Time Nick Message 23:56 mason ive got some vague memory of this tool stripping out the bad marc-record from the problem file... 23:55 mason yaz-iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t UTF-8 -X <input.lst >output.lst 23:55 mason im poking at yaz-iconv.. 23:54 mason heya back 23:54 chris_n heya mason 23:51 mason or another yaz-* tool poss. 23:50 mason using yaz-client perhaps...? 23:50 mason anyone got any ideas on fixing a corrupt *.marc file? 23:18 mason http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/05/03/149224/Why-IE9-Will-Not-Support-Other-Codecs-Than-H264 23:10 mason http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/04/30/if-you-code-html-zen-coding-will-change-your-life/ 23:10 mason oooh. how bout this.... 22:15 larsw reed, yay 22:15 reed larsw, hooray, now that my freaking quad core laptop has arrived I can help test package installs in various vm's without worrying my mouse might slow down 22:03 chris_n yup, been awhile since we heard from them 21:46 chris nice to see the vokal people on the list :) 21:19 Nate gnight all! 21:02 schuster by friends 20:58 chris_n ttyl 20:58 * jwagner thinks that's enough for one day -- see you later 20:58 chris until i reboot the server and flush /tmp anyway :) 20:58 chris_n where it was pasted earlier 20:57 chris_n until then, the patch can be seen here: http://paste.workbuffer.org/4 20:57 chris_n I was helping with it, but apparently his git is not configured right for sendmail 20:56 chris_n gmcharlt: I have gave munin a message for km_kale regarding that patch 20:54 larsw chris, that might be better 20:54 jwagner (Am trying to do this on a current head server -- it would be easier on my older-level sandbox, sigh.) 20:54 chris maybe at the developers conference bit after? 20:54 chris larsw: can do 20:54 jwagner Hrmmm. OK, I'll have jdavidb create one for me. I don't speak MySQL enough to muck around with the db. 20:54 chris and the db 20:53 chris you need to edit the prefs file 20:53 chris ah, in that case no 20:53 * larsw thinks chris should give a fastcgi+nginx talk at kohacon 20:53 * jwagner should have added "without resorting to a direct MySQL edit" :-) 20:52 chris yep 20:52 jwagner Now. Has anyone figured out how to create a new syspref in Jesse's new editor? 20:51 jwagner AHA. I was searching for the actual file name, and this is building the filename based on marc flavor. Thanks. 20:48 chris starting round line 147 in master is where it sets the xslt file 20:48 chris inside sub XSLTParse4Display { 20:47 chris jwagner: its in C4/XSLT.pm 20:47 wizzyrea he'll be back probably :) 20:47 wizzyrea I don't see it :( 20:42 wizzyrea he said he sent it 20:41 wizzyrea hm, no I haven't seen it 20:41 chris yeah havent seen it 20:41 gmcharlt wizzyrea: speaking of which, have you seen the patch itself? not in my patches inbox 20:40 chris hi richard 20:39 richard hi 20:39 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4394 enhancement, P5, ---, jwagner@ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, opaccolorstylesheet syspref won't allow an external URL 20:39 jwagner I have a working revision on Bug 4394 (opaccolorstylesheet setting), and I thought I'd poke at allowing an external XSLT stylesheet as well. Darned if I can find it, though.... 20:37 chris jwagner: looking now 20:37 wizzyrea (was what I figured, but someone asked) 20:37 wizzyrea k ty 20:37 gmcharlt wizzyrea: feature, so 3.4 unless it is completely obvious that it can't break anything 20:36 jwagner I can't find it anywhere. I'm wondering if it's a setting somewhere in one of the MySQL tables. 20:36 chris we need to make the case they can save money by collaborating and using free software, instead of laying off staff and/or rental charges 20:36 jwagner owen or chris (or anyone else), do you know where in the system it's told to use the XSLT stylesheets by name? Not the syspref that says on or off, but if on, go find e.g. MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl and apply it? 20:36 larsw (he says, not having used a public library since 1994) 20:36 larsw sad 20:35 chris yah 20:35 wizzyrea oi vey 20:34 chris http://werewolf.co.nz/2010/05/closing-the-books-on-libraries/ 20:33 chris back 20:23 wizzyrea fines* receipts 20:22 wizzyrea ? 20:22 wizzyrea gmcharlt: will kmkale's receipt print patch make it into the alpha? or is it a feature, thus not eligible for inclusion 19:29 cait good night 19:27 DRUlm Well, later all, it will all work out in the end. "How?" It's a mystery! 19:26 DRUlm "There can only be one?" - The Highlander? 19:17 DRUlm Actually, I think I just like "Koha" 19:17 DRUlm "There can only be one?" 19:17 DRUlm owen, Koha it is, your statement reminds me of something said again and again in the Highlander movie, hmmmm, what was it? 19:16 owen DRUlm: Under what circumstances are you finding it difficult to express this? 19:16 DRUlm So C.K., that works too. 19:15 chris_n we should always use koha-community.org as the main site imho... make other urls pointers to that 19:15 DRUlm Oh I see "Community-Koha", ok well K.C. (yeah that is that the periods are all about), like C.H.U.D. (movie reference) 19:15 chris p 19:15 chris ok time to get the kids u[ 19:15 owen And otherwise call it Koha, as there is only one Koha. 19:15 owen How about we stick to "koha-community.org" so as not to muddy the waters at a sensitive time 19:15 chris its a word not an acronym 19:15 chris than KOHA .. yes Koha 19:14 DRUlm (or name I mean)? 