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21:54 wizzy_fre later peps
21:31 wizzyrea sekjal's quits always make me giggle.
20:36 wizzyrea true
20:35 jcamins Have a good weekend, #koha
20:35 jcamins Ah, what a glorious sound.
20:33 SJeffery wizzy, at least the east coast isn't like those aussies and kiwis who think it is Saturday already
20:31 wizzyrea (oh,mute the video)
20:31 jcamins Heh.
20:31 wizzyrea space.
20:31 wizzyrea turn on groove salad on itunes radio
20:30 wizzyrea click any one
20:30 wizzyrea the youtube vortex: look up hot air balloons
20:30 jcamins And boy oh boy do I want those five minutes to pass.
20:30 jcamins In five minutes!
20:30 jcamins Yes it is.
20:29 wizzyrea it's the weekend!
20:29 wizzyrea :)
20:29 wizzyrea oh right the east coast is dropping off
20:28 wizzyrea better ideas?
20:28 wizzyrea I think my next project will be to add a checkbox for "clear" to those.
20:27 jcamins wizzyrea: no, not intuitive at all.
20:27 wizzyrea ok, I'm going to take that as truth, because that's what I have experienced. It's not terribly intuitive though.
20:26 jcamins There's a script for deleting unused authorities.
20:26 jcamins I need to delete thousands.
20:25 jcamins reva: yes, but that's one at a time.
20:25 wizzyrea so am I to understand that in 3.2 batch mod, to clear a user enterable field you need to insert a space in it? Is that right?
20:24 reva jcamins, you can delete unused authorities by going into authorities module. The ones with 0 (zero) biblios have a delete option on the last column. (search with a blank string to bring up all the authorities so you can clean up). I am stillherre.
20:09 briceSanc oh ok
20:09 owen briceSanc: Bug 5051 has a pending patch for it already
20:09 briceSanc have a good weekend
20:09 briceSanc i will work on those bugs
20:09 briceSanc ok
20:08 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5051 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab
20:08 owen Bug Bug 5051 prevents the renewal due date field from appearing unless there are checkouts from today.
20:08 owen Under normal conditions there are 1) the renwal checkboxes, and 2) the renewal due date form field
20:07 owen No, no renewal form appears
20:07 briceSanc yes
20:07 owen What renew checkbox? On the circulation page?
20:07 briceSanc not checkout = checkbox
20:06 briceSanc I rephrase : i think, in normal time, the renewal form appear when we check the renew checkout ?
20:02 owen briceSanc: I guess I don't understand your question
20:01 briceSanc owen, Ok, I think the "Renewal due date" should appear when we click on "renew" !?
19:58 * chris yells out the window "you kids get off my lawn"
19:48 chris jeeze
19:48 chris ok who the hell weedeats at 8.55am on a saturday morning
19:47 chris but the trick i find is not to give in to the desire for an earlynight, or a nap, even if you body is trying to make you, cos then you wake up at 3am :)
19:47 jcamins I'm going to pretend I didn't notice.
19:47 jcamins And you know what?
19:47 jcamins Okay, this is weird.
19:46 chris sekjal: yeah it does mess with you a bit
19:45 jcamins Does link_bibs_to_authorities.pl unlink authorities that it thinks do not match?
19:45 sekjal I'm wondering how the whole waking/sleeping thing is going to work... I'll try to sync up on the plane, but this is the furthest I've flown
19:45 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5051 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab
19:45 owen briceSanc: Bug 5051 perhaps?
19:45 chris and the cafe on the corner does good coffee
19:44 chris its pretty much as close as you can get
19:44 chris you can wake up at 7.59am and be at the conf by 8am :)
19:44 briceSanc owen, Is it normal to have difficulties to reveal the renewal form inside the Renew checkbox ?
19:44 chris sweet
19:44 sekjal chris: nomad
19:43 chris sekjal: nomad? or base?
19:43 briceSanc ok
19:41 owen briceSanc: Can you please file a bug report for it?
19:41 owen briceSanc: I confirm you observation
19:38 sekjal hotel (rather, hostel) booked
19:36 briceSanc i'm speaking about the checkboxs in the 'Checkout(s)' html table
19:33 briceSanc do you have the same problem in "Home ï¿½ Circulation ï¿½ Checkouts ï¿½ briceSanc" . I'm unable to check "Renew" then "Check in" in the same time (i think its normal) but i'm able to check "Check in" then "Renew"
19:32 jcamins Is there some way to delete all unused authorities?
