Time Nick Message 23:58 gmcharlt error in a H::T::Pro loop - value passed to the template is not an arrayref of hashrefs for whatever variable is referenced in the tmpl_loop 23:40 eiro PARAM:LOOP:next_loop:hash pointer was expected but not found 23:40 eiro can someone tell me when this message appears: 23:19 magnus g'night #koha 22:21 munin brendan: Naturally. 22:21 brendan @eightball you think the mets will win tonight? 21:15 gmcharlt octothorpesarus: yes, it's a supported option 21:07 octothorpesarus Anyone know if the 3.1+ branch supports LDAP authentication by binding to the server as the user vs anonymous? 20:47 albertos someone? 20:47 albertos no prob 20:47 albertos no prob... 20:46 chris i dont use authorities sorry :( 20:45 albertos any help? 20:45 albertos but.. still same error... 20:44 albertos rebuilded zebra... 20:44 albertos with modifyin some file and change the header,, 20:44 albertos i found a quick fix... 20:44 albertos i get this error: authorities-home.pl: oAuth error: Unsupported Use attribute (114) Heading Bib-1, referer ... 20:44 albertos when i try to search authorities 20:44 albertos but... 20:44 albertos all went ok so far 20:43 albertos i migrated some data from another lib 20:43 albertos everything seems ok 20:43 albertos and i installed v 3.0.06 20:43 albertos i recently got invovled with koha 20:43 albertos and if someone... wants to help :-) 20:43 albertos ok...i 'll go for it... 20:42 albertos can i ask a question about authorities? 20:42 richard hi albertos 20:42 richard hi chris 20:42 albertos hi all 20:42 chris morning richard 20:34 richard hi 20:30 octothorpesarus s 20:20 chrisdroid Well that was weird 20:13 hdl_laptop wizzyrea_away: sent on list help yourself 19:54 chris back in a bit 19:54 chris eek bus time 19:52 hdl_laptop Congratulations chris. 19:52 hdl_laptop I can send it onlist. 19:50 wizzyrea_away hdl_laptop++ 19:50 wizzyrea_away woo hoo! 19:50 hdl_laptop I have a patch for the problem on filtering patrons. 19:50 hdl_laptop owen wizzyrea_away reading logs. 19:49 wizzyrea_away I know, it's gorgeous. I'm totally jealous. ;) 19:48 hdl_laptop WOWOWOW.... Congratulations 19:44 jwagner Purty! 19:43 wizzyrea_away library.org.nz 19:43 jwagner Or is that it? Sorry, missed the search box 19:42 jwagner What's the OPAC URL? 19:42 wizzyrea_away Cute! 19:42 chris i like this one :) 19:42 chris http://library.org.nz/services/kids/homework.html 19:41 chris plus all the static pages 19:41 brendan and richard and katipods++ 19:41 chris they did the lovely design work 19:41 chris and richard and the katipods 19:41 gmcharlt HLT++ 19:41 brendan congrats chris, HLT and jo 19:40 wizzyrea_lab ^^ super 19:40 jwagner Great! Keep us posted on stability etc. 19:40 chris current head + recommendations ... which will be in 3.4 19:40 chris yep 19:40 jwagner chris, refresh my memory -- did you take them to current head? 19:39 wizzyrea_lab woot! 19:39 chris thanks jwagner 19:39 chris so thats great 19:39 chris and people LOVE the opac 19:39 chris no problems circulating, or collecting fines etc .. ie everything core works 19:38 chris we are finding a few little things, mostly to do with data conversion, but nothing too bad 19:38 jwagner Congrats! 19:38 wizzyrea_lab squeee! 19:38 chris went well 19:37 chris had the official launch last night 19:37 wizzyrea_lab good? bad? ugly? 19:37 wizzyrea_lab oh yea, how's it going at HLT? 19:37 chris wizzyrea_lab: depending on how much work jo has for me today i might be able to do a fix for that 19:37 chris :) 19:37 chris and a nzer wins them quite a lot 19:36 wizzyrea_lab (indy branches are really fast. ZOOM) 19:36 wizzyrea_lab and it should be dependent on indybranches 19:35 wizzyrea_lab it used to work that way, and doesn't now 19:35 wizzyrea_lab but yes 19:35 wizzyrea_lab and the hiding thereof 19:35 wizzyrea_lab I think it's a function of the expanded search options 19:35 wizzyrea_lab well 19:35 gmcharlt ah, then it might be a regression (regression = used to work, doesn't now) 19:34 chris yeah so its been introduced in the last 12 months 19:34 wizzyrea_lab right, sorry 19:34 wizzyrea_lab 3.01.00.037 19:34 chris not 3.00.01 19:34 * chris is pretty sure its 3.001.something 19:34 wizzyrea_lab and you can only order by surname, none of the other options are existent. one sec. 19:34 chris whats your actual version number in the about? 19:33 wizzyrea_lab on our 3.0.1 it defaults to all libraries (any) 19:33 gmcharlt wizzyrea_lab: to clarify what I'm asking - what does it do for you now in production? 