Time Nick Message 23:51 Braedon my current password is REALLY hard to input on an android keyboard 23:51 Braedon haha, my problem with that is that i rely on the num row quite a lot(as evidenced in the password fragment that started this) 23:50 robin yeah. This has become a problem when trying to enter passwords on my phone. 23:48 Braedon but just start typing it regardless, and the sequence just comes out, even if i can't remember the first character 23:48 Braedon anywhere else, i wouldn't have a clue 23:48 Braedon i can remeber a sequence seemingly indefnitely IF i am currently staring at somewhere where i would input it 23:47 Braedon yip, same 23:46 robin Once they've set, I can't forget them. I have a shell acct I use about twice a year, and I couldn't tell you the password, but it comes naturally after typing 'ssh <hostname>' 23:44 Braedon but for my higher level password used for bank and a few other things, i jsut don't use it often enough 23:43 Braedon i remember the keystroke sequence 23:43 Braedon yeah, once i have come up with something for my main password, memorising it isn't usually a problem 23:41 robin My usual trick for shell passwords is to write it on my hand, and use it a lot the first day or two. By the time it's faded, I've memorised it. 23:41 Braedon in the middle of one atm, so i actually need two passwords :P 23:41 Braedon usually QUITE a long overlap... 23:40 Braedon Whenever my standard password gets compromised(not often thankfully, but always have the occasional slip-up, like this time where my IRC client took focus on my second screen while i was sodoing), i have to change a bunch of accounts fast, and usually don't have the time to make up a new one. So, i use my bank password, meaning to then upgrade that one... 23:38 robin yeah, so do I. Although there's a password generator that I've been meaning to use. It takes the URL and your password and hashes them, that hash being the real password. 23:38 Braedon except my bank account theoretically 23:37 Braedon XKCD really is right. I use the same password for almost everything 23:37 Braedon i had to come up with an abreviation of my standard password at the time 23:37 Braedon no, wait, it was account at UoA 23:36 Braedon possibly studylink or something like that 23:36 robin yeah, that's just stupid 23:36 Braedon it was really annoying 23:36 Braedon there was something a while ago that i had to use that wanted one between 6 and 10 characters or something 23:35 Braedon yeah 23:35 robin Not the software that I'm giving out passwords on. It's bad design to have a max length on passwords. 23:35 Braedon wouldn't a lot of things not allow a password that long robin? 23:34 rhcl Hey, that one's not too bad. I should have kept that and used it myself. 23:33 rhcl Give out something like: 'I eat snakes!" 23:33 robin So now I sometimes use "changethispasswordbecauseitisreallylongandapaintotype" 23:32 robin 'changeme' is my usual default when I give passwords to people. Then I find that they haven't changed it two weeks later. 23:32 richard friday is always popular 23:32 rhcl 'changeme' 23:32 robin Braedon: I recommend 'password1' 23:02 Braedon any ideas for a password anyone? :P 23:02 * Braedon probably should change that password wherever it is used regardless... 22:57 Braedon damn empathy popping up 22:56 * Braedon is thankful it was only Part of his password 22:56 * robin logs into all of Braedon's accounts with that password :) 22:26 Braedon hehe, wrong window 22:26 Braedon 1ngR0ut3 22:07 munin brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.8�C (3:08 PM PDT on September 14, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling). 22:07 brendan_l @wunder 93117 21:20 cait bye all :) 21:20 cait bed time 21:05 chris :) 21:05 jcamins Nothing except a computer and a motivational Koha poster? 