Time  Nick       Message
23:54 custard    hello #koha,
23:52 pianohack  moodaepo: Only to tie in with larsw's joke ;)
23:42 moodaepo   chris: nice.
23:42 chris      h
23:42 chris      he
23:42 * moodaepo sees pianohack dissing Minnesota
23:41 chris      cool anthony mao from taiwan confirms he is coming and can present, only 2 outstanding now
23:41 munin      moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 21.9�C (6:49 PM CDT on June 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 28.96 in 980.6 hPa (Falling).
23:41 moodaepo   @wunder 56001
22:33 chris      prolly cost more than a macbook
22:33 * sekjal   unsticks velcro
22:33 sekjal     alright, pulling into the station.  got to bounce yet again.
22:32 sekjal     next one is in San Diego, right?  that'd be a wicked long ride
22:31 druthb     I was gonna take acela to Boston for midwinter, then ended up not going.
22:31 druthb     *nod*  That's what I usually ride, too.
22:30 sekjal     druthb: northeast regional
22:29 druthb     you on northeast regional, or acela?
22:29 druthb     yep.
22:28 sekjal     druthb: yup, I'm about 10 minutes away.  nice to have outlets to recharge my devices.  all the sessions today drained them dry
22:28 pianohack  larsw: See, but I think it's still preferable to minnesota
22:28 pianohack  Oh, wow, that's a 25% export premium over the us
22:28 larsw      Finlnad -- the land of a thousand typos
22:28 larsw      pianohack, currently in NZ, born in Finlnad
22:27 druthb     sekjal, that's a nice little ride---40 minutes or so, and cheap-cheap.  I go to baltimore n back fairly often.
22:27 larsw      entry level macbook in nz is nzd 1749 in the apple shop
22:27 pianohack  larsw: USD. Just out of curiosity, where are you from?
22:27 chris      sekjal: oooh cool
22:27 larsw      pianohack, which country's dollars?
22:27 sekjal     chris: train to Baltimore.  my best friend gets married next weekend
22:26 chris      sekjal: on the bus home?
22:26 pianohack  chris: $950 for us lucky college entrants ;)
22:26 chris      crazy
22:26 druthb     The convention center is three loooong blocks long by two wide...huge place.
22:26 * sekjal   is already outta DC
22:24 druthb     Very much so, yes.
22:24 chris      all conferenced out?
22:24 druthb     hi, chris! :D
22:24 chris      heya druthb :)
22:24 chris      :)
22:23 pianohack  (not _great_ used cars, but still)
22:23 chris      whats an entry level macbook cost these days?
22:22 pianohack  Even if you're going for, say, the entry level macbook as opposed to the macbook pro, which costs more than some used cars I've seen?
22:22 chris      thats just my opinion though
22:21 chris      frankly i dont think the hardware is good enough to justify the price, without OS X
22:21 chris      i think about no where at all
22:21 pianohack  Don't know if anyone's tried
22:21 pianohack  Hmm. I wonder how far up the chain I could get with the a "Mac OS X tax" argument for a refund?
22:21 chris      hehe
22:20 pianohack  but anyway
22:20 pianohack  I think I've been reading too much english class material, throwin' in adverbs for the hell of it
22:19 pianohack  well, no
22:19 chris      also, objective measures don't exist in an ethical sphere :)
22:19 chris      if you were gonna buy it, reformat and put linux on, then nope, but you are buying their software .. and that is much worse than a lot of the software industry :)
22:18 larsw      but, but, ... shiny! or dull! white! or black! metal! dull shiny aluminium metal! brushed! how can you you not want to give all your money to them!
22:18 chris      (theres more than just foxconn too im afraid)
22:18 pianohack  Yes, those things suck, but are they objectively much worse than the rest of the computer _hardware_ industry?
