Time  Nick       Message
00:22 chris      @wunder wellington,nz
00:22 munin      chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (11:00 AM NZST on April 20, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
01:07 chris_n    @wunder 28334
01:07 munin      chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 11.8�C (9:07 PM EDT on April 19, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Falling).
02:10 pastebot   "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "How cool is this?" (46 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/1
02:10 chris      larsw++
03:24 Amit_G     heya brendan, chris
03:24 chris      hi Amit_G
03:29 Amit_G     heya genji
03:29 genji      hiya all.
04:07 brendan    heya Amit_G
06:55 magnus     g'day #koha
06:59 alohabot   hiya magnus
07:00 magnus     hi alohabot
07:00 mason      bah, wrong window :p
07:01 mason      magnus: any news about the weather over by you...?
07:02 magnus     mason: we have been clear of the cloud for a day or two now, but it's coming back. Closed airports in the west as a beginning.
07:04 mason      oooh, just looking at video now...
07:07 mason      magnus: this stuff is pretty good...
07:07 mason      http://www.youtube.com/user/martzata
07:24 magnus     mason: yeah, good & scary!
07:37 kf         good morning #koha
07:41 magnus     good morning kf
07:42 kf         hi magnus
07:58 kf         meeting, bbl
08:36 hdl_laptop hi all
10:37 chris_n    g'morning
11:49 Amit_G     heya jwagner
11:50 chris_n    heya Amit_G
11:50 Amit_G     heya chris_n, jdavidb
11:50 chris_n    Amit_G: have you worked any more with pazpar2?
11:50 jdavidb    Hi, Amit_G. :)
11:51 Amit_G     right now i m not working with pazpar2
11:51 Amit_G     chris_n: Any question related to pazpar2
11:51 chris_n    I am having problems with the termlist command not returning anything
11:52 chris_n    even though the search returns some 200 records
11:52 chris_n    and all other commands seem to work as expected
11:53 chris_n    this morning I ran the daemon from the command line and got several warns about the config
11:53 pastebot   "chris_n" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "pazpar2 stdio" (13 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/2
11:54 chris_n    so I wonder if the current configuration files in git need some syntax updating
11:54 jwagner    Morning Amit_G and all
11:54 * chris_n  waves up I95 to jwagner
11:54 Amit_G     chris_n: ok
11:54 chris_n    and jdavidb
11:55 jwagner    I-95 was pretty clogged, according to the traffic reports.  As long as you're waving, maybe you could wave traffic out of the way?
11:55 chris_n    hehe
11:55 jwagner    (Fortunately I don't commute from that side of town.)
11:56 kf         hi jwagner :)
11:56 Amit_G     heya kf
11:56 kf         hi Amit_G
11:56 chris_n    a friend traveled up to Manasses this past weekend and on the return trip said northbound I95 was locked up solid from DC to Richmond
11:57 jwagner    It always is.  And so is I-66 west of town.  I've driven those routes at 2:00 AM and still found stop & go traffic.  Sigh.
11:57 * chris_n  grimaces at the thought of 100 miles of gridlocked traffic
11:57 * jwagner  agrees it ain't no fun :-(
11:57 jdavidb    I've only been on I-66 once, when I moved here.  Driving into town, during rush hour, at the tail end of a 1200 mile trip with two kids and a cat and an overloaded vehicle pulling an overloaded trailer...
11:58 * chris_n  used to get up and leave at 4:30 am to drive from Culpepper to Fairfax to be at work on time at 8
11:59 chris_n    jdavidb: ouch!
11:59 mason      ouch indeed!
11:59 jdavidb    Patrick and jwagner tried to warn me not to do that.  It wasn't *that* bad, just sat still a lot.  I grew up in Dallas traffic:  take that many cars, that close together, and set them all at 70 mph.  *that's* scary.
12:00 * jwagner  still has nightmares about riding with jdavidb on Dallas freeways at Kohacon
12:02 jdavidb    you had it lucky, jwagner; we were in a pickup, up high, so you could see your impending doom.  Imagine that ride in a sports car.
12:02 * jwagner  whimpers
12:04 jwagner    I'd prefer not to see my impending doom, thank you.  Let it sneak up on me....
12:05 * chris_n  quickly looks over his shoulder
12:06 chris_n    heya mason
12:17 jwagner    morning, owen (and Nate, and collum)
12:17 owen       Hi
12:17 collum     Good morning.