21:04 chris i have the padded rooms ready 21:04 cait chris: we are really crazy, better prepare for it :) 21:03 cait can't wait to meet magnus :) 20:56 magnus and so to bed 20:56 magnus just wait until you find out how crazy we really are! 20:50 chris :) 20:49 chris you people are crazy 20:49 cait coffee with a lot of milk is perhaps drinkable 20:39 magnus coffee? nah... ;-) 20:39 chris magnus: its only a short walk from the bus stop to work, i stopped to get a flat white too .. you will need to learn about those in NZ :) 20:38 chris it sure richard 20:38 cait wb chris 20:37 richard nice spring day out there 20:37 richard hey chris 20:37 chris hi richard 20:37 richard hi 20:36 magnus that was quick 20:35 chris back 20:28 cait yep, was thinking the same right now 20:28 cait lol 20:28 magnus i guess we can choose what hat to wear as we see fit... ;-) 20:28 cait :) 20:28 magnus me too 20:28 cait magnus: but I am a librarian too 20:21 chris Ok my stop, cyas 20:21 * cait tries to remember :) 20:21 cait oh, good 20:20 chris Thanks 20:20 chris Will do 20:19 larsw chris, I'll need to think about that and I'm about asleep already, so I'll answer later -- could you e-mail me so I don't forget? 20:19 magnus :-) 20:19 magnus ;-) 20:19 chris :) 20:19 magnus cait: you are a developer, remember! 20:19 chris You're a developer now 20:18 chris Cait: I'm trying to spare you the boring stuff 20:18 owen Gotta go, see y'all tomorrow 20:18 jcamins There are 940ish .pl files. 20:18 owen And translations maybe? 20:18 jcamins Ah. Right. 20:18 chris Its the images, css etc too jcamins 20:18 * cait does not want to only do boring things at kohacon ;) 20:17 jcamins I must have a recursive symlink. 20:17 cait only the librarians? 20:17 jcamins That doesn't seem right to me. 20:17 jcamins Wow. There are 11k files in Koha. 20:17 chris jcamins hundreds 20:17 chris And are you in the uk now? 20:17 jcamins I wonder how many files there are to go through. 20:16 chris Larsw: what do you reckon a rule of thumb should be for needing to update the copyroght? 20:16 jcamins You'd think we librarians would be good at that. :) 20:16 larsw :) 20:15 magnus chris: good plan! ;-) 20:15 chris :) 20:15 chris And then ask them to fix the copyrights 20:15 chris We teach the librarians how to do research with git 20:14 chris Is the first day of the dev conference 20:14 chris One thing I hope to do 20:14 chris Yay larsw! 20:13 larsw owen, as long as copyright status is otherwise clear, it's not a problem, but it's easier to be clear by putting the copyright statement and license info in each file, even though it is ugly 20:13 chris Mainpage.pl has no copyright statement .. so we have stuff to do 20:13 chris Owen: not sure ill read up, lars or slef would know 20:12 chris If you make big changes then I think a copyright line by itself is fine, ie if I rewrote a script id just put copyright chris cormack 2010 20:11 owen chris: In terms of Debian, is it a problem that our template files have no copyright statement? 20:11 owen # Parts Copyright 2009 Foundations Bible College. 20:11 owen # Copyright 2006 Katipo Communications. 20:10 chris Owen: there are some parts copyright bits in there a grep should find them 20:09 jcamins Other than that it's the distribution I use to run Koha. ;) 20:09 chris And its a good rule too 20:09 jcamins Okay. I don't know much about Debian. 20:09 chris Yes 20:09 chris They are wrong 90% 20:09 jcamins There has to be an accurate copyright statement in each file? 20:08 chris Cos of the copright statements 20:08 chris Um 20:08 jcamins Why can't we go into Debian? 20:08 chris And ill ask colin to as well 20:08 chris In fact I will for 3.4 20:07 owen Should a "parts copyright" be noted differently than the original copyright? 20:07 chris If ppl want I can point it out on patches and ask for resubmit 20:07 chris But we can't go into debian proper until we fix it 20:06 chris Its all in the git logs 20:06 chris Have to go back and fix the files is one of our jobs 20:05 chris Seems reasonable 20:05 chris But yes you change 3 or 4 lines then parts copyright you 20:05 chris Its a judgement call no hard and fast rules 20:05 cait I think most people don't touch the copyright statements, perhaps we should agree on something and add it to the wiki 20:04 jcamins Does that mean everyone who touches a file needs to add their name to the copyright statement? 20:03 cait chris: for every change or only significant changes? 20:03 owen chris: ? 20:03 cait owen: this is a good question 20:03 chris Parts copyright owen 20:03 chris We should definitely add to the copyright 20:03 owen Add another line after the existing copyright line? 20:02 chris Yes owen 20:00 owen Should we be doing that? 20:00 owen Is there a standard practice for updating a script's copyright statement if you edit it? 19:52 owen Got it. The files needed to be in the adm group. Must be an Ubuntu thing. 