22:18 chris      proprietary code too, but that goes without saying :)
22:17 pianohack  so drm, patents and foxconn
22:16 chris      i don't like their drm and lock in practices, i dont like the patent threats steve jobs makes, i don't like the working conditions of the people who make their products
22:16 pianohack  okay
22:15 chris      with some practical thrown in as well
22:15 chris      its pretty much all ethical
22:15 chris      heh
22:10 pianohack  chris: so maybe not the best time to go into your reasons for not liking apple?
22:10 pianohack  ah
22:06 chris      semi
22:05 pianohack  also, chris: around?
22:05 pianohack  morning all
21:45 chris      yep thats exactly what happened
21:45 robin      It looks like the httpauth stuff was written a long time ago, and kina forgotten about, it doesn't really work just yet :)
21:44 chris      yup
21:44 robin      ohh. I can have a session without a cookie if httpauth is being used - it just ties the session to the userid, that could work.
21:43 robin      chris: what gets stored in the session? It looks like it's a bunch of information about the user, I assume that's used to reduce db lookups?
21:42 chris      it can go on the list for 3.4
21:38 * robin    wishes he had the time to rewrite the auth system - is currently very hard to make changes to :(
21:32 gmcharlt   larsw++
21:32 gmcharlt   robin++
21:32 chris      sweet :)
21:08 cait       bye all
21:00 larsw      yay
20:59 robin      chris: so, there's a new Debian package policy version out, which I think gives me an excuse to make myself the maintainer of larsw's packages.
20:25 richard    hi
19:19 owen       gmcharlt?
18:54 chris      bbiab
18:54 chris      ahh thats unhelpful
18:54 owen       Trying to export one of my problem records gives me a 0-byte file
18:51 chris      or something similair
18:51 chris      marclint marc_file_name | less
18:51 chris      so
18:47 chris      it looks through your records and finds mistakes
18:47 chris      apt-get install libmarc-lint-perl
18:47 chris      you may have to install marclint
18:47 chris      it should explode when it gets to the bad character, or at least tell you it saw one
18:46 chris      then run marcdump on it
18:46 chris      if you export the marc
18:45 owen       chris, can you elaborate on "run marcdump or marclint on it?"
18:24 chris      in this case
18:24 chris      its from parsing the xml using xslt
18:24 wizzyrea   (I'm still trying to understand)
18:24 wizzyrea   this comes from the index?
18:24 wizzyrea   so one bad character in one bad field causes it to puke?
18:23 chris      and warn the librarian one is bad
18:23 chris      we should show the other 19
18:23 chris      we shouldnt explode cos one record is bad
18:23 chris      but i think that a 500 is bad in that case too
18:22 chris      yeah
18:20 owen       Why does such an error not trigger a page like we get for a 404 or 500 error?
18:19 owen       "the general issue" I refer to is the fact that if debug level is 0 you get a blank page with "production mode - trapped fatal error"
18:17 wizzyrea   agreed
18:17 wizzyrea   ^^
18:17 cait       get well chris
18:17 chris      imho
18:17 chris      and do a big red warning in the staff side
18:16 chris      we should skip the record in the opac
18:16 chris      definitely something we want to fix in future
18:16 sekjal     out of battery.  chris, feel even better, #koha, take care!  hope to be back on soon
18:16 owen       Nothing relevant to the general issue turns up in a search of Bugzilla for "trapped"
18:16 chris      getting better i thnk, i feel better than yesterday, not 100% yet tho
18:15 owen       :(
18:15 chris      this early morning help is brought to by chris' stomach bug
18:14 chris      owen: is there a bug on it do you know?
18:14 chris      good luck finding it
18:14 chris      no problem
18:14 tomascohe  thanks again
18:14 chris      might help you find it
18:14 * owen     recalls ranting about that recently
18:14 chris      then run marcdump or marclint on it
18:13 tomascohe  chris: thats a good idea
18:13 chris      tomascohe: you could export the marc
18:13 chris      cos thats just lame
18:13 tomascohe  thanks, i'll try to figure how to check it algorithmically in the databse
18:13 chris      we should also fix it so a bad record doesnt kill everything
18:12 chris      i think so
18:11 tomascohe  should ? look for the problem in the first results list records?
