Time  Nick           Message
23:03 munin          chris_n: Amit was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 10 hours, 49 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <Amit> heya kf, gmcharlt
23:03 chris_n        @seen Amit
23:00 brendan        larsw++
22:59 chris_n        but perfect code = no job ;)
22:58 larsw          (I'll say anything to get people to test it ;-)
22:58 eythian        larsw: until build ~catalyst2 ?
22:57 * larsw        declares the Debian packaging for koha to be Perfect, Beautiful, and Timeless, with no changes ever needed again, forever, after the latest patch he sent
22:51 JeremyHumboldt thanks, later...
22:51 JeremyHumboldt jeremyHumboldt to chris -- Good idea, I'll check.
22:46 chris          hi brendan
22:45 brendan        afternoon all
22:32 larsw          chris, ack, I'll make the package remove /var/log/koha
22:28 chris          JeremyHumboldt: not me, does bluehost.com let you install modules from cpan?
22:28 chris          i think removed
22:27 larsw          in other words, if you uninstall koha, would you want the logs to be removed too, or might they have useful information that you want to keep?
22:26 larsw          I am wondering if I should make the Debian packaging for Koha remove everything in /var/log/koha/ when the package is purged from the system
22:26 larsw          koha produces some log files... are they important for anything except debugging problem situations?
22:24 JeremyHumboldt Has anyone installed the latest production koha on bluehost.com?
20:48 richard        hi chris
20:48 chris          hiya richard
20:47 richard        hi
20:38 chris          back
19:57 chris          bus time
19:38 chris_n        nice
19:36 chris          koha_3.2.git20100419223812.1d56af6c-1_all.deb
19:36 chris_n        heya brendan
19:35 brendan        morning chris
19:35 chris          how cool is this
19:28 chris          hi chris_n
19:24 chris_n        g'morning chris
19:20 cait           morning chris and good night #koha
19:18 chris          morning
18:53 chobbs         Looks like somebody got DNS squared away again!
18:45 chobbs         Example: http://koha.nhusd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=html&limit=branch%3AES
18:41 wajasu         chris_n: i agree
18:41 chobbs         Here's one I thought I'd solved once before, but I've re-imported records since. All items show "No copies available" in opac-search.pl, but opac-detail.pl shows items correctly. Staff client shows correctly as well. Any ideas?
18:39 wizzyrea       you're welcome :)
18:38 chobbs         wizzyrea:  thanks for IP
18:38 * chris_n      thinks reverting to a pictorial rather than an alphabetic/phonetic language would fix many communication problems :)
18:30 wajasu         this has been the function of programmers, but the tools/engines need to be shared, in an ESB on the internet.  Of course, who does one trust to be their provider.  Today it google, etc.
18:28 wajasu         the deal is language (words change meaning over time) and the solution must account for that.  concepts must be described, and the subjects/words we bind to the concepts must do so accordingly.
18:23 wajasu         not enough, but the solutions needs to be outside of google, as it must pass away as well.
18:22 gmcharlt       have you done much reading about RDF?
18:22 gmcharlt       it's a long road to get there, with potential pitfalls such as Google ending up with a monopoly on everything
18:21 gmcharlt       wajasu: no, it's fine
18:20 wajasu         sorry for the rant. maybe not applicable to this channel.
18:20 wajasu         what if a generic service like DNS but for identifiers/vocabularies is made available by the few experts, and the rest of us bind accordingly to those to drive our solutions.
18:19 wajasu         i keep hitting projects where identifier vocabulary need to be downloadable on demand, and drive the underlying application.  But thats a hard problem.  Every agency/org/industry wants to control their industry and say they determine those identfiers.
18:16 wajasu         i think projects like this will encapsulate and bypass the existing institutions (even LOC).  just build it and they will come.
18:14 wajasu         its funny, because the computer IT world build the infrastructure to allow businesses to classify information, using metadata repos, and its a tough problem with politics as well.  fold in UNIONS and other self interests and roadblocks abound.
18:11 wajasu         i listened to that library gang site audio.  now I understand the struggles of the library community more.
