Time Nick Message 23:56 jo just mking sure left hand and right stay in sync :) 23:56 jo np 23:26 russ sorry was in a meeting 23:26 russ hey jo - just got your phone message, yes i want you to do that :-) 22:43 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.9�C (3:42 PM PDT on September 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Falling). 22:43 brendan @wunder 93117 21:45 rhcl well, I think the math works out to 60%, right? :) 21:41 chris :) 21:40 jo jo must go away now before i start getting bitchy ... 21:40 jo so if PTFS get 40% of seats for buying the domain url how many should HLT claim for starting this all off, and naming it etc etc 21:39 chris *nod* 21:38 jo I respect that honesty. 21:38 jo we now know exactly what the price is and can decide accordingly. 21:38 chris yeah its nice that its all out in the open 21:38 jo Good to read PTFS laying their cards on the table about whats required if they are to give the domain name back. 21:37 jo Hi all 21:27 chris maybe send a message on twitter 21:27 chris http://twitter.com/Mizstik 21:23 zico :( :( 21:23 zico chris: I have been searching for his email address... but... cannot find it there in his blog 21:23 chris because i have a go live on monday, so will be pretty busy myself 21:23 chris email him 21:23 chris zico: you should ask him 21:20 zico it will be really helpful for whole workshop where more than 60 participants will come from all over the country of Bangladesh 21:20 zico chris: if you know by tomorrow... can you let me know over email? my email address is: mailzico@gmail.com 21:20 cait good night all! 21:18 zico chris: that will be great! Otherwise I have to install Koha each and every 30 machines in Workshop lab 21:13 chris i would talk to this guy and ask how he does it 21:13 chris http://mizstik.com/projects/koha-livecd/ 21:13 chris yes 20:57 cait thats what I use 20:56 cait ./tmpl_process3.pl install -i /home/katrin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en -o /home/katrin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/de-DE -s /home/koha/po/de-DE-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po -r 20:55 zico cait: 3.0.6 20:54 cait zico: which version of koha? 20:42 zico ./tmpl_process3.pl install -i /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab/ -o /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab/ -s /home/mohib/Desktop/misc_translator_po_ar-Arab-i-staff-t-prog-v-3000000.po -r 20:42 zico chris: my command is this 20:41 jcamins Good night, #koha 20:35 sekjal goodnight, #koha! 20:32 chris Bbl 20:32 chris Ok my stop 20:31 chris how are you trying to install it? 20:30 jcamins :D 20:30 cait better bribe everyone with cookies, just for the case they will get on the board at some time 20:30 cait hm you are right 20:29 jcamins cait: you mean I have to choose between wanting cookies and not wanting to be on another board? 20:29 zico I have downloaded from http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=misc/translator/po;hb=9c68c22a0b108e04b2362769655ecbfeb33a22dc 20:28 zico but.. it`s not working 20:28 zico nah! I have downloaded PO file from git too 20:28 * cait tries to bribe the board members with cookies 20:28 richard heh 20:28 * chris gives richard 20% 20:27 richard heya chris 20:27 chris Hi richard 20:26 richard hi 20:14 owen That's it for me. See y'all later 20:14 zico Thanks owen 20:14 chris Thanks owen 20:13 owen http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/3.0.x 20:13 chris But look in the git repo 20:13 chris I'm on my phone too hard to look 20:13 zico chris: what is the address please? 20:12 zico chris: sorry owen... it would be chris 20:12 chris Do my messages show up as owen or something? 20:12 reva Ok owen: I said anyone else?:) 20:11 reva Ok, anyone else? Just curious; because it always shows "a" for Unicode, why there is a drop down for it in the Leader Builder? 20:11 owen Why is everyone talking to me? 20:11 zico owen: what`s the address please? 20:10 owen reva: No idea. 20:09 reva owen: Is it automatically set to the code "a" for unicode, because though there is a drop down choice and it "seems" like MARC-8 is selected, it shows "a" for Unicode in the Leader? 20:09 chris In the 3.0.x branch 20:08 chris Look in git 20:08 chris Only if someone edits it in the web interface 20:08 zico I have a big workshop in which I have to show demonestration on Koha 20:08 chris It doesn't log if someone uploads a new one 20:08 zico is it possible to get the correct PO arabic file by tomorrow? 