Time Nick Message 06:51 Genji Hiya 06:52 Genji Koha 3.2 master ... new install... I can't start the web portion of the install: 06:52 Genji "MarkIssueReturned" is not exported 06:52 Genji by C4::Circulation 06:52 Genji but it is. 06:53 Genji any ideas? 07:00 Genji nevermind.. .took out the gw in accounts, for circulation.pm 07:02 Genji and now the problem is, its in maintence mode.. how do i install? instead of going into the web installer.. its showing me a maintianence page. 08:32 chris if you are seeing the maintenance page its the opac, not the staff side 08:33 Genji misconfigured namevirtualhost then? 08:36 chris most likely 08:50 cait morning koha 08:51 chris hi cait 08:51 cait :) 09:08 chris cait: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2010/07/04/wellington-phoenix-open-day/ 09:10 cait your son likes football? :) 09:12 chris until he is old enough to play rugby :) 09:13 cait :) 09:15 cait and if he decides he likes football better? ;) 09:19 chris heh, he keeps tryin to pick it up, so i dont think there are any worries there 09:20 cait :) 10:54 Genji keeps going to the opac virtualhost. 18:14 cait oh no 18:14 cait hebrew records in opac are broken ... again 18:17 jcamins_a At least Koha is running. 18:17 jcamins_a :) 18:19 cait hmpf 18:19 cait sorry jcamins 18:20 cait just a bit frustrated, we need this feature for our library. 18:25 jcamins_a cait: No worries. Just trying to find the good news. 18:26 cait I think one of the last changes broke it, its supposed to look like this: https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=26729 18:26 cait but now everything is on the left side and the hebrew does not break correctly this way 18:29 jcamins_a cait: You're running on latest HEAD? 18:29 cait yes 18:30 cait my test installation, the library in production is on 3.1.61 18:30 cait fresh database and current head, loading more test records with hebrew now 18:32 cait jcamins_a: perhaps I was too fast, records from our catalog work fine, the problem record is from loc. 18:32 jcamins_a Which LC record? 18:34 cait this is the control number: 16010653 18:35 jcamins_a History of Greece? 18:37 cait no 18:37 cait I searched in wikipedia for the hebrew word israel and used this as search term in z39.50 18:38 cait I think the problem is the language code. 18:39 jcamins_a Is there any 066 field? 18:40 jcamins_a Why does our catalog go down *every single day*? (that was a rhetorical question... I _really_ don't want to know) 18:40 cait jcamins? 18:40 cait go down? 18:40 jcamins_a Crash. 18:40 cait why do you think that? 18:40 wizzyrea_ crash how? 18:41 jcamins_a Oh, it's not a Koha issue. 18:41 cait you are confusing me :) 18:41 jcamins_a Sorry. 18:41 jcamins_a I was just trying to replicate what you did, and discovered that our catalog was down. 18:41 cait ah, not our catalog, your catalog 18:41 jcamins_a Our catalog is down because the network card doesn't work. It has nothing to do with Koha. 18:41 jcamins_a Right. 18:41 wizzyrea_ Ah 18:42 cait hi wizzyrea 18:42 jcamins_a I'm betting your problem is a combination of the 066 field, the 041 field, and the leader. 18:42 cait jcamins: I think I found the problem, its the way the script checks if its a rtl script 18:42 cait no, we check 880$6 18:43 jcamins_a Oh, that would do it too. 18:44 jcamins_a I forgot that you can include character set in 880$6. 18:44 cait i think not many people use those fields 18:44 cait our union catalogs use ico codes, loc use marc21 codes 18:44 cait and the xslt script uses substring... 18:45 cait i think it does not work for both codes this way 18:45 jcamins_a And it's going to get even worse, because LC is supposedly going to stop using 880$6, and just make everything repeatable. 18:45 cait ouch 18:46 cait where did you get that from? do you have a link or something? 18:46 cait they need to put a language code somewhere, but it will make things for display more complicate :( 18:47 jcamins_a That's what one of LC's Arabic catalogers said at the Middle East Librarian's Association meeting last year. I'm sure it won't happen before RDA, though. 