19:30 briceSanc hello
19:30 reva Bye jcamins for the weekend. I will get back to installation on Monday and report on how it is going and ask questions.:)
19:24 reva yeah:) jcamins, you are brilliant. I the author could not find it:(
19:22 jcamins That one?
19:22 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5259 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, 245 $c not displaying except in Card?ISBD View (OPAC) and ISBD View (Stafff side)
19:22 jcamins Bug 5259
19:22 reva Thanks, jcamins. But I still do not see my first one I did a few days ago. I did a search using terms I had used in the report. Woud it be ok to file that again?
19:20 jcamins reva: your bug report went through properly. :)
19:19 jcamins 217 results.
19:19 jwagner What more do you want?
19:19 jcamins Yeah, but that author brings up...
19:19 cait and an author
19:18 jcamins Ooh, but it does have an LCCN.
19:18 jcamins http://donum.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=175690 <-- possibly a new low for our catalog
19:17 jcamins How am I supposed to find this book?
19:17 jcamins This record has no information at all.
19:16 jcamins Are they kidding me?!?!?!?
19:16 cait wow
19:16 jcamins AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19:15 jcamins That's the version the change will be going into.
19:15 reva ok, I will; thanks.
19:15 jcamins Choose 3.4.
19:14 reva jcamins: you tested the 007 bug I just talked about in 3.2, correct? This is so I can pick that as the version when I am reporting.
19:13 chris they got a good deal, so might be worth checking it out
19:13 chris ahh yes i recall now, its the librarians from Hauraki
19:13 chris i cant recall who it is, but someone is staying at the trinity hotel, (which is right next to my work)
19:13 cait :)
19:11 sekjal thanks, chris
19:11 chris :)
19:11 chris sekjal: ... book your hotel!
18:54 reva and the 245c becoming useless because it is not seen except in the ISBD view on either side. Ok, I will try the 007 in the bug report and check to see if I actually "reported" it.
18:53 jcamins Bugzilla is very straightforward to use.
18:53 jcamins As long as you save the bug, I'm sure it's getting in there.
18:53 jcamins Both should show up.
18:52 reva jcamins: the other bug I reported was the one about no title in the headers (under normal view either in OPAC or in Staff side) when you look at a record. Maybe it is considered an enhancement?
18:50 jcamins If you save the bug you should be able to find it again when you search for it.
18:49 reva What I will, but shouldn't I see it in the new bugs reported?
18:48 reva ok, thanks. I will report it. But the other day, I reported one, I do not see it in the new bug list. So I am not sure I understand the second scree that comes up after I report the bug.
18:47 jcamins reva: report a bug at http://bugs.koha-community.org/
18:47 reva I was doing a bib record for a CD-ROM. So I picked electronic (instead of the default Text) and then it gives me further dropdowns. So I picked Optical media (cannot remember the exact label) and picked 4 and 3/4 as the size.
18:46 jcamins You should report it.
18:46 jcamins Yeah, I can confirm that bug.
18:46 jcamins I see, electronic resources.
18:45 reva No, no, I am still internalizing the instruction. For example, where it says <password>, do I put in the password of my choice in double-quotes in the script? Taking a big break, that is all:).
18:44 jcamins reva: which 007 type?
18:43 jcamins reva: you got Koha all working already? Wow, that was fast!
18:42 reva If you do not notice the reversion, you will be saving it as a Tape Cartridge.
18:41 reva ok another bug I noticed: in the 007 field builder, say I have picked some choices from the dropdown list (such as optical disc, multicolor, etc.), but I hit ok; and then I want to do some changes and I open the builder again, the choice for Specific Material Designation reverts back to Tape cartridge.
18:39 nengard hehe - got it
18:39 owen Usually it takes some magic to get enhancements done
18:38 nengard what's the pixie dust for?
18:38 owen Don't forget to sprinkle the bug with pixie dust nengard
18:38 jcamins nengard++ # for posting enhancement requests so I don't have to
18:38 jcamins nengard: it would be really helpful, especially for hosted installations!
18:37 nengard i'm about to put a enhancement request in for that - the merge authorities
18:37 reva how do you type in the umlaut. I mean the key map sequence.
18:37 nengard jcamins - i just wrote that in notes from my training
18:36 jcamins There should be a way to merge authority records in the staff client.
18:32 jcamins I think maybe I'll make fudge tonight.
18:32 jcamins Ah.
18:32 jwagner cookie and warm milk are the next stage, when sobbing goes from quiet to loud :-)
18:32 jcamins Thanks!
18:32 jcamins Oh, blankie.
18:31 jcamins Cookie?