20:08 chris But haven't tested it 20:07 chris Yeah I removed spam from it 20:07 chris Some ppl edit with text editors and aren't careful 20:07 zico As it mentioned there... you have already "chris" reviewed that! :) 20:06 chris Ill try to have a look when I get to work 20:06 chris Someone might have uploaded a corrupt version 20:06 chris Its probably corrupt 20:05 zico what`s wrong? 20:05 zico it shows me the error that ... "CORRUPTED PO FILE or not even PO file" 20:05 zico but.. when I go to add that PO file in my system 20:05 zico I am downloading the PO file from http://translate.koha.org/ar/intranet3_0/ 20:04 chris http://www.urbandictionary.com/iphone/#define?term=yeah%20nah 20:04 zico I am trying to enable Arabic font in my Staff 20:03 zico I am having a weird problem with PO file 20:03 zico hi 20:03 chris I think the answer is in nz speak 'yeah .... naw' 20:02 reva Thanks owen: I thought as much because who uses 8 bit coding anymore? 20:01 owen jcamins: So they're saying, "Okay, if you want 'em here's what you have to do." 20:01 owen Those are actions we've asked them to take jcamins 20:01 chris Unicode reva 20:00 owen jcamins: Because it's the only conditions under which they'll release the Koha trademark and koha.org domain to a third party 20:00 reva Good afternoon, was wondering should I set the type of control (Leader/09) to MARC-8 or UCS/Univode? Thanks. 20:00 owen It really is galling that their intellectual property is worth more than all our years of work. 20:00 jcamins I'm thinking about asking that LibLime clarify their stance on *why* this is necessary. 19:59 chris I wonder if anyone is gonna comment. I don't think ill bother 19:58 rhcl chanting...SPI~~~SPI~~~SPI~~~SPI~~~ 19:57 chris Heh 19:56 chris_n or is that describing the thickness of such members? 19:56 cait 46443 lines added - yay :) 19:56 jcamins Okay, I'm jealous of chris_n, too... my board memberships don't come with the power to endure the meetings they require, either. 19:56 chris_n hence the name 'board' 19:55 chris_n and endure boring meetings 19:55 jcamins I'm jealous. ;) 19:55 jcamins Gee, my board memberships only give me the power to produce paperwork. 19:55 owen It's not a typo, it's time-saving efficiency! 19:55 cait lol 19:54 * gmcharlt uses his awesome power to will the 'wthdrawn' typo directly out of existence 19:54 chris_n bye alan 19:54 * owen looks busy 19:54 owen Cheese it it's gmcharlt ! 19:53 chris_n work code mules, work!! 19:53 * chris_n can hear the whip cracking now 19:53 gmcharlt *thud* 19:53 owen We'd be too busy ruling with iron fists 19:53 chris_n lol 19:52 jcamins chris_n: the problem with that is then paul_p, chris, owen, gmcharlt, and hdl wouldn't have any time to spend on Koha. 19:52 cait the more I think about a fair way .to build a board, the more I think the foundation thing is not a good idea 19:51 * chris_n thinks the board percentages ought to be based on first on good standing and second on % of commits... ;-) 19:50 chris bb from on the bus, 3g permitting 19:50 chris ok bus time 19:50 chris heh 19:48 jcamins :D 19:48 jcamins 2:16:24! 19:47 * collum wants 1.29% of the seats on the board of directors. :) And needs to stop doing home repairs and start sending more patches to koha. 19:47 * cait grumbles a bit 19:47 cait I really have to find someone to do these organisational things for me... so I find finally some time to write patches 19:46 cait could be more patches... 19:46 cait 300 is a nice number 19:46 munin owen: Error: "should" is not a valid command. 19:46 owen munin should wish us all happy anniversaries on the anniversaries of our first commits 19:45 * chris_n feels young still 19:45 chris_n 980 days, 3:01:46 19:44 cait ok, 12 waiting and more to come :) 19:44 cait I know, I think one is missing, because I send it as "root" 19:44 * chris was guessing about 10 19:44 chris ohloh tracks master 19:43 cait hm only 10? :) 19:43 cait ohloh knows about 22 commits... 19:43 chris and 22 in total (that have been pushed theres about 10 more to go) 19:43 chris so you made a commit on 15 different days 19:42 cait ah 19:42 chris active days, 15 19:42 chris thats the time between your first commit and the latest commit of yours in master 19:42 cait and is this an anniversary? :) 19:42 cait what did I do on these 300 days? 19:42 chris http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/authors.html 19:42 chris for you cait 19:41 chris 300 days, 22:21:51 19:41 cait 2453 days? 19:40 owen Took me a minute to count the scratch marks on the side of my wall 19:40 chris 2003-10-31 thats a while agon now 19:39 chris hehe 19:38 owen 2453 days, 23:27:55! 