Time  Nick        Message
00:49 akSeya      hey
00:49 akSeya      i'm bacl
00:49 akSeya      back*
00:49 akSeya      koha is in apache but I'm getting a 403 message,
00:50 akSeya      i changed the koha-http.conf. The virtualhost now is named koha. on /etc/hosts I addedd koha to the 127.0.0.1 line.
03:17 akSeya      hi there again
03:18 akSeya      here is my koha-http.conf that i'm using on gentoo http://dpaste.com/206951/
03:19 akSeya      apache is working fine, but when I "activate" this file, I get "You don't have permission to access / on this server."
03:21 akSeya      addicionaly, koha-opac-error_log says: client denied by server configuration as may be seen here (http://dpaste.com/206952/)
03:23 akSeya      what am I missing?! :(
03:38 akSeya      well.. i got to go.. be back tomorrow if I can't get it to work
03:38 akSeya      exir
07:06 kf          hi all
07:37 chris       hi paul
07:38 paul        hi chris
07:38 paul        french was heavily beaten by south africa last week end ...
07:40 chris       as bad as nz beat ireland?
07:42 * paul      now registered & logged in
07:42 chris       cool
07:43 paul        chris 42 - 17
07:43 larsw       42-17 sounds like basketball...
07:43 paul        larsw, lol, but it's rugby, really
07:44 chris       66-28
07:44 chris       both bad :)
07:44 paul        AUS 27 - 17 ENG
07:44 paul        3-0 for southern countries !
07:45 paul        fortunatly, in soccer, france will beat everybody.
07:45 chris       hehe
07:45 paul        mmm... who is lol ? everybody ? well, you're right
07:45 paul        we will probably stay in South Africa just a few more days...
07:46 paul        soccer as well as rugby teams. Maybe they could take the same plane to lower the cost...
07:47 chris       heh
07:47 chris       the all blacks are wearing all white this weekend in support of our soccer team
07:47 paul        it was not very successfull...
07:47 paul        (but not as bad as for aussies ;-) )
07:48 chris       yes
07:48 chris       germany++
07:48 chris       :)
07:48 chris       http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/fifa-world-cup/3810133/All-Blacks-go-all-white-in-World-Cup-support
07:49 paul        in france, we used to say : "world soccer cup, it's a competition where a lot of ppl play soccer, good or very good, and, at the end, germany wins"
07:49 chris       heh
07:49 kf          :)
07:49 chris       larsw: have the heater on tonight? cold southerly coming in
07:49 larsw       chris, aye
07:50 paul        rough translation. better one : "soccer, it's 22 men running after a round ball and trying to score a goal, and, at the end, germany wins"
07:50 larsw       we won't be cold, I got my benchmark machine up and running and it's burning the cpu all night now :)
07:50 chris       :)
07:50 kf          not sure we will win, but it was a good start yesterday
07:51 Elwell      meh, roll on next years 6 nations :-)
07:51 paul        chris : in soccer, germany/france, it's like nz/aus in rugby !
07:51 paul        our best ennemies
07:52 * paul      has found the traveling to auckland will cost 1800� and take 30 hours (for each of us)
07:52 chris       is that return?
07:53 chris       because that seems like a lot
07:53 chris       it cost russel and i a lot less than that to get to france (took longer than 30 hours tho :))
07:56 chris       but i have never booked coming the other way, so i dont know
08:23 chris       Larsw: I installed bip the other day, I like it so far :)
08:23 larsw       bip is not bad :)
08:38 magnus      g'day koha
08:43 chris       hi magnus
08:44 magnus      hi chris!
08:49 magnus      good to be back after some intense days et ELAG - managed to squeeze some koha into the twitter-stream... ;-)
08:49 chris       i noticed that :)
08:55 larsw       hej, magnus
08:56 magnus      tjänare larsw
09:43 hdl         wb magnus
09:43 magnus      thnx hdl
10:36 kf          hi magnus
10:36 magnus      hiya kf
10:36 kf          how was elag?
10:37 magnus      great
10:37 magnus      really inspiring
11:09 jdavidb     hi, #koha.
11:09 chris       hi jdavidb
11:15 kf          hi jdavidb
11:16 magnus      new limit on the length of nicks?
11:24 kf          magnus: I think its the configuration of the new irc server
11:25 magnus      there's a new server? no problem for you though, kf ;-)
11:25 kf          no, and cait is ok too :)
11:26 kf          hi jwagner
11:26 jwagner     Morning, kf
11:50 chris_n     g'morning
11:50 jwagner     Morning
12:29 jwagner     @quote random
12:29 munin       jwagner: Quote #30: "< pianohacker> Dealing with me can indeed be painful" (added by chris at 05:34 PM, September 02, 2009)
12:31 * jdavidb   chuckles
12:31 jdavidb     @quote random
12:31 munin       jdavidb: Quote #75: "<jwagner> They do get over it though. Starting along about my 20s, the older I got the smarter my parents got :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 09:13 AM, May 18, 2010)
13:18 kmkale      good evening all
13:19 kmkale      I dont think I saw a single koha mail today. Hope nothing is wrong..
