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22:46 munin           moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 10.9�C (5:47 PM CDT on April 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Rising).
22:46 moodaepo        @wunder 56001
22:44 richard         seems to be the way to go
22:42 richard         just had a query from someone wanting to set up a consortium and was wondering if it would be better to tell them to wait for 3.2
22:41 richard         that sounds very cool
22:40 gmcharlt        richard: things like circ policy matrixes are keyed to the branch, though, and several settings have been mvoed to the matrix level that used to be global sysprefs
22:39 richard         thought so. thanks
22:39 gmcharlt        richard: system preferences are still global, even with indy branches
22:38 munin           chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 25.7�C (6:36 PM EDT on April 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.32 in 992.8 hPa (Falling).
22:37 chris_n         @wunder 28334
22:17 brendan         can you beat me chris?
22:17 munin           brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 22.2�C (2:50 PM PDT on April 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling).
22:17 brendan         @wunder 93117
22:16 richard         gmlcharlt: in koha3.2 when you have independant branches on, do each of branches need to have the same system preferences (loan lengths, fines etc)?
22:14 richard         see koha
22:14 richard         chris: this might need updating -> http://nzoss.org.nz/projects
22:13 gmcharlt        mib_zq3jns: well, HTML::Template::Pro doesn't include explicit multi-language support either, but we've been able to work around that
21:58 mib_zq3jns      then about the Perl Template Toolkit, does not include multi language and not relative paths neither
21:53 chris           and people can respond to that
21:53 chris           maybe send a mail to koha-devel suggesting a time
21:52 mib_zq3jns      if you pleased, of course
21:51 mib_zq3jns      :P
21:51 mib_zq3jns      We can arrange a date for these developments, in Spain is a little late, and this issue requires attention
21:49 gmcharlt        :)
21:49 mib_zq3jns      the Zebra facets not advanced
21:49 gmcharlt        yep
21:49 chris           well gmcharlt is going to be the main person for the search rewrite, so i would definitely talk to him too
21:48 mib_zq3jns      but itÅ› very difficult road
21:47 mib_zq3jns      i talk with Damien Henri
21:47 chris           a rewrite of C4::Search is planned for 3.4 and he is interested in that
21:47 chris           you should talk with gmcharlt about that
21:46 chris           cool
21:46 mib_zq3jns      anyway, our main objective is to create the facets with pazpar2
21:45 chris           once you start persisting objects, you need to be much more careful about that
21:45 chris           ie destroy connections
21:45 chris           so we clean up
21:45 chris           or it may be just that we need to change our koha code
21:44 chris           and send patches
21:43 chris           yeah we would have to probably do some work on that module
21:43 mib_zq3jns      sometimes returns no results, but if you press F5 ... yes
21:42 mib_zq3jns      we send an email to indexdata but nothing
21:41 chris           yeah
21:41 mib_zq3jns      but fail in Zoom library
21:41 mib_zq3jns      we tested perlRun
21:40 chris           at least for the sites we use it on
21:40 chris           (or maybe it just feels that way ;))
21:40 chris           i know that nginx is about 1000 times faster than apache to serve
21:40 chris           its on my list
21:40 chris           but i havent had time to try nginx + fast cgi and koha yet
21:40 chris           we run nginx at work
21:39 mib_zq3jns      do you any test of this ?
21:37 chris           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nginx
21:37 chris           super fast webserver
21:37 mib_zq3jns      nginx ¿?
21:37 chris           so as long as when we add mod_perl we dont stop it being able to work without mod_perl that would be ok
21:36 chris           nginx + fast_cgi would be my option
21:36 chris           and currently you can run it with any webserver
21:36 chris           it does tie koha hard to apache tho
21:35 chris           mod_perl is certainly an option
21:35 mib_zq3jns      significant performance decrease = mod_perl
21:33 chris           last time i tried it was a significant performance decrease
21:33 chris           like i say, if you can make it work fast on the fly, go for it :)
21:33 mib_zq3jns      nd I think they should take to correct relative paths
21:31 mib_zq3jns      :D
21:31 chris           pretty much all of linux uses .po
21:31 chris           yes, koha uses .po
21:31 mib_zq3jns      any major programming language used. po
21:30 chris           sure, if you can make it work fast :)
21:29 mib_zq3jns      but ... I believe we should take advantage of this development
21:29 chris           on the fly translation is slow, prerendered templates will always outperform that
21:28 chris           the french guys have been running multilingual for years
21:28 mib_zq3jns      yes ¿?