19:38 * chris gets sucked into reading stats again 19:36 chris time of the first commit, to my last commit 19:36 jcamins :) 19:36 * jcamins was kind of wondering about the precision 19:36 * chris <3 gitstats 19:36 chris 3933 days, 2:45:22 later 19:35 chris and thats why im still here 19:35 chris what goes in, is totally transparent 19:35 chris theres no hiding decisons 19:34 cait owen: good point 19:33 chris is everyone can see 19:33 chris the nice thing about the way dev works 19:33 owen Is someone supposed to be paid to be RM full time? Who gives up their regular job for it unless it's permanent? 19:32 owen What we have are "sponsored" RMs, and I'm not sure we could do it any other way 19:32 chris parttime at least 19:32 chris_n everybody can talk at once and be understood... most of the time anyway ;-) 19:32 chris fwiw im being paid to be RM 19:32 chris_n wonderful thing... irc 19:31 * chris_n agrees that a paid rm might help 19:31 jcamins I started typing in response to "all you need for that is a bank account really." ;) 19:31 chris i dont think we wll have the money to do it in the near future 19:31 chris its a nice idea 19:31 chris_n spi is in the us 19:31 chris gets you that too :) 19:31 jcamins Well, in the US you also need a tax ID. 19:31 chris_n probably some sort of escrow account 19:31 * chris simplifies 19:30 chris which is what sofware in the public interest etc get you 19:30 chris all you need for that is a bank account really 19:29 cait which makes it difficult I think 19:29 chris_n good point chris 19:29 cait to make him independent everybody should have the same vote in this foundation 19:29 chris dont need an active foundation, with any say in who that rm is 19:29 chris pooling donations to pay for that would be good, could still do that with spi of softwarefreedomconservancy 19:28 schuster someone - don't remember who - talked about having a foundation so that part of its function would be to pay an independent RM for the project and that would be their full time job. 19:27 chris Kohala for french 19:27 chris KUDOS could get money for US libraries 19:27 chris point 5 19:27 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Reasons_Not_To_Form_One 19:26 chris yeah 19:26 cait but can't you get funds with a local user group like kudos perhaps too? without 'governing' the project? 19:26 owen (and koha.org, etc.) 19:26 owen It's their condition for donating the Koha trademark 19:26 cait not really, I think some people talked about getting funds for things? 19:25 jcamins Did we ever get an explanation of why LL thinks there should be a foundation? 19:25 * chris stops 19:25 chris sorry, im talking to much 19:24 chris we work those things out without a board telling us 19:24 chris but on the things that matter, what goes in a release, who is release manager, etc 19:24 chris the license being an exception :) 19:23 chris usually we come to consensus fairly easily 19:23 chris so we dont have to worry about them, and then just get on with workng on koha, 19:23 cait we are not so many people that this is over complicated, perhaps sometimes make votes on the mailing lists or like we did when we voted for hlt 19:23 jcamins Also, just so no one says they weren't warned, executive secretaries and executive directors are expensive! 19:22 chris i would just like a place to put things, like the tm and domain name 19:22 chris im with you 19:22 chris exactly 19:22 cait why are some people so eager to have one? can't we just act as a democracy like we do in meetings? 19:22 * chris is being sarcastic 19:22 chris if you just buy something, that gives you eminently more say than the people who thought it up, and specced it, and paid for it 19:21 cait chris: I don't hink we need an foundation 19:21 chris no intellectual property dont you know 19:21 jcamins (with all due respect to the HLT board... I think they must all be Saints) 19:21 chris they dont count cait 19:20 cait and what about contributing libraries? 19:20 chris jcamins++ 19:20 jcamins As someone who values his sanity, I would prefer not to have an active foundation. Boards cause headaches. 19:20 chris thats easily solved 19:20 chris_n there are enough real ones to contend with 19:19 chris the problem that exists, is that one company has property that the community sees as shared property 19:19 chris_n imaginary_problems-- 19:19 chris i really think its trying to solve a problem that doesnt exist 19:19 jcamins As a kind-of-Koha-vendor, I would share the concerns of your vendor hat. ;) 19:19 owen And new permanent spots for all new vendors! 