Time  Nick      Message
23:51 Braedon   my current password is REALLY hard to input on an android keyboard
23:51 Braedon   haha, my problem with that is that i rely on the num row quite a lot(as evidenced in the password fragment that started this)
23:50 robin     yeah. This has become a problem when trying to enter passwords on my phone.
23:48 Braedon   but just start typing it regardless, and the sequence just comes out, even if i can't remember the first character
23:48 Braedon   anywhere else, i wouldn't have a clue
23:48 Braedon   i can remeber a sequence seemingly indefnitely IF i am currently staring at somewhere where i would input it
23:47 Braedon   yip, same
23:46 robin     Once they've set, I can't forget them. I have a shell acct I use about twice a year, and I couldn't tell you the password, but it comes naturally after typing 'ssh <hostname>'
23:44 Braedon   but for my higher level password used for bank and a few other things, i jsut don't use it often enough
23:43 Braedon   i remember the keystroke sequence
23:43 Braedon   yeah, once i have come up with something for my main password, memorising it isn't usually a problem
23:41 robin     My usual trick for shell passwords is to write it on my hand, and use it a lot the first day or two. By the time it's faded, I've memorised it.
23:41 Braedon   in the middle of one atm, so i actually need two passwords :P
23:41 Braedon   usually QUITE a long overlap...
23:40 Braedon   Whenever my standard password gets compromised(not often thankfully, but always have the occasional slip-up, like this time where my IRC client took focus on my second screen while i was sodoing), i have to change a bunch of accounts fast, and usually don't have the time to make up a new one. So, i use my bank password, meaning to then upgrade that one...
23:38 robin     yeah, so do I. Although there's a password generator that I've been meaning to use. It takes the URL and your password and hashes them, that hash being the real password.
23:38 Braedon   except my bank account theoretically
23:37 Braedon   XKCD really is right. I use the same password for almost everything
23:37 Braedon   i had to come up with an abreviation of my standard password at the time
23:37 Braedon   no, wait, it was account at UoA
23:36 Braedon   possibly studylink or something like that
23:36 robin     yeah, that's just stupid
23:36 Braedon   it was really annoying
23:36 Braedon   there was something a while ago that i had to use that wanted one between 6 and 10 characters or something
23:35 Braedon   yeah
23:35 robin     Not the software that I'm giving out passwords on. It's bad design to have a max length on passwords.
23:35 Braedon   wouldn't a lot of things not allow a password that long robin?
23:34 rhcl      Hey, that one's not too bad. I should have kept that and used it myself.
23:33 rhcl      Give out something like: 'I eat snakes!"
23:33 robin     So now I sometimes use "changethispasswordbecauseitisreallylongandapaintotype"
23:32 robin     'changeme' is my usual default when I give passwords to people. Then I find that they haven't changed it two weeks later.
23:32 richard   friday is always popular
23:32 rhcl      'changeme'
23:32 robin     Braedon: I recommend 'password1'
23:02 Braedon   any ideas for a password anyone? :P
23:02 * Braedon probably should change that password wherever it is used regardless...
22:57 Braedon   damn empathy popping up
22:56 * Braedon is thankful it was only Part of his password
22:56 * robin   logs into all of Braedon's accounts with that password :)
22:26 Braedon   hehe, wrong window
22:26 Braedon   1ngR0ut3
22:07 munin     brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.8�C (3:08 PM PDT on September 14, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling).
22:07 brendan_l @wunder 93117
21:20 cait      bye all :)
21:20 cait      bed time
21:05 chris     :)
21:05 jcamins   Nothing except a computer and a motivational Koha poster?
21:04 chris     i have the padded rooms ready
21:04 cait      chris: we are really crazy, better prepare for it :)
21:03 cait      can't wait to meet magnus :)
20:56 magnus    and so to bed
20:56 magnus    just wait until you find out how crazy we really are!
20:50 chris     :)
20:49 chris     you people are crazy
20:49 cait      coffee with a lot of milk is perhaps drinkable
20:39 magnus    coffee? nah... ;-)
20:39 chris     magnus: its only a short walk from the bus stop to work, i stopped to get a flat white too .. you will need to learn about those in NZ :)
20:38 chris     it sure richard
20:38 cait      wb chris
20:37 richard   nice spring day out there
20:37 richard   hey chris
20:37 chris     hi richard
20:37 richard   hi
20:36 magnus    that was quick
20:35 chris     back
20:28 cait      yep, was thinking the same right now
20:28 cait      lol
20:28 magnus    i guess we can choose what hat to wear as we see fit... ;-)
20:28 cait      :)
20:28 magnus    me too
20:28 cait      magnus: but I am a librarian too
20:21 chris     Ok my stop, cyas
20:21 * cait    tries to remember :)
20:21 cait      oh, good
20:20 chris     Thanks
20:20 chris     Will do
20:19 larsw     chris, I'll need to think about that and I'm about asleep already, so I'll answer later -- could you e-mail me so I don't forget?
