Time  Nick        Message
22:01 lbucaro     #koha
22:00 lbucaro     irc.katipo.co.nz
21:00 chris       yup
20:59 wizzyrea    the public shaming aspect of that is especially choice
20:59 wizzyrea    snizzle!
20:59 wizzyrea    oh yea I saw that
20:58 chris       oh interesting email from amy schuler
20:57 chris       heh
20:55 chris_n     bbl
20:54 * chris_n   stops spamming the channel and goes home
20:54 munin`      chris_n: "Quit teasing your little brother" [syn: {discontinue}, {stop}, {cease}, {give up}, {lay off}] [ant: {continue}] 2: give up or retire from a position; "The Secretary fo the Navy will leave office next month"; "The chairman resigned over the financial scandal" [syn: {leave office}, {step down}, {resign}] [ant: {take office}] 3: go away or leave [syn: {depart}, {take leave}] [ant: {stay}] 4: turn away (11 more messages)
20:54 chris_n     @more
20:54 munin`      chris_n: --Ex. xxi. 28. [1913 Webster] Note: This word is sometimes used in the form quits, colloquially; as, to be quits with one, that is, to have made mutual satisfaction of demands with him; to be even with him; hence, as an exclamation: Quits! we are even, or on equal terms. "To cry quits with the commons in their complaints." --Fuller. [1913 Webster]; wn: quit v 1: put an end to a state or an activity; (12 more messages)
20:54 chris_n     @more
20:54 munin`      chris_n: of several species of small tropical American birds of the family {C[oe]rebid[ae]}, allied to the creepers; -- called also {quit}. See {Quit}. [1913 Webster] gulae; gcide: Quit \Quit\ (kw[i^]t), a. [OE. quite, OF. quite, F. quitte. See {Quit}, v., {Quiet}.] Released from obligation, charge, penalty, etc.; free; clear; absolved; acquitted. --Chaucer. [1913 Webster] The owner of the ox shall be quit. (13 more messages)
20:54 chris_n     @more
20:54 wizzyrea    lol, the guitquit
20:53 munin`      chris_n: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Quit \Quit\, v. i. To go away; to depart; to stop doing a thing; to cease. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Quit \Quit\ (kw[i^]t), n. (Zool.) Any one of numerous species of small passerine birds native of tropical America. See {Banana quit}, under {Banana}, and {Guitguit}. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Guitguit \Guit"guit`\, n. [So called from its note.] (Zool.) One (14 more messages)
20:53 chris_n     @dict quit
20:53 * wizzyrea  dreams of quitting time
20:53 chris_n     and its Friday as well
20:53 chris_n     man, its past quitting time
20:52 chris_n     probably some of both :)
20:52 * chris_n   thinks many things are lacking in the circ rules, but hdl_laptop assures me there is a major fix/improvement in the offing
20:52 wizzyrea    it's both baroque (old) and baroquen (broken)
20:52 wizzyrea    I like the usage of the term baroque in that
20:51 chris_n     colin's comment may be correct, but kyle's patch should be applied in the meantime
20:51 wizzyrea    i win the internet. :D
20:51 chris_n     yup
20:50 wizzyrea    the 2nd, not the first
20:50 * chris_n   looks
20:50 wizzyrea    chris_n was that the bug?
20:49 chris_n     the "random" script could also handle timezone call routing
20:49 chris       youd have to build in some knowledge about that
20:49 chris_n     a few asterisk servers in the proper locations
20:49 chris       timezones would kinda suck
20:49 * chris_n   thinks there are sufficient voip solutions to take care of that
20:48 wizzyrea    not sure how it would work with overseas vendors
20:48 chris_n     yup
20:48 wizzyrea    or you all take a week
20:48 wizzyrea    ez to do with google voice
20:48 wizzyrea    that's actually quite brilliant
20:48 * chris_n   tries to put the lid back on the can of worms now
20:48 wizzyrea    ...
20:48 chris       heh
20:48 chris_n     we could have a pay-per-incident phone support section of the site which randomly chooses a vendor
20:47 munin`      04Bug 4123: critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Error in checking whether a checkout can be renewed
20:47 wizzyrea    http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4123
20:47 wizzyrea    but it might be this one
20:46 munin`      04Bug 3785: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, ASSIGNED, New Install, no maxreserves setting, OPAC holds fail
20:46 wizzyrea    http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3785
20:46 wizzyrea    chris_n I was thinking of this bug, which isn't quite the same
20:45 * wizzyrea  just gave up her million dollar idea.
20:45 wizzyrea    so I suppose the precedent for community help over the phone is there
20:44 wizzyrea    that you can call
20:44 wizzyrea    interestingly, there is a staffed wordpress pay-per-incident help line
20:44 wizzyrea    !! is that something on the mailing list?