19:32 chris well you have 3.1 something 19:32 wizzyrea_lab unless I"m not understanding what you mean 19:32 wizzyrea_lab um um... well it wouldnt be from the one we have 19:32 chris it feels like it is though 19:32 chris i dont have a 3.0 running near me so can't check 19:32 gmcharlt or is it? 19:32 gmcharlt this isn't a regression from 3.0.x, correct? 19:31 wizzyrea_lab ^^ yes, plox 19:31 chris off, default to any? 19:31 chris independantbranches = on, default to your branch 19:31 chris how about for now, ie 3.2 19:31 wizzyrea_lab \o/ 19:31 wizzyrea_lab we are on the same team! 19:31 wizzyrea_lab I agree with you 19:30 gmcharlt e.g., the obvious counter-example is small library consortium that has both schools and PLs 19:30 wizzyrea_lab ya 19:30 wizzyrea_lab we don't want dupe patrons, we need (NEED) it to search all by default 19:30 gmcharlt wizzyrea_lab: but if we added staff user prefernces, you can be righteous ... and so could anti-wizzyrea ;) 19:29 wizzyrea_lab I was about to get all righteous on you 19:29 wizzyrea_lab ok, whew. 19:29 gmcharlt wizzyrea_lab: I'm actually thinking a bit further ahead - in terms of a mechanism for staff user preferences 19:29 chris or at least say something like 'search results for smith in levin' 19:28 * wizzyrea_lab might have a religious feeling about it 19:28 chris i agree 19:28 chris i think the current behaviour is unexpected, certainly i didnt realise that was happening until now 19:28 wizzyrea_lab yea, I'd prefer that a syspref were governing tha behaviour, but by default I think it should pick any 19:27 gmcharlt broadly speaking, that could be both a matter of policy (e.g., indybranches) and staff user preference 19:27 owen No, I mean it should default to any unless IndependantBranches is on 19:27 wizzyrea_lab no, indybranch is off 19:27 chris nope it happens with or without 19:26 wizzyrea_lab well I'll double check, but I don't believe we have that on 19:26 owen Maybe unless IndependantBranches is on? I'm not sure if that is relevant 19:25 owen I agree 100% 19:25 wizzyrea_lab you should have to pick it 19:25 wizzyrea_lab I think it should default to any 19:25 wizzyrea_lab until you expand and set it to any 19:25 wizzyrea_lab if you're in fairview, and you want to find the smith in meadville, you can't 19:25 wizzyrea_lab so say 19:25 owen Oh, never noticed that! 19:24 wizzyrea_lab or is that just behaviour we'll have to train out of 19:24 wizzyrea_lab is that a syspref? 19:24 wizzyrea_lab on members-home.pl, if you are logged in as a specific branch, it always defaults to that branch, and you have to expand the [+] to change to any 19:18 jwagner Or maybe I'm just hallucinating :-) (Always a possibility these days....) 19:17 * owen does see it in the staff client 19:17 jwagner No, the font-size is in the OPAC css. I'm not sure why I saw it yesterday but not today, unless you pushed something in between that touched OPAC XSLT 19:16 gmcharlt the OPAC appeared to have same oddity in the DOM tree, but may not have had the 80% font-size rule in the CSS 19:16 gmcharlt owen: in the staff client 19:16 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4821 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, With multiple 5XX fields, the font display gets progressively smaller 19:16 owen gmcharlt: When you investigated Bug 4821 yesterday, we you able to reproduce what jwagner was seeing? 19:14 CGI020 ok thx 19:13 gmcharlt CGI020: you may have better luck on this mailing list - http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-win32 19:13 gmcharlt CGI020: I don't think there are that many people around in this channel who use the windows port of Koha 19:12 hdl_laptop it was meant for gmcharlt 19:12 CGI020 ok 19:11 hdl_laptop CGI020: I was not answering you. 19:11 CGI020 let me check thx 19:11 hdl_laptop ... for RFC 19:11 hdl_laptop don't wait too long) 19:11 hdl_laptop (and already is.... ) 19:10 hdl_laptop should be included in that page. 19:10 hdl_laptop http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Ergonomics_of_smart-rules_and_circulation_parameters 19:10 CGI020 how to get whole process steps by steps to activate the ovrdue charging facility on windows 2.2.9 19:09 gmcharlt 3.4 19:08 hdl_laptop 3.2 ? Or 3.4 ? 19:08 * gmcharlt awaits hdl_laptop's UI RFC for that 19:08 hdl_laptop owen: we did some thing to use SQLHelper to edit issuing rules. And that would help a lot for that purpose. 