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23:54 custard hello #koha,
23:52 pianohack moodaepo: Only to tie in with larsw's joke ;)
23:42 moodaepo chris: nice.
23:42 chris h
23:42 chris he
23:42 * moodaepo sees pianohack dissing Minnesota
23:41 chris cool anthony mao from taiwan confirms he is coming and can present, only 2 outstanding now
23:41 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 21.9�C (6:49 PM CDT on June 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 28.96 in 980.6 hPa (Falling).
23:41 moodaepo @wunder 56001
22:33 chris prolly cost more than a macbook
22:33 * sekjal unsticks velcro
22:33 sekjal alright, pulling into the station. got to bounce yet again.
22:32 sekjal next one is in San Diego, right? that'd be a wicked long ride
22:31 druthb I was gonna take acela to Boston for midwinter, then ended up not going.
22:31 druthb *nod* That's what I usually ride, too.
22:30 sekjal druthb: northeast regional
22:29 druthb you on northeast regional, or acela?
22:29 druthb yep.
22:28 sekjal druthb: yup, I'm about 10 minutes away. nice to have outlets to recharge my devices. all the sessions today drained them dry
22:28 pianohack larsw: See, but I think it's still preferable to minnesota
22:28 pianohack Oh, wow, that's a 25% export premium over the us
22:28 larsw Finlnad -- the land of a thousand typos
22:28 larsw pianohack, currently in NZ, born in Finlnad
22:27 druthb sekjal, that's a nice little ride---40 minutes or so, and cheap-cheap. I go to baltimore n back fairly often.
22:27 larsw entry level macbook in nz is nzd 1749 in the apple shop
22:27 pianohack larsw: USD. Just out of curiosity, where are you from?
22:27 chris sekjal: oooh cool
22:27 larsw pianohack, which country's dollars?
22:27 sekjal chris: train to Baltimore. my best friend gets married next weekend
22:26 chris sekjal: on the bus home?
22:26 pianohack chris: $950 for us lucky college entrants ;)
22:26 chris crazy
22:26 druthb The convention center is three loooong blocks long by two wide...huge place.
22:26 * sekjal is already outta DC
22:24 druthb Very much so, yes.
22:24 chris all conferenced out?
22:24 druthb hi, chris! :D
22:24 chris heya druthb :)
22:24 chris :)
22:23 pianohack (not _great_ used cars, but still)
22:23 chris whats an entry level macbook cost these days?
22:22 pianohack Even if you're going for, say, the entry level macbook as opposed to the macbook pro, which costs more than some used cars I've seen?
22:22 chris thats just my opinion though
22:21 chris frankly i dont think the hardware is good enough to justify the price, without OS X
22:21 chris i think about no where at all
22:21 pianohack Don't know if anyone's tried
22:21 pianohack Hmm. I wonder how far up the chain I could get with the a "Mac OS X tax" argument for a refund?
22:21 chris hehe
22:20 pianohack but anyway
22:20 pianohack I think I've been reading too much english class material, throwin' in adverbs for the hell of it
22:19 pianohack well, no
22:19 chris also, objective measures don't exist in an ethical sphere :)
22:19 chris if you were gonna buy it, reformat and put linux on, then nope, but you are buying their software .. and that is much worse than a lot of the software industry :)
22:18 larsw but, but, ... shiny! or dull! white! or black! metal! dull shiny aluminium metal! brushed! how can you you not want to give all your money to them!
22:18 chris (theres more than just foxconn too im afraid)
22:18 pianohack Yes, those things suck, but are they objectively much worse than the rest of the computer _hardware_ industry?
22:18 chris proprietary code too, but that goes without saying :)
22:17 pianohack so drm, patents and foxconn
22:16 chris i don't like their drm and lock in practices, i dont like the patent threats steve jobs makes, i don't like the working conditions of the people who make their products
22:16 pianohack okay
22:15 chris with some practical thrown in as well
22:15 chris its pretty much all ethical
22:15 chris heh
22:10 pianohack chris: so maybe not the best time to go into your reasons for not liking apple?
22:10 pianohack ah
22:06 chris semi
22:05 pianohack also, chris: around?
