Time  Nick       Message
00:35 Genji      huh... git clone connection times out.
00:35 Genji      links git, works.
00:35 Genji      so.... why?
00:48 Genji      odd... switching between git master, and git origin/3.0.x ... its  not changing kohaversion.pl
00:53 mib_o01ni  g'day all
00:54 mib_o01ni  I am looking for the table of Koha users aroubnd the world..
01:47 mib_o01ni  the address was: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=kohausers
01:48 mib_o01ni  where is this table now please..
02:25 wizzyrea_  probably somewhere on wiki.koha-community.org
02:26 mib_o01ni  thanks wizzyrea. I checked high and low, north and south ... no luck!
02:27 chris      i replied to your message mib_o01ni
02:43 chris      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohausers
02:43 chris      needs lots of work formatting it .. obviously :)
02:44 mib_o01ni  Thanks Chris for the link : http://librarypolice.com/wiki.koha.org/kohausers.html *** Wonder who could put it on the new wiki? Sorry I am flat out busy and can't offer to do it. Sorry ***
04:04 Amit       heya brendan, chris
04:58 robin      someone should synchronise the quotes in munin with the ones that can go here: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/quips.cgi
05:42 chris      wouldnt be too hard
06:20 chris      @quote random
06:20 munin      chris: Quote #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to be a librarian? perhaps MARC was invented to answer it ;)" (added by chris at 08:50 AM, June 12, 2009)
06:51 kmkale     good morning
06:53 chris      hi kmkale
06:53 kmkale     a quick query Koha 3.00.05.003 with zebra in staff interface search Items issued show correctly e.g. 19 total 7 available 12 issued; But when we click on the biblio on details page *ALL* items show as available.
06:53 kmkale     hi chris
06:53 kmkale     long time
06:57 kmkale     bug 2708? but thats quite old..
06:57 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2708 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Checked out items saying available
07:02 kmkale     I cant find anything else in circulation with the word Available in bugzilla
07:03 kmkale     nothing relevant in Searching too :(
07:12 chris      do you have a 3.0.6 install anywhere you can check?
07:14 kmkale     yes I do. I will have to get a db dump from the 3.0.5 and run 3.0.6 against it is it?
07:15 kmkale     cause both are on separate machines in different locations..
07:24 chris      yeah
07:25 chris      if you do that, then the upgrader will kick in (will have to reindex of course too)
07:25 chris      just wondering if its been fixed in 3.0.6 already
07:28 kmkale     will check. the dump is just 1.6mb gzed
08:43 chris      nahuel: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2010/07/01/useless-statistics/
08:43 chris      283600 Nahuel ANGELINETTI
08:43 chris      thats a lot of lines :)
08:48 nahuel     ^^
08:49 nahuel     what are lines "broken down" ?
08:51 chris      basically i ran git blame on every file, so thats the total number of lines you were the last person to edit
08:51 nahuel     ^^
08:51 nahuel     waoow
08:52 nahuel     it's a strange number
08:52 nahuel     too big non ?
08:52 chris      i think there are some sql files in there etc too
08:52 nahuel     yep you should exclude sql :p
08:52 chris      i excluded the .po
08:53 chris      originally i had about 3 million lines counting that :)
08:53 chris      and the total was aroun 4 million lines
08:53 nahuel     koha have 4 millions lines ?
08:54 chris      if you count all the .po files
08:54 chris      master has 947177 without those
08:55 chris      http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/lines.html
08:55 chris      counting all the .po files
09:00 nahuel     it's a lot
09:02 chris      sure is
10:55 kf         hi #koha
11:10 druthb     Harrrumph!  howdy.
11:52 druthb     hi, jwagner and kmkale and nengard! :)
11:52 kmkale     hi druthb
11:53 nengard    howdy all
11:55 jwagner    Hi all
12:15 druthb     howdy, kf and owen. :)
12:15 owen       Hi
12:18 gmcharlt   good morning
12:33 kf         @wunder Konstanz
12:33 munin      kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.9�C (2:42 PM CEST on July 01, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Steady).
12:35 owen       Has anyone ever had a problem with git where after you removed a file using "git rm" git would give you errors on your next command?
