Time  Nick        Message
23:50 munin       brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 28.9�C (4:52 PM PDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady).
23:50 brendan_l   @wunder 93117
22:55 jcamins     (so it says there are no variables)
22:55 jcamins     When you click on the link to go to System Preferences from the main Admin screen, it brings you to the Local Use tab but with preferences.pl?
22:54 jcamins     Does anyone else experience the following:
22:54 jcamins     Hm.
22:51 wasabi      robin++
22:48 jcamins     I was trying to determine I was in the right file by searching for "Acquisitions" (it's first alphabetically).
22:48 jcamins     Yes, and I knew that.
22:48 * chris     thought he said that :)
22:47 jcamins     Oh, stupid! Of course I'm not seeing it. We don't use systempreferences.pl for anything other than Local Use.
22:45 CGI581      iam new to koha....need help on installation and configuartion
22:45 jcamins     I'm still not seeing where these variables are set.
22:44 jcamins     Well, not entirely.
22:44 jcamins     That would explain why this seems to work other than the misspelling.
22:43 jcamins     Ah.
22:43 chris       not in html::template anyway
22:43 chris       no
22:43 jcamins_a   Are template variable names not case-sensitive?
22:26 chris       yay!
22:25 robin       and incorporate the new fixes from master
22:24 robin       lgw_wrt and anyone else interested: I've just published new versions of the packages which should fix that issue.
21:51 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Upgrade to support jQuery 1.4.2
21:51 robin       The patch is in bug 5184 - bit it's a bit of a bandaid.
21:48 robin       I haven't figured out the exact cause, but I'll see about building a new package without the issue, I fixed it in our internal deployment, but the debian.k-c.org ones track master, and this patch hasn't been pulled into there yet.
21:47 robin       lgw_wrt: ah, yeah, package error: it uses the system jquery rather than the built in one and things get hinky due to version mis-matches.
21:01 chris       no worries
21:01 lgw_wrt     thanks
21:01 lgw_wrt     ok...thanks.  i'l have to sign up on that, but i have to run to catch a train
21:01 chris       hmm i dont know of any, maybe ask on the main mailing list
21:00 chris       (it doesnt seem to happen when running from git or the tarball .. but we try to use the debian jquery library, instead of the one bundled with koha in the packages)
21:00 lgw_wrt     also, any good tutorials on creating a custom MARC?  the ones i've seen linked to seem complex for a newbie to the MARC idea
21:00 lgw_wrt     ok...thanks.
20:56 Joe         I got it. Looks like this isn't going to be easy. hehe. :-( Ah well, what's worth doing isn't necessarily easy. hehe. :-)
20:41 Joe         Gotcha, dredging up my Database Class in college. hehe. :-)
20:41 chris       brb
20:41 chris       etc
20:41 chris       describe serial;
20:41 chris       then
20:41 chris       (it will prompt for your password)
20:41 chris       mysql -uusername -p koha
20:40 chris       if you jump into mysql
20:40 Joe         I have it installed on Ubuntu.
20:40 Joe         I have Koha Setup on my machine as a trial run.
20:40 chris       do you have access to your database?
20:40 Joe         Those would be files in folders or can I get to those via the website interface?
20:39 chris       would be the ones
20:39 chris       serial, subscription, subscriptionhistory, and subscriptionroutinglist
20:38 Joe         Gotcha.
20:38 chris       basically you need to take a look at the serials table, in the koha db
20:37 chris       if anything exists and I dont think it does, it would be on wiki.koha-community.org
20:37 Joe         Is there a good place to go for a bit of guidance on importing data into Koha Serials?
20:35 chris       so most of the work would be matching fields up
20:35 chris       nope, you'd be the first doing it for EOS GLAS afaik
20:35 Joe         Is there a good tutorial on importing the data to Koha Serials?
20:34 chris       oh if you can get it out to CSV, you are most of the way along
20:34 Joe         Ah, thanks for the note. :-)
20:34 Joe         I don't think so, but I found what looks like a CSV file.
20:34 chris       (ps its Koha, not KOHA its a maori word not an acronym ... pet peeve of mine :))
20:33 chris       does it  have an export feature?
20:33 Joe         I am wanting to switch from that to KOHA Serials, but I would ideally be able to transfer our current holdings from our current Serials program.
