Time Nick Message 20:54 Jo hi Chris 20:48 chris_n bbl 20:46 chris_n hi Jo 20:43 richard :) 20:42 chris richard: im sure my dogs will bark like mental retards whenever they walk past :) 20:35 chris cute! 20:35 richard the dog on the left is my partner's dog and i picked up the chap on the right on saturday 20:35 richard chris: got some playmates for your dogs - http://katipo.co.nz/~richard/kelly-jack.jpg 20:34 richard hi chris_n and chris 20:34 chris morning 20:33 chris_n hey richard 20:32 richard hi 20:29 chris_n wizzyrea: that would be a nice addition 20:19 hdl_laptop k 20:15 gmcharlt jransom: pong, and agreed re meeting time 20:15 jransom Driving to work now but will be online by 9am 20:14 jransom If anan alert subcmmittee members of this message I would appreciate that: Galen, Henri, Rachel, Chris, Geoorge, me 20:13 wizzyrea bc I think it's a neat idea to highlight how active your project is by linking to the log of patches accepted :P 20:13 jransom Koha Subcommittee members: who would be available for an irc meeting in 45 mins at 9am NZ time? 20:13 wizzyrea git.koha.org is our equivalent to this right? http://core.trac.wordpress.org/timeline 20:02 hdl_laptop good how are you ? 20:02 cait hi hdl_laptop 20:02 chris_n howdy hdl_laptop 20:01 brendan hi hdl_laptop 20:01 hdl_laptop hi 19:49 owen bbt [tomorrow] 19:49 owen ok, home time 19:41 chris bbl 19:40 chris ok, bus time 19:26 chris_n heya chris 19:25 brendan morning 19:25 chris thats pretty hilarious 19:25 wizzyrea all mine does is talk about shopping with blue whales 19:25 wizzyrea ah, it's chris and owen, the people with the hilarious kids 19:25 chris hiya owen 19:24 owen good morning chris 19:23 chris morning 19:17 jwagner See, munin has a personality too! I've long thought so. 19:14 owen I think munin gives us quotes from pianohacker because it's been so long since we've seen him in person 19:11 munin jwagner: Quote #9: "pianohacker ponders drumstick->ear as a method of food acquisition...We haven't gone to this good mexican restaurant in a while..." (added by wizzyrea at 04:23 PM, June 19, 2009) 19:11 jwagner @quote random 19:09 munin brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 13.9�C (11:45 AM PDT on April 13, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising). 19:09 brendan @wunder 93117 18:54 cait wizzyrea: not finished yet, presentation is on thursday 18:54 * jdavidb waves to brendan 18:49 brendan :D 18:46 jdavidb Hi, cait. :) 18:44 wizzyrea get your preso done? 18:43 cait hi wizzyrea 18:43 wizzyrea hey cait 18:40 cait hi all 17:49 gmcharlt jwagner: ok 17:49 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4377 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, cannot confirm hold due to missing letter 17:49 jwagner gmcharlt, see patch for Bug 4377 -- I haven't tried creating a notice file before, so please check it carefully. 16:23 gmcharlt but if you're feeling helpful and want to submit a patch to ensure that there aren't bits missing, that's fine 16:22 jwagner So it's OK to submit a patch without including that one? 16:22 gmcharlt typically we'd rely on whoever is maintining the language to keep it up to date 16:22 gmcharlt jwagner: it can be a little inconsisent from language to language 16:22 jwagner Don't know if that's a problem. 16:22 jwagner The uk-UA mandatory directory doesn't have a sample_notices.sql file, but the other four language directories do. 16:21 jwagner Anybody online who works with the installer language directories? 16:08 kf ok, will finish my slides tomorrow - by äkoha! 15:58 gmcharlt chris_n: didn't have any particular plans on doing so, but I'll push a patch to move it out of the way 15:58 chris_n but it still might be good to add to the list 15:57 chris_n maybe gmcharlt has a word on that 15:57 chris_n wizzyrea: I'm guessing that zebraqueue daemon will disappear from 3.2 15:50 len and now everything works, even encoding problems are solved 15:50 len but I think 3 is much better than 2. I had a lot of problems with z3950 search in 2 15:49 len unfortunatelly you never know which one applies to your version 15:48 wizzyrea there are lots of common faq's about zebra 15:48 wizzyrea maybe it should be a faq 15:48 wizzyrea ooh, wonder how often people run into that one 15:45 chris_n the docs need a bit of updating which will probably happen before the 3.2 stable release 15:44 chris_n len: great! 