18:31 * jwagner offers jcamins a blankie
18:31 * jcamins sobs quietly to himself.
18:31 jcamins Wow. Our authorities sure are a mess.
18:21 cait y
18:21 cait no. not reall
18:21 chris wow, not long
18:19 cait before nz, and only four before my next presentation
18:19 cait but I realized today, that I have only 3 work days left
18:19 cait don't ask
18:19 chris heya cait, hows the packing? :)
18:15 cait morning chris
18:15 nengard NLM is very close to LOC so I have set it up and haven't had any complaints from those using it
18:15 jwagner Unrelated (mostly) question -- I got asked today how Koha would handle NLM or SUDOC call number sorts. Anyone have any idea?
18:14 jwagner OK, I'll whisper that back down the rumor chain. Thanks.
18:14 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2500 enhancement, P3, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, Standing enhancement request for adding/updating call number splitting algorithms in C4/Labels.pm
18:14 chris_n which always need tuning, so feel free to update bug 2500 with any numbers that will not split correctly
18:13 chris_n but it has since been removed and replaced with splitting regexps
18:13 jwagner Didn't think so -- I'd never heard of it, anyway.
18:13 chris_n I did have some code very early on that did that
18:12 chris_n not that I know of
18:11 jwagner I'm being told about 3rd or 4th hand that entering slashes in the call number will make the spine label printing break at those points. Is that true for any value of Koha, especially for your label creator?
18:11 chris_n get to work over there
18:11 * chris_n glares at chris_n1
18:11 Dulm L8er
18:11 chris_n heh... "we're" here... :-)
18:10 jwagner chris_n or chris_n1 (whoever you are today), online?
18:10 chris morning
17:55 Dulm Ah the anti-Koha
17:50 jcamins Dulm: the Koha logo could fire enlightement at previously unenlightened library systems. :)
17:49 cait :)
17:49 owen But they're not connected
17:49 rhcl kohacon I mean
17:49 owen the only connection I see is that the holds queue is a process that runs on a schedule just like indexing does
17:49 rhcl cait: hummm, I guess that might have priority
17:49 owen wizzyrea: Why the question about indexing and the holds queue?
17:46 wizzyrea it wouldn't
17:46 Dulm A Koha logo could be the ship, and the invaders would be....hmmmm...what would a Koha fire at?
17:45 Dulm Or Koha-Vaders
17:45 Dulm In could be done
17:45 cait rhcl: is being at kohaconf a good excuse? :)
17:43 wizzyrea owen++ : for proposing recent comments
17:41 wizzyrea and if it does, what exactly?
17:41 wizzyrea can someone tell me if indexing has anything to do with the holds queue report?
17:41 rhcl cait: no, but if I lived in Germany I would
17:36 jcamins Try to check out a certain number of non-circulating books, return a certain number of circulating books, create and delete a new item record, and you're in the midst of Zork?
17:35 Dulm Yeaaaah...
17:35 owen It would be a great Easter egg
17:33 Dulm Perhaps we can build Zork I into Koha - To get any work done people must solve text based adventure puzzles ;)
17:32 Dulm Yes!
17:32 jcamins cait: http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Infocom/Articles/NZT/zorkhist.html
17:31 cait zork?
17:27 owen Here you go Dulm: http://zorkonline.net/zengine-0.4.3/
17:27 cait rhcl: are you going to nÃ¼rnberg?
17:24 Dulm << From Zork I Anyone? :) >>
17:22 jcamins rhcl: okay, that's not nearly strong enough to turn you into one of my predecessors.
17:22 rhcl as long as it's not Tennessee distilled corn we're ok
17:22 Dulm "open mailbox"
17:22 rhcl it's only gonna be wine, a tall glass perhaps, but just wine
17:21 jcamins rhcl: don't do it! You're going to turn into my predecessors!
17:21 Dulm West of House: You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door. There is a small mailbox here.
17:21 * cait outs herself as a windows user
17:20 cait *sighs*
17:20 jcamins cait: generally umlauts are fine. However, I'm running irssi on a Debian server and SSHed in using Cygwin.
17:20 rhcl I need a drink. brb
17:20 cait yes
17:20 rhcl Microsoft Windows?
17:20 rhcl windows?
17:20 cait jcamins: I am using umlauts in Windows all teh time - they are not that bad
17:20 Dulm "You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike."
17:20 * jcamins stares in shock - the umlaut showed up under Windows!
17:19 cait I am not really a linux user (yet)
17:19 cait rhcl: ah no
17:19 rhcl cait, are you going to the opensuse conference in NÃ¼rnberg?