19:08 CGI020 simply tell me whether fine calculation will work with 2.2.9 wndows or not? 19:08 owen hdl_laptop: The hard part, from my point of view, is setting up the back-end to accommodate that kind of solution 19:07 CGI020 Fines are calculated by the fines2.pl script, located in misc directory. Ask your administrator to put this script in crontab, after midnight, to have fines calculated every night" means this instruction will not work for windows version 19:07 hdl_laptop owen so when we have time to devote to that. We shall do. 19:07 CGI020 please help 19:07 CGI020 hi wizzyrea 19:06 hdl_laptop LOOOL 19:06 CGI020 hello wizzyrea_lab 19:06 owen NOOOOOOOOOOO! 19:06 hdl_laptop I am ... your father. 19:06 owen hdl_laptop: I was inspired to seek a client-side-only solution, but I'm in no way opposed to something like Jeditable 19:05 wizzyrea_lab sorry, that looked like "jedi table" to me 19:05 hdl_laptop And would allow us to generalise that kind of solution... What prevented us from doing it is time. But we wanted to. 19:05 wizzyrea_lab use the force, hdl 19:04 hdl_laptop Well, Jeditable looks like a good dependency to add. 19:04 owen My preference would be to do it in a somewhat systematic way 19:03 owen hdl_laptop: Because it seemed like a simple solution, without adding extra dependencies. I'm all for adding inline editing 19:00 hdl_laptop owen: about your patch on smart-rules... why not use Jeditable query rather that coding what you did. for want of time ? 18:59 CGI020 and ultimatly we can not generate overdue charges on windows? 18:59 owen CGI020: You could investigate wizzyrea_lab's suggestion to use the Windows task scheduler 18:59 CGI020 "Fines are calculated by the fines2.pl script, located in misc directory. Ask your administrator to put this script in crontab, after midnight, to have fines calculated every night" means this instruction will not work for windows version 18:57 CGI020 i wanted to use desktop version of ubuntu 18:57 wizzyrea_lab owen lol 18:57 CGI020 if yes will it works with desktop version or server version 18:57 octothorpesarus Sure you can. 18:56 CGI020 please tell me can i use ubuntu for koha 18:56 owen And the monster's name was... fghkdlmor! 18:55 jwagner Sounds like a serial record.... 18:55 owen This XSL template reads like the history of a comic book monster: Absorbed by: Absorbed in part by: Split into .. and ... Merged with ... to form ...Changed back to: 18:48 jwagner I remember updating several times yesterday. 18:48 jwagner Did any of the updates from yesterday touch XSLT? 18:48 jwagner I might do a line-by-line comparison of that section of the current XSLT & the site where I saw it. 18:47 jwagner Well, now the gremlins are biting me -- looks OK today. But I definitely saw the problem yesterday there. Sigh. 18:47 owen ...I just wonder why we're seeing such different results 18:47 owen There was obviously problem enough that gmcharlt submitted a proposed fix for it 18:45 * jwagner mutters something about darned gremlins.... 18:45 owen Latest head, XSLT on, don't see it. 18:44 jwagner I imported that same record into my current head system & saw the same problem. 18:44 jwagner owen, was off on another screen -- what version did you try & did you have XSLT on? 18:43 * wizzyrea_lab doesn't work with the windows version, sorry 18:41 CGI020 how to do above job for overdue charge 18:40 CGI020 i am using 2.2.9 koha 18:40 CGI020 please help to generate overdue charge it is instructed as "Fines are calculated by the fines2.pl script, located in misc directory. Ask your administrator to put this script in crontab, after midnight, to have fines calculated every night 18:40 wizzyrea_lab :) 18:40 wizzyrea_lab consult that 18:40 wizzyrea_lab http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 18:39 Bupl So I have a question regarding the catalog - we're just getting started with koha, and have started entering records in. The problem is that when we search the catalog, no results appear, even though we know that we entered the record in. Any ideas? 18:36 wizzyrea_lab task scheduler 18:35 owen I don't know what Windows users do. 18:35 owen ...but Windows doesn't have cron. 18:34 owen http://adminschoice.com/crontab-quick-reference 18:34 CGI020 it says that you edit the fines2.pl file script and paste it in crontab 18:33 CGI020 yes i mean crontab 18:33 CGI020 so on whic linux version koha is working fine? 18:33 owen CGI020: Do you mean crontab? 