19:42 * chris really goes this time 19:42 * cait sends an emergency package with a lot of cookies 19:42 jcamins cait: it is. And very sad. 19:41 chris owen: is it writing to the main error log? 19:41 cait jcamins: that seems unusual for you - no cookies around :) 19:40 owen No, didn't work. 19:40 chris but now i have to catch my bus 19:40 chris owen: lemme know if that works 19:38 jcamins I may have to bake something quick tonight. 19:38 jcamins I actually have no baked goods at all right now. 19:38 cait have cookies.. 19:38 cait but if you take cookies we can trade 19:38 chris start it again, and apache2 should create log files with the permissions it can write to 19:37 jcamins Ah. Thank you! 19:37 cait I feel with you 19:37 chris mv the log files out of the way 19:37 cait an offer 19:37 jcamins cait: Was that an offer or a request? 19:37 chris stop apache2 19:37 chris owen: that'd do it 19:37 cait jcamins: cookie? 19:37 owen chris: It was working the other day, and then I emptied out the log files (not using logrotate obviously) 19:37 chris 2 birds one stone and all that 19:37 chris an fix any warnings as well 19:36 chris you check it has use warnings; 19:36 chris its a nice habit that if you are touching a script 19:36 chris is where you can log fixes under 19:36 chris bug2505 19:36 * jcamins laughs hysterically at the idea of having nothing else to do 19:36 chris jcamins: thatd be great 19:36 chris owen: what version of apache are you running, one of them decides to just put stuff in the main log ... also .. are you running logrotate? is it writing to the .1 logs instead? 19:36 jcamins Well, when I have nothing else to do, perhaps I'll fix some of them. 19:35 chris harmless in the greater scheme of things, but noisy logs mean real errors get missed 19:34 chris and then some ppl have left warns in ... both of which should be fix 19:34 chris not errors, but things like uninitialized variable blah blah 19:34 jcamins Ah. 19:34 chris jcamins: warns 19:33 chris look in the main apache error log 19:33 jcamins Why is opac-error so massive? 19:33 * owen is trying to figure out why errors aren't getting recorded to the log anymore 19:33 chris there is a config script in misc 19:33 jcamins *for dev installations from from my Koha dev-install-ing script 19:33 chris yup, you should, or huge files here we come :) 19:32 jcamins Ooh, I guess I should figure out how to get logrotate to work happily with the logs for my dev install script. 19:32 chris 640 root:adm on my ubuntu box 19:32 chris yours are probably where koha wanted to put them? 19:31 chris i put my apache logs in /var/log/apache2 (koha included) and let logrotate take care of them 19:31 jcamins But I'm on Debian. 19:31 jcamins 644 root:root 19:31 chris on debian, its probably gonna be owned by root, and readable only by root 19:30 chris different distributions set them at different level 19:29 owen What should koha-error_log's permissions be? 19:22 jwagner Yep, that's it :-) 19:21 owen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb-uw_uTdUI 19:18 jwagner I cherish a copy of that. 19:18 jwagner The really priceless version was a parody done on some Comedy Channel show (I think) in the '80s, called the Ronnie Horror Picture Show. With El Presidente in the Dr. Frank-n-furter role, complete with costume..... 19:15 chris http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU1009/S00078/rocky-icon-gets-residency.htm 19:13 jcamins That part I knew. ;) 19:12 jwagner Let's Do The Time Warp Again! 19:12 jcamins I certainly don't know. I never saw the film, and only saw the show once. 19:12 jwagner Put your hands on your hips (or was it knees?) 19:10 jcamins And then a step to the left? :) 19:07 jwagner It's just a jump to the right! 19:07 jcamins A quarter twist and a hop to the left every third step? 19:06 owen It's hard to do the silly walk just right 19:05 * jwagner is tired now. It's hard pretending to be owen :-) 18:28 chris_n yeah, its never too late for food imho :) 18:25 rhcl not too late, go for it :) 18:21 * chris_n finds he somehow missed out on the lunch thing 18:15 ivanc hi #koha 16:58 * owen hops on the lunch train 16:55 cait :) 16:54 jwag_mtg Mind you, I do make some rather strongly-worded suggestions, at times.... 16:52 jwag_mtg owen, ugly is in the eye of the beholder. The client wants it, the client gets it :-) 16:52 owen jwagner: Don't forget to impart Rule 1: Don't make it ugly! 16:50 cait :) 16:50 jwagner Have to go teach some of our people how to do OPAC customizations :-) 16:50 * jwagner is channeling the spirit of owen. Ommmmmm. 