19:14 DRUlm I agree, but is there a better thing? 19:14 chris_n collum: LOL :D 19:13 jdavidb Finally! 19:13 * munin reloads and spins the chambers. 19:13 munin *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! 19:13 jdavidb @roulette 19:12 * wizzyrea 's too 19:12 * owen 's too 19:12 chris pet peeve 19:11 chris just dont call it KOHA-community 19:11 DRUlm Also phonetically Kasey (at the bat) which is a famous library book no doubt 19:11 wizzyrea or k-c 19:11 wizzyrea I normally use k-c.org 19:11 wizzyrea I don't think anybody would object to that abbreviation 19:10 DRUlm But K.C. is nice and short to be used to save typing 19:10 DRUlm I mean Koha-Community is nice, especially with the wacky new show called Community hitting rave reviews 19:10 wizzyrea ;) 19:10 wizzyrea < lives near there 19:10 DRUlm That too 19:09 wizzyrea Kansas City 19:09 DRUlm K.C. has a nice ring to it, and perhaps may remind people of the 1970s, when things were starting to look up :) 19:08 DRUlm Like K.C. and the Sunshine Band 19:08 DRUlm K.C. 19:08 DRUlm How about for short it is called 19:08 DRUlm Idea for Koha Community 19:02 nengard and thanks gmcharlt - i'll be A-OK now that I know what it is and what to do about it :) 19:02 nengard manual is here: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=summary 19:01 nengard ttyl (and PS - I have updated the manual with all of the patches that Galen has pushed in the last few days) 19:01 gmcharlt nengard: :( get better soon 19:01 nengard so i'm going to sleep this off and be 100% tomorrow 19:01 nengard okay - i need to rest now - had a test this AM that prooved that I don't have asthma afterall - but it did cause my real condition to flare up after a week of no problems 18:57 nengard awww :( hehe 18:57 collum Your lack of memory is compensated by the fact that your kids eventually know everything. 18:57 wizzyrea ;) 18:57 wizzyrea j/k j/k 18:57 * wizzyrea runs to the corner to sob 18:57 wizzyrea true enough I suppose 18:56 nengard I can experience that with friends' kids 18:56 nengard ahhh ;) hehe 18:56 wizzyrea (helicopters) 18:56 wizzyrea but you miss out on them talking about ackicockters 18:55 nengard yet another check mark in my reasons why not to have kids column :) 18:52 owen I had a good memory before I had kids 18:50 nengard I got me a good memory :) 18:48 * owen can't remember as far back as 2008 18:46 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2806 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, issuingbranch isn't used 18:45 nengard bug 2806 18:45 nengard sounds familiar 18:45 nengard owen, gmcharlt - i think there is a bug to that effect 18:34 gmcharlt but will be sorely disappointed, as nothing populates it :) 18:33 owen That is news to catalogue/issuehistory.pl, which attempts to display it 18:33 gmcharlt owen: correct, it's not used 18:33 owen Interesting... the 'issuingbranch' column in the issues table seems to be unused. 18:33 wizzyrea he's modest 18:27 munin chris_n: Error: "#for" is not a valid command. 18:27 chris_n munin++ #for being underrated 18:27 munin chris_n: Karma for "munin" has been increased 7 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 4. 18:27 chris_n @karma munin 18:26 chris_n munin++ 18:26 munin chris_n: The operation succeeded. 18:26 chris_n @later tell km_kale you should try resending your patch and/or checking your git send-email setup; see http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage#fill_some_parameters 18:25 chris_n gmcharlt: thanks 18:25 gmcharlt chris_n: nope, it's not stuck in moderation 18:23 chris_n another satisfied customer :) 18:23 nengard woo hoo - worked ! you all rock :) 18:22 * chris_n wonders if km_kale 's patch got put in koha-patches jail 18:22 gmcharlt k 18:22 nengard gmcharlt - am going to resend the last patch - i know it was pushed already but it's all i have to test with - just ignore it :) 18:21 nengard thanks found it 18:18 chris_n git config --global sendemail.smtppass your_password 18:18 nengard thanks! 18:18 * chris_n added gmail config how-to earlier: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage#fill_some_parameters 18:18 nengard will it prompt for my password or is there a line i need for that too? 18:18 chris_n the rest is the same as your personal gmail account settings 18:18 nengard thanks chris_n 18:17 chris_n and fixup your password to match 18:17 chris_n nengard: just setup 'git config --global sendemail.smtpuser your_email@bywatersolutions.com' 18:15 jdavidb Hi, cait. :) 18:15 cait hi #koha 18:13 chris my boxes all can send email without an smtp gateway 18:12 chris yeah, i dunno 18:12 nengard it's the debian install that chris helped me set up 18:12 nengard i just need to know the command to type to get into my settings so i can change them 18:12 nengard not bywater's 18:12 nengard gmcharlt - it's my local install 18:11 gmcharlt nengard: that might better addressed to sekjal or brendan 18:11 nengard was just easier to keep it the way it was working 18:11 nengard this is why i waited so long to change things :) 18:11 nengard yup - how do i get to smtp settings on my server though? like is said it was ages ago that we did this 18:11 chris that would be my guess 18:11 nengard right 18:11 chris not your personal username and password to connect to gmail 18:10 chris it means you should use their gmail set up 18:10 gmcharlt ok, one sent from gmail.com with a cc to bywatersolutins.com 18:10 nengard chris does that mean i should change smtp? bywater mail is google too 18:10 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4442 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, rename batch edit tools 18:10 nengard bug 4442 18:09 chris its the latest mail to the patches list 18:09 gmcharlt nengard: what was the bug number? 