18:10 tomascohe  you where right, it worked
18:10 chris      yeah try that, it might help us spot the bad record
18:10 tomascohe  yes, i'm turning it off
18:09 chris      tomascohe: do you have display results using XSLT turned on?
18:09 chris      yeah
18:09 chris      at least one record in the search results will break it
18:09 owen       One bad record throwing off the parsing of the XML in the result set?
18:09 chris      e
18:09 chris      but its definitely som
18:09 chris      well its not all, as borges works
18:08 tomascohe  should i look for coding problems in ALL the records?
18:08 owen       Perhaps a problem with the XSLT parsing of the search results?
18:08 tomascohe  its a problem with a generic zebra search
18:08 tomascohe  the problem (in my side) is that it is not refereed to A record
18:07 chris      looks like the record has some bad characters in it
18:07 tomascohe  opac-search.pl: Wide character in subroutine entry at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/Charset/Table.pm line 96
18:07 chris      what does the apache error log tell you?
18:06 tomascohe  http://ffyh.biblio.unc.edu.ar
18:06 tomascohe  please try this opac instead, its the same problem
18:06 tomascohe  philosophy, journal, etc
18:05 tomascohe  its just some words
18:05 tomascohe  if you search borges everything works fine
18:05 wizzyrea   I get a DNS one as well
18:05 tomascohe  i'm trying to show an error
18:04 chris      i get a dns one
18:04 owen       I've seen that error many times
18:04 owen       "production mode - trapped fatal error" Is that the point?
18:04 wizzyrea   me either :(
18:04 chris      doesnt work for me tomascohe
18:03 tomascohe  wizzyrea: my mistake, here goes http://ffyh2.biblio.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=journal
18:02 sekjal     for whatever it's worth
18:02 chris      :)
18:02 sekjal     there, I've definitely stated my position
18:02 chris      im with you
18:02 sekjal     KUDOS is not Koha.  koha.org should not be the KUDOS site.  that's what links are for
18:01 tomascohe  oops
18:00 wizzyrea   ah, that requires a login
18:00 tomascohe  has anyone seen sthing like this? http://ffyh2.biblioadmin.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=journal
18:00 owen       "Could."
18:00 sekjal     no promises could be made about such a turnover, whether KUDOS would 'own' koha.org' outright, or if PTFS would retain control, and give license to KUDOS to maintain the site
17:59 wizzyrea   if they turned it over to kudos, kudos could turn it over to koha-community :P
17:59 chris      kudos.koha-community.org can work right now if desired
17:59 chris      if the domain was in control of the community, kudos.koha-community.org and kudos.koha.org could both work, and point to kudos.org
17:59 wizzyrea   well
17:57 sekjal     agreed
17:57 chris      unless yes it was pointed to the world site
17:57 chris      i can only see that as driving a wedge into the community
17:56 sekjal     KUDOS needs a website.  kudos.org is available.... but some folks want to leverage the SEO of koha.org, rather than letting it rot
17:56 sekjal     having koha.org in the hands of a non-profit users group would be better than nothing, but it should point to the world site.  period
17:55 owen       No to mention a slap in the face of every non-US Koha enthusiast
17:55 * owen     agrees
17:55 chris      looks like a slap in the face to HLT and the people who voted for hlt to hold community property to me
17:55 sekjal     owen: it was talked about at KUDOS, yes
17:52 owen-away  sekjal: PTFS is considering turning over koha.org to KUDOS?
17:47 sekjal     twitter has crunched down on search results for the conference IP... ugh
17:12 sekjal     may lose WiFi for a couple minutes...