18:47 cait no fun 18:49 cait and not good for koha 18:49 cait how do you map a repeatable 245 field to biblioitems? 18:49 jcamins_a Eww. 18:49 jcamins_a I hadn't even thought of that. 18:50 cait we did 18:50 jcamins_a I did think that eliminating the 880 was going to be a disaster, but I hadn't quite made the connection to biblioitems. 18:50 cait when we tried to figure out the best way for our hebrew records 18:52 chris wow they do some random stuf 18:52 chris f 18:53 chris lets make marc even less useful :) 18:53 jcamins_a It hasn't happened yet. It could be like many of the good MARBI proposals (and no doubt some bad ones): completely forgotten. :) 18:56 cait hi chris 18:56 cait ok, I think the problem is here: 18:56 cait <xsl:when test="substring($code6,string-length($code6)-1,2) ='/r'"> 19:00 cait jcamins: thx for your support :) always helps me to talk to someone :) and lets hope they don't kill 880 19:01 jcamins_a cait: You're welcome. 19:02 jcamins_a Argh. I still can't get the Koha installer to run under FreeBSD. 19:05 cait can offer to talk, but no nothing about FreeBSD :) 19:05 jcamins_a Unfortunately, it would seem that makes two of us. :) 19:08 cait and my xslt problem resists 19:09 jcamins_a This is MARC21slim2OPACDetails.xsl? 19:09 cait yes 19:12 cait ok, changing en files and looking at de-DE in opac does not work :) 19:16 jcamins_a Woohoo! The Makefile appears to be running! 19:16 jcamins_a So was that the problem? 19:18 jcamins_a And the Makefile failed. 19:21 jcamins_a But, it started. That's progress. 19:21 jcamins_a And changing the hostname fixed it. 19:24 cait :) 19:25 jcamins_a The general consensus is that you don't have to worry too much if there are errors in the make test stage, right? 19:25 cait I think so 19:36 jcamins_a Urk. Apache 1.3 doesn't like the RewriteCond. 19:41 larsw apache 1.3 has reached "end of life" a couple of years ago; most importantly, this means no security fixes, so upgrading to 2.2 is highly recommended 19:41 jcamins_a Yeah, but it's not my server. 19:42 jcamins_a Although perhaps the owner will install 2.2 if I beg enough. 19:50 jcamins_a larsw: Any idea if I need mod_dbd? 19:53 larsw I have no idea, I don't know what it is 19:54 jcamins_a Okay. I don't think I do. That was the only one I wasn't sure of, so I'll try it without. 19:55 chris Another crisp morning hope today is gonna be like yesterday 19:57 larsw hi, chris 19:57 chris Hiya larsw, enjoy the weekend? 19:57 larsw chris, yup 19:58 chris Can't beat wellington on a good day 20:01 chris Empty bus too, school holidays 20:16 jcamins_a wizzyrea, larsw: Any opinion on the preferred naming convention on the wiki? "FreeBSD" or "Koha on FreeBSD"? 20:17 larsw jcamins_a, I defer to wizzyrea 20:23 jcamins_a Progress! 20:23 jcamins_a I have gotten the web server to start. 20:25 richard hi 20:25 chris hi richard 20:25 richard hey chris 20:26 hdl hi chris 20:27 chris hi hdl 20:29 cait xslt-- 20:30 jcamins_a freebsd_user_handling-- 20:35 jcamins_a freebsd_user_handling++ # That was unfair of me 20:35 jcamins_a apache_configuration-- 20:35 cait I just dont understand why it works for one string and not for the other 20:40 jcamins_a Yay! I was able to access the web installer. 20:41 jcamins_a Unfortunately, I appear to have forgotten my database password. 20:48 jcamins_a Password remembered, and the web installer has come up. 20:51 jcamins_a ::sigh:: ExtUtils::MakeMaker has been installed about thirty times now. 21:00 * jcamins_a Hands out chocolate to everyone on #koha to celebrate the successful installation of Koha on FreeBSD. 21:00 chris :) 21:00 * jcamins_a wonders if Scotch wouldn't be more appropriate. 21:01 jcamins_a That was really rather painful. 21:01 cait chocolate :) 21:02 cait jcamins++ 21:02 chris cait: http://notalwaysright.com/high-commission-brain-attrition/6031 21:02 chris see don't be scared of travelling, you will do better than this :) 21:03 jcamins_a That's fantastic. 21:03 cait chris: sure? :) 21:03 chris :) 21:04 larsw I've done worse... 21:04 jcamins_a I can't believe what I just did. I don't have a clean FreeBSD installation to test my installation procedure on to make sure that it works. 