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23:35 munin braedon|home: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 16.0ï¿½C (11:00 AM NZST on April 17, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
23:35 braedon|home @wunder auckland
22:54 munin brendan: The current temperature in North Mission (Valencia & Market), San Francisco, California is 20.0ï¿½C (3:43 PM PDT on April 16, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 5.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady).
22:54 brendan @wunder San Francisco, CA
22:54 munin brendan: Error: No such location could be found.
22:54 brendan @wunder San Fransico
18:16 CGI777 hello?
18:05 jwagner I'm not. But some of my best friends are librarians :-) and I sometimes have a too-vivid imagination.
18:02 * chris_n did not realize jwagner was a librarian :)
17:42 jwagner Thank you, chris_n for that image. It will haunt me for days.....
17:41 * chris_n has had too much Java today :-P
17:41 chris_n sorry... Empire State Building
17:41 * chris_n tries to imagine KOHAKONG climbing the World Trade Center with a librarian held firmly in its grasp
17:40 munin jwagner: Quote #49: "wizzyrea: KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's" (added by chris_n at 11:20 AM, December 22, 2009)
17:40 jwagner @quote random
17:40 jwagner awfully quiet around here....
16:19 nengard sending
16:19 wizzyrea yea, i can take a look
16:18 nengard wizzyrea can i email you an image - it's a virtualbox issue - not sure if you're the one that uses it there
16:14 wizzyrea I"m here, sup
16:12 nengard wizzyrea or owen around?
16:12 jwagner Yes, there is that little matter :-(
16:12 slef Technically, I can record them to memory stick from my TV. Of course, it's almost never legal to distribute them.
16:10 jwagner Not sure about the "making of" shows -- I think they may run at odd hours. I've lost track of the airtimes now.
16:10 jwagner Haven't seen those yet -- we always lag behind a bit. Although a friend of mine finds them on the Internet practically as soon as they run.
16:10 slef Do you get the "making of" shows over there?
16:10 slef There are still quite a lot of rubber monsters... the Ood, the Sontarans,...
16:09 slef jwagner: we're into Matt Smith now.
15:45 wizzyrea ^^ true
15:42 jwagner But you know, Doctor Who just isn't the same any more. Where are all the cheesy fake aliens/monsters in the rubber suits? All this CGI business is bad for the imagination :-)
15:41 jwagner Diff'rent strokes :-)
15:40 wizzyrea (he reminds me of a very good friend, so that helps)
15:40 wizzyrea but I looove tennant. :P
15:39 wizzyrea oh man I can't get into eccleston. every other thing I've watched with him in it he's been a bad guy, and I can't get over it.
15:38 jwagner I just can't really get into the David Tennant episodes. I go back a long way with the good Doctor (Tom Baker being my "first" Doctor). I was happy with the Christopher Eccleston revival, but something about Tennant rubs me the wrong way.
15:26 * wizzyrea gets creeped out and hides under the covers
15:25 wizzyrea the creepiest part being "Donna Noble is not here. Donna Noble has been saved (repeat ad infinitum)"
15:25 wizzyrea the tennant one
15:25 wizzyrea Ya, that one
15:22 slef wizzyrea: do you mean the Silence in the Library of the David Tennant ones, or some earlier episode?
15:16 wizzyrea they seemed quite helpful. :P
15:16 wizzyrea oh, by creepy I meant the show was creepy, not the robotic library help
15:04 * cait waves back at jdavidb
15:03 * jdavidb waves at cait :)
14:45 jdavidb Given some people's love for treating persons-not-like-me badly in this country, they'd be the ones to squeak that they *shouldn't* be too human-appearing. And they'd still be rude to them, even then.
14:44 jdavidb heh.
14:43 wizzyrea (which, btw, was the creepiest thing I've seen in a while. yet still funny.)
14:43 * wizzyrea assumes gmcharlt did
14:42 wizzyrea seriously
14:42 wizzyrea it had those
14:42 wizzyrea did any of you see the Dr. Who episode called The Library?
14:40 jdavidb you'd need some sort of knowledge engine on the front, to handle simple reference-interview things: "Yes, I'm looking for books about <foo>" (Algorithmically, that's an easy one: subject-search <foo>, get call num range, then direct the patron.
14:36 jdavidb rhcl++ #for his creepy but awesome idea.
14:36 rhcl Can't you see a roaming humanoid with a wireless connection to Koha roaming a library offering to help patrons find stuff?
14:34 rhcl still, sign me up for two. No, no, make it three. After a bit of acclimation you'd get past the creepy part. The whole issue of anthropomorphizing is really where tech is heading I think.
14:34 wizzyrea I know koha looks pretty on mobiles already, for the most part, but this is interesting.
14:34 wizzyrea http://www.iii.com/products/airpac.shtml
14:32 jdavidb ooo...that's *creepy*.