17:11 sekjal     KUDOS meeting wrapped and tweeted.  On to the Ultimate Debate (with leftover food)
17:05 chris_n    lol
17:05 munin      gmcharlt: Quote #28: "<owen> I'm glad munin doesn't follow me around all day remembering *everything* I say." (added by jdavidb at 09:14 AM, September 01, 2009)
17:05 gmcharlt   @quote random
16:52 owen       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Guided_reports_RFC
16:52 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3929 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, parameters in guided reports
16:52 owen       There are unfixed issues in the RFC comments, but I'm tempted to mark Bug 3929 as fixed since the basics are in place
16:43 * collum   is looking at git commands and is amazed by the number of commands
16:39 * owen     wonders why 'git status' wouldn't suffice... Perhaps he manages too few files in one go
16:39 chris_n    owen: I'd bet so
16:31 owen       I get no output from that at all. Does that only work with files removed from your branch?
16:29 munin      druthb: Highest karma: "chris" (149), "gmcharlt" (149), and "owen" (117).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-57), "failed" (-40), and "-" (-25).
16:29 druthb     @karma
16:28 munin      druthb: Karma for "collum" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5.
16:28 druthb     @karma collum
16:28 druthb     collum++
16:28 collum     According to http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-ls-files.html
16:27 collum     owen:  git ls-files -d
16:23 owen       How can I find information in git about a file that has been removed?
16:15 owen       Thanks. Lots of "patch sent" bug reports needing follow-up!
16:13 chris_n    owen gets the "kitten of the day" award (so far) :)
16:11 cait       owen++
15:49 sekjal     owen: sure thing
15:42 owen       sekjal: Say hi to Kudos for me
15:40 cait       hi #koha and druthb :)
15:40 gmcharlt   hi druthb :)
15:40 druthb     Hi, gmcharlt and cait! :)
15:38 gmcharlt   good afternoon
15:24 sekjal     yup, free wifi here, so I'm on my full keyboard
15:23 nengard    sekjal is at the Kudos meeting now
15:10 * druthb   velcroes sekjal down
15:03 hdl        tomascohe: I will remove the warning.
15:03 hdl        tomascohe: you're welcome.
15:01 tomascohe  s
15:01 tomascohe  thank
15:01 tomascohe  i'll look at it and if i find something interesting will come back with this
15:00 tomascohe  hdl: ok, if i leave the 'warn' i see an error message for each search i do
14:56 hdl        tomascohe: the parser is stored in a HASH. So parsing XSLT should be done only for the first result
14:54 tomascohe  hdl: i watn to use xslt's, just saying the code looks inneficient, with a los of innecesary i/o for just showing results or biblios
14:53 kf         bye all, bbl
14:52 hdl        tomascohe: you can set all XSLT variables to '' and you won't use XSLTs
14:47 kf         sekjal: cool
14:47 sekjal     and with that, time to get ready for KUDOS.  Hope to have connection so I can report the proceedings.  Cheers!
14:46 sekjal     kf: there is git send-email as a function, and you can also add hooks to run arbitrary scripts before or after certain events, like commits
14:37 tomascohe  which at first sight, cuold be in (some way) in C4::Context
14:36 kf         owen: not sure git can send emails, but it would perhaps makes things a bit easier, needs a correct bug number in submit messages
14:35 hdl        owen: git-bz can help you ;)
14:35 tomascohe  the xsl filename
14:35 tomascohe  hdl: of course, what i meant is that every time an xsl file is requested we do a lot of parsing on
14:35 kf         perhaps just an update like galen does now: patch pushed, plz test and close
14:33 owen       kf: I'm not sure how we'd indicate it in Bugzilla.... another priority setting for "patch-pushed?"
14:33 kf         owen: perhaps you could make git send an email to bugzilla?
14:32 hdl        tomascohe: you can set all XSLT variables to '' and you won't use XSLTs
14:31 tomascohe  don't we have the xslt parameter in a variable?
