Time Nick Message 00:49 akSeya hey 00:49 akSeya i'm bacl 00:49 akSeya back* 00:49 akSeya koha is in apache but I'm getting a 403 message, 00:50 akSeya i changed the koha-http.conf. The virtualhost now is named koha. on /etc/hosts I addedd koha to the 127.0.0.1 line. 03:17 akSeya hi there again 03:18 akSeya here is my koha-http.conf that i'm using on gentoo http://dpaste.com/206951/ 03:19 akSeya apache is working fine, but when I "activate" this file, I get "You don't have permission to access / on this server." 03:21 akSeya addicionaly, koha-opac-error_log says: client denied by server configuration as may be seen here (http://dpaste.com/206952/) 03:23 akSeya what am I missing?! :( 03:38 akSeya well.. i got to go.. be back tomorrow if I can't get it to work 03:38 akSeya exir 07:06 kf hi all 07:37 chris hi paul 07:38 paul hi chris 07:38 paul french was heavily beaten by south africa last week end ... 07:40 chris as bad as nz beat ireland? 07:42 * paul now registered & logged in 07:42 chris cool 07:43 paul chris 42 - 17 07:43 larsw 42-17 sounds like basketball... 07:43 paul larsw, lol, but it's rugby, really 07:44 chris 66-28 07:44 chris both bad :) 07:44 paul AUS 27 - 17 ENG 07:44 paul 3-0 for southern countries ! 07:45 paul fortunatly, in soccer, france will beat everybody. 07:45 chris hehe 07:45 paul mmm... who is lol ? everybody ? well, you're right 07:45 paul we will probably stay in South Africa just a few more days... 07:46 paul soccer as well as rugby teams. Maybe they could take the same plane to lower the cost... 07:47 chris heh 07:47 chris the all blacks are wearing all white this weekend in support of our soccer team 07:47 paul it was not very successfull... 07:47 paul (but not as bad as for aussies ;-) ) 07:48 chris yes 07:48 chris germany++ 07:48 chris :) 07:48 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/fifa-world-cup/3810133/All-Blacks-go-all-white-in-World-Cup-support 07:49 paul in france, we used to say : "world soccer cup, it's a competition where a lot of ppl play soccer, good or very good, and, at the end, germany wins" 07:49 chris heh 07:49 kf :) 07:49 chris larsw: have the heater on tonight? cold southerly coming in 07:49 larsw chris, aye 07:50 paul rough translation. better one : "soccer, it's 22 men running after a round ball and trying to score a goal, and, at the end, germany wins" 07:50 larsw we won't be cold, I got my benchmark machine up and running and it's burning the cpu all night now :) 07:50 chris :) 07:50 kf not sure we will win, but it was a good start yesterday 07:51 Elwell meh, roll on next years 6 nations :-) 07:51 paul chris : in soccer, germany/france, it's like nz/aus in rugby ! 07:51 paul our best ennemies 07:52 * paul has found the traveling to auckland will cost 1800� and take 30 hours (for each of us) 07:52 chris is that return? 07:53 chris because that seems like a lot 07:53 chris it cost russel and i a lot less than that to get to france (took longer than 30 hours tho :)) 07:56 chris but i have never booked coming the other way, so i dont know 08:23 chris Larsw: I installed bip the other day, I like it so far :) 08:23 larsw bip is not bad :) 08:38 magnus g'day koha 08:43 chris hi magnus 08:44 magnus hi chris! 08:49 magnus good to be back after some intense days et ELAG - managed to squeeze some koha into the twitter-stream... ;-) 08:49 chris i noticed that :) 08:55 larsw hej, magnus 08:56 magnus tjänare larsw 09:43 hdl wb magnus 09:43 magnus thnx hdl 10:36 kf hi magnus 10:36 magnus hiya kf 10:36 kf how was elag? 10:37 magnus great 10:37 magnus really inspiring 11:09 jdavidb hi, #koha. 11:09 chris hi jdavidb 11:15 kf hi jdavidb 11:16 magnus new limit on the length of nicks? 11:24 kf magnus: I think its the configuration of the new irc server 11:25 magnus there's a new server? no problem for you though, kf ;-) 11:25 kf no, and cait is ok too :) 11:26 kf hi jwagner 11:26 jwagner Morning, kf 11:50 chris_n g'morning 11:50 jwagner Morning 12:29 jwagner @quote random 12:29 munin jwagner: Quote #30: "< pianohacker> Dealing with me can indeed be painful" (added by chris at 05:34 PM, September 02, 2009) 12:31 * jdavidb chuckles 12:31 jdavidb @quote random 12:31 munin jdavidb: Quote #75: "<jwagner> They do get over it though. Starting along about my 20s, the older I got the smarter my parents got :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 09:13 AM, May 18, 2010) 13:18 kmkale good evening all 13:19 kmkale I dont think I saw a single koha mail today. Hope nothing is wrong.. 13:36 wizzyrea good morning 13:37 kmkale hi wizzyrea 13:42 chris_n heya wizzyrea 13:42 wizzyrea hi chris_n 13:42 wizzyrea how was everybody's weekend/monday 13:42 chris_n great 13:43 chris_n chris and si setup channel services over the weekend 13:43 chris_n so we should not go opless again 13:43 chris_n knock on wood 13:43 wizzyrea I saw the announcement! that's pretty excited 13:43 wizzyrea exciting. 