12:17 jwagner    Got a question for owen on stylesheets -- can you refresh my memory about how to tell Koha to use an auxiliary stylesheet?
12:17 Nate       mornin jwagner
12:17 Nate       and everyone else in #koha land
12:18 jwagner    I thought you could just plug it into one of the sysprefs, but when I try that the entire OPAC goes very screwy.
12:18 owen       Do you want a complete replacement stylesheet or just some additions?
12:19 owen       opaccolorstylesheet  specifies the file name of a stylesheet on the Koha server which will be applied in addition to the default one
12:19 owen       opacstylesheet  specifies a URL for a complete replacement
12:20 jwagner    Just some additions and some settings to override the default.  I tried using the opaccolorstylesheet syspref with no luck.  The stylesheet lives on a different server, and I entered a full URL, if that makes a difference.
12:20 owen       It does
12:20 owen       The opaccolorstylesheet preference doesn't work with a full URL
12:21 jwagner    Well, that would explain it :-(  Any reason why it can't?  (Codewise, that is?)
12:21 jwagner    Can the code be modified to make it read an external stylesheet?
12:21 owen       I'm not sure how you would set it up so that Koha would know whether you were specifying a local one or a remote one
12:22 jwagner    Hrmmm.  Food for further thought.  In the meantime, I'll stick to making my changes in OPACUserCSS.  At least that works....
12:24 owen       opaccolorstylesheet works fine if you have access to the file on the server, but that's not always the case
12:24 jwagner    But if I'm understanding correctly, I could make a complete copy of opac-css, make my changes, and put _that_ on another server?  Then change opaclayoutstylesheet to point to it?
12:26 jwagner    Sorry, put the complete copy's URL in opacstylesheet instead?
12:29 owen       Yes, with one caveat
12:29 owen       The first two lines of opac.css import two other CSS files: reset-fonts-grids.css and skin.css
12:29 owen       You'll have to change those lines so that they point to full URLs as well
12:30 jwagner    OK, I'll do some experimenting with that.  Thanks!
13:26 kmkale_    @weather
13:26 munin      kmkale_: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
13:26 kmkale_    @weather mumbai
13:26 munin      kmkale_: The current temperature in Mumbai / Santacruz, India is 32.0�C (5:30 PM IST on April 20, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa.
13:29 kf         @wunder
13:29 munin      kf: (wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
13:29 kf         @wunder Konstanz
13:29 munin      kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.8�C (3:25 PM CEST on April 20, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady).
13:30 nengard    can someone remind me how to revert a specific patch?  I need to resubmit one of my patches without a file
13:34 chris_n    nengard: is it your last commit you want to revert?
13:34 nengard    no :(
13:34 chris_n    you can 'git rebase -i HEAD~10' which will allow you to reorder the last 10 commits
13:35 chris_n    then reorder so that the one you want to 'fix' is the last
13:35 nengard    hmm
13:35 nengard    off to give it a whirl
13:35 chris_n    then 'git reset -soft HEAD^' iirc to roll back without resetting the changes
13:35 chris_n    do some foo, and then 'git commit' again
13:36 owen       Interesting tip chris_n, I'll have to remember the '~10' syntax
13:36 nengard    how do i reorder them now?
13:36 chris_n    you should have a list of commits
13:36 nengard    is this just vi?
13:36 chris_n    yes
13:36 nengard    oh - got it
13:37 chris_n    one caveat: sometimes the commits will not apply out of order depending on what sort of foo you have done and in what order you did it
13:38 chris_n    but you can always abort the rebase and try again
13:38 nengard    hmmm - i can't seem to Yank (with Y or yy) the line ...
13:38 chris_n    is it vi or vim?
13:39 nengard    vi i think -- oh and Y works in vim
13:39 nengard    any idea on how to do it in vi
13:39 chris_n    dd
13:39 chris_n    then p or P
13:39 chris_n    depending on after or before
13:40 chris_n    the current line of the cursor
13:40 nengard    thank you!
