Time  Nick       Message
00:00 mib_yjs7r  oh
00:00 wasabi     ... with read-only access for you
00:00 wasabi     http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/index.php
00:00 chris      just look at it :)
00:00 wasabi     mib_yjs7r: if you can't get actual DB access, phpmyadmin is the next best thing...
00:01 mib_yjs7r  i don't see anything
00:01 chris      hmm, try saving it then
00:01 chris      if there is nothing
00:01 mib_yjs7r  only choice is to download
00:01 chris      in both messages and when the report is run
00:01 chris      i suspect your vendor doesnt have the scripts running to send the mails
00:01 chris      and/or generate overdues
00:03 mib_yjs7r  guess not
00:03 mib_yjs7r  well, thanks so much for you help!
00:04 chris      no problem
00:04 mib_yjs7r  i'll bug them at liblime for assistance
00:04 chris      good luck :)
00:04 mib_yjs7r  thanks ;)
03:07 Amit       heya chris
03:20 brendan_l  heya amit
03:21 Amit       heya brendan
03:23 * Shiny    needs to stop email client alerting for "brenda"
03:24 brendan_l  heh
03:53 hdl        hi
03:56 Amit       heya hdl
03:56 hdl        Hi amit
03:57 Amit       @wunder Bangalore
03:57 munin      Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 21.0�C (8:30 AM IST on September 08, 2010). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 20.0�C.
04:19 * larsw    waves silently
05:24 cait       good morning #koha
05:44 Amit       heya cait
05:45 cait       hi Amit
07:33 ivanc      hi all
07:33 kf         good morning #koha
07:33 ivanc      hallo kf
07:34 kf         hi ivanc
07:50 magnus     hiya #koha
07:55 kf         hi magnus
07:55 magnus     guten morgen, kf
08:00 kf         item_level_itypes--
08:03 magnus     @karma item_level_itypes
08:03 munin      magnus: Karma for "item_level_itypes" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1.
08:09 kf         hmpf :)
08:09 kf         the hold link does not show if in 942 is an item type that is not for loan
08:10 kf         it should not check it if you don't use them :(
08:10 kf         will retest the problem in my test installation later, this was in 3.01.61
08:11 * robin    grumbles at zebra dying with no message on a rebuild.
08:20 kf         @karma zebra
08:20 munin      kf: Karma for "zebra" has been increased 2 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of -1.
08:20 robin      sounds about right
08:21 robin      fortunately, upgrading it to 2.0.44-2 seems to have fixed it. At least, it's gotten further now.
08:21 robin      It'll get a ++ when it completes correctly :)
08:31 robin      > �kw,wrdl: a � returned 43029 results.
08:31 robin      zebra++
08:36 kf         :)
08:56 slef       chris: thanks for the tip. So what is it? easytether or vodem?
08:59 slef       @later tell owen I got some off-list response. I need to follow it up, but it's still very busy here
08:59 munin      slef: The operation succeeded.
09:32 stephane_  alex_a: oui :-D
12:37 owen       Whassup #koha?
12:37 kf         hi owen
12:41 hdl        hi owen
13:15 ebegin     chris, around?
13:17 ebegin     or hdl, did you took over chris' role for translation?
13:17 ebegin     hdl, forget that.  it's fredericd if my memory serves me well :)
13:18 hdl        ebegin: your memory serves you right
13:18 ebegin     :)
13:36 jcamins    Hello.
13:36 jcamins    hdl: how do you enable xpath searching in Zebra?
13:37 hdl        jcamins: you just have to add enable xpath to your etc/zebradb/etc/default.idx
13:37 hdl        and reindex
13:39 hdl        sorry not default.ids
13:39 hdl        sorry not default.idx
13:39 hdl        but record.abs
13:40 hdl        xpath disable changed to xpath enable
13:42 jcamins    Got it, thanks.
13:43 jcamins    Any chance you now how to search for all records that do *not* have a specific string?
13:44 jcamins    *know how, even
13:45 hdl        RPN Queries zebra helps you
13:45 jcamins    Ah, thanks.
