Time Nick Message 00:04 jcamins Anyone know where the patch for bug 5101 got to? 00:04 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5101 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Creators tab isn't highlighted when selected 00:14 chris_n http://gitorious.org/koha-dev/koha-dev/commit/d10b4d31a0d8a03a4410b624c6b292f1657de488 00:14 chris_n or 00:14 chris_n http://www.mail-archive.com/koha-patches@lists.koha-community.org/msg00464.html 00:14 chris_n per google 00:15 jcamins Oh, sorry, that wasn't a literal "where is the patch" question. 00:15 jcamins It was more of a "where in the process is the patch" question. 00:21 chris_n its marked for HEAD, so it will probably appear in the 3.4 branch when it appears 00:21 jcamins Okay. 00:21 jcamins Thanks. 00:22 chris_n np 00:22 jcamins How do I make sure that a file deletion shows up in my patch? 00:22 jcamins I think you have to do something special? 00:22 chris_n git rm <file-to-remove> 00:23 jcamins Thanks. 00:24 chris_n good luck wasabi 00:25 jcamins Heh. 00:25 wasabi no, good luck to the current site-admins of www.koha.org... 00:25 jcamins It could happen. 00:25 * chris_n holds his breath 00:26 wasabi ... its currently *their* stupid problem, not mine 00:26 chris_n fortunately it is impossible to hold one's breath to the point of death :-) 00:28 wasabi a problem with a rather obvious solution too 00:30 jcamins Hm. 00:30 jcamins I guess there's no way to e-mail a patch to the bugzilla to attach to a bug? 00:31 chris_n I'm not sure... chris would probably know 00:31 jcamins In the meantime I guess I'd better download my patch so I can upload it... 00:34 jcamins Oh, you can attach by URL. 00:34 wasabi aah, thats way cool 00:35 jcamins git send-email isn't a git command? 00:35 jcamins What? 00:36 * jcamins bangs his head on the table 00:37 jcamins Why doesn't git send-email work on Debian? 00:38 wasabi its a separate package 00:38 jcamins Ah. 00:38 jcamins Any idea what the package is? 00:38 wasabi mason@xen1:~/koha$ dpkg -l|grep git-email 00:38 wasabi ii git-email 1:1.7.1-1.1~bpo50+1 fast, scalable, distributed revision control 00:39 jcamins It says it's broken. :( 00:39 wasabi http://packages.debian.org/lenny/git-email 00:40 wasabi ive got the backports version... 00:40 wasabi http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/git-email 00:41 jcamins I think I am very unimpressed with Debian's packaging system. 00:41 jcamins However, I think that did it. 00:41 jcamins Thanks. 00:42 wasabi well, its about 10,00 times faster than my lappy's darwin-ports 00:42 jcamins Woohoo! git send-email works! 00:43 wasabi alias git-email='git send-email --to koha-patches@lists.koha-community.org' 00:44 jcamins chris: I sent you a patch for bug 5261 to sign off on. 00:44 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5261 enhancement, P5, ---, koha, ASSIGNED, Can't get to Cataloging sysprefs from Local Use 00:44 jcamins wasabi: Ooh, good idea. 00:47 jcamins Where are all the patches that need sign-offs? 01:00 chris http://www.google.com/search?q=site:stats.workbuffer.org+inurl:koha <-- trick 01:05 jcamins Okay, that's just weird. 01:20 jcamins Is there any way to download a patch from the mailing list archives? 01:28 chris yup 01:31 chris hmm at least i thought there was 01:34 chris hmm looks like only the whole mailbxo 01:34 chris http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-patches/ 01:39 chris nice work on the signoff ;) 01:41 jcamins :) Thanks. 01:41 jcamins Oh, speaking of which. 01:42 jcamins wasabi: when you change your OpacNotPublic patch to an OpacPrivate patch, let me know and I'll sign off on it. 01:49 jcamins @later tell owen Do you want me to sign-off on your patch for bug 3013? 01:49 munin jcamins: The operation succeeded. 01:51 jcamins Okay, bed time. 01:51 jcamins Good night, #koha 03:02 brendan heya amit 03:02 Amit heya brendan 03:05 brendan chris_n around? 03:56 wasabi oops, TCL fail... 04:01 robin wasabi: so, situation normal then... 04:02 wasabi a minor blip, im not complaining :) 04:12 robin wonder if that was a big quake somewhere else, or a small one here. 04:16 robin ah, big one somewhere else. Only looks like a 6 though 06:12 brendan night 07:17 chris hi magnus 07:17 magnus g'day chris 09:39 ivanc hallo #koha 09:45 magnus hi ivanc 09:45 ivanc hi magnus 10:25 wasabi http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/09/28/2030226/Father-of-Java-James-Gosling-Unloads 10:37 wasabi ...very interesting stuff 11:44 Braedon apparently google can 11:44 Braedon can't find you in a valley in new zealand... :P 11:55 druthb mornin'. 