Time  Nick      Message
23:57 chris     chris_n: the comment seems bang on
23:55 Nate      see yas lata
23:55 Nate      ok time for a post gym shower and some grub
23:52 Nate      hiya chris!
23:52 chris     hi Nate
23:52 chris     indeed
23:51 chris_n   hmm... interesting parallel that article
23:43 bankhead  signoff
23:13 brendan   wow and heh
22:55 chris     quick play, nothing too indepth
22:55 chris     luckily 99% of the developers don't do it that way
22:55 richard   chris: did you ever have a play with kakama? i'm just updating a wodge of documentation for it
22:54 richard   yeah
22:54 chris     down to the 6months bit
22:53 chris     rings too many bells
22:53 chris     wow, that comment
22:52 chris     yeah open core
22:49 reed      http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1718494&cid=32900722
22:49 reed      situations not to get ourselves into -- http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/07/13/2358224
21:53 chris     np
21:53 cait      sorry - really wanted to write a bug report, but it got a bit lost on my todo list
21:51 chris     ill try to remember
21:51 cait      when you write a letter to translators perhaps you can add a hint
21:51 cait      and translators need to know they dont have to copy web-services.pref#OAI-PMH# over to the translation - took me some time to figure out how to remove them from my completed installation
21:49 chris     k
21:49 cait      like: web-services.pref#OAI-PMH# <a href=\"http://www.openarchives.org/pmh/\">OAI-PMH</a> server.
21:47 chris     he wrote that
21:47 chris     cait: might be the script to create the .po files is wrong, ill ask frederic to look at it
21:47 cait      I had not enough time for testing yesterday, but I think the problem is for strings which contain urls and '' or ""
21:47 chris     or at least i hate how slow it is
21:47 cait      some strings seem to reappear again and again as untranslated
21:46 chris     i hate pootle
21:46 cait      no problem, I think there is a problem with prefs
21:46 chris     ill try to do that tonight
21:46 chris     no sorry
21:46 cait      chris: have you updated the translation files yet?
21:44 martinmor many thanks :)
21:44 chris     yep that works better :)
21:44 martinmor sudo apt-get install libcgi-session-serialize-yaml-perl
21:44 martinmor did it the ubuntu way
21:44 martinmor perfect,thank you :)
21:42 chris     then see if that fixes your error
21:42 chris     sudo cpan CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml
21:42 chris     right can you try
21:41 martinmor in the db i believe
21:41 chris     where are you storing sessions? in the db or on the file system
21:40 martinmor the config files all seem fine so just wondering what might cause it
21:40 martinmor found i'd lose some modules weirdly, so reinstalled them, now i've got this message
21:39 martinmor it's worked fine until i upgraded a few bits on the machine (it's a test installation)
21:39 martinmor 3.04
21:39 cait      fresh install? which version?
21:38 martinmor Can anybody advise?
21:38 martinmor Hello, I'm being thick and not understanding why I've started getting a "Auth ERROR: Cannot get_session() at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 601" error on my koha login screen
21:23 chris     yeah
21:22 cait      ok, I think I tried longer than that
21:21 chris     should be 10 minutes
21:21 chris     seconds
21:21 cait      chris: 600 - seconds? minutes?
21:16 cait      gmcharlt: yay! the acq framework is working in my test installation - will write my coworker about memcache - thx :)
20:59 cait      hi reed
20:59 reed      good morning
20:46 cait      I tried to refresh the site for a longer time
20:46 chris     heh
20:46 cait      spent the evening with twilight 3 in the cinema - it was great to forget about acq and the presentation for some time :)
20:45 chris     if thats not expiring, we need to turn that off
20:45 chris     hmm memoize_memcached( 'GetMarcStructure', memcached => $memcached, expire_time => 600 );
20:44 cait      gmcharlt: thx! :)
20:44 cait      definitely no memchache installed
20:44 cait      im configuring my test installation on laptop right now to see if it shows up here
20:44 chris     if not thats ill send a patch for that right now
20:43 chris     hmm that should only be cached for 10 mins max?
20:43 cait      gmcharlt: ok, will write my coworker a mail -no access to the server
20:43 chris     and
20:43 gmcharlt  cait: the 'ACQ' framework is definitely a memcached thing - you have to bounce it (/etc/init.d/memcached restart) as a workaround
20:42 cait      nad?