17:19 munin jcamins: Error: "I'm" is not a valid command.
17:19 jcamins munin: I'm not giving you a cookie.
17:18 jcamins Aww.
17:17 * cait takes the gun from jcamins
17:17 cait hm jcamins?
17:17 munin jcamins: *click*
17:17 jcamins @roulette
17:17 munin jcamins: *click*
17:17 jcamins @roulette
17:17 munin jcamins: *click*
17:17 jcamins @roulette
17:17 munin jcamins: *click*
17:17 cait puh
17:17 jcamins @roulette
17:17 munin cait: *click*
17:17 cait @roulette
17:17 jcamins Heh.
17:17 * druthb does a happy dance
17:16 * munin reloads and spins the chambers.
17:16 druthb @roulette
17:15 ivanc \server
17:00 cait hi ivanc
17:00 ivanc hi cait
16:55 druthb welcome back, cait. :)
16:49 brendan_l hey cait
16:49 cait hi again #koha
16:49 brendan_l heya druthb :)
16:07 reva Ok, got it. Thanks again.
16:06 wizzyrea bye kf... bother.
16:06 jcamins The log is at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2010-10-01
16:06 jcamins No, but you can just log in from another computer.
16:06 kf ok, time to leave - have a nice weekend all!
16:05 reva Thanks jcamins: will get back later. Is ther a way to transfer my this chat session to another machine in the mibbit?
16:05 * druthb waves to brendan_l
16:02 jcamins Yup.
16:01 reva Ok, that is good. I see it was updated 2010 by chris.
16:01 jcamins The two documents are the same, except the one I linked to is newer and has some slightly clearer instructions.
16:00 jcamins Better to just use the one I linked to.
16:00 reva jcamins: where do I find the Install Debian-Lenny page?
16:00 jcamins Right, so you can follow the online version and it'll work properly.
15:59 reva Now I am looking at the page you just gave me (http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=INSTALL.debian). I can extract the tar.gz file using WinRar in my XP and take the folder full of Koha stuff with me and just copy it to a folder inside the partition for debian.
15:58 jcamins wizzyrea++ # for pointing out what was going on
15:57 jcamins The documentation you need on the Koha beta is called INSTALL.debian-lenny :)
15:57 Dulm See!
15:57 jcamins Mystery solved.
15:57 jcamins Ah-ha!
15:55 reva and I have burned ther Debian Lenny as an ISO CD. so I am carrying my Koha download on a flash (as it is only 39 mega).
15:54 jcamins That seems right. I wonder why the document you're looking at is different.
15:54 Dulm You'll get it
15:53 jcamins Hm.
15:53 reva ok, jacamins: No, I downloaded the koha-3.02.00-beta.tar.gz separately by going to koha-community download page and saved it.
15:52 wizzyrea (that's what my 2 yr old says when he's helping... but not really helping)
15:52 jcamins :)
15:52 wizzyrea ^.^
15:52 wizzyrea I'm helping!
15:51 jcamins Sorry, I thought "please" would be implied. Please.
15:51 wizzyrea please.
15:51 jcamins In your own words.
15:50 jcamins reva: take me through the steps you went through to download Koha 3.2.
15:49 jcamins Step 1.5 is: sudo install_misc/apt-get-debian-lenny.sh
15:49 jcamins Which is very confusing.
15:48 jcamins http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=INSTALL.debian
15:48 jcamins However, the step you mentioned doesn't seem to be in that document.
15:48 jcamins The link you gave is correct.
15:47 reva jcamins: i have the link only for that one (I am talking about the git.koh-community one). Would you give me the link for the correct documentation?
15:41 jcamins The document you linked to earlier doesn't use dpkg.
15:40 jcamins reva: what documentation are you looking at?
15:37 * druthb wants to see if rhcl will be the crash-test dummy for this new gadget. An extra one or two of him wouldn't be bad, either.
15:35 reva Ok, relief and sigh:) Thanks
15:35 reva ok, jcamins. Thanks.So when I come here : $ sudo dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/debian.packages, it will give me choices for installing or not installing several dependencies. (i.e. Apache, Perl, MySQL all come built in).
15:35 rhcl print me off a few tech assistants please...
15:33 * druthb cobbles a cloning device up, but needs software for it.
15:31 jcamins And then you should have everything installed.
15:30 jcamins Then you run the command in 1.6.
15:29 jcamins Then you will run the script in 1.5.
15:29 jcamins The only thing you should download manually is Koha.
15:29 jcamins reva: no, just follow the instructions, and run the script in step 1.5
15:29 nengard awww shucks thanks druthb
15:29 munin kf: The operation succeeded.
