Time Nick Message 23:16 munin chris_n: The operation succeeded. 23:16 chris_n @later tell owen disabling YUI fixed my FF print margin problems 23:15 chris_n at least the margin problem I was having with FF 23:15 * chris_n figures out his problem 23:01 brendan I'm guessing 23C at the most 21:07 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2704 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, 440 Display Issues 21:07 cait bug 2704 21:06 cait jcamins: there is a patch from owen - not pushed to head yet. but I tested it - explains my confusion :) 20:54 joetho Congratulations! 20:53 joetho congratulations? 20:53 joetho Wedding announcements? 20:45 jcamins Time to go print wedding announcements. :D 20:45 jcamins (that's 16:53, for those of you who use a 24-hour clock) 20:45 cait 10:50 pm here 20:45 cait good night jcamins 20:45 cait wow 20:44 jcamins Good night, #koha 20:44 jcamins Whoops, it's 4:53! 20:43 * jcamins blushes 20:43 cait jcamins++ :) 20:42 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5256 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Merge bibs should work from cart 20:42 jcamins cait: bug 5256 20:42 cait jcamins: thx 20:42 cait hmpf :) 20:42 cait I thought this problem was fixed 20:40 cait ok, it's just strange 20:39 cait hm 20:38 jcamins We had discussed the indicator problems, but I thought our ultimate conclusion was that no one knew what to do. 20:37 jcamins I don't think so. I had fixed the indicator with the 780/785. 20:37 cait but I can't see the traced series because of the indicator 20:37 cait I thought the indicator problem was fixed 20:37 jcamins No wonder you're confused! 20:36 cait jcamins: I am a bit confused - I am looking at traced series 20:19 jcamins Bye. 20:19 reva Thansk jcamins: for all the help today. Bye. 20:17 reva but LC lets you save authority files, so I thought that would be cool to stage and import them if there was a possibility of that. Oh well. Well time to go to Spanish class. Hasta manana:) 20:16 jcamins Right. 20:16 reva ok, so no staging and importing into authorities, hah? 20:16 jcamins Copy-and-paste can mangle letters with accents. 20:15 jcamins Type it in from scratch. 20:15 jcamins I was just clarifying that while UTF-8 is preferred, MARC-8 works fine too. 20:15 reva what do you mean rekey? I am not understnading the new term. 20:14 jcamins Yes, that's common. 20:14 reva jcamins: the libraries (the non z39.50 ones) that I looked at lets you save them only as brief or full record; no marc encoding at all in the save options:( 20:13 jcamins *much 20:13 jcamins My experience is that it's must faster to just rekey authority records. 20:13 jcamins Only bib records. 20:13 reva Ok, got it. But can I stage import a record into authorities, say from LC? Or does the stage and import do it only for bib records? 20:06 jcamins And, yes, that is essentially when you will need bulkmarcimport. When you have a huge number of records to import. You might use it if you want to take all the records off your server and load them into a different server. 20:06 jcamins reva: if you can save as MARC-8, that will work fine, too. 20:04 reva jcamins: So essentially I will use bulkmarcimport.pl when I am migrating to a version of Koha from some other ILS system? or even to a higher version of Koha from a lower one? 20:02 reva jcamins: I am back; the Manage import works fine.:) But I notice that there is no save as MARC Unicode/UTF-8 choice in the bib records in the online catalogs of libraries that participate in OCLC. So I am forced to cutting and pasting, I think, when I am in the non z39.50 environment. 19:40 wajasu i will go back to that way. 19:37 cait I think we use -a -b -z 19:36 cait -z will only reindex new and changed records from zebra_queue table 19:36 cait without -z you are rebuilding the whole index every time 19:35 cait oh 19:34 wajasu no -z 19:34 cait wajasu: are u using the -z option? 19:33 richard hi 19:33 wajasu I'm running 3.2beta. if I just run misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl every 8 minutes, should that prevent the index from being available during a search? It seems to cause 'No Result found!' at some point in the rebuild process (i.e. when zebraidx starts running). 18:56 cait cool :) 18:56 chobbs cait: that seemed to work wonders! 18:37 reva Thanks, jcamins: 18:37 reva ok, I will try it again in a bit; the index may be working slowly. 