Time  Nick        Message
22:07 pianohack   chris: okay, cool, sounds good
22:07 chris       definitely keep it in git, if and send me a git pull request when you want, ill put it in a new/ branch and we can get people looking/testing ti for 3.4
22:06 pianohack   chris: by the way, do you have any advice on what I might do with our library's custom inventory tool that goes off in a different direction from biblibre's new one?
22:05 pianohack   s/related/unrelated/
22:05 chris       it is pretty neat
22:05 pianohack   I love it so much
22:05 * pianohack might be abusing git rebase --interactive, on a related note
22:04 pianohack   good point
21:58 chris       i hope he doesnt get in trouble for it
21:58 pianohack   community_involvement++
21:57 pianohack   Woo cfouts!
21:07 cait        gmcharlt++ because he was so right about memcache :)
20:59 chris       hi cait
20:59 cait        hi all
20:56 sekjal      and I'm looking forward to the Hackfest
20:56 sekjal      yes
20:54 chris       you saw the programme eh?
20:52 chris       cool :)
20:49 * sekjal    is really starting to get excited about this conference!
20:46 chris       http://booklovers.co.nz/
20:46 chris       and
20:45 chris       http://wotzon.com/eventlisting.php?event_id=5014989
20:45 chris       23th of october
20:42 sekjal      working on my travel plans now
20:42 chris       seems like there were a few events last year
20:42 sekjal      okay, that's about what I figured.
20:41 chris       yeah you might find something at a bar or something, its pretty much a non event here
20:40 sekjal      it's one of my wife's and my favourite holidays, and I'm curious how easy it'll be to find something during KohaCon
20:38 chris       nope, not in nz
20:38 sekjal      chris: is Halloween big in Wellington?
20:32 richard     hi
20:28 owen        Quittin' time for me. See y'all tomorrow.
20:26 chris       thd++ # good reply to david
20:26 chris       but if we dont have a MARC::Record there is no point continuing with the rest of the script
20:25 chris       in the staff side we could redirect to a different page
20:25 chris       in fact
20:24 chris       we need that in details.pl
20:24 chris       }
20:24 chris       exit;
20:24 chris       print $query->redirect("/cgi-bin/koha/errors/404.pl");
20:24 chris       # If we don't have a record, get the hell out, or we will internal server error
20:24 chris       unless ($record){
20:24 chris       from the opac
20:24 chris       in the staff, we assume it exists and proceed according and asplode
20:23 chris       we check the record exists, if it doesnt 404
20:23 chris       in the opac
20:23 owen        And that's with DebugLevel 0
20:23 chris       yeah
20:23 owen        Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/Koha.pm line 1217.
20:23 owen        I get an onscreen error message if I try detail.pl with a non-existent biblionumber
20:22 owen        The DebugLevel preference affects both opac and staff client right?
20:21 chris       do a 404 like the opac would make more sense to me
20:20 chris       instead of the 500 ?
20:17 owen        "detail.pl?biblionumber=some-nonexistent-number"
20:17 owen        Why don't we have sensible error handling for detail pages of missing biblios?
20:08 munin       owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 30.6�C (4:05 PM EDT on July 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady).
20:08 owen        @wunder 45701
20:07 chris       Ok bus stop bbiab
20:07 chris_n     actually higher than that... about 42 C
20:07 * sekjal    checks now
20:07 chris_n     we had a near 41 C day a few weeks back
20:06 chris       They had cheap deals, its a new route for them
20:06 chris       Check virginaustralia
20:06 jcamins     Unless they have a last-minute ridiculous airfare.
20:05 jcamins     :(
20:05 jcamins     I can't afford it.
20:04 chris       :)
20:04 chris       Come to kohacon for a sneak peek
20:02 jcamins     Yet more reason to want to do my PhD in NZ.
20:02 jcamins     That's my kind of weather.
20:01 chris       25 is a hot day
20:01 chris       We might get one day a year that hot
20:00 jcamins     I think that's the coolest it's been in two weeks.
20:00 munin       jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 30.9�C (4:00 PM EDT on July 15, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Falling).
20:00 jcamins     @wunder 11105
20:00 brendan     wow hot here ;)
20:00 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 25.2�C (12:56 PM PDT on July 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling).