15:29 kf @later tell ivanc mail sent
15:29 reva ok jcamins. Got that about following 1.5 - 3. But I guess I am asking now do I download and Apache, Perl, and MySQL and save them, so that I can instruct Debian to install them? If yes to this last question, which version of Apache, Perl and MySQL? Do I take the latest versions from the respective sites?
15:27 * jcamins agrees with druthb, and thinks it would be a great idea
15:26 * wizzyrea shudders at the thought of more than one wizzyrea. The world is scary enough.
15:26 * druthb wonders if the cloning machine would work on wizzyrea, nengard, and gmcharlt. More of those folks around would be nice.
15:25 * wizzyrea thinks harder about jcamins' internet
15:25 jcamins Please ignore the fact that I'm using two different nicks. My internet connection is being troublesome.
15:24 jcamins_m well, 1.5-3, actually.
15:24 jcamins_m reva: that's step 4. First you need to do steps 1-3.
15:23 wizzyrea ^^ or do what he said, and use the script
15:22 jcamins wizzyrea: the script uses apt.
15:22 wizzyrea ...the apt packages are the most up to date. Just use apt
15:22 wizzyrea BUT if you were to need to install apache and/or mysql
15:22 reva so ok, what is the sites-available in this command substituted with? sudo ln -s /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha Ok, wizzyrea. In which case which version of Apache, Perl and MySQL should I have downloaded
15:21 * wizzyrea doesn't know lots of stuff.
15:21 jcamins At least, that was my experience when we installed from scratch on Debian.
15:21 wizzyrea neat!
15:21 wizzyrea oo, I didn't know it did that now >.>
15:21 wizzyrea sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client
15:21 jcamins To clarify, the script installs *everything* Koha requires, which includes Apache and MySQL.
15:21 wizzyrea sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-clien
15:20 wizzyrea reva: sudo apt-get install apache2
15:20 jcamins The script is something like apt_get_install_packages_on_lenny. But just run whichever script the documentation tells you to.
15:19 kf hm?
15:19 jcamins reva: the instructions tell you to install all the packages that Koha requires. Koha requires Apache and MySQL. ;)
15:18 reva ok, jcamins. It is just that I do not see a command in the instruction where it goes to fetch Apache or MySQL from outside sites? Or does Debian come with all these pre-installed?
15:18 wizzyrea ooh, good point
15:18 jcamins wizzyrea: perhaps kf was thinking German-comprehension thoughts at you. :)
15:16 jcamins reva: and by "pretty sure" I mean "it does."
15:16 wizzyrea apparently when I was working on the site, I knew german? or knew a google that did, anyway
15:16 wizzyrea http://downloads.wordpress.org/plugin/rss-import.zip is the one I"m using.
15:14 jcamins reva: if you follow the instructions in that document, I'm pretty sure it installs Apache and MySQL.
15:14 wizzyrea yep, it's a plugin. Sec and I'll find the one I"m using.
15:14 schuster Is that a wordpress plugin or???
15:14 schuster wizzyrea yes.
15:14 jcamins Braedon: I suppose it's possible. Ah-ha! I'll just go out and buy some Zombie-B-Gone, As Seen On TV!
15:14 wizzyrea you mean here: http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
15:13 Braedon jcamins: perhaps billy mays was trying to get through again?
15:13 wizzyrea oh, right, what did you need to know?
15:13 reva Yes, Lenny is what I downloaded jcamins.
15:13 jcamins wizzyrea: oh, thanks!
15:13 schuster wizzyrea - the latest posts from the email listserv on the support page.
15:12 jcamins reva: the correct version of Debian is Lenny.
15:12 wizzyrea That was me, I was thinking about your internet connection.
15:12 jcamins Weird. Apparently signing on with mibbit inspired my internet connection to start working again.
15:12 reva I am not sure though it is Debian Etch that I downloaded. It is the latest stabl Debian though that I have downloaded.
15:11 Dulm It is, anybody try to map their library with Google Sketch-Up? I'm finding by overlaying onto a blue-print image it is really pretty easy, looks nice too - then for creating maps at different angles one just needs to change the camera. There are just too many good tools these days!
15:11 schuster Sorry on other websites...
15:11 reva hi again, we will be installing Koha 3.2 on our hard drive today. I have downloaded Debian as instructed. (And of ourse the Koha 3.2 tar.gz). But do I download the MySQL, Perl, and Apache from inside debian after stating Koha install? I am trying to follow instructions on this page: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian;h=24
15:09 wizzyrea so schuster left?