21:27 chris           with 3.4 we will still be using .po
21:27 mib_zq3jns      puff
21:27 chris           others have managed with the .po files
21:27 chris           oh?
21:27 mib_zq3jns      it is impossible to maintain multiple language
21:26 mib_zq3jns      so do we, but we are interested in the multilingual
21:24 chris           before we start creating new bugs :)
21:24 chris           but my current focus (as should everyones be) is getting bugs fixed so we can release 3.2
21:24 chris           http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/template
21:23 chris           http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:rfcs3.4
21:23 mib_zq3jns      oh
21:23 chris           and ive already done some work on it
21:23 chris           its on the roadmap for 3.4
21:23 mib_zq3jns      yes
21:22 chris           have you looked at the rfc's for 3.4?
21:22 mib_zq3jns      im miguel of xercode
21:22 chris           yes
21:22 mib_zq3jns      you know if someone is investigating Perl Template Toolkit  ¿?
21:20 cait            good night all :)
21:20 mib_zq3jns      hi
21:10 chris           basically in a marc record (marc21 anyway) everything except the item specific (barcode etc) data is sharable
21:09 chris           and the national libraries of most countires have lots of catalogue records
21:09 chris           there is a lot in library of congress
21:08 larsw           I know nothing of library management but I assume some of the record data is shareable between libraries, but some is specific to each library
21:06 chris           http://biblios.net/
21:06 chris           larsw: the answer is no really, biblios.net was a good initiative, but it kinda of withered
21:06 * larsw         looks at the cost analysis thread on koha@ and wonders if enough is being done for libraries to share catalog record data, instead of duplicating effort
21:04 cm              bye all!
20:55 larsw           yup, found and subscribed
20:55 chris           ahh http://identi.ca/ranginui/
20:55 larsw           on identi.ca :)
20:55 chris           where are you searching that?
20:54 chris           heh
20:54 * larsw         realizes that searching for "chris" is perhaps not the most effective way
20:52 ebegin          :)
20:51 chris           gotta walk the walk if you are gonna talk the talk :-)
20:51 ebegin          chris, I'm happy to see that you are using identi.ca!
20:37 chris           back
20:27 * magnus_away   goes offline
20:24 richard         hi
19:57 * chris         goes to catch his bus
19:46 cait            chris! ;)
19:46 chris           np
19:46 chris_n         thanks chris
19:45 munin           chris: The operation succeeded.  Quote #71 added.
19:45 chris           @quote add cait: hm it works now and I have no idea why :)
19:36 * cait          nods
19:35 * chris_n       has this vague idea that munin is related to zebra somehow ;)
19:35 cait            :)
19:35 * chris_n       pours cait a glass of milk
19:34 * cait          shares one of jdavidb's cookies with chris_n
19:33 * chris_n       hates tight-loops
19:33 munin           chris_n: Error: "will" is not a valid command.
19:33 chris_n         munin will not allow me to identify because my hostmask is wrong... and I can't add a hostmask because I'm not identified...
19:32 chris_n         well that stinks...
19:31 cait            hey :)
19:31 chris_n         yes munin
19:30 munin           chris_n: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
19:30 chris_n         @quote add cait: hm it works now and I have no idea why :)
19:29 cait            hm it works now and I have no idea why :)
18:59 cait            I just want to add a new index :(
18:58 cait            I would like to
18:58 wizzyrea_laptop have you tried spanking it?
18:57 cait            my zebra is stubborn :(
18:57 wizzyrea_laptop wtf is going on at my office lol
18:56 wizzyrea_laptop whoa no kidding
18:56 * jdavidb       finds all these wizzies very confusing.
18:32 cm              i just finished reindexing.  no change in the facets.  still just the results for the current page.  :(
17:54 cait            hdl_laptop: thx, I will try to redo everything from scratch und hope it will work in the end
17:44 cait            ah, no, its not there
17:44 hdl_laptop      usually your devinstall/var/log/koha-zebradeamon....
17:43 hdl_laptop      in logs koha-zebradaemon-output.log
17:43 cait            can you tell me where those are?
17:42 cait            i can search for Control-number:006... and find the one with 001
17:42 hdl_laptop      and what do you have in your zebra logs, if you log your queries.
17:42 cait            hdl_laptop: I search for 006869769 and get three results, which is corret, one in 001 and to in $w I added to my new index
17:41 hdl_laptop      directly with zebra
17:41 hdl_laptop      what you could do is try and index 2 records.