20:33 chris       not me
20:32 Joe         Does anyone here, use EOS GLAS Serials Module?
20:13 chris       cya jcamins
20:12 jcamins     On which note, so long, #koha.
20:12 jcamins     Someone else can respond to Janusz. I'm too tired.
20:09 reva        thanks jcamins. I did not use colon, see:)
20:07 jcamins     *shelved
20:07 jcamins     For example for microfilms that are just shelves from 1 to whatever.
20:06 reva        hi anyone, what do you use the shelving control number for? It is unfamiliar to me from my previous incarnations:)
20:04 chris       np
20:04 CGI684      thanks guys
20:04 CGI684      i'll go read through this faq and see if that can't resolve my problem
20:04 CGI684      woohoo
20:04 chris       and is kept up to date ... tell your friends :-)
20:03 chris       (it explains why we had to move too)
20:03 chris       http://koha-community.org/ <-- the real koha site
20:03 CGI684      i've been living under a rock then lol
20:03 chris       (we dont have access to it)
20:03 CGI684      oh..
20:03 chris       and is unmaintainable by the koha community
20:03 CGI684      i'm on the latest git
20:03 chris       thats because the koha.org site isnt the official koha website anymore
20:02 CGI684      i don't think there's a link to it on the koha.org site
20:02 CGI684      oh wow, i have never seen this faq
20:01 jcamins     What version of Koha are you using?
20:01 jcamins     I can't remember which of those is the usual culprit, but I do remember that one of the procedures there often fixes that problem.
20:00 jcamins     CGI684: did you take a look a the FAQ? http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
19:56 rhcl        Uhhh ooohhh, I'm in big trouble now.
19:56 munin       rhcl: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
19:56 rhcl        @wunder nca
19:55 jcamins     rhcl: that came through completely warped. Perhaps munin can't understand UTF-8?
19:54 rhcl        I wanna do it my way. Ain't this Burger King?
19:54 collum      airport code
19:54 rhcl        :(
19:54 munin       rhcl: Error: No such location could be found.
19:54 rhcl        @wunder 21°30′18″N 71°45′14″W
19:54 munin       collum: The current temperature in Providenciales, Turks Islands is 31.0�C (4:00 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Falling).
19:54 collum      @wunder pls
19:53 jcamins     rhcl: ^^
19:53 munin       jcamins: The current temperature in Providenciales, Turks Islands is 31.0�C (3:00 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling).
19:53 jcamins     @wunder Providenciales, Turks Islands
19:52 reva        I meant munin of course.
19:52 munin       jcamins: Error: No such location could be found.
19:52 jcamins     @wunder Turks Islands
19:52 reva        chris, they are an overseas possession  of Britain int he caribbean; actually northeast of Puerta Rico.
19:51 munin       rhcl: Error: No such location could be found.
19:51 rhcl        @wunder 'Turks and Caicos'
19:51 munin       rhcl: Error: No such location could be found.
19:51 rhcl        @wunder Turks and Caicos
19:51 reva        ok jcamins thanks.I always saw them as part of the name, hee hee. I am ignorant in a lot of urban/techie things, sigh.
19:49 jcamins     reva: incidentally, IRC nicknames do not include ':'
19:48 munin       collum: The current temperature in Taylor Mill, Taylor Mill, Kentucky is 16.8�C (3:51 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Rising).
19:48 collum      @wunder 41017
19:48 reva        thanks jcamins:
19:47 jcamins     It looks up the weather with wunderground.com.
19:46 reva        what does @wunder mean? Just curious.
19:44 munin       chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 27.0�C (3:39 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1007 hPa (Falling).
19:44 chris_n     @wunder 28334
19:39 wizzyrea    just about perfect.
19:39 munin       wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 24.4�C (2:46 PM CDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Falling).
19:39 wizzyrea    @wunder lawrence ks
19:33 jcamins     _Another_ tornado watch?
19:33 munin       jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 23.2�C (3:35 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady).  Tornado Watch 686 in effect until 6 PM EDT this evening... 
19:32 jcamins     @wunder 11105
19:32 * cait      is envious
19:32 brendan     wow another record breaking "indian-summer" day here - no sleep for me tonight
19:32 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 29.9�C (12:36 PM PDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady).
19:32 brendan     @wunder 93117
19:29 munin       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.8�C (9:36 PM CEST on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady).