15:09 wizzyrea very fun dulm
15:05 Dulm Fun if I can get the time to finish it. :)
15:05 * jwagner is impressed that jcamins can summon the dead....
15:05 Dulm I am still working on a collection call mapping add-on like that NEU library in Turkey - using Javascript graphics tools so only one or a few maps need used per building and the javascript graphics draw the rest - NEU created countless animated GIFs for each location
15:02 Braedon please do. you gave me quite a scare. things could have gotten messy
15:01 jcamins I guess I need to work on my summoning powers a bit more. ;)
15:01 Braedon that was close
15:01 * billymays disappears in a puff of smoke
15:01 Braedon nooo, send him back jcamins!
15:01 Dulm Sounds cool. How does it reformat? :)
15:00 billymays DID YOU SUMMON ME?
15:00 billymays HELLO BILLY MAYS HERE LOOKING FOR JCAMINS!
14:59 * jcamins wonders if the person he's thinking about now will sense his thoughts and make an appearance in #koha
14:58 * Braedon saying hello made LibraryGu disappear - that's close right?
14:57 jcamins Dulm: yeah, owen's patch reformatting lists.
14:57 Dulm Patch? A nice patch?
14:57 jcamins Oh, not writing your name 10 times?
14:56 wizzyrea it was actually you thinking of me that made me appear, jcamins
14:56 jcamins owen++ # wow! I can't wait to try that patch
14:56 wizzyrea hey dulm
14:55 Dulm Hello all
14:55 wizzyrea < has a strange and wonderful job sometimes
14:54 wizzyrea schuster: which email feed?
14:54 wizzyrea lol
14:54 jcamins Just 'cause I was curious whether it was true.
14:54 jcamins I just typed your name ten times and was about to hit enter when you appeared.
14:54 wizzyrea >.>
14:53 wizzyrea sorry I was absorbed in a discussion of social engineering
14:53 jcamins owen was right
14:53 jcamins Ha!
14:53 wizzyrea yikes
14:53 wizzyrea I'm here!
14:50 Braedon Hello
14:50 LibraryGu Hello
14:49 reva Thanks kf; for the extra info on the Base URLS.
14:33 * sekjal turns towards the nearest mirror and chants "Guy made of bees", "Guy made of bees", "Guy made of bees"
14:32 kf hm. or was it beetlejuice?
14:32 kf wizzyrea
14:32 kf wizzyra
14:32 kf wizzyrea
14:31 kf wizzyrea
14:29 * owen wonders, "Or is it thirteen?"
14:29 owen schuster: You have to chant her name three times for her to appear
14:24 schuster I was going to ask her about the widget she has on the koha-community with the email feed... Anyone know anything about that?
14:23 schuster :(
14:23 schuster no wizzyrea...
14:23 mib_syff8 YAZ giving me this---> [109] Database unavailable -- v2 addinfo 'Default'
14:09 mib_syff8 I was koha user alright, that user is the only one I have setup with the correct env to run the rebuild script.......I'll try YAZ !!
14:08 jcamins I'd try the YAZ client.
14:08 mib_syff8 sorry no, I was thinkg of try YAZ client next.....I mean just running "zerbrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" and seeing the output
14:07 jcamins My new guess is that when you rebuilt the index you didn't do it as the koha user.
14:07 jcamins That's what I thought you said.
14:07 jcamins When you say "console mode," do you mean you're able to do the search from the console?
14:06 jcamins mib_syff8: wait, I think I misunderstood your question.
14:06 mib_syff8 can't search staff either though....
14:06 jcamins Try the third question.
14:06 jcamins mib_syff8: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
14:04 kf links to the records in the mail
14:04 mib_syff8 I'm having some search problems. I have rebuild my index and if I run zebrasrv in console mode I can see the search query but getting no hits, 1000's of bib there....anyone?
14:04 kf perhaps the staffurl is also used for sending carts from staff
14:04 kf afaik
14:04 kf the opacbaseurl is used for links in sent carts and "show in opac"links in staff
14:01 reva Thanks jcamins, owen, and kf.
14:00 reva ok, I will set it it to http://localhost:8080 and my OPAC to http://localhost. Owen, I hope we won't break Koha that way. But the test records (done by the trainees of course) are all wrong, so they may break it and the server.
13:57 owen ...or seeing if your server bursts into flames
13:57 kf performance tests
13:56 jcamins I have no idea, but that's what it's used for. I guess maybe checking lots of books out simultaneously, and seeing if anything breaks?
13:56 reva owen thanks. because sometimes I am too literal:). jcamins, what is load testing?