11:58 magnus hiya druthb 11:58 druthb :) 12:04 kmkale hi all 12:05 druthb hi, kmkale. :) 12:05 kmkale hi druthb 12:07 magnus hi kmkale 12:07 kmkale hi magnus 13:05 schuster Look out Ruth's in the house! 13:06 jcamins Morning, #koha 13:10 * druthb hides from schuster. 13:10 jwagner No, no -- it's your turn! I had to hide from him yesterday :-) 13:11 * jwagner hides from everyone.... 13:11 * druthb wants to hide a lot, lately. 13:11 owen #koha is a good place to hide 13:12 druthb That depends on what you're hiding *from*, owen. It's about as good a place to hide as the middle of a football field, for me. 13:13 owen This place is so quiet lately though 13:15 lgw_wrt looks like last night's fixes are working 13:15 lgw_wrt but i could still use some MARC help if anyone is willing to provide it... 13:17 jcamins lgw_wrt: I can't promise anyone will be able to help, but if you ask your question, someone might be able to at least suggest where to look for the answer. 13:18 lgw_wrt i figured...so here goes 13:19 lgw_wrt I've never created MARC records before, and they appear to be very overwhelming. 13:19 lgw_wrt I'd like to create something for my organization that represents our CD/DVD/BD archives 13:19 lgw_wrt Some discs have one project, some have many. FIle listings would be great in the description. 13:19 lgw_wrt I just don't know where to start that is not as confusing as the templates i've seen online 13:22 jcamins Ah. Unfortunately I mostly avoid cataloging non-book formats. 13:24 jcamins Well, that's fortunate for me, but not so fortunate for you. ;) 13:24 lgw_wrt :) 13:25 lgw_wrt would Koha not be the right solution for what I want? 13:25 owen lgw_wrt: We have CD-ROMs in our collection, but a quick look doesn't turn up any examples which include a file listing. 13:25 owen http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&limit=mc-ccode%3ACDR 13:25 owen I'm not a cataloger, so I can't tell you any more than that. 13:26 jcamins lgw_wrt: no, it probably would be, I just don't have any advice more helpful than "the MARC format documentation describes the 007 field (and all the others)." 13:28 owen lgw_wrt: Any sane person would be asking "is MARC the right solution for what I want?" 13:28 jcamins lgw_wrt: actually, I guess it depends. If all you want is a finding aid, you might be better off using Archivist's Toolkit. 13:28 owen But library people are not sane. 13:28 jcamins owen: you noticed? :) 13:29 lgw_wrt i'll take a look at both and see what looks right 13:29 collum lgw_wrt: We are not on Koha, but it looks like our catalogers put the contents in the 505 field. http://bit.ly/bqzlc3 13:29 jcamins lgw_wrt: http://www.archiviststoolkit.org/ 13:30 jcamins Do you have materials other than the disk archive? 13:30 lgw_wrt not right now 13:30 jcamins Do you lend the disks out? 13:31 lgw_wrt we do 13:31 lgw_wrt that's why we're looking at this type of system. we keep losing track on our hand-written sheets 13:31 jcamins Okay. I'm not sure how AT does with lending. 13:31 schuster Are the disks proprietary stuff or comercially produced stuff? 13:31 lgw_wrt proprietary 13:31 * collum is looking for CDRoms with file contents 13:32 lgw_wrt be back in a bit... 13:32 schuster Do the files have to be on disks or could you store them on servers? 13:32 lgw_wrt on discs...we archive to regain space. 13:32 lgw_wrt i have to go handle another issue. i'll be back in a while. i'lll keep this open and check for comments when i get back 13:34 schuster lgw_wrt - yes the 505 - content note would be your best bet at first look on where to put file names. The problem becomes if they cover different concerns. 13:34 schuster Then you almost need to analytically catalog each file and indicate which disk it would be on and relate all of the titles. 13:35 schuster A lot of it depends on the down the road what is your goal, and how much time you have to do the cataloging as it all looks like original cataloging. 