18:32 CGI020 what is corntp file 18:31 owen CGI020: I don't know if we can help you. 2.2.9 is very old, and none of us use the Windows version 18:31 CGI020 i have seen fines2.pl but after that what to do to generate overdue charges 18:30 owen Viewing the record in my test system doesn't show the same issues 18:30 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4821 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, With multiple 5XX fields, the font display gets progressively smaller 18:30 owen jwagner: Strange, I exported that record from the Hartford catalog that you showed me yesterday in conjunction with Bug 4821... 18:30 CGI020 for overdue charges 18:30 CGI020 can any body help me how to take report via 2.2.9 windows 18:29 owen Go ahead CGI020 18:29 CGI020 i need help 18:29 CGI020 hello 18:21 jwagner OK, wasn't sure & was curious 18:20 wizzyrea_lab in the code they might be related 18:20 wizzyrea_lab they are not the same thing 17:53 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3792 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Checking out on-hold item to someone else replaces item-level hold with next available 17:53 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2830 critical, P3, ---, henridamien, NEW, Hold not removed when "trapped" item on hold shelf is checked out to a different patron in the holds queue 17:53 jwagner wizzyrea, catching up on things -- re Bug 2830 -- is that similar to Bug 3792? 17:21 octothorpesarus Many search engines have lists.koha.org indexed. 17:20 octothorpesarus I ask because links such as http:/lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2009-May/009531.html are currently redirected to http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo. 17:16 octothorpesarus Is it possible to have the web server running lists.koha.org to rewrite http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/(.*) to http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/$1 ? 17:13 owen You're doing better than I was yesterday. I started my day by accidentally running over a chipmunk. 17:12 brendan heh thanks owen 17:12 owen Breaking news: profits are up for Koha support companies! 17:11 brendan found a dollar on the ground on my way to the office - pretty cool 17:06 * owen thanks google 17:05 owen FYI 17:05 owen "item" is a reserved word in Internet Explorer 6, 7, and 8's implementation of javascript. 16:59 * jdavidb finds his way out of wizzyrea_lab's labyrinth. 16:59 * wizzyrea_lab whines a little 16:59 * owen pets wizzyrea_lab's labrador retriever 16:58 * owen admires wizzyrea_lab's lab coat 16:58 wizzyrea_lab ^^ what he said 16:57 jdavidb It's fairly quiet today, but you're welcome to lurk. If you come up with any questions, lots of helpful folks are here, and no need to ask permission, just toss your question out there. 16:56 octothorpesarus I'm just going to lurk here for a bit while I do some searching. 16:56 jdavidb Hi. Welcome. :) 16:56 octothorpesarus hi 16:55 * jdavidb peers quizzically at octothorpesarus. 16:39 owen Thanks, that helps me get a better picture of what's on my list 16:39 collum I have assigned it to myself. 16:36 collum NP. I usually fix tables as I find them. 16:36 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2889 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, NEW, templates should use loop_context_vars __odd__ 16:36 owen I wondered if you were still working (on and off) on Bug 2889, and if so would you accept its assignment? 16:35 collum what's up 16:34 owen collum available? 16:30 * owen wanders in finally 16:30 * jdavidb waves to owen. 16:25 wizzyrea_lab gmcharlt: i updated the bug 16:15 gmcharlt wizzyrea_lab: I'll take a look 16:15 wizzyrea_lab sadly, it works perfectly in our production install :(( 16:15 jcamins :) 16:15 jcamins Oh well. It was a nice idea. 16:14 wizzyrea_lab it works exactly right, except that it doesn't change the status from "Lost" to "Available" 16:14 wizzyrea_lab no I don't think so, not in this case 16:07 wizzyrea_lab ok 16:07 jcamins Does the lost status depend on the user defining magic authorized values? We had issues with not-for-loan statuses. 