18:02 brendan        biblibre++
18:02 brendan        sounds pretty cool http://koha-community.org/koha-newsletter-volume-1issue-4-april-2010/#newfeatures
18:01 * chris_n      just needs time to polish it up and submit it :-(
18:01 chris_n        wajasu: I have code that can generate the perl dep list
17:59 gmcharlt       wajasu: good idea
17:58 wajasu         making a package for a dist is an art (dependency problem).  but I am waiting for your 3.2 release to put it in the archlinux AUR source build repo.  It would be nice to have a makefile.PL option to spit out the perl dependency list with the >= version numbers so I can use that to drive my script to grab the perl modules from CPAN.  Right now I have to inspect and diff that long list.
17:58 wizzyrea       it's all true: you can't control your users. :(
17:56 wizzyrea       boo
17:56 * chris_n      notes that many people don't even read the INSTALL.flavor files before asking for them
17:56 nengard        can someone please come tell the man next door to stop with the chain saw - my head hurts and he's not helping :(
17:54 gmcharlt       wajasu: the difference is that you knew enough about the platform to do that - sometimes we gets questions like "why isn't there a README for my obscure distro? GIVE IT TO ME NOW!" or "why did this deviation from the instructions that I made without understanding cause something to break?"
17:52 wajasu         20 minutes as opposed to a couple of hours.
17:52 wajasu         i made an archlinux pacman PKGBUILD that builds and archlinux koha-mysql-zebra-3.3_alpha.tar.pkg.gz from source, and chooses mysql,zebra,dom, and has perl deps from the makefile.  but i had to write a script to pull and build all the perl deps and make perl-<MODULE> archlinux packages as well.
17:49 wizzyrea       apt-get install koha would rule.
17:49 wizzyrea       i'm not doggin on it. Really, I'm not. There's always room for improvement
17:48 gmcharlt       I realize that isn't a substitue for true usabilty, but still ...
17:48 wizzyrea       true!
17:48 gmcharlt       although remarkably functional if one follows the instructions precisely
17:48 wizzyrea       it's only admin friendly, and sometimes not even that.
17:47 wizzyrea       (of COURSE the install process isn't user friendly. Sheesh.)
17:47 wizzyrea       cool, will tell him that
17:47 gmcharlt       certainly much more forward progress on it
17:46 wizzyrea       we have a deb pkg coming soon though, right?
17:46 wizzyrea       oh, angry twitterboy was mad about the install being hard.
17:39 owen           My comment at 13:05
17:37 * chris_n      wonders what db wizzyrea is referring to
17:34 cait           :)
17:34 wizzyrea       I could go on.
17:34 wizzyrea       s
17:34 wizzyrea       and exceptions to the exception
17:34 wizzyrea       yea, it's a big database, with millions and millions of exceptions.
17:31 cait           no, laptop could get angry with me...
17:30 chris_n        cait: lol... why not 'while (1){print'windows--\n';}'
17:29 cait           windows-- #again...
17:28 nengard        it's already in 3.2 and works great!
17:28 nengard        http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=c7676#AEN7771
17:28 nengard        http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=c6726#AEN6845
17:27 nengard        schuster yes
17:19 schuster       another question - I thought there was some discussion that 3.2 would have a merge bib feature?
17:06 SJeffery       Heh, true. Unfortunately I can't send a reply of *facepalm*
17:05 owen           SJeffery: On the other hand, that's what the original developers of Koha said too :) "It's just a big database, right?"
17:05 owen           Down this dark road many an unwary traveler has passed
17:04 SJeffery       Our IT department came back with "hey, it is just checkin and checkout functions, why can't we just code the application"
17:04 owen           Timely!
17:03 SJeffery       hah, fantastic
17:03 chris_n        http://koha-community.org/koha-project-stats/
17:03 SJeffery       Does anyone have a rough idea of the number of lines of code in Koha?
17:03 chris_n        windows-- # /me jumps on the band-wagon
17:00 munin          cait1: Karma for "windows" has been increased 0 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of -2.
17:00 cait1          @karma windows
17:00 munin          cait1: windoes has neutral karma.
