris ahh coveritlive will have caught it 17:26 chris www.kohacon10.org.nz/live/ 17:28 chris thought it might be useful 17:32 chris_n nengard: do you know if there is a document anywhere describing the role of Documentation Manager? 17:32 * chris_n is moving pages from the old wiki :) 17:35 fcapo Anybody know the difference between the Heading and the Match-heading bib-1 attributes? 17:36 chris_n I think this is pretty well up to date now: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_Teams 17:36 chris_n feel free to move/add as needed 17:37 nengard chris_n -- not that i know of - i pretty much just said - hey we need a manual, let me write that 17:37 nengard and got the role :) 17:38 chris_n nengard: sometime if you have time (HA!) maybe you can write up something for future generations of document managers :) 17:38 nengard chris said the job was mine til i dropped dead .... 17:39 nengard so i think i have a while before i have to write that :) hehe 17:39 nengard but yeah, makes sense 17:40 chris_n then may nengard live forever ;-) 17:42 chris well yeah, i dont see too many people volunteering :) 17:42 chris like mason said 17:43 cait nengard++ for being doc manager :) 17:44 cait one day I will perhaps have time (HA!) to translate the manual... 17:44 chris_n cait++ # for the hope of a german manual 17:44 cait oh, this is not earned yet 17:45 chris_n consider it encouragement and anticipation :) 17:45 cait but my coworker wrote some training materials for serials and acq that we want to put on our wiki 17:47 chris ok i hear little feet running round, time to get up 17:47 chris bbl 17:48 chris_n look out! 17:51 Oak damn it, looks like koha was made for Debian only 17:51 fcapo I think I solved my problem with link_bibs_to_authorities.pl ... had to modify C4/Heading.pm , dunno if it's the best solution, but my bibs are linked to my authorities now 17:52 fcapo Changed the 'Match-heading' to 'Heading' in the query, and commented all the 'ifs' in 17:53 fcapo _query_limiters 17:53 jcamins Oak: it will work under other OSes, it's just difficult. 17:53 chris_n Oak: Koha has been installed on debian, fedora, opensuse, ubuntu, and others no doubt 17:53 gmcharlt fcapo: what MARC flavor are you using? 17:53 chris_n Oak: see http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree 17:53 chris_n Oak: I have it running on XP as well fwiw 17:54 fcapo gmcharlt: MARC21 17:55 fcapo also, there were some FIXME comments in the _query_limiters lines I commented: # FIXME -- is this properly in C4::Heading::MARC21? 17:55 Oak I'm just tired, will try again tomorrow ... 17:56 Oak thanks jcamins, chris_n 17:56 jcamins Oak: where does the installation get bogged down? 17:56 * chris_n remembers the frustration of his first Koah install 17:56 chris_n Koha, even 17:56 * jcamins too. 17:56 Oak I keep getting Forbidden on 127 17:56 Oak 127.0.0.1:8080 17:56 Oak I must be not configuring Virtual Hosts properly 17:56 chris_n sounds like permissions problems 17:57 jcamins My guess is you need to change the permissions. 17:57 jcamins chgrp -R www * 17:57 jcamins (or whatever the proper group is) 17:57 Oak hmm 17:57 Oak ok 18:01 gmcharlt fcapo: did you choose DOM or GRS-1 mode for indexing the authorities when you installed? 18:02 fcapo That I don't know, it wasn't me who installed it 18:04 gmcharlt by the way, to answer your other question - Match-heading is a specially constructed index type for looking up headings and matching on subdivisions correctly 18:05 fcapo good to know 18:08 fcapo Still, Match-heading always returns 0 results for me 18:10 gmcharlt fcapo: what does the <config> element in <server id="authorityserver" ...> in your koha-conf.xml say? 18:12 cait jcamins: I see that analytical records came up on the mailing list again - do you think my solution is sufficient for these things? 18:12 fcapo <config>/home/koha/.../etc/zebradb/zebra-authorities.cfg</config> 18:13 gmcharlt k, that means that GRS-1 was chosen during install when DOM should have been 18:14 gmcharlt changing the reference from zebra-authorities.cfg to zebra-authorities-dom.cfg 18:14 Oak good night 18:14 gmcharlt and retrieval-info-auth-grs1.xml to retrieval-info-auth-dom.xml 18:14 gmcharlt restarting Zebra 18:14 fcapo reverting my changes and trying with DOM 18:15 gmcharlt and running rebuild_zebra.pl -a -r shoudl fix it 18:16 jcamins cait: yes, I think so. 18:17 cait jcamins: ok - perhaps time to comment on the wiki. 18:17 cait I wanted to upload my test records too, did yo have time to look at them? I think 2 authorities crept in. 18:18 jcamins cait: I haven't had a lot of time yet. 18:18 reva hi all, I am having a record with a series statement in 490 ($a, $v) and series added 830($a, $v). The 490 is showing fine in staff Normal view. But neither the 490 nor the 830 or showing int the OPAC Normal view. Any ideas why? 18:18 jcamins I do plan to spend more time on it, though. 18:18 cait jcamins: no problem, you already took a lot of time looking at it 18:19 cait jcamins++ 18:19 reva that was supposed to be "neither the 490 nor the 830 are" 18:19 jcamins It might need a little more tweaking with the way it handles LDR/07=c and LDR/07=d, but the concepts will cover everything, I think. 