Time Nick Message 00:47 chris hi brendan 00:47 brendan heya chris 00:55 gmcharlt_ hi brendan 00:56 brendan hi gmcharlt_ - see you at ALA in a few days :) 00:56 gmcharlt_ indeed 00:56 gmcharlt_ how's the booth looking? 00:57 brendan great - that's all Nate's department 00:57 brendan no big tree though ;) 00:58 gmcharlt_ heh 00:58 gmcharlt_ no big tree for us either, this time 01:05 brendan how am I going to find you all? 01:05 brendan I guess I'll have to rely on booth numbers 01:14 chris :) 01:14 chris gps 01:16 wasabi i'm in the middle of a tricky zebra issue... 01:18 wasabi ... trying to work out why a title-search on a single chinese character, returns a result *without* that character in the $TITLE string 01:19 wasabi ahh, its a subtle mapping issue, in the zebra *chr* files 01:24 chris wb wizzyrea_ 01:29 wasabi hmmmm, it looks like 'å®®' gets mapped to 'ä¸' in the zebra *chr* files 01:30 * wasabi finds the needle in the haystack... 01:31 wizzyrea_ ty ty 01:35 reed robin is the king of freaky unicode issues, he might can help 01:35 reed (at least he seems to be able to generate a lot of them) 01:44 wasabi heh, thanx reed 02:36 wasabi hmm, the zebra-searching issue continues... 02:37 wasabi i'm testing on a small 500 bib set 02:38 wasabi and a title-search for 'ä¸' returns 3 results 02:39 wasabi one result's title is simply 'Favourite Philippine folk songs [sound recording]' 02:39 wasabi why zebra returned that result is a mystery to me 02:40 chris you have totally flushed the index, ie, dropped and recreated it? 02:40 wasabi yep 'rebuild_zebra.pl -r -b -v -x' 02:40 wasabi -r is reset 02:41 chris sometimes, not always, it doesnt work 02:41 wasabi aaah 02:41 chris http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#5 02:42 chris might not fix anything, but might be worth a try 02:42 wasabi very nice 02:42 wasabi ok, ill retest, doing that 02:49 wasabi still no change - for now.. :/ 02:49 chris dang 02:52 wasabi http://vm7.kohaaloha.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=ti&q=%E4%B8%AD 02:52 chris i see why the middle one matches 02:53 wasabi yah ;) , but the other two... ?! 02:53 chris theres not something else in the marc .. thats not viewable in the web view, ie, have you checked the marcxml ? 02:53 wasabi zebrasrv says.... 02:53 wasabi zebrasrv(46) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x019)(\xE4\xB8\xAD.*) 02:54 wasabi yes, i generally eyeballed the marcxml 02:54 chris ok 02:55 chris is it that * 02:55 wasabi but not for records 1-3 yet.. 02:55 chris in your options 02:55 chris try turning stemming off? 02:55 wasabi aah, click 02:56 wasabi zebra's doing clever stemming/fuzzy stuff ? 02:56 chris thats my guess 02:56 chris you should be able to turn that off in sysprefs 02:56 wasabi yeah, makes sense 02:57 wasabi ta, ill do that now.. 02:57 chris good luck 02:58 wasabi thanx again for the brain-slap! 03:00 Amit heya chris 03:00 chris hi Amit 03:04 wasabi ive flicked OFF QueryStemming, QueryWeightFields, QueryFuzzy sysprefs 03:05 wasabi still the same 3 results 03:06 wasabi and still the same search-request to zebra 03:06 wasabi 15:12:12-22/06 zebrasrv(55) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x019)(\xE4\xB8\xAD.*) 03:06 wasabi 15:12:12-22/06 zebrasrv(55) [request] Search biblios OK 3 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @attr 1=4 @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 ä¸ 03:06 chris im out of ideas 03:06 wasabi yeah, me too - for now at least 03:07 wasabi at least it's an easy to replicate search-glitch 03:08 wasabi which means more people can observe/poke at it 03:17 * wasabi waves at amit 03:17 Amit heya wasabi(mason) 03:17 wasabi ;) back from your holiday ? 03:24 Amit yes 04:30 pianohack 'night! 06:15 brendan @roulette 06:15 munin brendan: *click* 06:50 kf good morning #koha 06:54 magnus good morning kf et al 06:58 kf good morning magnus 06:59 magnus @wunder bodo, norway 06:59 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (8:50 AM CEST on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 06:59 magnus @wunder tromso, norway 06:59 munin magnus: Error: No such location could be found. 06:59 magnus @wunder tromsoe, norway 06:59 munin magnus: Error: No such location could be found. 