13:46 briceSanc  Hello !
13:46 ebegin     Hey briceSanc!
13:47 hdl        The _ALLRECORDS index name is used for total database      export. The search term is ignored, it may be empty.            Z> find @attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 ""                 Combination with other index types can be made. For example, to      find all records which are not indexed in      the Title register, issue one of the two      equivalent queries:            Z> find @not @attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 "" @attr 1=Title @attr 2=10
13:47 hdl        jcamins:
13:47 hdl        here you are
13:47 hdl        http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/querymodel-zebra.html
13:47 jcamins    Thanks.
13:48 jcamins    hdl++
14:26 nengard    2 new koha tutorial videos recorded :)
14:26 jcamins    nengard++
14:28 jcamins    I have encountered the weirdest bug in the Cataloging module.
14:29 wizzyrea   uhoh
14:29 jcamins    If you duplicate a 650 field, twice, then try to add a subfield 'v' to the third 650, and delete the extra subfield 'v' from the first 650, Koha erases your entire record.
14:30 wizzyrea   Q!
14:30 wizzyrea   !!
14:30 jcamins    At least, it seems to.
14:30 jcamins    (and you're wondering, what possible reason could there be for such a ridiculous series of steps?)
14:31 nengard    strange!! off to try it myself :) see if it happens for me too
14:32 jcamins    You have to have stuff in all three 650 fields.
14:55 nengard    jcamins - got distracted like a puppy with ADD :) time to try it for real this time :)
14:56 jcamins    At a later date I will try to track down the actual bug and fix it. Right now I just want to check that I'm not nuts, because it is kind of a weird workflow.
14:56 jcamins    ;)
14:58 nengard    it does happen as you explained!
14:59 nengard    but also another problem
14:59 nengard    i clicked the clone on the third 650 subfield v and it cloned it on the first, not the third
14:59 nengard    this I think is related to the problem
14:59 jcamins    Yeah, I have a bug report on that, I think.
14:59 jcamins    Or not.
14:59 jcamins    Hm.
15:00 nengard    see bug 3264
15:00 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3264 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, UnCloneField() / minus button  in MARC authorities editor can clear all subfields.
15:01 jcamins    Yup, that's the problem.
15:01 nengard    :)
15:01 nengard    what i don't see is the one about clone cloning the wrong field
15:01 nengard    so i might add that bug - unless you are
15:02 jcamins    If you want to add that bug, be my guest. I won't have a chance to do it until tomorrow.
15:02 jcamins    And if you add it, it will definitely be there.
15:05 * owen     has looked at bug 3264 before, but couldn't figure it out without rewriting the js from scratch
15:05 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3264 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, UnCloneField() / minus button  in MARC authorities editor can clear all subfields.
15:07 jcamins    Is anyone using biblios in place of the Koha editor anymore?
15:08 * owen     had high hopes for it back in a more optimistic time
15:08 jcamins    Likewise.
15:09 jcamins    How is there no subfield $3 for the 501 field?
15:17 Yemeni     Hello worold
15:17 Yemeni     *world
15:20 Yemeni     anyone could help me with porting stage-marc-import.pl in Koha 3 to run in Windows?
15:21 Yemeni     see, I've successfully installed Koha 3 in Windows, but, when testing, the MARC records batch-import tool didn't work properly.
15:22 Yemeni     everything else worked..
15:22 Yemeni     Koha logged a "Premature End of Script Headers".
15:23 owen       Yemeni: I don't know anything about it, but I know there should be more to that error than that
15:24 jcamins    Yemeni: I think the usual recommendation for running Koha under Windows is "use a virtual machine." The only person I know of who has run Koha on Windows is chris_n.
15:26 Yemeni     owen: I'm not into perl so I don't know exactly where things went wrong, but my hunch is telling me the error relates to outputting HTML headers
15:27 owen       Yemeni: "Premature End of Script Headers" is a generic Perl error. There should also be a more specific one in your error log
15:27 nengard    jcamins it is my understanding that all development and support for biblios stopped when chris when to work for librarything
15:27 Yemeni     owen: that's the only error Koha reports
15:27 owen       In the log, or onscreen?