18:09 nengard gmcharlt sent at 1:15pm EST 18:09 chris yeah then its probably that rewriting the from 18:09 nengard the email was at least 18:09 nengard gmcharlt it was from my gmail address 18:08 nengard i don't remember - set it up ages ago - but my assumption would be yes considering my gmail is what sent the message 18:08 gmcharlt nengard: I don't see any patch from your ByWater address to the patches list 18:08 chris and how is your mail sent with git send-email does it use gmail as its smtp? 18:07 nengard it's just sending from gmail to the patches list 18:07 chris yup 18:07 nengard so i guess that's fine then 18:07 nengard looks right 18:07 nengard From: Nicole Engard <nengard@bywatersolutions.com> 18:07 nengard From 8005e597fbf6f609e84ef903044a305821f5543e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 18:07 nengard found it 18:07 nengard iono :) it's the last patch sent to the patches list - i don't see a name on it 18:06 chris and the author and committer look right in the patch? 18:03 nengard git send-email 18:02 chris how are you sending the mail? 18:00 nengard so no - did not commit before that 18:00 nengard and the commit was done today 18:00 nengard chris i did that email change yesterday 17:53 chris if you want to get older ones, the easiest way to do that is to branch off git.koha.org/master .. cherry-pick the oldest commit, amend it, do the next oldest etc .. you should of course not do this for any commits you have sent as patches already 17:51 chris git commit --amend --author="Nicole Engard <fixed@email.address>" 17:50 chris if you want to fix a commit you had done, if its the latest one 17:50 joetho david schuster, thanks for the good idea schuster++ 17:49 chris if so, its already marked them as being from the address you had set when you committed 17:49 chris had you done your commits before that? 17:46 nengard ideas? 17:46 nengard but now it's CCing that email address ... not marked as from it ... 17:46 nengard git config --global user.email "your@mail.com" 17:46 nengard i have a git question ... I wanted to change the email my patches are sent from so I did this 17:26 kmkale_ anyway time to go home. Bye all 17:23 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4440 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Adding feature to print fines/fees receipts 17:23 kmkale_ do I need to upload attachments at bugs.koha.org against this bug 4440? 17:21 kf now time to go home - bye all! 17:21 * kf installed virtual box and koha successfully on computer at work 17:20 munin kf: Karma for "kf" has been increased 12 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 12. 17:20 kf @karma kf 17:19 kf kmkale++ :) 17:19 kmkale_ :) 17:19 kmkale_ and gmcharlt++ 17:19 kmkale_ wizzyrea++ 17:19 kmkale_ kf++ 17:19 kmkale_ chris_n++ 17:19 kmkale_ gr8 thanks gmcharlt 17:18 gmcharlt kmkale_: for 3.4, but yes, I imagine it will 17:18 kmkale_ aye you guyz made it possible and chris in the afternoon of course by giving me hints about templates. Hope it gets in 17:17 chris_n kmkale++ 17:17 kf thx for a great new feature :) 17:16 kmkale_ now a big thanks to chris_n, kf and wizzyrea 17:16 kmkale_ aah sendmail says OK 17:15 kmkale_ k 17:15 chris_n you can ignore that 17:14 kmkale_ now whats Message-ID to be used as In-Reply-To for the first email? 17:13 kmkale_ so chris_n is helping me make a new one 17:12 kmkale_ kf: that had multiple line in subject due to my ignorance of rgit 17:10 pastebot "kmkale_" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "patch contents" (258 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/4 17:05 kf hm, mine always start with 0001, like the other patch files listed 17:04 kf kmkale: there is a file print_fee_receipts.patch, this should be the file you can send to the mailinglist 17:00 pastebot "kmkale_" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "git status" (20 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/3 16:53 kf hope it will work, following chris instructions to install PDF::API2::Simple 16:52 kf thx 16:52 jcamins $ sudo chown koha $DIRNAME 16:52 jcamins Yes. 16:52 kf can someone help? linux newbie 16:52 kf ok, using ubuntu, I want to get in a directory owned by root... my user is koha and I get permission denied with cd directory 16:52 jcamins I wonder why everything goes wonky when I try batches of 7000. 16:51 jcamins kmkale_: Really? Huh. 16:50 kmkale_ jcamins: I have done 60000 records frequently 16:49 jdavidb "When faced with moments of indecision, toss a coin. Not to let the coin decide things for you, but because, in the instant while the coin is in the air, you will suddenly know what *you* want to happen." 16:48 jcamins At least on our system. 16:48 jcamins So, based on my wholly unscientific testing, 6000 records is a practical maximum for stage marc records for import. 16:48 munin jdavidb: heads 16:48 jdavidb @coin 16:42 schuster joetho - I'm on that mailing list and they are very helpful and Terry listens and answers pretty quick usually. 