22:05 pianohack morning all
21:45 chris yep thats exactly what happened
21:45 robin It looks like the httpauth stuff was written a long time ago, and kina forgotten about, it doesn't really work just yet :)
21:44 chris yup
21:44 robin ohh. I can have a session without a cookie if httpauth is being used - it just ties the session to the userid, that could work.
21:43 robin chris: what gets stored in the session? It looks like it's a bunch of information about the user, I assume that's used to reduce db lookups?
21:42 chris it can go on the list for 3.4
21:38 * robin wishes he had the time to rewrite the auth system - is currently very hard to make changes to :(
21:32 gmcharlt larsw++
21:32 gmcharlt robin++
21:32 chris sweet :)
21:08 cait bye all
21:00 larsw yay
20:59 robin chris: so, there's a new Debian package policy version out, which I think gives me an excuse to make myself the maintainer of larsw's packages.
20:25 richard hi
19:19 owen gmcharlt?
18:54 chris bbiab
18:54 chris ahh thats unhelpful
18:54 owen Trying to export one of my problem records gives me a 0-byte file
18:51 chris or something similair
18:51 chris marclint marc_file_name | less
18:51 chris so
18:47 chris it looks through your records and finds mistakes
18:47 chris apt-get install libmarc-lint-perl
18:47 chris you may have to install marclint
18:47 chris it should explode when it gets to the bad character, or at least tell you it saw one
18:46 chris then run marcdump on it
18:46 chris if you export the marc
18:45 owen chris, can you elaborate on "run marcdump or marclint on it?"
18:24 chris in this case
18:24 chris its from parsing the xml using xslt
18:24 wizzyrea (I'm still trying to understand)
18:24 wizzyrea this comes from the index?
18:24 wizzyrea so one bad character in one bad field causes it to puke?
18:23 chris and warn the librarian one is bad
18:23 chris we should show the other 19
18:23 chris we shouldnt explode cos one record is bad
18:23 chris but i think that a 500 is bad in that case too
18:22 chris yeah
18:20 owen Why does such an error not trigger a page like we get for a 404 or 500 error?
18:19 owen "the general issue" I refer to is the fact that if debug level is 0 you get a blank page with "production mode - trapped fatal error"
18:17 wizzyrea agreed
18:17 wizzyrea ^^
18:17 cait get well chris
18:17 chris imho
18:17 chris and do a big red warning in the staff side
18:16 chris we should skip the record in the opac
18:16 chris definitely something we want to fix in future
18:16 sekjal out of battery. chris, feel even better, #koha, take care! hope to be back on soon
18:16 owen Nothing relevant to the general issue turns up in a search of Bugzilla for "trapped"
18:16 chris getting better i thnk, i feel better than yesterday, not 100% yet tho
18:15 owen :(
18:15 chris this early morning help is brought to by chris' stomach bug
18:14 chris owen: is there a bug on it do you know?
18:14 chris good luck finding it
18:14 chris no problem
18:14 tomascohe thanks again
18:14 chris might help you find it
18:14 * owen recalls ranting about that recently
18:14 chris then run marcdump or marclint on it
18:13 tomascohe chris: thats a good idea
18:13 chris tomascohe: you could export the marc
18:13 chris cos thats just lame
18:13 tomascohe thanks, i'll try to figure how to check it algorithmically in the databse
18:13 chris we should also fix it so a bad record doesnt kill everything
18:12 chris i think so
18:11 tomascohe should ? look for the problem in the first results list records?
18:10 tomascohe you where right, it worked
18:10 chris yeah try that, it might help us spot the bad record
18:10 tomascohe yes, i'm turning it off
18:09 chris tomascohe: do you have display results using XSLT turned on?
18:09 chris yeah
18:09 chris at least one record in the search results will break it
18:09 owen One bad record throwing off the parsing of the XML in the result set?
18:09 chris e
18:09 chris but its definitely som
18:09 chris well its not all, as borges works
18:08 tomascohe should i look for coding problems in ALL the records?
18:08 owen Perhaps a problem with the XSLT parsing of the search results?
18:08 tomascohe its a problem with a generic zebra search
18:08 tomascohe the problem (in my side) is that it is not refereed to A record
18:07 chris looks like the record has some bad characters in it
18:07 tomascohe opac-search.pl: Wide character in subroutine entry at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/Charset/Table.pm line 96
18:07 chris what does the apache error log tell you?