20:42 chris     nad ported back to the rel_3_2 branch
20:42 chris     but it could make 3.2.1, as long as it committed to master
20:41 chris     oh yeah, adding back a missing feature wont make 3.2.0
20:41 cait      ah
20:41 cait      I hoped so, but we have string freeze too
20:41 chris     :)
20:41 chris     we only have to persuade chris_n
20:41 cait      hope you can persuade galen :)
20:41 chris     thats fixing a regression
20:41 chris     yes
20:40 cait      *sighs* thought so. Can a lost feature count as bug fix?
20:40 chris     if they dont make 3.2.0, im sure we can get them 3.2.1
20:40 chris     but bug fixes, yeah
20:40 chris     no new features before 3.4
20:40 chris     which acq features?
20:39 cait      any chance to get the acq features before 3.4?
20:38 cait      the acq framework makes me wonder, I tried looking at the code, but no idea what is wrong
20:38 chris     cool
20:37 cait      the shipping cost, I was thinking wrong
20:37 cait      chris: got it
20:37 chris     no trick that im aware of
20:37 cait      now I broke my promise :) did you do something to make that work? or is there a trick? I added a framework called ACQ but still got the error message in acq
20:36 chris     all items? you only enter it for the items you have received
20:36 cait      oh, and I had problems with the acq framework
20:35 cait      what happens if I dont receive all items at once?
20:35 chris     and it adds it to the orderline in aqorders
20:35 chris     yep, you enter it as a per item cost
20:35 cait      I think I saw something on a invoice called shipping
20:35 chris     yes
20:34 cait      ah, shipping cost?
20:34 cait      now I forgot my second question
20:34 chris     http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-catalyst.git;a=history;f=acqui/spent.pl;h=3f437d47c9e5fbb6acbedc042c1e15b5fef0fa72;hb=refs/heads/hlt
20:33 chris     ah ok
20:33 cait      they got lost with new acq, I remembered those links from my first tests with koha
20:33 cait      I think they were in 3.0 too
20:32 chris     yes
20:32 cait      I think its a real important feature
20:32 cait      ah, so it was you :)
20:32 chris     i think i sent a patch if i didnt i certainly will
20:32 chris     yeah, they were in 2.2 got lost in 3.0 im bringing them back
20:31 chris     ah the spent and ordered links?
20:31 cait      but I dont see these links in my installation
20:31 cait      ok, on the start page of acq - joann showed me the links to lists for items bought and ordered from a fund
20:30 chris     hehe fire away cait
20:30 chris     heya richard
20:30 richard   hi
20:29 cait      ok, 2 question, but not more - promise
20:29 cait      can I ask you a follow up question about acq?
20:28 cait      hi chris
20:28 chris     back
20:26 cait      :)
20:26 cait      hi #koha
20:19 chris     Bus stop brb
20:18 chris     On another website I work on
20:18 chris     We do that for weather
20:18 chris     Yes
20:12 schuster  Thinking outloud...  Trying to be fancy, but my skills lack.
20:11 schuster  question for??  owen maybe...  If I was able to write a cookie with a location code and we could use js or??  to read it and then display the appropriate image where the Koha logo was?
20:06 chris     Back too
20:06 chris     Baxk
19:45 dpavlin   cool. I have few more mintor changes, mostly autocomplete="off" and some SIP2 fixes which I still need to push so our production is in-sync (err, working :-) with master
19:45 chris     will try to be back on from the bus
19:45 chris     ok time to take the rubbish out and catch my bus
19:44 chris     yup
19:44 owen      Sending it to koha-patches gets it to the RM, and attaching it to the bug report lets others easily find it and see it
19:44 chris     koha-patches is the canonical place
19:43 dpavlin   yap, and sent it to koha-patches and that seems redundant
19:43 chris     yeah, that is always handy
19:42 owen      dpavlin: You attached the patch itself to the bug report right? That's what I do.
19:41 dpavlin   should I attach a diff to bug if I'm sending it to koha-patches?