18:36 jcamins No idea, then. It works for me. 18:36 reva yes, jcamins: 18:35 cait reva: you staged and managed the records? 18:35 jcamins The index is only updated every 10 minutes. 18:34 jcamins reva: did you wait 10 minutes? 18:34 reva jcamins: I just imported the stage record into the database, but when I search it is saying no results found.? 18:34 cait en-NZ 18:34 cait translate install nz-NZ 18:34 cait s 18:34 cait but it will not translate your sys pref file 18:33 cait you can use translate in /misc/translator 18:33 chobbs cait: assume I got the standard (was a relatively modest sized tgz) 18:33 cait reva: one single file is correct, bulkmarcimport is for a lot of records, like 20000 18:32 cait dev or standard? 18:32 reva No, I mean appending all the marc records with the appropriate seperations in a single file; is that possible then? 18:32 chobbs tempted to just cp en to en_NZ and leave things the way they were :-) 18:32 cait chobbs: which type of installation do you have? 18:31 chobbs owen: I actually thought it was just 'en', which would certainly explain why the en_NZ template doesn't have the updated circ and fine template 18:30 * owen doesn't know what languages are included in the beta tarball 18:30 jcamins reva: I don't think you can import from multiple files at once. 18:30 chobbs owen: no, downloaded latest beta tgz 18:29 owen chobbs: Did you install using git? 18:29 chobbs cait: is there a script for rebuildingthose? 18:29 reva jcamins: say I have a dozen records, I have saved from different sources in MARC Unicode/UTF-8 (all having .cgi extension). How actually would I use theulkmarcimport.pl? 18:29 chobbs cait: don't think that was covered in INSTALL.ubuntu... 18:29 cait so if something is working in en and not in another language - recreate your templates 18:29 cait depending on how you update and such things... with git you always have to 18:29 chobbs oh? 18:29 cait chobbs: when you update you need to redo the templates 18:28 chobbs That column is appearing now. 18:28 jcamins reva: yes. 18:28 chobbs owen, cait: That does allow me to address my original issue, which was how to modify the Renewals allowed in circ and fine rules. Apparently that's not manageable in en_NZ? 18:27 reva jcamins: oh, we will one day. But I am doing one record for practice. So using the GUI can I take the default and hit the button saying "Apply different matching rule"? 18:27 chobbs owen: :-) 18:27 owen chobbs: I'm glad we can at least identify the problem as a known issue 18:26 jcamins reva: because we probably thought you were trying to import a lot of data. 18:25 chobbs owen: so it does sound like that bug indeed 18:25 chobbs owen: Interesting - If I add es-ES, I can now choose en 18:24 reva ok, now why was I told to use it by some people? (I mean I would have naturally looked for GUI like the Manage ... and not looked for a command line thing like bulkmarcimport, if you get what I mean.) 18:23 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5052 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Can't choose languages if all choices are sublanguages 18:23 owen chobbs: Possibly related, Bug 5052 18:23 jcamins You then go to Tools->Manage Staged Records, and click the "Import" link. 18:22 chobbs owen: that was correct 18:22 jcamins reva: you don't need to use the script at all. 18:22 chobbs owen: Interesting, if I add en_NZ, I get the selector, but if I choose en, it reverts back to en_NZ 18:22 owen chobbs: "English(en-NZ)" shows up in your preferences but it's unchecked? 18:22 reva ok, I thought as much. Oh I see. I import the staged records using Manage.. in the Tools section. But then when do I actually use the script I asked at the beginning. (I told you I was confounded.):) 18:21 chobbs owen: Got it. I don't see the language sleector at the bottom of the page, presumably because only 'en' is selected. 18:21 owen chobbs: Do you have more than one language enabled? 18:21 owen Number 2 is done via the language links at the bottom of the page 18:21 owen Number 1 is what the preferences set up 18:20 owen 2) What language has been *chosen* for the OPAC or staff client 18:20 owen chobbs: There are a couple of different things here: 1) What languages are available for use in the OPAC or staff client 18:20 jcamins But it's not what you actually want. ;) 18:20 jcamins bulkmarcimport.pl is the script you asked about way back at the beginning of our conversation. 