14:29 rhcl http://www.fastcompany.com/1607031/android-robots-human-robotics-gynoid-augmented-reality-augmented-humans-science
14:29 rhcl rhcl directs rhcl to Geminoid
14:26 * jdavidb directs rhcl to Lucy: http://www.ai-buddy.com/aib.php?u=lucy&width=600&height=250
14:25 rhcl Chatting with a stupid bot is much more pleasant than chats with my ex- were.
14:25 rhcl see, stupid munin. there it is.
14:24 munin rhcl: The current temperature in Bangkok (Suvarnabhumi), Thailand is 30.0ï¿½C (9:00 PM ICT on April 16, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 23.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
14:24 rhcl @wunder pattaya, thailand
14:24 munin rhcl: Error: "munin" is not a valid command.
14:24 rhcl @munin there is no error. munin is stupid.
14:24 munin rhcl: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
14:24 rhcl @wunder bangkok, thailand
14:05 munin collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is 22.7ï¿½C (10:00 AM EDT on April 16, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 9.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Falling).
14:05 collum @wunder 41011
14:05 nicomo indeed
14:04 jdavidb It is. A bit warmer than usual, from what I hear, but it makes waiting for a bus much more pleasant.
14:03 nicomo 25Â°C in april, that's nice
14:02 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0ï¿½C (3:50 PM CEST on April 16, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -5.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -6.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
14:02 magnus @wunder bodo, norway
14:01 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 25.9ï¿½C (10:04 AM EDT on April 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 12.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
14:01 jdavidb @wunder 20817
14:00 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is 16.2ï¿½C (4:00 PM CEST on April 16, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 6.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling).
14:00 nicomo @wunder lyon france
13:20 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 23.9ï¿½C (9:23 AM EDT on April 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 12.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Falling).
13:20 jwagner @wunder 20817
13:19 jwagner Morning, all.
13:19 chris_n g'morning
12:05 Nate so good afternoon :)
12:05 Nate i think it is your afternoon
12:04 Nate ?
12:04 Nate is it morning for you/
12:04 Nate hi Paul
12:04 paul_p good morning to you !
12:03 paul_p hiya Nate
12:03 Nate Good morning #koha!
11:16 nengard hiya
11:09 Amit_G heya nengard
10:21 nahuel ok
10:21 nahuel hÃ©hÃ©
10:21 slef English wholegrain :)
10:21 nahuel :)
10:21 nahuel from dijon ?
10:21 slef nahuel: wrong mustard ;-)
10:21 nahuel stop! now i'm hungry
10:20 nahuel slef, pork in mustard, we have in france :)
10:17 kf cya :)
10:17 chris cya later kf
10:17 kf bye all
10:16 kf :)
10:15 chris ill eat anything :-)
10:14 slef I like French food, but I prefer some English food like pork in mustard, or some good battered fish with potatoes and salad.
10:14 chris ahhh
10:13 kf im still at the conference, last presentation right now
10:13 nahuel We're going to buy a chicken fries salad :)
10:13 nahuel yes !
10:12 chris hehe
10:12 kf getting hungry here :)
10:10 nahuel and "blanquette de veau"
10:10 nahuel Like "boeuf bourguignon"
10:10 nahuel I prefer french food :)
10:09 magnus i'm not overly familiar with uk cuisine, but i would like to say i had two superb meals here last year: http://www.thedukew1.co.uk/
10:08 chris ive only been in gatwick and heathrow, and on a bus between them, so i cant have an opinion
10:03 slef too many people, moving too fast, in a polluted city
10:02 slef paul_p: London is not high point of UK food
10:02 paul_p slef, probably. My only experience in UK was the conference last year. I agree it's just launching a troll then...
10:02 slef chris: the Lions are a bit of a joke team IMO (but I won't say that near them)
10:02 kf :)
10:02 kf chris: chris++ #for helping me with koha history
10:02 slef paul_p: you need to visit real England and Wales.
10:02 chris better rugby team at the moment too :)
10:01 slef paul_p: no :-)
10:01 chris :)
10:01 paul_p (can I say "better food" without being suspected to troll ;-) )
10:01 slef wine - tastes nice but stunts your growth?
10:01 slef chris: that may explain why they are not developing so fast ;-)
10:01 paul_p chris, lol !
10:01 chris slef: but with better wine :)
10:00 kf hi chris
10:00 slef France is UK from the early 1990s. ;-)
10:00 chris great news about your presentation
10:00 chris hi kf :)
09:59 paul_p france is different ;-)
09:59 paul_p (just working home *those years*)
09:58 paul_p slef, my wife, that is a midwife in public hospital (and just working home to educate our 4 chilrdens) thought about working a little for a private hospital. But she can't without an explicit permission ! (or she should resign from the public system). The permission is usually given, but sometimes not...
