Time Nick Message 00:53 Genji Greetings all. 00:54 Genji how do i put a biblio, and its marcxml and its associated db linked fields, into the zebraqueue? 00:54 Genji AddItem does not cause a zebraqueue event. 01:34 darling wizzyrea, check yer mail for wordpress potention wreckage opportunity from me just now 01:34 darling potential 01:34 Genji poteintial wreckage oppertunity? 01:35 darling yeah, some of that too 01:35 Genji as in, hack wordpress? 01:35 darling mostly add rewrite rules 01:35 Genji or a security flaw that needs fix? 01:35 Genji oh. 01:35 darling so the manual can have tidy urls that google will like better 06:58 * magnus makes his apologies for not attending the meeting yesterday, and hands out leftover virtual birthday cake to anyone who wants it 07:28 paul_p hello world. sorry for being afk yesterday, but I was at the beach with my family 09:27 cait hi #koha 09:27 chris hi cait 09:28 cait :) 09:36 Amit heya cait 09:36 cait hi Amit 09:36 Amit kf is there? 09:37 Amit can any one help me regarding amazon review? 09:58 cait Amit: I am kf 09:59 Amit heya kf 09:59 Amit i have have problem with amazon review is not now coming? 09:59 Amit can u help me? 10:01 Amit cait: can u help me for amazon review? 10:01 cait what is your problem? 10:01 Amit my amazon review is not coming 10:02 cait which version of koha? 10:02 Amit master branch 10:02 Amit http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2010-06-30 i m seeing this log 10:03 cait have you set the private and access keys in sys prefs? 10:03 Amit yes 10:03 Amit i have already set 10:03 cait which locale are u using? 10:03 cait amazonlocale 10:04 Amit american 10:05 cait have you checked your logs? 10:05 Amit i m also seeing error log its's give error 10:05 Amit opac-detail.pl: could not retrieve http://webservices.amazon.com/onca/xml?AWSAccessKeyId=0V5RRRRJZ3HR2RQFNHR2&AssociateTag=kadabox-20&IdType=ASIN&ItemId=0743538277&Operation=ItemLookup&ResponseGroup=EditorialReview%2CReviews%2CSimilarities&Service=AWSECommerceService&Timestamp=2010-08-12T09%3A35%3A19Z&Version=2009-06-01&Signature=YR9eN2%2FAOlIMspBevDjuBDgYIOlhKwuXtUWtZR6MHk8%3D at /home/kohasys/kohaclone/C4/External/Amazon.pm line 161. 10:06 cait ok, if you click the link now it says: 10:06 Amit yes 10:06 cait Request has expired. Timestamp date is 2010-08-12T09:35:19Z. 10:06 cait is your server date/time correct? 10:07 Amit Thu Aug 12 15:47:58 IST 2010 10:08 cait you are located in india, right? perhaps amazon can not deal with that? 10:08 cait not sure here 10:08 Amit so 10:08 Amit i have to reset my time 10:08 Amit i have to reset my server time 10:08 cait it seems evey request to amazon sends a timestamp and if it is too old you dont get the reviews and covers from amazon 10:08 cait you could try and see if it makes a difference 10:09 Amit but cover is appearing review is not coming 10:09 cait but perhaps not good for other things 10:09 Amit yes 10:09 cait I had covers too 10:09 cait only the reviews were not working 10:09 Amit try with changing the time zone 10:11 Amit not effect after changing the time 10:12 Amit cait: any other solution 10:12 cait what says the error log? 10:12 Amit same 10:13 cait I would check the error log immediately after reloading the opac page 10:13 cait still expired? 10:13 Amit [Thu Aug 12 06:20:46 2010] opac-detail.pl: could not retrieve http://webservices.amazon.com/onca/xml?AWSAccessKeyId=0V5RRRRJZ3HR2RQFNHR2&AssociateTag=kadabox-20&IdType=ASIN&ItemId=0689841493&Operation=ItemLookup&ResponseGroup=EditorialReview%2CReviews%2CSimilarities&Service=AWSECommerceService&Timestamp=2010-08-12T10%3A20%3A45Z&Version=2009-06-01&Signature=rG7SHzdJ6KalKA2E5POpW%2FpKOyM1kbP2jg2H5VPc5FM%3D at /home/kohasys/kohaclone/C4/External/Amazon.pm line 161. 