17:41 cait            hdl_laptop: I reindexed with -b -r - but no change
17:41 hdl_laptop      -b -reset
17:36 cait            any options I should use or is -b enough?
17:34 cait            and thx for your help, i really need to solve this so I can continue with the next step
17:34 cait            I changed the file ccl.properties as you suggested, no difference, will reindex now
17:33 hdl_laptop      don't think so but at least reindex the whole stuff.
17:32 cait            do i need to restart zebrasrv to make it work?
17:32 cait            no
17:32 cait            hm I saw none, but let me check to make sure
17:31 hdl_laptop      is there no other att 1045 in bib1.att ?
17:30 cait            its the last line in pastebin
17:30 cait            I added this line to bib1.att: att 1045    Record-control-number
17:30 cait            sorry, was in the kitchen, give me a minute
17:30 cait            hi hdl_laptop
17:29 hdl_laptop      HTH
17:29 hdl_laptop      and you wouldnot even have to reindex.
17:29 hdl_laptop      http://pastebin.com/sSxvEhbt
17:28 hdl_laptop      cait: otherwise, you could just use
17:28 hdl_laptop      (bib1.att used to be case-sensitive. I guess it isnot any longer.)
17:27 hdl_laptop      cait: I think what you are missing is bib1.att modification so that 1045 is linked with Record-control-number
17:15 cait            hm.
17:11 cait            this is what I did: http://pastebin.com/LjCfMWZj
17:11 cait            somone willing to help me find my error in zebra? I want to add a new index Record-control-number (short rcn). It think indexing worked, because I can find the titles in simple search, but not with my index name rcn:
17:01 cait            hi and thx for the cookies :)
17:00 jwagner         hi cait
17:00 * jdavidb       waves and sends cookies to cait.
17:00 cait            hi #koha
16:56 brendan         morning
16:56 jwagner         schuster, that's on more-or-less current head?
16:54 munin           04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4379 trivial, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Lost item charged, but if returned not credited to patron
16:54 schuster        bug 4379
16:54 schuster        Posting another bug dealing with lost books and returns...  This may have to be on our development list to get cleaned up...  ugly...
16:53 munin           indradg: The current temperature in Jaipur, India is 33.0�C (10:00 PM IST on April 08, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 16%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
16:53 indradg         @wunder jaipur
16:33 slef            I was going to say that I was quite impressed with bambuser.com but joetho is gone.
16:20 joetho          I am on the front row of course, heh heh heh
16:20 joetho          whew I will post a little vid of wizzyrea doing her lightningfast presentation a little later
16:17 slef            that's what they all say at first
16:17 joetho          just visiting!
16:16 slef            hello wizzyrea_split_personality
16:16 wizzyrea_preso  hi peeps :)
16:15 slef            http://contribs.koha.org/ is till up and updated it seems
16:15 cm              yeah, possibly.  but a lot of what's there is for dev_week.
16:14 slef            Would it be good to link koha-tools from http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ ?
16:14 cm              looks like the version in the repo is 2 years old.  i'll ask him to update it.
16:12 cm              if not, i can heckle him.  :)
16:12 cm              it works pretty well.  he's updated it a bit for our upgrade to 3.2, but I don't know if he's committed that version to koha-tools yet.  it's handy for moving stuff around.
16:10 slef            ah, that might be worth a look... I know using MARC::* directly didn't look particularly elegant
16:09 cm              nope.  we use the SimpleMARC pm that kyle wrote & included in koha-tools.
16:08 slef            cm: ta
16:08 cm              lemme look.
16:07 cm              most of our libraries get records from one or more vendors
16:07 slef            cm: moving them around using MARC::* modules directly?
16:07 gmcharlt        slef: dunno; certainly could reworded to give the correct info that Koha-the-software can support a variety of MARC formats, but not that Koha-a-particular-database-instance-thereof can
16:07 cm              i haven't quite decided how to do it yet on 3.2.
16:07 cm              on our dev_week install we have a preimport script that moves fields around and then imports them with bulkmarcimport.
16:06 slef            cm: I think we're pondering converting to MARCXML and using XSLT as one option.  How do you do it?
16:05 slef            Is that how people would understand "multi-MARC"?  Sounds like we're claiming multiple MARCs in a Koha to me.