20:41 * chris_n   finds it interesting that people now expect phone support from the community
20:37 chris_n     wizzyrea: if you find it, let me know, 'cause I fixed it :)
19:29 wizzyrea    gerg, bugs.koha.org = slow
19:29 wizzyrea    er, chris_n
19:28 wizzyrea    lemme look
19:28 wizzyrea    chris: I thought there was one
19:27 wizzyrea    oh sure
19:16 rhcl        wizzyrea: would it be appropriate to have a link to the chat archives on koha-community.org???
18:54 chris_n     hmm... it appears to be a busted SQL statement
18:51 chris_n     wizzyrea: is there a bug open for the failure of the default rule to apply?
18:18 chris_n     interesting... even with a specific rule, C4::Circulation->CanBookBeRenewed() fails to find a matching rule
18:05 * chris_n   admonishes munin` to be more kind like his nemesis munin
18:05 chris_n     poor owen
18:04 * owen      wonders how he got on munin` 's bad side
18:04 * owen      notices from the log that munin` didn't pass on a message chris_n left for him
18:04 wizzyrea    gl ;)
18:04 wizzyrea    oh dear lol
18:04 * chris_n   now has the privilege of being both a dev and user :P
18:04 wizzyrea    try adding a rule for your itype and see ... yea
18:04 chris_n     I'll create a rule for that itype and see if that fixes it
18:04 wizzyrea    like they weren't always applied
18:03 wizzyrea    it's tickling my mind
18:03 wizzyrea    there was a thing about the default rules
18:03 * chris_n   wonders if the rules code works correctly :(
18:03 wizzyrea    something is tickling..
18:03 chris_n     so shouldn't the default apply?
18:03 chris_n     wizzyrea: well, this is the default rule and there is no rule for that itype
18:02 wizzyrea    oh that suuuuucks
18:02 nengard     wizzyrea a sinus infection - a bad one
18:02 wizzyrea    erm, wrong itype?
18:02 * chris_n   thinks we ought to report which rule is being applied to result in a failed renewal
18:01 chris_n     so if I have a circ rule which allows two renewals for a given patron category, why would the renew column on the circ page show no renewals allowed?
17:58 wizzyrea    :( do they know what triggered it?
17:57 nengard     it's just an acute asthma attack that my lungs aren't jumping back from
17:57 nengard     that they've known all this time
17:57 nengard     yeah - asthma
17:54 wizzyrea    do they know what's wrong?
17:54 wizzyrea    oh nm just saw your tweet
17:54 nengard     doc just left - i'm stuck here another night
17:54 nengard     yes
17:54 wizzyrea    nengard, still in the hospital?
17:53 chris_n     wb nengard
17:16 * jwagner   's eyes are blurring -- I just read that as channel surfing to maintain cops....
17:16 chris_n     we need a channel server on the same box to maintain ops
17:02 wizzyrea    or bounce the server
17:02 wizzyrea    well we'd have to kick everyone out to re-establish ops
16:58 owen        Not to mention channel ops?
16:53 wizzyrea    (gentle prod about koha-community dns)
16:53 wizzyrea    Si still on holiday?
16:50 brendan     hey chris_n
16:50 chris_n     heya brendan
16:20 wizzyrea    I like the new jquery site... comments on the documentation pages are really helpful
15:55 jwagner     And with all that, I think I'll go get some lunch...
15:50 jwagner     It's getting there
15:50 owen        From what I hear that's halfway to a donut sandwich itself
15:49 jwagner     I normally hate fastfood breakfasts, but I've developed a shameful craving for McDonalds -- bacon, egg, & cheese McGriddle (pancake) sandwich.
15:48 chris_n     now I'm hungry... again :)
15:46 owen        Why not add hash browns?
15:46 chris_n     so we have a bacon-egg-cheese donut?
15:46 * chris_n   is careful to keep eggs and coffee separate while introducing them into his digestive tract
15:46 jwagner     Hmmmm....  The idea has a certain attraction.....
15:46 owen        You're making it too complicated. Everything goes on the donut. The coffee stays separate.
15:45 jwagner     (Not that I personally eat any of that for breakfast.)
15:45 jwagner     Just trying to reduce the Great American Breakfast to the smallest number of components.  Donut+Bacon, Eggs+Coffee, etc.
15:43 owen        jwagner: Boy, you lost me there!
15:43 jwagner     Now all we need is some mixture of eggs and coffee....
15:42 owen        Spreading the bacon donut gospel eh rhcl? Good man.