13:40 nengard    okay so now i do this:  git reset -soft HEAD^
13:41 nengard    and it will revert my last commit
13:41 chris_n    right
13:41 nengard    nengard@debian:~/kohaclone$ git reset -soft HEAD^
13:41 chris_n    afterward you can do 'git status' to verify that you have the uncommitted files
13:41 nengard    error: unknown switch `s'
13:41 chris_n    opps
13:41 chris_n    om
13:41 nengard    hehe
13:42 chris_n    --soft
13:42 nengard    hmmm
13:43 nengard    it appears to have reverted my last commit - not the one i moved -- and now i know why - i put it first not last
13:43 nengard    geeze
13:43 chris_n    so just 'git commit'
13:43 chris_n    and then do the rebase thing over again
13:44 nengard    bingo
13:44 nengard    thanks
13:45 nengard    you rock
13:45 nengard    chris_n++
13:45 chris_n    :)
13:45 * kf       makes a note who to ask about git... :)
13:46 chris_n    if you do a bunch of work, you can also use the interactive rebase to squash many patches into one
13:46 chris_n    so... commit early and often
13:58 chris_n    brb
14:02 nengard    got a database question - how do you know which items in your issues table have been returned?  I'm looking at my data and return and returndate are both set to NULL for all lines
14:02 nengard    or does issues only show items that are still checked out?
14:04 owen       Once things get checked in they're moved to old_issues
14:04 nengard    ah - then it seems silly to have all those return fields in the issues table ... just saying :)
14:04 owen       I think it's a new thing? I'm not sure.
14:06 owen       chris_n: Do you know if it's a recent development that issues are moved to old_issues when items are returned?
14:07 chris_n    owen: I don't
14:11 nengard    at least i know i wrote my query right - that's all i need for now :)
14:14 hilongo    Hello there :)
14:33 nengard    me again - old_issues doesn't have any data in the return or the returndate field either ....
14:33 nengard    do we not track when an item was returned?
14:33 nengard    nevermind!
14:33 nengard    hehe
14:48 chris_n    brb... installing new hardware :-P
14:53 hdl_laptop owen: move to old_issues was in 3.0
14:54 hdl_laptop nengard: it is not that silly. It allows you to have the same data structure between old_issues and current issues. You may want to use UNION for queries.
14:55 hdl_laptop And having different table structure would not allow that.
14:55 nengard    thanks for clarifying hdl
14:55 nengard    didn't think of that
14:56 nengard    I have another question about old_issues
14:56 nengard    i'm seeing a due date of 2009-09-13 and then I'm seeing a return date of 2009-08-22
14:56 nengard    that can't be right ....
14:56 nengard    I'm seeing this on 2 systems
14:57 nengard    also issuedate is 2009-08-23 and the timestamp is  2009-11-24 12:07:00
14:58 nengard    is it possible that the returndate is actually in the timstamp field?
14:58 nengard    nope - further exploration shows that timestamp is usually the check out date
14:59 nengard    ideas?
15:01 wizzyrea   maybe I"m misunderstanding, but the return date was when the item was actually returned, and the due date when it was due?
15:01 wizzyrea   so the patron brought it back early
15:01 wizzyrea   ?
15:01 nengard    wizzyrea .... Oh my goodness .... I'm so out of it!!!
15:01 nengard    you're right!!
15:01 nengard    I'm wrong!!
15:02 nengard    I do have an issuedate that is after the return date though - in a few places
15:02 wizzyrea   renewal maybe?
15:02 nengard    i'm thinking it's the bug i saw recently
15:02 wizzyrea   or that
15:02 kf         perhaps renewal
15:03 nengard    thank you for making me see the light - don't know why i didn't realize that originally
15:03 wizzyrea   :) you're welcome
15:03 wizzyrea   i'm fiddling around with elgg
15:04 nengard    oooooo
15:06 nengard    my only prob with these social networking sites is that i so so so so don't need to belong to another one
15:07 nengard    i did however bookmark a bunch of open source social networks (and other stuff) the other day: http://www.web2learning.net/archives/3734
15:08 wizzyrea   yea, i'm not sure what we would use it for
15:08 wizzyrea   but it's fun to play with
15:08 wizzyrea   elgg.nekls.org
15:17 kf         bye #koha
15:21 * wizzyrea is having and I <3 debian moment
15:21 * chris_n  gets a dns error on that url
15:25 wizzyrea   not surprising, it's spanky new
15:25 wizzyrea   it probably hasn't propagated yet
15:41 wizzyrea   nengard: I think I found your problem, but you'll have to check.