16:05 cm              i think so.  that's what we've been doing.  i wish there was a pre-import templating system for the batch import tool to tell koha what data goes into which fields.
16:05 gmcharlt        at least not without rather a lot of hackery to get things consistently indexed
16:04 gmcharlt        but not in the sense that vastly different MARC encodings could currently live in the same database
16:04 gmcharlt        it's compliant in the sense that one Koha datbase could use UNIMARC, another MARC21, etc.
16:04 slef            Is the "Koha is multi-MARC compliant" line in the online help still accurate?
16:03 slef            so basically we have no option except remapping MARC records as they come in to all follow the same mapping?
16:03 gmcharlt        would be a way to help tie them to the overall MARC framework structure
16:03 gmcharlt        getting indexing definitions stored in the database and generating Zebra config files from that
16:02 gmcharlt        cm: no, there's no direct connection
16:01 cm              i bet it doesn't
16:01 slef            that is my worry
16:00 cm              what about zebra indexing?  does that refer to the frameworks?
15:59 slef            I am wondering if it will help a library use MARC records from two different sources with koha fields in slightly different tag subfields.
15:51 slef            hdl_laptop: why should not?
15:48 hdl_laptop      slef: you should not use a different mapping for different frameworks alsthough you could
15:42 slef            oh it's OK, I have a backup
15:41 wizzyrea_laptop bbl, gotta go do a presentation at KLA conference.
15:39 slef            Interesting in the online help "# Koha link : very important. Koha is multi-MARC compliant. [...] When the user want to search on "title", this link is used to find what is searched (245 if you're MARC21, 200 if you're UNIMARC)."
15:38 * chris_n       encourages slef to back up at all costs
15:38 cm              bye, kf.  :)
15:38 kf              bye #koha
15:38 kf              slef: good luck .)
15:36 * slef          tries on our test server... which I really shouldn't do because I don't think I've backed up the database recently
15:34 chris_n         slef: cat eq catalog... I hope... ;)
15:34 slef            so have we... I wonder if it will kill my cat if I do it the other way
15:32 kf              I always use koha-to-marc-mapping page
15:32 kf              I always thought its the same everywhere when I change it - but did not test it
15:32 kf              hm
15:31 slef            ok, I think this is final question: "Koha to MARC mapping - Define the mapping between the Koha transactional database (SQL) and the MARC Bibliographic records. Note that the mapping can be defined through MARC Bibliographic Framework." so can we define different Koha to MARC mappings for different frameworks?
15:30 slef            yes
15:30 owen            What's a cataloguer question slef? The purpose of frameworks?
15:29 wizzyrea_laptop (along the way, that is. Not so much lately)
15:29 slef            and with my memory, I remember none of them!
15:29 wizzyrea_laptop :)
15:29 wizzyrea_laptop <.<
15:29 wizzyrea_laptop we've been told lots of things that may or may not be true >.>
15:29 wizzyrea_laptop ah it's ok :)
15:29 cm              yeah, i don't think it's fully implemented for display.  it just uses the default framework, IIRC.
15:29 slef            sorry for highlighting wizzyrea_laptop's misunderstanding :)
15:28 slef            I think this is a cataloguer question rather than one for us programmers, isn't it?  I don't think I should answer "back to library school" to the client though ;-)
15:28 wizzyrea_laptop oh, I thought it did. I misunderstood.
15:28 owen            It doesn't
15:28 slef            OPAC records display
15:28 wizzyrea_laptop brendan about?
15:28 slef            great, thanks.  How does it affect OPAC records?
15:26 cm              yep, that's how we use them too.
15:26 owen            ^^ what wizzyrea_laptop said
15:26 wizzyrea_laptop use the fast add framework
15:26 wizzyrea_laptop so say you have an ILL, and you don't want a big long record
15:25 wizzyrea_laptop ^^ what owen said
15:25 wizzyrea_laptop I think at a basic level it's so we can define what shows in the OPAC records/what gets entered at cataloging time?
15:25 owen            We use different frameworks so that different catalogers don't have to filter through tags which aren't relevant to the type of material they're working with
15:24 slef            aha, http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x3614#AEN3617 has a bit more, but still not a great answer
15:24 slef            Would anyone be so kind as to remind me why we have frameworks?  Some days it's the fundamental questions which stump me and http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/administration/catalog-administration/marc-bibliographic-frameworks doesn't really explain it.
15:22 cm              at least March is over.  :)  But isn't april the cruelest month?
15:21 slef            I'm feeling crazy too.  It's been a mad March for me.