16:07 wizzyrea_lab ya 16:06 gmcharlt hmm - reopen it then, please - nengard had closed it, but w/o comment 16:05 wizzyrea_lab so no status 16:05 wizzyrea_lab it's empty 16:05 wizzyrea_lab it removes the lost status, but doesn't change it to available 16:04 wizzyrea_lab gmcharlt: i was unable to get this to work on this morning's head :( 16:04 gmcharlt wizzyrea_lab: and fixed, it would seem 16:03 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3265 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, LOST status not changed after issued item is checked in 16:03 wizzyrea_lab bug 3265: also kind of a big deal 16:03 jcamins Oh, never mind. User error. 16:02 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4162 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Inventory Tool Fails Silently 16:02 jcamins Does anyone know if there's been any work on bug 4162? 15:52 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2830 critical, P3, ---, henridamien, NEW, Hold not removed when "trapped" item on hold shelf is checked out to a different patron in the holds queue 15:52 wizzyrea_lab bug 2830 -- anybody even looked at this one? 15:50 eiro hello guys 15:46 munin jdavidb: Quote #68: "gmcharlt: which probably means that library schools ought to rename Cataloging 101 to Identification and Avoidance of Rabbit Holes 101" (added by wizzyrea_laptop at 03:17 PM, March 10, 2010) 15:46 jdavidb @quote random 15:46 munin jdavidb: Error: "quote_random" is not a valid command. 15:46 jdavidb @quote_random 15:14 gmcharlt sekjal: yep, that looks promising 15:10 sekjal Turbomarc: http://www.indexdata.com/blog/2010/05/turbomarc-faster-xml-marc-records 14:00 munin jdavidb: Quote #60: "<owen> My 9-month-old may not be walking yet, but she's got great bib control." (added by gmcharlt at 12:31 PM, February 19, 2010) 14:00 jdavidb @quote random 13:46 jwagner morning, wizzy 13:45 wizzyrea_away good morning 13:42 jwagner morning, gmcharlt 13:33 gmcharlt good morning 13:28 munin cait: Quote #66: "<paul_p> shame on koha, mySQL & user !" (added by jwagner at 10:39 AM, March 04, 2010) 13:28 cait @quote random 13:25 munin jwagner: Quote #12: "<owen> Every time you check in a book a little video loads and Nancy Pearl recites her capsule review of it." (added by gmcharlt at 02:36 PM, July 06, 2009) 13:25 jwagner @quote random 13:24 jwagner Awfully quiet around here this morning.... 11:05 cait hi Ropuch :) 10:44 Amit heya Ropuch, chris 10:42 chris hi Ropuch 10:37 Ropuch Hi chris 10:20 chris sweet 10:20 cait all other sql files are already done, after marc21 I can start testing :) 10:18 chris cool :) 10:16 * cait finishing translation of marc21 default framework :) 10:13 chris good thanks 10:12 cait hi Amit 10:12 Amit heya cait 10:11 cait how did it go? 10:11 cait hi chris 10:04 * chris gets back from the official launch at HLT 09:25 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4817: Point to README.Debian in koha package description, postinst output. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=79a0c93ddd26d48db64621012f122d87849d8251> 08:56 cait night brendan :) 08:43 brendan night all 08:43 brendan time to sleep :) 08:41 cait hi brendan 08:32 brendan heya cait 08:31 cait hi #koha 07:39 robin I've written one. 07:39 robin oh, just missed it. 07:36 brendan csv to marc21 - try looking at MARCedit first - not a koha tool - but very useful 07:35 CGI692 csv to marc21 data conversion or data migration any kind of tools or utility in koha ? 07:34 CGI692 dear all 07:06 Ropuch Morning #koha 04:29 brendan if you're not to far away - I take you out for dinner or something 04:29 brendan I'm going to be in Colorado in Golden around the 12 or 14th of June 04:28 brendan heya pianohacker 04:27 Amit heya pianohacker 04:27 pianohacker Hi brendan and Amit 03:47 brendan heya Amit 03:46 Amit heya chris, brendan 03:05 pianohacker How very appropriate for a raven 03:02 munin gmcharlt: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing! 03:02 gmcharlt @eightball were you paid to say that? 02:59 brendan yes 02:59 munin brendan: Of course. 02:59 brendan @eightball will the Mets win tomorrow? 02:53 munin brendan: Quote #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.... eventually, ye shall stop asking." (added by gmcharlt at 04:31 PM, July 09, 2009) 02:53 brendan @quote random 00:25 gmcharlt yep 00:24 chris one for nengards zotero bibliography 00:24 chris :) 00:24 * gmcharlt has slightly more spanish than that, although not by much :) 00:23 chris yep, i used google translate too :) 00:23 gmcharlt chris: upshot: Koha compares quite well to Janium; Koha's functionality is pretty much equivalent to Janium but offers, well, freedom