15:28 Yemeni     on the log
15:28 Yemeni     see, the stage-marc-import.pl runs in the background (AJAX call)
15:28 jcamins    nengard: Okay, that's what I figured.
15:29 Yemeni     jcamins: I only have one server, which is a Widnows server, so I'm doing my best to deply Koha 3 in it
15:29 nengard    jcamins bug 5206 submitted
15:29 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5206 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, cloning a subfield clones the wrong one
15:29 Yemeni     jcamins: and it actually ran smoothly, except for the batch-import of MARC records
15:29 jcamins    nengard++
15:29 nengard    keep getting sidetracked but i do eventually do these things :)
15:30 wizzyrea   has anybody had any trouble printing from firefox to starsp200's?
15:30 wizzyrea   sp200, that is
15:32 Yemeni     hmmm I'll try to make the call to stage-marc-import.pl non-AJAXified and see what things go on the screen
15:32 Yemeni     brb
16:01 cait       hi #koha
16:01 jcamins    Hello.
16:01 cait       hi jcamins :)
16:09 wizzyrea   have you guys seen this one before?
16:09 wizzyrea   http://www.screencast.com/users/neklstraining/folders/Jing/media/58b2c10e-4fa3-4b31-83c1-a5eaee27878e
16:10 jcamins    Nope.
16:11 jcamins    How many pages of results were there?
16:11 wizzyrea   I'm not sure
16:11 chris_n    Yemeni: I had no problems doing a bulk import
16:11 jcamins    wizzyrea: I'm wondering if there might be a bad record somewhere.
16:11 wizzyrea   yea, that's what I think too
16:11 chris_n    Yemeni: have you check the koha-error_log?
16:30 Yemeni     chris_n: are you still around?
16:31 chris_n    sure, for a few minutes
16:32 Yemeni     oh
16:32 Yemeni     I only get a "Premature end of script headers"
16:32 Yemeni     error logged
16:32 chris_n    check the shebang line in that pl script
16:33 chris_n    btw, what flavor of perl are you using?
16:33 Yemeni     the #!C:/strawberry/perl/bin/perl
16:33 chris_n    hmm... that's ok
16:33 Yemeni     I use strawberry (latest version)
16:34 chris_n    do the apache logs show any additional info?
16:34 Yemeni     nada
16:34 chris_n    ie. access.log and error.log
16:34 chris_n    it seems that this is caused by pathing problems iirc
16:35 Yemeni     I'll print warn messages and try to figure out where things when wrong
16:35 chris_n    I'd have to look on my install and that's at home
16:36 Yemeni     by the way, you have Koha 3 running correctly on windows?
16:36 chris_n    yup
16:36 chris_n    but not in production use
16:36 chris_n    and I'm not sure it will be stable in production use on Win32
16:36 chris_n    it's a bit sluggish on my test box
16:36 Yemeni     you had to modify any sources?
16:37 chris_n    and that is only with ~7K records
16:37 chris_n    most of my source modifications are in HEAD
16:38 Yemeni     well I couldn't test its performance because I couldn't upload marc records you see
16:38 chris_n    there may be one or two missing, but I have not done much modifying beyond the installer and about.pl
16:38 Yemeni     i modified installer.pm and koha-conf.xml
16:38 chris_n    I'll take a look when I get home and see if I've missed anything I did
16:38 Yemeni     hmm let me check with th about page
16:38 chris_n    Yemeni: what version
16:39 chris_n    of koha?
16:39 Yemeni     3
16:39 chris_n    3.??
16:39 chris_n    there's 3.0.x and 3.2.beta
16:39 Yemeni     .00.06
16:40 chris_n    ahh... I'm running fairly recent 3.2 code base
16:40 chris_n    so maybe some difference there
16:40 Yemeni     I dodn't touch the beta
16:40 Yemeni     oh I see
16:40 chris_n    we run the beta in production here
16:40 chris_n    its pretty solid atm
16:40 Yemeni     oh really, no problems?