10:15 cait hm be careful pasting the urls 10:15 cait I see your awsaccesskeyid in there 10:15 cait there is another error message now 10:16 cait complaining about your login data 10:16 cait I see you set associate tag and access key 10:16 cait is your private key there too? 10:16 cait in koha? 10:16 Amit yes 10:17 cait The request signature we calculated does not match the signature you provided. Check your AWS Secret Access Key and signing method. 10:18 Amit k 10:18 cait seems like a different problem now 11:18 OpenUser Hello, we notice the staff client display of the details page is different to the OPAC, that is there aren't as many marc tags displaying. Is this something that is easily changed? 11:21 druthb @wunder 20817 11:21 munin druthb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 24.9�C (7:29 AM EDT on August 12, 2010). Conditions: Thunderstorm. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Rising). 11:42 Amit heya nengard, jwagner 11:42 jwagner Hi Amit 11:57 cait @wunder Reutlingen 11:57 munin cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 19.9�C (2:04 PM CEST on August 12, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 31.12 in 1053.7 hPa (Rising). 12:17 nengard grrrr 12:18 nengard just started working on a bunch of things that were already fixed 12:18 owen I was just about to email him. Unless you already have? 12:19 nengard i did 12:19 nengard and i batch edited the bugs 12:19 nengard but i had already done work :( 12:20 owen How do you batch edit bugs? 12:20 nengard :) magic - hang on let me go find the link 12:20 nengard at the bottom of the page there is a link 'Change Several Bugs at Once ' 12:20 nengard if you're on a page that lists bugs 12:21 nengard so i searched for 'misspelled' and checked off his bugs and changed them to patched 12:21 owen Neat, I hadn't noticed that before 12:23 owen Uh oh, VirtualBox upgrade. Preparing to dive. 12:35 nengard oh yeah - virtualbox did prompt me to do that yesterday - in a webinar!!! guess i better do that now 12:36 * owen is in a land of unending beauty since upgrading 12:38 nengard how so? just upgraded -not seeing anything particularly beautiful 12:38 owen No, not really. I always hope.... 12:38 nengard got it! 12:39 nengard well i was able to patch anther misspelling bug this morning - one that wasn't done already 12:48 owen nengard: Isn't Bug 3929 fixed? 12:48 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3929 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, parameters in guided reports 12:48 owen Don't we have that option now in HEAD? 12:48 nengard what option - this bug tells me nothing ... the title isn't helpful and there is no summary 12:49 cait nengard: the patch had a lof of information - I'm using it 12:49 cait and there is a help file in koha 12:50 nengard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Guided_reports_RFC 12:51 nengard reading the RFC I don't think it's all there yet ... there are some choices, but date range isn't one of them ... off to confirm if i'm right or not 12:51 cait *sighs* cant start koha in my vb - I am not in my home network :( 12:52 cait nengard: I think the list works, but my only report using it requires to enter the borrowernumber 12:56 nengard had to clear out my logs and restart sql to get koha to start :) now i can test 12:57 nengard i'm still confused - all i see that's different is that the limits now have << >> around them ... but the limits are the same as they always were - maybe i'm just still to tired to think straight 13:05 jcamins Good morning. 13:06 owen Hi jcamins 13:08 nengard My calendar says it's the 12th and I'm pretty short on articles for the next newsletter - I'm up for all tips and news you want to share, send it along to me today or tomorrow - it just has to be 1-3 lines long! 13:13 larsw nengard, sent :) 13:13 jcamins Did anyone else get an e-mail from Anuradha.K.T. and respond to it? He didn't e-mail the mailing list, but his e-mail doesn't sound particularly specific to me. 13:14 nengard larsw you're my new best friend!! :) 13:16 owen I never notice before that Liblime bought Google ads for the term "koha" 13:17 owen "LibLime Offers Complete Support Packages on Koha Open-Source ILS" ...and it links to LEK. 13:17 * owen fumes 13:19 jcamins I find myself doubting my sanity, and it's not even 9:30 yet... if you have a MARC record, and convert it to MARCXML, it's the exact same data, right? 