20:19 magnus    :-)
20:19 magnus    ;-)
20:19 chris     :)
20:19 magnus    cait: you are a developer, remember!
20:19 chris     You're a developer now
20:18 chris     Cait: I'm trying to spare you the boring stuff
20:18 owen      Gotta go, see y'all tomorrow
20:18 jcamins   There are 940ish .pl files.
20:18 owen      And translations maybe?
20:18 jcamins   Ah. Right.
20:18 chris     Its the images, css etc too jcamins
20:18 * cait    does not want to only do boring things at kohacon ;)
20:17 jcamins   I must have a recursive symlink.
20:17 cait      only the librarians?
20:17 jcamins   That doesn't seem right to me.
20:17 jcamins   Wow. There are 11k files in Koha.
20:17 chris     jcamins hundreds
20:17 chris     And are you in the uk now?
20:17 jcamins   I wonder how many files there are to go through.
20:16 chris     Larsw: what do you reckon a rule of thumb should be for needing to update the copyroght?
20:16 jcamins   You'd think we librarians would be good at that. :)
20:16 larsw     :)
20:15 magnus    chris: good plan! ;-)
20:15 chris     :)
20:15 chris     And then ask them to fix the copyrights
20:15 chris     We teach the librarians how to do research with git
20:14 chris     Is the first day of the dev conference
20:14 chris     One thing I hope to do
20:14 chris     Yay larsw!
20:13 larsw     owen, as long as copyright status is otherwise clear, it's not a problem, but it's easier to be clear by putting the copyright statement and license info in each file, even though it is ugly
20:13 chris     Mainpage.pl has no copyright statement .. so we have stuff to do
20:13 chris     Owen: not sure ill read up, lars or slef would know
20:12 chris     If you make big changes then I think a copyright line by itself is fine, ie if I rewrote a script id just put copyright chris cormack 2010
20:11 owen      chris: In terms of Debian, is it a problem that our template files have no copyright statement?
20:11 owen      # Parts Copyright 2009 Foundations Bible College.
20:11 owen      # Copyright 2006 Katipo Communications.
20:10 chris     Owen: there are some parts copyright bits in there a grep should find them
20:09 jcamins   Other than that it's the distribution I use to run Koha. ;)
20:09 chris     And its a good rule too
20:09 jcamins   Okay. I don't know much about Debian.
20:09 chris     Yes
20:09 chris     They are wrong 90%
20:09 jcamins   There has to be an accurate copyright statement in each file?
20:08 chris     Cos of the copright statements
20:08 chris     Um
20:08 jcamins   Why can't we go into Debian?
20:08 chris     And ill ask colin to as well
20:08 chris     In fact I will for 3.4
20:07 owen      Should a "parts copyright" be noted differently than the original copyright?
20:07 chris     If ppl want I can point it out on patches and ask for resubmit
20:07 chris     But we can't go into debian proper until we fix it
20:06 chris     Its all in the git logs
20:06 chris     Have to go back and fix the files is one of our jobs
20:05 chris     Seems reasonable
20:05 chris     But yes you change 3 or 4 lines then parts copyright you
20:05 chris     Its a judgement call no hard and fast rules
20:05 cait      I think most people don't touch the copyright statements, perhaps we should agree on something and add it to the wiki
20:04 jcamins   Does that mean everyone who touches a file needs to add their name to the copyright statement?
20:03 cait      chris: for every change or only significant changes?
20:03 owen      chris: ?
20:03 cait      owen: this is a good question
20:03 chris     Parts copyright owen
20:03 chris     We should definitely add to the copyright
20:03 owen      Add another line after the existing copyright line?
20:02 chris     Yes owen
20:00 owen      Should we be doing that?
20:00 owen      Is there a standard practice for updating a script's copyright statement if you edit it?
19:52 owen      Got it. The files needed to be in the adm group. Must be an Ubuntu thing.
19:42 * chris   really goes this time
19:42 * cait    sends an emergency package with a lot of cookies
19:42 jcamins   cait: it is. And very sad.
19:41 chris     owen: is it writing to the main error log?