14:31 tomascohe  but i'd like to know if it would be better that we don't get into that code every time
14:30 tomascohe  it looks safe to remove
14:30 owen       It's too bad Bugzilla can't track when a patch has been pushed
14:30 hdl        Saw that.
14:29 tomascohe  hdl: 3.0.6
14:26 hdl        can be safely removed
14:26 hdl        on line 168 of C4/XSLT.pm
14:25 hdl        tomascohe: this is an unconditional warn.
14:23 hdl        But not on master
14:23 hdl        on 3.0.x yes.
14:21 * owen     saw it in 3.0.x on gitweb
14:21 hdl        owen: the changes I proposed were not pushed iirc.
14:20 hdl        On community/master I donot see any warn getCwd issued
14:20 hdl        tomascohe: which version are you using.
14:19 owen       Hi hdl, tomascohe has a question about XSLT.pm which I think relates to a change you made
14:19 hdl        owen: I am here.
14:19 owen       gmcharlt around?
14:17 owen       hdl, do you have any advice for tomascohe ?
14:14 tomascohe  if we're not using an URL for the xsl file, the code triggers "warn getCwd";
14:13 tomascohe  it looks like its only a warn sentence in XSLT.pm
14:13 tomascohe  nope
14:13 munin      kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 29.0�C (4:00 PM CEST on June 28, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
14:13 kf         @wunder Konstanz
14:12 owen       tomascohe: Are there any more related errors?
14:12 kmkale     hey druthb
14:12 druthb     hi, kmkale and kf!
14:11 tomascohe  it happens in addbooks.pl too
14:10 tomascohe  [error] search.pl: /usr/share/koha_ffyh/intranet/cgi-bin/cae/koha_ffyh/lib/C4/XSLT.pm line 168., referer: http://ffyh.biblioadmin.unc.edu.ar/
14:10 tomascohe  hi all, 'im having a weird error message  can't figure out where to start looking
14:08 kmkale     hi all good evening
14:08 kf         hi all
13:41 munin      druthb: Quote #39: "chris <chris> nope, ive made it my aim in life not to learn js or html" (added by ricardo at 02:00 PM, October 07, 2009)
13:41 druthb     @quote random
13:40 munin      druthb: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 09:55 PM, June 11, 2009)
13:40 druthb     @quote random
13:39 munin      druthb: The operation succeeded.  Quote #81 added.
13:39 druthb     @quote add <owen> Free beer *and* free puppy, but be careful: the puppy is drunk.
13:39 jcamins    Where did the free puppy come from? Wasn't it a free kitten six months ago?
13:38 sekjal     and when I get really stressed out my left eyebrow turns partially white
13:38 munin      druthb: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
13:38 druthb     @quote add <owen> Free beer *and* free puppy, but be careful: the puppy is drunk.
13:37 sekjal     I've already got the laugh down
13:37 sekjal     mwahahahaa!
13:37 druthb     maybe we oughta take lessons in Evil from the conference planners.  That takes some talent.
13:37 owen       Free beer *and* free puppy, but be careful: the puppy is drunk.
13:37 sekjal     I think that's what the planners are hoping
13:36 * druthb   thinks right off the bat you're in for a wild session--when the title is a false dichotomy...
13:36 sekjal     hope I have wifi this afternoon; would be nice to tweet on a larger keyboard
13:35 druthb     Sounds like a planned hypergolic mixture.
13:34 sekjal     wondering if it'll be as fiery as it looks stacked to be:  Marshall Breeding, Karen Schneider and Stephen Abram, with Roy Tennant moderating
13:33 * druthb   is glad she's not at that one.
13:33 sekjal     oh, and there's a puppy now!
13:33 sekjal     Open Source:  Free Beer, or Free Puppy?
13:33 sekjal     I'm more worried about the peace being kept in the session afterwards
13:32 druthb     I have a slightly-used set of body armor, sekjal, just in case you need to borrow it.