19:59 brendan     @wunder 93117
19:59 brendan     burrr
19:59 munin       chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 3.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on July 16, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
19:59 chris       @wunder wellington, nz
19:58 chris       Blue skies here and crisp
19:56 chris       Sounds like it
19:55 chris_n     sweat city
19:55 munin       chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 34.1�C (3:54 PM EDT on July 15, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 9%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Steady).
19:55 chris_n     @wunder 28334
19:53 chris       Heh
19:53 * chris_n   hears his name and wakes up
19:51 chris       And chris_n dealing with them
19:50 chris       For 3.2.1 and 3.2.2 etc
19:49 chris       Well bugs will still be going for 3.2
19:47 schuster    Just a suggestion.  In 4 weeks we might be singing 3.4 right?
19:47 chris       Back from the bus
19:41 owen        I don't know, I don't mind that it's placed in the context of now.
19:40 schuster    good job...  You might change this -  It’s going into 3.2 as it would be just into the next release wouldn't it?
19:37 owen        http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=555
19:36 schuster    post? where?
19:36 chris       bus time
19:34 chris       very good post :)
19:34 owen        Post updated. Any other comments/corrections welcome, here or on the post itself
19:32 schuster    and if they can poor concrete on it they will.
19:32 schuster    Life is a bit flat here.
19:31 pianohack   schuster: Except the terrain. Coming from a town surrounded on three sides by hills, I could not tell the two sides of that highway near KohaCon '09 apart for the life of me
19:30 pianohack   schuster: I will send you a couple screenshots here in the near future :)
19:30 schuster    See everything is better in Texas...:O
19:29 schuster    pianohack - curious about how your Inventory is different?  I'm looking to "enhance" the process some in the future. and I am curious about your custom print notices and what is on them.
19:29 chris       bugzilla isnt hosted at catalyst, its on a linode virtual machine in texas :)
19:28 owen        Yes
19:28 chris       owen you about?
19:26 pianohack   Good to know
19:26 jcamins     Check with your librarians first, obviously. Maybe they see things differently.
19:26 pianohack   Okay
19:26 jcamins     pianohack: As a librarian using Koha with local customizations, I would prefer to use the same tool everyone else does, if it can meet my requirements.
19:23 pianohack   (also a custom print notices tool, but that's so library-specific it may not be worth the effort to send it in
19:23 pianohack   Merging the two would be rather difficult. What do you recommend, #koha?
19:23 pianohack   I created a custom inventory tool, before biblibre sent in their mods. It takes a markedly different approach to inventory to theirs
19:21 pianohack   Trying to either send in my library's custom mods or revert them to the community way before a support handover
19:21 pianohack   I'd like to ask some advice on custom modifications, if anyone has any :)
18:49 pianohack   (also... just plain weird)
18:49 pianohack   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Irving#Recurring_themes (mildly NSFW)
18:48 jcamins     Yep.
18:48 owen        I guess I'm lucky I wasn't there
18:47 jcamins     So I won't be reading that book any time soon.
18:47 jcamins     owen: I went to a reading he gave while I was in college. To say I was a little disturbed by his worldview would be a serious understatement.
18:42 pianohack   CAPSLOCK++
18:41 brendan     capslock--
18:41 owen        jcamins: I resisted reading that book for a long time, but when I did I liked it.
18:39 sekjal      I've gotten to the point where my ears hurt, and I cringe, when I read all caps
18:38 jcamins     *read
18:38 jcamins     Oh, and here I was trying to figure out the literary reference. Not having ready any John Irving (and not wanting to change that), it was problematic.
18:37 owen        yeah, but then I went and told someone to turn off their caps lock. There's no going back.
18:36 schuster    Mean - I didn't think that was in your nature...
18:19 owen        Hello. I am mean.
18:17 pianohack   hai owen
18:10 pianohack   CGI797: But to answer your question, YES IT WILL
18:07 owen-away   CGI797: Can you please turn off your caps lock?
18:07 CGI797      CAN I USE MYSQL SDMINISTRATOR IN WINDOWS FOR BACKUP AND MYSQL ADMINSTRATOR FOR DATA RESTORING IN LINUX....WILL IT WORK
18:04 pianohack   CGI797: There are ways to migrate from 2.2 to 3.0, documented on the wiki
18:02 * druthb    glues pianohac*'s feet to the deck, so he can't fall away again.