18:20 jcamins Tools->Stage MARC Records for Import. 18:20 jcamins reva: you need the Stage MARC Records for Import utility. 18:19 chobbs 3.01.00.140 18:19 owen chobbs: Which version are you on? 18:19 chobbs owen: correct (and shouldn't that be a radio button?) 18:19 owen ...And only "English(en)" is checked? 18:18 chobbs owen: correct 18:18 owen chobbs: You're looking at the "language" system preference? 18:16 reva jcamins: or am I confounding a lot of things. owen: you are saying a lot of obvious things today:). 18:16 chobbs owen: So now how do I fix it? Since my pref is set correctly, why isn't it using en? 18:16 owen :) 18:16 reva jcamins: I found the script. So I have a staged record. Do I invoke the bulkmarcimport.pl to import it into the database? (I realize bulk means a lot). I was just going to use one to test. 18:16 chobbs owen: href="/intranet-tmpl/prog/en-NZ/lib/jquery/plugins/ui.tabs.css 18:15 chobbs owen: well, duh :-) 18:15 owen View source 18:15 chobbs owen: Is there a way for me to prove that I'm using the right template? language pref is set to 'en', but cait suggests I'm using en_NZ because of "Issue" and "Return" 18:14 owen chobbs: Every time I've wondered the same it's been because I was working with the wrong language template 18:14 chobbs owen: thx 18:14 owen No 18:13 chobbs cait: Does koha cache "compiled" pages somewhere on the server? that is, does it build pages with tempaltes and then keep static versions in a cache that might be messing me up? 18:13 jcamins reva: it is for importing MARC records. 18:12 reva ok, I see. I am a little puzzled about what bulkmarcimport does. I mean what are the situations I would use the script? 18:09 jcamins If you run it as root, it might mess things up. 18:09 jcamins In fact, you *must* run the script as your koha user. 18:08 reva ok, I got it; but would I be able to run the script without elevated permissions? 18:07 jcamins You do not need to search for the script, you know where it is. 18:07 jcamins Mizst answered your question. 18:06 jcamins reva: what command? 18:06 reva jcamins: I will try your command now with sudo in front now. 18:06 reva well, I guess running a script needs extra privileges then:). 18:04 jcamins But I don't think there is anything you will need to do as root. 18:04 jcamins Put sudo at the beginning of whatever command you want to run. 18:03 reva so how does the sudo command go? (I kind of get it gives me root privileges) 18:02 reva jcamins:I got an answer for my question from Mizst:) : This question is in fact Live CD specific. :-) The file is at this location: /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl By the way, you need to use sudo when performing the search, otherwise it can’t access certain subdirectories, hence the error messages. 18:01 cait weird 18:01 cait ok, so that seems not to be your problem 18:01 chobbs language in preference claims en 18:01 cait do you have a language chooser at the bottom of your page? 18:00 cait if you never changed your language that's perhaps not the problem 17:57 cait yep 17:57 cait Im quite sure about this 17:57 chobbs cait: You're referrign to smart-rules.pl, right? 17:57 cait strange 17:56 cait hm 17:56 chobbs cait: yes 17:56 cait you work with en templates? 17:56 chobbs cait: just upgraded to 3.2Beta, and don't see it in that screen 17:55 * cait wants to earn some cookies 17:55 cait does this help? 17:55 cait it's new in the issuing rules matrix in 3.2 in 3.0.x it was configured in the item type 17:55 jcamins Unfortunately I have more than exhausted my knowledge of the subject. 17:55 cait before it was in the item type 17:55 cait it's new in 3.2 17:55 cait ah 17:54 jcamins cait: chobbs is trying to set renewalsallowed, but there's no option for that in the issuing rules screen on his install. 17:54 cait hi reva 17:54 chobbs jcamins: Weird, I don't. Wasn't there under 3.00.05 and I just upgraded to 3.2 beta and it still isn't there. 17:54 reva hi cait::) 17:53 jcamins I don't know what it does, or how to test it, but I do see that option. 