Time  Nick        Message
22:34 bgkriegel   bugweiser: larsw means Z39.50. On other hand, every copy must have a unique identifier, then you can't use the ISBN label if you have more than one copy of a book
22:28 chris       bugweiser: http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/
22:28 chris       not sure why then, the biblibre ppl run the list so ill check with them
22:27 bugweiser   chris: where can i find the manual?
22:26 larsw       bugweiser, a tip from a newbie: it's possible to import most of the cataloging data from public sources, for most books: the Z24352.3546313 search (can never remember the numbers) is the tool for that, highly recommended
22:26 robin       Jun 14 11:20:47 zarathud postfix/smtp[24493]: 2A83D358149: to=<koha-patches@lists.koha-community.org>, relay=mail.catalyst.net.nz[202.78.240.40]:25, delay=0.26, delays=0.13/0.04/0.04/0.05, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 877A56836F)
22:26 robin       yep, just have it set to nomail
22:25 chris       robin: ill have a look ... you are subscribed to koha-patches eh?
22:25 chris       yep you can do that, but in order to catalogue an item you are going to have to deal with marc ... id suggest having a look at the manual
22:25 robin       chris: looking at the archives, that patch I sent yesterday didn't appear to make it to the list - any idea why?
22:24 bugweiser   What if I don't utilize all of the bells & whistles on it?
22:22 bugweiser   I have had SOME minimal exposure to the terminology and what not of library systems...
22:22 chris       its designed to run 'real' libraries, so while you can use it for a home one .. there's a lot to get your head around
22:22 chris       koha has a lot of features and things like MARC that is pretty scary when first encountered
22:22 bugweiser   haha :)
22:21 chris       thats going to take the longest time :)
22:21 chris       then spend a bunch of time learning how to be a librarian
22:21 larsw       bugweiser, if you can put Debian squeeze on the box, software installation is pretty easy ("apt-get install koha", plus some manual steps; see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian)
22:21 chris       install debian squeeze, use debian.koha-community.org to install koha
22:20 bugweiser   I.E., 1) Get a server with Debian, 2) Putz around on the command line for approx. X hours installing the server side, 3) scan ISBN barcodes on books...
22:19 bugweiser   chris: Do you think you could give me an idea of what the setup process would be like for me?
22:18 bugweiser   chris: Okay, simplicity is a plus for me, but not a must.
22:17 chris       s/in/and/
22:17 chris       yeah koha will do all that in more, koha might in fact be overkill for you
22:17 bugweiser   larsw: Hi. :)
22:17 bugweiser   physical location of the book on the shelves, really, although it would also be nice.
22:17 bugweiser   s to copy an administrator or something would be nice but those are the two essential things I need.  I don't even NEED to be able to find the
22:16 bugweiser   another that Jack has out, not due back for 2 weeks.  Also I'd want to be able to cross reference books to patrons, in other words to be able to pull up Jack's file and see that he presently has 2 books out, The Jungle Book and The Fantasic Mr. Fox and when each is due.  Other extras such as email notifications to Jack when his books become overdue with optio
22:16 bugweiser   I just need to the inventory system to be able to inform me that there are presently 3 copies on the shelves, 1 copy that Bill has out, due back in a week, and
22:16 bugweiser   Oh, and I don't need differentiation between the different copies.  In other words, say I have 5 copies of The Jungle Book.  Lets say Bill takes out one copy for a 2 week term, and then a week later Jack takes out another copy, for a 2 week term as well.  I don't care which copies they all have (i.e., Bill has copy B and Jack has copy E)
22:15 larsw       bugweiser, it sounds like Koha might do the job for you, yes (I don't know about details, I'm too new to this stuff myself)
22:14 bugweiser   I need to track circulation, and I have books with multiple copies.  I'd like to be able to simply use the ISBN label that is already on the books as the circulatory ID for the book.
22:12 bugweiser   Hi.  I have a "library," which right now consists of some shelfs with a bunch of books, with no organization whatsoever.  I own a barcode scanner, several windows machines and a headless desktop that I plan to use as a server.  Is Koha a good place to start for me?
21:58 jo          thanks larsw
21:58 jo          there you go then :)
21:57 larsw       "15 June 2010 at 22:00 UTC" -- I _think_ that's in 24 hours
21:56 jo          do we have a kohacon meeting thismornign?
21:56 jo          morning
21:14 wizzyrea    wb
21:12 larsw       hi again
20:38 hdl         good night all
20:36 richard     hi
20:36 joetho      report
20:33 * magn_away wishes chris a speedy recovery and everyone a good night (or other time-of-the-day of their choice)
20:28 chris       or are you wanting it for a report?
20:28 chris       joetho: you should be able to change it in the admin interface
20:27 hdl         hi all
20:26 joetho      I looked for that table first and didn't see it
20:26 * chris_n   heads home
20:26 hdl         hi chris
20:26 chris       or authorized
20:26 chris       authorised values joetho
20:25 joetho      Hello, any idea what table I would find shelving location descriptions in?