18:21 jcamins (because records with LDR/07=c might need to be treated specially, almost like a set) 18:22 fcapo gmcharlt: hum... now I can't find any authorities 18:23 gmcharlt anything in the zebrasrv logs? 18:23 fcapo gmcharlt: where are they normally? 18:24 gmcharlt ps -ef | grep zebrasrv will likely tell you where they are you on your system 18:24 cait jcamins: what is 07 c? 18:24 cait oh, will look it up 18:28 fcapo gmcharlt: There doesn't seem to be any recent error 18:28 gmcharlt and no error messages when you ran rebuild_zebra? 18:28 fcapo nope 18:29 jcamins cait: collection. 18:29 jcamins cait: and LDR/07=d is subunit. 18:30 cait jcamins: thank you! I am not sure whe have these in our data, but I can ask my coworker when I am back 18:30 cait jcamins: we have a project with manuscripts and koha planned too 18:31 cait jcamins: perhaps it will be used in this context? 18:31 jcamins Yup. 18:32 jcamins At least, that's the context when it would be used, if it were. 18:32 jcamins I think. 18:32 jcamins I'm a bibliographer, not an archivist. ;) 18:33 reva Anyone has an answer for why neither my series statement (490) nor my series added entry (83) are showing on OPAC Normal view? 18:34 cait jcamins: you are great - not important if you are a bibliographer or archivist ;) 18:34 jcamins :) 18:35 jcamins I do my best. 18:39 fcapo gmcharlt: ok, zebrasrv wasn't started, now search works, testing link_bibs_to_authorities.pl 18:39 * jcamins waits with bated breath to hear what fcapo has to say. 18:41 fcapo 83 bibs modified... let's see... 18:42 fcapo every authority still has 0 biblios :/ looks like it unlinked them 18:44 jcamins fcapo: that's disappointing. Could it be that you need to wait another few minutes for the Zebra indexer to catch up? 18:48 fcapo well, the search does return some results now, maybe it worked... 18:49 chris_n fcapo: you could re-run rebuild_zebra.pl with the -r option to drop and rebuild the indexes completely 18:50 fcapo chris_n: I'll try that. link_bibs_to_authorities.pl does link some authorities, just a small amount. 18:51 * chris_n imagines you should completely rebuild the indexes after running that script 18:52 fcapo wait... it works! 18:52 chris Back 18:53 jcamins \o/ 18:53 chris_n w00t! 18:54 jcamins Wow. Is that message correct, or is the version a typo? 18:54 fcapo So, the solution really was to use DOM instead of GSR-1. Thank you gmcharlt and everyone that helped :D 18:55 * jcamins will have to ask ByWater what we're using, now that it turns out works when you have DOM enabled. 18:56 jcamins *turns out that link_bibs_to_authorities.pl works 18:57 fcapo well, it now works for me without any modification 18:58 chris Oh poor ahmed 18:58 chris He's in for a treat 18:59 chris He'll need to do 3 upgrades 18:59 chris_n can you spell "antique"? 19:01 jcamins o-n-e-p-o-i-n-t-a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g? 19:03 chris I have a soft spot for 1.2.3 19:03 chris And anyone who has been using koha since then, is cool with me 19:03 jcamins I'm sure it was a great version, but upgrading from that sounds painful. 19:03 chris Yep 19:04 sekjal_a we just need a version-inversion script: 1.2.3 to 3.2.1 19:04 chris Heh 19:04 chris The hard bit is 2.2 to 3.0 actually 19:05 chris 1.2 to 2.0 and then to 2.2 is not so bad 19:05 chris But 2.2 to 3.0 had some major changes in db 19:06 chris Ill try to write an email when I get to work, and then wiki it 19:06 chris_n maybe we can have $my_koha->upgrade 19:07 chris jcamins: 1.2.3 was the last one with a working simple catalogue interface 19:08 jcamins I guess that'll be quite an adjustment, switching to the MARC21 interface. 19:08 jcamins I don't think my simple cataloging interface is going to be done in the next few weeks. 19:08 jcamins Is there any way to force subfield 9s to be editable? 19:09 * chris_n seems to recall it has to do with authorities 19:09 jcamins Yep. 19:09 jcamins It provides the link. 19:09 chris_n I think you have to change the mapping... or some such 19:09 jcamins I'm looking at our duplicate authority records. 19:09 chris_n its been awhile 19:10 * chris_n is only a cataloger in a hackish sort of sense 19:12 chris :) 19:12 jcamins Wait... 19:12 jcamins Achaemenid dynasty, 559-330 B.C. is not a personal name. 19:13 jcamins That's not even a family name. 19:13 chris_n to say the least 19:13 jcamins jQuery? 19:14 jcamins Never mind. 19:14 chris_n are you just wanting to change it in one record? 19:14 chris_n you could use firebug to unlock the field 19:15 jcamins No, just trying to figure out the most efficient way to de-dup authority records. 19:15 jcamins I've decided that's not the most efficient way, though. 19:17 chris Hmm I there's an open bug for that I think? 19:17 richard hi 19:18 jcamins Oh, here's fcapo's problem. Bug 3072. 19:18 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3072 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, 'Heading-Main' authority-index breaks authority searching in STABLE 19:19 jcamins And bug 5271 is for an in-Koha authority merge. 