16:50 rhcl I got coffee, need tacos 16:50 jcamins :) 16:50 jcamins (courgette for our British compatriots) 16:50 brendan coffee time 16:49 cait dinner time 16:49 sekjal rhcl: indeed! 16:49 rhcl speaking of which, time for lunch 16:49 cait mmh zucchini 16:48 jcamins And you'll end up with way too much zucchini in the summer. 16:48 rhcl if you charge in produce you'll go broke (hungry?) in the winter 16:47 brendan excellent ideas - I may implement that 16:47 sekjal drinks woudl be good, too 16:47 rhcl a way to recoup some of that excessive allowance money 16:47 sekjal rhcl: I think I'll set up another currency, and charge folks in fresh produce 16:47 jcamins If you can change the units, you could charge in rounds of drinks. This encourages A) socialization and B) returning books on time. 16:46 owen It could be a disciplinary exercise for kids: check books out to them for bedtime, then charge fines if you have to pick them up off the floor the next day 16:46 rhcl rhcl wonders if sekjal will charge fines 16:44 jcamins brendan: Far be it from me to disagree with you! In fact, that's what I go around telling everyone! :D 16:44 sekjal set up a personal consortium 16:44 sekjal and hopefully get my friends on board as well 16:44 sekjal yeah, I'm going to set on up to track my books, movies, music and such 16:44 brendan jcamins - everyone needs a home koha install 16:43 jcamins sekjal: your home Koha instance? 16:42 sekjal jcamins: well, in the future, my days off my revolve around getting my home Koha instance up and running, so it would make sense for me to be in chat then 16:37 jcamins_a sekjal: I'm not quite sure what a day off is, but I'm sure you shouldn't be spending it on #koha. ;) 16:35 cait i will try to comment on the rfc's too - but it's been a crazy week :( 16:35 cait sekjal: I know the feeling ;) 16:34 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3094 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Public Virtual Shelf can be Modified / Deleted by any non-logged in patron 16:34 owen I think Bug 3094 is fixed. Can anyone confirm? 16:34 sekjal :) 16:34 sekjal but for some reason I still find myself in chat... 16:33 sekjal today's my day off 16:33 sekjal chris_n: awesome, thanks! I'll read it tomorrow 16:33 chris_n sekjal: just commented up the RFC on hourly loans 16:28 cait ok, I will add me ass cc to the bug and write a reminder to myself 16:27 owen Thanks cait. No rush, but it looks like it could be marked fixed if it's working. 16:26 cait owen: I have a lot, but can't test today 16:19 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3187 normal, P5, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, pagination in authority search doesn't work 16:19 owen Anyone have enough authority records to test Bug 3187? 16:10 reva owen: I think may be creating new duplicate bib record for the serial and recording the compressed holdings in its item record and adding notes about the existence of two bib records may work. 16:07 reva owen: ok, I will first do what you told me and figure out a way to enter retrospective holdings. If you know anyone with serials issues as mine who solved it, I would appreciate knowing in the future. Thanks. 16:05 owen I don't know. 16:05 reva owen: I mean, for example v.10 (1970) - v.12 (1972), v.15 (1975); how would I show them? 16:04 owen I don't know about that, sorry :( 16:03 reva owen: ok, got that about creating item record when receiving; thanks. What about compressed holdings from before? where would they go? 16:03 owen ...when you create the subscription 16:03 owen Yes. You have to choose "create an item record when receiving this serial" 16:01 reva Ok, I will try that. So I can search for the bib record I just created from inside the "new Subscription" and build the pattern and it will attach a new item record for the bib every time I receive the issue and record it, correct? 