12:35 owen       "fatal: Unable to read current working directory"
12:35 owen       Switching directories within the repo and trying again works
12:41 druthb     I've never had that happen, owen, but I don't do git rm much.
12:42 owen       I've never had it happen when working with Koha, but I see it on one of my own projects.
12:44 gmcharlt   owen: is it on an NFS share, perhaps?
12:44 gmcharlt   also, if you are doing the git-rm from within a directory that you are thus deleting, that could cause that
12:45 owen       Don't know about the NFS share question. That's not something I set up, but it's on a hosted server
12:45 owen       Anyway, it's just an oddity.
12:45 gmcharlt   df -k will list the filesystems, include those that are local and those that are NFS mounts
13:23 jcamins    Good morning, #koha
15:13 kf         hi again
15:13 kf         @wunder Konstanz
15:13 munin      kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 30.0�C (5:00 PM CEST on July 01, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
15:15 jcamins    Hi, kf
15:16 kf         hi jcamins
15:28 wizzyrea   good morning friends
15:29 owen       What's new wizzyrea?
15:29 wizzyrea   not a whole lot
15:29 wizzyrea   muddling about with zebra
15:30 * owen     is crunching June stats
15:30 wizzyrea   oof
15:52 druthb     hi, wizzyrea!  :D
16:01 wizzyrea   ok, so here's my "problem:" I have a test server that needs indexing. No problem, except the partition the indexes are on is too small. It's not a production server, so can I symlink the index locations to a partition with more space?
16:01 wizzyrea   I suppose I could just make the existing partition bigger
16:02 gmcharlt   wizzyrea: symlink would be OK, I believe
16:02 jcamins    You can also move the indexes, I think.
16:03 gmcharlt   yep, just two three Zebra config files to update if you do that
16:03 wizzyrea   I suppose that was my other question... I wasn't sure which zebra files to modify to move the indexes
16:04 wizzyrea   do you ever do that thing where you know there are like 10 solutions to a problem, but you go with the one you can do the most easily without tons of hassle? That's where I'm at :P
16:04 jcamins    etc/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg and etc/zebradb/zebra-authorities.cfg
16:04 gmcharlt   koha-conf.xml, zebra-biblios.cfg, zebra-authorities.cfg
16:04 gmcharlt   snap
16:04 wizzyrea   jinx!
16:05 wizzyrea   thanks peeps, I'll just fix it in those files I think
16:05 jcamins    I _always_ go with the one solution I know how to implement.
16:05 wizzyrea   no reason to do a kludge when a proper fix is in order
16:06 jcamins    And justify it by saying "I'm a cataloger, and my backlog is now more than six months long."
16:06 wizzyrea   :D
16:07 wizzyrea   hm
16:08 wizzyrea   is it possible that it's the intermediate temp files that are causing my problem? because the place for the actual indexes seems to be in the partition with space
16:10 wizzyrea   this is very bewildering
16:11 gmcharlt   you mean during a rebuild_zebra.pl operation?
16:12 gmcharlt   if so, you can use the -d option to specify a different directory for scratch space
16:13 jcamins    wizzyrea: What are the symptoms of the problem you're running into?
16:13 wizzyrea   AH
16:13 wizzyrea   gmcharlt that's probably what I need to do
16:13 wizzyrea   thanks
16:14 wizzyrea   I am indexing a catalog with 700k items, and I think it's running out of scratch space
16:14 jcamins    If you're getting an error message, it's because the default space in the zebra config files is insufficient.
16:14 wizzyrea   before it gets all of the indexes built
16:15 jcamins    Change the :4G in zebra-biblios.cfg and zebra-authorities.cfg (under koha-dev) to 16G.
16:15 jcamins    *:16G
16:15 jcamins    Let me try that again.
16:15 wizzyrea   I think you're telling me that zebra has a limit on how much space it will use, not that there isn't enough disk space
16:15 jcamins    Instead of ':4G' following the paths in zebra-biblios.cfg and zebra-authorities.cfg (under koha-dev), you want ':16G'
16:16 wizzyrea   correct?
16:16 jcamins    Right.
16:16 wizzyrea   aha
16:16 wizzyrea   that should be in the faq, I think
16:16 wizzyrea   surely I'm not the first to have run into that
16:16 jcamins    We did.