16:41 chris_n    none
16:41 chris_n    stable will be out in the very near future
16:41 chris_n    so for a new install there is little to justify using 3.0.6
16:41 Yemeni     hmmm then I'll download the beta and make my experiments on it
16:42 chris_n    k, well I'll let you know if I find any changes which affected the importer on my win32 install
16:42 Yemeni     or at least copy their source code of the mar-importer
16:42 Yemeni     *marc
16:43 chris_n    Yemeni: I'd be interested in looking at your mods to the installer, however
16:43 jcamins    Yemeni: what size library do you have? If chris_n noticed performance problems with 7k records, that's a pretty big issue with Win32. On Linux it will run comfortably with 165k+ records.
16:43 chris_n    are you using git or some sort of version control?
16:44 Yemeni     I think I have subversion installed on my NetBeans
16:44 chris_n    jcamins: keep in mind that I have done very little tuning or testing on that platform
16:44 * wizzyrea has going on 300k bibs, it's strainy but it works.
16:44 Yemeni     I'll show you the mods (email?)
16:44 chris_n    Yemeni: can you send me some diffs
16:44 wizzyrea   oh sorry, 350k something
16:44 Yemeni     jcamins: 6-10k only
16:44 chris_n    Yemeni: chris.nighswonger [at] gmail [dot] com
16:45 Yemeni     olright
16:45 chris_n    tnx
16:45 Yemeni     welcome, thanks to you too
16:45 * chris_n  has been working toward at least having a working option to install on win32 with strawberry
16:45 Yemeni     catch-up later
16:45 chris_n    bye
16:47 chris_n    jcamins: I'd love to have time to drop about a million bibs into it and see if the smoke got out :-)
16:48 * chris_n  thinks its great when the cpu fan sounds like a jet
16:48 jcamins    chris_n: heh. I bet it would be spectacular. We started having performance problems on our VM when we had 200k records, but that was with no tuning.
16:49 jcamins    I don't think I would want to try that on my home computer, because what would happen if it died? ;)
16:49 jcamins    Plus, that would require me having a Windows computer.
16:56 chris_n    lori++
17:14 rhcl       >diff overdue_notices.pl 'overdue_notices.pl -man' ?= 0     #I
17:14 rhcl       #I'm still learning this stuff...
17:23 wizzyrea   rhcl: http://lifehacker.com/5632808/linux-mint-debian-edition-offers-faster-updates-with-rougher-edges
18:05 moodaepo   @wunder 56001
18:05 munin      moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 16.8�C (1:06 PM CDT on September 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.20 in 988.7 hPa (Rising).
18:13 brendan    hi moodaepo
18:13 brendan    @wunder 93117
18:13 munin      brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 20.1�C (11:11 AM PDT on September 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Rising).
18:14 moodaepo   Howdy brendan don't you get bored with 20C all the time : )
18:15 jcamins    @wunder 11105
18:15 munin      jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 32.3�C (2:16 PM EDT on September 08, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Falling).
18:15 jcamins    The weather is *always* nicer everywhere else.
18:16 jcamins    Surely the weather should be improving here soon...
18:16 nengard    moodaepo i don't think i'd get tired of it! and if you get bored you can just go on vacation :)
18:18 moodaepo   nengard: Extreme weather vacations aye
18:18 nengard    :)
18:19 jcamins    nengard: I don't think I would ever be in NYC if we took vacations due to weather.
18:23 nengard    living in NYC means taking vacations for a break! but if you live where brendan does then you take vacations for a change, cause it's always restful there :) or seemed that way :)
18:39 wizzyrea   @wunder lawrence, ks
18:39 munin      wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 25.7�C (1:40 PM CDT on September 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling).
18:39 wizzyrea   oh that's nice
18:39 wizzyrea   looking forward to a rainy thursday
18:40 wizzyrea   hoping for a sunny saturday, going to the huff and puff hot air balloon rally :)
18:40 jcamins    There's a hot air balloon rally?