13:32 sekjal     getting myself warmed up for the KUDOS meeting in a little less than 2 hours
13:31 * sekjal   waves back to druthb
13:31 * druthb   waves to sekjal
13:26 chris_n    bbl
13:22 * chris_n  finds that most of his funds are locked at all levels regardless of how hard he tries to access them ;-)
13:21 owen       Hmmm... A different indicator for "Locked" based on the reason for the lock?
13:19 owen       The problem was all my funds were locked at the budget level by a lock on the budget
13:17 * druthb   gets out the pig-a-pult.
13:17 druthb     That's what I thought.
13:17 munin      druthb: About as likely as pigs flying.
13:17 druthb     @eightball Catch up, maybe?
13:16 chris_n    with the budget question that is
13:16 * chris_n  concurs
13:15 druthb     Probably, yeah, unless a borrower had no branchcode, also.
13:15 owen       I wonder if that means a budget with no branch specified is always locked?
13:14 owen       I see: $budget_lock = 1 if $borrower_branchcode ne $budget->{budget_branchcode};
13:14 owen       ...but I'm the budget owner
13:14 owen       I see: $budget_lock = 1 if $borrower_id != $budget->{'budget_owner_id'};
13:14 owen       Why does a fund show up as locked on the budget planning page?
13:13 * druthb   takes the Sharpie from nengard, and hides it.  noooooo, chris_n, neither of us had *anything* to do with the writing on your forehead...nope.
13:12 nengard    thanks
13:11 jcamins    Happy birthday, nengard, and hello, #koha
13:06 nengard    thanks
13:06 chris_n    heya nengard, happy birthday
13:01 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4438 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, incorrect "Budget total exceeds period allocation" error when editing fund
13:01 owen       I wonder if anyone is working on Bug 4438?
12:56 nengard    no prob!!
12:56 druthb     thanks for sharing the birthday muffin with me, nengard.  It was tasty.
12:55 * druthb   agrees with collum.
12:53 collum     Happy Birthday nengard
12:53 * collum   finds yesterdays' Dilbert especially funny. http://bit.ly/at6PMu
12:52 nengard    thanks
12:52 hdl        happy birthday nengard
12:52 nengard    well I shared it with 2 others - but still
12:51 nengard    had me a birthday s'more last night: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/4740747022/
12:51 nengard    thank you :)
12:51 owen       Oh, nengard I owe you a happy birthday! Happy birthday! Belatedly :)
12:48 druthb     birthday girls get it *extra*;
12:47 nengard    ah - so birthday girls get picked on??? that's not what I was told :)
12:46 druthb     See?  I don't *just* pick on you.  You just got an extra dose since we were in-person, and it was your birthday.
12:46 nengard    oooo
12:45 * druthb   may do that to gmcharlt shortly--plenty of room there.
12:44 druthb     I suggest writing on his forehead, since he's not here.
12:44 nengard    druthb why do i need a sharpie?
12:43 nengard    .... i'm not sure why...
12:40 * druthb   hands nengard a Sharpie.
12:36 druthb     w00t!
12:36 nengard    chris_n around?
12:36 nengard    found me a free wifi in the exhibit floor!!
12:36 nengard    grrr
12:36 druthb     ssshh...owen, we gotta quit talking about her now; she's here!
12:36 nengard    hiya
12:35 owen       Hi nengard
12:12 druthb     yep.  for librarians, it's a beanie with a little book on top; for us geeks, it has a propeller.
12:11 owen       Non-members have to wear a special beanie too don't they?
12:11 druthb     well, yah.
12:11 owen       I'd have had to sneak some money to pay for a non-member ticket too
12:10 druthb     hee hee.  Shoulda snuck off to ALA.  :)
12:10 * owen     is jealous of his virtual friends meeting in meatspace
12:09 owen       Hi druthb!
12:09 druthb     Hi, owen!