16:16 wizzyrea   well there you go
16:16 wizzyrea   ;)
16:16 jcamins    I thought about filing a bug report, but I'm not sure it's a bug, per se.
16:17 wizzyrea   no, probably just needs to be documented in the FAQ
16:17 wizzyrea   tyvm, about to try it
16:18 wizzyrea   gold star for you if it works :)
16:18 wizzyrea   (or karma, that works too I guess)
16:19 jcamins    :)
16:20 jcamins    Yay! My reindexing finished, and I can start doing some work.
16:22 * wizzyrea prays that this will finish and we will have a lovely 3.2 db with (older) production data
16:22 jcamins    I guess you'll find out sometime tomorrow?
16:23 jcamins    Our database with ~170k records takes about two hours.
16:26 wizzyrea   I"m doing it witn -nosanitize which makes it much faster
16:26 wizzyrea   soon to be seen if we have good enough records to do this with
16:27 wizzyrea   I'm not actually sure I know how many bibs we have
16:53 wizzyrea   it hasn't died yet, I'm so excited.
16:53 owen       I feel the same way about our turtle!
16:53 kf         @wunder Konstanz
16:53 wizzyrea   hahahahaha
16:53 munin      kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.1�C (7:02 PM CEST on July 01, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady).
16:53 jcamins    How old is your turtle?
16:54 wizzyrea   what's the turtle's name?
16:54 owen       I'm not sure how old, we're its third owner. At least 2 years old.
16:54 * wizzyrea will laugh if it's Simon James Alexander Ragsdale III
16:54 owen       The previous owner named it "Friday," and my kids haven't stepped up with a new name (nor do they call him Friday)
16:56 kf         bye all, bbl
16:56 wizzyrea   I might be the only one here who gets that joke
16:56 owen       You and Google ;)
16:56 wizzyrea   HA
16:57 wizzyrea   I have fifteen animals, I like them a lot. Fifteen animals is what I've got. There's Bob the hamster, and Bob the bird, and so on.
16:57 wizzyrea   and my turtle
16:57 wizzyrea   simon james alexander ragsdale, the third.
16:57 druthb     lol
16:58 wizzyrea   i haven't ever read that book. No sir.
16:58 wizzyrea   why on earth would I have such a LUDICROUS thing memorized? ;)
17:01 * owen     is back to trying to figure out why biblios with 440 tags are considered serial records by Koha
17:02 joetho     so how much space is not enough space, wizzyrea?
17:03 wizzyrea   well, it was set at 4G
17:03 wizzyrea   I've increased to 16, it's at 159k records now
17:03 joetho     you installed it in a 4gb partition, correct?
17:03 joetho     Hmmm.
17:03 wizzyrea   nope, there are about 150G in that partition
17:04 wizzyrea   I thought it was the tmp area, but was wrong
17:05 joetho     so, would I be smart to install on the biggest drive I have laying around, and use the default partition sizes?
17:06 wizzyrea   well, in our case
17:06 joetho     correction: nothing can make me smart
17:06 wizzyrea   it was a zebra configuration setting that was cutting us off short
17:06 joetho     change to "well-advised"
17:06 pianohack  owen: still around?
17:06 joetho     so a nice roomy installation wasn't the problem?
17:06 owen       pianohack: Yes
17:07 wizzyrea   jcamins: If you're getting an error message, it's because the default space in the zebra config files is insufficient.
17:07 wizzyrea   [11:23am] wizzyrea: before it gets all of the indexes built
17:07 wizzyrea   [11:24am] jcamins: Change the :4G in zebra-biblios.cfg and zebra-authorities.cfg (under koha-dev) to 16G.
17:07 wizzyrea   [11:24am] jcamins: *:16G
17:07 wizzyrea   [11:24am] jcamins: Let me try that again.
17:07 wizzyrea   [11:24am] wizzyrea: I think you're telling me that zebra has a limit on how much space it will use, not that there isn't enough disk space
17:07 wizzyrea   [11:24am] jcamins: Instead of ':4G' following the paths in zebra-biblios.cfg and zebra-authorities.cfg (under koha-dev), you want ':16G'
17:07 pianohack  We have 440s in our catalog that are not treated as serials
17:07 pianohack  We think!