06:59 magnus hm 06:59 fredericd @wunder paris, france 06:59 munin fredericd: The current temperature in Paris, France is 13.0�C (9:00 AM CEST on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 06:59 fredericd hello magnus 07:00 magnus @wunder oslo, norway 07:00 munin magnus: The current temperature in Harestua, Harestua, Norway is 18.9�C (9:00 AM CEST on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Pressure: 28.97 in 980.9 hPa (Steady). 07:00 magnus hello fredericd 07:01 kf hi fredericd 07:01 kf @wunder Konstanz 07:01 munin kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 13.0�C (9:00 AM CEST on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa (Rising). 07:01 kf hm perhaps no rain toda 07:01 kf y 07:02 kf does someone know what mantis is? 07:03 kf ah, googled it. biblibre's bugzilla. 07:03 magnus yep 07:48 chris evening 07:50 kf hi chris 07:52 magnus hiya chris 07:52 magnus looks like you will have plenty to do as RM... ;-) 07:52 chris heh 07:52 chris yup 07:53 chris ill be leaning on others to help too 07:53 magnus good! 08:02 chris ill be trying to use it to show people how i use branches etc as well, which with git, like perl, is just one way to do it 08:02 chris but it might be helpful 08:14 kf hmpf 08:14 chris ? 08:15 kf sorry 08:15 kf writing on a sql report 08:17 kf fighting with joins, hmpf is my harrumph 08:18 chris ah 08:20 kf a report with dates of fines and notices for a borrowernumber 08:20 chris cool 08:23 kf not yet 08:23 kf I wanted something to get a quick overview for testing 08:26 chris what bit are you stuck on? 08:28 kf im quite at the beginning, but thx :) 08:28 chris :) 08:30 hdl Hi all 08:30 GuruAhuja Greeting to all Koha Members 08:32 kf hi hdl and GuruAhuja 08:32 GuruAhuja can any one help me with the installation and implementation of koha 08:34 hdl have you tried debian packages install ? 08:35 GuruAhuja not yet 08:35 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 08:35 GuruAhuja can you give me the line for the same 08:36 Amit heya guruAhuja 08:58 GuruAhuja hi Amit 08:58 GuruAhuja how are you 08:58 GuruAhuja seems another Indian there 08:58 Amit yes 09:00 GuruAhuja Amit ur location please 09:00 Amit Bangalore urs 09:04 GuruAhuja Chandigarh 09:04 GuruAhuja have you deployed Koha 09:04 Amit y 09:06 GuruAhuja that means you can help us 09:06 GuruAhuja I have just started to do so. 09:10 GuruAhuja can pls you help 11:21 chris hi jdavidb 11:22 jdavidb hi, chris! :D 11:29 kf hi jdavidb 11:30 jdavidb hi, kf! :D 11:40 kf hi jwagner 11:41 * jdavidb waves at jwagner 11:41 hdl hi all 11:43 jwagner Morning, all. 11:45 chris_n g'morning 11:49 Nate morning chris_n! 11:55 magnus good morning us of a 12:40 owen Hi #koha 12:43 jdavidb hi, owen! :D 14:16 kf hm 14:16 kf I cant save a new notice in head - can someone perhaps confirm? 14:16 kf I have no error message in koha-error.log 14:18 kf ok, I thinkt here is a problem when you change the module for the notice 14:32 * chris_n checks in to see if anyone is awake 14:33 * owen is awake but in Drupal-land again 14:34 sekjal if I'm still asleep, this is the most realistic work dream yet 14:35 kf not asleep, playing with selenium ide 14:53 chris_n @wunder 28334 14:53 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 34.0�C (10:56 AM EDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady). 14:53 chris_n bad day for the ac to break down 15:13 jdavidb @wunder 20817 15:13 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 31.3�C (11:20 AM EDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Rising). 15:26 * collum is also in Drupal-land basking in the rays of Solr 15:27 * jwagner feels all lonely, stuck in the real world of DC-area heat and humidity. No Solr fun.... 16:22 jwagner @quote random 16:22 munin jwagner: Quote #9: "pianohacker ponders drumstick->ear as a method of food acquisition...We haven't gone to this good mexican restaurant in a while..." (added by wizzyrea at 04:23 PM, June 19, 2009) 16:27 chris_n @quote random 16:27 munin chris_n: Quote #24: "<kmkale> interesting word munin. in many indian languages we have a word munim who used to be a sort of accountant for all businessmen" (added by gmcharlt at 10:07 AM, August 07, 2009) 16:32 schuster jwagner - schuster feels your pain... 16:32 schuster wunder 75074 16:34 schuster @wunder 75074 16:34 munin schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 35.6�C (11:30 AM CDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.38 in 994.8 hPa (Steady). 