19:29 cait        @wunder Konstanz
19:02 chris       Bbiab
19:02 chris       Ok my stop
18:56 chris       The others are all covered by the new sysprefs code and are translatable
18:55 chris       If it just does the local use ones it would make more sense
18:54 jcamins     Perhaps I will try to eliminate the redundant include.
18:53 chris       Heh
18:52 jcamins     I just looked at the offending code.
18:52 jcamins     Huh.
18:45 chris       Sweet
18:44 jcamins     I will send it to you as soon as I write the patch. :)
18:44 jcamins     Okay. Thanks.
18:43 chris       If you email it to me, I will
18:42 jcamins     By the way, who wants to sign off on the patch I'm going to write to fix the link between the Local Use and Cataloging tabs in sysprefs?
18:42 jcamins     Hello.
18:41 rhcl        afternoon
18:38 chris_n     g'morning chris
18:38 chris       Morning
18:26 rhcl        hi cait
18:26 cait        hi #koha
18:12 wizzyrea    it's easy to read.
18:12 wizzyrea    can I say I really appreciate whoever wrote the batchMod.pl
17:44 reva        believe it or not, even before I got into the bowels of this, mark twain was the choice for me; I did not know then that he was a staid search authority search for developers. And without any exposure, another author I always input tested was Thomas Mann.
17:42 jcamins     That's the only example that comes to mind.
17:42 reva        ok, I will look under the fail-proof Clemens, Samuel Longhorn.:)
17:42 jcamins     And Samuel Clemens?
17:42 jcamins     Maybe search for Mark Twain?
17:41 jcamins     Not really, no.
17:38 reva        well what kf just wrote about clicking the links in OPAC and bringing up other works by the same author already worked for me. But I am not sure what turning on the AuthDisplayHierarchy did. Could you point me to a couple of good records in LC for testing the "see also" and "see from"?
17:33 reva        jcamins: ok, :) here it goes.
17:32 jcamins     The worst thing that will happen is that things will stop working, and then you can just disable it again.
17:32 jcamins     Maybe. Why don't you try it?
17:30 reva        ok, I will search authorities in sys pref. But as far as I can see, the only option among the four in that module that might do this is: AuthDisplayHierarchy. Could it be the one? (It is currently off in my settings.)
17:29 kf          bye all!
17:29 kf          I have to go now, quite late here
17:29 kf          and a click on an author in the opac will find all titles - if there is an authority behind it
17:28 kf          search for authorities
17:28 kf          I dont know the right sys pref name
17:28 kf          there it shows the see also forms, I don't think showing them in the catalog directly is very user friendly
17:28 reva        how do I activitate Authorites in OPAC? from where in the admin module?
17:27 kf          reva: you can activate authority search for opac too
17:26 reva        yes, for me to; but the other functionality of an authority is to lead the CATALOG user to other forms of the name, etc. Anyhow, about the other issue I just mentioned: 100, 710 entries squishing is for the very LCCN record: 95169646. You can import into your database and see for yourself
17:25 jcamins     (to link)
17:24 jcamins     Oh, they show up when I'm searching for an authority.
17:24 jcamins     I don't think I have any authority records with See references.
17:24 reva        jcamins: do the "see also "see from" references show for you in staff side?
17:23 jcamins     It'd be a very nice feature.
17:23 reva        jcamins: another thing I noticed: I have a 100 (Main entry-personal name) and a 710 (Added entry-corporate name), I have the proper MARC/ISBD paragraph punctuation: Taylor, B.N. But in the OPAC display it squished the semantic elements together from the 100 and 710 fields.
17:22 jcamins     I don't think you can.
17:22 jcamins     reva: I have no idea how to get See Also references to show in the OPAC.
17:16 reva        jcamins: would you ask (if you do not know it) about this?: In a set of search results, how do I set it so it shows "see also" references?
17:11 reva        Yes, I will file it as suggestion then in the bug site, if there is no mention of it yet.
17:11 jcamins     I would suggest filing a bug report, if one hasn't already been filed.
17:10 jcamins     reva: perhaps so, yes.
17:10 reva        Hi jcamins: maybe it is buggy? Because it is normal to show it at the head of the record even in Normal View.
17:08 jcamins     reva: it does not seem to show, no.