13:19 jcamins I have always believed it was, but I just got an e-mail asking me for an example record in MARC and MARCXML. 13:22 * owen wonders where all the work he did in this branch went :( 13:27 larsw nengard, no worries. it's just self-advertisment, after all. :) also, looks like it's currently going to be my final contribution to Koha for a while 13:27 nengard oh no??!! 13:31 larsw I left Catalyst and, alas, Koha isn't something I use myself, so I don't work on it in my free time, either 13:32 wizzyrea larsw: I'm so sad. 13:32 larsw no need to be sad, others continue what I did 13:32 wizzyrea but they aren't you :) 13:33 wizzyrea (that is to say, I like you, I'm sad you won't be hanging out with us much) 13:33 larsw but robin might be a better me than I am :) 13:33 * wizzyrea is sometimes very bad at compliments 13:34 larsw thanks, I do appreciate the sentiment :) 13:34 larsw and I intend to hang out here at least for a while more 13:34 wizzyrea \o/ 13:38 owen The IRC log is an imperfect backup of my brain. 13:38 owen I should yammer here more about everything I do. 13:38 larsw owen, heh :) 13:39 magnus owen: as long as it's remotely koha-related we're all ears! ;-) 14:00 owen If I mark a suggestion as "accepted," shouldn't an email message end up in my message_queue table for that patron? 14:31 jwagner owen, I don't know if the acq emails go through the message queue. They should certainly get emailed, though. 14:33 owen jwagner: Looking at Suggestions.pm it certainly seems like the queue is used. 14:34 owen sub ModSuggestion { ... if ($$suggestion{STATUS}){ ... my $enqueued = C4::Letters::EnqueueLetter({ 14:34 owen Hmm... I wonder if it's because I have no suggestions notice defined? 14:37 owen jwagner: Do you have a suggestions letter in your system? 14:41 jwagner acq suggestions don't go through the notice setup. There are four hard-coded templates that are used. Don't remember what directory offhand & I'm not logged in. Look for mail_suggestion_ACCEPTED.tmpl (that's one of them) 14:42 jwagner I've been _wishing with all my heart_ that someone would sponsor a rewrite so that acq suggestions would work like notices -- files the site could customize locally. 14:42 owen I see calls to C4::Letters::EnqueueLetter in Reserves.pm, Suggestions.pm, advance_notices.pl, and overdue_notices.pl 14:43 owen ...which makes it look like Suggestions should work the same as with hold notices, advance notices, overdues, etc. 14:43 jwagner Maybe someone has fixed it in current head, then? I haven't noticed & don't remember seeing any patches come across for that 14:45 owen A patch from hdl was approved on 2009-09-30, "Adding Letters management to Suggestions." 14:45 jwagner commit #? or bug #? 14:46 owen Here's what I'm looking at: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88bb1b635bc2b58b4c7d3d6510b35ed7f03ada3d 14:47 jwagner Hmmm. Will look later -- gotta run to a meeting right now. 14:59 owen jwag_mtg: The code referencing mail_suggestion_ACCEPTED.tmpl etc. seems to be gone now 15:18 owen Hm, suggestion.pl: can't enqueue letter HASH(0xa5073c8) 15:24 owen No suggestions fans out there in #koha land today I take it. 16:20 jwagner owen, looking through the bug updates you've been doing, it seems like my original message reporting that acq emails weren't working was because of this change (adding to notices-type setup)? 