17:00 cait1          @karma windoes
16:59 cait1          windows--
16:52 munin          cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.3�C (6:50 PM CEST on April 19, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady).
16:52 cait           @wunder konstanz
16:52 cait           morning brendan
16:52 munin          brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 13.9�C (9:30 AM PDT on April 19, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Rising).
16:52 brendan        @wunder 93117
16:52 brendan        morning
16:50 cait           :)
16:43 jdavidb        hi, cait. :)
16:39 cait           hi #koha
16:33 nengard        under the Circulation menu
16:32 nengard        K - no prob, I'm sure a US library can help
16:32 chris_n        nengard: I have data with some overdues... om
16:31 hdl_laptop     But might be our only customer
16:31 hdl_laptop     SAN does.
16:31 hdl_laptop     nengard: I fear we donot often use fines in France.
16:30 chris_n        hehe
16:30 owen           It's gonna be a long day
16:29 CGI616         hello
16:28 owen           Yes we can see what you're typing CGI616
16:27 CGI616         rylfh
16:27 CGI616         op{
16:27 CGI616         op´
16:22 CGI484         mmm
16:22 CGI484         hola
16:21 CGI484         alguien que me pueda ayudar con el Koha?
16:21 owen           Hi CGI484
16:20 CGI484         hola
16:17 nengard        can someone send me a screenshot of the overdues with fines report with data on it?  I don't have any data in my system, but need a screenshot for the manual
16:12 chris_n        owen: sounds like that might work
16:10 owen           "OR statistics.itemnumber = deleteditems.itemnumber" ?
16:10 owen           What would be the best way to pull in data from deleteditems?
16:09 chris_n        humm.... "Extremely not user-friendly..." not Koha.... but perhaps Zebra :)
16:09 owen           So... If you want to get statistics by collection code, and you pull data from the statistics table by saying "where statistics.itemnumber = items.itemnumber," you won't be able to count circs of items which have since been deleted.
16:04 wizzyrea       I'll bite :P
16:03 wizzyrea       maybe it's just his online persona. Couldn't hurt to find out what he thinks I guess.
16:02 nengard        HA - that's why i didn't bother answering him
15:59 wizzyrea       that guy, if you look at his tweets, he's an extreme pessimist, lol
15:57 owen           It might be neat to use elgg as an organization-specific social network, let your staff create a new way to share info
15:57 wizzyrea       wonder what he saw
15:54 nengard        hmmmm - http://twitter.com/dougoftheabaci/statuses/12460072821
15:53 * jdavidb      would have fun with elgg...create a meta-social-network, where you relink things from all your others...or start a 12-step group for social-networking addicts...
15:38 wizzyrea       not that the world needs more social networks really, but wowie could you make one hell of a sopac with that.
15:37 * gmcharlt     ponders the applications of renice(1)
15:37 wizzyrea       elgg.org
15:36 wizzyrea       has anybody looked at elgg?
15:35 wizzyrea       which the more I think about it, is funny on multiple levels. *sigh* I'm in a strange mood today
15:35 chris_n        lol :)
15:34 wizzyrea       man, now I have this urge to see whether there is a unix daemon 'niced'
15:34 chris_n        nice even
15:33 chris_n        niced
15:27 wizzyrea       (not my idea)
15:26 wizzyrea       oh this is a cool post, good idea: http://koha-community.org/koha-project-stats/
15:22 wizzyrea       of course they're not
15:22 owen           I think the people who are actively managing those responsibilities aren't the ones allowed to make that decision
15:20 wizzyrea       brb
15:20 wizzyrea       especially with so many capable people ready to help
15:19 wizzyrea       one would think, with all the other crap they have to deal with now, LL would be so excited to offload their community responsibilities
15:17 wizzyrea       :)
15:17 wizzyrea       yep
15:17 nengard        the manual?
15:17 nengard        is that what you were talking about me for?