19:18 chris and thats ridiculous :) 19:18 chris </vendor_hat_off> 19:18 chris so we need permanent spots for all 28 19:18 chris any vendor not represented by the board has a huge disadvantage 19:17 chris and putting on my vendor hat 19:17 chris </rant> 19:16 chris and anything that is going to be involved in 'managing' rather than just a place to store stuff safely does not interest me at all 19:15 chris i read it as an intention to replace the existing roles, with board elected ones, and wrest control of the project from the community 19:14 chris of intentions, and thats good 19:14 chris but i do think it is sending a clear signal 19:14 chris i mean we have to buyin before it has any say.. and at any time we can opt out 19:13 chris the gpl2+ allows us to just do our own thing anyway 19:13 * owen thinks we should all add our of proviso's demanding permanent representation on the board owing to our significant contributions 19:13 chris certainly any board that has permanent rep for anyone, im not interested in 19:12 chris is that no one has to listen to the board anyway 19:12 chris well the thing to remember, so we dont get too upset 19:12 chris please feel free to add to the reasons not to form one, if you have any 19:12 owen Imagine if the original Liblime had gotten permanent representation on a Koha board? 19:11 chris i should listen to him more 19:11 chris you know, slef said that self selecting permanent things were a reason why foundations are bad 19:11 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Reasons_Not_To_Form_One 19:10 chris_n unbridled_government-- 19:10 brendan well monsters are cool sometime (but that's only in books and movies) 19:10 * chris lightens the tone 19:10 chris monsters-- 19:10 brendan board-- 19:09 * chris_n thinks the board would be an ever-growing monstrosity 19:09 chris_n yes, that would present a problem if all major contributors required a permanent, 20% share of board positions 19:08 owen "[Liblime] would expect permanent representation on its board of directors. Initially, LibLime would request 40 percent of the positions in the board of directors" 19:08 chris_n http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Forming_a_Koha_Foundation#United_States 19:07 cait chris: what begins? 19:06 chris s/i/it/ 19:05 chris and so i begins 18:20 munin chris_n: The operation succeeded. 18:20 chris_n @later tell hdl my mails to patches@... seem to be landing in jail lately; could you look in on the problem? tnx 17:53 chris_n wizzyrea: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-fbc.git;a=commit;h=b8d5a69e4e145f6684507b62267759f1ea465e80 17:33 reva Hi again, I have a record which only has a 245 (Title proper) and an author added entry (710 corporate author) in it. But it is showing as if it is the main author. It shows like this: Establishment and management of a national standards body. by International Organization for Standardization . Why is it not showing as related author lable? 16:47 reva also, what would be an ideal partition size for the Debian? We will be creating maybe a 1000-1500 records, so I know our catalog part of it is going to be rather small. Though we do not have too much free room on our C drive currently, we can add to make room for Debian/Koha 16:39 reva Ok, I will configure enable Debian to accept network clients. Though I am too far away from that yet.:0 16:35 owen Yes, but you'll have to be sure to configure your Debian machine to accept connections from your other machines 16:33 reva Ok, so I assume that it does not matter the my peer-group LAN stations are running XP, I take it only the machine in which Koha is installed it has to be running Debian? 16:31 owen I don't think it would be too taxing but I'm not an expert. Two users is a very small number! 16:30 reva I meant if the answer to my LAST question, not first, of course, owen: 16:29 reva owen: If the answer to my first question is "yes they can use it even if they are on a station running XP", I have a further question: Our admin workstation has: 2.53 Ghz processor and 1.98 RAM; would I be taxing if there are two simultaneous staff client users on two workstations? 16:28 * owen grumbles about his flaky internet this week 16:25 reva owen: so basically, if I have the Koha running on my 'admin" console (which acts as my server), others would be able to access the staff client or OPAC on their workstations. But if I am running my XP on the console, the other workstations will not have access to Koha. Understood. The other workstations are running XP, but would not be an issue? 