12:08 sekjal     time to head out to the conference!  hope to be back on soon.
11:52 sekjal     druthb: likewise
11:52 druthb     sekjal, it was nice meeting you on the exhibit floor on Saturday. :)
11:51 sekjal     hi, druthb!
11:46 druthb     howdy, #koha!
11:04 Genji      okay, can i use GetMarcItem to create a simple marc record i can add to marcxml, without going through a template?
11:03 Genji      HIYA ALL
10:46 munin      chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 23.3�C (6:53 AM EDT on June 28, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 997.9 hPa (Steady).
10:46 chris_n    @wunder 28334
10:46 chris_n    g'morning
08:25 chris      hi Ropuch :)
08:24 Ropuch     Hello chris [;
08:24 Ropuch     Not that bad, in polsih 'koka' is short version of cocaine
08:19 chris      Ropuch: koka means aunt, or foster mother, or sometimes mother in maori :)
08:04 Ropuch     ;>
08:04 Ropuch     s/koka/koha
08:04 Ropuch     uh
08:04 Ropuch     Morning #koka
07:20 kf         good morning #koha
06:31 robin      kk
06:31 * chris    will bbiab kids to bed
06:31 robin      OK cool. deleting that made a difference.
06:31 chris      its opac-main.pl
06:31 chris      ahhh thats definitely a bug that should only be in hlt
06:30 robin      I don't know where from though
06:30 robin      oh. It's also pulling in home_colors.css
06:29 chris      weird
06:29 * robin    flushes caches
06:29 robin      hmm. It's still trying to use it.
06:28 chris      and we shoudl git rm it
06:28 chris      most installs dont use that
06:28 robin      OK
06:28 chris      right, id just remove the code in sysprefs to use colors.css
06:27 robin      clientwork
06:27 chris      could be, are you running master?
06:27 robin      chris: seems to be coming from colors.css ... perhaps you committed to the wrong branch at some point?
06:26 chris      and remove the opacmaincss in think it is
06:25 chris      take a look in the opac tab
06:25 chris      it'll be the css in the systempreferences
06:24 robin      chris: not quite :) any idea why my local dev install would be trying to fetch assets from library.,org.nz?
06:24 chris      am now robin, but i suspect you have headed home
05:03 cait       good morning #koha
04:58 robin      -g+d
04:58 robin      chris: you aroung?
04:35 Mehwish    OK I am trying that.
04:34 robin      Mehwish: just from the line that starts '#!/usr/bin/perl'
04:34 Mehwish    hmm.
04:34 wasabi     something like that ....
04:34 Mehwish    U mean I add this code in file kk.pl?
04:32 wasabi     Mehwish:  that will do it..
04:32 wasabi     http://paste.koha-community.org/12
04:32 Mehwish    Thanks
04:32 robin      at least you're spreading the hard work out over a longer time :)
04:32 Mehwish    hmm.. It seems some reasonable solution.
04:31 robin      basically, yeah
04:31 robin      It won't be fast, but with 2,000 items, it'll be over quick.
04:31 Mehwish    are u saying that I can run a query to give them barcode and then print out barcode list then attached a small chit
04:31 robin      Give each item in koha a barcode value. Pre-print sheets containing all the barcodes for all the books. When someone brings up a book with no barcode, look it up, find the barcode in the sheet, and attach it to the book.
04:30 Mehwish    Sorry I am not getting..
04:29 robin      that way it's not significantly slower.
04:29 robin      Mehwish: oh yeah, you can give them a barcode value now, but only attach the code to the book when you have to handle it.
04:28 wasabi     Mehwish: its only a small perl-script to mod your items to have a unique value in the barcode field
04:28 robin      someone else may have a better idea, but I'm not aware of one. Lurk around here or perhaps ask on the mailing list, someone may be able to help.
04:27 Mehwish    OK Thanks but that is very expensive solution I think.