19:41 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4993 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, ldap search always anonymous when using auth_by_bind
19:41 dpavlin   on unrelated note, is there anything else I can do for my LDAP bug fixes? Bug 4993 and friends?
19:37 chris     if a library wants that, they need to deal with their HR problem :-)
19:37 chris     i wouldnt go that low :)
19:37 dpavlin   s/changes/permissions/
19:37 dpavlin   but, I hope we don't need changes for each field, right? ;-)
19:37 chris     its not so bad
19:36 dpavlin   I still didn't ready any of koha code which deals with permissions, but it seems I will have to...
19:36 chris     so it would make sense to me to be able to restrict that to certain staff members
19:36 chris     ie they actually live at the address they changed it to :)
19:35 chris     moderating changes needs someone who knows how to verify the change is non dangerous
19:35 chris     so you might only have some librarians who can view the members page only, others who can make changes, others who can moderate
19:35 dpavlin   actually, something along the lines of members/proposedchanges.pl?change=42 since changes have autoincrementing number :-)
19:34 chris     then you can put granular permissions on it
19:34 dpavlin   I looked at wrong tab when trying to construct URL :-) members/proposedchanges.pl?borrowernumber=123435 it is!
19:34 owen      That's what I was thinking of
19:34 dpavlin   yap.
19:34 chris     somethign like that
19:33 chris     members/proposedchanges.pl?borrowernumber=123435
19:33 owen      I thought we were talking about means for the staff to apply changes
19:33 chris     members/proposedchanges.pl
19:33 owen      If you're talking about opac pages then I'm very confused.
19:33 chris     that would make sense to me
19:33 chris     back
19:33 dpavlin   oh, something like opac-proposedchanges.pl ?
19:32 dpavlin   because that's the page you want to receive in e-mail.
19:32 owen      The page is itself!
19:32 dpavlin   yap. and my doubt is where to put that page :-)
19:31 owen      dpavlin: Wouldn't that be a separate page?
19:31 dpavlin   but, I would need a bit more screen space for interface which parts of change to accept
19:30 dpavlin   another was to have "3 proposed changes" under Details with dialog message.
19:29 dpavlin   one was to use tab (which I don't like but has easy URL for e-mail)
19:29 dpavlin   sorry, I intermixed two ideas
19:27 owen      What purpose would that serve?
19:27 owen      I'm not sure why you would need a tab alongside "checkouts" "fines" and "holds"
19:26 dpavlin   but somehow putting proposed changes inside details make sense. If they are applied, they will show up in Modification Log.
19:25 dpavlin   links on the left can be addressed via url (which is handy for e-mail links)
19:25 dpavlin   err... 3 proposed changes :-)
19:25 owen      I'm thinking of a tab in the left-hand menu where you see "check out", "details," etc.
19:24 dpavlin   something like "3 updates"
19:24 dpavlin   or down after 0 holds?
19:24 owen      And then if there is also a page of past updates, you can add a tab on the left
19:23 dpavlin   owen: yap. makes sense.
19:23 owen      ...and link "pending updates" to the interface for applying the changes
19:23 owen      <div class="dialog message">This patron has pending updates</div>
19:22 owen      I suggest a message box at the top of the moremember.pl
19:21 dpavlin   url: /cgi-bin/koha/members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=42
19:21 dpavlin   alternative is as tab on the bottom of Details which is probably more sane :-)
19:21 owen      What is "patrons admin interface" ? Which page?
19:20 dpavlin   (as a tab on the left if that makes sense)
19:20 dpavlin   Below Details in Patrons admin interface?
19:19 owen      And this would be where?
19:18 dpavlin   so better name would be "Pending detail changes" or something similar...
19:18 dpavlin   owen: as far as I can tell, Modification log will get applied changes if I update it through Koha modules, but I might be wrong on that.
19:16 owen      dpavlin: There is already a "Modification log" menu item for patron records. I'm not sure how those two should coexist
19:16 jwagner   I'd keep them separate -- some sites might not want to allow changes but still allow display of account details.
19:14 dpavlin   would Details Changes tab under Patrons in admin interface be the right place for it or should it be part of details view?