18:40 wizzyrea   *nod*
18:40 wizzyrea   http://www.huff-n-puff.org/
18:41 jcamins    That is so cool!
18:43 wizzyrea   this was the hubs and the spud last year at huffnpuff
18:43 wizzyrea   http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=643524&l=777cb21a48&id=1078323327
18:44 jcamins    :)
18:44 wizzyrea   and a very stirring video
18:44 wizzyrea   http://cjonline.com/multimedia/video/clips/features/feat_huffnpuff04.mov
18:44 wizzyrea   we didn't take that
18:44 wizzyrea   terrible music lol
18:45 wizzyrea   very kansas :P
18:48 chris      Morning
18:49 wizzyrea   mornin chris
18:50 owen       Hi chris
18:50 cait       morning chris
18:50 jcamins    Hello.
18:51 chris      Nice email from lori :) and nice work fixing stacys problem cait
18:51 cait       thx
18:53 jcamins    chris: What do I have to do to get the patch for bug 4289 added to 3.4?
18:53 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4289 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Add a syspref 'OpacNotPublic', to hide OPAC search-bar and force authentication on all OPAC pages
18:53 jcamins    I've tested it fairly thoroughly, and it works, but I'm not sure how to sign off on it, since the attached file is a regular patch and not a git patch.
18:54 chris      Ahh was the git patch sent to the list?
18:54 jcamins    Oh, I'll check.
18:55 jcamins    I wasn't around back then.
18:56 cait       what is the difference between a git patch and a regular patch?
18:56 cait       can't you download the patch file and git am it?
18:56 jcamins    I don't think it was, no.
18:56 cait       this is the way I do the testing
18:56 jcamins    cait: It doesn't say who did it, etc.
18:56 cait       ah
18:57 cait       right, it seems like some lines are missing at the beginning
18:58 chris      Did you apply it alright?
18:58 jcamins    The db revision needs to be changed, but other than that it worked.
18:58 chris      wasabi did it, id comment on the bug ask him to resend
18:58 jcamins    Okay.
18:58 chris      Then colin can qa it
18:59 chris      And if it passes there no reason why it can't go in 3.4
18:59 jcamins    Thanks.
19:00 jcamins    I figure the closer my installation is to HEAD, the more useful my testing will be.
19:00 chris      Yup
19:01 chris      I have an email from colin about 3.4 workflow that I have ot answer on a real keyboard :)
19:03 cait       chris: how do you get someone to sign-off on your patches? :)
19:03 chris      How do I do it?
19:03 cait       I am depending on the community here
19:03 chris      2 ways
19:04 chris      Attach to the bug and update it asking for signoff, and email the devel list to ask too
19:04 chris      Or
19:04 chris      git send-email to a person
19:05 chris      Like you might agree to sign off on magnus
19:05 chris      And he for you
19:05 cait       hm ok, i need to work something out then
19:06 cait       it's easier if you have developing coworkers ;)
19:06 chris      The first option is a good one too, emailing thr list saying I've attached a patch please signoff on it
19:07 cait       i have a long list of not pushed patches, not sure what will get in 3.2 and what will have to wait for 3.4
19:07 sekjal     are sign-offs by coworkers just as good as sign-offs by others?
19:07 jcamins    cait: I'd offer, except I think I rarely use the features you work on. Plus, I still haven't gotten e-mail set up.