17:53 reva owen: I am not sure what you are saying. From inside Koha I know to use the z39.50; but many online catalogs do not share their bib records that way. 17:53 cait what are you searching for? 17:53 cait hi again jcamins :) 17:53 jcamins Hi cait 17:53 jcamins chobbs: I see the option to set "Renewals Allowed (count)" on that page. 17:53 cait hi #koha 17:52 chobbs jcamins: Well, everything else in issuingrules is set from the Circulation and Fines page, so I'm pretty sure it ought to be there :-) 17:51 reva jcamins: lots of university online catalog servers are not z39.50 compliant. But they do let you save their marc files for copy cataloging (via saving and importing into your library system.) 17:51 jcamins Which makes me think that maybe it's just counter-intuitive. ;) 17:51 jcamins chobbs: there is no bug reported about not being edit renewalsallowed. 17:51 chobbs jcamins: nothing poped out of bugzilla for me. 17:51 owen reva: Why not import the record into Koha and edit it there? 17:50 jcamins reva: Yes, if you want software that will read MARC files, you'll need to download it. 17:50 jcamins chobbs: we don't use the circulation module at all, but that doesn't seem right. I'm checking the bug database now. 17:50 reva Ok, I did download Unicode/Utf-8. Isn't MARC edit a software I have to install though? I have used z39.50, but this is for practicing staging and importing. 17:49 chobbs Am I right that there is no place in the staff client to set the number of renewals when creating circ and fine rules? I've been setting renewalsallowed in the issuingrules table by hand... 17:49 jcamins Downloading it onto your desktop adds a bunch of extra steps. 17:48 jcamins But I think you'd be better off using Z39.50. 17:48 jcamins You should download the records as MARC Unicode/UTF-8. 17:47 jcamins MarcEdit. 17:47 jcamins It's just a binary MARC file. 17:47 reva ok jcamins: 17:47 jcamins Follow the instructions. :) 17:47 reva and what editor would let me read a .cgi file? (i.e., if it is human readable). 17:47 jcamins Choose the file (it doesn't matter what the extension is). 17:46 jcamins reva: Tools->Stage MARC Records for Import. 17:46 reva the silence is deafening. in the LC catalog they give me the option to save it in non-Unicode/MARC-8 and MARC Unicode/UTF-8); when saved the files have .cgi extensions. So how would I import them into Koha? 17:32 reva so anyone for my question on showing "see also" names in search results in OPAC? 17:30 * brendan waves back 17:29 * druthb waves to brendan 17:23 chobbs s/2.2/3.2/ 17:23 chobbs Can someoen point out where to adjust script timeouts? I'm importing ~14,000 patrons and hitting a Gateway Timeout in 2.2 beta that I didn't get in 3.00 17:16 Braedon sionara #koha 17:16 Braedon the birds are chirping but Braedon is snoring 17:16 jcamins Morning brendan, night Braedon. 17:16 brendan night night 17:15 Braedon morning brendan from Braedon as he heads to bed in the morning 17:15 sekjal morning, brendan! 17:11 brendan morning all 17:07 Braedon basically only still up as it takes less energy to sit on my chair and stare a computer screen than to go to bed :P 17:07 reva sorry Braedon. Good night then:) 17:06 Braedon alas not the person to ask at the moment sorry - can't remember anything useful about 2, never done 1, and it is 6:15am and i really should be heading to bed 17:05 reva And I cannot find the kohaclone folder where the script is supposed to reside. 17:03 reva that was supposed to be .mrc Braedon::) 17:03 reva Basically I want to do a bulkimport. Now there are two parts to my question. 1) When I save from an OPAC, it gives me the choice to save in marc. Does it mean it will automatically save it as an .mle? 2) how do I run the bulkmarcimport.pl script? 17:01 reva Got it Braedon; I was actually thinking YOU might be able to walk me through this exercise. So if I do not have read permission eve, how could I RUN the script? 17:01 Braedon reva: or so i surmise - only have your last three messages 16:56 reva another says: find: `/root': Permission denied. 16:55 reva jcamins: it listed a lot of things that rushed past. (Even scrolling up I cannot go to where I had entered my command.) But this is a sample: find: `/proc/1348/task/1348/fd': Permission denied. 16:51 jcamins It says "search for a file with the following name." 16:50 reva ok, I will try that from the command line. What is the function of "-name" in the command there? (Just curious.) 