15:36 rhcl        ignore previous, wrong channel
15:35 rhcl        http://blogs.liblime.com/developers/2008/03/31/koha-the-bacon-donut-ils/
15:35 rhcl        BTW, this is a good, Linux-based food item for your staff days.
15:21 wizzyrea    i.e. never
15:21 wizzyrea    "bacon donuts are a sometimes food"
15:20 chris_n     lol :)
15:20 wizzyrea    haha
15:18 gmcharlt    wizzyrea: I had to visit a cardiologist after just looking at the picure, so no ;)
15:17 wizzyrea    did you get to have one of these monstrosities gmcharlt?
15:17 wizzyrea    good old atz
15:16 jwagner     Now I'm HUNGRY!!!!!!!!
15:08 gmcharlt    jwagner: http://blogs.liblime.com/developers/2008/03/31/koha-the-bacon-donut-ils/
15:08 * chris_n   asks gmcharlt to pass another bacon donut and some coffee his way
15:06 jwagner     bacon donuts????
15:05 gmcharlt    and bacon donuts
15:05 gmcharlt    owen: the public library association meeting
15:05 owen        What's in Portland gmcharlt, besides you?
15:02 * jwagner   also everyone in Portland
15:02 * jwagner   waves at everyone in general
15:01 * chris_n   waves back
15:01 * gmcharlt  waves at #koha from Portland
14:41 magnus      g'day folks - geography is fun!
14:32 * owen      forgets how far east South America goes!
14:31 bgkriegel   11:30
14:31 bgkriegel   Cordoba
14:31 bgkriegel   Argentina
14:30 owen        Where are you bgkriegel?
14:30 wizzyrea    well it's 9:30 here, so mid-morning technically
14:30 bgkriegel   :)
14:30 wizzyrea    ;)
14:30 wizzyrea    er, good day?
14:30 bgkriegel   morning liz, almost noon here
14:27 wizzyrea    good morning
13:57 schuster    Pretty good, just really busy and my boss is concerned about lots of stuff so micromanaging.
13:56 owen        Hi schuster how's it going?
13:24 * chris_n   waits for FF to recovery from its weekly crash :-Z
12:48 hilongo     paul_p: Ok.... sorry to interrupt!  :)
12:47 paul_p      hilongo, i'm at a meeting with a customer, sorry but can't answer
12:47 hilongo     paul_p: Hello Paul ... I have a little question about diacritics... :)
12:45 hilongo     Ah! ... the technology ....  :)
12:45 AndChat|    Now I'm gonna get my laptop cause its easier
12:42 chris_n     so I'm assuming it is the real you
12:42 chris_n     plus whois shows your real name :)
12:41 chris_n     yup, your standard nick was in your hostname when you came on channel
12:40 AndChat|    But u know its me
12:40 * jwagner   really has to run for a meeting -- hope you feel better soon.
12:40 chris_n     double harrumph!
12:40 AndChat|    And nick didn't work
12:40 * jwagner   ducks and runs for cover!
12:40 chris_n     lol
12:40 AndChat|    No rest here
12:40 AndChat|    I'm hyped up on steroids
12:39 jwagner     I know -- I've spent too much time there myself lately, with more to come.  However....
12:39 chris_n     jwagner: play helps recovery
12:39 AndChat|    Jwagner there is no peace in hospitals
12:39 jwagner     Harrumph!
12:39 chris_n     do the /nick thing
12:39 chris_n     not working :)
12:39 chris_n     she's playing
12:39 AndChat|    Says I'm andchat.. not nengard
12:38 jwagner     nengard, aren't you supposed to be resting and recovering in your nice peaceful hospital bed?  Quit working!!!
12:38 chris_n     cool
12:38 AndChat|    Y
12:38 AndChat|    Or irc
12:38 chris_n     andriod?
12:38 AndChat|    Nengard on mobile itch
12:37 chris_n     hi nengard
12:37 AndChat|    Woo hoo
12:37 munin`      chris_n: The operation succeeded.
12:37 chris_n     @later tell owen: I got the ajax version of DataTable working in my app; I'm going to do some testing and then plan to workup a test branch to test it in Koha
12:36 hilongo     Hello #Koha :)
12:25 nicomophone With that...
12:25 nicomophone Dumb machine
12:24 nicomophone My phone thinks it's clever : changes "fast" into "restau"
12:23 nicomophone Arf
12:23 nicomophone Not Very restau though
12:22 nicomophone :)
12:22 nicomophone Indeed
12:21 magnus      nicomophone: seems to be working! ;-)
12:21 nicomophone Testing AndChat on android for nengard
12:10 munin`      chris: The operation succeeded.