21:05 larsw there was that one time when I thought I was in the UK and was actually in the US 21:05 chris heh 21:05 jcamins_a I guess I'll put a disclaimer on the wiki saying "I think this works, but be prepared to troubleshoot installation problems." 21:05 chris cait: see and larsw made it here if he can, you can :-) 21:05 larsw cait, you should totally come to Australia 21:06 cait australia? 21:06 larsw :) 21:06 cait dont confuse me :) 21:11 jcamins_a In case anyone ever stumbles across this log when trying to learn about installing Koha with Apache 1.3, it turns out that Koha needs Apache 2. 21:20 jcamins_a Why would anyone want dontmerge to prevent automatically merging changes in authority records? 21:24 jcamins_a Is it possible to require patrons to log in to the OPAC? 21:24 cait no, you can always search 21:24 cait or not, not without changing something in the code 21:24 jcamins_a Okay. 21:24 jcamins_a I think someone did that... I hope they filed a bug report and provided their patch. 21:26 chris i know its a public branch, waiting to go into 3.4 21:26 jcamins_a Excellent. 21:27 jcamins_a Um. 21:27 jcamins_a This is a really dumb question. 21:27 jcamins_a How do I create patrons? 21:27 jcamins_a I know I've done it before. 21:28 jcamins_a Oh, there's the problem. 21:28 jcamins_a I had jquery blocked. 21:29 jcamins_a Never mind. :) 21:31 cait ok, will not solve this today, good night all 21:31 jcamins_a Good night. 21:31 chris night cait 21:35 jcamins_a Ooh, looks like someone has been polishing the Z39.50 search interface. 21:38 jcamins_a How do you make the Zebra server start when the computer boots? 21:44 larsw jcamins_a, depends on the operating system; on systems using sysv init, see the init.d scripts (/etc/init.d on Debian, might be elsewhere on RPM systems) 21:44 jcamins_a Okay, that was my question. Thanks. :) 21:57 jcamins_a Your 10-minute update on the installation of Koha on FreeBSD: I'm having Zebra problems, but otherwise progress is being made. 21:58 Aladino hola 21:59 jcamins_a Hello. 21:59 Aladino some body speak spanish 22:00 jcamins_a I do not, sorry. 22:00 Aladino thank you 22:01 Aladino do you know some chat spanish? 22:08 jcamins_a Limiting by branch only works if you have items. 22:08 jcamins_a In hindsight, completely obvious. 22:09 jcamins_a But, Koha works just fine under FreeBSD. :D 22:36 magnus hrmpf - does anyone have any experience with using the "Offline Circulation File (.koc) Uploader" for returning items? I keep getting "Unable to determine patron from item barcode"... 22:37 chris not me 22:39 magnus chris: i thought you knew everything... ;-) 22:40 chris heh, nope ever tried the offline circ thing 22:42 magnus i have a customer that needs to return 1000s of items this week, and they find it slow going (100+ items pr record). I thought the offline thingy might help them avoid (or postpone) the slowness, but now i can't get koha to process the files... 22:46 chris they are all out? 22:53 magnus the items? 22:54 chris yep 22:55 chris it might be saying it cant find the patron, because the item isnt out 22:55 magnus ah, but they are out 22:55 magnus i have tested returning the barcodes by hand, and that works just fine 22:56 chris yeah, by hand it doesnt care if they are out or not, so was just guessing 22:58 magnus i have turned 10 by hand now, 8 were returned ok and two were "not out". the offline tool gives the same response for all of them 22:58 chris right, im out of ideas then 22:59 magnus thanks for trying! :-) 23:14 chris ah ha! 23:20 magnus que? 23:21 chris in C4/Search.pm 23:21 chris there are lines referencing 'opac' 23:21 chris finally figured out why the intranet was trying to show images from the opac 23:22 magnus nice! 23:22 chris it will be a happy day when that module is burnt and rewritten 23:22 jcamins_a It certainly will be! 23:23 magnus enough midnight sun for me - g'night #koha! 23:28 jcamins_a Yay! Koha is now running without problem on my FreeBSD virtual machine. Time to go do something that doesn't involve LCDs for the rest of the day. 23:28 jcamins_a Good night, #koha 23:28 chris cya