16:50 jcamins (and where it is) 16:50 jcamins That will tell you if the script is on the CD. 16:49 jcamins find / -name "bulkmarcimport.pl" -print 16:49 jcamins You could also try running the following command: 16:49 jcamins reva: that would be a good idea. 16:48 reva jcamins: should I ask mizst about the /misc folder, etc? He told me that he may not know Koha specific things. 16:48 kf ok, time to go home - bye all! 16:45 reva ok, the second question: I would like my see also references show in OPAC from my authority files. I tried following instructions from the manual for 3.0 (from the other site). CG1508: Mizstic build is easy to install and configure.) jcamins: I still have not found the script. 16:44 kf so much work, not enough time :( 16:44 kf I am doing screenshots for a presentation right now 16:44 kf :) 16:43 kf thx 16:43 jcamins Sure. 16:43 jcamins kf: well, if you're offering cookies... ;) 16:43 jcamins CGI508: by the way, you should know that the Koha website is http://koha-community.org/ 16:43 kf jcamins: can you write an enhancement request? *offers cookies* 16:43 CGI508 oh ok ill try it 16:42 jcamins CGI508: yes, but it's much newer, and we know the password for it. 16:42 CGI508 thts a diffrent set up 16:41 * jcamins watches his bug list get longer 16:41 jcamins Merge should work with the cart, too. 16:41 reva Thanks for the obviosity pointer owen::) 16:41 jcamins Yup. That's it. 16:40 jcamins Ah-ha! 16:40 kf hi owen 16:40 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3075 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, return to search results on detail page 16:40 owen Bug 3075 16:40 kf it's not the cart, it's lists 16:40 kf hah I found it :) 16:40 jcamins kf: I know I used the merge records feature, but I can't remember how. 16:40 reva That was meant to be (LC labels this Title List). 16:39 owen The browser has a back button though :P 16:39 jcamins reva: I don't believe there is such a button, no. 16:39 reva I have couple of more questions: 1) in the OPAC, is there not a button for going back to the search results ( labels this button title list) when you are looking at bib record? 16:39 jcamins CGI508: http://mizstik.com/projects/koha-livecd/ 16:38 CGI508 so any sugestions ppl 16:38 kf jcamins: puh :) 16:37 CGI508 nd i cant find it nd need it 16:37 jcamins No, the "oh" was about the version of the vmware vm. 16:36 jcamins Let me check. 16:36 kf oh? 16:36 jcamins Oh. 16:36 kf how to start it :) 16:36 jcamins kf: ooh! something I know! What problem are you running into? 16:36 CGI508 does anyone kno the newest stadard login 16:36 kf I thought there was something with the cart 16:36 CGI508 only 3.1 16:36 kf does someone know how the merge records works? 16:36 jcamins CGI508: I don't think anyone knows, sorry. The vmware vm is very old, as I recall. 16:35 reva jcamins: got it about the script name being called the bulkmarcimport.pl. 16:34 CGI508 can some one tell me the default login plase 16:33 reva Hi joetho:. jcamins: I have /etc which is where the Koha is in the Ubuntu file system. But there are other folders in /etc (such as Perl, p5) but no misc under /etc or /Koha. Clone search brought up some results (such bomberclone, ntfsclone) but no kohaclone. 16:33 joetho kf: I guess I'll find out. thanks 16:33 CGI508 default*? 16:33 kf I think we have login data in this xml configuration fiel of the sip server, but not sure what the vendor does to authenticate 16:33 jcamins CGI508: nope, sorry. 16:33 CGI508 does anyone kno the efault web login 16:33 kf hm, perhaps I was wrong then 16:32 CGI508 ?? 16:32 kf hm 16:32 joetho kf: my sip2 vendor wants a "terminal password" 16:31 CGI508 login* 16:31 CGI508 does anyone kno the vmware loging 16:31 jcamins Also, just to be clear, the script is called bulkmarcimport.pl, not migration_tools. 16:31 kf where is your problem with that? 16:31 joetho thanks kf 16:31 joetho I meant "username - password" and my browser emoticonified it into something different. 16:31 kf but I think he uses cardnumber and password 16:30 jcamins reva: It is certainly there, because we briefly used the livecd and were able to import records. 16:30 kf I can ask him tomorrow 16:30 kf sorry, he is not here now 16:30 joetho yikes that didn't come out right on MY browser at all! 16:30 joetho hi reva, hi druthb, hi everybody else, and KF: can you ask your serverside sip2 person if your sip2 authentication uses a username:password, or just a password? 