Time  Nick       Message
21:45 brendan    chris
21:45 brendan    later chirs
21:45 chris      right time to take the kids out
21:14 chris      and then drop nancy a note to say we have, she was pretty excited :)
21:14 chris      we need to make sure we note that is is gplv3
21:13 chris      cool :)
21:13 nengard    i can add that link
21:11 chris      that reminds me we should put up the 3.0 docs thingy
21:10 nengard    chris: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commit;h=2ec6d817b2f4f064d46ea2fed59d3d6e78cbd3d5
21:09 nengard    np
21:03 chris      nengard: thanks for the bio and photo
20:59 chris      yeah thats pretty cool
20:55 nengard    i do like how easy it is to link things in the appendix to the right chapter/section
20:52 nengard    the implementation checklist
20:52 pianohack  nengard: What appendix is this, by the way?
20:37 chris      Sweet
20:37 nengard    first secton done - a bunch more to go
20:37 chris      Hehe
20:36 nengard    chris, you know what - good thing i'm doing this it wasn't well written the first time ... maybe cause i didn't write it :) hehe
20:18 * sekjal   just killed zebraqueue daemon for a client not 20 minutes ago
20:17 owen       that's another update the INSTALL.ubuntu file needs then
20:16 chris      yes it is
20:16 owen       Isn't use of the Zebraqueue Daemon now discouraged?
20:13 owen       What else would I do with my day?
20:12 pianohack  Thanks for fixing a bug, anyway :)
20:12 pianohack  Ha, no you weren't, bastard
20:12 * owen     is selfish that way
20:12 owen       pianohack: Except I didn't fix it in the place you were looking at it
20:12 pianohack  owen++
20:11 pianohack  owen: Thanks for fixing that one perl bug magnus and I were poking at
20:09 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4430 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Staff Results Display Showing Wrong Numbers
20:09 owen       Bug 4430 is classified as "normal" but my librarians would call it a blocker
20:06 chris      yay!
20:06 nengard    instead i'll try to re-write the appendix that chris wants in the new manual :)
20:05 chris_n    come on in, the water's fine.. as they say
20:05 nengard    i'm all exhaustipated
20:05 nengard    but i do know that today i won't learn a thing
20:05 nengard    yeah you learn more that way
20:05 chris      :)
20:05 chris      thats the way
20:05 owen       nengard: I've been getting myself into all kinds of Perl trouble this week by tackling bugs over my head
20:04 nengard    just read through the open bug list and nothing looks like something i can tackle ;( will have to look again next week i guess
20:03 * chris_n  looks forward to that module being fixed in 3.4
20:03 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4319 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, waiting items cannot be reserved
20:03 owen       I came out a little wiser I think, and Bug 4319 a little clearer I hope
20:02 chris_n    and it is especially not good this late on Friday
20:02 * chris_n  thinks there is never a good time to sift through C4::Search
19:52 * owen     supposes Saturday morning isn't the right time to be hearing about sifting through Search.pm either ;)
19:49 wizzyrea   there is only "the time I was sifting through Search.pm"
19:49 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4319 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, waiting items cannot be reserved
19:49 * owen     would like Bug 4319 to be fixed though
19:49 jcamins    Have a good weekend, everyone.
19:48 * jcamins  agrees with wizzyrea
19:48 chris      thats all i can promise
19:48 * wizzyrea would venture to say that there isn't a right time
19:48 chris      it will make your brain hurt
19:48 * owen     wonders if Friday afternoon isn't the wrong time to be sifting through Search.pm
19:46 nengard    yeah - got to make an appt first .... a bit too scared to do that part
19:46 chris      nengard: hope the scan results in good news
19:45 pianohack  hello
19:44 nengard    howdy
19:39 owen       Hi chris
19:39 chris      morning
18:45 owen       I think that bug was fixed recently
18:45 collum     but if you save from the results of opac-search it does
18:45 collum     if you save to zotero from opac-detail it does not work
18:45 collum     owen: I just played with zotero at bywater's koha demo
18:19 collum     I'll check when I get home tonight on versions.
18:19 collum     I don't have access to the laptop I was using.  The firefox is the most up-to-date.
18:19 owen       I've got Firefox 3.6.6 and Zotero 2.0.3
18:18 owen       What version of Firefox and what version of the Zotero addon?
18:18 collum     Yep.
18:18 owen       collum: So your Zotero saved the title as "Library Mashups: Exploring New Ways to Deliver Library Data" instead of "Library mashupsexploring new ways to deliver library data"
18:17 collum     hmm?