12:10 chris       @later tell jransom no, its more than just americans its more europeans too
11:54 chris_n     g'morning #koha
11:42 munin`      kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0�C (4:40 PM IST on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
11:42 kmkale      @weather Mumbai
10:50 kmkale      thanks
10:42 * chris_n   heads off to find breakfast
10:42 chris_n     Zebra is the preferred way to run even if you are small
10:42 chris_n     although noZebra is rapidly becoming depricated
10:41 chris_n     but that is just a guess; there may be others around later who could say more certainly
10:41 chris_n     so I'd guess it is a corrupt bib or bibs
10:40 chris_n     or after modifying a bib
10:40 kmkale      its under that indexed block
10:39 chris_n     it looks like part of a delete operation
10:39 kmkale      will it be the particular biblio I am trying to circulate?
10:39 chris_n     2801: unless ($result{'__RAW__'}->{$_} =~ /$biblionumber,$title\-(\d);/) {
10:38 chris_n     kmkale: it would appear a record or records is/are missing either a biblionumber or title
10:35 chris_n     heya Jo
10:34 chris_n     it may or may not be the reason for the slowness
10:34 chris_n     kmkale_: that error means that there is probably a variable which is undefined in the regexp matching pattern used at that line
10:29 kmkale_     circulation module is very slow as compared to other work in staff client
10:29 kmkale_     hi all I am seeing a lot of these errors in koha-error_log koha version no Zebra perl 5.010000 on ubuntu 9.10
10:28 kmkale_     guyz any help with this?
10:28 kmkale_     [Fri Mar 26 15:50:29 2010] [error] [client] [Fri Mar 26 15:50:29 2010] circulation.pl: Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2801., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl
10:16 munin`      chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 15.0�C (6:13 AM EDT on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.26 in 990.7 hPa (Falling).
10:16 chris_n     @wunder 28334
09:07 jransom     and thinking maybe we just hire 4 seater cars and self drive ... NZ would be like a country drive compared to Paris I am sure :)
09:05 jransom     busy trying to price out the KohaCon road trip from Auckland to Wellington. Wondering if its only Americans who drive on the wrong side of the road
09:03 jransom     Chris: are you about by any chance?
09:03 magnus      i must confess i'd rather have 0 °C than 37...
09:03 jransom     Amit: are you coming down to Koha Con
09:02 magnus      wow, that's hot
09:01 munin`      Amit_G: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 29.0�C (11:30 AM IST on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 18.0�C.
09:01 Amit_G      @wunder Bangalore, India
09:01 munin`      Amit_G: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 32.0�C (11:30 AM IST on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa.
09:01 Amit_G      @wunder Dehradun, India
09:01 munin`      Amit_G: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 37.0�C (2:00 PM IST on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Unknown. Humidity: 16%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling).
09:01 Amit_G      @wunder New Delhi, India
09:00 jransom     hi everyone
09:00 kmkale      hi amit
09:00 munin`      magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (9:50 AM CET on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
09:00 magnus      @wunder bodo, norway
09:00 magnus      hiya Amit_G
09:00 Amit_G      heya kmkale, jransom, magnus
08:56 magnus      g'day #koha!
08:54 jransom     Hiya Paul
07:48 kmkale      any ideas?
07:48 kmkale      circulation module is very slow as compared to other work in staff client
07:48 kmkale      [Fri Mar 26 13:02:47 2010] [error] [client] [Fri Mar 26 13:02:47 2010] circulation.pl: Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2801., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl?findborrower=2AG09CV043
07:47 kmkale      hi all I am seeing a lot of following errors in koha-error_log koha version no Zebra perl 5.010000 on ubuntu 9.10
03:45 CGI341      i r new heyar
03:45 CGI341      hay guise
03:36 Amit_G      heya brendan, chris
03:36 Amit_G      hi all
00:23 jmill2010   reading though...
00:23 jmill2010   :P
00:23 jmill2010   problem is i don't even know what sql is
00:21 jmill2010   thanks very much :)
00:21 chris       http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=sql_library
00:20 chris       ppl have written lots of good reports you can cut and paste into to the create report from sql bit
00:20 jmill2010   for stats i need to set up the stats wizard, am i right
00:18 jmill2010   awesome
00:18 jmill2010   right
00:17 chris       you just need to set them up with the same policies
00:17 chris       yep, you can do anythin you like :)
00:17 jmill2010   for example i've create a Student category... Can I instead create one for Graduate Students and another for Undergrad Students, just for stat purposes (as they would have the same permissions)?
00:16 chris       how do you mean?
00:15 jmill2010   besides circ policy purposes
00:15 jmill2010   can patron categories be created for statistical purposes also?
00:14 jmill2010   hi all
00:14 jmill2010   hi