13:43 wizzyrea even 13:43 wizzyrea I'm busily setting up my replacement computer 13:43 wizzyrea I may be productive again in a few days, lol 13:46 * chris_n grimaces 15:50 librarian hello, can someone tell how best to update Koha or can point me in the right direction 15:51 librarian I'm going to update koha 3.0.1 to 3.0.6 but I can't be any documentation on how to update ... Am I suppose to install it all over again? 15:52 librarian *I can't find any 15:53 wizzyrea you should be able to download the new package, unzip it, then run the installer and ask to "upgrade" 15:53 wizzyrea which should preserve your koha-conf and zebra settings and whatnot 15:54 wizzyrea caveat: I haven't done it, because I use dev installs and do updates through git 15:58 sekjal librarian: if you've downloaded 3.0.6 in a compressed folder, and you're doing a production installation, you can find upgrade instructions in the INSTALL files included in the download 15:58 sekjal the instructions consist of: 15:58 sekjal perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log 15:58 sekjal make 15:58 sekjal make test 15:58 sekjal sudo make upgrade 15:59 librarian thank you so much 15:59 sekjal gladly. :) 16:11 kf bye all 16:39 Owner hi folks 16:39 Owner I am installing koha for an ngo 16:40 Owner they have succesfully entered some items 16:40 Owner they are running 3.0.6 16:41 Owner when they go to create a batch to print labels we cannot get the results for all items added between certain dates 16:41 Owner any ideas? 16:41 Owner I checked the documentation 16:42 Owner by I can't kind the syntax to add all items added between a certain date 16:45 wizzyrea so you clicked add items to batch 16:45 librarian i have the same problem 16:46 wizzyrea and you see "barcode", added on or after and added on or before 16:46 wizzyrea and if you put a date in each, it returns nothing? 16:46 Owner yes 16:47 Owner if I select barcode 16:47 wizzyrea sadly it works in both systems I have access too, but neither are exactly 2.0.6 16:47 wizzyrea 3.0.6, i mean 16:47 wizzyrea to* 16:47 wizzyrea wow that was a typo festival 16:47 Owner I went with the latest stable 16:48 Owner iI don't know what I should do 16:48 Owner as they have already entered items 16:48 Owner now we are unable to do a batch 16:48 wizzyrea is the window behind your main window? 16:48 librarian yeah, i started doing it individually by searching by titles 16:49 Owner it is a popup 16:50 Owner doing it manually 16:50 Owner is unreasonable 16:50 Owner is there s workaround? 16:50 wizzyrea sorry, I can't help you with that I'm not running your version. 16:51 Owner what are my options? 16:52 librarian last resort would be to pay for help 16:52 Owner they are an ngo 16:52 Owner there is no budget for this 16:52 Owner I am just doing this pro bono 17:06 librarian is there a way to create labels without Koha's label creator? 17:08 Owner not that I am aware of 17:09 Owner I would have to go within the database 17:09 librarian there must be way to spit out all the info from the database using another mysql interface 17:13 librarian have you tried phpmyadmin 17:20 wizzyrea you can also get csv output from the guided reports wizard 17:21 Owner there is an issue with that 17:21 Owner I still need to get the barcodes printed 17:24 cait hi koha 17:24 jdavidb hi, cait! :) 17:24 cait hi jdavidb :) 18:12 Joe_Me hello? 18:15 Joe_Me I can't add a new Item Type. I try to add it and then it closes the window, but doesn't list a new item type. I tried it logged in with superlibrarian access and with the root account I setup for Koha. Anyone have any ideas? 19:53 chris morning 19:53 * chris is off work today with some kinda crazy flu thing 19:54 larsw ouch 19:56 wizzyrea poor chris 20:00 chris yeah, started with a headache, im in the sore throat and coughing phase now, so better for larsw and others if i dont go in and cough all over them 20:00 chris :) 20:03 wizzyrea yes, coughing on your coworkers is not nice 20:23 chris_n chris: I just got over three weeks of that sort of thing 20:23 chris_n along with the worst sore throat of all time :-P 20:23 chris eek 3 weeks!!! 20:23 wizzyrea ew 20:23 chris im gonna need more painkilers 20:24 wizzyrea omg it's internet communicable 20:24 chris_n I finally resorted to Tylenol and Tussin with Codeine to kill the pain 20:24 wizzyrea ^^ hard core 20:25 chris_n you're right about that... I hate medicine, but that is how bad the throat got 20:25 joetho Hello, any idea what table I would find shelving location descriptions in? 20:26 chris authorised values joetho 20:26 chris or authorized 20:26 hdl hi chris 20:26 * chris_n heads home 20:26 joetho I looked for that table first and didn't see it 20:27 hdl hi all 20:28 chris joetho: you should be able to change it in the admin interface 20:28 chris or are you wanting it for a report? 