15:41 nengard    nope :( that's not it
15:42 wizzyrea   boo
15:43 nengard    that was my first thought
15:43 nengard    and i already tried that
15:43 nengard    that's why i think it's the css not the files/images
15:54 owen       nengard: Try changing #nav .page_item a {}
15:54 owen       Change "padding:12px 12px 6px 12px;" to "padding:12px 12px 3px 12px;"
15:55 owen       I think you also want to change #search { top: 90px } to top: 84px;
15:56 owen       ...but I've only tried those changes via Firebug in Firefox, so double check
15:56 nengard    WOO HOO - you fixed on issue - the dark blue line - but not the orange
15:58 wizzyrea   the orange is in the graphic, is it an alignment thing with the slide effect?
15:58 owen       Are you sure nengard? Looks fixed to me now
15:59 wizzyrea   oh, for me too, actually
15:59 nengard    hmmm
15:59 nengard    on FF in Mac it still has orange at the bottom
15:59 wizzyrea   < also on ff/mac
15:59 wizzyrea   no line
15:59 nengard    hmmm
15:59 owen       Even after shift+reload nengard?
15:59 nengard    yes - but i'll restart
15:59 * wizzyrea was going to suggest that
16:01 nengard    also not right in mac/safari
16:01 nengard    reloading FF now
16:01 nengard    it is okay in IE6 - but there are other issues
16:01 nengard    cause it's IE6 :)
16:01 owen       Looks fine in IE8 FWIW
16:02 nengard    still not okay in FF/mac .... hmmmmm strange
16:02 nengard    wizzyrea can you send me a screenshot of what you see
16:03 wizzyrea   ya sec
16:03 wizzyrea   http://screencast.com/t/MjdhYTg4M
16:04 owen       Interesting...I don't see that white line under the tabs
16:04 nengard    ah - that's not what i see - but that's not right either - the tab should be on the blue line - no white line
16:04 wizzyrea   safari: http://screencast.com/t/ODc2ZjI4
16:04 nengard    why the heck can't all computers follow the samn damn standards!!!
16:04 wizzyrea   lulz
16:04 nengard    safari is closer
16:05 wizzyrea   I thought the line was intentional >.>
16:05 wizzyrea   white line
16:05 wizzyrea   it certainly doesn't look bad, imo
16:09 owen       http://www.screencast.com/users/oleonard/folders/Jing/media/0ced4331-c799-4da2-882b-cc3023f4a9a7
16:09 owen       FF3.6/Win7
16:10 wizzyrea   well truthfully, that's not what I see, but what I do see isn't insulting to my eyes.
16:10 wizzyrea   mines ff3.6.3/snow leopard
16:11 wizzyrea   one version back safari... I could check chrome/osx too
16:17 nengard    owen that's it
16:17 nengard    that's what we're supposed to seee
16:17 nengard    hmmm
17:15 cait       hi #koha
17:20 chris_n    hello cait
19:31 chris      morning
19:31 owen       Hi chris
19:32 jwagner    morning chris
19:33 gmcharlt   hi chris
19:47 owen       Gah, these statistics are driving me up the wall!
19:49 chris      bus time, ill give you a hand later, when i get to work, if you are still around owen
20:31 richard    hi
20:40 wizzyrea   hey richard, larsw
20:40 larsw      good morning
20:47 chris      back
21:23 * chris_n  is glad his irc client is up on its vaccinations :)
21:26 chobbs     Just realized my items.onloan are filled with '0000-00-00' for items not currently issued. Am I right in assuming I should change those all to NULL? It seems to fix my all items checked out problem.
21:27 chris      yep
21:27 chris      also, file a bug
21:28 chobbs     May well be my import file that causecd it :)
21:28 chris      yeah but the import should set 0000-00-00 to be NULL
21:28 chobbs     Ahhh. Will do.
21:28 chilts     I'm sure I thought once that MySQL treated 0000-00-00 _as_ null
21:29 chilts     but I'm probably wrong
21:29 chris      naw, it hands that back as that to the code
21:29 chilts     gotta love MySQL
21:29 chris      heh
21:30 chobbs     Yay, my opac looks so much happier now :)
21:35 chobbs     Hmm. Is katipo's DNS having trouble again? Can't get to koha-community.org...
21:35 chobbs     ne'er mind
21:36 si         hey, that reminds me
21:36 * si       goes off to fix that
21:39 chris      :)
21:49 chris_n    wb si
21:51 chobbs     Hooray, my first bug submission :) bug 4392
21:51 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4392 major, P4, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, bulkmarcimport.pl leaves items.onloan set to '0000-00-00' instead of NULL
21:51 chris      :)
21:52 chris_n    chobbs++