18:06 tomascohe http://ffyh.biblio.unc.edu.ar
18:06 tomascohe please try this opac instead, its the same problem
18:06 tomascohe philosophy, journal, etc
18:05 tomascohe its just some words
18:05 tomascohe if you search borges everything works fine
18:05 wizzyrea I get a DNS one as well
18:05 tomascohe i'm trying to show an error
18:04 chris i get a dns one
18:04 owen I've seen that error many times
18:04 owen "production mode - trapped fatal error" Is that the point?
18:04 wizzyrea me either :(
18:04 chris doesnt work for me tomascohe
18:03 tomascohe wizzyrea: my mistake, here goes http://ffyh2.biblio.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=journal
18:02 sekjal for whatever it's worth
18:02 chris :)
18:02 sekjal there, I've definitely stated my position
18:02 chris im with you
18:02 sekjal KUDOS is not Koha. koha.org should not be the KUDOS site. that's what links are for
18:01 tomascohe oops
18:00 wizzyrea ah, that requires a login
18:00 tomascohe has anyone seen sthing like this? http://ffyh2.biblioadmin.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=journal
18:00 owen "Could."
18:00 sekjal no promises could be made about such a turnover, whether KUDOS would 'own' koha.org' outright, or if PTFS would retain control, and give license to KUDOS to maintain the site
17:59 wizzyrea if they turned it over to kudos, kudos could turn it over to koha-community :P
17:59 chris kudos.koha-community.org can work right now if desired
17:59 chris if the domain was in control of the community, kudos.koha-community.org and kudos.koha.org could both work, and point to kudos.org
17:59 wizzyrea well
17:57 sekjal agreed
17:57 chris unless yes it was pointed to the world site
17:57 chris i can only see that as driving a wedge into the community
17:56 sekjal KUDOS needs a website. kudos.org is available.... but some folks want to leverage the SEO of koha.org, rather than letting it rot
17:56 sekjal having koha.org in the hands of a non-profit users group would be better than nothing, but it should point to the world site. period
17:55 owen No to mention a slap in the face of every non-US Koha enthusiast
17:55 * owen agrees
17:55 chris looks like a slap in the face to HLT and the people who voted for hlt to hold community property to me
17:55 sekjal owen: it was talked about at KUDOS, yes
17:52 owen-away sekjal: PTFS is considering turning over koha.org to KUDOS?
17:47 sekjal twitter has crunched down on search results for the conference IP... ugh
17:12 sekjal may lose WiFi for a couple minutes...
17:11 sekjal KUDOS meeting wrapped and tweeted. On to the Ultimate Debate (with leftover food)
17:05 chris_n lol
17:05 munin gmcharlt: Quote #28: "<owen> I'm glad munin doesn't follow me around all day remembering *everything* I say." (added by jdavidb at 09:14 AM, September 01, 2009)
17:05 gmcharlt @quote random
16:52 owen http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Guided_reports_RFC
16:52 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3929 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, parameters in guided reports
16:52 owen There are unfixed issues in the RFC comments, but I'm tempted to mark Bug 3929 as fixed since the basics are in place
16:43 * collum is looking at git commands and is amazed by the number of commands
16:39 * owen wonders why 'git status' wouldn't suffice... Perhaps he manages too few files in one go
16:39 chris_n owen: I'd bet so
16:31 owen I get no output from that at all. Does that only work with files removed from your branch?
16:29 munin druthb: Highest karma: "chris" (149), "gmcharlt" (149), and "owen" (117). Lowest karma: "<!" (-57), "failed" (-40), and "-" (-25).
16:29 druthb @karma
16:28 munin druthb: Karma for "collum" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5.
16:28 druthb @karma collum
16:28 druthb collum++
16:28 collum According to http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-ls-files.html
16:27 collum owen: git ls-files -d
16:23 owen How can I find information in git about a file that has been removed?
16:15 owen Thanks. Lots of "patch sent" bug reports needing follow-up!