13:56 jcamins Wait, 'localhost:8080/'
13:56 jcamins reva: set it to 'localhost:8080'
13:55 owen reva that was just an example
13:55 reva owen, so in my case I would append the rest of the path to http://localhost:8080 (where ever my detail.pl is for the catalog module), correct? So the question now is should it be set to the catalog/details.pl? Hi jcamins.
13:53 jcamins reva: I'd set it anyway. There's no disadvantage.
13:53 jcamins Load testing only, it looks like.
13:49 owen I don't know offhand, but as far as I know it is recommended that you do.
13:48 reva owen, got it: so you are giving the full path from the root when you use the absolute URL. But what is the StaffClientBaseURL function? I mean what are the situations I would set this?
13:46 owen http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/detail.pl is a full or absolute URL
13:46 owen ../catalogue/detail.pl is a relative URL.
13:46 owen An absolute URL is a full URL. A relative URL is one which only works in reference to the current page.
13:45 reva ok, this is a regression routine:) I am not sure I understand absolute URL (though I have heard the term used before.)
13:44 owen Koha would use that setting whenever it needed to form an absolute URL to the staff client. This would only happen during operation of the staff client itself, not the OPAC
13:43 reva owen, I could not say if it was accurate or not as I found it was not explaining much on this point. Moving to setting the StaffClientBaseURL: let us say in our case I set my StaafclientBaseURL to http://localhost:8080 (which is our staff url), where would the link be displayed?
13:40 owen That's not true
13:40 owen It makes it sound like you can set OPACBaseURL to what you *want* your opac's url to be
13:39 owen Yeah, I would say the Wayne State manual is inaccurate on this particular point
13:38 owen I see
13:38 reva It was in the community site. I have downloaded the pdf from the link there.
13:37 owen reva: Where did you find the link to the Wayne state manual?
13:37 reva Thanks owen: Because I was reading the Wayne state manual (for the 3.0) and it was too cryptic.:)
13:36 reva so I can set my OPACBaseURL to http://localhost and it will display a link to the OPAC version of a record I am in (or working on) in the staff side, correct? But I do not understand the function of StaffclientBaseURL. First where would that link show?
13:30 owen reva: http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/index.php?ch=c19#AEN1771
13:28 reva So, basically right now whenever I use my staff client, I type http://localhost:8080; and for the OPAC, I type is http://localhost.
13:27 jcamins hdl: I cannot find the reference to non-left-anchored scans.
13:26 reva Good morning all, what happens when I set a OpacBaseUrl? (We are just on a peer network (no provider for a host or anything)). And what happens with StaffBaseUrl? Basically under what kind of networking situations would I set these options? Thanks.
13:18 Braedon good morn jcamins
13:16 jcamins hdl: I'm pretty sure the Zebra scan index is left-anchored, but I think there's some way to make it do a keyword index. I'll see if I can locate that.
13:15 jcamins Good morning, #koha
13:04 kf hm fredericd send a patch adding pagination - but seems not to be pushed
13:03 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4397 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, display problems (umlauts, ÃŸ) with scan index in advanced search
13:03 kf bug 4397
13:03 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4393 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Searching with scan indexes and sort by title fails
13:03 kf bug 4393
13:03 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3630 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW, probleme with scan indexes
13:03 kf bug 3630
13:03 kf I see 3 bugs in bugzilla for scan index
13:01 hdl information about scan and yaz are very scarce.
13:01 hdl well, atm maybe you are right.
13:00 kf not sure what koha's index search is supposed to be :)
13:00 kf I think the thing is is that I have an alphabetic index in mind and you a keyword index
13:00 kf hm
12:59 hdl I would like to get "Au Diable vauvert"
12:59 hdl For instance if I type diable with a scan @attr 1=7 @attr 5=3 @attr 6=3 Diable
12:59 kf see what is around my search term in the alphabetic index
12:59 kf to go back and forth
12:59 kf what I know from horizon about alphabetic indexes is very similar to the koha thing, what I miss is a pagination
12:58 kf I think we have different expectations
12:58 hdl I expected to be able to input any part of a subfield... And it would search that.
12:58 kf I am not sure I can explain right what I meant :(
12:57 kf so you see what is before and after your search too
12:57 hdl first point is not normal to me.
12:57 kf words
12:57 kf it's like a book of workds
12:57 kf yeah, taht seems normal to me
12:57 hdl But also other things.
12:56 kf ah ok
12:56 hdl I get some.
12:56 hdl Yes.
12:56 kf do you have dun in your database?