18:01 CGI797      WANTED TO MIGRATE FROM KOHA 2.2.9 WINDOWS TO KOHA HARLEY...CAN I DO IT EASILY ...WORRY IS WHAT ABOUT EXISTING DATA
18:00 CGI797      HI KOHA FOLKS
17:51 pianohac1   Why in god's name would a wireless driver default to blinking an led (two, on my work laptop) for all network traffic? Does anyone know this? </rant>
17:08 brendan     morning rhcl
17:06 rhcl_away   Hey brendan
16:55 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 21.4�C (9:51 AM PDT on July 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Rising).
16:55 brendan     @wunder 93117
16:55 brendan     morning
16:30 owen        And the fix broke the menu button on the circ screen
16:30 owen        A patch was filed to fix a bug whree the "New patron" menu button was broken on the *patrons* home page
16:28 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5013 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, "New patron" menu button broken on circulation patron select screen
16:28 owen        Tracked down the cause of Bug 5013, the cause was another commit which didn't take circulation.pl into account
16:27 chris_n     feeling ok today?
16:27 chris_n     owen?
16:25 owen        Grr...
15:48 owen        Weird... the "New patron" menu on the circ patron selection screen stopped working
14:28 owen        It's obvious why it was chosen as the default 3.0 manual for koha-community.org
14:27 jwagner     owen, that manual was written by students at Wayne State and posted on koha.org -- looks like it was also picked up for koha-community.org
14:10 owen        Oh, new 3.0 manual on koha-community.org. I hadn't seen that.
14:08 tomascohe   http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2009-07-25
14:08 tomascohe   just found that updatedatabase30.pl is for stable and updatedatabase.plis for HEAD
14:07 owen        Looks custom, I see a lot of embedded CSS from the OpacUserCSS pref
14:06 sekjal      wonder if that's custom, or standard for LLEK?
14:06 owen        That was my example of all-out change-everything customization, and now it's out of date.
14:06 sekjal      owen: oooh, that is nice
14:06 owen        http://poly.kohalibrary.com/
14:05 owen        Ooh, nice clean update to the Bern Dibner Library site. I wonder who did it?
14:02 owen        Thanks schuster I'll update it now
14:02 schuster    http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160 - owen your links are no longer good on this page because liblime.com has secured some places.
14:01 owen        Ah, my search didn't include .inc files. Thanks!
14:00 hdl         koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/cat-toolbar.inc:	        { text: _("Attach Item"), url: "/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/moveitem.pl?biblionumber=<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="biblionumber" -->" },
13:58 owen        Hi hdl, I'm curious about the moveitem script (cataloguing/moveitem.pl) It doesn't seem to be linked to from anywhere?
13:58 tomascohe   ?
13:58 tomascohe   updatedatabase30.pl or updatedatabase.pl
13:58 tomascohe   hi, what script do I need for a database upgrade?
13:58 hdl         here
13:57 owen        hdl here?
13:45 * druthb    waddles
13:43 chris_n     for your morning diversion: "You talk the talk, but do you waddle the waddle?"
13:39 schuster    Can't the staff member just change the url at the beginning to a staff url making it change?
13:37 owen        Lazyweb request: Can someone please create a bookmarklet that will take me from an OPAC record to the corresponding  record in the staff client?
13:31 owen        That was my thought as well--that the staff might be sending carts to patrons
13:31 schuster    hmm owen - I would think the opac otherwise you would be expecting everyone to have staff access but if you build a cart in staff chances are you are sending it to a NON staff member.(teachers in my case)
13:30 sekjal      morning, jcamins!
13:29 jcamins     Good morning, #koha
13:25 owen        When you send a cart from the staff client, should it link back to the staff client or the OPAC?
13:25 owen        When you send a cart from the OPAC it includes a link back to the OPAC for each record.
13:07 owen        I don't think it has any connection to trademarks
13:04 schuster    saw the patent post wonder how that works with trademarks?
12:59 schuster    I'm trying to work within confines and my limitations technologically on what I can do know how webwise(which isn't much...)