16:20 jwagner But no one ever updated the bug to reflect that? 16:21 owen Yup, and I think I've got it working 16:21 jwagner Woo-hoo! 16:21 jwagner I saw there were separate problems about no templates delivered and no way to create any. Anything else? 16:22 owen bug 5127 is one other part 16:22 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5127 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, No sample suggestions notices are installed by default 16:22 owen And I found a typo in Suggestions.pm 16:23 owen After fixing Bug 5126, correcting the typo, and manually adding a suggestions notice I was able to modify a suggestion and see the message appear in my message queue table 16:23 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5126 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Suggestions module missing from "add notice" form. 16:25 jwagner Is there a separate bug report/patch for the typo? Or incorporated in one of these? 16:26 * jwagner grumbles that it would have been nice if someone had just responded/updated Bug 4211 when I posted it in February.... 16:26 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4211 major, P2, ---, oleonard, NEW, Acquisitions actions on suggestions don't generate email 16:27 owen I'll attach a patch for the type to Bug 4211 16:27 owen typo. Heh, I had a typo when I was trying to type typo. 16:31 jwagner owen++ for all the investigating and fixing! 16:34 owen Hmmm... but the "suggestion accepted" message in my message queue includes all the placeholders. 16:34 owen <<borrowers.firstname>> <<borrowers.surname>> 16:35 owen That's not correct is it? 16:35 owen The other message in my queue has the real data in it. 16:37 jwagner Depends on how the code was written -- does it know to translate <<borrowers.surname>> etc.? 16:37 owen I'm assuming anything in the message queue table is supposed to be email-ready? 16:38 jwagner Beats me -- that's out of my league :-( 16:38 owen I could actually test the sending... Do you know how to trigger the processing of the message queue? 16:38 jwagner under kohaclone/misc/cronjobs, I think it's perl process_message_queue.pl 16:39 jwagner Assuming you don't have anything sitting in your queue that _shouldn't_ go out, like test overdues 16:39 owen that'd be awesome, wouldn't it? Spamming my entire patron database with a "Is this thing on?" message? 16:39 * jwagner goes to get some lunch, back in a bit 16:39 jwagner It Has Been Known To Happen (not naming names, here....) 16:40 * wizzyrea hides in shame. 16:40 jwagner Actually, that's not who I was thinking of :-) 16:40 wizzyrea but there's nothing better than angry patrons claiming the library has spammed them. 16:40 jwagner There are other guilty parties :-) 16:41 wizzyrea OMG I RETURNED THAT ARE YOU )%$#$%* INCOMPETENT %^*&(#$%*(& 16:41 wizzyrea ...maybe. 16:41 * wizzyrea gets her wolly blanket and starts to suck her thumb 16:42 * jwagner sends wizzyrea some hot chocolate and cookies 16:46 owen No errors from process_message_queue.pl, but no messages either. 16:46 owen On the other hand, I can send a cart just fine so I know some email is working 16:50 owen Oh, status: "failed." 17:09 jwagner Sounds like something's wrong with your email config then. 17:11 sekjal usually if Koha winds up with a 'failed' status, it never got to your email program in the first place. 17:11 sekjal I've found occasions where the to or from addresses aren't populated 17:54 owen sekjal: I noticed that the "from" wasn't populated so I manually updated the message_queue table 17:54 owen sekjal: Any suggestions for where else to look? 17:58 owen Hi schuster 17:59 sekjal owen: so it's still failing after "From" has been populated? 