16:45 jwagner schuster, whose bright idea was it to have August heat and humidity in June??? 16:45 schuster Not mine - we've been running almost 100 degrees since June 2nd. 16:46 brendan @wunder 93117 16:46 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.5�C (9:52 AM PDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Rising). 16:46 * brendan goes to grab a sweater ;) 16:46 collum @wunder 41011 16:47 munin collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is 30.7�C (12:50 PM EDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Falling). 16:47 collum perfect 16:47 jwagner Harrumph. 16:47 * jwagner goes off to see if lunch will improve the day :-( 16:50 * collum unfortunately can't see the weather from his basement bunker 16:53 schuster brendan don't make me slap you through the monitor... 16:54 schuster jwagner sounds about right for me too... working 7-5:30 to have fridays off makes for a long day! 17:02 kf by äkoha 17:02 kf #koha 17:03 kf ok, again: bye #koha 17:03 kf really time to go :) 17:28 * jwagner is still grumpy :-( 17:30 * pianohack gives jwagner food 17:30 pianohack That's my way of staying happy 17:31 pianohack Which reminds me 17:31 * pianohack goes and heats up some pizza 17:31 jwagner mmmmmmm....... 18:10 Mathieu Hi everyone, looking for help on displaying remainder of title in opac aside the title. First part of title is 245a then remainder 245b. Right now opac only displays the first part of the title, even in detail view 18:19 jwagner Mathieu, what version of Koha, and are you using XSLT for the display? 18:20 Mathieu Version is alpha2, xslt is enabled for the detail view 18:20 Mathieu field displays in marc view but not in normal 18:21 brendan http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x3651#AEN3887 18:21 brendan that should do the trick for you 18:21 Mathieu perfect thats what I was looking for, thanks 18:47 cait hi #koha 18:49 jdavidb hi, cait! :) 18:56 |Lupin| hello there 18:57 cait hi jdavidb 18:57 cait hi |Lupin|! 18:58 cait now i have scared him away :) 19:00 |Lupin| hi cait :) 19:10 reva chris_n: hello again from Antigua; have a quick question: When I was trying to use the demo for Koha provided by Liblime, I was not able to value in the author field. This happened once before and I found the solution on the forum from someone who had the same issue. As far as I can recall I had turn something on (or off) in the Admininstration part of the demo. Would you know, or could you find out from someone there, please? Thank 19:15 chris_n reva: it sounds like an syspref dealing with authorities, however I"m not sure about the demos by LibLime and I don't have any association with them so you'll have to find out from them from another route 19:15 chris_n sorry 19:19 reva chris_n: ok thanks, Your answer seems correct about turning some option on in Authorities. I searched for the same solution I found about a month back, but I am not stumbling upon it today:(. Just to let you know, we at the Antigua and Barbuda Bureau of Standards have opted to go with a Koa Live CD install:). Hope all of that will go well for us. 19:20 cait reva: there is a koha demo available at bywater solutions too and I think you can perhaps find your answer in one of the faqs on the koha-community.org site 19:21 reva cait: thanks for the info. I will try bywater faq and see. 19:21 cait different things, give me aminute 19:22 cait there is a link to the demos at koha-community.org 19:22 cait Im not sure which version the demos at liblime are, but perhaps you want to compare 19:23 cait and the faq is here: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/cataloging/#7 19:23 wizzyrea_ 3.01.00.039 with LibLime Enterprise Koha build: 4.0100009 19:23 wizzyrea_ is what their demo says 19:23 wizzyrea_ so not really koha at all, strictly speaking. 