13:36 schuster You could probably pay a good cataloger to create a template so then you only have to put in a "FEW" of the tags rather than starting from scratch every time. 13:52 lgw_wrt each disc is for a specific archive, although some hold multiples. cataloging each disc is relatively simple 14:10 lgw_wrt i'm thinking this may be beyond what i can do with my allotted resources. i have no funding for this project, and no staff assistance (our IT dept is 2 people for 150 ) 14:14 jcamins lgw_wrt: yeah, Koha might not be the right thing for you. 14:24 ebegin Anybody has problem with the Year limit? 14:25 ebegin As soon as I use a date limit, nothing is found... I would like to find in the pubdate (260$c) field. 14:40 Braedon ebegin: using zebra? 14:41 * druthb waves to kmkale and wizzyrea_ 14:41 kmkale hi wizzyrea_ 14:42 wizzyrea_ hi kmkale! 14:42 wizzyrea_ hi druthb! 14:47 Braedon ebegin: i have to run (and by run i mean sleep), but if you are using nozebra indexing, that could well be your problem. If you are using zebra, no clue sorry. 14:48 jcamins ebegin: the problem may be that you don't have dates in the 008 field. 14:48 lgw_wrt just imported a record created using "Archivist's Toolkit". It imported successfully, but I can't seem to search for it. Any advice? 14:48 Braedon is a zebra indexing job running? 14:49 lgw_wrt how do i check? 14:49 jcamins lgw_wrt: I've never used AT, I just know that it is good for archival collections. 14:50 lgw_wrt i created the MARC record using AT so I could have a "template" to work with 14:50 Braedon (the answer to all search related issues is blame zebra or nozerbra :P) 14:50 lgw_wrt the import into koha was successful, but i can't search for my record 14:50 jcamins Braedon: good night. 14:50 jcamins lgw_wrt: try reindexing? 14:50 lgw_wrt how? 14:50 jcamins rebuild_zebra.pl 14:51 Braedon but alas i really should get to bed, being 4am and all. sorry lgw_wrt, look on the wiki for zebra script stuffs 14:51 Braedon night jcamins 14:52 jcamins lgw_wrt: do you have any records in Koha? 14:52 jcamins Other than the one you just added, I mean. 14:52 lgw_wrt no. that's where i've been struggling 14:52 jcamins Okay. 14:53 lgw_wrt error on rebuild_zebra...missing a perl module. installing that right now 14:53 jcamins http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 14:55 wizzyrea_ is there something odd about the withdrawn authorized value? 14:55 wizzyrea_ something different from the other authorized values? 14:56 jcamins Well, we don't have any category for it, but I am imagining that's a misconfiguration on our part. 14:57 wizzyrea_ hmmm 14:58 lgw_wrt the debian install never created a kohauser, so scripts can't run under that user 14:58 jcamins lgw_wrt: how did you install Koha? 14:59 lgw_wrt sqeeuze/koha apt source 14:59 jcamins Hm. 14:59 jcamins When I did that it created a Koha user. 15:00 jcamins I think it was koha-[something]. 15:00 lgw_wrt scripts also can't find c4 perl modules. 15:00 lgw_wrt i'm thinking this is more of a headache than i need right now 15:00 lgw_wrt i love the power of koha, but it's just too frustrating right now to get up and running for my environment 15:01 jcamins lgw_wrt: the FAQ gives you the command to put the C4 modules in your environment. 15:02 jcamins PERL5LIB=/wherever/koha/is 15:02 jcamins export PERL5LIB 15:02 jcamins Oh, you also need: 15:02 jcamins KOHA_CONF=/path/to/koha-conf.xml 15:02 jcamins export KOHA_CONF 15:03 jcamins However, since you have no resources for this project, I (personally) would probably tend to agree that administering Koha might be a bit much. 15:04 lgw_wrt maybe again in the future. 15:04 lgw_wrt thanks to all for the assistance 15:06 jcamins You're welcome. 15:06 jcamins Good luck. 15:06 kmkale bye all 15:19 ebegin jcamins, sorry, I had to step away. Concerning the search on the year, you are correct, i don't have data in the 008 field, the data I want to search is in the 260$c, which is the copydate index 15:21 jcamins ebegin: yeah, you can't limit on that. 15:21 jcamins However, it is possible to search on copydate. 15:22 jcamins If I can remember how... 15:22 ebegin Oh, that is why the seach on it works but not the limit 15:22 ebegin s/seach/search 15:23 ebegin Where are set the fields for the limit? 15:23 jcamins 008. 