19:19 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5271 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Should be able to merge authority records from w/in Koha 19:20 jcamins Oh, I should check out bug 4309, see if it still works. 19:20 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4309 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Authorities : Multiple values search leads to Error 500 19:20 jcamins And figure out how to fix bug 3343. 19:20 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3343 minor, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, duplicate subfields in authority 19:21 * jcamins looks at his to-do list and weeps 19:22 chris_n wow, if bug 3072 is verifiable in HEAD/3.2, it should be updated to reflect that and fixed in the RC imho 19:23 chris My stop bbiab 19:23 reva jcamins, The personal names would be Darius and Xerxes, correct? Now, can someone tell me how I would turn the 830 field to show in OPAC Normal view?:) 19:24 jcamins chris_n: apparently it only affects Zebra with GRS-1. 19:24 jcamins Errr, that was a question. 19:25 chris_n it should still be updated to reflect the current HEAD and probably that information added as well 19:25 jcamins I don't have any spare servers I can use GRS on, so I will have to recuse myself from being the tester. 19:25 jcamins It might be a different problem that fcapo ran into, although it looks pretty similar. 19:27 fcapo my problem was about a Match-heading I changed into Heading, not Heading-main 19:27 jcamins Oh, my mistake. 19:27 jcamins Sorry, false alarm. 19:28 jcamins Both "main" and "match" start with "ma-." 19:28 jcamins ;) 19:28 fcapo :D 19:30 chris_n jcamins must have his "fuzzy" search filter on ;-) 19:31 jcamins chris_n: of course. I'm looking through our authorities for duplicates, after all. ;) 19:31 chris_n lol 19:33 jcamins I have the feeling I did this already. 19:33 chris back 19:33 jcamins There are way fewer duplicates than anticipated. 19:42 reva Bug: in 830 series added entry, authority is storing the $v subfield; (and it stores it with an auto-generated label " v".) This should not be as one would want only the Series added title (an uniform title for the series series), not the part label and number when creating new records for other parts in the series. 19:43 chris_n reva: please file a bug @ bugs.koha-community.org 19:44 reva sure; now can you chris_n tell me how I can make 830 display in my OPAC Normal view? 19:44 chris_n reva: sorry 19:45 chris_n not off the top of my head 19:45 reva ok; if you can find out sometime I will check back. Thanks. 19:46 chris_n reva: you can check the manual http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 19:46 chris_n that will be the quicker than waiting on me :-) 19:48 reva I will, chris_n.:) 19:51 jcamins Meeting time. 20:32 chris oh wow! 20:32 chris new katipo website 20:32 richard a bit prettier 20:32 chris i likes it 20:32 chris http://katipo.co.nz/ 20:44 darling nice 21:47 jim__ Hello all 21:48 chris hi jim__ 21:48 jim__ I'm working on installing, using the instructions at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.0_on_Debian_Lenny 21:49 chris for production use or evaluation? 21:49 jim__ I'm at step 2.3 and when I try to issue the misc/sax_parser_print.pl command I get this: 21:49 jim__ Can't locate object method "new" via package "XML::libXML::SAX::Parser" at /usr/share/perl5/XML/SAX/ParserFactory.pm line 43. 21:49 jim__ Any ideas? 21:50 jim__ everything has gone swimmingly thus far 21:50 chris hmm sounds like that module isnt installed correctly 21:50 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze <-- there are debian packages for squeeze 21:51 jim__ so the deb squeeze package will work on deb lenny? 21:51 jim__ and, I'm using koha 3.00.06 21:52 chris right, for production? or is it going to go live in a little while 21:52 jim__ it's a tester right now 21:53 chris because 3.2 has a release candidate out, and final release is pretty close 21:53 robin the squeeze packages won't work on lenny without some extra work 21:53 chris so it might be worth going straight to 3.2 21:53 jim__ I may do that 21:53 chris even if you dont use the packages 21:53 chris the INSTALL.debian file 21:53 robin also, squeeze has a release candidate, and final release is pretty soon :) 21:53 chris in the git repo, has good instructions 21:54 jim__ guess I'll wait on this a bit. 21:54 chris http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian 21:54 chris if you use the packages you can just apt-get upgrade when the final release hits ;) 21:55 robin for a testing setup, I'd strongly encourage doing squeeze+packages, as they'll both be stable and supported for a long while pretty soon. 21:55 jim__ thanks chris & robin 21:56 chris no problem 22:06 chris_n1 http://tinyurl.com/3aoxo84 <<<< very cool story 22:06 chris it sure is 22:09 chris hi LBA 22:09 LBA Hi Chris, and all! 22:13 chris whats new? 22:18 LBA just over here working on my little part in subverting the dominant paradigm 22:19 chris :)