19:23 reva cait: I was using the express staff client demo. Ok thanks for the ready link, I will try it now. 19:24 wizzyrea_ express is 19:24 wizzyrea_ 3.01.00.032 19:25 wizzyrea_ which would be an older stable release 19:26 sekjal the demo hosted by ByWater Solutions is running version 3.01.00.136 19:26 sekjal I should really update that... I'm three db revisions behind 19:27 brendan I think I just updated it two days ago 19:27 wizzyrea_ hehe 19:27 sekjal nice, thanks brendan 19:28 pianohack Hahaha, our stable is still on .041 19:28 pianohack Just barely beating out LibLime! 19:28 wizzyrea_ heh 19:28 wizzyrea_ ours is only slightly ahead of LEK 19:28 wizzyrea_ it's like, the LEK jumping off point 19:29 pianohack well, you have a... reason 19:29 wizzyrea_ heh 19:29 pianohack Until I got started on an earnest attempt to get everything submitted for our next koha supporter's sake this last month, I hadn't touched our install in months 19:30 pianohack Too many fast-coded, fragile modifications that broke after the last insufficiently tested rebase 19:30 wizzyrea_ really interesting discussion on the dev list re: the biblibre/co-op situation 19:30 wizzyrea_ interestingto watch 19:34 chris_n interesting and good imho 19:34 cait but a lot of work to do for 3.4 19:34 reva chris_n and cait: yeah, setting BibAddsAuthorities to ON lets me enter the Person Name, etc. in their fields. Thanks. 19:34 cait reva: :) 19:34 chris_n reva: cool 19:35 * chris_n wonders if the underscore following one's nick is the latest irc fad 19:35 wizzyrea_ meh 19:35 wizzyrea_ ;) 19:36 chris_n_ hehe... and you're at the top of the list 19:36 ___ there we go 19:36 ___ showoff 19:36 chris_n lol 19:37 chris_n @wunder 28334 19:37 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 34.8�C (3:29 PM EDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 9%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Falling). 19:37 wizzyrea Interesting that the | doesn't have the same effect as the _ 19:37 chris_n yeah 19:39 chris_n I think the biblibre/co-op problems have good solutions and hashing through them will help avoid similar problems in the future 19:40 chris_n they are good growing pains 19:40 wizzyrea well there are applications there for every support provider, I think 19:40 wizzyrea and situations I think they all have gotten into, give or take 19:40 chris_n and I think they are to be commended for their transparency 19:40 wizzyrea ya, I like that 20:06 |Lupin| hey Liz 20:29 chris morning 20:29 cait morning chris :) 20:29 wizzyrea is da chris, good morning 20:30 |Lupin| hello chris :) 20:31 chris hiya |Lupin| ltns .. how are things? 20:32 chris_n heya chris, |Lupin| 20:34 richard hi 20:34 chris hi richard 20:34 brendan @wunder 93117 20:34 richard hi chris 20:34 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.3�C (1:38 PM PDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling). 20:34 brendan heya all 20:34 richard hi brendan 20:35 |Lupin| chris: things go very well, thanks a lot. Very nice life. HOpe things go well for you too ? 20:36 chris most of the time yep :) 20:52 |Lupin| chris: how are the children ? you have several of them, haven't you ? 20:54 chris yep i have 2 of them, one 3.5 and one 1 year old they are doing well 20:54 |Lupin| chris: ok, that's nice to read 21:33 zevlag I've inherited 5 koha servers, and I'm just inventoring my systems, and it looks like we are running version 3.01.00.037, I see at koha.org that latest release is 3.0.6, so I'm not sure where my version fits in. 21:34 cait 3.01 is means that your install is not a released stable version but an install from master branch for 3.2 21:36 zevlag *nod* 21:36 zevlag how stable is the 3.2 branch/trunk? 21:37 chris pretty stable, it is due for a beta release soon 21:37 cait we are in production with 3.1.00.61 21:38 cait and its pretty stable 21:38 chris the latest version is 3.01.00.136 (i think) 21:38 zevlag ok 21:39 zevlag Are upgrades as simple a 'git pull'? 21:39 zevlag how are datbases changes managed? 