16:17 owen The server won't be running if you're booted into Windows 16:16 owen reva: Others won't be able to access Koha if the server isn't running 15:59 ivanc see you #koha 15:58 reva What I mean larsw: is we will be either booting into XP or Debian/Koha. In such a situation, how would I give access to staff client on another workstation which is running XP? 15:56 reva larsw: thanks. We are on a peer-group network, so no server. And we will be using one of the workstations as the "admin" console. Debian/Koha will be residing as a "dual boot", along with the windows XP OS on the machine. So questions: the other workstations are windows Xp. How would I give them access to Koha? 15:38 larsw however, the full CD and DVD images are good for people to get if they are bandwidth-starved and can get them without using the scarce bandwidth (e.g., via snailmail) 15:38 kf travelling tomorrow - have a nice weekend all :) 15:38 larsw reva, either Debian ISO image is fine; in fact, the smaller images (business card and netinst) are usually recommended, so you don't have to install a lot of stuff you won't need: the full ISO image probalby has a lot of packages you won't be installing, especially on a server 15:32 reva Ok, because I was the eager beaver and started downloading the regular CD image. Thanks. 15:31 owen I think either one is fine 15:30 reva owen: do I have to install Debian from the business card version CD? Or can I download a full CD iso, burn it on a CD and install it? (we do have pretty stable connection, but frequently there is a lot of congestion.) 15:04 reva Yea; jacamins gave me the page just day before yesterday. So I will read through that first before asking questions. 15:04 owen reva: That document is intended to be a start-to-finish guide. You'll probably find things you need to ask questions about, but it will give you most of what you need 15:03 reva I am not sure owen: Because I had the idea to install the 3.2 when we go into production only recently; the Live CD 3.0.6 has been a serious contender. But now I will go through the page you just gave. 15:01 owen reva have you looked at this? http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian;h=e90942b833bef28f6d62ca4d7b6782de8d3c59d7;hb=HEAD 15:00 reva Thanks owen: I have downloaded the Debian (http://ftp.utexas.edu/debian-cd/5.0.6/i386/iso-cd/debian-506-i386-CD-1.iso); I hope that is the only one I need as there were quite a few Cds in Utexas mirror. How about the Apache HTTP server; which version? 14:58 owen http://download.koha-community.org/koha-3.02.00-beta.tar.gz 14:58 reva ok. got it. 14:58 reva owen: so I just download the plain tar.gz from the beta 3.2; just confirming my understanding of what you said. 14:55 owen reva: The one I said 14:55 reva thanks owen: but I find 4 choices under the Beta. (ex: there is gz.sig; and gz.md.asc.) Which one? 14:55 joetho anybody in here have any experience migrating the ILS "Concourse" (vendor=Book Systems) into Koha? 14:54 owen Hi joetho 14:54 joetho good morning, 14:53 owen koha-3.02.00-beta.tar.gz if you want the beta release of 3.2 14:52 reva hi all, good morning. I have a question as to which tar.gz of the Koha 3.2 I should download from the community download page? 14:41 owen mirbolt: You could check out this thread from the koha-devel archive: http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2009-March/009306.html 14:34 owen cabillman: For what it's worth, if I grab that record via z39.50 in my 3.0.6 test installation I see the same problem: no description 14:34 cabillman Thanks for your help 14:33 cabillman I will open the bug and attach the patch explaining everything 14:32 cabillman I also can't figure out how to duplicate it. It only seems to be some of our biblios but I can't find a consistent pattern. 14:30 cabillman I had to change both the call to normalizedOCLCN and normalized upc 14:28 owen As far as I can remember normalized_oclc is only used by Syndetics enhanced content 14:27 cabillman and pass that to the template 14:27 cabillman i save the result in a variable first 14:27 cabillman instead of doing template->param( normalized_oclc => GetNormalizedOCLCNumber($record,$marcflavour) ) 14:26 cabillman Sounds like a plan. I'm not exactly sure why this patch changes the behavior though 14:25 owen Yes you can do that too 14:24 cabillman Should i email koha-patches as well? 14:24 owen http://bugs.koha-community.org 14:23 cabillman nope. Same biblio but one is the stock 3.0 opac-detail.pl 14:23 owen cabillman: If you think this is a consistent bug (one that affects all 3.0.x users), you can file a bug, create a patch for your changes, and attach your patch to the bug report 14:23 mirbolt hi there, can anyone tell me roughly what the min sys requirements are for a koha installation on debian lenny for a collection of about 100,000 bib records? 