18:17 owen       Yes
18:17 collum     owen: I played with it the other day and I was unable to duplicate the problem, were you able to?
18:12 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4901 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Title & Subtitle w/out space in Zotero
18:12 * owen     is defeated by bug 4901
17:38 icebreake  :P
17:38 icebreake  that`s why asking. :D
17:38 icebreake  as you people are with open source world
17:38 icebreake  :) i know
17:38 owen       I don't think you'll find any book publishers here :)
17:37 icebreake  just asking
17:37 icebreake  is there any other open source software for book publishers?
17:31 owen       But Koha isn't going to track inventory and sales and stuff like that
17:31 owen       If that's what he wants, then sure.
17:30 owen       icebreake: Koha is designed a library catalog and circulation system
17:29 icebreake  can you guys help me out to find this answer?
17:28 icebreake  the point is.. he don`t need any marc entry there in Koha
17:28 icebreake  i mean.. as a software in book publishing company... is it possible for him to use Koha?
17:28 icebreake  and.. he asked me.. If he can use koha for his publishing business?
17:28 icebreake  last night i was talking about koha
17:28 icebreake  one of my friend has a book publishing company
17:27 icebreake  i have a query
17:27 icebreake  hi all
17:12 munin      druthb: *click*
17:12 druthb     @roulette
16:50 druthb     hrm.
16:50 munin      druthb: *click*
16:50 druthb     @roulette
16:48 sekjal     glad to be of regex service, owen
16:48 owen       Thanks sekjal
16:48 owen       Aha, & followed by not 'a.'
16:47 sekjal     replace either a space or & followed by not 'a' with a plus sign
16:46 owen       O great regex oracle, please help me understand: $coins_value =~ s/(\ |&[^a])/\+/g;
16:43 munin      brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.4�C (9:40 AM PDT on July 09, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Rising).
16:43 brendan    @wunder 93117
16:30 sekjal     argh.  somewhere in the last few weeks, I lost my new Git book
16:26 * jwagner  wonders if an early intervention would help
16:21 gmcharlt   jcamins: welcome to the cult^Wclub :)
16:21 sekjal     jcamins: sure is!
16:21 jcamins    I'm just reading "git from the bottom up," and it's describing all sorts of functionality that I've wished I had.
16:20 jcamins    Wow, git is pretty amazing, isn't it?
16:13 kf         bye all and have a nice weekend
15:47 mib_doj47  um, its already pointing there though, in GRS-1 mode, is there another zebra-authorities-dom.cfg ??
15:44 hdl        mib_doj47: yes you just have to change the koha-conf.xml to point to the zebra-authorities.cfg iirc.
15:36 mib_doj47  no problem.....I will loiter for a while!
15:32 owen       Sorry mib_doj47, it's pretty quiet around here today
15:25 mib_doj47  Afternoon......would anyone be able to point in the right direct to change from GRS-1 to DOM indexing?
15:06 jcamins    Yeah, that's what I was picturing for the "duplicate item" button.
15:06 * owen     will keep refreshing the page every minute to see if someone has fixed it
15:06 owen       Well... at least the bug is there :)
15:05 owen       I was saying a "Save as new" button would be nice when you have an item open for editing
15:05 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4533 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Add "duplicate item" link when editing items
15:05 jcamins    Because it looks like I filed bug 4533 almost two months ago and forgot about it.
15:05 jcamins    owen: was I talking with you about how useful a "duplicate item" button would be?
15:04 wizzyrea   well that is a valid concern
15:04 owen       I wonder if our sense of the injustice would be shared
15:01 wizzyrea   harness the power of reddit users :P
15:01 wizzyrea   http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheNextWeb/~3/Dp7cQYHnvmg/
15:01 wizzyrea   this is the kind of thing we should leverage for further encouraging the use of koha-community.org
14:59 jcamins    We also are well on our way to doing a better job with 76x-78x fields than other ILSes.
14:58 kf         :)
14:57 wizzyrea   of course :)
14:57 owen       I can see the ad copy now: Searches 033!
14:57 jcamins    Which would definitely be a good thing from a PR point of view.
14:57 wizzyrea   in that regard
14:57 wizzyrea   HA. well if we get it fixed, then that would make koha the only ils (that you tested) that follows the standard >.>
14:56 jcamins    So I changed it to a bug. Then I thought I'd see how other ILSes implement it. And it turns out they don't.