19:07 chris      yes
19:08 cait       I think chris signed-off on one of my acq patches
19:08 chris      Id expect all companies with more than one developer to be able to get at least one coworker signoff
19:08 chris      Yup I did
19:09 cait       bug 5090
19:09 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5090 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, New order from empty record does not save publication year and ISBN
19:09 chris      That's why mail to the devel list is good ppl will go, oh I like that, ill try it
19:09 chris      And can then sign off on it too
19:09 cait       yeah, but some things are perhaps not that important for all
19:10 chris      They can ignore that email
19:10 sekjal     okay, great!  I'll get a rigourized sign-off procedure in place for ByWater
19:11 jcamins    chris: I'm glad you're not expecting companies with only one developer to have coworker sign-offs. ;)
19:11 chris      Anyone who complains about getting a mail asking for a signoff pn the devel list, well they will get no sympathy from me :)
19:11 cait       jcamins: I will be happy to sign-off on your patches too
19:12 cait       I did some of owen, because I was the one reporting the bug
19:12 cait       if someone is in the mood, here is my list ;)
19:12 cait       http://www.fernstudiert.de/fernstudium/doku.php?id=koha:dev:start
19:12 chris      You can't have too many signoffs
19:14 jcamins    chris: If I sign off on a patch with an e-mail address that isn't active yet (STILL waiting for my MX records to refresh), will that break anything?
19:14 chris      Nope that's fine
19:14 jcamins    Cool, thanks.
19:18 cait       chris: why not use bugzilla to track the sign-offs?
19:18 cait       perhaps we could have a new status or somethong for sign-off after patch-sent
19:19 chris      Could do
19:19 cait       it would be easy to search for patches not signed-off that way
19:19 chris      That's what I suggested :) combined with a mail to the list
19:19 chris      Cos ppl don't look at bugzilla all the time
19:20 chris      Passive + active ftw
19:20 cait       hm ok
19:20 cait       just thinking to make it easier
19:21 cait       I am used to follow the bugzilla mailing list too
19:21 chris      Ill add another status, seeking signoff
19:21 sekjal     sounds like some git-hooks might be useful here
19:21 chris      When I get back to wellington
19:21 sekjal     something to automatically do certain actions when a patch is formatted and sent
19:22 chris      Sekjal: would need to be local hooks
19:22 sekjal     chris:  right
19:22 sekjal     but we could put the code up on the wiki, and let developers install/modify it for their local machines
19:22 chris      Sent is probably too late
19:22 owen       Can you pass a datetime to strftime()?
19:23 chris      Ie we want the patch to be signed off before its sent ideally
19:23 chris      (Sent to the patches list that is)
19:23 cait       attach te patch to bugzilla before sending it out then?
19:24 chris      Attached to the bug, signed off, then sent
19:24 cait       yep
19:24 chris      Or sent to someone, signed off, then to the list
19:24 sekjal     oooh, this sounds like it's calling for a flowchart!
19:24 cait       flowchart++
19:24 * cait     volunteers sekjal to draw a flowchart
19:24 wizzyrea   www.gliffy.com
19:24 chris      That way patches to the lsit should all apply
19:24 wizzyrea   >.>
19:25 sekjal     wizzyrea: you use Gliffy, too?! neat
19:25 chris      (Might not work) but at least they have been tested to apply
19:25 wizzyrea   I do. Only the free version
19:25 wizzyrea   tho
19:25 sekjal     I paid for a year, but let it lapse
19:25 wizzyrea   I always cheat by printing to PDF (because I use a mac and you can do that)
19:25 sekjal     got to keep all my existing Gliffs in excess of 5
19:25 sekjal     so I just rename and recycle
19:26 wizzyrea   ooh clever
19:26 sekjal     I keep worrying they're going to close that loophole...
19:26 * owen     found a nice tool for windows that lets him print multiple pages to a single PDF
19:28 chris      Ok better start my day bbl
19:35 owen       So I guess strftime() needs a time. What do I do if I have an ISO date instead?
19:45 chris_n    hmm
19:45 chris_n    can someone confirm that cgi-bin/koha/members/notices.pl?borrowernumber=X does *not* filter on borrower X?
19:46 Yemeni     hello everyone
19:47 Yemeni     any Perl-geek around?