19:41 cait      jcamins: that seems unusual for you - no cookies around :)
19:40 owen      No, didn't work.
19:40 chris     but now i have to catch my bus
19:40 chris     owen: lemme know if that works
19:38 jcamins   I may have to bake something quick tonight.
19:38 jcamins   I actually have no baked goods at all right now.
19:38 cait      have cookies..
19:38 cait      but if you take cookies we can trade
19:38 chris     start it again, and apache2 should create log files with the permissions it can write to
19:37 jcamins   Ah. Thank you!
19:37 cait      I feel with you
19:37 chris     mv the log files out of the way
19:37 cait      an offer
19:37 jcamins   cait: Was that an offer or a request?
19:37 chris     stop apache2
19:37 chris     owen: that'd do it
19:37 cait      jcamins: cookie?
19:37 owen      chris: It was working the other day, and then I emptied out the log files (not using logrotate obviously)
19:37 chris     2 birds one stone and all that
19:37 chris     an fix any warnings as well
19:36 chris     you check it has use warnings;
19:36 chris     its a nice habit that if you are touching a script
19:36 chris     is where you can log fixes under
19:36 chris     bug2505
19:36 * jcamins laughs hysterically at the idea of having nothing else to do
19:36 chris     jcamins: thatd be great
19:36 chris     owen: what version of apache are you running, one of them decides to just put stuff in the main log ... also .. are you running logrotate? is it writing to the .1 logs instead?
19:36 jcamins   Well, when I have nothing else to do, perhaps I'll fix some of them.
19:35 chris     harmless in the greater scheme of things, but noisy logs mean real errors get missed
19:34 chris     and then some ppl have left warns in ... both of which should be fix
19:34 chris     not errors, but things like uninitialized variable blah blah
19:34 jcamins   Ah.
19:34 chris     jcamins: warns
19:33 chris     look in the main apache error log
19:33 jcamins   Why is opac-error so massive?
19:33 * owen    is trying to figure out why errors aren't getting recorded to the log anymore
19:33 chris     there is a config script in misc
19:33 jcamins   *for dev installations from from my Koha dev-install-ing script
19:33 chris     yup, you should, or huge files here we come :)
19:32 jcamins   Ooh, I guess I should figure out how to get logrotate to work happily with the logs for my dev install script.
19:32 chris     640 root:adm on my ubuntu box
19:32 chris     yours are probably where koha wanted to put them?
19:31 chris     i put my apache logs in /var/log/apache2 (koha included) and let logrotate take care of them
19:31 jcamins   But I'm on Debian.
19:31 jcamins   644 root:root
19:31 chris     on debian, its probably gonna be owned by root, and readable only by root
19:30 chris     different distributions set them at different level
19:29 owen      What should koha-error_log's permissions be?
19:22 jwagner   Yep, that's it :-)
19:21 owen      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb-uw_uTdUI
19:18 jwagner   I cherish a copy of that.
19:18 jwagner   The really priceless version was a parody done on some Comedy Channel show (I think) in the '80s, called the Ronnie Horror Picture Show.  With El Presidente in the Dr. Frank-n-furter role, complete with costume.....
19:15 chris     http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU1009/S00078/rocky-icon-gets-residency.htm
19:13 jcamins   That part I knew. ;)
19:12 jwagner   Let's Do The Time Warp Again!
19:12 jcamins   I certainly don't know. I never saw the film, and only saw the show once.
19:12 jwagner   Put your hands on your hips (or was it knees?)
19:10 jcamins   And then a step to the left? :)
19:07 jwagner   It's just a jump to the right!
19:07 jcamins   A quarter twist and a hop to the left every third step?
19:06 owen      It's hard to do the silly walk just right
19:05 * jwagner is tired now. It's hard pretending to be owen :-)
18:28 chris_n   yeah, its never too late for food imho :)
18:25 rhcl      not too late, go for it :)
18:21 * chris_n finds he somehow missed out on the lunch thing
18:15 ivanc     hi #koha
16:58 * owen    hops on the lunch train
16:55 cait      :)
16:54 jwag_mtg  Mind you, I do make some rather strongly-worded suggestions, at times....
16:52 jwag_mtg  owen, ugly is in the eye of the beholder.  The client wants it, the client gets it :-)
16:52 owen      jwagner: Don't forget to impart Rule 1: Don't make it ugly!
16:50 cait      :)
16:50 jwagner   Have to go teach some of our people how to do OPAC customizations :-)
16:50 * jwagner is channeling the spirit of owen. Ommmmmm.