14:56 jcamins    I had it marked as an enhancement, but it's definitely a bug, because the standard says that 033 should be searchable.
14:55 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4480 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, MARC21 033 tag and Zebra date indexing
14:55 jcamins    Bug 4480
14:55 wizzyrea   this isn't the "it doesn't read my mind" bug is it? ;)
14:55 wizzyrea   which bug?
14:50 jcamins    My most recent bug report could apparently be applied to just about any ILS.
14:48 wizzyrea   (now I remember, thanks)
14:48 wizzyrea   it would stand to reason, since we pulled this off of a canned report CSV
14:39 jcamins    In this case, the rest of the query is already optimized.
14:39 jcamins    owen's right, not me.
14:39 wizzyrea   ah, thanks you just triggered my memory
14:38 owen       You sometimes see the "1=1" in a script which is building the WHERE statement in pieces and it's not sure how many "AND"s there are going to be
14:38 jcamins    It's a query optimization of some sort, I think.
14:37 wizzyrea   is it shorthand for something?
14:36 wizzyrea   items.location order by itemtype,items.location
14:36 wizzyrea   SELECT itemtype, items.location, COUNT(*) FROM statistics LEFT JOIN borrowers ON statistics.borrowernumber=borrowers.borrowernumber LEFT JOIN items ON statistics.itemnumber=items.itemnumber WHERE 1=1 AND datetime >= concat(date_format(LAST_DAY(now() - interval 1 month),'%Y-%m-'),'01') AND datetime <= LAST_DAY(now() - interval 1 month)AND statistics.branch LIKE '$TOWN' AND statistics.type IN ('issue', 'renew' 'localuse') GROUP BY itemtype,
14:36 wizzyrea   and we cna't remember why we have this 1=1 construct in there
14:36 wizzyrea   we have this report
14:36 wizzyrea   ok, sql nub question
14:29 nengard    owen, not me
14:28 munin      druthb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 30.2�C (10:29 AM EDT on July 09, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady).
14:28 druthb     @wunder 20817
14:28 kf         :(
14:28 munin      kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 31.0�C (4:00 PM CEST on July 09, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
14:28 kf         @wunder Konstanz
13:57 munin      kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 30.0�C (3:58 PM CEST on July 09, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling).
13:57 kf         @wunder Konstanz
13:35 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4079 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Opening system preferences page causes session to lose information
13:35 owen       Does Bug 4079 affect anyone else?
13:08 jwagner    morning
13:06 jcamins_a  Good morning.
12:50 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4451 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Batch item tool cannot process barcode file with Windows line endings
12:50 owen       reading_irc_logs++ # assuming that really was the fix for Bug 4451
12:37 owen       It's only used for payments it seems
12:37 owen       No I take it back
12:37 sekjal     the statistics table is kind of funky
12:37 owen       I don't think it is used
12:35 nengard    and no clue what proccode is
12:34 nengard    they wanted the first day after the 4th
12:34 nengard    they didn't want the 4th
12:34 nengard    SELECT statistics.type as action, COUNT(statistics.datetime) as count FROM statistics WHERE DATE(statistics.datetime)='2010-07-06' GROUP BY statistics.type;
12:33 druthb     naah, it's just early.
12:31 nengard    i'm an idiot
12:31 nengard    nevermind
12:30 nengard    SELECT statistics.proccode as action, COUNT(statistics.datetime) as count FROM statistics WHERE DATE(statistics.datetime)= '2010-07-04' GROUP BY statistics.proccode
12:30 nengard    if i want a count of circ stats for the 4th of july - what is wrong with this line? I'm too tired to figure it out :)
12:28 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4451 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Batch item tool cannot process barcode file with Windows line endings
12:28 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4973 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, process_koc.pl fails to process returns because of \r
12:28 * owen     is wondering if Bug 4973 has the same cause as Bug 4451
12:27 kf         hi owen
12:02 owen       Hi
12:02 jwagner    morning, owen
11:56 hdl        hi kf
11:56 jwagner    Bonjour hdl
11:54 kf         hi hdl
11:48 hdl        hi jwagner
11:42 jwagner    Hi kf
11:38 druthb     hi, jwagner and kf!
11:38 kf         l
11:38 kf         morning jwagner and hi al
11:38 jwagner    Morning, everyone....
11:35 munin      jwagner: The operation succeeded.
11:35 jwagner    @later tell pianohack Per our conversation last night, there's no visible check for branch in holds to pull in multilibrary setup, with or without independent branches on.