17:07 gmcharlt   right
17:07 wizzyrea   is what I did, joetho
17:07 gmcharlt   440 = series
17:07 gmcharlt   not necessarily serials
17:07 pianohack  right
17:07 pianohack  owen: Could it be an XSLT issue?
17:07 owen       pianohack: I was just testing with a newly-added record, and I don't see the biblio.serial field set for it
17:07 joetho     well that sounds simple enough, wizzyrea
17:08 joetho     so easy, a CAVEMAN could do it
17:08 wizzyrea   pft
17:08 owen       pianohack: The issue is that biblio.serial is set to "1" for records which contain a 440 tag
17:08 joetho     I mean, now that you guys explain it.
17:08 owen       pianohack: My new add has biblio.serial set to NULL.
17:09 joetho     I am gearing up for my fourth or fifth attempt at creating a testbed.
17:09 owen       pianohack: So it could be I'm dealing with a problem of old data
17:09 pianohack  probably
17:09 joetho     Everytime I free up a computer for it I have to use it for something else.
17:09 wizzyrea   argle
17:09 wizzyrea   I would recommend a big, fast disk though
17:09 joetho     Maybe I could break into your shop in Lawrence and STEAL one
17:09 wizzyrea   heh
17:09 wizzyrea   not without being caught you couldn't
17:09 wizzyrea   (we got cameras)
17:10 joetho     yes, big/fast is the problem.
17:10 wizzyrea   well
17:10 owen       pianohack: Do any of your records have biblio.serial = 1?
17:10 wizzyrea   if you have to choose
17:10 joetho     installing on a crappy computer seems counter-productive
17:10 wizzyrea   choose fast, and big enough
17:10 wizzyrea   a 150 would probably do ya
17:11 wizzyrea   our DB is 9G
17:11 owen       Wait, it can't just be my data... Others have seen this problem too
17:11 joetho     wow
17:11 wizzyrea   so that plus another 9ish for the indexes
17:11 pianohack  owen: The _new_ records with 440s have serials set on them
17:11 joetho     I didn't think it would be that big.
17:11 pianohack  *biblio.serial set
17:11 pianohack  okay, that is weird
17:11 wizzyrea   that's got everything
17:11 joetho     How big is your dump?
17:11 wizzyrea   9G
17:11 joetho     You should see a doctor.,
17:12 wizzyrea   har de har
17:12 joetho     JK
17:12 jcamins    owen: It's not your data. We imported everything from a MARC file, and records with 440s seem to have biblio.serial set.
17:12 pianohack  so something specifically in the 3.0 code
17:12 wizzyrea   I need to get a new dump soon, but am awaiting firewall IP update
17:13 pianohack  our 2.2-era imports with 440s do not have .serial set
17:13 owen       And a record I created which has a subscription attached to it has biblio.serial = NULL, so it doesn't look like the Serials module sets that value
17:14 jcamins    We have 3.1.111.
17:17 owen       I see records in my live catalog as new as today showing this problem (v3.01.00.061)
17:18 pianohack  Hahahahahahaha
17:18 pianohack  I found it
17:18 pianohack  C4::Biblio::_koha_add_biblio
17:18 wizzyrea   PH is THE MAN.
17:18 pianohack  if ( $biblio->{'seriestitle'} ) { $biblio->{'serial'} = 1 }
17:18 pianohack  Guess what's mapped to seriestitle?
17:18 pianohack  That's right, 440a
17:19 pianohack  Does biblio.serial actually affect anything, though?
17:19 pianohack  If it just marks that it's in a series, that actually makes a lot of sense
17:21 owen       Currently it causes a problem in the display of detail.pl because detail.pl uses it to check whether the title has a subscription
17:21 pianohack  Ah
17:21 owen       It's really easy to fix that, though
17:21 pianohack  I'd say that's a detail.pl bug, then
17:22 owen       Just because of the terminology I think it's a bug that biblio.serial is set for series, but if we accept that as a given we can live with it
17:23 cait       hi #koha
17:23 owen       Hi cait
17:25 nengard    more koha videos found: http://www.youtube.com/group/kohails?topic=t4ZnNLchRC_Q
17:26 wizzyrea   hey cait
17:26 owen       Thanks pianohack, I'm much more comfortable submitting this fix for detail.pl now that I understand what was behind biblio.serial = 1
17:26 owen       pianohack++
17:27 pianohack  np; love it when weird stuff like this is easy to find and kind of makes sense
17:27 pianohack  not always the case in our lovely 10 year old codebase ;)
17:27 cait       oh, must read back logs
17:32 cait       pianohack++
17:32 pianohack  thanks cait
17:32 pianohack  How are you doing?