15:44 len chris_n: just to say thank you. I stopped the zebraqueue, restarted zebra and it seems to work with rebuild_zebra -a -b -z 15:37 * jwagner wishes the cloning module would get finished :-( 15:36 kf not having time sounds really familiar :( 15:36 jwagner I was actually looking at something different (holds-related) in current head, & ran into this one. 15:35 jwagner No, haven't tested for that, and don't have the time right now. 15:35 chris_n jwagner: can you confirm kf's currency problem? 15:35 jwagner Not sure where the problem crept in. We'll work on it when we get a chance, but hdl may get there quicker. He knows what changes he made in the code. 15:35 wizzyrea yikes, that's a crazy bug 15:34 kf jwagner: thx! I did not test print hold notices yet, but will remember! 15:34 wizzyrea I think it's in wikipedia, actually. It's kind of a "real" thign 15:34 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4386 major, P2, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, New print notice feature not obeying email address for hold notices 15:34 kf is there a quote or something? 15:34 jwagner kf, not directly relevant to your hold notice problem, but I spotted a problem with the print notice version now in head. See Bug 4386 15:34 wizzyrea :D 15:34 kf thank you! 15:34 wizzyrea >.> 15:34 * wizzyrea first heard it from gmcharlt 15:34 kf wizzyrea+++ 15:33 wizzyrea coopetition? 15:33 kf there was a nice term about how the community works with different vendors involved 15:33 wizzyrea chris_n wasn't there some kind of memory leak in zebraqueue? 15:32 kf hm working on my presentation 15:19 len maybe there is a conflict, I will try this 15:18 chris_n hence the change to rebuild_zebra.pl as a cronjob 15:18 chris_n but it does not work well 15:16 chris_n nope, zebraqueue was intended to index entries on the fly 15:15 len I was under the impression koha uses the zebraqueue to pass queries to zebra 15:15 chris_n the rebuild_zebra.pl cronjob replaces the zebraqueue daemon 15:15 chris_n just zebra 15:15 len what should I run? 15:14 chris_n it is deprecated 15:14 chris_n len: don't run zebraqueue daemon 15:13 len http://paste.workbuffer.org/5 15:09 hilongo yep ... loks exactly like mine :P ... but try ps aux|grep zebra.. just for the fun of seeing all the parameters 15:06 len yes: http://paste.workbuffer.org/4 15:05 hilongo oh!... and zebraserver is running? if you do something like ps aux|grep zebra 15:02 * hilongo is out of ideas ..... for now 15:00 len yes, I tested the permissions for /var/run/zebradb, /var/lock/zebradb and /var/lib/zebradb 14:59 hilongo and the owner of /var/lib/zebradb/bilios is the same as you are running rebuildzebra? 14:57 len if I don't set them the script does not work at all 14:57 len yes 14:57 hilongo len: you have set up PERL5LIB and KOHACONF variables correctly? 14:51 len maybe I will find a solution, I am always an optimiste ;) 14:50 chris_n len: there are others who are real zebra gurus, so maybe a post to the list will generate a solution 14:41 len I will check further, thank you anyway ;) 14:41 chris_n I ran with -r for a long time 14:40 * chris_n had this very problem, but cannot remember what fixed it to save his life :P 14:39 len in fact only this 14:38 len in log there is a lot of Index 'Heading-Main' not found in attset(s) 14:37 len error log is empty 14:36 munin chris_n: si was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 0 days, 6 hours, 26 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <si> have a good meeting, all 14:36 chris_n @seen si 14:34 chris_n and koha-zebradaemon.err 14:34 chris_n len: so what do koha-zebradaemon.log and koha-zebradaemon-output.log say? 14:34 len sorry, here it is: http://paste.workbuffer.org/3 14:34 * chris_n regrets the fact that we have no ops and so the topic line is not set 14:33 chris_n len: yeah, using paste.workbuffer.org works better :) 14:33 imp baaah, use pastebin please 14:33 len it seems no changes are detected 14:33 len ==================== 14:32 len CLEANING 14:32 len ==================== 14:32 len ==================== 14:32 len REINDEXING zebra 14:32 len ==================== 14:32 len Records exported: 0 14:32 len Records exported: 0 14:32 len ==================== 14:32 len exporting biblio 14:32 len ==================== 14:32 len ==================== 14:32 len REINDEXING zebra 14:32 len ==================== 14:32 len Records exported: 0 14:32 len Records exported: 0 14:32 len ==================== 14:32 len exporting authority 14:32 len ==================== 14:32 len ================================ 14:32 len BIBLIOITEMNUMBER in : 999$d 14:32 len BIBLIONUMBER in : 999$c 14:32 len Koha directory = /usr/share/koha304/intranet/cgi-bin 14:32 len Zebra authorities directory = /usr/share/koha304/var/lib/zebradb/authorities 14:32 len Zebra biblio directory = /usr/share/koha304/var/lib/zebradb/biblios 14:32 len ================================ 14:32 len Zebra configuration information 14:31 len gives me 14:31 len running with -v 14:31 chris_n run this rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z -v 14:31 len yes 14:31 chris_n just to check: this is being run as your kohauser? 14:30 len I've tried by hand and with -z nothing is reindexed 14:30 len the problem is that I've tried */10 * * * * /usr/share/koha304/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null as in the doc and it does not work 14:30 chris_n /home/koha/koha.prod/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 14:29 len */10 * * * * /usr/share/koha304/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a >/dev/null 14:29 len yes, I've setup already one 14:29 len sorry 14:29 len oui 14:29 chris_n hold on and I'll post an example 14:28 chris_n len: you need to setup a cron job to run rebuild_zebra 14:17 len any ideeas? 14:16 len however new entries are not indexed and cannot be found, I have to reindex everything each time with rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a 14:16 len and I have added rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z in crontab 14:15 munin 04Bug 3072: major, P5, ---, jmf@liblime.com, NEW, 'Heading-Main' authority-index breaks authority searching in STABLE 14:15 len I migrated to zebra, done a rebuild_zebra, fixed authorities search as described here: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3072 14:13 len I have a follow up question regarding yesterday talk about nozebra to zebra migration 14:11 len hello everybody 14:03 kf chris_n: thx for your help. I really like that feature, the library will be very happy too. 14:01 chris_n kf: I'll see if I can get someone else to verify the status of this and get back to you 14:00 paul_p jwagner, yes I do 14:00 jwagner paul_p, online? 14:00 kf chris_n: thanks :) 13:57 owen Unfortunately no 13:56 * chris_n is trying to verify kf 's issue 13:55 chris_n are you setup to test the overdue notices with the currency formatting? 13:55 owen Yes 13:55 chris_n owen: about? 13:53 kf chris_n: our installation is near to current head, missing only the last patches 13:52 chris_n I wonder if anyone else who is using the overdue notice and running code from HEAD or alpha could test? 13:52 chris_n I'd imagine its a utf8 issue, but that's a guess 13:51 chris_n checking with a different mysql client displays the EUR symbol correctly 13:50 kf chris_n: I checked the message_queue table (using the report module) and there its € too 13:49 chris_n so it would throw and error if you had a different version 13:49 chris_n kf: I don't think so, I require 1.28 in the 'use' 13:47 kf chris_n: ok, perhaps our cpan module is too old or something? 13:46 hilongo How's all that magic going? 13:46 hilongo Hello #Koha :) 13:46 chris_n but it appears fine in the recipient's email client 13:45 chris_n hmm... in the message_queue table I have this: Current fine: �2,25 13:44 kf this is a weird week, I should not be surprised 13:44 kf I got the same result for html notices (print) and email 13:43 chris_n looks ok 13:43 kf <item><<biblio.title>> / <<biblio.author>>, <<items.itemcallnumber>>, Barcode: <<items.barcode>> Gebühr: <fine>EUR</fine></item> 13:42 chris_n Thank-you for your prompt attention to this matter. 13:42 chris_n <item>"<<biblio.title>>" by <<biblio.author>>, <<items.itemcallnumber>>, Barcode: <<items.barcode>> Current fine: <fine>EUR</fine></item> 13:42 chris_n The following item(s) is/are currently overdue and are accruing fines: 13:42 kf chris_n: I got €0,00 13:41 kf chris_n: oh, how does your entry in notices look likeß 13:39 chris_n so I'd guess its something local 13:39 chris_n Thank-you for your prompt attention to this matter. 