16:50 rhcl      I got coffee, need tacos
16:50 jcamins   :)
16:50 jcamins   (courgette for our British compatriots)
16:50 brendan   coffee time
16:49 cait      dinner time
16:49 sekjal    rhcl: indeed!
16:49 rhcl      speaking of which, time for lunch
16:49 cait      mmh zucchini
16:48 jcamins   And you'll end up with way too much zucchini in the summer.
16:48 rhcl      if you charge in produce you'll go broke (hungry?) in the winter
16:47 brendan   excellent ideas - I may implement that
16:47 sekjal    drinks woudl be good, too
16:47 rhcl      a way to recoup some of that excessive allowance money
16:47 sekjal    rhcl: I think I'll set up another currency, and charge folks in fresh produce
16:47 jcamins   If you can change the units, you could charge in rounds of drinks. This encourages A) socialization and B) returning books on time.
16:46 owen      It could be a disciplinary exercise for kids: check books out to them for bedtime, then charge fines if you have to pick them up off the floor the next day
16:46 rhcl      rhcl wonders if sekjal will charge fines
16:44 jcamins   brendan: Far be it from me to disagree with you! In fact, that's what I go around telling everyone! :D
16:44 sekjal    set up a personal consortium
16:44 sekjal    and hopefully get my friends on board as well
16:44 sekjal    yeah, I'm going to set on up to track my books, movies, music and such
16:44 brendan   jcamins - everyone needs a home koha install
16:43 jcamins   sekjal: your home Koha instance?
16:42 sekjal    jcamins: well, in the future, my days off my revolve around getting my home Koha instance up and running, so it would make sense for me to be in chat then
16:37 jcamins_a sekjal: I'm not quite sure what a day off is, but I'm sure you shouldn't be spending it on #koha. ;)
16:35 cait      i will try to comment on the rfc's too - but it's been a crazy week :(
16:35 cait      sekjal: I know the feeling ;)
16:34 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3094 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Public Virtual Shelf can be Modified / Deleted by any non-logged in patron
16:34 owen      I think Bug 3094 is fixed. Can anyone confirm?
16:34 sekjal    :)
16:34 sekjal    but for some reason I still find myself in chat...
16:33 sekjal    today's my day off
16:33 sekjal    chris_n: awesome, thanks!  I'll read it tomorrow
16:33 chris_n   sekjal: just commented up the RFC on hourly loans
16:28 cait      ok, I will add me ass cc to the bug and write a reminder to myself
16:27 owen      Thanks cait. No rush, but it looks like it could be marked fixed if it's working.
16:26 cait      owen: I have a lot, but can't test today
16:19 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3187 normal, P5, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, pagination in authority search doesn't work
16:19 owen      Anyone have enough authority records to test Bug 3187?
16:10 reva      owen: I think may be creating new duplicate bib record for the serial and recording the compressed holdings in its item record and adding notes about the existence of two bib records may work.
16:07 reva      owen: ok, I will first do what you told me and figure out a way to enter retrospective holdings. If you know anyone with serials issues as mine who solved it, I would appreciate knowing in the future. Thanks.
16:05 owen      I don't know.
16:05 reva      owen: I mean, for example v.10 (1970) - v.12 (1972), v.15 (1975); how would I show them?
16:04 owen      I don't know about that, sorry :(
16:03 reva      owen: ok, got that about creating item record when receiving; thanks. What about compressed holdings from before? where would they go?
16:03 owen      ...when you create the subscription
16:03 owen      Yes. You have to choose "create an item record when receiving this serial"
16:01 reva      Ok, I will try that. So I can search for the bib record I just created from inside the "new Subscription" and build the pattern and it will attach a new item record for the bib every time I receive the issue and record it, correct?
15:58 owen      You create a bib record first in the regular bib editor. Then you attach a subscription to it in Serials. Then you receive issues in Serials and attach items at that time.
15:56 reva      owen: That is what I meant when I said "I see only a way to enter new subscription" with all the expected frequency, etc; but no way to input a bib record and create holdings in it.
15:55 owen      From the staff client home page, click "Serials"
15:54 reva      owen: please explain, where I would find this file.
15:52 owen      reva: I mean using the serials module. /cgi-bin/koha/serials/serials-home.pl
15:51 reva      owen: 3.0.6 does not have a serial module in Admin choices, except to enter subscriptions and go from there. But if you are meaning enter the title as serial (both using the serial framework and explicitly coding it in the leader), I have done that; there does not seem to be any way to enter holdings except in 952 $h and my version does not repeat that subfield, though I have enabled it.