13:36 wizzyrea    good morning
13:37 kmkale      hi wizzyrea
13:42 chris_n     heya wizzyrea
13:42 wizzyrea    hi chris_n
13:42 wizzyrea    how was everybody's weekend/monday
13:42 chris_n     great
13:43 chris_n     chris and si setup channel services over the weekend
13:43 chris_n     so we should not go opless again
13:43 chris_n     knock on wood
13:43 wizzyrea    I saw the announcement! that's pretty excited
13:43 wizzyrea    exciting.
13:43 wizzyrea    even
13:43 wizzyrea    I'm busily setting up my replacement computer
13:43 wizzyrea    I may be productive again in a few days, lol
13:46 * chris_n   grimaces
15:50 librarian   hello, can someone tell how best to update Koha or can point me in the right direction
15:51 librarian   I'm going to update koha 3.0.1 to 3.0.6 but I can't be any documentation on how to update ... Am I suppose to install it all over again?
15:52 librarian   *I can't find any
15:53 wizzyrea    you should be able to download the new package, unzip it, then run the installer and ask to "upgrade"
15:53 wizzyrea    which should preserve your koha-conf and zebra settings and whatnot
15:54 wizzyrea    caveat: I haven't done it, because I use dev installs and do updates through git
15:58 sekjal      librarian: if you've downloaded 3.0.6 in a compressed folder, and you're doing a production installation, you can find upgrade instructions in the INSTALL files included in the download
15:58 sekjal      the instructions consist of:
15:58 sekjal      perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log
15:58 sekjal      make
15:58 sekjal      make test
15:58 sekjal      sudo make upgrade
15:59 librarian   thank you so much
15:59 sekjal      gladly.  :)
16:11 kf          bye all
16:39 Owner       hi folks
16:39 Owner       I am installing koha for an ngo
16:40 Owner       they have succesfully entered some items
16:40 Owner       they are running 3.0.6
16:41 Owner       when they go to create a batch to print labels we cannot get the results for all items added between certain dates
16:41 Owner       any ideas?
16:41 Owner       I checked the documentation
16:42 Owner       by I can't kind the syntax to add all items added between a certain date
16:45 wizzyrea    so you clicked add items to batch
16:45 librarian   i have the same problem
16:46 wizzyrea    and you see "barcode", added on or after and added on or before
16:46 wizzyrea    and if you put a date in each, it returns nothing?
16:46 Owner       yes
16:47 Owner       if I select barcode
16:47 wizzyrea    sadly it works in both systems I have access too, but neither are exactly 2.0.6
16:47 wizzyrea    3.0.6, i mean
16:47 wizzyrea    to*
16:47 wizzyrea    wow that was a typo festival
16:47 Owner       I went with the latest stable
16:48 Owner       iI don't know what I should do
16:48 Owner       as they have already entered items
16:48 Owner       now we are unable to do a batch
16:48 wizzyrea    is the window behind your main window?
16:48 librarian   yeah, i started doing it individually by searching by titles
16:49 Owner       it is a popup
16:50 Owner       doing it manually
16:50 Owner       is unreasonable
16:50 Owner       is there s workaround?
16:50 wizzyrea    sorry, I can't help you with that I'm not running your version.
16:51 Owner       what are my options?
16:52 librarian   last resort would be to pay for help
16:52 Owner       they are an ngo
16:52 Owner       there is no budget for this
16:52 Owner       I am just doing this pro bono
17:06 librarian   is there a way to create labels without Koha's label creator?
17:08 Owner       not that I am aware of
17:09 Owner       I would have to go within the database
17:09 librarian   there must be way to spit out all the info from the database using another mysql interface
17:13 librarian   have you tried phpmyadmin
17:20 wizzyrea    you can also get csv output from the guided reports wizard
17:21 Owner       there is an issue with that
17:21 Owner       I still need to get the barcodes printed
17:24 cait        hi koha
17:24 jdavidb     hi, cait! :)
17:24 cait        hi jdavidb :)
18:12 Joe_Me      hello?
18:15 Joe_Me      I can't add a new Item Type. I try to add it and then it closes the window, but doesn't list a new item type. I tried it logged in with superlibrarian access and with the root account I setup for Koha. Anyone have any ideas?
19:53 chris       morning
19:53 * chris     is off work today with some kinda crazy flu thing
19:54 larsw       ouch
19:56 wizzyrea    poor chris
20:00 chris       yeah, started with a headache, im in the sore throat and coughing phase now, so better for larsw and others if i dont go in and cough all over them
20:00 chris       :)
20:03 wizzyrea    yes, coughing on your coworkers is not nice
20:23 chris_n     chris: I just got over three weeks of that sort of thing
20:23 chris_n     along with the worst sore throat of all time :-P
20:23 chris       eek 3 weeks!!!
20:23 wizzyrea    ew
20:23 chris       im gonna need more painkilers
20:24 wizzyrea    omg it's internet communicable
20:24 chris_n     I finally resorted to Tylenol and Tussin with Codeine to kill the pain
20:24 wizzyrea    ^^ hard core
20:25 chris_n     you're right about that... I hate medicine, but that is how bad the throat got
20:25 joetho      Hello, any idea what table I would find shelving location descriptions in?