16:13 chris_n owen gets the "kitten of the day" award (so far) :)
16:11 cait owen++
15:49 sekjal owen: sure thing
15:42 owen sekjal: Say hi to Kudos for me
15:40 cait hi #koha and druthb :)
15:40 gmcharlt hi druthb :)
15:40 druthb Hi, gmcharlt and cait! :)
15:38 gmcharlt good afternoon
15:24 sekjal yup, free wifi here, so I'm on my full keyboard
15:23 nengard sekjal is at the Kudos meeting now
15:10 * druthb velcroes sekjal down
15:03 hdl tomascohe: I will remove the warning.
15:03 hdl tomascohe: you're welcome.
15:01 tomascohe s
15:01 tomascohe thank
15:01 tomascohe i'll look at it and if i find something interesting will come back with this
15:00 tomascohe hdl: ok, if i leave the 'warn' i see an error message for each search i do
14:56 hdl tomascohe: the parser is stored in a HASH. So parsing XSLT should be done only for the first result
14:54 tomascohe hdl: i watn to use xslt's, just saying the code looks inneficient, with a los of innecesary i/o for just showing results or biblios
14:53 kf bye all, bbl
14:52 hdl tomascohe: you can set all XSLT variables to '' and you won't use XSLTs
14:47 kf sekjal: cool
14:47 sekjal and with that, time to get ready for KUDOS. Hope to have connection so I can report the proceedings. Cheers!
14:46 sekjal kf: there is git send-email as a function, and you can also add hooks to run arbitrary scripts before or after certain events, like commits
14:37 tomascohe which at first sight, cuold be in (some way) in C4::Context
14:36 kf owen: not sure git can send emails, but it would perhaps makes things a bit easier, needs a correct bug number in submit messages
14:35 hdl owen: git-bz can help you ;)
14:35 tomascohe the xsl filename
14:35 tomascohe hdl: of course, what i meant is that every time an xsl file is requested we do a lot of parsing on
14:35 kf perhaps just an update like galen does now: patch pushed, plz test and close
14:33 owen kf: I'm not sure how we'd indicate it in Bugzilla.... another priority setting for "patch-pushed?"
14:33 kf owen: perhaps you could make git send an email to bugzilla?
14:32 hdl tomascohe: you can set all XSLT variables to '' and you won't use XSLTs
14:31 tomascohe don't we have the xslt parameter in a variable?
14:31 tomascohe but i'd like to know if it would be better that we don't get into that code every time
14:30 tomascohe it looks safe to remove
14:30 owen It's too bad Bugzilla can't track when a patch has been pushed
14:30 hdl Saw that.
14:29 tomascohe hdl: 3.0.6
14:26 hdl can be safely removed
14:26 hdl on line 168 of C4/XSLT.pm
14:25 hdl tomascohe: this is an unconditional warn.
14:23 hdl But not on master
14:23 hdl on 3.0.x yes.
14:21 * owen saw it in 3.0.x on gitweb
14:21 hdl owen: the changes I proposed were not pushed iirc.
14:20 hdl On community/master I donot see any warn getCwd issued
14:20 hdl tomascohe: which version are you using.
14:19 owen Hi hdl, tomascohe has a question about XSLT.pm which I think relates to a change you made
14:19 hdl owen: I am here.
14:19 owen gmcharlt around?
14:17 owen hdl, do you have any advice for tomascohe ?
14:14 tomascohe if we're not using an URL for the xsl file, the code triggers "warn getCwd";
14:13 tomascohe it looks like its only a warn sentence in XSLT.pm
14:13 tomascohe nope
14:13 munin kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 29.0�C (4:00 PM CEST on June 28, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
14:13 kf @wunder Konstanz
14:12 owen tomascohe: Are there any more related errors?
14:12 kmkale hey druthb
14:12 druthb hi, kmkale and kf!
14:11 tomascohe it happens in addbooks.pl too
14:10 tomascohe [error] search.pl: /usr/share/koha_ffyh/intranet/cgi-bin/cae/koha_ffyh/lib/C4/XSLT.pm line 168., referer: http://ffyh.biblioadmin.unc.edu.ar/
14:10 tomascohe hi all, 'im having a weird error message can't figure out where to start looking
14:08 kmkale hi all good evening
14:08 kf hi all
13:41 munin druthb: Quote #39: "chris <chris> nope, ive made it my aim in life not to learn js or html" (added by ricardo at 02:00 PM, October 07, 2009)
13:41 druthb @quote random
13:40 munin druthb: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 09:55 PM, June 11, 2009)
13:40 druthb @quote random
13:39 munin druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #81 added.