17:33 cait       its too warm outside for my taste :)
17:34 pianohack  I can sympathize; all of a sudden three weeks ago it went from 60 to 100 degree highs
17:35 cait       ok, thats really hot
17:35 cait       we only had 86 today
17:36 cait       30°C
17:36 pianohack  Not so bad today
17:36 pianohack  But still, why summer
17:36 cait       but was sitting in a room with 10 running computers and not real air condition
17:37 cait       time to cook dinner, back in few minutes
17:52 joetho     I went to COlorado one summer to cool off and danged if it wasn't about thirty degrees hotter there than here in Kansas
17:52 joetho     and this was in Dillon
17:52 joetho     then another year I was there for the fourth of July and the annual parade got snowed out
17:53 pianohack  Colorado weather can be unique
17:53 joetho     I take it you are still in Colo, hackerman?
17:53 pianohack  Yup
17:53 pianohack  Going to college in the fall in northern colorado
17:54 pianohack  (we had near-constant 60 mph winds in our little town in the foothills for a couple weeks this spring)
18:33 moodaepo   @wunder Dillon, CO
18:33 munin      moodaepo: The current temperature in Keystone Ranch, Dillon, Colorado is 19.8�C (12:40 PM MDT on July 01, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa (Steady).
18:33 moodaepo   @wunder 56001
18:33 munin      moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 27.6�C (1:42 PM CDT on July 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.20 in 988.7 hPa (Steady).
18:39 chris      morning
18:41 cait       morning chris
18:44 druthb     hi, chris!
18:47 chris      heya cait and druthb
18:47 chris      hows things?
18:53 cait       @wunder Konstanz
18:53 munin      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 26.0�C (9:00 PM CEST on July 01, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
18:53 cait       finally getting cooler outside :)
18:53 wizzyrea   @wunder lawrence, KS
18:54 munin      wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 29.1�C (2:02 PM CDT on July 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Falling).
18:54 cait       munin is a bit sleepy
18:54 munin      cait: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
18:54 cait       ...
18:54 wizzyrea   but it is SO nice outside
18:54 wizzyrea   imo
18:54 wizzyrea   even though hot
18:54 cait       Im a strange person, my favourite weather is rain :)
18:55 owen-away  Does anyone know what could cause my serial receive page to not let me change "expected" to "arrived" ?
18:55 owen-away  The form field is disabled
18:55 * owen     comes back so no one has to shout
18:55 cait       do your subscription need renewal?
18:57 owen       It has an end date in the future, and no issues have been received
18:57 cait       hm
19:07 wizzyrea   jcamins++
19:07 wizzyrea   my index finished :D
19:09 jcamins    :D
19:14 jwagner    Just created Bug 4927 -- any input?
19:14 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4927 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, OPAC advanced search has two call number entries; remove one?
19:26 cait       hi paul and hdl
19:28 hdl        hi cait
19:30 jcamins    wizzyrea: How much space does your index take up now that it's finished building?
19:30 wizzyrea   good question
19:38 joetho     51% humidity is a little unbelieveable
19:39 pianohack  @weather 81226
19:39 munin      pianohack: The current temperature in Franklin Ave - Downtown, Canon City, Colorado is 30.9�C (1:45 PM MDT on July 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 24.63 in 834.0 hPa (Falling).
19:39 joetho     23% is even better
19:39 pianohack  23 godforsaken percent and I'm trying to get used to contacts. Curse you weather
19:39 joetho     I am programmed for about 95% humidity in July.
19:40 joetho     I do believe my sister used to live in Canon City.
19:40 joetho     Leadville, now.