14:23 owen Oh I see, you swapped the file out. I thought you were showing me two simultaneous examples. 14:22 cabillman it just has the changes i made to opac-detail.pl 14:21 owen cabillman what do you mean by "patched?" 14:20 owen Not at all! 14:20 cabillman I hope you don't mind that I used them 14:20 * owen recognizes those tabs :) 14:19 cabillman is patched 14:19 cabillman https://library.pennmanor.net/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=103230 14:19 cabillman that one is broken 14:19 cabillman https://library.pennmanor.net/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail-orig.pl?biblionumber=103230 14:17 cabillman I think I have the original file, let me check quick 14:16 cabillman I wish :) I have been looking at it for a few hours 14:16 owen That was fast :) 14:15 cabillman yes, but I think I have a patch that fixed the problem 14:14 owen cabillman: Is your catalog online for us to see examples? 14:13 cabillman for 3.0 .x 14:13 cabillman Hello, is anyone aware of any open bugs regarding the 520 fields not showing up in the description section of opac-detail.pl? It only happens on some items. 14:10 CGI811 hi 13:26 CGI632 hi everyone 13:01 ivanc hi Nate, kf 12:52 kf :) 12:51 Nate and everyone else :) 12:51 Nate and jwagner and ivanc 12:51 Nate Hi Owen and kf 12:44 kf hi owen, jwagner and druthb .. and everybody else .) 12:42 ivanc hi owen 12:39 jwagner Hi owen 12:37 owen Hello #koha 10:34 kmkale hi Amit 10:34 Amit hi kmkale 07:52 kmkale hi hdl 07:52 hdl hi kmkale 07:51 kmkale hi all 07:20 ivanc hi #koha 07:20 yourasifk bib data is imported but the holding doesn't can any body help me in this regard 07:19 yourasifk im trying to import serials record with holding inoformation 07:19 yourasifk hope some one can solve my problem 07:18 yourasifk Salam to all 06:45 kf good morning #koha 03:26 chris hiya Amit 03:26 Amit heya chris 02:51 chris :) 02:50 schuster thanks for the chat... Off to grade those Graduate papers - wanna be librarians! 02:49 schuster But as you know our pipe is BIG... 02:49 schuster Ah... See here I don't think international - we just use it, but... I don't deal much with international stuff... Once it leaves Plano ISD I don't understand what happens! 02:48 chris here, its stupid expensive for international bandwidth 02:48 chris you can get that cheap 02:48 schuster Yeah Europe would be great if KohaLA would be able to step up... 02:48 chris schuster: here it is, just because of hte bandwidth required 02:48 chris since magnus and paul, and slef and cait etc are flying this far this time round 02:48 schuster Well not really if you have the right tools at your disposal and the institutions behind it.... 02:47 chris give everyone a turn 02:47 chris maybe one kohacon in europe then back the us the year after 02:47 chris yeah virtual is expensive 02:47 schuster We had talked about doing a virtual conference here in the fall, but we just couldn't get that together with what we are trying to do with KUDOS. 02:46 schuster Well - maybe we push KUDOS and KohaCon11 together... The annual thing for international is hard unless we can do some things and have decent internet at a hotel/conference center and use is 10-7 one day and 8-5 another or something and do more video conference type stuff. 02:45 chris if you can shouldertap anyone 02:44 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon2011_Proposals 02:44 schuster OK I have to grade some graduate student papers tonight so better get busy. I knew you would be on now so thought I would ask for your help which you are always so gratious to provide with the right answers! 02:44 chris someone needs to pitch for kohacon11 02:44 chris cool 02:42 schuster Will do - we are thinking early May but are still trying to get our ducks in a row organizationally. 02:42 chris cool, let me know 02:41 schuster KUDOS is kicking around the idea of a spring meeting in the US.. NOT a KohaCon but a KUDOS conference, but we would welcome international presentations etc.. if we can get it going... 02:41 chris http://www.coveritlive.com/index2.php?option=com_altcaster&task=viewaltcast&altcast_code=4340084075&width=470&height=550 02:41 chris yeah it should 02:41 robin Just so long as it works with identi.ca, otherwise it doesn't count :) 02:40 schuster Not that I'm biased or anything to a facility we have here in Plano... ;) 02:40 schuster We did put it up during the breaks though on the first day so people knew it was there and could follow it. the venue we had was awsome for this type of stuff. 