13:39 druthb @quote add <owen> Free beer *and* free puppy, but be careful: the puppy is drunk.
13:39 jcamins Where did the free puppy come from? Wasn't it a free kitten six months ago?
13:38 sekjal and when I get really stressed out my left eyebrow turns partially white
13:38 munin druthb: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
13:38 druthb @quote add <owen> Free beer *and* free puppy, but be careful: the puppy is drunk.
13:37 sekjal I've already got the laugh down
13:37 sekjal mwahahahaa!
13:37 druthb maybe we oughta take lessons in Evil from the conference planners. That takes some talent.
13:37 owen Free beer *and* free puppy, but be careful: the puppy is drunk.
13:37 sekjal I think that's what the planners are hoping
13:36 * druthb thinks right off the bat you're in for a wild session--when the title is a false dichotomy...
13:36 sekjal hope I have wifi this afternoon; would be nice to tweet on a larger keyboard
13:35 druthb Sounds like a planned hypergolic mixture.
13:34 sekjal wondering if it'll be as fiery as it looks stacked to be: Marshall Breeding, Karen Schneider and Stephen Abram, with Roy Tennant moderating
13:33 * druthb is glad she's not at that one.
13:33 sekjal oh, and there's a puppy now!
13:33 sekjal Open Source: Free Beer, or Free Puppy?
13:33 sekjal I'm more worried about the peace being kept in the session afterwards
13:32 druthb I have a slightly-used set of body armor, sekjal, just in case you need to borrow it.
13:32 sekjal getting myself warmed up for the KUDOS meeting in a little less than 2 hours
13:31 * sekjal waves back to druthb
13:31 * druthb waves to sekjal
13:26 chris_n bbl
13:22 * chris_n finds that most of his funds are locked at all levels regardless of how hard he tries to access them ;-)
13:21 owen Hmmm... A different indicator for "Locked" based on the reason for the lock?
13:19 owen The problem was all my funds were locked at the budget level by a lock on the budget
13:17 * druthb gets out the pig-a-pult.
13:17 druthb That's what I thought.
13:17 munin druthb: About as likely as pigs flying.
13:17 druthb @eightball Catch up, maybe?
13:16 chris_n with the budget question that is
13:16 * chris_n concurs
13:15 druthb Probably, yeah, unless a borrower had no branchcode, also.
13:15 owen I wonder if that means a budget with no branch specified is always locked?
13:14 owen I see: $budget_lock = 1 if $borrower_branchcode ne $budget->{budget_branchcode};
13:14 owen ...but I'm the budget owner
13:14 owen I see: $budget_lock = 1 if $borrower_id != $budget->{'budget_owner_id'};
13:14 owen Why does a fund show up as locked on the budget planning page?
13:13 * druthb takes the Sharpie from nengard, and hides it. noooooo, chris_n, neither of us had *anything* to do with the writing on your forehead...nope.
13:12 nengard thanks
13:11 jcamins Happy birthday, nengard, and hello, #koha
13:06 nengard thanks
13:06 chris_n heya nengard, happy birthday
13:01 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4438 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, incorrect "Budget total exceeds period allocation" error when editing fund
13:01 owen I wonder if anyone is working on Bug 4438?
12:56 nengard no prob!!
12:56 druthb thanks for sharing the birthday muffin with me, nengard. It was tasty.
12:55 * druthb agrees with collum.
12:53 collum Happy Birthday nengard
12:53 * collum finds yesterdays' Dilbert especially funny. http://bit.ly/at6PMu
12:52 nengard thanks
12:52 hdl happy birthday nengard
12:52 nengard well I shared it with 2 others - but still
12:51 nengard had me a birthday s'more last night: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/4740747022/
12:51 nengard thank you :)
12:51 owen Oh, nengard I owe you a happy birthday! Happy birthday! Belatedly :)
12:48 druthb birthday girls get it *extra*;
12:47 nengard ah - so birthday girls get picked on??? that's not what I was told :)
12:46 druthb See? I don't *just* pick on you. You just got an extra dose since we were in-person, and it was your birthday.