15:41 owen      http://git.biblibre.com/ not working anymore?
15:41 munin     brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.1�C (8:41 AM PDT on September 14, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Rising).
15:41 brendan   @wunder 93117
15:30 owen      I can hear the klaxons from here!
15:29 chris_n   owen: after a brief test, running perltidy on tmpl files is *not* recommended for sanity's sake
15:28 owen      reva: Use the serials module? Unfortunately that's not easy if you're migrating existing holdings
15:27 reva      hi again, sorry kf: I stepped out. So what other ways are there to display holdings for serials in 3.0.6?
15:15 chris_n   I'm not sure what would happen if one ran perltidy on a template file
15:14 kf        leavning now - bye all
15:13 chris_n   owen: the latter
15:13 ivanc     tnks kf
15:13 owen      chris_n: Am I to understand that you can perltidy a TMPL file? Or were you just making changes to the TMPL file based on the perltidy rules?
15:12 kf        invanc: ask me tomorrow about RSWK and authorities - I can tell you some things
15:01 kf        I think the repeated subfidles in item are perhaps problematic
14:51 reva      Hi my friends, I have a quick question; when I turn on repeat for 952 $h (serial enumeration and chronology) so that  various irregular numbering for the serials can be handled more elegantly, it does not work. (running Koha 3.0.6). Any ideas why?
14:44 ivanc     any idea for using Schlagwortkatalog   in text searching? whit the rule explain in the RSWK?
14:31 jcamins   Aww. They are, of course (hot balloons, and books). :D
14:31 jcamins   Today is awesome book day!
14:31 wizzyrea  you also get kiddo proclaiming "HOT BALLOONS ARE AWESOME"
14:31 jcamins   Time to head to work.
14:31 jcamins   :)
14:30 wizzyrea  >.> don't get me wrong, it's glorious ;)
14:30 wizzyrea  "please use your fork for eating, not for stabbing the cat"
14:30 jcamins   wizzyrea: you make it all sound so appealing.
14:30 wizzyrea  now it's all "please don't put your peas in your water" and "it would be better if you didn't stick the drumstick up your nose"
14:29 wizzyrea  idk, even when I was in "can't ever get comfortable" it was still a luxury to be in bed, not doing anything.
14:29 brendan   that's so true
14:29 owen      brendan can sleep at least. His wife must be going into "can't ever get comfortable" mode
14:28 wizzyrea  :D
14:28 wizzyrea  yes, in the "still luxuriating in the fact you can sleep in" mode
14:19 brendan   I'm in the hurry up and wait mode
14:19 brendan   it's getting closer
14:16 wizzyrea  well not *that* close I guess but... never mind. lol.
14:15 wizzyrea  ooh getting close!
14:15 brendan   december
14:07 wizzyrea  I forget when does the wee one arrive?
14:06 brendan   :)
14:06 wizzyrea  ooh, brendan is up early
14:06 * druthb  waves to brendan
14:06 druthb    hi, kf.  :D
14:06 brendan   morning
14:05 wizzyrea  :)
14:05 wizzyrea  ooh, hi kf
14:05 kf        hi jcamins and wizzyrea :) and druthb! :)
13:57 druthb    :D
13:56 wizzyrea  how is everybody this morning?
13:56 * druthb  waves to wizzyrea.
13:56 wizzyrea  good morning peeps
12:51 jcamins   Good morning, #koha
12:34 druthb    jwagner++ # for taking it.
12:33 jwagner   Wow, that was fast turnaround on the pic!
12:31 druthb    Other non-work stuff is more fun.  Go check my new facebook profile pic...Kind Of A Big Deal.
12:31 owen      It's always easier to fix things for people who will appreciate it
12:30 druthb    fixing things for wizzyrea and schuster a lot.  That's "fun," of a sort, because they're two of my favorite people.    Takes your fun where you can get it.
12:29 owen      druthb: Working on anything fun lately?
12:29 druthb    :D  hi, owen!
12:29 owen      Hi druthb
12:28 druthb    mornin, #koha.
12:19 jwagner   Hi Amit
12:19 Amit      Hi Jwagner
12:18 ivanc     hi owen
12:17 owen      Hi #koha
11:59 mgarces   my boss asked me to install this
11:58 mgarces   =)
11:58 magnus    mgarces. http://translate.koha.org/
11:57 chris_n   mgarces: yes
11:57 mgarces   ??