19:14 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1153 minor, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, opac-userupdate.pl update to allow moderation, and templatize
19:14 owen      Thanks dpavlin, I've been asking for this kind of thing since Bug 1153
19:10 gmcharlt  and one addition the user interface that would be nice - being able to revert back to an older address and/or phone number
19:10 dpavlin   chris: ack
19:10 chris     bbiab
19:10 chris     but now i must go get my son ready for kindergarten
19:09 chris     i can push up in the new/ branch when you are ready for a git pull, then it can track master and be ready to go in for 3.4
19:09 dpavlin   email for example, is called emailaddress in form.
19:09 gmcharlt  there should be a FK between borrower_updates.borrowernumber and borrowers.borrowernumer
19:09 jwagner   But it would be great if the email only listed the changes, not the entire record.
19:09 dpavlin   funny thing about table name: I originaly called it borrower_changes, but decided to stick with script name since all fields are not the same.
19:09 dpavlin   well, I think that e-mail notification should be system preference, and web interface can be primary one
19:09 chris     yep sounds good
19:08 gmcharlt  I can think of a few quibbles - userupdate should probably be named borrower_updates to be consistent with the other table names
19:08 jwagner   Re-reading, it looks like you're trying to do away with that email altogether?
19:08 gmcharlt  dpavlin: yes, I think you're movng in a fruitful direction
19:07 dpavlin   and log of all changes is also useful since I'm replicating from LDAP, and I can push changes back to LDAP if I have changes.
19:07 jwagner   dpavlin, one of my sites was just complaining about the opac-userupdate this morning -- the email it generates doesn't make it clear what the changes are and is generally confusing to the librarian.  Are you doing any work on that part too?
19:07 dpavlin   hack, I can even include link in outgoing e-mail :-)
19:07 dpavlin   next step would be to create user interface so that librarians can approve or deny changes (just like they do now)
19:06 dpavlin   code is at http://git.rot13.org/?p=koha.git;a=log;h=refs/heads/rt-431-userupdate
19:06 dpavlin   I added userupdate table in which I store all form fields before sending e-mail out
19:05 owen      Interesting dpavlin, how do the changes get from the log into the patron records?
19:05 gmcharlt  dpavlin: do you mean modifying opac-userupdate to change the patron records directly?  or to store a queue of changes for the librarians to review and apply later?
19:05 dpavlin   I should probably rephrase that, because my non-native language shows all over :-)
19:04 dpavlin   is invaluable for us (it currently sends e-mail out which needs to be manually copy/pasted back into koha)
19:04 owen      opac-userupdate.pl doesn't actually update anything
19:04 dpavlin   We will have ~1200 students entrolling during next two weeks, and logging changes of user info
19:03 chris     logging what?
19:03 dpavlin   I'm modifing opac-userupdate.pl to include logging into userupdate table
18:20 jwagner   Yeah, he'd be the best person to answer.
18:20 wizzyrea  thanks, sorry to bother. :)
18:20 wizzyrea  Or I can just email patrick directly I guess :) I'll do that
18:19 jwagner   Beats me -- I don't handle the website.  Want to email me & I can forward it?
18:19 wizzyrea  or both.
18:19 wizzyrea  instead of koha.ptfs.com
18:19 wizzyrea  question: Is PTFS using the liblime.com website for their koha products?
18:18 jwagner   What's up?
18:18 jwagner   more or less
18:18 wizzyrea  jwagner: about?
18:02 jwagner   Yep, I've dealt with IT people like that.  In one job I had to _fight_ to get server level access, which was required for 9/10ths of my job! (Unicorn admin)
18:01 schuster  The techies are not in education and keep locking things down tighter so that "Instructional Tech" has their hands tied and can do very little.
18:00 joetho    <-- used to be a school tech coordinator. All Powerful.
18:00 joetho    <--- dreaming
18:00 joetho    they should be begging YOU for tips on getting z39 to work.
17:59 jwagner   A mace? or whatever those things are with the spikes on the ball?
17:59 schuster  May need a bludgeoning device.
17:59 * jwagner offers schuster a sword and shield
17:58 schuster  I know my ports and my database so just trying to put my armor on before talking techie...
17:58 jwagner   Not sure how that was set up, but the theory should be the same.  For a cataloging z39.50, the port number depends on the target.  For example, Voyager sites usually use port 7090, OCLC uses 210, etc.