17:07 reva        Good afternoon y'all. I have a question regarding 245c in Koha 3.2. On the OPAC, does it show Title / Statement of Responsibility ? Because in my 3.0.6, 245c is set to show; but is showing only when I do the Card view (OPAC) and ISBD view (Staff side). The customary practice seems to be to have it show in the normal view also(Look at LCCN : 95169646 )
16:55 wizzyrea    hmm
16:51 jcamins     :(
16:51 wizzyrea    that doesn't work
16:51 wizzyrea    alas
16:50 wizzyrea    no, I just need to change not for loan to loanable
16:49 jcamins     Let's hope it's not the field you need to change.
16:49 wizzyrea    mmm
16:49 jcamins     I think the batch edit doesn't work for one of the item fields, unfortunately.
16:48 wizzyrea    karma for you if that works
16:48 wizzyrea    OOOO
16:48 jcamins     :)
16:48 jcamins     wizzyrea: yes, created an authorized value, and make one of the options 0.
16:47 wizzyrea    or change it to <null>
16:47 wizzyrea    ?
16:47 wizzyrea    no facility in batch item edit to unset a status like "not for loan"
16:31 jcamins     Oh, I guess I could export them all, change them, and reimport.
16:30 jcamins     Is there any way to change the 003 field in all the records in my catalog at once?
16:29 jcamins     And it'd be really nice if we supported subfield authorities.
16:27 jcamins     (subfield 'e' for personal names, for example)
16:26 jcamins     The problem I have is that the authority record contains fields that authority records shouldn't contain.
16:26 jcamins     Right.
16:26 kf          jcamins: or better a lot of authorities linked by $9 to the records
16:25 kf          jcamins: we have a lot of linked authorites
16:16 chris_n     note the operative term here is "independent"
16:15 chris_n     "It was created in the belief that the culture born of an independent Foundation brings out the best in contributors and will deliver the best software for users."
16:14 * chris_n   lowers his opinion of a foundation one more notch
16:13 * wizzyrea  wondered it too
16:13 * chris_n   wonders if he is hearing an echo or a prophecy here
16:11 jcamins     chris_n: http://www.libreoffice.org/
16:11 wizzyrea    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/openofficeorg-forsakes-oracle-forms-new-foundation-and-fork/7445
16:11 chris_n     pretty and fast is nearly as nice as pretty and good :)
16:10 wizzyrea    and faster
16:10 chris_n     libreoffice...??
16:10 wizzyrea    it's purtier
16:10 wizzyrea    ooh, they've already made some nice changes to the libreoffice interface
16:05 OpenUser    Thanks Owen....
16:03 jcamins     Hey, when y'all are reminding me to write a patch for the sysprefs, remind me to investigate the authorities linking.
16:03 owen        And the results screen shows mostly biblio-level information
16:02 owen        Collection code is generally considered to be an item-level piece of information
16:01 owen        OpenUser: No
15:54 OpenUser    Anyway.....last one for the day! Any easy way to get the collection code on the OPAC results screen?
15:51 OpenUser    Still struggling.......if I check the item out then back in again it updates something* and the two screens (results and details) now match. Weird!
15:49 rhcl        Played with it once, seemed a little slow. I though it was GPL'd, but the current license isn't immediately apparent to me from IBMs web site.
15:49 rhcl        Of course, there is also IBM's Lotus Symphony. http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.nsf/home
15:47 rhcl_away   Wild
15:47 rhcl_away   Dangerous
15:47 rhcl_away   Tough
15:47 rhcl_away   Mean
15:47 rhcl_away   Strong imagery.
15:46 owen        Tiger?
15:46 rhcl_away   KohaLibre and LibreKoha are both hard to pronounce. I like Tiger Koha much better.
15:45 wizzyrea    icon's the same >.>
15:45 wizzyrea    i'm about to install LO
15:44 rhcl_away   I'd be interested in a diff of the two codebases (OOo vs LO)
15:40 owen        A: The OpenOffice.org trademark is owned by Oracle Corporation. Our hope is that Oracle will donate this to to the Foundation, along with the other assets it holds in trust for the Community
15:40 owen        Q: And why are you calling the software "LibreOffice" instead of "OpenOffice.org"?
15:35 rhcl_away   http://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/  <-- very interesting. I wasn't aware of these recent organizational developments. I've just finished installing OxygenOffice everywhere.