16:41 munin kf: *click* 16:41 kf @roulette 16:41 jdavidb rats. 16:41 munin jdavidb: *click* 16:41 jdavidb @roulette 16:41 jdavidb mhm. 16:41 joetho it's been a long week, huh? 16:41 joetho wow jdavidb 16:39 munin jdavidb: *click* 16:39 jdavidb @roulette 16:39 joetho thks 16:39 joetho the listserv is a good ideer 16:39 jcamins Hm. 16:39 joetho I am reluctant to re-send requests for help 16:38 joetho I tried the marcedit help message on the website 16:38 jcamins There's a Marcedit mailing list... perhaps someone on there would know. 16:37 joetho I have also tried a single record 16:37 joetho tried that 16:36 jcamins Could you have a blank line at the end, or something? 16:36 jcamins Hm. I have no idea what to make of that. 16:35 joetho import template- matches text/csv field headings to corresponding marc21 tags 16:34 joetho I have doubletripleandfourple-checked the import template 16:34 joetho System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index and length must refer to a location within the string. 16:34 joetho here is the first part of my error message (when using marcedit delim text translator): 16:34 jcamins *manage 16:33 jcamins When I went to the mange marc import page, the new import was not listed. 16:33 jcamins schuster: After waiting several minutes, the page reloaded as if nothing had happened. 16:32 schuster joetho - get it worked out? 16:32 jdavidb rats. 16:32 schuster Why what happened to you? 16:32 munin jdavidb: *click* 16:32 jdavidb @roulette 16:32 schuster I saw there was a problem with that someplace, but don't know the limit. 16:31 jcamins Somewhat smaller than 5.9MB (10k records), apparently. 16:31 jcamins Does anyone know what the maximum (reasonable) file size is for staging MARC records for import? 16:30 owen Not your day joetho 16:29 * munin reloads and spins the chambers. 16:29 munin *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! 16:29 joetho @roulette 16:29 joetho well you know what I meant, munin 16:29 munin joetho: Error: "jcamins" is not a valid command. 16:29 joetho @jcamins just a second 16:28 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4440 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Adding feature to print fines/fees receipts 16:28 kmkale_ Bug 4440 16:28 jcamins What error are you getting? (I've never used the delimited text translator, but I'll take a stab at it anyway). 16:27 joetho The error seems to be non-marcedit 16:26 joetho I am using the "delimited text translator" and I can't get it to work. 16:23 jcamins joetho: I'm not an expert, but what do you need? 16:23 kmkale_ thanks wizzyrea. One participating library of granthalaya.org has been bugging me for this. Thats what drove me plus the fact that its summer vacation time so much less work loads 16:22 * wizzyrea 's institution has been *begging* for that 16:22 wizzyrea kmkale++ that's really good 16:21 joetho I am having a problem converting a txt file back to marc21 16:21 joetho Any MarcEdit experts here today? 16:19 kmkale_ thanks kf 16:19 kf kmkale++ 16:18 kmkale_ ok let me try. 16:18 chris_n if not, see the wiki page ref'd above 16:18 chris_n assuming you have setup git to send email 16:17 chris_n then 'git send-email your-feature.patch' 16:17 kmkale_ k 16:17 chris_n that will produce a *.patch file 16:17 chris_n and 'git format-patch origin' 16:17 chris_n the exit the editor 16:17 kf what is the login? 16:17 chris_n and any other foo you'd like to include in the patch below the first line of the commit message 16:17 * kf is curious too... 16:16 kmkale_ chris_n: thats exactly I was going to ask next 16:16 chris_n so like "Enhancement Bug XXXX: Adding feature to print fines/fees receipts" 16:16 wizzyrea we got an "Ooooh!" out of sharon 16:16 wizzyrea and yea, very nice work 16:15 chris_n include the bug number in the first line of the commit message 16:15 chris_n if you created a bug 16:15 chris_n then 'git commit' 16:15 chris_n sorry 16:15 chris_n kmkale_: you need to 'git add' the two files you created 16:12 kmkale_ :) 16:12 kmkale_ wizzyrea: that page got me upto here 16:12 kmkale_ thanks chris_n 16:12 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage 16:12 chris_n kmkale_: nice work! 16:12 wizzyrea (and send it via email to koha-patches@lists.koha.org) 16:11 kmkale_ git commit? 16:11 kmkale_ how? 16:11 wizzyrea then submit your patch using git 16:11 kmkale_ ok 16:11 wizzyrea make a bug on bugs.koha.org, mark it as enhancement and "sponsored" 16:11 kmkale_ wizzyrea: can you repeat plz? I just caught the last statement.. 16:10 wizzyrea (2 big steps, lots of little ones re: git, but those are the big ones) 16:10 kmkale_ chris_n: borrowernumber=1 16:10 wizzyrea steps 16:10 wizzyrea no, there are really only 2 stpes 16:09 wizzyrea yeps 16:09 kmkale_ wizzyrea: was the above for me? cause I missed most of it as a result of restarting the router 16:09 chris_n k, in 16:09 wizzyrea then submit your patch using git 16:09 chris_n getting some data 16:09 * chris_n tries now 16:08 wizzyrea make a bug on bugs.koha.org, mark it as enhancement and "sponsored" 16:08 kmkale_ chris_n: can you try now? 16:08 chris_n ops 16:08 wizzyrea but the basic steps 16:08 wizzyrea yea, timed out for me too 16:06 chris_n well, it times out from here now :( 16:05 wizzyrea we are going to kill your upstream ;) 16:04 kf works now :) 15:59 chris_n sure thing 15:59 kmkale give me a min? 15:59 chris_n