15:16 wizzyrea       paul_p: we'll get it in due time I"m sure. :)
15:16 chris_n        lol
15:16 nengard        it's monday
15:16 nengard        oops - i meant chris_n -- not talking to myself :) hehe
15:16 nengard        nengard - the 3.0 manual is the sole work of ME - but it's copyrighted by LL
15:15 chris_n        nengard: is the 3.0 manual the sole work of LL?
15:15 owen           nengard's ears were burning?
15:15 * chris_n      wonders if nengard knew we were just mentioning her?
15:15 chris_n        snap
15:14 * owen         can't remember if others contributed
15:14 owen           chris_n: It may have been the sole work of nengard while she was there, she would be the one to ask
15:13 paul_p         (so the server is live only for koha mailing lists)
15:13 chris_n        so the 3.0 manual was the sole work of LL then?
15:13 paul_p         wizzyrea, about the mailing lists : we are willing & ready to move to koha-community.org (we changed our server, and asked LL for a DNS move, but of course had no answer)
15:08 owen           See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_lawsuit_against_public_participation
15:08 wizzyrea       owen++ for succinctly stating my position
15:07 owen           The general rule of thumb: If it was possible for LL to be a dick about something, we planned for that contingency
15:07 * wizzyrea     is not an expert in these things
15:06 wizzyrea       though the entire site says distributed under GNU GPL
15:06 wizzyrea       at least not the online version
15:06 wizzyrea       and it doesn't have the license attached to it like the 3.2 manual does
15:06 wizzyrea       ^^
15:05 owen           nengard worked on it when she was a LibLime employee, therefore LL copyright
15:05 wizzyrea       lemme check
15:05 wizzyrea       I am not sure, when we set up the site I wasn't really interested in tempting the lawsuit gods by copying it over.
15:03 chris_n        so it was not released under any sort of license?
15:03 wizzyrea       ^^ what he said
15:03 owen           Boo. :P
15:03 wizzyrea       yes, LL copyright.
15:03 chris_n        is there anything hindering us from having a copy of the koha 3.0 manual on the new site rather than pointing back to the old site?
15:02 wizzyrea       will fix language caps tho
15:02 wizzyrea       ;)
15:02 wizzyrea       well, with minor revisions
15:02 * wizzyrea     copied all of the text from the old Koha site
15:02 * chris_n      likes the latest messages as well
15:01 gmcharlt       s/german/German/, etc.
15:00 gmcharlt       s/spanish/Spanish/
15:00 gmcharlt       but you should probably do the same for the French and Spanish ones, and any other language-specific main users lists that crop up
14:59 wizzyrea       Ah, yes, good point
14:59 * owen         too!
14:58 gmcharlt       I like the insertion of the latest messages from the main mailing list
14:57 gmcharlt       wizzyrea: if you're citing whose hosting it, Katipo should get credit for hosting the main one
14:56 wizzyrea       http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ cool? sucky?
14:53 kf             ok, time to leave - bye #koha
14:36 kf             I use virtual box - so its easy to try :)
14:33 chris_n        kf: you probably could do: 'perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log' and then do 'make && make install' rather than upgrade and get it done over-top of your present install if you wanted that
14:31 chris_n        kf: a reinstall with pazpar2 would be the easier route
14:19 kf             chris_n: thx :)
14:17 kf             chris_n: not sure I will get the VARS right, perhaps reinstall koha with pazpar2 first... hm.
14:14 chris_n        kf: the last two commits here are the ones: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ashs
14:11 chris_n        and I added archive.org to my config
14:11 chris_n        chris has it setup to search project gutenberg
14:09 chris_n        I don't think you can get away with just rerunning rewrite-config.PL as I think it relies upon env vars exported by makefile
14:07 kf             uh
14:06 chris_n        you have to sub out all of the __VARS__ by hand in the config files
14:06 kf             pulling patches - sounds difficult for me :) but perhaps there will be some time this week to play
14:06 chris_n        the pazpar2 setup is not straight forward if you did not select it during Makefile.PL
14:04 chris_n        kf: I just pulled two patches from chris's repo, setup pazpar2, and things work for testing purposes
14:03 chris_n        I don't know about the LL thing. I'm more interested in the ability to search other resources and group the results
14:03 kf             chris_n: would like to see how it works. is configurtion difficult?