20:26 chris       authorised values joetho
20:26 chris       or authorized
20:26 hdl         hi chris
20:26 * chris_n   heads home
20:26 joetho      I looked for that table first and didn't see it
20:27 hdl         hi all
20:28 chris       joetho: you should be able to change it in the admin interface
20:28 chris       or are you wanting it for a report?
20:33 * magn_away wishes chris a speedy recovery and everyone a good night (or other time-of-the-day of their choice)
20:36 joetho      report
20:36 richard     hi
20:38 hdl         good night all
21:12 larsw       hi again
21:14 wizzyrea    wb
21:56 jo          morning
21:56 jo          do we have a kohacon meeting thismornign?
21:57 larsw       "15 June 2010 at 22:00 UTC" -- I _think_ that's in 24 hours
21:58 jo          there you go then :)
21:58 jo          thanks larsw
22:12 bugweiser   Hi.  I have a "library," which right now consists of some shelfs with a bunch of books, with no organization whatsoever.  I own a barcode scanner, several windows machines and a headless desktop that I plan to use as a server.  Is Koha a good place to start for me?
22:14 bugweiser   I need to track circulation, and I have books with multiple copies.  I'd like to be able to simply use the ISBN label that is already on the books as the circulatory ID for the book.
22:15 larsw       bugweiser, it sounds like Koha might do the job for you, yes (I don't know about details, I'm too new to this stuff myself)
22:16 bugweiser   Oh, and I don't need differentiation between the different copies.  In other words, say I have 5 copies of The Jungle Book.  Lets say Bill takes out one copy for a 2 week term, and then a week later Jack takes out another copy, for a 2 week term as well.  I don't care which copies they all have (i.e., Bill has copy B and Jack has copy E)
22:16 bugweiser   I just need to the inventory system to be able to inform me that there are presently 3 copies on the shelves, 1 copy that Bill has out, due back in a week, and
22:16 bugweiser   another that Jack has out, not due back for 2 weeks.  Also I'd want to be able to cross reference books to patrons, in other words to be able to pull up Jack's file and see that he presently has 2 books out, The Jungle Book and The Fantasic Mr. Fox and when each is due.  Other extras such as email notifications to Jack when his books become overdue with optio
22:17 bugweiser   s to copy an administrator or something would be nice but those are the two essential things I need.  I don't even NEED to be able to find the
22:17 bugweiser   physical location of the book on the shelves, really, although it would also be nice.
22:17 bugweiser   larsw: Hi. :)
22:17 chris       yeah koha will do all that in more, koha might in fact be overkill for you
22:17 chris       s/in/and/
22:18 bugweiser   chris: Okay, simplicity is a plus for me, but not a must.
22:19 bugweiser   chris: Do you think you could give me an idea of what the setup process would be like for me?
22:20 bugweiser   I.E., 1) Get a server with Debian, 2) Putz around on the command line for approx. X hours installing the server side, 3) scan ISBN barcodes on books...
22:21 chris       install debian squeeze, use debian.koha-community.org to install koha
22:21 larsw       bugweiser, if you can put Debian squeeze on the box, software installation is pretty easy ("apt-get install koha", plus some manual steps; see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian)
22:21 chris       then spend a bunch of time learning how to be a librarian
22:21 chris       thats going to take the longest time :)
22:22 bugweiser   haha :)
22:22 chris       koha has a lot of features and things like MARC that is pretty scary when first encountered
22:22 chris       its designed to run 'real' libraries, so while you can use it for a home one .. there's a lot to get your head around
22:22 bugweiser   I have had SOME minimal exposure to the terminology and what not of library systems...
22:24 bugweiser   What if I don't utilize all of the bells & whistles on it?
22:25 robin       chris: looking at the archives, that patch I sent yesterday didn't appear to make it to the list - any idea why?
22:25 chris       yep you can do that, but in order to catalogue an item you are going to have to deal with marc ... id suggest having a look at the manual
22:25 chris       robin: ill have a look ... you are subscribed to koha-patches eh?
22:26 robin       yep, just have it set to nomail
22:26 robin       Jun 14 11:20:47 zarathud postfix/smtp[24493]: 2A83D358149: to=<koha-patches@lists.koha-community.org>, relay=mail.catalyst.net.nz[202.78.240.40]:25, delay=0.26, delays=0.13/0.04/0.04/0.05, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 877A56836F)
22:26 larsw       bugweiser, a tip from a newbie: it's possible to import most of the cataloging data from public sources, for most books: the Z24352.3546313 search (can never remember the numbers) is the tool for that, highly recommended
22:27 bugweiser   chris: where can i find the manual?
22:28 chris       not sure why then, the biblibre ppl run the list so ill check with them
22:28 chris       bugweiser: http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/
22:34 bgkriegel   bugweiser: larsw means Z39.50. On other hand, every copy must have a unique identifier, then you can't use the ISBN label if you have more than one copy of a book