wonderful things firewalls :) 15:59 kmkale &^*&^&% 15:58 kmkale aww by broadband router 15:58 wizzyrea < same here 15:58 chris_n hmm.... firefox says unable to connect 15:58 kmkale if yoiu want to have a look and suggest something before I go any further 15:57 kmkale http://59.181.126.113:8001 15:57 chris_n I'll still look forward to seeing it as my librarians were asking for such a creature just yesterday 15:56 kmkale but usefull for my purpose 15:56 kmkale aww chris_n: what I have done is too simple for that 15:56 chris_n kmkale: I'll be glad to help with testing when you get to that point 15:55 chris_n kmkale++ 15:55 kf yes, you can add the bug number to the commit message 15:55 kmkale chris_n: yes. 15:55 kmkale OK. Let me try. I think I messed it up once. Shouldent I first create a enhancement request or something? and then commit against that bug number? 15:55 kf after that there is a file you can send to the mailing lists, you can also use gut send-email, but this will perhaps need a little configuration 15:55 chris_n kmkale: are you going to add the ability to print fees/fines? 15:54 kmkale and he pointed in the direction to look of course so chris ++ 15:54 kf thats what I have written down and used so far 15:54 kf the next step after git add is git commit and after that git format-patch origin 15:53 kmkale so here I am 15:53 kmkale chris pushed me today afternoon when I asked for printing fee receipts said patches welcome!! 15:53 * kf blushes 15:53 kf have you made git add for all files changed? 15:53 jdavidb kf++ # for friendliness, too. 15:52 kf hm I wonder if those files should be listed underchanges to be committed 15:52 kf karma! 15:52 wizzyrea kf++ # for general smartness and helpfulness 15:52 kf I m also a newbie, but can tell you what I do :) 15:52 kmkale kf: did that. Above is after add. 15:52 kf for the modified files 15:51 kf git add <file> 15:51 wizzyrea < not the git master :( sorry 15:51 kmkale what next? 15:50 kmkale # new file: members/printfeercpt.pl 15:50 kmkale # new file: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/fee-receipt.tmpl 15:50 kmkale # modified: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/boraccount.tmpl 15:50 kmkale # 15:50 kmkale # (use "git reset HEAD <file>..." to unstage) 15:50 kmkale # Changes to be committed: 15:50 kmkale # 15:50 kmkale # Your branch is ahead of 'origin/master' by 3 commits. 15:50 kmkale # On branch kkwork 15:50 kmkale kk@kk:~/kohaclone$ git status 15:50 kmkale wizzyrea: This is what I see on my git statuc now 15:50 wizzyrea for very starters 15:49 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/get-involved/for-developers/ 15:49 wizzyrea kmkale: <3 spectacular 15:48 kmkale guyz on git usage I have just hacked about a bit to be able to print fee receipts from boraccount.pl. Seems to be working on my machine. Can you guide me on creating a enhancement request and submitting a patch for it? 15:42 owen chris_n++ 15:42 wizzyrea chris_n: !!!!! sweet! 15:42 chris_n http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage#fill_some_parameters 15:41 chris_n for anyone interested, I just added steps to setup git to use your gmail or gmail-hosted account as an smtp server 15:38 owen Grr... Ubuntu upgrade on my VM seems to have stalled... 15:35 kf hey chris_n :) 15:33 chris_n hey kf 15:28 kf hi #koha 15:27 jwagner gotta run, back online later. 15:26 jwagner Well, that's one I've never seen. Just tried it.... 15:25 gmcharlt you can do that by adding 2567 to the depends on field in bug 3013 15:24 gmcharlt jwagner: agreed 15:24 jwagner I'll add a reference to 2567 into 3013 15:23 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3013 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner@ptfs.com, REOPENED, Value builder for 007 and 008 seems to only include choices for Book -- need all format types 15:23 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2567 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, 008 editor falsely populating Illustrations and Nature of Contents positions 15:23 jwagner gmcharlt, worth adding that to Bug 3013 ? I did the 007 but have never had time to work on the 006 and 008 pieces. 15:23 jcamins Yeah, here it is. Bug 2567. 15:21 jcamins Ah. That explains the confusion. 15:20 gmcharlt and ditto for CRs 15:20 gmcharlt jwagner: jcamins: in other words, that's an actual glitch with the 008 editor template - it should be specifying dropdowns for those for possitions for the BK format 15:19 jwagner wizzyrea++ 15:19 * wizzyrea cheers 15:19 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual-fr/?ch=c25#AEN27 15:19 gmcharlt yep, but that's nonsense for those 008 positions 15:18 jwagner jcamins, I _think_ the derived value comment means that Koha will try to set the 008 from the leader. gmcharlt, am I right on that? 15:16 gmcharlt and not defined for any other format 15:16 jcamins gmcharlt: The problem I'm having is that Koha just says "(derived value)" in the editor. 15:16 gmcharlt 008/25-27 for continuing resources 15:16 gmcharlt looks like 008/24-27 for books 15:15 gmcharlt jcamins: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd008.html 15:14 * chris_n freely confesses his great ignorance of most things marc related 15:13 jcamins I am absolutely certain this is documented somewhere, but I am just not finding where... does anyone know where "nature of contents" is derived from for MARC21 008? 