17:57 schuster  jwagner - thanks I thought that would be enough, but just wanted to make sure before I ask and then have to go begging back.
17:56 schuster  I saw a demonstration at ALA where Novel list had been incorporated into some catalogs so series, and author info was linked via Z39.50.
17:56 jwagner   So in your case you'd ask for port whatever (what the target uses) to be opened outgoing from your server to the target's address.  That should be tight enough for them.
17:55 jwagner   If so, I think it should be enough to open an outgoing port.  The firewall should recognize that the initial request goes out, then brings data back.
17:55 schuster  My networking people don't understand Z39.50 so I need to break it down so I understand what I am presenting and requesting.  We are really tight and currently only port 80 or 8080 are open through the proxy and firewall.
17:55 jwagner   schuster, are you talking about firewall settings?
17:54 schuster  I have a Z39.50 question.  When using it to search other sources two way communication is necessary on the appropriate port and access to the biblios database?
16:55 cait      bye again :)
16:55 cait      ok, time to catch my bus
16:45 cait      and I gave up on the acq framework
16:45 cait      they were on the acq start page in 3.0
16:44 cait      I'm missing some links to lists with ordered / shipped books in acq
16:43 cait      not sure about that
16:38 owen      Maybe I just don't want that city listed when adding a patron
16:37 owen      It's not like you can't put in a city name by hand without it being in the cities list
16:37 owen      Why does admin/cities.pl check for a count of instances in borrowers when deleting a city?
16:33 * chris_n too
16:32 cait      chris_n still worth a try - sometimes I wonder when chris actually sleeps :)
16:31 chris_n   too early cait
16:31 cait      chris: around?
16:16 owen      I wonder why it outputs all those vendor details? Seems superfluous
16:15 * owen    had never seen the "uncertain prices" page until today
16:03 bcaudill  hiya
16:02 druthb    welcome, bcaudill.
16:02 kf        time to leave, bye all :)
15:43 chris_n   ahh.. found it, only it wasn't in that section of code, but another closely related
15:42 owen      chris_n: I had a similar experience yesterday... thinking, "Didn't I work on this once before?"
15:40 chris_n   interesting... now I cannot seem to find the work I did in that area... :-P
15:35 kf        not sure, but you confuse me too :)
15:34 chris_n   man, where was I?
15:34 kf        not sure, we are running 3.01.61
15:34 chris_n   it must have been added recently?
15:33 * chris_n was just fixing to correct that
15:33 kf        and I think we did, because I got no complaints :)
15:32 kf        chris_n: I think you can upload passwords for users
15:30 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5003 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Can not search for organisation by name
15:30 kf        bug 5003
15:30 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5002 minor, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, No error message if category code already exists
15:30 kf        bug 5002
15:19 kf        thx :)
15:16 owen      System Administration in this case I think
15:16 owen      Use the component specific to the page you were on
15:15 kf        which component for missing error messages in bugzilla? (no error message when adding patron category with existing category code)
14:55 CGI184    Thanks for the reply though
14:55 CGI184    Gotcha.  I'm just trying to find a way to quickly pull multiple records into a batch and print labels for them.
14:53 kf        CGI184: sorry, never worked with the labels module
14:52 CGI184    kf/owen: any ideas on the issue?
14:49 CGI184    kf/owen: When you create patches of items for which you are going to print labels, there is an option to search by when the item was added.  However, this function does not seem to be working
14:43 kf        :)
14:43 kf        hmpf.
14:43 * owen    throws confetti for kf
14:42 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5000 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Uncertain prices misses option to choose display language
14:42 kf        bug 5000
14:35 CGI184    It seems that it is just not possible (at the moment) to print barcode titles or authors for books whose bibliographic records include any diacriticals.  Does that sound correct?
14:34 owen      I'm moving on to the staff client
14:33 owen      gmcharlt: I just sent a patch updating the OPAC for the default_encoding=HTML
14:29 CGI184    much appreciated, chris_n
14:28 CGI184    thanks for the help
14:28 chris_n   ok, gotta get back to a balky kerberos server
14:28 chris_n   that's what I suggested above, but I've never done it myself
14:28 CGI184    could I export the barcodes from Koha into csv and then convert that into open office or something else?