15:58 owen You create a bib record first in the regular bib editor. Then you attach a subscription to it in Serials. Then you receive issues in Serials and attach items at that time. 15:56 reva owen: That is what I meant when I said "I see only a way to enter new subscription" with all the expected frequency, etc; but no way to input a bib record and create holdings in it. 15:55 owen From the staff client home page, click "Serials" 15:54 reva owen: please explain, where I would find this file. 15:52 owen reva: I mean using the serials module. /cgi-bin/koha/serials/serials-home.pl 15:51 reva owen: 3.0.6 does not have a serial module in Admin choices, except to enter subscriptions and go from there. But if you are meaning enter the title as serial (both using the serial framework and explicitly coding it in the leader), I have done that; there does not seem to be any way to enter holdings except in 952 $h and my version does not repeat that subfield, though I have enabled it. 15:41 owen http://git.biblibre.com/ not working anymore? 15:41 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.1�C (8:41 AM PDT on September 14, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Rising). 15:41 brendan @wunder 93117 15:30 owen I can hear the klaxons from here! 15:29 chris_n owen: after a brief test, running perltidy on tmpl files is *not* recommended for sanity's sake 15:28 owen reva: Use the serials module? Unfortunately that's not easy if you're migrating existing holdings 15:27 reva hi again, sorry kf: I stepped out. So what other ways are there to display holdings for serials in 3.0.6? 15:15 chris_n I'm not sure what would happen if one ran perltidy on a template file 15:14 kf leavning now - bye all 15:13 chris_n owen: the latter 15:13 ivanc tnks kf 15:13 owen chris_n: Am I to understand that you can perltidy a TMPL file? Or were you just making changes to the TMPL file based on the perltidy rules? 15:12 kf invanc: ask me tomorrow about RSWK and authorities - I can tell you some things 15:01 kf I think the repeated subfidles in item are perhaps problematic 14:51 reva Hi my friends, I have a quick question; when I turn on repeat for 952 $h (serial enumeration and chronology) so that various irregular numbering for the serials can be handled more elegantly, it does not work. (running Koha 3.0.6). Any ideas why? 14:44 ivanc any idea for using Schlagwortkatalog in text searching? whit the rule explain in the RSWK? 14:31 jcamins Aww. They are, of course (hot balloons, and books). :D 14:31 jcamins Today is awesome book day! 14:31 wizzyrea you also get kiddo proclaiming "HOT BALLOONS ARE AWESOME" 14:31 jcamins Time to head to work. 14:31 jcamins :) 14:30 wizzyrea >.> don't get me wrong, it's glorious ;) 14:30 wizzyrea "please use your fork for eating, not for stabbing the cat" 14:30 jcamins wizzyrea: you make it all sound so appealing. 14:30 wizzyrea now it's all "please don't put your peas in your water" and "it would be better if you didn't stick the drumstick up your nose" 14:29 wizzyrea idk, even when I was in "can't ever get comfortable" it was still a luxury to be in bed, not doing anything. 14:29 brendan that's so true 14:29 owen brendan can sleep at least. His wife must be going into "can't ever get comfortable" mode 14:28 wizzyrea :D 14:28 wizzyrea yes, in the "still luxuriating in the fact you can sleep in" mode 14:19 brendan I'm in the hurry up and wait mode 14:19 brendan it's getting closer 14:16 wizzyrea well not *that* close I guess but... never mind. lol. 14:15 wizzyrea ooh getting close! 14:15 brendan december 14:07 wizzyrea I forget when does the wee one arrive? 14:06 brendan :) 14:06 wizzyrea ooh, brendan is up early 14:06 * druthb waves to brendan 14:06 druthb hi, kf. :D 14:06 brendan morning 14:05 wizzyrea :) 14:05 wizzyrea ooh, hi kf 14:05 kf hi jcamins and wizzyrea :) and druthb! :) 13:57 druthb :D 13:56 wizzyrea how is everybody this morning? 13:56 * druthb waves to wizzyrea. 13:56 wizzyrea good morning peeps 12:51 jcamins Good morning, #koha 12:34 druthb jwagner++ # for taking it. 12:33 jwagner Wow, that was fast turnaround on the pic! 12:31 druthb Other non-work stuff is more fun. Go check my new facebook profile pic...Kind Of A Big Deal. 12:31 owen It's always easier to fix things for people who will appreciate it 12:30 druthb fixing things for wizzyrea and schuster a lot. That's "fun," of a sort, because they're two of my favorite people. Takes your fun where you can get it. 12:29 owen druthb: Working on anything fun lately? 12:29 druthb :D hi, owen! 12:29 owen Hi druthb 12:28 druthb mornin, #koha. 12:19 jwagner Hi Amit 12:19 Amit Hi Jwagner 12:18 ivanc hi owen 12:17 owen Hi #koha 11:59 mgarces my boss asked me to install this 11:58 mgarces =) 11:58 magnus mgarces. http://translate.koha.org/ 11:57 chris_n mgarces: yes 11:57 mgarces ?? 