15:13 chris_n copy-and-paste++ #simplifies wiki editing :) 15:13 wizzyrea wikis++ #for being helpful, despite that 15:13 wizzyrea wikis-- #for being different from anything else. 15:12 jcamins Hello, #koha 15:10 jwagner_meeting wizzyrea, I personally have never quite grasped the concept at all -- I approach all wiki edits with great trepidation :-) 15:09 * wizzyrea just realized she had a total brain fart on "how you add things to a wiki" 15:09 wizzyrea thanks for posting the minutes pages on the wiki 15:08 wizzyrea lulz 15:08 wizzyrea er 15:08 wizzyrea chris_n: : 14:58 wizzyrea yay, we don't have to eat chris's bandwidth anymore 14:57 wizzyrea handy! 14:57 gmcharlt owen: git statistics, rather - http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/ 14:57 owen built-in gitstatus? 14:57 wizzyrea okie 14:56 wizzyrea (or is that a politically incorrect thing to ask >.>) 14:56 gmcharlt I'm pushing to both for now 14:56 gmcharlt git.koha-community.org does have built-in gitstatus 14:56 wizzyrea gmcharlt: which are you using? 14:56 gmcharlt so for now, patches will be the same regardless of which you pull from 14:56 gmcharlt owen: git.koha.org and git.koha-community.org currently mirror each other 14:55 owen What is the current recommendation? Use git.koha-community.org? 14:45 * chris_n wonders if we will have more than the usual number of participants/lurkers in this week's meetings 14:39 * jdavidb chuckles 14:37 * collum needs a hobby. 14:37 * collum was anticipating and getting excited that there might be some big ILS news. 14:36 * owen disappointed that he wasn't here to get the inside scoop 14:33 gmcharlt seems to work 14:32 mbreeding hi all. Just gettin a new irc client installed and tested. 14:32 chris_n heya mbreeding 14:31 chris_n owen: who is kung-fu... ;) 14:31 gmcharlt hi mbreeding 14:27 mbreeding Hello. 14:27 owen Hi mbreeding 14:25 * owen also knows kung-fu 14:24 wizzyrea owen: you summersault all over that bug. 14:24 wizzyrea hehe 14:23 * chris_n tries not to inadvertently volunteer folks for things as much as possible ;-) 14:23 * wizzyrea is having grammar issues today 14:23 wizzyrea I imagine it will be a team effort no matter whose name goes on it. 14:22 wizzyrea chris_n: no worries :) 14:22 chris_n but I'll be glad to do it up once gmcharlt finishes the release notes for alpha2 14:22 chris_n sorry wizzyrea; I got the idea you were working on one from this tidbit: http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2010-05-01#i_431256 14:12 wizzyrea rather, hoping that I did it right >.> 14:11 wizzyrea < was off doing the french version of the manual for the site 14:11 wizzyrea lol! fair enough :) 14:01 gmcharlt no, I got the impression that you were volunteered :) 14:00 * wizzyrea didn't remember signing up for that task... but was willing to take it on if necessary 14:00 gmcharlt once those are done, I'll put them on a wiki for fine-tuning 14:00 wizzyrea gmcharlt: brilliant 14:00 gmcharlt wizzyrea: I'm putting release notes together today for the release of alpha2 14:00 * jdavidb waves at wizzyrea. 13:59 wizzyrea So. Apparently I'm working on a feature list >.> 13:59 wizzyrea sup :) 13:59 wizzyrea now* 13:59 wizzyrea nwo 13:59 wizzyrea I'I am here 13:43 kf bbl 13:43 jdavidb looks like the ghost of wizzyrea. 13:42 munin jdavidb: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 2 days, 15 hours, 41 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> you would need to remove the attached event, chris 13:42 jdavidb @seen wizzyrea 13:42 schuster wizzyrea - you really there or is that a phantom? 13:39 schuster OK. Thanks kf 13:38 DRUlm gmchalt: I need to keep testing 13:38 schuster X51 __ |a South Dakota 13:38 DRUlm gmcharlt: Just on the copied from OPAC XSLT to the staff interface, links mostly, but it looked a little off 13:38 kf schuster: I meant I did not find the reason for the bug - but thx schuster 13:37 schuster Not sure exactly what you are looking for... kf. 13:37 schuster kf - authorities a - is usually the "base" part of the authority heading - or Authoritized. Often you can add to an authoritized heading with "free floaters" etc... 13:36 gmcharlt DRUlm: good to hear. run into any problems? 13:36 DRUlm gmcharlt: Cool on the release. The upgrade process from 3.0 to 3.2 worked better than it ever has in the past version to version 13:35 DRUlm So I must have been running Koha3.2-Null-Set or something, Pre Alpha sounds so Null 13:33 gmcharlt DRUlm: alpha2 will be coming out tomorrow; just working on getting release notes into better shape 13:25 kf jwagner: I think I tried to find out some time ago (this is a old bug I forgot to report :( ) but without success. 13:22 DRUlm How is Koha land? and How is Koha 3.2, I just upgraded (on a VM) to 3.2alpha with our production data. It went pretty smooth. There are a few bugs, any of note that are causing issues? 13:20 owen Hi DRUlm 13:20 DRUlm Hello 13:10 jwagner kf, I took a quick look, but I don't see how the code is setting/passing the subfields. It's going to take someone more familiar with authorities than I am to fix it. 13:07 kf not sure if he planned to add a slip for fines, perhaps talk to him 13:06 kf I think kmkale was asking the same question earlier today 13:01 * chris_n thinks the 'Print' button on boraccount.pl is a bit deceptive in that regard 13:01 chris_n is there a way to print a detailed account invoice for a patron with fines due? 13:00 kf chris_n: good morning :) 13:00 chris_n g'morning all 12:59 gmcharlt http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/unicode/unicod00.html 12:58 gmcharlt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SignWriting 12:57 jdavidb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stokoe_notation 12:56 gmcharlt although I suppose videos may suffice for that 12:55 * gmcharlt idly wonders if there is a notation for ASL that would permit one to learn new gestures 12:54 * jdavidb has some talent, occasionally. 