15:20 cm              hi slef
15:20 slef            hi all
15:20 cm              i could have sworn it included all results at one point, though.  /me is feeling crazy.
15:18 munin           04Bug 3154: major, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, OPAC Search refining by facets is wrong
15:18 cm              well, there's this:  http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3154
15:15 kf              it would be really nice to see facets working for all pages
15:13 juan            we are investigating and testing pazpar2 in koha to generate facets to all the pages, not only for the first one
15:11 kf              because the facets only show for the first page
15:10 kf              I thought I read about planned improvements for facetted search somewhere
15:09 juan            but i think it is not what you are searching
15:08 juan            you can ask me something about our facets management
15:08 juan            I work in Xercode
15:07 juan            hi
15:05 kf              but its not what I had in mind hm.
15:04 kf              found something: http://old.nabble.com/Xercode-presentation-td27766418.html
15:04 cm              i'm using marcxml, if that makes any difference.  reindexing now.  it'll be quite a while before it's done.
14:59 kf              ok, forget what I said, i will do some searching until I remember
14:55 cm              i definitely know what you mean.
14:54 kf              perhaps im completely wrong, there is just something in the back of my mind ... hmm i hate this feeling
14:53 jdavidb         kf:  that's a new one on me, if so.  jwagner might know something about that.
14:53 cm              cross your fingers!
14:53 hdl_laptop      i.e. processed data from icu or charmaps
14:53 cm              perhaps i'll do a fresh reindex just to be sure.
14:53 hdl_laptop      And not on pure data
14:53 hdl_laptop      cm: zebra facets are based on indexed data
14:52 kf              hm I thought that ptfs had a bug for this with sponsored improvements, but not sure
14:52 cm              i noticed it a while ago and thought we did something to break it on our test install, but we reverted to the original and it was still that way.  :P
14:52 hdl_laptop      Nope problem with zebra facets and diacritics
14:51 * owen          can't remember
14:51 owen            Is it performance-related?
14:51 owen            Perhaps better called a compromise?
14:51 kf              ok, pehaps it is a bug... :)
14:51 cm              i could have sworn it was fixed.
14:51 kf              cm: its not a bug, its how it is
14:50 hdl_laptop      It is not only 3.2 related
14:50 cm              indeed!
14:50 hdl_laptop      hi
14:50 hdl_laptop      cm *sigh
14:50 wizzyrea_laptop :)
14:50 cm              morning, wizzyrea_laptop.  :)
14:49 cm              i'm having a problem with facets on 3.2--they're only showing facets for the current page's results for me.  can anyone else confirm this?
14:49 wizzyrea_laptop mornin
14:48 cm              hi #koha
14:34 CGI904          hi
14:33 kf              hm http://spedr.com/47s8g - has no bug in bugzilla, but a patch was submitted. Does it make sense to add it to bugzilla too? its kind of a blocker, you cant use search functions when adding subscriptions.
14:05 sekjal          ::nom nom nom::
14:04 owen            The hazards of working from home...
14:04 * sekjal        just remembered that he has a bunch of Easter cookies in the kitchen!
14:04 kf              :)
14:03 magnus_         it's a good thing it's usually around dinner-time here by the time you US-ians start talking about cookies...
13:53 jwagner         Gotta head out for an appointment (and maybe a second breakfast :-) ) -- see you later.
13:50 jdavidb         hm..  makes notes to self to remember to internationalize the recipe before making as gift for non-US-ians.
13:46 * kf            is now hungry too
13:43 jdavidb         I've also done it with my muffin mix; add milk, egg, and a banana...
13:42 kf              im not good at cookies, I normally do cakes :)
13:41 jdavidb         I've done that with my recipe before, kf.  it makes a nice gift for folks.
13:40 kf              http://spedr.com/5vd9k <- cookie mixes in jars
13:39 * kf            likes that idea
13:39 kf              :)
13:39 jdavidb         (!)  schuster, you triggered an idea.  Could put my mix in a jar, ship that.  just add liquids, mix, n bake.  :)
13:39 * jwagner       is hungry now....
13:38 schuster        send them to a website they could get full from... ;)
13:38 * jdavidb       would send kf some cookies, but is unsure how well shipping them would work.
13:37 kf              coookieess...
13:35 * jdavidb       is thinking of baking up something yummy for our group next week.
13:34 jwagner         Now, if we could figure out some way to get me to Kohacon, and if NZ didn't confiscate cookies at the border, maybe....