15:24 jcamins I don't know how to change that. 15:42 ebegin ok, thanks for the hint jcamins, i'll look into it 15:48 nengard question about the items table - what is stored in the reserves field? the current number of holds or all the holds ever placed on the item? 15:48 wizzyrea_ the 2nd 15:48 nengard ick 15:48 wizzyrea_ er 15:48 wizzyrea_ no, sorry I misunderstood 15:48 wizzyrea_ the current holds 15:48 nengard :) woo hoo 15:48 nengard thanks 15:48 wizzyrea_ the old holds go to the deleted reserves 15:48 wizzyrea_ or old reserves 15:48 wizzyrea_ can't remember 15:48 wizzyrea_ but they move on outta there 15:49 wizzyrea_ had a situation just yesterday where I had to look up an accidentally deleted hold and sho nuff it was in the old reserves 15:52 nengard k - so when it moves to old it subtracts one from 'reserves' 16:01 nengard need help 16:01 wizzyrea_ yep 16:01 nengard writing a report to show items that are overdue that have holds on them ... i want it to show who has the book out so i cna call them and say give us the book cause it has holds on it 16:01 nengard this is what i have - it's wrong 16:02 nengard and my brain is tired 16:02 nengard SELECT borrowers.cardnumber, borrowers.surname, borrowers.firstname, borrowers.phone, borrowers.address, borrowers.city, borrowers.zipcode, issues.date_due, (TO_DAYS(curdate())-TO_DAYS( date_due)) AS 'days overdue', items.itype, biblio.title, biblio.author, items.itemcallnumber, items.barcode, COUNT(reserves.biblionumber) AS 'holds' FROM borrowers LEFT JOIN issues ON (borrowers.borrowernumber=issues.borrowernumber) LEFT JO 16:02 nengard IN items ON (issues.itemnumber=items.itemnumber) LEFT JOIN biblio ON (items.biblionumber=biblio.biblionumber) LEFT JOIN reserves ON (biblio.biblionumber=reserves.biblionumber) 16:02 nengard GROUP BY reserves.biblionumber WHERE issues.branchcode = 'VSN5' AND holds >= 1 ORDER BY borrowers.surname ASC, issues.date_due ASC 16:02 wizzyrea_ zounds 16:04 nengard first it was in the wrong order a bit 16:04 nengard so here it is again: 16:04 nengard SELECT borrowers.cardnumber, borrowers.surname, borrowers.firstname, borrowers.phone, borrowers.address, borrowers.city, borrowers.zipcode, issues.date_due, (TO_DAYS(curdate())-TO_DAYS( date_due)) AS 'days overdue', items.itype, biblio.title, biblio.author, items.itemcallnumber, items.barcode, COUNT(reserves.biblionumber) AS 'holds' FROM borrowers LEFT JOIN issues ON (borrowers.borrowernumber=issues.borrowernumber) LEFT JO 16:04 nengard IN items ON (issues.itemnumber=items.itemnumber) LEFT JOIN biblio ON (items.biblionumber=biblio.biblionumber) LEFT JOIN reserves ON (biblio.biblionumber=reserves.biblionumber) WHERE issues.branchcode = 'VSN5' AND holds >= 1 GROUP BY reserves.biblionumber ORDER BY borrowers.surname ASC, issues.date_due ASC 16:04 nengard i tried querying items.reserves - but that didn't work 16:13 reva hi all again, there is a .pl script called bulkauthorityimport in the same folder as the bulkmarcimport; has anyone here tried it? Also, do I pick "run" option in the options that come up when I "open"? (I mean does it run a GUI version of it as opposed to "run in terminal" option? 16:15 nengard sekjal helped me - report going to the wiki as soon as i eat 16:17 reva Just FYI: the link to the 3.2 manual on this page seems broken or something: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/authorities/ 16:18 reva The link appears here: For more information, navigate to the 3.2 Manual and scroll down to section 1.4.1.3 and see the entry on ‘Thesaurus.’ 16:28 owen Hi rhcl, did you get my reply to your patron search message? 16:36 reva hi anyone, as you know I run a Live CD version of Koha 3.0.6. It has gotten quite a few records, all done by trainee staff for practice. It would be too much work to correct them all. So I would like to reinstall the Koha part alone without starting from scratch (i.e., leave the ubuntu server untouched in ubuntu/koha appliance). Is there a way to do it? 16:36 rhcl owen: was away from desk for a sec, lemme look 16:37 reva Oh, I forgot to mention, my Live CD is right now in the VirtualBox. 16:38 jcamins reva: you need to run the scripts from the command line. 16:39 jcamins And why don't you just delete all the records, if that's what you want to do? 16:39 reva ok, I am game. But are you answering the question running the perl scripts? 16:40 jcamins I have never used bulkauthorityimport, but I do know that you can't run the scripts by double-clicking. 16:40 jcamins They won't work without the appropriate arguments. 16:41 reva I suppose I can delete the records, but deleting does not get rid of the log entries for them. So looking at the log is messy. 