12:56 kf starting at the beginning
12:56 kf hdl: your description sounds ok to me - because that's what I expect from an index search
12:54 kf hdl: I have played with it, the display is broken for some characters, like ÃŸ and umlauts
12:52 hdl b) when you search for "Dun" you can get things like "duo"....
12:52 hdl a) it is not taking into account any truncation attribute... That is you cannot scan for something which is NOT the beginning of the subfield
12:50 hdl I am having quite surprising answers using scan indexes. Anyone who played with that ?
12:50 hdl hi all.
12:40 druthb larsw: I have discovered that a moderately-well-powered slam of my door disrupts them for a little bit.
12:39 owen Man if I had a nickel for every time I opened up opac-shelves.pl expecting to find something useful...
12:38 owen druthb: Tell it to my kids!
12:38 larsw what you need is noise-activated sprinklers
12:38 jwagner Fortunately, our boss is quite open to the concept of working from home :-)
12:37 druthb Yes. The notion of "inside voices" never seemed to catch on among certain people here.
12:37 jwagner And in both places, people tend to converse at the tops of their little lungs :-(
12:36 druthb it's *never* terribly quiet here, unfortunately. my office is directly across from the breakroom, and jwagner's is very close to the copier/printer/scanner for this end of the building.
12:33 * owen likes coming to work early when it's quiet
12:32 jwagner The traffic isn't as bad that early -- I'd rather get to work at 7:30 half-awake than deal with the traffic that would be in place if I tried coming in at 8:30.
12:29 druthb no, I usually leave here on a 15:30 bus, and do some evening work occasionally.
12:28 owen I hope that means you're not working til 5PM
12:28 druthb owen: yep; usually around 07:30, local time. I catch a 6:30 bus to get here.
12:27 kf hi owen
12:27 owen jwagner and druthb you really start early!
11:49 jwagner Hi kf
11:48 kf hi jwagner :)
11:45 jwagner hi kmkale
11:44 kmkale hi jwagner
11:43 jwagner Hi magnus
11:42 magnus hi jwagner
11:40 kmkale hi magnus
11:40 paul_p hi magnus
11:39 magnus hiya druthb, paul_p, chris_n, kmkale et al
11:39 druthb hi, kmkale! :)
11:38 kmkale hi druthb
11:30 druthb hiya, kf. :)
11:29 kf good morning druthb :)
11:24 druthb mornin'.
07:58 kf it's really like nothing
07:58 kf still have to buy a lot of things... uh
07:58 magnus hi kf - that's like almost nothing! ;-)
07:57 kf 18 days!!
07:57 kf hi magnus :)
07:52 magnus g'day #koha
07:42 kf isn't it too early for you?
07:42 kf hi chris_n1
07:42 hdl hi all
07:28 ivanc hi kf
07:28 kf hi ivanc
07:18 ivanc good morning #koha
07:15 kf hi Amit
07:14 Amit heya kf
07:13 Amit hi kmkale
07:13 kmkale hi Amit, chris
07:13 kf hi kmkale
07:13 kmkale hi kf, hdl
07:09 kf good morning hdl
07:07 kf good morning #koha
05:26 REFORMER is Installation " KOHA-ILS " on Ubuntu is same as on debian-lenny, I want to install ubuntu via window installer
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03:48 Amit heya brendan
03:47 brendan heya Amit
03:14 Amit hi chris
01:35 chris :)
01:27 chris_n1 0.01 is *not* 10%
01:26 * chris_n1 finds a blundering error in the labels code :-P
01:13 brendan yeah take tomorrow off dude
01:12 chris i think ill finish at 4pm today
01:12 chris heh
01:11 robin chris: you should take tomorrow off
00:59 * chris just realised this is his 12th day in a row working, cos i did the go live last weekend, no wonder im having trouble concentrating
00:56 chris if its weather like this for the conference ill be happy
00:54 chris its hard to know in town tho, cos all the glass and concrete reflect the heat around
00:54 chris which is about right for october
00:54 brendan ah
00:54 chris nope its at least 16 out
00:54 chris cept for the clouds bit
00:54 brendan 16 would be unseasonable warm eh?
00:53 brendan heh
00:53 robin chris: although, that's about right
00:53 chris i guess cos its out at the airport
00:53 chris :)
00:53 chris its pretty much always wrong
00:52 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0ï¿½C (1:00 PM NZDT on October 01, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 5.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
00:52 chris @wunder wellington, nz
00:52 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 21.6ï¿½C (5:55 PM PDT on September 30, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 14.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Steady).
00:52 brendan @wunder 93117