16:29 reva I will check for it. I searched for any folder named misc in my ubuntu, but it is coming up empty. 16:28 jcamins reva: check ~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools 16:28 reva Yes:) jcamins: 16:28 jcamins reva: you appear to be reva. 16:27 reva ok, I guess it did take reva as my name after all:) 16:27 reva Hi all, there was some issue with mibbit. I am reva, but it is not taking my name input. I am not able to find the misc/migration_tools script in my Koha 3.0.6 Live CD VirtualBox ll. I would like to test importing Marc records into the database. 16:24 jcamins I had wondered repeatedly how to pronounce "thb," before I realized that the "d" and "b" were separate. 16:24 druthb jcamins: You're not the first to struggle a little with it. I've had people say "doctor---huh?" 16:23 jcamins druthb: Hello. I finally realized how to pronounce your nick. :) 16:21 druthb hi. :) 16:21 kf hi druthb :) 16:01 kf joetho: but my coworker does the server side things 16:01 kf joetho: we use it 15:56 jcamins New book. :) 15:56 kf jcamins: birhtday? 15:55 munin jcamins: The operation succeeded. 15:55 jcamins @later tell nengard Congratulations! 15:55 jcamins Hm. nengard is not here. 15:55 jcamins Ooh! 15:54 kf :) 15:44 jcamins Whenever you're done, I'll be happy to look at it. 15:43 kf I hope I can show something next week 15:42 kf cool :) 15:40 jcamins Sure! 15:40 kf if you are willing to test, I will give you some example records so you can see how it works :) 15:39 kf I did some work on other editions and "sets" 15:39 kf jcamins: ok, I will take a look. perhaps display it separately from the link to the serial 15:36 mib_sq7uz Hello all......any more closer to 3.2 release?? 15:36 jcamins Which should also display $h, of course. 15:35 jcamins Maybe 780/785? 15:34 jcamins I think I just copied the code from someone else. ;) 15:33 kf jcamins: is there a reason you don't show 733$h with the information about pages and issue? 15:32 kf I think it was + and - back then 15:30 jcamins Hm. I'm getting an error. 15:28 jcamins I know we were able to, but for the life of me I can't figure out how. 15:27 jcamins How did we duplicate subfields back before owen's nice duplicating icons? 15:27 jcamins Hm. 15:21 jcamins I will be happy to take a look. :) 15:19 kf I talked to chris and he said he will create a branch for 3.4 15:18 kf jcamins: I had some hope you will look at them once I finished everything.. 15:18 kf jcamins: I have the patch ready, but I have to confess it's on a branch with a lof of other changes 15:18 kf huh? 15:15 jcamins # to the Intranet client 15:15 jcamins kf++ # for working on adding the article icon 15:12 jcamins Good morning, #koha 14:48 chris_n hi wizzyrea && kf 14:10 kf hi wizzyrea 14:09 wizzyrea mornin. 13:07 * chris_n wants a browser that works like he wants it to and wants it at least a year ago if possible :-) 13:07 * chris_n figured that such an option would overcome the utf-8 problems inherent to the pdf exporter 13:06 chris_n at any rate, it is a major hold up to using html output to print labels 13:06 chris_n and there appear to be many and loud complaints to this effect for many revisions of FF 13:05 owen I have however had FF unceremoniously crash when trying to print some pages, so I often open up *shudder* IE to print 13:05 chris_n FF seems to want to impose a 0.5 inch margin regardless of what the user desires 13:05 * owen has never tried to print something from FF which needed precision 13:05 chris_n even those in about:config have little to no effect 13:04 chris_n that is correct from my observations 13:03 owen chris_n: Are FF's page margin settings not working correctly? 13:02 * chris_n did some preliminary work on an html export option for the labels creator this weekend and was stymied by this apparent lack of ability in FF 13:01 chris_n does anyone else find the inability to absolutely control the print margins in FF very irksome? 12:41 Braedon (thank you for your patience and understanding) 12:39 Braedon (until then, he apologizes - it is nothing personal, #koha is just the first tab in his client) 12:39 larsw IRC = Insanity Rules, Cool 12:39 Braedon (hopefully he shall break this habit eventually, and perhaps even come back to do something productive) 12:38 Braedon (as some of you astute Kohanauts may have noticed, the probability of Braedon being both on IRC and slightly insane increases drastically during the small hours of the morning) 12:35 Braedon mmm, delicious crickets 12:35 owen <crickets> 12:35 owen We don't need net neutrality because we've already got the best broadband service in the entire world? Right? 