11:57 mgarces is koha avaylable in other languages 11:51 mgarces hello everyone 11:50 jwagner Hi magnus 11:47 nengard morning 11:47 magnus good morning jwagner & nengard! 10:29 chris they are looked after by the debian security team 10:29 chris its always better to have packages 10:28 ivanc cris: but still running :) 10:27 ivanc cris: true, but my libxml was from cpan, I thought it was better to have updated libraries 10:24 chris apt-get install libgbdm-dev 10:23 chris if you really have to install from source, rather than from packages, then you need the gdbm development libraries 10:21 ivanc cris: because a version error with libxml 10:16 chris and apt-get idzebra too 10:15 chris apt-get install libxml-libxslt-perl 10:14 chris why are you cpanning it on, not apt-get? 10:14 chris libxslt? 10:10 ivanc could help someone? 10:10 ivanc /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.3.0.0 10:10 ivanc and 10:10 ivanc /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.3.0.0 10:10 ivanc solved with the creation of 2 simbolic link 10:10 ivanc the lib is already present : perl -V | grep libs 10:10 ivanc with this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdbm 10:10 ivanc I've found a issue in zebra installer, cpan XML::LibXLT fail 10:10 ivanc with Debian lenny on the git installation 09:41 kf hm, working on documentation about borrower notification - my messaging table looks strange again :( 08:46 chris :) 08:46 kf I will try to talk to others too and I have no problem with testing a lot of patches :) 08:45 chris ill ask him tomorrow at work 08:45 chris but robin at catalyst might be able to take over 08:45 kf we will keep you busy :) 08:44 kf yep 08:44 chris once 3.2 is released ill be busy with 3.4 stuff 08:44 kf thx chris :) 08:44 chris until 3.2 is released, im happy to sign off on yours 08:44 kf hm. I think I am only a bit worried about finding people to sign off on mine. 08:40 chris but its nice to build up, ill sign yours, you sign mine type deals :) 08:40 chris new ones of course can just send to the list 08:40 chris yes, but building those relationships makes the project stronger 08:39 chris yup, but much more chance it will get pushed up 08:39 kf finding people to sign-off 08:39 kf I think it's good to do that, but more work for the developer too 08:37 chris hopefully we get to the point where its pretty much only signed off patches hitting the list 08:37 kf yeah, makes more sense and less work too 08:36 kf ok 08:36 chris for ones like that in the future, you could send direct to me, and ill send the signed off one to the list, save doubling up on the list (ie if its one ive said ill sign off on) 08:35 chris signed off and resent 08:32 chris patch looks good 08:32 chris ah cool 08:31 kf chris: I had problems with git commit --amend - but solved it :) 08:29 chris kf: am now 08:28 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.2�C (10:31 AM CEST on September 14, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Steady). 08:28 kf @wunder Konstanz 08:25 davi hi magnus 08:23 magnus hi davi 08:23 magnus hi ivanc 08:23 ivanc hi magnus 07:41 magnus hiya kf and #koha 07:41 kf hi magnus :) 07:39 munin kf: Karma for "git" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. 07:39 kf @karma git 07:39 kf git++ 07:32 kf hi ivanc :) 07:29 ivanc guten morgen kf 07:21 kf chris: aroundß 07:10 kf good mornign #koha 06:58 ivanc hi #koha 03:29 chris pretty much everything on that page is worth looking through (the admin one) 03:29 chris no worries 03:28 yhager found it. sorry 03:27 yhager I am looking at at the admin home page.. 03:26 yhager but I can't find the item type page link 03:26 chris there is a pdf there for 3.0 03:26 chris and for the rest http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 03:25 chris that itemtype link is the same 03:25 yhager chris: thanks! I downloaded the stable release though (3.0) 03:23 chris http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/index.php?ch=x2963#AEN3051 03:22 chris 2 secs, ill find you a link 03:22 chris you probably should read the manual 03:22 yhager chris: yes, I got that. but the option list there is empty. How can I define item types? 03:21 Amit heya brendan 03:21 brendan_l heya amit 03:19 chris its probably telling you you havent put an itemtype in 942c 03:18 yhager Trying to add my first record, I get an error about item 942 not filled - item type - what is this? 03:13 Amit heya mason 03:13 wasabi morning amit 03:13 Amit heya chris