20:25 chris_n     you're right about that... I hate medicine, but that is how bad the throat got
20:24 wizzyrea    ^^ hard core
20:24 chris_n     I finally resorted to Tylenol and Tussin with Codeine to kill the pain
20:24 wizzyrea    omg it's internet communicable
20:23 chris       im gonna need more painkilers
20:23 wizzyrea    ew
20:23 chris       eek 3 weeks!!!
20:23 chris_n     along with the worst sore throat of all time :-P
20:23 chris_n     chris: I just got over three weeks of that sort of thing
20:03 wizzyrea    yes, coughing on your coworkers is not nice
20:00 chris       :)
20:00 chris       yeah, started with a headache, im in the sore throat and coughing phase now, so better for larsw and others if i dont go in and cough all over them
19:56 wizzyrea    poor chris
19:54 larsw       ouch
19:53 * chris     is off work today with some kinda crazy flu thing
19:53 chris       morning
18:15 Joe_Me      I can't add a new Item Type. I try to add it and then it closes the window, but doesn't list a new item type. I tried it logged in with superlibrarian access and with the root account I setup for Koha. Anyone have any ideas?
18:12 Joe_Me      hello?
17:24 cait        hi jdavidb :)
17:24 jdavidb     hi, cait! :)
17:24 cait        hi koha
17:21 Owner       I still need to get the barcodes printed
17:21 Owner       there is an issue with that
17:20 wizzyrea    you can also get csv output from the guided reports wizard
17:13 librarian   have you tried phpmyadmin
17:09 librarian   there must be way to spit out all the info from the database using another mysql interface
17:09 Owner       I would have to go within the database
17:08 Owner       not that I am aware of
17:06 librarian   is there a way to create labels without Koha's label creator?
16:52 Owner       I am just doing this pro bono
16:52 Owner       there is no budget for this
16:52 Owner       they are an ngo
16:52 librarian   last resort would be to pay for help
16:51 Owner       what are my options?
16:50 wizzyrea    sorry, I can't help you with that I'm not running your version.
16:50 Owner       is there s workaround?
16:50 Owner       is unreasonable
16:50 Owner       doing it manually
16:49 Owner       it is a popup
16:48 librarian   yeah, i started doing it individually by searching by titles
16:48 wizzyrea    is the window behind your main window?
16:48 Owner       now we are unable to do a batch
16:48 Owner       as they have already entered items
16:48 Owner       iI don't know what I should do
16:47 Owner       I went with the latest stable
16:47 wizzyrea    wow that was a typo festival
16:47 wizzyrea    to*
16:47 wizzyrea    3.0.6, i mean
16:47 wizzyrea    sadly it works in both systems I have access too, but neither are exactly 2.0.6
16:47 Owner       if I select barcode
16:46 Owner       yes
16:46 wizzyrea    and if you put a date in each, it returns nothing?
16:46 wizzyrea    and you see "barcode", added on or after and added on or before
16:45 librarian   i have the same problem
16:45 wizzyrea    so you clicked add items to batch
16:42 Owner       by I can't kind the syntax to add all items added between a certain date
16:41 Owner       I checked the documentation
16:41 Owner       any ideas?
16:41 Owner       when they go to create a batch to print labels we cannot get the results for all items added between certain dates
16:40 Owner       they are running 3.0.6
16:40 Owner       they have succesfully entered some items
16:39 Owner       I am installing koha for an ngo
16:39 Owner       hi folks
16:11 kf          bye all
15:59 sekjal      gladly.  :)
15:59 librarian   thank you so much
15:58 sekjal      sudo make upgrade
15:58 sekjal      make test
15:58 sekjal      make
15:58 sekjal      perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log
15:58 sekjal      the instructions consist of:
15:58 sekjal      librarian: if you've downloaded 3.0.6 in a compressed folder, and you're doing a production installation, you can find upgrade instructions in the INSTALL files included in the download
15:54 wizzyrea    caveat: I haven't done it, because I use dev installs and do updates through git
15:53 wizzyrea    which should preserve your koha-conf and zebra settings and whatnot
15:53 wizzyrea    you should be able to download the new package, unzip it, then run the installer and ask to "upgrade"
15:52 librarian   *I can't find any
15:51 librarian   I'm going to update koha 3.0.1 to 3.0.6 but I can't be any documentation on how to update ... Am I suppose to install it all over again?
15:50 librarian   hello, can someone tell how best to update Koha or can point me in the right direction
13:46 * chris_n   grimaces
13:43 wizzyrea    I may be productive again in a few days, lol
13:43 wizzyrea    I'm busily setting up my replacement computer
13:43 wizzyrea    even
13:43 wizzyrea    exciting.
13:43 wizzyrea    I saw the announcement! that's pretty excited
13:43 chris_n     knock on wood
13:43 chris_n     so we should not go opless again
13:43 chris_n     chris and si setup channel services over the weekend
13:42 chris_n     great
13:42 wizzyrea    how was everybody's weekend/monday
13:42 wizzyrea    hi chris_n
13:42 chris_n     heya wizzyrea
13:37 kmkale      hi wizzyrea
13:36 wizzyrea    good morning
13:19 kmkale      I dont think I saw a single koha mail today. Hope nothing is wrong..