12:34 Braedon /end-irrelevant-rant 12:33 Braedon cured cancer and everything 12:33 Braedon being from the future, i can report they were absolutely correct! 12:33 Braedon apparently the US doesn't need Net Neutrality, cos Whitespace will solve all their problems 12:32 larsw then I don't know what you're talking about :) 12:32 Braedon i indeed am 12:31 larsw Braedon, are you talking about the US decision to allow frequencies between analog tv channels to be used for Internet purposes? 12:31 * Braedon doesn't know if anyone knows what that is, but o well 12:30 Braedon all whitespace here 12:30 owen You get good wifi from the flying car eh? 12:30 * Braedon says hello from the FUTURE 12:29 owen Hello to all others. 12:29 owen Happy Monday to those of you for whom this Monday is new. 12:23 * chris_n finally settles back down from a weekend of bouncing around 11:46 jwagner Hi kf 11:44 kf hi jwagner 10:52 markk kf: i'm working on magnus' link :D .. having some problems on how to manually recompile Yaz but will report back to you when it's working .. thanks :D 10:25 kf markk: we use Icu indexing because of our hebrew records - it works fine, but you can find all information in magnus link 10:14 magnus hm, it does say it works, though... ;-) 10:13 slef chris: still awake? Or anyone else who can Redirect http://kohacon10.org.nz/ http://www.kohacon10.org.nz/ 10:12 munin slef: chris was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 17 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <chris> that works, we are just waiting for it to be all bundled up and released afaik 10:12 slef @seen chris 09:48 markk any idea? 09:48 markk i changed the encoding in mysql of the character_set_client/connection/result from latin1 to utf8 .. but with no lick 09:47 markk for a name in arabic .. it returne all the books 09:47 markk but when i search in the catalocue 09:46 markk everything is fine for now 09:46 markk i set up koha on ubuntu .. set it to use UTF8 and mysql as well 09:46 kf markk: what is your question? 09:43 kf ah, magnus can type faster than me :) 09:43 kf markk: look at our topic 09:43 magnus markk: as our topic says: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" ;-) 09:38 markk is there anyone who can help me with the koha system? 09:38 markk good morning all 07:56 magnus ah, way cool! 07:55 chris that works, we are just waiting for it to be all bundled up and released afaik 07:55 chris theres a patch for that now 07:54 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4310 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW, No Migration for budgets from 3.0 to 3.2 07:54 magnus i guess if bug 4310 is the main blocker, it isn't of much concern to libraries new to koha 07:47 kf cool :) 07:47 magnus cool 07:47 chris yup 07:46 magnus woohoo, chris! on 3.2? 07:46 magnus kf: goody! i have a 0 minute walk... ;-) 07:46 kf grats chris :) 07:45 kf magnus: 10 minute walk :) 07:45 chris 3 new public libraries (part of 1 system) went live today 07:45 chris yup! 07:44 magnus hey, kohacon is just 4 weeks off! 07:41 kf hi chris 07:39 chris hi all 07:38 magnus welcome back! short commute? 07:37 kf hi again magnus 07:36 magnus hi kf 07:34 kf hi ivanc :) 07:31 ivanc hi #kf 07:29 kf chris: around? 07:28 kf hi #koha 07:27 alex_a hi magnus :) 07:26 Kivutar hi all :) 07:23 davi hi 07:23 ivanc hi magnus 07:23 francharb hi magnus! 07:23 magnus hiya ivanc, alex_a, francharb, matts, Kivutar, stephane1 & davi! 07:03 ivanc good morning #koha 06:33 cait cya magnus 06:33 cait ok, time for work 06:31 cait I think that's ok, the conference site should not be better than koha ;) 06:31 cait lol 06:31 magnus oh no, look at the alphabetical list of sponsors! "The Library" is filed under T! oh no! ;-) 06:29 cait good 06:29 cait oh 06:28 magnus nope, just celebrating the new sponsor ;-) 06:28 cait uh 06:28 cait you are eating licorice practically before breakfast? 06:28 magnus kohacon has a new sponsor: http://www.kohacon10.org.nz/ 06:28 cait ah, Lakritze 06:26 cait ? 06:26 cait licorice 06:26 magnus hi cait 06:26 * magnus mmm, licorice... ;-) 06:26 cait hi magnus 06:25 cait good morning #koha 02:53 Amit heya chris