09:57 slef I think the big three parties are all talking about moving more gov.uk people to uk.coop members after the election, too.
09:56 slef two of software.coop work for gov.uk as well as us... one's employer encourages it, the other tolerates it.
09:56 slef wow, French govt is very different to ours
09:52 paul_p nicomo leaves because he want to work as a librarian again. and in France, most librarians (including nicolas) are employed by the govt, and they can't have a job as librarian and a job in a private company !
09:50 slef paul_p: It worries me a bit because Bull and Everthingy aren't famous for FOSS, if you know what I mean. Also, why is nicomo leaving completely? But it would be good to see you around the community more again.
09:49 chris via bangkok i thnk
09:49 chris im trying to remember how russel and i got to paris for kohacon
09:49 slef chris: cool. Maybe they still fly out.
09:49 chris (they fly via singapore)
09:48 chris lufthansa into frankfurt
09:48 paul_p slef, this move will not change anything for Koha Community. Well, it may be a good news in fact, because 1- Philippe is a very experienced CEO, and 2- I hope that will let me have some time to get involved again in Koha (that, frankly I did not really a lot for the last 18months :( )
09:46 slef chris: which non-UK airports this end?
09:46 chris slef: yep, usually via hong kong or singapore
09:45 chris paul_p: yeah, about nicomo leaving
09:44 slef I saw it. The Koha Company-go-round continues. :-(
09:43 Amit_G hi slef, paul_P
09:43 paul_p ( hi slef too ;-) )
09:42 paul_p chris, hi. did you see our (BibLibre) news ?
09:39 nahuel ^^
09:39 slef nahuel: it's been hashkohadotted
09:39 nahuel arf it seems to have a problÃ¨me "radar virtuel"
09:39 slef Does anywhere else in EU fly to NZ except UK?
09:38 chris ta
09:37 slef Quantas still flying to AU out of Frankfurt
09:37 nahuel :)
09:33 chris oh wow, thats neat
09:32 nahuel do you know : http://www.radar-virtuel.com/ ?
09:32 slef looking at flightmapping.com for flights to NZ
09:31 slef Munich still flying... Frankfurt airport website not answering
09:30 slef let me check they really are still flying ;-)
09:30 chris ill tell donna that
09:30 chris ahh
09:30 slef our connections to Spain and Italy rely on stiking French railways
09:29 slef oh yeah... I knew there was a reason to prefer southern Germany
09:29 nahuel for 9 days
09:29 nahuel And in france we have a strike
09:28 chris ahh
09:27 slef We only have one train line to France
09:27 slef Problem is that all UK cross-channel links are probably maxed out now
09:26 slef depends how long you want to spend on a train ;-)
09:26 slef Spain, Italy, southern Germany
09:26 chris is anywhere in train distance from the uk flying?
09:18 slef I think Iceland still has flights. Volcano is near south coast, blowing south.
09:17 nahuel it's crazy !
09:17 nahuel ^^
09:16 slef I flew on them once. 1996 I think.
09:16 nahuel slef, But they fear about a bigger volcano that is not so far...
09:16 slef BA are one of the worst :-(
09:16 chris thats what british airlines told her
09:16 chris yeah
09:16 slef free? Some airlines have been saying "act of god, no compensation"
09:16 chris well, not free ... act of god, airlines/insurance wont pay :(
09:15 nahuel chris, she have some free holidays :)
09:15 nahuel Brussel Airlines said me monday will be flights
09:15 slef nahuel: yesterday they were saying all flights will be back this morning. Geologists say there is no telling when the volcano stops.
09:15 chris my sister is in london, she cant get back to nz
09:14 slef I helped rescue one Englishman from Germany yesterday. Got one of the last Eurostar seats back.
09:14 nahuel slef, It seem tonight or tomorow all flights be back
09:14 nahuel i'm going to install koha
09:14 slef nahuel: you reckon things will be flying Monday? :-/
09:14 nahuel work
09:13 chris for work? or a holiday
09:13 nahuel I'll go monday
09:13 nahuel chris, I had to take the plane today... but with this volcano in Iceland I can't...
09:11 magnus slef: sure...
09:10 slef hi all... I'm not here much today
09:10 slef magnus: ITYM aptitude install koha these days ;-)
09:01 magnus wow, that is great!
08:57 chris its not ready to go into debian yet, but it actually will install a working koha
08:57 chris do=now
08:57 chris do you can build the package and dpkg -i it
08:56 chris yup
08:55 magnus s/tht/that/
08:55 magnus so tht brings us closer to "sudo apt-get install koha", right?