04:25 robin      Yeah, I think so. I had a quick look and can't see an option to turn the checkout barcode box into a search box.
04:23 Mehwish    means we need to edit all record again and enter barcod for each by hand?
04:22 robin      No, I think that at the worst you'd just have to attach barcodes to them, all the information is going to remain the same so won't need to be entered.
04:22 Mehwish    we cannot afford that..
04:21 Mehwish    now do we have to enter all 2000 records again???
04:21 robin      I'm not aware of an option to change that, but it may be possible. I expect that almost everyone uses barcodes of some sort.
04:21 robin      Hmm, you're right. I haven't played with that part of the system much.
04:20 Mehwish    I cannot see any option other than entering barcode?
04:19 Mehwish    can they browse books select book and then checkout that book to a patron?
04:19 Mehwish    as entering barcode seems to me the only option for checkout.
04:18 Mehwish    Now how can a librarian checkout those books?
04:18 Mehwish    almost all without barcode.
04:17 Mehwish    OK we have entered more than 2000 records..
04:17 robin      A barcode just makes that process easier.
04:17 robin      Mehwish: a barcode isn't necessary, but some way of uniquely identifying each item is certainly useful, even if it's a number you type in by hand.
04:15 Mehwish    Is there any setting in Administration that enable me to checkout books without barcode information?
04:14 Mehwish    Is there any way to issue/checkout a book that do not have barcode?
04:13 Mehwish    cannot we issue / checkout a book without barcode information?
04:13 Mehwish    I want to ask is it necessary for every item to have a barcode?
04:12 Mehwish    Hello All!
04:04 robin      what is that _session_log gunk in C4::Auth doing there? It looks like it should be removed.
03:08 Amit       morning #koha
03:08 Amit       heya chris
02:23 chris_n    g'night
01:27 chris      yuck
01:27 Brendan    Well im wet enough for it to seem like rain
01:26 chris_n    raining?
01:26 Brendan    Yup
01:26 chris_n    ouch
01:26 munin      chris_n: The current temperature in Madison Cnty; 3 miles NE Haywood, Haywood, Virginia is 23.9�C (9:30 PM EDT on June 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Rising).
01:25 chris_n    @wunder 22727
01:25 chris      humid and hot Brendan ?
01:25 munin      chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 25.2�C (9:31 PM EDT on June 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 998.9 hPa (Steady).
01:25 chris_n    @wunder 28334
01:24 chris_n    yeah, its not CA
01:24 Brendan    Can't believe how much being outside suxs right now
01:24 chris_n    hehe
01:24 Brendan    Hot man
01:23 chris_n    how's DC?
01:23 chris_n    howdy Brendan
01:23 Brendan    Hi chris_n
01:23 chris_n    the sorry thing crashed
01:18 * chris_n  grumbles at his docbook editor
01:13 robin      well, now the function is no more well designed, but the indentation is correct and the bracketing style is consistent. So that's a start.
01:07 chris_n    :P
01:05 chris      :)
01:04 gmcharlt   test_cases++
00:59 chris_n    refactoring++
00:57 robin      but first, I'm doing some reformatting just so I can tell where blocks start and end.
00:57 robin      I'm going to be doing a little refactoring of it in order to make this work.
00:56 robin      gmcharlt: yes, that's correct :)
00:56 gmcharlt   the granular permissions stuff per se is only about 25 of those lines ;)
00:56 gmcharlt   chris: robin: no, its 400 lines because of code bloat and insufficient functional separation
00:51 chris      ah
00:51 robin      The loading the name from basic auth doesn't actually set up the user in the session, so other things blow up. I'm trying to work out how to deal with that.
00:50 robin      I'm not sure.
00:50 chris      its all do with the granular preferences and stuff eh?
00:49 robin      the checkauth function is ~400 lines long :(
00:24 robin      oh wait...not using a multithreading apache certainly helps, too.