12:59 druthb      yep; I'm indexing right now; your test server didn't look like it'd been messed with much in a while-- really, *really* old stuff in there.  May not have all the stylesheets up and breathing by this afternoon, but will be makin' progress on that.
12:57 schuster    druthb - Amy indicated that you would have a test server up and ready for me so that was what I was refering to.  She indicated that I would use the same one, and I had no idea I already had one.
12:57 schuster    owen - But that would be level specific not campus specific, but still a thought...
12:56 schuster    Not to mention my boss wants something more flashy - 21st century...
12:56 owen        schuster: You could do the same content swap in opacmainuserblock that the header does--showing and hiding content based on the css
12:56 schuster    Top-use books at that particular school.  Even to change the Koha logo to their school logo...  Making it "seem" more one site ish.
12:55 schuster    With a cookie that is set as they go to the pac it would allow me to display/search for things specifically at their location.  So if we wanted to highlight a particular research topic and what is available or
12:54 schuster    owen - the reason I bring this up is the ability with 3 different levels and 68 schools to limit some of the default results on the opening Mainuserblock.
12:54 druthb      (Not that I mind talking to you or anything, schuster.  It's just that no one has attempted to get onto my calendar about you.)
12:53 schuster    Oh but they would be soooo colorful!
12:53 * druthb    didn't know she'd been scheduled for one.
12:53 schuster    Hey Ruth...  Looking forward to our discussion today on the phone...
12:53 owen        It's like making rice krispie treats with fruity pebbles. Overkill.
12:53 owen        Putting frosting on a monster cookie is just too much. It's not worth it.
12:52 owen        schuster: I saw in the log you were asking cookie questions, and as a matter of fact I do have some advice
12:50 * druthb    waves to schuster
12:26 munin       owen: |Lupin| was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 1 day, 15 hours, 25 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <|Lupin|> chris: ok, that's nice to read
12:26 owen        @seen |Lupin|
12:08 owen        Has anyone heard of this SYS-TECH before?
12:08 owen        I see this in the log from [my] last night: http://facil.qc.ca/enbref/%EF%BB%BFune-vingtaine-de-c%C3%A9geps-du-qu%C3%A9bec-choisissent-koha-comme-sigb-pour-leurs-biblioth%C3%A8ques
12:08 owen        Nice to read some good news
12:07 owen        That news about software patents in NZ was the first thing I read this morning.
11:47 jwagner     Morning
11:47 Nate        hello everyone!
11:23 chris       http://www.nzcs.org.nz/news/blog.php?/archives/97-.html
11:19 chris       hi druthb
11:17 druthb      howdy, #koha
05:02 greenmang   hi brendan
04:59 brendan     hi greenmang
04:59 munin       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 21.0�C (9:59 PM PDT on July 14, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Rising).
04:59 brendan     @wunder 93117
04:56 munin       greenmang: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 29.0�C (9:40 AM IST on July 15, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
04:55 greenmang   @wunder mumbai
04:24 brendan     don't worry munin - you're still great too
04:24 * brendan   - ahhh  I like the chanserver
04:14 chris       hi brendan
04:02 brendan     evening
01:46 chris       hei konei ra
01:45 CALYX       must fly ... A bientot!
01:44 CALYX       Absolument!
01:43 chris       (With one typo .. but great news)
01:43 chris       a nice article in french :)
01:43 CALYX       hi Chris
01:43 chris       there you go then
01:43 CALYX       irma
01:43 chris       http://facil.qc.ca/enbref/%EF%BB%BFune-vingtaine-de-c%C3%A9geps-du-qu%C3%A9bec-choisissent-koha-comme-sigb-pour-leurs-biblioth%C3%A8ques
01:43 chris       is it bob or irma?
01:42 chris       if you want to get listed, you email the main mailing list
01:42 chris       yeah same for support listing, if you want it changed
01:41 CALYX       ok. So not just for news items... "If you would like to have your news items listed on our site, please email Liz"
01:40 chris       her email is there
01:40 chris       http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/
01:40 CALYX       thanks Chris
01:39 chris       liz
01:39 CALYX       thanks
01:39 CALYX       who should I send the changes to?
01:37 CALYX       I wish to edit the text re calyx services here http://koha-community.org/support/
01:36 CALYX       hi all