16:43 jcamins Hm. 16:43 jcamins I would suggest that is probably a better option than trying to reinstall Koha. 16:44 jcamins Wait, why can't you just reinstall the entire system? 16:44 jcamins It's a LiveCD, so it's preconfigured. 16:44 reva jcamins, this is in regards to running perl scripts: when I right clicked on one of them, it gave me two options: one to "Open" and another to "Open with other application"; when I clicked to "Open" it came up with further option to "display", "run" or "run in terminal". That was why I asked as to what exactly "run" does as opposed to "run in termina". 16:45 jcamins reva: you shouldn't be right-clicking them at all. You need to open up a terminal and run them from the terminal. 16:45 jcamins So you open the terminal, change to the directory they are in, and run them from there. 16:45 jcamins reva: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/command_line_intro 16:46 reva jcamins, I can; but I did not have to go through running all those commands for clipboard/desktop integration. (Braedon walked me through that; I have the instructions saved; but it is a pain.) 16:47 reva jcamins, I will look at the link you have given here. 16:48 jcamins I would suggest just deleting the records and dealing with the data in the log. 16:48 jcamins Just always make sure you look at the log starting September 29. 16:50 reva jcamins, Yeah, I suppose I can mark the cut off date and the bib and item record numbers where we start "serious" input.:) 16:53 reva Anyway, we will be installing the 3.2 directly on the hard drive with Debian. I am leaving the Live CD in the VirtualBox (just in case situation to serve as a template and for future training in case of staff change). 16:54 jcamins reva: in that case why does it matter at all? 16:54 nengard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Overdues_With_Holds_Waiting 16:54 reva I know; it should not jcamins; but I am a tidiness freak. 16:57 jcamins My rule of thumb is that anything that doesn't significantly impact my patrons or my productivity doesn't matter. It means I'm only surprisingly gray and not entirely gray. ;) 16:57 reva what do you mean? as in mature? 16:58 reva I meant about the word "grey" in your comment. But I saw your avatar picture in one of the FAQ comments. You do not have grey hair:) 16:59 reva I will try to be mature too about being obsessive with behind the scenes things, jcamins:0 16:59 jcamins reva: no, everyone in my family goes gray young, and I blame it on dealing with MARC. ;) 17:00 jcamins That's a very old picture. 17:01 reva So vain to put in a very old picture:). And I can very well see a direct cause and effect association with MARC tags and going grey early. 17:04 jcamins Actually, I just didn't have any other good pictures of myself in digital format. ;) 17:07 reva ok, ok, take that comment back about vanity. I am reading the contents on the page you just pointed me to; it starts me off at an elementary level: I have to say, my minor was Computer Science and that was when there were only Unix terminals:P and gnu debuggers, emacs and vi editor> 17:08 jcamins Oh, then just pull up a terminal, and go to. :) 17:12 reva Ok, I will get back with more questions, I am sure. Thanks jcamins. 17:36 rhcl munin - bug 5266 17:36 munin rhcl: Error: "-" is not a valid command. 17:36 rhcl deal with it dude 17:36 rhcl bug 5266 17:36 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5266 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron Search Produces Incorrectly Sorted and Missing Results 18:02 owen nengard around? 18:02 nengard 1/2 18:03 owen nengard I don't understand Bug 5267 18:03 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5267 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, koha logo shouldn't be on authorities page 18:03 owen The koha logo is on almost every staff client page 18:03 owen Any page which has a search box at the top has the Koha logo 18:04 nengard you know what - my brain is so wiped out - it's that the search box is below the logo instead of to the right of it that made it look funny 18:04 nengard and that might be that i was zoomed in 18:04 nengard hang on 18:04 owen I see, the layout does break if your browser window is too small 18:05 owen The authorities search form is wider than most 18:08 nengard closed as invalid - i have been going nonstop since last sunday so my brain has no more power in it and i'm doing silly/stupid things 18:09 owen Thanks for clarifying nengard 18:10 nengard no prob - thanks for pointing it out to me 18:11 owen Bug 5265 is a good one though :) 18:11 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5265 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, error message on lists is misleading 18:23 nengard :) 18:23 nengard i do have 1/2 a brain today 18:23 * owen looks forward to reading 50% of your bug reports today 18:24 nengard LOL 18:24 nengard i'm done 18:24 nengard i'm going to the airport now!! home for a rest of the brain 18:40 chris Morning 18:40 owen Hi chris 18:41 chris Hey owen how's things? 