17:59 owen sekjal: Yes 18:00 schuster Hey owen. thanks for the help with jquery yesterday - but is there a reason that doesn't work in ie? it hides published just fine in firefox but still displays in ie... 18:00 schuster catalog.pisd.edu - example 18:00 sekjal owen: hmmm.... will do some checking 18:01 owen schuster: Looks the same to me in Firefox and IE8 18:03 schuster ok so it is an older version of ie almost afraid to tell you which one. 18:04 owen Sorry schuster, IE8 is all I have to test with at the moment 18:04 schuster no problem thanks for looking at least I have some ammunition to tell my boss why it is showing! 18:13 ebegin nice library: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs238.snc4/39250_138946302809494_119071578130300_168594_5926559_n.jpg 18:15 jcamins ebegin: Indeed. Which library is that? 18:16 ebegin Unfortunatly, I dont know... :( 18:18 ebegin ok, it's not a real one. It was a proposal for the Stockholm library: http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=5097 18:20 jcamins Probably a good thing, since all that light would be terrible for the books. 18:28 chris morning 18:32 owen Hi chris 18:50 jcamins Has anyone else installed their Windows security updates this week and had Firefox break? 18:51 jcamins Specifically, had Firefox start freezing when accessing the staff client? 18:55 jcamins If anyone starts experiencing that, apparently killing the plugin-container process will fix it, at least for a little while. 18:57 owen Help with Bug 4211 would be welcomed. It seems like it should be close to working, but my brain is full. 18:57 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4211 major, P2, ---, oleonard, NEW, Acquisitions actions on suggestions don't generate email 18:58 chris now we are finally finished with rfp responses, i might get a chance to look at that today owen 18:59 chris im hoping can organise a lunch with larsw too 18:59 chris :) 19:00 jcamins Does the staff client use Flash? 19:00 chris no 19:00 jcamins That's what I thought. 19:00 larsw hi, chris :) 19:01 jcamins I wonder why Firefox keeps on crashing due to the Flash plugin. 19:02 chris yeah, that doesnt seem right 19:03 * chris doesnt have a windows machine to test with 19:03 jcamins chris: lucky you! 19:04 jcamins I installed Google Chrome, and that seems to work. 19:04 chris chrome is pretty fast 19:05 chris i run chromium at work quite a bit, and it is noticeably faster usng koha with it, than firefox 19:05 chris ok, time to wake the boys up and give them breakfast before work 19:05 chris bbiab 19:25 briceSanc hi all, 19:26 briceSanc I've a question about the relicensing of Koha, is it for Koha 3.2 ? or later ? 19:27 owen 3.4 19:27 owen or later, I suppose, if deliberations drag on 19:27 briceSanc What are the proposals for relicensing (GPL v3?, AGPL?)? 19:28 owen GPL 2+, GPL 3+, AGPL 19:28 briceSanc ok 19:29 briceSanc so Koha 3.2 stay in GPLv2+ !? 19:30 owen Licensing of Koha 3.2 will not be different than previous versions 19:30 briceSanc ok 19:31 briceSanc thanks owen ! 19:34 chris owen: guess what shirt i found in my drawer and decided to wear today 19:34 owen ? 19:35 chris Halloween in Athens 2002 19:35 owen :D 19:35 chris ps the fish you sent for Kahu, has been passed on to Ata 19:35 * owen 's old neon green Koha shirt doesn't have the same shine now that koha.org isn't on our side. 19:36 chris and he loves it just as much as Kahu did 19:36 owen I'm really glad to hear it 19:36 chris yeah, same with my blobby man one 19:36 chris must be time to make some new shirts 19:37 chris ill talk to russ, we got some shirts made for a conference here once, and they were pretty cheap, but lasted well, ill see if i can get some kohacon10 ones done and send one back for you with one of the americans 19:37 * chris_n hates doing network drops 19:38 chris right, time to go wait for the bus, hopefully be back on irc on the phone 19:50 chris Back 20:08 owen Gone! 20:35 richard hi 20:36 chris hi richard 20:36 richard hey chris 20:37 jcamins Hello. 20:37 jcamins And goodbye. 20:38 sekjal have a great weekend everyone! I'm out a little early (heading out of town for my first wedding anniversary). 