14:00 owen           I remembered that LibLime has worked on the federated search a long time ago and then dropped it, so I wasn't aware it was functional
13:59 owen           I'm not psychic, I saw in the log that you were messing with pazpar2
13:57 chris_n        the grouped version of the template differs quite dramatically from the other, so I thought I might mess with it a bit and try to bring it more into sync
13:56 chris_n        owen: I am messing with the pazpar2 stuff that chris has been doing
13:54 * chris_n      wonders if owen is psychic :)
13:54 owen           I haven't touched opac-results-grouped in a long time because I wasn't aware it was working
13:54 chris_n        yes, and comparing it to opac-results.tmpl
13:53 owen           chris_n: You're working with opac-results-grouped now aren't you?
13:52 chris_n        ie. opac-results*.tmpl files
13:52 chris_n        only "near"
13:50 owen           Total lack?
13:49 * chris_n      grumbles about the near total lack of indentation in the template files
13:48 schuster       Margarita...
13:48 owen           I thought down south it was always mint juleps
13:48 jwagner        Is that the stuff they advertise as Mike's Hard Lemonade?
13:47 schuster       Oh but it was goood lemonade.
13:46 jwagner        HAH!  I _knew_ you weren't all sipping lemonade!
13:45 schuster       Don't be fooled...  we are not all work...  Librarians let down their hair at a conference...  Just ask the hotel and restaurant operators from San Antonio last week.
13:42 * owen         has got to get himself to one of these librarian meetings some day.
13:40 schuster       owen - there was a second life presentation...  I did't attend it - not something I'm overly interested in, but there was a LOT of great content at the conference and I found myself often having to choose between 2 things.
13:40 schuster       I just started to read the latest newsletter!!  WOW what a great list of articles and features for hopefully 3.2 - especially the did you mean.  I sure hope that makes it in!
13:39 owen           Probably social media or Second Life
13:39 owen           She presented, but I'm not sure what
13:38 schuster       did she present or a vendor?
13:37 schuster       her and about 7,996 other of your closest librarian friends from Texas ;)
13:37 owen           schuster: One of my Ohio colleagues was at TLA I think... Laura Solomon
13:33 schuster       Hey!  Back from TLA - now to catch up on everything I didn't get done while at a conference...  And planning for ALA, and dreaming of 3.2 release!
13:33 owen           Good morning schuster
13:27 bigbrovar__    thanks chris_n I finally followed your advise about creating a 956 item and it fixed the problem. search now works again :)
13:13 kf             bigbrovar__: I never mixed bulkmarcimport and staged imports
13:12 kf             bigbrovar__: hm I dont know, have you staged those records before using -d?
13:12 bigbrovar__    when i click the "import into catalog" button the browser just doesnt respond and progress stays at 0%
13:11 gmcharlt       hi chris_n
13:11 chris_n        good morning #koha
13:11 bigbrovar__    kf: is there anything i need to do after using the  bulkmarcimport script -d because after deleting all biblio records, i cant seem to import new  staged records  to my koha database
12:58 munin          jdavidb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 8.9�C (8:58 AM EDT on April 19, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Steady).
12:58 jdavidb        @wunder 20817
12:57 kf             mistake in configuration :( have to restart my fines&notices test cases *sigh*
12:44 munin          kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.0�C (2:40 PM CEST on April 19, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Falling).
12:44 kf             @wunder konstanz
12:44 kf             oh
12:44 munin          kf: konstanz has neutral karma.
12:44 kf             @karma konstanz
12:42 jwagner        Well, that's better.  munin needs to deal with split personalities, though.
12:42 kf             perhaps people are confused :)
12:42 owen           Hi all
12:42 owen           The trouble with multiple nicks
12:42 munin          kf: Karma for "cait" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5.
12:42 kf             @karma cait
12:41 jdavidb        only nine?    gosh.    Someone's been stingy at giving you good karma, kf.
12:40 kf             growing slowly :)
12:40 munin          jdavidb: Karma for "kf" has been increased 9 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 9.