18:42 owen Not bad. Been fighting with Drupal for the last few days. 18:42 * chris_n greets chris 18:42 chris_n and hands owen a bigger stick 18:43 owen Thanks chris_n, I'm wearing Drupal down through perseverance 18:43 chris Owen: shiny knows craploads about drupal 18:44 chris If you get stuck pester her :) 18:45 owen Usually if I get stuck I just work on Koha for a few weeks ;) 18:45 chris Heh 18:46 hdl hi 18:47 chris Hi hdl 18:47 chris Started packing yet? 18:47 chris :) 18:48 wizzyrea_ /me has started packing 18:48 wizzyrea_ srs. 18:49 chris heh 18:49 chris Based on today, bring a rain coat 18:52 chris Ok my stop 19:10 briceSanc hello 19:11 chris back 19:14 briceSanc We have to change the default Koha template for our client's needs. With your experience, what is the best approach to not be too upset when Koha be updated ? 19:14 owen briceSanc: Are you *sure* you need to change the template? 19:15 briceSanc I'm sure 19:15 chris what do you need it to do? 19:15 briceSanc not the template engine but the design 19:16 briceSanc am�liorations ergonomiques, nouvelles couleurs, ... 19:16 briceSanc oops 19:16 ebegin hehe :) 19:16 briceSanc ergonomic improvements, new colors ... 19:17 owen briceSanc: I'd be happy to advise you on changes which can be made via CSS if you can share specifics 19:17 briceSanc ctrl+c,v problem :) 19:17 owen Colors are an obvious thing which don't require a new template 19:17 ebegin There is no really easy way other than limiting your modification of the .tmpl file. When a new verison is release, compare the previous community-release to the new one and adapt your template accordingly 19:17 chris yeah you can probably do a lot of that with jquery and css 19:18 chris so yeah do as much as you possibly can that way, otherwise you just make upgrading harder and harder 19:18 wizzyrea_ < was in the template updating trap 19:18 wizzyrea_ I escaped with jquery 19:18 chris ohh way cool 19:18 chris check out the latest message to the list 19:18 chris http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5260 19:18 munin 04Bug 5260: enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, It would be nice if Koha's Acquisition module could order by email 19:18 wizzyrea_ OOOOO 19:19 wizzyrea_ oooOOOooo 19:19 wizzyrea_ that's a good one 19:19 chris with a patch to test out 19:19 chris i need 6 more hands 19:19 sekjal chris: I hear you on that; want to test, don't have so much the time right now 19:19 wizzyrea_ I might get to it in a couple of days 19:19 ebegin when you mean with jquery, you mean that you are updating the site DOM with JQuery function? 19:19 wizzyrea_ I have a couple of libraries who migt want that 19:20 owen ebegin: You can use system prefs to embed jQuery which changes HTML on the page 19:20 chris ill reply and say, very cool, #koha on irc got quite excited 19:20 ebegin owen: what about the performances? 19:20 cait hi #koha 19:21 sekjal gtg. later, #koha 19:21 wizzyrea_ bye i... oh bother 19:21 owen ebegin: The only answer to that question is test it 19:21 briceSanc ok thanks for your answers 19:21 ebegin :) 19:21 chris ebegin: firefox and chromium are fast, ie 7 .... not so much 19:21 ebegin briceSanc, there is another option... 19:22 ebegin Make such a kick ass template that the whole community will adopt it ;) 19:22 briceSanc :) 19:22 briceSanc it would be nice 19:22 briceSanc i want but i don't know for my client... 19:23 chris right, emailed edgar 19:29 briceSanc bye everyone, i return to the hourly loan 19:29 owen Missed opportunity 19:30 jcamins owen: what opportunity? 19:30 owen To preach the customization gospel of CSS and jQuery 19:30 chris :) 19:30 jcamins Oh, well, I'm converted. 