13:39 chris_n "A Short History of Western Civilization" by Harrison, John B, 909.09821 H2451, Barcode: JL08030003 Current fine: �2,25 13:39 chris_n The following item(s) is/are currently overdue and are accruing fines: 13:39 chris_n kf: here's what it looks like from here 13:24 kf chris_n: no problem, I just wondered if I my configuration was wrong. 13:20 munin chris_n: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 5 days, 18 hours, 10 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <pianohacker> that's all :) 13:20 chris_n @seen pianohacker 13:20 chris_n kf: I'll setup and test it in a bit... it worked fine with several symbols on my dev machine when I did that work 13:20 DRUlm Yeah, pretty good. Any news in Koha-land? 13:19 * jdavidb watched a much-younger-than-now Bowie in _Labyrinth_ a couple of days ago. 13:18 DRUlm (David Bowie reference) 13:18 DRUlm (I mean "news" not new) 13:18 DRUlm Hey, what is the new, I hear all of the dudes carry it? 13:16 kf hi jdavid :) 13:14 munin jdavidb: Quote #36: "<pianohacker> first, burn the perl book" (added by jdavidb at 03:12 PM, September 25, 2009) 13:14 jdavidb @quote random 13:14 jdavidb mornin', DRUlm. :) 13:14 jdavidb hi, kf. :) 13:11 DRUlm Hell-o 13:11 kf chris_n: I have a question about use of <fine></fine> in html notices, I tested with EUR and the result was not really readable (strange characters instead of EUR or €) 13:09 kf heya chris_n 13:09 chris_n heya kf 13:09 kf hi jwagner 13:08 jwagner Guten tag, kf 13:08 wajasu morning 13:07 kf hi #koha 12:36 chris_n we woke up the other night to the sound of what we thought was a nest of baby mice... it turned out to be a nest of baby rabbits directly under the porch 12:35 chris_n hehe 12:35 * owen thinks Maybe a bigger sword... 12:34 owen He sleeps with a flashlight *and* a sword and still won't get a drink of water by himself. 12:34 owen 12.30am is about when my boy was up for the 4th time... *yawn* 12:33 chris_n g'morning all 12:32 * jwagner sends chris tea, sympathy, and cough drops 12:31 chris i have an annoying cough that is keeping me awake 12:26 jwagner morning, gmcharlt 12:25 gmcharlt good morning 12:25 * jwagner could use a nap and I've only been at work for an hour.... 12:24 chris will be going to sleep soon 12:24 chris 12.30am 12:23 chris its not too bad 12:23 magnus or awfully early... 12:21 jwagner (and hi) 12:21 jwagner chris, aren't you up awfully late? 12:19 chris hi jwagner 12:18 jwagner G'morning all.... 08:32 magnus g'day #koha 07:49 chris righto 07:48 kf I will add a screenshot to the bug 07:48 kf new translation problems ( 07:48 chris whats up? 07:48 chris am now kf 07:29 kf hi Amit 07:26 Amit_G heya kf 06:58 kf chris: around? 06:58 kf good morning #koha 05:11 Amit_G hi brendan 05:10 brendan heya Amit_G 03:38 chris ill check that though 03:38 chris afaik, the MARC::File::XML module we use depends on LibXML 03:38 larsw on Debian squeeze 03:37 larsw this is from a fairly recent git version 03:37 larsw does Koha still insist on the sax parser to be XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser? I am following INSTALL.debian-lenny, whcih tells me to run misc/sax_parser_print.pl, which tells me I have XML::SAX::Expat instead 02:36 wajasu show that be left that way? 02:35 wajasu it used to only show 100 or so at a time. 02:35 wajasu i'm staging records into 3.2alpha. When you hit the manage stage records link, and it gives a page with a table with all the records imported, thats a bit too much if you stage 16000 records. 01:30 eythian gmcharlt: ooh, good point. 01:29 gmcharlt dunno, the ambiguity could flatter Koha *and* the library contemplating Koha 01:28 eythian or a semicolon 01:28 eythian Needs a comma :) 01:26 chris "You can see why we choose Koha to manage your library because it is the best." 01:26 chilts the words take on more meaning 01:26 chilts nice site, it's simple but it works :) 01:22 chris http://library-people.com/ 00:17 redmr I'm sure everyone here is enjoying National Library Week 00:16 redmr either way i added the Yaml module and the installer begins fine. 00:15 redmr i did a controlled fresh install of 3.2 alpha and upon my 1st web installer page, i got an error Yaml.pm not found. Is that a preqreq? I only installed the ...yaml-syck module as listed in Makefile.PL