20:39 chris ohh congrats 20:39 chris have fun 20:39 sekjal thanks, chris. we shall (going camping) 20:39 chris sweet 21:11 briceSanc hi 21:12 briceSanc i unable to make HOLDS 21:12 briceSanc in Opac and Intranet 21:12 briceSanc is there a tip to success ? 21:19 darling wizzyrea, apologies for not being more clear about that line break thing needing a space 21:20 wizzyrea it's ok. though.. fwiw, it's still not working. :( But i'm confident that we *will* get it working 21:26 wizzyrea it's ok darling (hehehehehehehehe.... congratulations for making me giggle) 21:27 darling hehe, happy to 21:27 darling so, what's the symptom at the moment? 21:27 chris darling: wizzyrea is coming to kohacon, so you can hear her giggle in person 21:27 wizzyrea ^^ it's true! 21:28 wizzyrea it should look like this, right: 21:28 wizzyrea RewriteRule ^documentation/3-2-manual/([a-z0-9]+) $documentation/3-2-manual/index.php?ch=$1 [L] 21:28 wizzyrea space $ 21:28 darling yes 21:28 darling do you have access to the apache log? 21:28 wizzyrea yep, sec tho 21:28 darling would be curious to see what it says under the covers about http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/c19#AEN69 21:29 wizzyrea mm hmm 21:31 chris http://koha4arcadialibrary.blogspot.com/2010/08/were-on-our-way.html 21:31 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "yikes" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/43 21:31 wizzyrea bywater++ 21:33 darling interesting 21:34 wizzyrea now, we are using a plugin to include the show docs in the WP page 21:34 wizzyrea so the problem could be there, though it seems rather unlikely 21:35 darling ...thinking 21:35 darling have seen this error before 21:35 wizzyrea oh, never mind, it's an apache thing... also thinking 21:35 darling but only when missing the [L] thing 21:35 wizzyrea do you want the contents of the entire htaccess? 21:36 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted ".htaccess" (27 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/44 21:36 wizzyrea there has to be one in there that's triggering a loop 21:38 darling ah! 21:39 darling RewriteRule ^documentation/3-2-manual/([a-z0-9]+) documentation/3-2-manual/index.php?ch=$1 [L] 21:39 darling instead of- 21:39 darling RewriteRule ^documentation/3-2-manual/([a-z0-9]+) $documentation/3-2-manual/index.php?ch=$1 [L] 21:39 darling i think 21:39 darling actually-- 21:39 darling RewriteRule ^documentation/3-2-manual/([a-z0-9]+)$ documentation/3-2-manual/index.php?ch=$1 [L] 21:39 darling that's what you want, try it anyhow 21:40 wizzyrea k trying 21:40 wizzyrea mmm 404, but that could be something else 21:40 wizzyrea lemme update/redo then I'll try again 21:42 wizzyrea it might be the fu in the updatedocs php 21:42 wizzyrea it's still 404 21:42 wizzyrea sec, lemme look at the html 21:42 wizzyrea to make sure it's right 21:42 wizzyrea oh oh 21:42 wizzyrea oh oh 21:42 wizzyrea sec 21:44 wizzyrea bah, nm 21:44 darling ... 21:45 wizzyrea I thought it was in the show_docs, but the problem isn't there 21:46 darling no, and the actual docs are loading from the right place ok 21:46 darling we're close.. 21:48 darling here's something that will tell us something- 21:48 darling replace our rewrite rule with- 21:49 darling RewriteRule ^documentation/3-2-manual/([a-z0-9]+) http://www.google.com/search?q=$1 [L] 21:50 darling that should show us if it's getting hit and what value $1 is getting set to 21:50 wizzyrea it looks like it's right :/ 21:50 wizzyrea ok, I will be back shortly, gotta go pick up my kiddo 21:51 darling ok 21:51 wizzyrea sorry >.< 22:47 chris koha bugzilla needs an upgrade, so it might go away for a bit 22:48 chris (security fixes) 22:49 bgkriegel when chris? 22:51 chris right about now 22:51 chris well ill yell out before i turn it off 22:51 chris im just reading the patches now 22:52 chris ok patched it 22:52 chris and done 22:52 chris its now 3.6.2