21:40 chris it will automatically spot the version has changed and redirect you to the webiinstaller where it can upgrade 21:40 chris of course, do not do this on a production system 21:40 chris without testing it first :) 21:42 zevlag *nod* 21:42 zevlag where is the best documentation on koha? wiki.koha.org seems to be dead 21:43 chris yeah all the www.koha-community.org 21:43 chris and wiki.koha-community.org 21:44 chris_n @wunder 28334 21:44 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 33.0�C (4:41 PM EDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 21:47 chris_n Catalyst++ 21:49 chris having_a_dedicate_qa_team_at_your_work_place++ 21:55 cait chris++ catalyst++ 21:58 chris richard: is si about? 21:59 chris just made a change to the ircd config and was going to bounce the server 21:59 richard he's just leaving for work - will give you a call 21:59 chris cool 21:59 chris thanks 22:00 chris i just wanted to check doing so would be ok 22:00 richard he says ok 22:00 chris cool thanks 22:02 moodaepo @wunder 56001 22:03 moodaepo @wunder 56003 22:03 moodaepo @wunder 56001 22:03 chris ah munin isnt back yet ;) 22:05 chris @wunder 56001 22:05 munin chris: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 32.3�C (5:11 PM CDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 28.89 in 978.2 hPa (Falling). 22:07 moodaepo chris: graci munin must have got annoyed at the awesome weather brendan keeps getting 22:08 chris heh, no i restarted the irc server 22:08 chris just to up the max connections allowed 22:08 moodaepo What was it set to? 22:09 larsw too many connections? everyone using bip or screen? 22:09 brendan @wunder 93117 22:09 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.1�C (3:13 PM PDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Falling). 22:09 brendan eat that :) 22:10 brendan the weather he is kind of boring though (really) 22:10 cait @wunder Konstanz 22:10 brendan s/he/here 22:10 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 11.0�C (12:00 AM CEST on June 23, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising). 22:10 * moodaepo gets to taste it in 10 days : ) 22:10 brendan sweet 22:10 moodaepo brendan: you are in Santa Barbara right? 22:11 brendan yes 22:12 chris larsw: too many per ident response, and since no one runs identd anymore .. :) 22:12 moodaepo Flying in to LA just so I can drive up to Portland and do the 101. 22:13 chris moodaepo: we did that on our honeymoon 22:13 chris started in seattle though 22:13 chris it is a great trip 22:13 larsw if I could stomach driving in the US, I might want to drive LA-Portland in July, hmm 22:14 chris http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1233 22:14 moodaepo chris brendan: tips suggestions mail to firstname.lastname@gmail.com (name is on the /whois) 22:14 chris go to coos bay 22:15 brendan how long do you have? 22:16 chris we also cut inland to go to yosemite park, that was worth it if you have time 22:16 moodaepo Reaching LA 2nd evening/night probably take off on the 3rd return flight is on the 10th 22:16 brendan and sequoia is out of this world too 22:17 chris oh yeah, and the redwoods 22:17 brendan so 7 days to make a round trip 22:17 moodaepo Been to Glaciar/Yose when I did the trip from Chicago to Neah Bay WA 22:17 moodaepo oops Glacier 22:18 brendan if you spend a day in LA - disney is worth it 22:19 * moodaepo hates crowds 22:19 chris http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1611 22:20 moodaepo chris++ 22:21 chris larsw: it is a fun drive, and beautiful too 22:21 chris i only freaked out driving in the cities ;) 22:21 brendan I'd say drive the big sur, stop in monterey (clint eastwood was the mayor there), redwoods and then spend time going up the oregon coast nice and slow 22:22 chris yeah, astoria is really nice too 22:22 chris watch out for the goonies though!! 22:22 brendan right next to monterey is castroville (the world capital of artichokes) - if you like artichokes stop there for some good eats 22:22 brendan goonies++ 22:23 brendan @karma goonies 22:23 munin brendan: Karma for "goonies" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. 22:23 brendan nice I was beaten to the punch 22:30 brendan @roulette 22:30 munin brendan: *click* 22:35 cait @roulette 22:35 munin cait: *click* 22:35 cait @roulette 22:35 munin cait: *click* 22:35 cait @roulette 22:35 * munin reloads and spins the chambers. 22:45 brendan bye cait 22:46 chris heh 22:46 moodaepo brendan chris: many thanks 23:25 pianohack Hmm