19:46 chris_n    @wunder 28334
19:46 munin      chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 29.0�C (3:21 PM EDT on July 01, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
19:47 chris_n    hmm... cold wave
19:48 joetho     @wunder navarino, chile
19:48 munin      joetho: Error: No such location could be found.
19:48 pianohack  joetho: wow, that's a freaky coincidence.
19:49 pianohack  What was she doing in our... enlightened and happening neck of the woods?
19:49 joetho     living there
19:49 pianohack  well
19:49 pianohack  yes
19:49 pianohack  I got that
19:49 joetho     They moved all over colo for years
19:49 pianohack  Ah, okay
19:49 joetho     road construction
19:49 pianohack  oh, okay
19:50 pianohack  maybe next time, I'll wait until you actually finish the story ;)
19:55 chris_n    heya paul
20:07 chris      Yay for bus irc
20:07 cait       :)
20:09 chris      And for a broken rfid ticket system
20:09 chris      Free ride
20:10 wizzyrea   niiice
20:13 jcamins    Argh! I found a bug in the two patches I submitted to the community.
20:13 wizzyrea   oops
20:13 wizzyrea   it happens :)
20:14 jcamins    Since it's 4:20, I will be submitting my correction tomorrow.
20:14 chris      Fair enuff :)
20:15 chris      Maybe a test case too?
20:15 chris      Never hurts to ask is my motto :)
20:17 jcamins    How would I do that?
20:17 jcamins    (for bug 4928)
20:17 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4928 normal, P5, ---, camins, NEW, With multiple 76x-78x fields, the font display gets progressively smaller
20:20 chris      Ahh hard with that one
20:23 chris      You'd have to use selenium.  Overkill for that
20:23 jcamins    Selenium. That sounds vaguely poisonous.
20:23 cait       its quite nice
20:23 cait       I wrote me some test cases for notices and basic configuration
20:24 chris      You are thinking of brussel sprouts jcamins
20:24 chris      I hate those things
20:24 jcamins    Ah. Yes, easily confused, selenium and brussel sprouts.
20:24 richard    hi
20:24 chris      Hi richard
20:24 cait       selenium is not ony poisonous, its good for some things too (we had a discussion about htis at work and ended at wikipedia )
20:24 richard    hey chris
20:25 richard    can't beat wellington on day like this one
20:25 chris      Free bus ride too!
20:25 richard    woo
20:25 rhcl       Selenium sulfide is uses to treat some skin problems.
20:25 jcamins    Time to go.
20:26 richard    areas of nz have selenium deficiant soils
20:28 rhcl       Interesting
20:29 wizzyrea   and you know what happens if you end up in wikipedia
20:29 wizzyrea   you almost always end up with marie antoinette's underwear
20:29 wizzyrea   it's like what happens if you give a mouse a cookie
20:30 wizzyrea   you'll go a long way, but you'll always end up with a cookie.
20:30 rhcl       http://www.perrigo.com/uploadedImages/Rx/products/S/45802-040-64new.jpg
20:30 wizzyrea   it's children's book day in #koha
20:31 cait       wizzyrea: ?
20:32 wizzyrea   oh, earlier I was quoting boynton's "Fifteen Animals" and just now I was quoting "If you give a mouse a cookie"
20:32 wizzyrea   both recognizable children's books
20:32 wizzyrea   in the US anyway
20:32 cait       ah
20:33 cait       bed time - good night all!
20:33 chris      Ok bus stop
20:33 chris      Bbl
20:47 chris      back
22:05 pianohack  chris: We're letting the RM deal with dbversion stuff, correct?
22:05 pianohack  (finally going to submit an actual patch)
22:06 chris      yup :)
23:27 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: bug4926 - Improves the ID fields when sending lists and carts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=00ecd9fcbe79180ecf671186e7ea725126a96a0c> / Bug 4915: Remove renewalsallowed from sample_itemtypes.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=28a4d55f703b74e44d563eeace11ddc9f280f75c>
23:37 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: bug 2434: set DBrev to 142 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=25c895db0144b43bd7b12bc7403fefaac7647cc9> / bug 2434 followup patch to remove EVENT from message_transports <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4adbb89c4cd0bcfe60b067b2e0e3ba2db4c98dd0>