12:40 jdavidb        @karma kf
12:39 jdavidb        My evil minion made easy-peasy peanut butter cookies last night.  Many of them have already disappeared.
12:38 kf             must share them before I eat them all
12:38 kf             :)
12:37 bigbrovar__    kf: thanks i figured it out
12:37 jwagner        Mmmmmmmmmm
12:36 jdavidb        kf++
12:35 * kf           shares her first self baked brownies
12:35 kf             bigbrovar__ I think there is a delete (-d?) option for bulkmarcimport script
12:32 jwagner        Bonjour
12:32 hdl_laptop     hi
12:32 hdl_laptop     salut
12:22 * jwagner      hides under my desk for the morning....
12:22 * jdavidb      pours it in with the IV of diet cola, and mainlines it.
12:21 * gmcharlt     hands jdavidb a cup of coffee
12:21 jdavidb        Mmmmph.
12:11 gmcharlt       good morning
12:06 bigbrovar__    is there a way i cna delete all my bilblio records on koha
11:56 bigbrovar__    .
11:56 collum         good morning, all
11:53 Amit_G         heya kf, jwagner
11:52 kf             good morning jwagner, collum and Amit_G
11:51 jwagner        Good morning, all
11:45 collum         Good morning Amit_G
11:27 Amit_G         heya nengard, collum
09:15 bigbrovar_     thanks chris i would look into that
09:13 bigbrovar_     how can i add imported catalog from spreadsheet using this guide http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=openoffice_excel_delimited_text_to_koha_using_marcedit
09:12 chris          early start chris_n` ?
09:09 chris          if so, then that is the problem, you have no items
09:09 chris          try adding an item to one of those records, then reindex and search on it, and see if it now shows up
09:08 chris          it is stored in 952
09:08 chris          when you import you usually import the item data too
09:05 bigbrovar_     it seems importing catalogs to koha is not enough, i have to define them as items.?
09:04 bigbrovar_     chris: it says no items available ..
09:02 chris          how many copies of the introduction to philosophy do you have, ie how many items are attached to that record, you can see that in the librarian interface in the search results, it will say 2 items available etc
09:01 chris          the librarian can see biblio records that have no items, but the opac often doesnt show them, so you dont show the public records you dont have any copies of
08:59 chris          items or biblios show up?
08:59 bigbrovar_     chris: ok so even if i can search from localhost:8080 and items shows up when i search. it might now work on opac?
08:58 chris          because often the opac wont show results if the biblio has no items attached
08:56 bigbrovar_     how to i set the value to 0?
08:56 bigbrovar_     yeah i imported some items from spreadsheet using marcedit and that seems to have gone fine
08:53 chris          your biblio records have items eh?
08:52 chris          i suspect that off is not actually turning it off (or its putting off as the value instead of 0)
08:52 chris          you only need to reindex if you set up a suppress index which you havent done
08:51 chris          no need to reindex
08:51 chris          make sure the value for it is set to 0
08:51 chris          ok check it in the db
08:50 bigbrovar_     I turned it on again and reindex zebra still no show, searching doesnt work.. and i still get a "No results match your search for “kw,wrdl: An Introduction to Philosophy"
08:50 chris          if that doesnt work, check the value in the db, and make sure its set to 0
08:48 chris          try switching it to on then
08:48 bigbrovar_     chris: the options are on of off and its already set to off
08:47 chris          and then try your search on the opac again
08:47 chris          set it to don't hide
08:47 chris          yes
08:47 bigbrovar_     chris: it should be under cataloging ?
08:45 chris          go to systempreferences
08:45 chris          you want to disable t
08:45 bigbrovar_     chris: like most of my googling is saying i need to do something about opacsuppresion
08:44 bigbrovar_     chris: how do i enable opacsuppresion cus that is popping up alot
08:44 bigbrovar_     chris: I just did a search now and it worked!..
08:44 chris          yeah in that case its probaby just the opacsuppresion
08:43 bigbrovar_     chris: omg it does work from the liberian side
08:40 bigbrovar_     chris: ok let me check
08:39 chris          or does it not work on both
08:39 chris          but it works on the librarian side?