14:27 chris_n   correct
14:26 CGI184    chris_n: so there is no way to print barcodes in csv, right?
14:26 chris_n   its up to whatever you import the csv into to handle the barcode generation at that point
14:26 chris_n   csv is text based, the barcodes are graphic objects
14:24 CGI184    understood.  New question: why do the actual barcodes no show up when I export them via csv?  they show up in pdf
14:22 * chris_n does not have time for that, though
14:22 chris_n   and then integrating that into Koha
14:21 chris_n   CGI184: probably the correct solution would require writing a perl library to create pdfs which correctly implemented the specs
14:20 CGI184    bummer
14:20 chris_n   however, we were unable to use it for our Korean collection
14:20 atz       CSV export is the most reliable
14:20 CGI184    (*option)
14:19 * chris_n printed nearly 7K labels with that code
14:19 CGI184    I'm using Koha's label creator and pdf just happened to be the optiom which displayed the most content most accurately
14:18 chris_n   I'd have to see the contents of the pdf to be sure
14:18 CGI184    Related question, if there are no diacriticals in the title, why is Koha still not able to export to pdf?
14:17 chris_n   I think you need a barcode font, but I'm not sure about that
14:16 CGI184    I do have many...I wouldn't mind doing it that way but the barcode never seems to show up in open office
14:16 chris_n   but that makes for a lot of work if you have many
14:16 chris_n   CGI184: you could export your labels as a csv file and then use a template in open office or some other similar app to do your labels
14:15 atz       there are too many proprietary PDF generators for me to decide that definitively, but I certainly dislike the PDF implementation specs
14:14 CGI184    I see
14:14 chris_n   aamof, I tend to think that there is no good solution for unicode in PDF in general
14:13 chris_n   tends even
14:13 * chris_n tend to agree
14:13 atz       there is absolutely no good solutions for unicode PDF generation via perl
14:13 chris_n   yup
14:13 CGI184    the breve
14:13 CGI184    right.
14:13 chris_n   Chŏng-sin (the mark above the 'o')
14:12 chris_n   but at present there is no solution for it
14:12 CGI184    chris_n: diacriticals?
14:12 chris_n   probably the diacriticals are causing the problem
14:11 pastebot  "CGI184" at 207.239.61.162 pasted "Hanʼguk Kidokkyosa insik / Bi" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/30
14:10 kf        can someone else try to add an acq framework for acquisitions?
14:09 chris_n   unicode and pdf do not get along well and the solution is a bit complicated
14:09 chris_n   CGI184: most likely it is not fixable, however, can you post the record for the item you are trying to print the label for?
14:08 CGI184    Ah, so what can be done?
14:08 chris_n   CGI184: this is an encoding problem
14:06 pastebot  "CGI184" at 207.239.61.162 pasted "%PDF-1.4 %âãÏÓ 4 0 obj<</T" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/29
14:05 chris_n   ok
14:05 CGI184    christ_n: no, I sent the wrong file...the correct file will be up in one second
14:04 chris_n   [off] CGI184: send an example pdf to chris.nighswonger@gmail.com
14:03 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4999 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, OPAC error pages have incorrect markup structure
14:03 chris_n   bug 4999
14:02 chris_n   CGI184: that is the complete contents of the pdf when you open it in a plain text editor?
14:01 owen      It may actually be invalid. I could use another set of eyes on that one
14:00 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4000 normal, P5, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, NEW, Budgets table doesn't show tree view for sub-budgets
14:00 magnus    bug 4000 - just curious
13:59 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6000 was not found.
13:59 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5000 was not found.
13:59 owen      If I could pick the prize it would be that bug 5000 get fixed before someone files bug 6000
13:59 CGI184    chris_n: let me know what you think.
13:58 jwagner   Is there a prize? TV cameras and confetti?
13:58 pastebot  "CGI184" at 207.239.61.162 pasted ""Tales of Korean folk painting" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/28
13:58 owen      The next lucky bug finder gets bug number 5000
13:46 munin     druthb: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 12:04 PM, June 03, 2009)
13:46 druthb    @quote random
13:43 chris_n   also, I'd recommend updating to 3.0.6
13:43 chris_n   CGI184: please open the pdf in a plain text editor and post the contents to paste.koha-community.org
13:41 kf        gmcharlt: is there something I can do to find out?