15:32 kf          looking for a picture to show how many people are involved
15:32 kf          has someone a link to the git stats for 3.2? I think chris did something like that
15:17 wizzyrea    though KohaLibre reminds me uncomfortably of a chubby man in a leotard.
15:17 wizzyrea    and LibreKoha has kind of a nice ring to it ;)
15:16 wizzyrea    owen: I thought it was instructive
15:16 wizzyrea    a lot of the rest are "not for loan"
15:02 owen        Thanks for that OpenOffice link wizzyrea. It's a hard lesson, realizing you can't be beholden to any company even if their intentions seem to be good
15:01 OpenUser    So, I updated the Purchased Date, ran the sync script, rebuild the zebra index and the problem remains......
15:00 jcamins     Welcome back, logbot.
14:56 wizzyrea    A: LibreOffice is The Document Foundation's reason for existence. We do not have and will not have a commercial product which receives preferential treatment. We only have one focus - delivering the best free office suite for our users - LibreOffice.
14:56 wizzyrea    I love this
14:55 jcamins     But they own both.
14:55 jcamins     I was referring to the fact that their official website is .com.
14:55 wizzyrea    sup?
14:55 wizzyrea    kf: now I am
14:55 wizzyrea    http://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/
14:55 wizzyrea    the document foundation
14:55 jcamins     Who owns libreoffice.org?
14:52 owen        What eerily familiar story: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/openofficeorg-forsakes-oracle-forms-new-foundation-and-fork/7445
14:46 OpenUser    Actually, forget that last line!
14:46 OpenUser    But thought Marc editor in the Staff?
14:46 sekjal      your cron will take care of it
14:46 sekjal      if you do it through the staff client, no
14:46 sekjal      if you make the change with SQL, you'll need to sync
14:45 OpenUser    OK..... I shall try it with this one bib....do I need to run anything other that Zebra when I make the change?
14:45 sekjal      it's the only thing I can think of right now
14:44 sekjal      OpenUser: perhaps
14:44 OpenUser    What I mean is, if I update this BIB to a purchased date in the past, do you think this will solve the problem!?
14:44 OpenUser    OK....this DB was migrated from another system, so I can't guarentee the source. However, and this might sound silly, but does Koha look in that much detail when, i.e the MARC data tag of Purchased Date, before allowing circ rules etc......
14:43 sekjal      that doesn't make any sense, at least when thinking like a machine
14:43 sekjal      so, your MARC record is showing the item was acquired in September, but was loaned in June and due in July
14:42 sekjal      the Date Acquired value (952$d) is 2010-09-07
14:42 OpenUser    How's that?
14:41 sekjal      your system may think you lent the item before you every actually had it
14:41 kf          sorry :(
14:41 OpenUser    LOL
14:41 * kf        hides
14:41 kf          oh, that was number 8
14:41 sekjal      okay, well, there is a logical inconsistency in your item data:  your date acquired is after the onloan date.
14:41 kf          is available for me
14:41 kf          an outline of european architecture?
14:39 OpenUser    Search for "Architecture" then look at item 9
14:39 OpenUser    http://80.93.23.59
14:38 sekjal      link to OPAC?
14:38 OpenUser    OK, it's set to ON for XSLTResultsDisplay
14:38 OpenUser    Doesn't exist, 3.06?
14:38 sekjal      if not, then yes, I mean XSLTResultsDisplay
14:37 sekjal      though, that patch may not be in 3.0.6...
14:37 sekjal      OpenUser, ah, I mean OPACXSLTResultsDisplay
14:37 kf          wizzyrea: around?
14:37 OpenUser    in OPAC
14:37 OpenUser    Do you mean: XSLTResultsDisplay
14:37 OpenUser    It's set to ON
14:36 sekjal      what's your OPACResultsXSLT system preference set to?
14:35 OpenUser    Imean the OPAC
14:35 OpenUser    You can view it, if that helps!?
14:35 sekjal      I'm really not sure what could be up with this.
14:34 sekjal      and everything else updates normally... so it's not a Zebra issue
14:34 sekjal      okay, so it's not a sync issue
14:34 OpenUser    yes, exactly.
14:34 kf          not sure it will work for others like for us, so I would really like it if you could look and make suggestions
14:34 sekjal      OpenUser: and that's the same as your items.onloan value, I take it?