12:52 gmcharlt neat trick over IRC 12:51 * jdavidb was trying to sing Gollum's little song from _Lord of the Rings_. But typoed, and apparently did it in American Sign Language instead. 12:49 * kf looks confused at jdavidb 12:46 * jdavidb can't even sing right today. 12:43 * jdavidb signs in a guttural voice, "The rock and pool, is nice and cool, so juicy, sweeeeeet!" 12:42 kf jwagner: no idea why this happens and no time right now :( have to set up a development koha here on my computer first (finally got permission) 12:41 jwagner Are you going to do a patch? 12:41 jwagner tricksy little hobbittssesssss 12:40 kf is tricksy good or bad? 12:40 jwagner Tricksy... 12:39 kf I was surprised that it worked, but it did 12:39 kf changed 12:39 kf I changes my link :) 12:37 jwagner kf, authority searching isn't turned on in that catalog -- how did you get that result? 12:34 kf jwagner: I wanted to make sure its not a problem with our data 12:33 jwagner Haven't noticed it myself, but I rarely do authority searches. I'll take a look -- thanks. 12:33 kf jwagner: I tell you because I saw this problem in your test opac for landman library too (was the first link I had) 12:33 gmcharlt if there are any left, there are very few 12:32 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4433 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, $a displayed in front of topical subjects in authority search 12:32 kf jwagner: added a new bug today bug 4433 12:32 jwagner I really hope there aren't any other situations where the system checks 942c item type instead of item-level itype, but I have a hunch there are. Sigh.... 12:30 kf gmcharlt++ :) 12:30 jwagner But thanks for fixing this problem. It was a real bear. 12:30 kf repeating what you have written gives me less room for grammar mistakes 12:30 jwagner No, right conversation. And I don't promise to _always_ test and close.... 12:29 gmcharlt unless I've misunderstood the conversation, which is also possible :) 12:29 gmcharlt no, the "please test and close wording" 12:29 kf was about to ask about the trend too :) 12:29 jwagner What trend? Fixing things? But you always did that!!! 12:29 gmcharlt jwagner: finally, I have started a trend! mwa-ha-ha! 12:28 * owen resumes his job as button-pusher 12:28 jwagner Hope it works as well for you as it did for me :-) Thanks, gmcharlt 12:27 kf jwagner: will test and close ;) 12:27 kf hi owen 12:27 * jdavidb waves to owen. 12:26 owen Hi #koha 12:24 * kf gives munin some chocolate 11:54 kmkale_ wow!! Munin+++ 11:53 munin kf: An index term added entry that is not constructed by standard subject heading/thesaurus-building conventions. (Repeatable) [a,6,8] 11:53 kf @marc 653 11:33 kf hope it helps :) 11:32 kf was at my parents' this weekend 11:32 jdavidb ooo....chocolate... thanks, kf! (A day that *starts* with "harrumph" does not bode well. Getting soaked by rain waiting for the bus didn't help.) 11:31 * kf shares her swiss chocolate easter bunny 11:30 jdavidb Hi, Amit_G and kf (and gmcharlt). 11:29 kf morning jdavidb and gmcharlt 11:29 Amit_G heya galen 11:27 gmcharlt good morning 11:23 Amit_G heya jdavidb 11:20 jdavidb harrrumph. mornin, #koha 09:44 kf when searching for authorities in opac I have $asubject in display, but only for topical subjects, I dont know where this $a comes from :( 09:41 magnus never really tried it, even 09:41 kf anybody else using authorities? 09:40 magnus kf: sorry, no 09:40 magnus hi kf and Amit_G 09:40 kf magnus: are u using authorities? 09:40 Amit_G hi magnus 09:40 kf hi magnus 09:40 kf Amit_G: sorry, no 09:39 Amit_G anybody generate patron card with koha 09:31 magnus g'day #koha 09:24 Irinie Thanks, I will try. 09:23 kmkale Irinie: try this http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=openoffice_excel_delimited_text_to_koha_using_marcedit 09:21 Irinie I have to install the program Marc editor? 09:03 Amit_G after that run bulkmarc perl script 09:03 Amit_G http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reeset/marcedit/html/index.php 09:02 Irinie could you clearify more 09:01 Amit_G Irinie: use MARC edit for this 09:00 Irinie I just want to ask if there is a way to do a migration to data from excel sheet to Koha (using Marc 21 format)? 09:00 Amit_G Hi Irninie 09:00 Irinie Hi 08:56 kmkale its moremember.pl line 80 08:56 chris yeah you need to find the script that calls that too 08:55 kmkale moremember-receipt.tmpl? 08:55 kmkale chris: by pritslip code did you mean moremember-receipt? 08:50 kmkale but a member library of granthalaya.org is bugging the hell out of me over this :( 08:49 kmkale let me give it a try although I know perl like i know men on mars ;) 08:48 chris because what the print slip does is use a template without all the navigaton etc 08:48 chris not easily 08:48 kmkale and a syspref to control whether it prints or not? 08:47 kmkale cant add to maninvoice.tmpl? 08:47 chris a new script and some javascript to call the print function in the browser 08:47 chris take a look at the printslip code, you will need to do something like that you will need a new template 08:45 kmkale chris: I am looking at maninvoice.pl code. If I want to print a slip when the form is saved what do I need to do? any hints? 