13:40 CGI184    chris_n: I'm going to lock off and then back on again quickly
13:40 CGI184    chris_n: I'm running Koha 3.01 and when I export batches of labels to a PDF in order to print it says ~"There has been an error.  the file is damaged and cannot be opened"
13:36 gmcharlt  kf: stepping through it, I'm pretty sure it is indeed a caching issue
13:35 munin     wizzyrea: Quote #85: "owen: Nothing says embracing my geekness like participating in an IRC meeting about software licenses!" (added by kf at 08:23 AM, July 14, 2010)
13:35 wizzyrea  @quote get 85
13:32 chris_n   CGI184: what version of Koha are you running and what error are you receiving?
13:29 CGI184    I've been able to include the titles of regular English-language materials but not Korean-language materials which have romanized titles, i.e. Korean titles written not in Korean script but in the Roman/English alphabet
13:28 kf        gmcharlt: I even checked the database tables
13:27 kf        gmcharlt: yes
13:27 CGI184    So I'm trying to print out barcode labels which include bibliographic info, such as title, author, etc., on them
13:26 gmcharlt  the framework code is 'ACQ', I assume?
13:25 kf        I tried looking at the code, but there was nothing obviously wrong (for me)
13:25 gmcharlt  either wait 10 minutes or bounce memcached
13:25 kf        gmcharlt: what could I do if memcached was th problem?
13:25 CGI184    Hey, chris_n
13:25 chris_n   hi CGI184
13:24 CGI184    Or does anyone else know much about printing barcodes and labels?
13:23 CGI184    chris_n: are you around?
13:22 kf        but this is one of our isntallations at work
13:22 kf        gmcharlt: I'm pretty sure that no
13:22 gmcharlt  kf: are you using memcached?
13:22 kf        jwagner: the code is ACQ, this seems to be what is needed, but I still get the message in acq that none exists
13:21 kf        jwagner: I created a framework, but acq is not ussing it
13:19 owen      Wow, changing the templates' default encoding causes some unexpected and catastrophic errors. Fun!
13:19 jwagner   kf, is the problem in creating the framework? Or in getting acquisitions to use it?
13:17 kf        just thought you perhaps worked with it
13:17 kf        no problem
13:16 nengard   kf - in training right now and can't help out ... maybe someone else can?
13:16 kf        nengard: I have problems adding an ACQ framework - perhaps an idea what could be wrong? my frameworkcode is ACQ and I tried FA and Default as base frameworks
13:14 CGI916    hi
13:13 CGI916    hi
13:13 kf        hi nengard
13:01 kf        not sure what my mistake is
13:00 kf        has someone added an acq framework for acquisitions? I tried but its not used in acq
12:58 jwagner   OK, we may give it a try.  Thanks.
12:57 gmcharlt  up to you; if you want to test as well, great
12:56 jwagner   So we shouldn't use the patches as posted to the bugzilla report?
12:55 gmcharlt  I'm in the process of testing some patches for it
12:54 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3536 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Checked In item requiring transfer does not consistently trigger transfer prompt
12:54 jwagner   Hi there.  Do you know what the status is of Bug 3536?
12:53 gmcharlt  hi jwagner
12:53 jwagner   gmcharlt, online?
12:49 * magnus  thinks having a csv2marc script in koha is a good idea
12:48 owen      Now only two bugs away :P
12:36 * jwagner hunts around for bugs....
12:35 owen      Only three bugs away from Bug number 5000
12:25 munin     jwagner: Error: "must" is not a valid command.
12:25 jwagner   munin must not be sharing the geekiness
12:25 munin     jwagner: Error: The "Quote" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "#85" in it.  Try "list Quote" to see the commands in the "Quote" plugin.
12:25 jwagner   @quote #85
12:23 munin     kf: Error: "quote" is not a valid command.
12:23 kf        @quote
12:23 munin     kf: Error: The "Quote" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "85" in it.  Try "list Quote" to see the commands in the "Quote" plugin.
12:23 kf        @quote 85
12:23 munin     kf: The operation succeeded.  Quote #85 added.