14:33 OpenUser    <subfield code="q">2010-07-06</subfield>
14:33 jcamins     kf++
14:33 kf          sekjal, jcamins: I have a branch with a lot of xslt work on $w links in records - I will try to get it in the public on the weekend
14:33 sekjal      OpenUser:  what is the actual value for that specific item?
14:33 sekjal      OpenUser: that's the correct mapping.
14:32 OpenUser    So it that good or bad?
14:32 jcamins     :)
14:32 kf          jcamins: you want to have some fun? :)
14:32 sekjal      yes
14:32 jcamins     Someone remind me to write a patch tonight.
14:32 OpenUser    OK.....biblioitems.marcxml 952 $q = items.onloan
14:32 jcamins     Should be "Cataloguing."
14:31 jcamins     Typo.
14:31 jcamins     Ah.
14:31 jcamins     The error is only when I go from Local Use to Cataloging.
14:31 jcamins     Okay, weird.
14:29 OpenUser    one sec
14:29 OpenUser    yeah, just twigged that's what you meant now, once sec
14:29 sekjal      I mean the biblioitem table, viewing the raw MARCXML
14:28 kf          biblioitems.marc_xml
14:28 jcamins     Hm. The "Cataloging" tab is giving me an error.
14:28 OpenUser    or do you mean the biblioitem table?
14:28 OpenUser    Sorry, I am a little confused. The bib for this record doesn't have a 952 tag. The item information (Bib>Edit>Item) shows the checked out date the same as the onloan date. Which is the last time it was checked out, but it has been checked back in since!
14:26 sekjal      so the date in the 952$q is the same as the date in items.onloan?
14:24 OpenUser    " biblioitem.marcxml's 952 field for that item".....can you help me out here? If I edit the same item the checked out date is the same as items.onloan and the type is LOANABLE
14:22 OpenUser    items.onloan says it was onload back in June.......
14:21 jcamins     I'm printing them letterpress, so it'll take a while.
14:21 jcamins     No, but we planned them.
14:20 kf          all cards printed?
14:20 kf          hi jcamins
14:20 jcamins     Morning, #koha
14:18 OpenUser    one minute.....I'll check
14:18 sekjal      what does your items.onloan value say for the item in question, and is it the same as the biblioitem.marcxml's 952 field for that item?
14:18 kf          koha someties uses the xml for display and sometimes the items table information
14:17 kf          I think if the items tabel adn the marc_xml part differ, you can see such things
14:17 OpenUser    would you expect to see this problem if I did update the items table and didn't run the script?
14:16 kf          we have used the sync script too a couple of times and it worked without problems
14:16 kf          ok, so this does not really explain your problem than
14:15 OpenUser    now that you mention it, yeah. Couple weeks ago I updated the homebranch as it's a Single Branch site and there was NULL values there. I ran the mainteaince script after though....
14:13 kf1         OpenUser: did you change something in your items table, using sql?
14:12 OpenUser    even a complete rebuild of the indexes didn't solve the problem.....
13:54 OpenUser    It's a little strange, isn't it?
13:54 sekjal      well, then it doesn't seem to be a zebra issue, which is the most common explanation for such behavior
13:54 sekjal      huh
13:53 OpenUser    Yes.
13:53 sekjal      in opac-search.pl?
13:52 OpenUser    yeah, in fact, it would update itself sooner that the 2 minutes
13:51 sekjal      do other changes reflect themselves?  If you added a title, say, and waited two minutes, would you be able to retrieve it with search?
13:49 OpenUser    yep: ps -ef > /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
13:48 sekjal      and the zebrasrv process is running?
13:47 OpenUser    yep, every 2 mins
13:47 sekjal      OpenUser: is you Zebra cronjob running, and if so, how often?
13:46 OpenUser    Any ideas where to start?
13:46 OpenUser    Afternoon....My Koha 3.06 has a problem with the Availability showing differently on the opac-search.pl compared to the opac-detail screen. The former showing an item checked out, the latter as checked in. It should be Checked In.
13:19 chris_n     wb pastebot
13:15 chris_n     HA!
13:15 owen        I seem to have. Similarly, I record everything everyone says for later reference.