02:39 chris to at least get a nice feel for whats going on 02:39 chris but coveritlive allows ppl not there 02:39 schuster Cool - as long as Liz can put links to the conference up so people can get to it easily on koha-community.org. 02:39 robin oh good :) 02:39 chris we didnt do that 02:39 chris no 02:39 robin You don't mean having one of those displays running behind the presenters, do you? They're a terrible idea. 02:37 chris the nice thing is it archives it all away for ever too 02:37 schuster it is fun... Especially if your kids are any good at it and luckily my kids come by it naturally with no help from me... your kids will be at an advantage as you understand the rules and would probably be able to teach them something! 02:37 chris but for #kohacon10 instead of just following me 02:37 chris http://tweetnest.bigballofwax.co.nz/ 02:37 chris yeah im thinking that or this 02:36 schuster I think Liz put it together on the fly for KohaCon09 - and I didn't even know it was there! 02:36 schuster Are you all going to try and do something like this: http://www.coveritlive.com - for KohaCon10? 02:35 chris yeah, wont be long til im doing the same :) 02:34 schuster Sorry to missing coming to NZ... Just couldn't swing that on my own and my wife would have hung me out to dry with the 2 boys during school... one is playing soccer and the other football and we are going non stop almost every night. 02:33 schuster OK yes I did you are awesome as always thanks. 02:27 chris did you see that schuster ? 02:26 chris something useful to do, would be to shift that to the new wiki, we were in the process when someone turned the old one off 02:25 ryanb006 Ok, thanks robin and schuster! I'm going to leave it alone for the night and get a fresh look at it tomorrow. Thanks again! 02:25 chris schuster: http://librarypolice.com/wiki.koha.org/conferenceprogram.html 02:24 robin not sure, I guess that's all changed since 3.0 02:24 ryanb006 I mean "all item types" 02:24 ryanb006 Ok, I see at the bottom of that screen a section about holds, but it is just no holds allowed, allowed from any library, or allowed from home library for particular item types. I can't get it to set for "any item type". 02:20 robin but that may have changed since 3.0, I'm not sure. 02:20 robin ryanb006: in koha 3.2, it's Admin->Item circulation and fines rules 02:19 ryanb006 Robin: Where do I check that the holds allowed is > 0? 02:16 ryanb006 Subfield 1 is blank...so not marked lost... 02:16 schuster best I could do sorry. 02:15 ryanb006 Ok, I'll check one of the items. 02:14 schuster You may want to edit an item record and see what is in the subfield 1 - if it is blank then all should be working. If there is something selected there... that is why you are getting that error. 02:14 schuster hmmm did you have anything in the subfield one of each of the 952 fields when you loaded it? 02:11 ryanb006 Robin: I will check that. Schuster: I tried both an item on the shelf and and item checked out, and neither one works. Both say "lost or missing". 02:11 schuster do you want them to be able to place holds if the item is on the shelf? 02:11 schuster ryanb006 - check an item out and see if you can place a hold on it. 02:10 robin ryanb006: check to ensure you have circulation rules that let them place a number of holds greater than zero. 02:10 schuster Just checking to see if it existed anywhere else! 02:09 ryanb006 Hi, I've just migrated my library to Koha 3.00.06, and it's working great except patrons can't place holds on any materials in the OPAC. When they try to place a hold, it says "Sorry, none of these items can be placed on hold." and under the "place hold on a specific copy" it says "Unavailable (lost or missing)". None of our items are marked missing, and RequestOnOpac is turned on. Any idea what is going on? 02:09 schuster all of those links are gone. 02:08 schuster chris - sorry to bother you but do you happen to have a copy of the schedule from KohaCon09? Due to some company things and shared google docs and a wiki move 01:40 wasabi Genji: http://search.cpan.org/dist/CGI.pm/lib/CGI.pm#GENERATING_A_REDIRECTION_HEADER 00:50 wasabi Genji: http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=edithelp.pl;h=d1975ba6707c9b61910a3da4de38546222d2caff;hb=HEAD#l86 00:49 wasabi a redirect 00:33 Genji How do i do: if session param libraries_set not set, goto opac-chooselibraries.pl else goto opac-main.pl, upon login? 00:31 Genji Hiya all!