08:39 kmkale :) 08:39 chris patches accepted :) 08:39 kmkale It would be nice to generate a printout of fines and receipts. and also any manual invoices we generate. 08:38 kmkale yes chris I tried that and it printed the table 08:38 chris and if it has print stylesheet it will use that 08:38 kmkale chris: its misleading 08:38 kf kmkale: chris is right, the slips are not for fines but for checkouts. an option to print fine slips would be a nice enhanement 08:38 chris if you want to just print the fines table, just choose print in your browser 08:38 kmkale Has anyone done any enhancement on printing the fines and fee receipts? 08:38 chris they are there on every page to do with borrowers, adn they do the same thing 08:37 kmkale ouch! but then the print drop down should not be there when we go to fines tab. Or on fines tab it should print the fines table displayed. 08:36 chris ie, those buttons are on every page to do with a borrower, not specific to the fines page 08:36 chris i dont think it prints out the fines, i think the print slip or print page is only to print out the persons items they have issued 08:35 kmkale should't I get a print ut of the fines table shown on the screen instead of the three lines? 08:34 kmkale hi amit 08:34 Amit_G heya kmkale 08:34 kmkale cant find a bug regarding this 08:34 kmkale hi Chris 08:34 kmkale In both 3.0.5 and master when I try to print a slip or page from the drop down on Fines page I only get a page with three lines on it. Library name, checked out to < patron card no > , and third line Checkd out today. 08:32 chris hi kmkale 08:31 kmkale Hi friends 08:20 kf will ask him, thx :) 08:14 chris so knows much more about it than me 08:14 chris hmm not that im aware of, if you see fredericd you could ask him, he did the work making the sysprefs translatable 08:13 kf we have problems to install translation of syspref editor - is there a known bug or something? 07:57 chris hi for 3 hours time when you wake up :) 07:57 chris ahh i bet that was an autoconnect 07:57 chris hi SelfishMan 07:53 CGI949 tnx to all 07:50 Kivutar CGI949: you can find bulkmarcimport.pl in misc/migration_tools 07:49 CGI949 yes , MARC21 , with extention file *.ISO 07:48 kf chris: thx, will use git.koha-community.org 07:46 chris kf: at the moment both work, but ive switched to using git.koha-community.org 07:46 Kivutar i think he means iso2709 07:45 kf Im not sure what ISO format is. Koha can work with MARC21 and UNIMARC, you have to choose during install. For item information Koha uses field 952. You need a, b, p, and x there. 07:45 Kivutar CGI949: use bulkmarcimport.pl 07:42 CGI949 i wana convert ISO file from my database to koha database , what steps should i do for it ? 07:41 CGI949 ok 07:40 kf CGI949: just ask your question, if somebody here can help they will answer 07:40 kf chris: is it git.koha-community.org now? 07:40 CGI949 anyone can help me ? 07:40 CGI949 i need some info about koha data convert 07:39 CGI949 hi there 07:38 kf will set up virual box with koha on my computer at work today :) 07:37 kf hi chris 07:36 chris hi kf 07:28 kf hi Amit_g 07:27 Amit_G heya kf 07:26 kf good morning #koha 04:42 darling_ hey 04:42 Amit_G heya darling_ 04:14 chris hi kware 04:12 kware hello eveyone 03:44 brendan hiya Amit_G 03:43 chris hi Amit_G 03:40 Amit_G Good morning #koha 03:40 Amit_G heya brendan, chris 02:54 chris_n g'night all 02:35 mason thanks again :) 02:34 mason aaah ta, ive done this* many* times, but im having a little silly-spell 02:33 gmcharlt print $fh $marc->as_usmarc() 02:33 gmcharlt just open an ordinary filehande and do 02:33 gmcharlt if you're just writing ISO2709 records to a file 02:32 mason ive had a google, but cant find any decent examples :/ 02:32 gmcharlt MARC::File::XML is the only subclass that implements write() 02:32 mason so, Q is.. whats the syntax to 'Writes a record to the output file. This method must be overridden in your subclass.'? 02:31 mason sorry, about the pasting.. 02:31 mason Method write must be overridden at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File.pm line 156. 02:31 mason DB<1> 02:31 mason main::(./11.pl:27): $file2->write( $marc); 02:30 mason 1 tic... 02:29 mason $file2->write( $marc); 02:29 mason my $file2 = MARC::File::USMARC->in( '22.marc' ); 02:29 gmcharlt ? 02:28 mason gmcharlt: about for a MARC::File q? 00:38 brendan that will be nice to have 00:34 chris_n or the version_info method to see what versions are required vs what are installed 00:33 chris_n but you can do other things too, like invoke the required method to see what deps are required and what are optional 00:32 chris_n rather than having to keep up with multiple locations 00:32 chris_n yeah, the big thing is it gives us a single point for adding deps 00:30 chris oh cool 00:29 chris_n I've been working on C4::Installer::PerlModules to handle all of the perl dep foo 00:23 chris slightly overcast 00:23 chris not too bad 00:22 * chris_n likes to know in advance 00:22 chris_n how's monday looking chris :) 00:22 chris heya chris_n 00:21 brendan heys chris_n 00:21 chris_n 'evening