19:48 Yemeni     I "still" have a problem running stage-marc-import.pl in windows
19:49 Yemeni     getting a "Premature End of Script" error logged by Koha
19:50 Yemeni     I think the problem arises when "close STDOUT" is called
19:53 cait       chris_n: I wrote a bug report for that but thought it was fixed
19:53 chris_n    cait: maybe... I'm working to upgrade our production box now and see if it goes away
19:54 cait       ok, I will give you the bug number, it's probably marked resolved
19:55 Yemeni     chris_n: I downloaded the latest revision of stage-marc-import.pl from koha 3.2, but it turned out to be exactly the same as of koha's 3.00.06
19:56 chris_n    Yemeni: sorry; I'll take a look at my install and see if I can see what's up
19:57 Yemeni     hmmm, second thought, I think the problem is in sharing the db connection between the parent and child process (?)
19:57 cait       chris_n: can not find it :(
19:59 Yemeni     I commented the "close STDERR" and this time the error became:
19:59 Yemeni     stage-marc-import.pl: DBD::mysql::db ping failed: handle 2 is owned by thread 922904 not current thread 264e3cc (handles can't be shared between threads and your driver may need a CLONE method added) at C:/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm
19:59 chris_n    cait: no worry; if it still shows up in HEAD, I'll fix it
19:59 cait       ok
19:59 jcamins    Yemeni: I think handle 2 is STDERR.
19:59 chris_n    the wonderful thing about things breaking on a production install is that they get fixed quick :-)
20:00 owen       Okay, how about this: anyone know the best way to take an ISO date and format it according a specific pattern?
20:01 jcamins    owen: I do not, but apparently there's a Date::ISO package for Perl.
20:02 jcamins    I don't know what it does, but I'll throw that out there anyway.
20:03 Yemeni     @jcamins oh it seems right
20:03 munin      Yemeni: Error: "jcamins" is not a valid command.
20:04 Yemeni     jcamins: oh it seems right
20:04 Yemeni     I'll see if that leads somewhere
20:04 jcamins    Handle 1 is stdout.
20:05 jcamins    Maybe stdin is handle 0? I'm just guessing about that one... I've never had to redirect stdin to anything.
20:27 Yemeni     quit
20:30 ccurry     Hello all!  I'm trying to user mysqldump to backup my koha database and I'm getting the following error: "Error 2013: Lost connection to MySQL server during query when dumping table `biblioitems` at row: 207570".  I'm using this command: "mysqldump -ukoha -p --ignore-table koha.sessions --ignore-table koha.zebraqueue koha > /backup/koha.`/bin/date +\%Y\%m\%d`.sql"  I tried the --opt and...
20:30 ccurry     ...--single-transaction options, with no change.  The back up fails at the same row every time.  Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
20:30 richard    hi
20:38 wizzyrea   can someone check this for me, it's kind of complicated but I'll try to explain
20:38 wizzyrea   itemtype circ rules
20:38 wizzyrea   create a rule for an itemtype that you want to be from home library only in library A
20:38 wizzyrea   with a specific patron category
20:38 wizzyrea   like, child
20:39 wizzyrea   and a rule for the default category defining the same itype as holds from home library only
20:39 wizzyrea   in library B
20:40 wizzyrea   create only the default rule for home library only, with the same itype as library A
20:40 wizzyrea   make an item with your itype
20:41 wizzyrea   place holds on it for a default home library A patron, a default library B patron, and a child library A patron
20:41 wizzyrea   and a child library B patron
20:41 wizzyrea   ugh lol, this is impossible. :)
20:42 wizzyrea   oi, never mind. I'm going to have to write this all out.
20:42 * wizzyrea shuts up and goes away.
20:49 jcamins    Apparently having a questionmark in any authority controlled heading field breaks authority control for an entire record?
21:04 wizzyrea   ew
21:05 jcamins    Yeah.
21:06 * jcamins  adds "look into and overhaul authority control system" to his already painfully long to-do list
21:12 jcamins    And with that, it is time for me to go learn about the Russian Avant-Garde.
21:12 jcamins    Good night, #koha.
21:12 wizzyrea   later
21:41 wizzyrea   @later tell nengard http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual-spanish/ ;)
21:41 munin      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
22:00 wizzyrea   @later tell nengard still a couple of tweaks to go but soon, soon on es.
22:00 munin      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.