11:57 mgarces   is koha avaylable in other languages
11:51 mgarces   hello everyone
11:50 jwagner   Hi magnus
11:47 nengard   morning
11:47 magnus    good morning jwagner & nengard!
10:29 chris     they are looked after by the debian security team
10:29 chris     its always better to have packages
10:28 ivanc     cris: but still running :)
10:27 ivanc     cris:  true, but my libxml was from cpan, I thought it was better to have updated libraries
10:24 chris     apt-get install libgbdm-dev
10:23 chris     if you really have to install from source, rather than from packages, then you need the gdbm development libraries
10:21 ivanc     cris: because a version error with libxml
10:16 chris     and apt-get idzebra too
10:15 chris     apt-get install libxml-libxslt-perl
10:14 chris     why are you cpanning it on, not apt-get?
10:14 chris     libxslt?
10:10 ivanc     could help someone?
10:10 ivanc     /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.3.0.0
10:10 ivanc     and
10:10 ivanc     /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.3.0.0
10:10 ivanc     solved with the creation of 2  simbolic link
10:10 ivanc     the lib is already present : perl -V | grep libs
10:10 ivanc     with this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdbm
10:10 ivanc     I've found a issue in zebra installer,  cpan XML::LibXLT fail
10:10 ivanc     with Debian lenny on the git installation
09:41 kf        hm, working on documentation about borrower notification - my messaging table looks strange again :(
08:46 chris     :)
08:46 kf        I will try to talk to others too and I have no problem with testing a lot of patches :)
08:45 chris     ill ask him tomorrow at work
08:45 chris     but robin at catalyst might be able to take over
08:45 kf        we will keep you busy :)
08:44 kf        yep
08:44 chris     once 3.2 is released ill be busy with 3.4 stuff
08:44 kf        thx chris :)
08:44 chris     until 3.2 is released, im happy to sign off on yours
08:44 kf        hm. I think I am only a bit worried about finding people to sign off on mine.
08:40 chris     but its nice to build up, ill sign yours, you sign mine type deals :)
08:40 chris     new ones of course can just send to the list
08:40 chris     yes, but building those relationships makes the project stronger
08:39 chris     yup, but much more chance it will get pushed up
08:39 kf        finding people to sign-off
08:39 kf        I think it's good to do that, but more work for the developer too
08:37 chris     hopefully we get to the point where its pretty much only signed off patches hitting the list
08:37 kf        yeah, makes more sense and less work too
08:36 kf        ok
08:36 chris     for ones like that in the future, you could send direct to me, and ill send the signed off one to the list, save doubling up on the list (ie if its one ive said ill sign off on)
08:35 chris     signed off and resent
08:32 chris     patch looks good
08:32 chris     ah cool
08:31 kf        chris: I had problems with git commit --amend - but solved it :)
08:29 chris     kf: am now
08:28 munin     kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.2�C (10:31 AM CEST on September 14, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Steady).
08:28 kf        @wunder Konstanz
08:25 davi      hi magnus
08:23 magnus    hi davi
08:23 magnus    hi ivanc
08:23 ivanc     hi magnus
07:41 magnus    hiya kf and #koha
07:41 kf        hi magnus :)
07:39 munin     kf: Karma for "git" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8.
07:39 kf        @karma git
07:39 kf        git++
07:32 kf        hi ivanc :)
07:29 ivanc     guten morgen kf
07:21 kf        chris: aroundß
07:10 kf        good mornign #koha
06:58 ivanc     hi #koha
03:29 chris     pretty much everything on that page is worth looking through (the admin one)
03:29 chris     no worries
03:28 yhager    found it. sorry
03:27 yhager    I am looking at at the admin home page..
03:26 yhager    but I can't find the item type page link
03:26 chris     there is a pdf there for 3.0
03:26 chris     and for the rest http://koha-community.org/documentation/
03:25 chris     that itemtype link is the same
03:25 yhager    chris: thanks! I downloaded the stable release though (3.0)
03:23 chris     http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/index.php?ch=x2963#AEN3051
03:22 chris     2 secs, ill find you a link
03:22 chris     you probably should read the manual
03:22 yhager    chris: yes, I got that. but the option list there is empty. How can I define item types?
03:21 Amit      heya brendan
03:21 brendan_l heya amit
03:19 chris     its probably telling you you havent put an itemtype in 942c
03:18 yhager    Trying to add my first record, I get an error about item 942 not filled - item type - what is this?
03:13 Amit      heya mason
03:13 wasabi    morning amit
03:13 Amit      heya chris