11:23 paul       good morning usa !
11:22 chris      hi nengard and druthb
11:22 nengard    hello
11:21 druthb     hi, nengard.
11:17 druthb     howdy, #koha!
10:09 frido      bye
09:58 frido      I may ask this in mailling list
09:58 frido      Ok, thanks
09:50 hdl        frido: I donot know. All I know is that I reported that a patch to detect ccl queries made troubles. But since I was not able to send unit test about that, patch is not reverted.
09:48 frido      hdl : do you confirm ?
09:42 larsw      paul, congratulations
09:42 larsw      jransom, I've had two employers go bankrupt -- the process is extremely ripe for rumours, and the one things that works to battle rumors is strong, repeated pushing of facts
09:41 jransom    Well done you!
09:40 paul       cat = catalogue, bib = biblioth�que (library in french)
09:40 paul       http://cat-bib.nimes.fr/
09:40 jransom    Hi Paul
09:40 chris      congrats!
09:40 chris      hiya paul
09:40 paul       FYI : Nimes public library is live (500k items), a PR should be written soon
09:39 paul       hi jransom chris & lars
09:37 jransom    thanks Lars - too tired to pussy foot around and want the lies stopped dead.
09:36 larsw      jransom, well written
09:36 jransom    thanks :)
09:35 chris      ill keep my ears out
09:33 jransom    we have 1 place left on the KohaCon roadtrip if you hear of anyone that wants to join us
09:32 larsw      chris, yes, we should :)
09:32 chris      heya lars :) was just talking about you at beer oclock, how we should meet up for lunch again :)
09:31 chris      http://library-matters.blogspot.com/2010/07/just-for-record.html
09:31 larsw      I'm losing contact with the Koha world---could someone give me the url to the blog post?
09:31 chris      yup
09:31 jransom    and wanted it clear that Jane was not involved
09:30 chris      it does seem that way
09:30 jransom    because you know sometimes it seems don't understand plain english
09:29 jransom    I tried to make it clear
09:29 chris      hiya jransom, great blog post, hopefully that will finally end the spread of lies
09:28 jransom    evening all
09:26 chris      wb kf
09:26 chris      jo++
09:01 kf         hi all :)
08:50 frido      (I use 3.2 alpha 2)
08:49 frido      same behaviour with 'yr', 'acqdate' and 'ns'
08:48 frido      $query .= " $index_plus " unless $indexes_set;
08:47 frido      That's why index 'nb' is not in query
08:47 frido      it meens that the index is already in query (usefull for weighted queries)
08:46 frido      in this case, $indexes_set is set to 1.
08:46 frido      In Search.pm, the ISBN index "nb" is detected and : elsif ( $index eq 'nb' ...
08:42 hdl        strange
08:42 hdl        frido: should be mapped to isbn
08:17 frido      I talk about C4/Search.pm
08:16 frido      hie, no simply on OPAC search in header
08:13 hdl        on z3950 cataloguing page ?
08:12 hdl        frido: where ?
08:00 frido      Is it a normal behaviour ?
08:00 frido      It is simply the operand
07:59 frido      I noticed that when performing a search on ISBN index, query doesn't contains the ISBN attribut (@att 1=7)
07:55 frido      I have a question about search behaviour of KOHA
07:54 frido      hello word
07:53 CGI181     hello word
06:25 Amit       heya cait
06:22 cait       hi Amit
06:22 Amit       hi chris, brendan
05:36 kmkale     gotta go. bye all
05:25 cait       hi kmkale
05:25 kmkale     good morning cait
05:07 cait       good morning
05:01 kmkale     is there a way to give a staff access to all branches without making him a super user?
05:01 kmkale     *good*
05:00 kmkale     God morning
01:29 chris      yeah we need definitely need localuse back before 3.2 rc1
00:50 pianohack  But there's no reason for them to
00:50 pianohack  They can
00:50 chris_n    unless they can cohabit nicely
00:50 pianohack  yup
00:49 chris_n    and friends
00:49 chris_n    ie. systempreferences.pl
00:49 chris_n    however, it seems that the old code should be removed
00:49 * chris_n  was sort of looking at that issue
00:48 pianohack  Not sure. We'll probably need to rip some code out of that to bring back local-use preferences for a bit
00:48 chris_n    is that a bug?
00:48 chris_n    pianohack: it appears that the old and new system preference editors are both in the current head
00:37 munin      brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.3�C (5:33 PM PDT on July 08, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling).
00:37 brendan    @wunder 93117