12:46 nengard oooo
12:45 * druthb may do that to gmcharlt shortly--plenty of room there.
12:44 druthb I suggest writing on his forehead, since he's not here.
12:44 nengard druthb why do i need a sharpie?
12:43 nengard .... i'm not sure why...
12:40 * druthb hands nengard a Sharpie.
12:36 druthb w00t!
12:36 nengard chris_n around?
12:36 nengard found me a free wifi in the exhibit floor!!
12:36 nengard grrr
12:36 druthb ssshh...owen, we gotta quit talking about her now; she's here!
12:36 nengard hiya
12:35 owen Hi nengard
12:12 druthb yep. for librarians, it's a beanie with a little book on top; for us geeks, it has a propeller.
12:11 owen Non-members have to wear a special beanie too don't they?
12:11 druthb well, yah.
12:11 owen I'd have had to sneak some money to pay for a non-member ticket too
12:10 druthb hee hee. Shoulda snuck off to ALA. :)
12:10 * owen is jealous of his virtual friends meeting in meatspace
12:09 owen Hi druthb!
12:09 druthb Hi, owen!
12:08 sekjal time to head out to the conference! hope to be back on soon.
11:52 sekjal druthb: likewise
11:52 druthb sekjal, it was nice meeting you on the exhibit floor on Saturday. :)
11:51 sekjal hi, druthb!
11:46 druthb howdy, #koha!
11:04 Genji okay, can i use GetMarcItem to create a simple marc record i can add to marcxml, without going through a template?
11:03 Genji HIYA ALL
10:46 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 23.3�C (6:53 AM EDT on June 28, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 997.9 hPa (Steady).
10:46 chris_n @wunder 28334
10:46 chris_n g'morning
08:25 chris hi Ropuch :)
08:24 Ropuch Hello chris [;
08:24 Ropuch Not that bad, in polsih 'koka' is short version of cocaine
08:19 chris Ropuch: koka means aunt, or foster mother, or sometimes mother in maori :)
08:04 Ropuch ;>
08:04 Ropuch s/koka/koha
08:04 Ropuch uh
08:04 Ropuch Morning #koka
07:20 kf good morning #koha
06:31 robin kk
06:31 * chris will bbiab kids to bed
06:31 robin OK cool. deleting that made a difference.
06:31 chris its opac-main.pl
06:31 chris ahhh thats definitely a bug that should only be in hlt
06:30 robin I don't know where from though
06:30 robin oh. It's also pulling in home_colors.css
06:29 chris weird
06:29 * robin flushes caches
06:29 robin hmm. It's still trying to use it.
06:28 chris and we shoudl git rm it
06:28 chris most installs dont use that
06:28 robin OK
06:28 chris right, id just remove the code in sysprefs to use colors.css
06:27 robin clientwork
06:27 chris could be, are you running master?
06:27 robin chris: seems to be coming from colors.css ... perhaps you committed to the wrong branch at some point?
06:26 chris and remove the opacmaincss in think it is
06:25 chris take a look in the opac tab
06:25 chris it'll be the css in the systempreferences
06:24 robin chris: not quite :) any idea why my local dev install would be trying to fetch assets from library.,org.nz?
06:24 chris am now robin, but i suspect you have headed home
05:03 cait good morning #koha
04:58 robin -g+d
04:58 robin chris: you aroung?
04:35 Mehwish OK I am trying that.
04:34 robin Mehwish: just from the line that starts '#!/usr/bin/perl'
04:34 Mehwish hmm.
04:34 wasabi something like that ....
04:34 Mehwish U mean I add this code in file kk.pl?
04:32 wasabi Mehwish: that will do it..
04:32 wasabi http://paste.koha-community.org/12
04:32 Mehwish Thanks
04:32 robin at least you're spreading the hard work out over a longer time :)
04:32 Mehwish hmm.. It seems some reasonable solution.
04:31 robin basically, yeah
04:31 robin It won't be fast, but with 2,000 items, it'll be over quick.
04:31 Mehwish are u saying that I can run a query to give them barcode and then print out barcode list then attached a small chit
04:31 robin Give each item in koha a barcode value. Pre-print sheets containing all the barcodes for all the books. When someone brings up a book with no barcode, look it up, find the barcode in the sheet, and attach it to the book.