13:33 jwagner         Harrumph.
13:33 owen            Cookies must be distributed widely if we're to have an objective view.
13:33 jdavidb         :D  and she *does*, owen.
13:33 owen            jdavidb: Your opinion is suspect because jwagner is in a position to bribe you with cookies.
13:32 * jwagner       says that's MY cover story :-)
13:32 * jdavidb       thinks jwagner is about as sweet n wonderful as they get.  (Disclaimer:  biased.)
13:32 * jwagner       grumbles appropriately
13:31 * jdavidb       was never Curmudgeon-in-chief; that's jwagner's cover story.
13:26 owen            Thanks gmcharlt
13:26 jwagner         gmcharlt, I surrender it cheerfully (if that isn't out of character) :-)
13:25 ebegin          good morning all
13:25 gmcharlt        owen: makes perfect sense
13:24 * gmcharlt      steals the title of Curmudgeon-in-chief from jdavidb and jwagner ;)
13:24 schuster        gmcharlt - after reading some of those patch comments yesterday on Patches(or maybe the day before, I'm really busy and trying to keep up with email) I know why you are the RM!
13:14 owen            Any opinion on whether that is a sensible way to do it? I'm just trying to figure out the best workflow
13:11 hdl_laptop      owen: you could
13:08 owen            Can I create branches in my local clone and push them to the live system as branches alongside the official in-production branch?
13:08 owen            I'm thinking I set up my existing in-production project as a repo, and clone that locally
13:07 owen            Anyone up for a general git question? I want to track a (non-Koha) web development project with git
12:33 * jdavidb       misses pianohacker. :(
12:32 magnus          that could sound a bit ominous...
12:31 munin           jdavidb: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 0 days, 17 hours, 21 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <pianohacker> that's all :)
12:31 jdavidb         @seen pianohacker
12:31 munin           jdavidb: pianohackr|work was last seen in #koha 5 weeks, 1 day, 11 hours, 20 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <pianohackr|work> parents keep _threatening_ to break an arm, but I think they're kidding
12:31 jdavidb         @seen pianohackr|work
12:31 jwagner         He hasn't been on in a long time.  School work?
12:31 owen            Anyone seen pianohacker lately?
12:30 munin           jwagner: Quote #36: "<pianohacker> first, burn the perl book" (added by jdavidb at 03:12 PM, September 25, 2009)
12:30 jwagner         @quote random
12:20 kf              :)
12:17 * jwagner       suggests an IV :-)
12:15 * jdavidb       grumbles about wrong windows, and goes to get more caffeine.
12:15 hdl_laptop      hi all
12:12 jdavidb         the new ptfs demo server is loaded up with the data from dev2, ready for you to do any last-minute tinkerin'.  When you've got it like you want, I'll snapshot that for keepers.
12:03 jwagner         Morning, all
12:02 magnus          g'day, jdavidb
12:00 jdavidb         g'mornin, #koha.
08:11 CGI369          i am done installing but when i access servername:8080 i cannot establish connection
08:09 CGI369          can i ask for help in setting up koha?
08:08 CGI369          good day
08:08 CGI369          hi
07:50 magnus          hi audun
07:30 kf              hi Ropuch
07:29 Ropuch          Good morning kf
07:27 kf              good morning #koha
06:48 magnus          hi Ropuch
06:48 Ropuch          Hi magnus
06:45 magnus          g'day #koha!
06:07 Ropuch          Morning #koha
03:39 Amit_G          hi all
03:30 Jo              chris: are you about?
02:08 wajasu          ok.
02:07 chris           send a patch with the change to the template and there will be
02:06 wajasu          i wish there was some html content (even if it is display:none by default) in the div for the search logo and search box.  then I could do a CSS style and add my square logo,  with library name as large test above the searchbox.  Wiithout messing with the header div above, thus using lest screen realestate at the top of my page.
02:04 chris           they are pushed when they have been tested
02:04 chris           yes
02:03 wajasu          i ran from git, the trie dpulling a week or 2 later. i did not see any changes.  is that because the RM doesn't push patches but every week or two?
02:00 chris           yes
02:00 wajasu          is that in koha git?
01:53 chris           the RM just pushed a big pile of patches yesterday
01:53 chris           alpha2 in the next week, id wait for that
01:53 wajasu          gonna do an install of the koha alpha. is there an impending beta coming inthe next week, and I'll wait.