20:33 * magn_away wishes chris a speedy recovery and everyone a good night (or other time-of-the-day of their choice) 20:36 joetho report 20:36 richard hi 20:38 hdl good night all 21:12 larsw hi again 21:14 wizzyrea wb 21:56 jo morning 21:56 jo do we have a kohacon meeting thismornign? 21:57 larsw "15 June 2010 at 22:00 UTC" -- I _think_ that's in 24 hours 21:58 jo there you go then :) 21:58 jo thanks larsw 22:12 bugweiser Hi. I have a "library," which right now consists of some shelfs with a bunch of books, with no organization whatsoever. I own a barcode scanner, several windows machines and a headless desktop that I plan to use as a server. Is Koha a good place to start for me? 22:14 bugweiser I need to track circulation, and I have books with multiple copies. I'd like to be able to simply use the ISBN label that is already on the books as the circulatory ID for the book. 22:15 larsw bugweiser, it sounds like Koha might do the job for you, yes (I don't know about details, I'm too new to this stuff myself) 22:16 bugweiser Oh, and I don't need differentiation between the different copies. In other words, say I have 5 copies of The Jungle Book. Lets say Bill takes out one copy for a 2 week term, and then a week later Jack takes out another copy, for a 2 week term as well. I don't care which copies they all have (i.e., Bill has copy B and Jack has copy E) 22:16 bugweiser I just need to the inventory system to be able to inform me that there are presently 3 copies on the shelves, 1 copy that Bill has out, due back in a week, and 22:16 bugweiser another that Jack has out, not due back for 2 weeks. Also I'd want to be able to cross reference books to patrons, in other words to be able to pull up Jack's file and see that he presently has 2 books out, The Jungle Book and The Fantasic Mr. Fox and when each is due. Other extras such as email notifications to Jack when his books become overdue with optio 22:17 bugweiser s to copy an administrator or something would be nice but those are the two essential things I need. I don't even NEED to be able to find the 22:17 bugweiser physical location of the book on the shelves, really, although it would also be nice. 22:17 bugweiser larsw: Hi. :) 22:17 chris yeah koha will do all that in more, koha might in fact be overkill for you 22:17 chris s/in/and/ 22:18 bugweiser chris: Okay, simplicity is a plus for me, but not a must. 22:19 bugweiser chris: Do you think you could give me an idea of what the setup process would be like for me? 22:20 bugweiser I.E., 1) Get a server with Debian, 2) Putz around on the command line for approx. X hours installing the server side, 3) scan ISBN barcodes on books... 22:21 chris install debian squeeze, use debian.koha-community.org to install koha 22:21 larsw bugweiser, if you can put Debian squeeze on the box, software installation is pretty easy ("apt-get install koha", plus some manual steps; see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian) 22:21 chris then spend a bunch of time learning how to be a librarian 22:21 chris thats going to take the longest time :) 22:22 bugweiser haha :) 22:22 chris koha has a lot of features and things like MARC that is pretty scary when first encountered 22:22 chris its designed to run 'real' libraries, so while you can use it for a home one .. there's a lot to get your head around 22:22 bugweiser I have had SOME minimal exposure to the terminology and what not of library systems... 22:24 bugweiser What if I don't utilize all of the bells & whistles on it? 22:25 robin chris: looking at the archives, that patch I sent yesterday didn't appear to make it to the list - any idea why? 22:25 chris yep you can do that, but in order to catalogue an item you are going to have to deal with marc ... id suggest having a look at the manual 22:25 chris robin: ill have a look ... you are subscribed to koha-patches eh? 22:26 robin yep, just have it set to nomail 22:26 robin Jun 14 11:20:47 zarathud postfix/smtp[24493]: 2A83D358149: to=<koha-patches@lists.koha-community.org>, relay=mail.catalyst.net.nz[202.78.240.40]:25, delay=0.26, delays=0.13/0.04/0.04/0.05, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 877A56836F) 22:26 larsw bugweiser, a tip from a newbie: it's possible to import most of the cataloging data from public sources, for most books: the Z24352.3546313 search (can never remember the numbers) is the tool for that, highly recommended 22:27 bugweiser chris: where can i find the manual? 22:28 chris not sure why then, the biblibre ppl run the list so ill check with them 22:28 chris bugweiser: http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/ 22:34 bgkriegel bugweiser: larsw means Z39.50. On other hand, every copy must have a unique identifier, then you can't use the ISBN label if you have more than one copy of a book