04:30 Mehwish Sorry I am not getting..
04:29 robin that way it's not significantly slower.
04:29 robin Mehwish: oh yeah, you can give them a barcode value now, but only attach the code to the book when you have to handle it.
04:28 wasabi Mehwish: its only a small perl-script to mod your items to have a unique v alue in the barcode field
04:28 robin someone else may have a better idea, but I'm not aware of one. Lurk around here or perhaps ask on the mailing list, someone may be able to help.
04:27 Mehwish OK Thanks but that is very expensive solution I think.
04:25 robin Yeah, I think so. I had a quick look and can't see an option to turn the checkout barcode box into a search box.
04:23 Mehwish means we need to edit all record again and enter barcod for each by hand?
04:22 robin No, I think that at the worst you'd just have to attach barcodes to them, all the information is going to remain the same so won't need to be entered.
04:22 Mehwish we cannot afford that..
04:21 Mehwish now do we have to enter all 2000 records again???
04:21 robin I'm not aware of an option to change that, but it may be possible. I expect that almost everyone uses barcodes of some sort.
04:21 robin Hmm, you're right. I haven't played with that part of the system much.
04:20 Mehwish I cannot see any option other than entering barcode?
04:19 Mehwish can they browse books select book and then checkout that book to a patron?
04:19 Mehwish as entering barcode seems to me the only option for checkout.
04:18 Mehwish Now how can a librarian checkout those books?
04:18 Mehwish almost all without barcode.
04:17 Mehwish OK we have entered more than 2000 records..
04:17 robin A barcode just makes that process easier.
04:17 robin Mehwish: a barcode isn't necessary, but some way of uniquely identifying each item is certainly useful, even if it's a number you type in by hand.
04:15 Mehwish Is there any setting in Administration that enable me to checkout books without barcode information?
04:14 Mehwish Is there any way to issue/checkout a book that do not have barcode?
04:13 Mehwish cannot we issue / checkout a book without barcode information?
04:13 Mehwish I want to ask is it necessary for every item to have a barcode?
04:12 Mehwish Hello All!
04:04 robin what is that _session_log gunk in C4::Auth doing there? It looks like it should be removed.
03:08 Amit morning #koha
03:08 Amit heya chris
02:23 chris_n g'night
01:27 chris yuck
01:27 Brendan Well im wet enough for it to seem like rain
01:26 chris_n raining?
01:26 Brendan Yup
01:26 chris_n ouch
01:26 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Madison Cnty; 3 miles NE Haywood, Haywood, Virginia is 23.9�C (9:30 PM EDT on June 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Rising).
01:25 chris_n @wunder 22727
01:25 chris humid and hot Brendan ?
01:25 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 25.2�C (9:31 PM EDT on June 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 998.9 hPa (Steady).
01:25 chris_n @wunder 28334
01:24 chris_n yeah, its not CA
01:24 Brendan Can't believe how much being outside suxs right now
01:24 chris_n hehe
01:24 Brendan Hot man
01:23 chris_n how's DC?
01:23 chris_n howdy Brendan
01:23 Brendan Hi chris_n
01:23 chris_n the sorry thing crashed
01:18 * chris_n grumbles at his docbook editor
01:13 robin well, now the function is no more well designed, but the indentation is correct and the bracketing style is consistent. So that's a start.
01:07 chris_n :P
01:05 chris :)
01:04 gmcharlt test_cases++
00:59 chris_n refactoring++
00:57 robin but first, I'm doing some reformatting just so I can tell where blocks start and end.
00:57 robin I'm going to be doing a little refactoring of it in order to make this work.
00:56 robin gmcharlt: yes, that's correct :)
00:56 gmcharlt the granular permissions stuff per se is only about 25 of those lines ;)
00:56 gmcharlt chris: robin: no, its 400 lines because of code bloat and insufficient functional separation
00:51 chris ah
00:51 robin The loading the name from basic auth doesn't actually set up the user in the session, so other things blow up. I'm trying to work out how to deal with that.
00:50 robin I'm not sure.
00:50 chris its all do with the granular preferences and stuff eh?
00:49 robin the checkauth function is ~400 lines long :(
00:24 robin oh wait...not using a multithreading apache certainly helps, too.