08:33 chris tis neat
08:33 chris yeah
08:32 * chilts didn't even realise a few of the things you could do (from that script)
08:32 chilts that's a very clean looking script too, very nice
08:31 chris specially http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=debian/build-git-snapshot
08:30 chris im also very exited about larsw's packaging stuff
08:28 Amit_G yes chris
08:25 chris nahuel: are you going to sierra leone for work?
08:24 * chris hopes kf comes back i want to ask how her presentation went
08:24 chris oh cool
08:24 * chris goes to look
08:24 chris so = some
08:24 chris oh so patches from Amit_G
08:23 magnus hiya chris
08:22 chris evening all
07:27 nahuel hey!
07:27 Amit_G heya nahuel
07:27 kf hi Amit_G
07:19 Amit_G heya kf, Ropuch
07:18 magnus poor nahuel!
07:17 magnus thanks! still no planes running, but at least we don't have the smell of sulphur they have further south
07:17 paul_p nahuel was supposed to flight to Sierra Leone ... today... flight cancelled, of course !
07:17 paul_p hello magnus ! good (volcanoed) morning
07:16 magnus bon jour, paul_p
07:15 magnus Guten Morgen, kf
07:15 kf hi magnus
07:14 magnus g'day #koha
07:13 kf hi Ropuch
07:11 Ropuch^_ Hi kf
07:10 kf hi #koha again
06:57 kf ah, laptop restart bbl
06:56 hdl_laptop hi zihi kf
06:55 kf hi #koha
06:23 munin brendan: The current temperature in North Mission (Valencia & Market), San Francisco, California is 12.8ï¿½C (11:12 PM PDT on April 15, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 6.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady).
06:23 brendan @wunder San Francisco CA
06:04 Ropuch^_ Morning #koha
05:56 nicomo thanks
05:56 brendan nicomo++
05:56 brendan congrats nicomo on the new job
05:55 brendan was alright
05:55 nicomo baseball game was nice?
05:55 nicomo hi brendan
05:55 brendan heya nicomo
05:52 nicomo hello #koha
05:48 zico Amit_G: Hi
05:46 Amit_G heya zico
05:41 zico is there anyone who can help me regarding this Outstanding Fine issue?
04:58 zico this is very important for me...because.... in my instituition ... koha is in production machine.... and we are running koha daily
04:57 zico i mean.... my patron has overdue....but... outstanding fines are showing 0.0 !!!
04:57 zico my koha cannot calculate fines
04:57 zico i am facing a little bit problem in my Koha server
04:55 zico :)
04:55 zico how are you all?
04:55 zico hi
04:39 gmcharlt larsw++
03:50 chris woo hoo :)
03:48 * larsw sends out a couple of patches for Debian packaging
03:47 chris hiya Amit_G
03:45 Amit_G heya brendan, chris
03:12 larsw translation of wiki content: http://ikiwiki.info/plugins/po/
03:12 gmcharlt the choice of wiki software is othogonal to the question of creating a new wiki in the first place
03:11 gmcharlt so the current wiki is left in a mixed licensing situation
03:11 gmcharlt and although there were no negative votes as far as I know, not all known contributors voted to relicense
03:10 gmcharlt there was a community vote to relicense the current wiki under the GPL
03:10 gmcharlt one of the other motivations for a new wiki is to have a clean slate so that the content can be licensed under the GPL
03:10 gmcharlt translation of wiki content via .po files, or the wiki's user interface?
03:09 larsw I have no idea about encouragement
03:09 larsw gmcharlt, I haven't tested it yet, but ikiwiki has translation support via po files (i.e., gettext) and has a good plugin architecture; support is a matter of taste and money (joeyh, ikiwiki author, is typically quite fast at fixing things, but does it currently as a hobby)
03:07 gmcharlt larsw: from my point of view, any wiki software that (a) encourages people (including librarians) to use and update it (b) has reasonable support for managing multiple languages and translations of pages and (c) has a reasonable plugin architecture and is well-supported
03:05 larsw I type faster than I read, I can't help it
03:05 larsw :)
03:05 chris you type too fast :-)
03:05 chris larsw: i bet you say ikiwiki
03:05 * larsw really likes ikiwiki (http://ikiwiki.info) but has no idea what's needed or wanted from a wiki for koha
03:04 gmcharlt indradg: why? (honest question here - are you speaking from doing a direct comparison?)
03:03 indradg gmcharlt, I would say DocuWIki would be better tool
03:03 larsw thinking of switching to a new wiki engine for koha?
03:02 gmcharlt ?
03:01 gmcharlt do you have an opinion on the matter
03:01 indradg gmcharlt, any decisions finally on the wiki s/w to use?
03:00 gmcharlt indradg: pong
02:44 chris pazpar2 and gutenberg?
02:42 indradg gmcharlt, ping
02:42 indradg lol
02:39 richard heh
02:38 * gmcharlt makes chris guess ;)
02:34 chris ?
02:29 gmcharlt chris++