13:14 * chris_n   wonders if owen has taken up logbot's habits
13:12 munin       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'koha-fbc/k_bug_5183' into to-push <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c9a4a3e488131fd12c6dbcc12bfa881e94b208f> / Merge remote branch 'koha-fbc/k_bug_5182' into to-push <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c2de68c35bc7291a0cad63c6981cd3f602c138e> / Bug 5183 Incorrect hash dereferencing syntax causes an error to be thrown when attemp... <http://git
13:10 owen        Okay that one was just crappy internet
13:05 * owen_     has words for the guy who put a "sleep" button so close to the ESC key on his keyboard
13:03 mib_sq7uz   anyone know how to stop the Collection description being truncated in the Item Details page? E.g collection  "Printable Collection A". Displays as "Printable C"
12:56 kf          hm perhaps graphics magick
12:55 chris_n     maybe a file permission problem
12:55 kf          I am checking the logs now
12:55 chris_n     I cannot account for the 500 error
12:55 kf          chris_n: no pdf creation here - so perhaps a different problem :(
12:54 chris_n     an extra slash in there after 'labels', but you get the idea
12:54 chris_n     opps
12:54 chris_n     specifically it is: Not a HASH reference at /home/cnighswonger/Repositories/koha.3.2.labels\/patroncards/create-pdf.pl line 144.
12:53 chris_n     the error is inside the corrupted pdf
12:53 kf          ok
12:53 chris_n     this is fixed by the patches I refer to above
12:52 chris_n     I'm not sure what's wrong there; when I export a patron card batch using that template on HEAD, perl throws a hash ref related error
12:51 kf          the browser tab shows busy, but I get no result until our proxy timeout
12:51 kf          can't create it now, after I click on the pdf icon... nothing happens
12:50 kf          hm
12:50 kf          ok
12:49 chris_n     yes, but open the pdf with a text editor such as vim
12:49 kf          I have not saved the file, let me redo it
12:48 kf          there the pdf can't be opened
12:48 kf          my other install had the samples fiels not installed, so I added them manually
12:48 kf          no, that's what happens in my dev install
12:48 chris_n     and that is what is inside of the corrupted pdf?
12:48 chris_n     I've not seen that one
12:47 chris_n     hmm
12:47 kf          the koha error message
12:47 chris_n     http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-fbc.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/k_bug_5183
12:47 kf          An Error has Occurred!     Error 500
12:47 chris_n     http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-fbc.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/k_bug_5182
12:47 chris_n     most likely you need the following two patches
12:47 kf          I am testing on my dev install now, I have a batch of patrons, HB-PC0001 and Test Layout, starting with 1
12:47 chris_n     kf: open the pdf with a text editor and tell me the error indicated there
12:46 kf          but I always get an error or a pdf file I can't open :(
12:45 kf          chris_n: I was trying to create patron cards from the module, using the sample template and layout
12:45 chris_n     np, still here
12:44 kf          chris_n: ah sorry
12:30 chris_n     heya kf
12:29 owen        It says a lot about PTFS's actual willingness to play nice with the community that Koha.org still promotes Harley as Koha.
12:22 kf          chris_n: around?
11:56 mib_sq7uz   just noticed that when adding multiple tags with the same subtag, e.g 650 $a, that Koha doesn't repeat the 650 tag, instead adds it to the existing one. This is a bug.....has anyone else noticed it, not in the bugs database#
11:32 kf          Error -1?
10:26 mib_sq7uz   I realise you guys are doing enough work building the app so I don';t mean to sound ungreatful
10:26 mib_sq7uz   Sorry....got caught up on something there.......slef: That is what I was hoping for, a document base which might reference that sort of thing.
10:07 slef        for the input to the xslt
10:07 slef        I think mib_sq7uz is hoping for an schema or something which would allow its definition.
10:06 magnus      mib_sq7uz: http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ might help
10:00 kf          not sure what you are searching for
10:00 kf          mib_sq7uz: you are looking at an xslt variable, it is defined somewhere in the xslt stylesheet
09:56 slef        mib_sq7uz: seriously: grep -rn available_items catalogue # or whatever bit of koha is using that.
09:55 mib_sq7uz   slef: :-)
09:54 slef        mib_sq7uz: read the code?
09:54 slef        chris: the co-op is very much the hardware supplier of last resort. Other suppliers were only willing to provide Windows black box systems.