12:23 kf        @quote add owen: Nothing says "embracing my geekness" like participating in an IRC meeting about software licenses!
12:22 owen      Nothing says "embracing my geekness" like participating in an IRC meeting about software licenses!
12:20 kf        :)
12:20 jwagner   kf, some of us do that every day :-)
12:19 kf        oh, yesterday was  "embrace your geekness day"
12:17 jwagner   Happy Bastille Day, paul!
12:10 kf        hi owen
12:09 jwagner   Morning, owen
12:05 owen      Hi #koha
11:54 jwagner   Morning, kf
11:53 kf        hi jwagner
11:48 munin     jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 21.3�C (7:48 AM EDT on July 14, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Steady).
11:48 jwagner   @wunder 20817
11:43 munin     kf: The current temperature in Bodensee, Ramsen, Germany is 29.7�C (1:01 PM CEST on July 14, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady).
11:43 kf        @wunder singen germany
11:43 munin     kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 28.8�C (1:43 PM CEST on July 14, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady).
11:43 kf        @wunder Konstanz
11:36 druthb    hi, kf! :D
11:36 kf_lunch  hi druthb ;)
11:16 druthb    hello, #koha
10:47 * chris   settles in to watch a little bit of the tour before sleep
10:47 chris     yep
10:34 chilts    chris: hey, that's awesome news for galen and Equinox!
08:21 kf        jransom: still around?
08:21 kf        chris: thx!
08:19 chris     ill try to take a look tomorrow
08:18 chris     hmm nope, havent bumped into that one yet
08:18 munin     kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 25.0�C (10:00 AM CEST on July 14, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
08:17 kf        @wunder Konstanz
08:12 munin     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4438 major, P5, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED, incorrect "Budget total exceeds period allocation" error when editing fund
08:12 kf        chris: do you have one for bug 4438?
08:12 chris     http://www.esilibrary.com/esi/newsitem.php?id=134
08:12 chris     you guys see this?
08:11 kf        hi
08:10 chris     i sent some patches today kf, that fix a couple of things, i have another one thats to do with tax and exchange rate conversions
08:09 jransom   kf is wondering about acquisitions
08:09 jransom   hiya
08:08 chris     hi kf
06:53 kf        morning
06:10 cait      hi Ropuch
06:08 Ropuch    Good morning
06:05 cait      good morning #koha
01:43 chris     ack meeting now
01:42 Joann     back now
01:40 chris     not having much luck though
01:40 chris     im trying to get queens fool to return queen's fool
01:39 chris     hmmm
01:38 * chris_n heads off to read to his 4 year old daughter
01:37 * chris_n would offer chilts some of his land to tend... but... :-)
01:35 chris_n   that looks like a cool idea chilts
01:35 atz       yeah, you'd have to... either that or be feeding an army
01:35 chris_n   but it just got to be too much trouble
01:35 chris_n   you said it... we used to sell a ton of produce
01:34 * andy    wants to do http://www.landshare.net/ for NZ ... I think that'd be awesome
01:32 atz       2.5 acres is friggin' 'uuge
01:30 chris_n   down from 2.5 acres to about 0.75
01:30 chris_n   I'm used to buying in large quantities from Seedway and Johnnies, but this year have cut back dramatically
01:29 atz       rhcl: cool.  strange coincidence too.  no dixies here though.
01:28 rhcl      I'm growing, like I always do, Dixie Golden Giants. I buy my seed from seedsavers.
01:27 chris_n   nice site
01:26 atz       http://www.seedsavers.org/Details.aspx?itemNo=253
01:26 atz       yeah they're a deep maroon color w/ green streaks, so purple is a pretty decent approximation
01:24 chris_n   are they really purple?
01:24 atz       cherokee purple tomatoes are growing like crazy w/ all the rain we've been having... baseball sized already
01:24 chris_n   ahh
01:23 atz       i'm almost exclusively on tomatoes and herbs
01:23 atz       chris_n: no hot peppers at all this year... still have the dried ones strung up from previous years
01:21 * chris_n made omlets with some he grew the other night
01:19 chris     ohh jalapenos
01:18 chris_n   atz: grow any jalapenos this year?
01:04 alan      hi chris
01:04 chris     hey alan