13:18 kmkale      good evening all
12:31 munin       jdavidb: Quote #75: "<jwagner> They do get over it though. Starting along about my 20s, the older I got the smarter my parents got :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 09:13 AM, May 18, 2010)
12:31 jdavidb     @quote random
12:31 * jdavidb   chuckles
12:29 munin       jwagner: Quote #30: "< pianohacker> Dealing with me can indeed be painful" (added by chris at 05:34 PM, September 02, 2009)
12:29 jwagner     @quote random
11:50 jwagner     Morning
11:50 chris_n     g'morning
11:26 jwagner     Morning, kf
11:26 kf          hi jwagner
11:25 kf          no, and cait is ok too :)
11:25 magnus      there's a new server? no problem for you though, kf ;-)
11:24 kf          magnus: I think its the configuration of the new irc server
11:16 magnus      new limit on the length of nicks?
11:15 kf          hi jdavidb
11:09 chris       hi jdavidb
11:09 jdavidb     hi, #koha.
10:37 magnus      really inspiring
10:37 magnus      great
10:36 kf          how was elag?
10:36 magnus      hiya kf
10:36 kf          hi magnus
09:43 magnus      thnx hdl
09:43 hdl         wb magnus
08:56 magnus      tjänare larsw
08:55 larsw       hej, magnus
08:49 chris       i noticed that :)
08:49 magnus      good to be back after some intense days et ELAG - managed to squeeze some koha into the twitter-stream... ;-)
08:44 magnus      hi chris!
08:43 chris       hi magnus
08:38 magnus      g'day koha
08:23 larsw       bip is not bad :)
08:23 chris       Larsw: I installed bip the other day, I like it so far :)
07:56 chris       but i have never booked coming the other way, so i dont know
07:53 chris       it cost russel and i a lot less than that to get to france (took longer than 30 hours tho :))
07:53 chris       because that seems like a lot
07:52 chris       is that return?
07:52 * paul      has found the traveling to auckland will cost 1800� and take 30 hours (for each of us)
07:51 paul        our best ennemies
07:51 paul        chris : in soccer, germany/france, it's like nz/aus in rugby !
07:51 Elwell      meh, roll on next years 6 nations :-)
07:50 kf          not sure we will win, but it was a good start yesterday
07:50 chris       :)
07:50 larsw       we won't be cold, I got my benchmark machine up and running and it's burning the cpu all night now :)
07:50 paul        rough translation. better one : "soccer, it's 22 men running after a round ball and trying to score a goal, and, at the end, germany wins"
07:49 larsw       chris, aye
07:49 chris       larsw: have the heater on tonight? cold southerly coming in
07:49 kf          :)
07:49 chris       heh
07:49 paul        in france, we used to say : "world soccer cup, it's a competition where a lot of ppl play soccer, good or very good, and, at the end, germany wins"
07:48 chris       http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/fifa-world-cup/3810133/All-Blacks-go-all-white-in-World-Cup-support
07:48 chris       :)
07:48 chris       germany++
07:48 chris       yes
07:47 paul        (but not as bad as for aussies ;-) )
07:47 paul        it was not very successfull...
07:47 chris       the all blacks are wearing all white this weekend in support of our soccer team
07:47 chris       heh
07:46 paul        soccer as well as rugby teams. Maybe they could take the same plane to lower the cost...
07:45 paul        we will probably stay in South Africa just a few more days...
07:45 paul        mmm... who is lol ? everybody ? well, you're right
07:45 chris       hehe
07:45 paul        fortunatly, in soccer, france will beat everybody.
07:44 paul        3-0 for southern countries !
07:44 paul        AUS 27 - 17 ENG
07:44 chris       both bad :)
07:44 chris       66-28
07:43 paul        larsw, lol, but it's rugby, really
07:43 larsw       42-17 sounds like basketball...
07:43 paul        chris 42 - 17
07:42 chris       cool
07:42 * paul      now registered & logged in
07:40 chris       as bad as nz beat ireland?
07:38 paul        french was heavily beaten by south africa last week end ...
07:38 paul        hi chris
07:37 chris       hi paul
07:06 kf          hi all
03:38 akSeya      exir
03:38 akSeya      well.. i got to go.. be back tomorrow if I can't get it to work
03:23 akSeya      what am I missing?! :(
03:21 akSeya      addicionaly, koha-opac-error_log says: client denied by server configuration as may be seen here (http://dpaste.com/206952/)
03:19 akSeya      apache is working fine, but when I "activate" this file, I get "You don't have permission to access / on this server."
03:18 akSeya      here is my koha-http.conf that i'm using on gentoo http://dpaste.com/206951/
03:17 akSeya      hi there again
00:50 akSeya      i changed the koha-http.conf. The virtualhost now is named koha. on /etc/hosts I addedd koha to the 127.0.0.1 line.
00:49 akSeya      koha is in apache but I'm getting a 403 message,
00:49 akSeya      back*
00:49 akSeya      i'm bacl
00:49 akSeya      hey