09:53 mib_sq7uz   how can I get to the place that defines the $available_items etc?
09:52 mib_sq7uz   e.g. <xsl:for-each select="$available_items[generate-id() = generate-id(key('item-by-status-and-branch', concat(items:status, ' ', items:homebranch))[1])]">
09:51 mib_sq7uz   I am trying to figure out how Koha all hangs together.....it's difficult......does anyone know if I can get to the raw data before the stylesheet is applied?
09:47 magnus      ditto
09:45 chris       i hate hardware
09:39 slef        At least software.coop has the decency to support our own fork until it is merged back into mainline... which I really need to progress on, once this bloody hardware stops messing me about.
09:39 slef        one day I will catch up with the list, but I got tired of posting variations on "what does it say on your about page?"
09:38 magnus      yeah, saw that...
09:38 chris       another harley question on the list
09:36 magnus      ouch?
09:31 chris       *sigh*
07:51 magnus      hiya ivanc
07:51 ivanc       hi magnus
07:48 magnus      guten morgen kf & #koha
07:47 kf          morning magnus
07:41 kf          hi ivanc
07:41 ivanc       hi kf
07:40 kf          hi #koha
07:17 ivanc       good morning #koha
06:42 cait        ok, work time -bbl!
06:42 cait        :)
06:41 cait        almost finished now
06:40 cait        I got up at 6 am today to finish my record control number links ;)
06:40 cait        hi chris
06:34 chris       awesome, i was trying to keep up with reading emails and i still have 164 new ones to read
06:16 cait        xslt++
06:15 munin       cait: Karma for "xslt" has been increased 2 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of -2.
06:15 cait        @karma xslt
04:15 wasabi      brendan_l: my friend started working on hobbit furniture stuff this week...
04:08 cait        hi brendan
04:07 brendan_l   heya cait
04:07 cait        good morning #koha
03:19 brendan_l   hey amit
02:51 darling     maybe
02:51 darling     heh
02:51 brendan_l   so is "The Hobbit" ever going to start filming?
02:51 darling     like every other day for TCL-NZ peeps?
02:47 wasabi      a bouncy net day for TCL-NZ users...
01:00 chris_n     feel like a yoyo yet logbot?
00:27 * brendan_l will look for the email - when I'm back
00:27 darling     g'nite
00:26 brendan_l   time to enjoy the sun for a bit
00:26 darling     hehe
00:26 darling     i guess they do have to swap those out from time to time -- always think of it as one plane
00:26 brendan_l   but besides that we didn't like all the other stuff
00:26 darling     nice
00:25 brendan_l   we just recently went to his presidential  library nearby -  cooliest thing was the had an old air-force one airplane there
00:25 darling     I'll drop you a note and you can decide what makes sense.
00:24 darling     do you think Nicole would be available also?
00:24 darling     ok, cool - is 1:30pm here right now
00:24 brendan_l   agreed
00:24 darling     she's never liked Reagan but I'm with her on that
00:24 brendan_l   it's 5:30 pm
00:23 brendan_l   maybe we are only fours hours now
00:23 darling     night before last
00:23 brendan_l   ah how recent was that?
00:23 darling     my wife blames Reagan
00:23 darling     hate that
00:23 darling     and we just had a time change here
00:22 darling     right
00:22 brendan_l   I am about 5hours ahead of NZ on the clock but 19 hours behind by date
00:22 darling     so -- you're in western US?
00:22 brendan_l   brendan@bywatersolutions.com
00:22 brendan_l   cool
00:21 darling     I'll send you mail to explain
00:21 darling     we're wanting to probably get a phone call together tomorrow if possible
00:21 darling     brendan_l, i guess there's worse things than skype
00:20 brendan_l   bywater just has a 1800 number that we forward to cell phones
00:19 brendan_l   darling we don't have voip - we do use skype ;)
00:19 wasabi      darling: does skype count? :)
00:19 munin       brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 33.9�C (5:23 PM PDT on September 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1005.6 hPa (Falling).
00:19 brendan_l   @wunder 93117
00:18 brendan_l   at the moment we don't
00:01 darling     brendan_l,  does bywater have a voip phone system by any chance?
00:00 darling     thanjks
00:00 darling     ah
00:00 chris_n     darling: looks like he's brendan_l atm