08:39 kf             bigbrovar: have you checked zebrasrv is running?
08:38 bigbrovar_     because when i try to search using the the koha public link http://library.mylibrary.com (which is an intranet site) I cant get search to work.
08:34 chris          then try a search and make see what hits zebra
08:34 chris          zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
08:33 chris          then run it by hand as the koha user
08:33 chris          one thing you can try, is stop the zebrasrv with the init.d script
08:31 chris          and when you search, in both the opac, and the intranet sites, you get no results?
08:30 chris          that looks good
08:27 bigbrovar      chris: this is the logs from the  rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -v http://pastebin.com/EuFk84zs  and this is the output of the ps axf | grep "zebrasrv" http://pastebin.com/11A3qUN0
08:24 chris          those wont be to do with the search, so you are sure zebrasrv is running, and you saw all the records get indexed when you ran rebuild_zebra?
08:23 bigbrovar      chris: I followed the one in the tarball and i ran into some perl deps issues
08:22 chris          ps axf | grep "zebrasrv"
08:22 chris          also are you sure zerbrasrv is running?
08:22 chris          and try it without the -w
08:21 chris          bigbrovar: id follow the guide in the tarball, not the wiki
08:21 chris          also you need to make sure your zebrarsrv is running
08:21 bigbrovar      I followed everything here http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=koha_3_install_guide_ubuntu_hardy#indexing_using_zebra
08:21 chris          rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -v
08:20 chris          when you try to run rebuild_zebra.pl do it with -v for verbose so you can see what happens
08:20 chris          that error is just a warn, not an error, can be ignored
08:16 chris          specifically the ones around setting up zebra and zebra indexing
08:16 chris          you should make sure you followed all the steps in INSTALL.ubuntu
08:14 bigbrovar      I am using koha 3.0.5 on Ubuntu 8.04 I used the following installation guide http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=koha_3_install_guide_ubuntu_hardy
08:13 bigbrovar      Hi guys I setup a koha instance for the library of the school where i work. I was able to import their spreadsheet based catalog into koha using marcedit. However I have not been able to get search to work.. when i try to search the follow error shows up in the error.log http://pastebin.com/854XAkyF same thing happens when i run rebuild_zebra.pl
08:01 kf             hi chris
07:59 chris          hi all
07:57 kf             hi magnus and hdl_laptop
07:56 hdl_laptop     hi all
07:54 magnus         g'day #koha
07:28 imp            heyho :)
07:27 kf             good morning #koha
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06:54 Amit_G         heya Ropuch
06:54 Ropuch^_       Morning #koha
06:54 alex_a         hi Amit_G
06:54 Amit_G         hi alex_a
04:20 chris          to update the history
04:20 chris          yep you did, i sent a patch
04:19 Amit_G         heya chris i think i become 110th committer on koha
04:13 genji1         ya.. i have koha here phrasing arabic from utf8 to \x just fine.... but don't know how its done yet.
03:57 chris          cos they have it working fine
03:57 chris          you should ask them how they did it
03:55 genji1         but, the Search.pm routines need it in \x format.
03:55 chris          http://koha-community.org/arabic-koha/  have you seen this?
03:55 chris          why do you want to do that then?
03:55 genji1         oh, im using zebra...
03:55 nod            genji1: so you want some perl to do that?
03:54 chris          thats because you arent using zebra eh?
03:54 genji1         hmm... im wanting to sidestep buildquery, to go from arabic to \x codes...
03:53 nod            it will show you the decimal  hex and octal values
03:52 nod            genji1: if you have vim you can move the cursour over the utf8 char and type 'ga'
03:41 genji1         hiya. you know how to get utf8 strings to strings like \xa4?
03:41 Amit_G         hi genji1, chris
03:40 Amit_G         genji1
03:24 genji1         ?
03:24 genji1         Hello Amit/
03:04 genji1         specifically... i have a question about utf8 conversion.... how to go from utf8 to something like \xa7
03:03 genji1         anyone here?
00:26 chris_n        larsw++