19:31 owen Or at the very least to be able to say "Yeah, you need a new template for that, sucks to be you" ;) 19:31 jcamins Of course, I mostly want to add new pages, not modify existing ones. 19:34 slef morning 19:34 chris hi slef 19:35 slef it's all go here this week... bones on the beach Monday, hotel on fire tonight 19:35 chris yikes! 19:35 chris human bones? 19:36 slef yes... let me get the link from http://identi.ca/mjray 19:36 slef http://bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-england-somerset-11418528 19:36 slef hotel on fire is http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-england-bristol-11439046 19:36 chris we've just got whales :( 19:37 chris http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39306691/ns/us_news-environment/ 19:37 slef yeah, something I wondered... instead of NZ pushing them back into the sea and Japan dodgily hunting "for scientific research", why doesn't NZ export the stupid ones to Japan? 19:37 chris heh 19:37 chris is the hotel near you? 19:38 slef not massively, but I go past it on my way into town 19:38 chris happy whale 19:38 chris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdVHZwI8pcA 19:38 wizzyrea_ oo, whale watching 19:38 slef Kewstoke Toll Road is closed, which is my usual route in 19:40 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4177843/Conservationists-free-entangled-whale <-- and good whale news 19:43 chris_n @wunder 28334 19:43 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 21.1�C (3:49 PM EDT on September 29, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 996.8 hPa (Steady). Flash Flood Watch in effect through Thursday afternoon... 19:43 * chris_n goes after his canoe 19:43 chris :) 19:44 chris_n although "Light Rain" is a bit of an understatement 19:46 jcamins @wunder 11105 19:46 munin jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 25.0�C (3:51 PM EDT on September 29, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). Flood Watch in effect from late tonight through late Friday night... 19:47 jcamins What, now that the threat of tornado is past we have to worry about flooding? 19:47 slef jcamins: yep, if the rain doesn't get you from above, it will from below. 19:49 jcamins Lucky us. 19:52 jcamins owen: I won't be doing it tonight, but would you like me to sign-off on your patch for the 006 builder? 19:53 cait jcamins++ 19:53 owen Sure jcamins, if it looks good to you. Thanks 19:53 cait thx for signing-off my patch! 19:53 jcamins cait: you're welcome. 19:54 jcamins cait: oh, that reminds me. Is there any chance you could send your patch for the ohloh links directly to me? Apparently you can't download just one message from the archives, and our mail server ran out of room so I had to delete my local archives. 19:54 jcamins I'll sign off on it. 19:55 jcamins I'm feeling sign-off-y, probably because this allows me to avoid my own development for a while. 19:55 cait jcamins: no problem 19:56 cait will try to do it tomorrow 19:56 jcamins Thanks. 19:56 ebegin Am i correct when I state that we cannot delete a vendor? 19:57 ebegin (other than removing it from the db) 19:57 owen ebegin: Yes 19:57 owen But you can make it inactive 19:57 ebegin Is there a reason? 19:58 owen Because you might have past orders in the system from that vendor 19:59 chris yeah if you ahve ever ordered anything from that vendor, the item will be linked to it 19:59 chris but we should allow ppl to delete ones that have never been used 19:59 ebegin that what I was about to suggest. 19:59 chris interviewee is late ... not a good start 20:00 slef chris: depends on the explanation. 20:00 chris true 20:00 owen "Found bones on the beach on way to interview" 20:00 slef "my bus got stuck under a whale" might pass, for example 20:00 cait ebegin: i wrote a bug report for " can not delete vendor " 20:00 slef but they should have emailed 20:00 cait it's somewhere in bugzilla 20:00 slef assuming the whale had wifi 20:01 ebegin ok, thanks cait! 22:22 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 4084: remove \r from header line for sake of consistency <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ccadb31c21e5fee9712dfc5933c93747e2fe30f6> / (bug #4084) fix offline circ <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d990e2cd32a026c60c00c8c2acbab29f530c35e7> 23:07 brendan @wunder 93117 23:07 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 26.3�C (4:10 PM PDT on September 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling).