Time Nick Message 23:16 chris_n off to fix that problem ;-) 23:16 * chris_n wonders why he is inside on such a beautiful evening 23:16 munin` chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 17.6�C (7:14 PM EDT on March 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 13%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 997.9 hPa (Rising). 23:16 chris_n @wunder 28334 22:22 chris moodaepo: yep, cant do a thing about it currently 22:03 munin` moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 14.3�C (5:02 PM CDT on March 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising). 22:03 moodaepo @weather 56001 22:02 moodaepo I'm a fan of this type of header > "Official Koha Channel | http://koha-community.org/ | 3.0.5 & 3.2 Alpha | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ | Large Pastes @ http://paste.workbuffer.org/" 22:01 pastebot "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "see" (1 line) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/25 22:01 wizzyrea ok... off to get my kiddo. ttyl :) 22:01 * larsw sees alohabot 22:00 chris paste.workbuffer.org has a bot associated 22:00 wizzyrea one minute! 22:00 wizzyrea nah 22:00 chris nope 22:00 larsw shouldn't matter which pastebin one users, though? 22:00 chris or you can use koha.pastebin.com 22:00 chris yep theres that 21:59 * wizzyrea is feeling kind of dumb today 21:59 wizzyrea i think that's the URL anyway 21:59 wizzyrea ah, there is paste.workbuffer.org that ppls use 21:59 larsw this is all very democratic now 21:59 moodaepo Is there a official Koha pastebin type site? Or one that is usually used? 21:59 wizzyrea and we can't kick anybody... because we don't have ops! 21:58 larsw freenode has a chanserv, this network does not seem to have one 21:58 wizzyrea ^.^ 21:58 chris well to do that we need ops ;) 21:58 wizzyrea we need to op a bot 21:58 chris yeah cos there is a bot running to do that 21:58 wizzyrea but not this one, apparently 21:58 wizzyrea what he said 21:57 wizzyrea on freenode if you are the owner of the channel you can op yourself 21:57 larsw some irc networks have chanserv, which takes care of keeping channels and op status alive 21:57 moodaepo ok who is lying to the nooob? 21:57 chris before opping anyone else 21:57 chris its the way irc works, you cant op someone if you aren't an op, and the last op disconnected 21:57 larsw I don't know how things work here, I do know that's how it works (or worked years ago) on the original ircnet 21:57 wizzyrea that is certainly one way to do it 21:57 wizzyrea :) 21:57 moodaepo larsw: really! no way 21:57 wizzyrea bogus. lol 21:56 CGI018 till next time 21:56 CGI018 certainly 21:56 larsw chris tells me no one is an op, and the way to get someone to become an op is for everyone to leave and then someone to re-create the channel 21:56 wizzyrea sure thing. Pop back again sometime and let us know how it works out :) 21:56 wizzyrea one caveat about k-c: not all of the content has been moved, it's still in process, or being reworked, or... but koha-community.org is the site that is and will be maintained 21:56 CGI018 thanks for your help, wizzyrea 21:54 wizzyrea ;) 21:54 wizzyrea that lets you choose your nick 21:54 wizzyrea k-c has a nicer IRC interface, as well 21:54 wizzyrea afaik the only ones who have it work at katipo 21:54 wizzyrea there aren't any ops online right now 21:53 CGI018 i'll bookmark it now 21:53 CGI018 oh boy thanks for that info 21:52 moodaepo Do you know who does? gmcharlt? 21:52 wizzyrea but you probably want to tell any 'CGIXXX' users that they are looking at the wrong site 21:51 moodaepo man I need to learn to type looking at the screen! 21:51 moodaepo ah so you don't : ( 21:51 wizzyrea I do not :( 21:51 * moodaepo wonders if wizzyrea has that access : ) 21:51 wizzyrea someone would have to have operator to do that :( 21:50 moodaepo wizzyrea: someone should add that link to irc welcome banner! 21:50 wizzyrea it's the one that's actually up to date 21:50 wizzyrea and so you know, the real official koha site is at koha-community.org 21:49 wizzyrea but not with LDAP 21:49 wizzyrea I have done it, yes 21:49 CGI018 did you configure your koha ils yourself? 21:49 wizzyrea hard to say 21:49 wizzyrea but, academics... mayb eyou are 21:48 CGI018 tiny academic 21:48 wizzyrea then no, you probably aren't running it 21:48 CGI018 tiny 21:48 wizzyrea how big is your library? 21:48 CGI018 thanks, i've made a note to ask the IT people just in case 21:48 wizzyrea i would not worry about LDAP until you know whether or not you are actually using it 21:46 CGI018 http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/appendices/implementation-checklist 21:46 CGI018 it's part of the koha documentation 21:45 wizzyrea ah 21:45 CGI018 going through checlist and making decisions as i go along 21:45 wizzyrea (and where did you find this checklist, if I may ask) 21:45 wizzyrea or just going through the checklist 21:45 wizzyrea related to logging into the OPAC? 21:45 wizzyrea are you having a specific problem? 21:44 CGI018 ok, i'll have to do that 21:44 wizzyrea I'm guessing (only a guess) that you can ignore this statement 21:44 wizzyrea the IT people, likely 21:44 wizzyrea example: do you have a server somewhere that controls all of your authentication services across your network? 21:44 CGI018 who can i ask 21:44 CGI018 that's the thing 21:44 CGI018 idk 21:44 wizzyrea are you using LDAP for patron authentication? 21:43 CGI018 idk what that really means 21:43 CGI018 i'm going over the Implementation Checklist and under OPAC Config, it says one should turn off OpacPasswordChange if using LADP authentication 21:43 * wizzyrea should mention that she has to go in 20 minutes 21:41 wizzyrea shoot 21:41 CGI018 i have a question right now 21:41 CGI018 thanks, wizzyrea 21:41 CGI018 awesome 21:41 wizzyrea what's up 21:41 * wizzyrea can try to help 21:41 wizzyrea < not an expert, but not really a nub 21:41 CGI018 how new are you, larsw? 21:40 CGI018 where be the experts 21:40 CGI018 geez :) 21:39 larsw I am a newbie myself 21:39 larsw hi there 21:33 CGI018 newbie here :-) 21:33 CGI018 anyone? 21:33 CGI018 hello? 21:32 CGI018 hello? 20:00 wajasu Advanced search --> Location and Availability section 19:59 wajasu i see the "All libraries" option in the advanced search for staff client. lib of congress is enabled in the x3950 servers. how do i get it to query other servers? 19:56 chris the existing Z39.50 search function is just for searching when you are cataloguing items so you can import a catalogue record rather than typing it all in yourself 19:55 chris if you want to search more than one Z39.50 server in something like the opac, you would have to do some work setting up pazpar2 and getting koha to search that (which in turn searches any number of targets) 19:54 chris but you can search them when you are cataloguing 19:54 chris no 19:50 wajasu it seems that if i somehow configure another libraries z3950 server, when i search, can i get their books in the results also? 19:48 wajasu ahh 19:48 chris hence the table being called reserves 19:48 chris in nz ppl call them reserves 19:48 chris yes 19:47 wajasu And my librarian must use the term Reserved, to mean not for loan. 19:46 wajasu so when a person puts a hold on a book, it mean to hold it for them until they come to pick it up. (though the table is called reserves). 19:45 chris yes 19:44 wajasu (i.e. the same?) 19:44 wajasu are reserves holds? 19:43 wajasu i see a table called reserves. should i be somehow getting my imports in there? 19:42 wajasu i don't have a ccode for Reserved. 19:42 wajasu the legacy database i am migrating had some records that are marked as RESERVE. I translated those to notforloan in 952$7. 19:35 chris_n howdy richard 19:34 richard hi 18:39 chris_n hi chris 18:36 chris morning 17:50 chris_n miguel-xercode: I would think that would be a function of whatever reverse proxy one was running 17:35 miguel-xercode not the case, though, too. I refer that in very generic domain like a great institution, to use a proxy through using these types of url. 17:33 * owen has never understood the use of FIXMEs...at least not ones without accompanying bug reports 17:32 * chris_n declines to answer questions about that bit of obfuscation as it was stolen from perlmonks.org 17:31 chris_n hmm... "grep -rhc FIXME * | perl -lpe '${_{_}}+=+${_}}{${_}+=+${_{_}}'" from the root of my repo reports 643 FIXME's 17:26 chris_n miguel-xercode: do you mean run multiple koha installs on a single box? 17:26 gmcharlt owen: only if that script can translate to FIXME notes into something that makes sense ;) 17:26 chris_n owen: nice 17:25 * owen imagines a script that would automatically file a bug for every FIXME in Koha's code 17:24 miguel-xercode its possible use in koha to use a domain by adding /koha1 /koha2 17:21 miguel-xercode one question 17:21 miguel-xercode hi all 17:21 owen Did we improve on LLEK by doubling the hard-coded limit? ;) 17:15 chris_n another LLEK limitation 16:48 wizzyrea erm, unrelated to your issue, wajasu 16:47 wizzyrea </sarcasm> 16:47 wizzyrea man, don't you just love it when you have a problem, and it turns out to be the people, and not the system. 16:47 wizzyrea whew what a relief ;) 16:46 wajasu i found a bug in my program that massages my import marc records. koha is fine. 16:33 wajasu thx 16:33 wajasu no problem. you gave me a lead. 16:29 kf im sorry 16:28 kf its time for me to go home now 16:27 kf perhaps someone else can help you better 16:27 kf REF 16:27 kf you said RED is not in items.ccode 16:27 kf hm not sure - I would look in biblio/biblioitem?.marcxml first 16:26 wajasu you mean the marcxml that gets exported? 16:23 kf koha is case sensitive there - REF and ref might cause problems 16:22 kf hm I think you shoudl find out why it did not get imported as ccode - is it still present in marcxml? 16:17 wajasu i put REF in $c as well when I built my import records. 16:15 * kf got a bit confused while reading marc records 16:13 kf LOC ist for $c 16:13 kf its CCODE 16:13 kf ah sorry 16:13 kf LOC 16:13 kf there the code is saved and a description for the code is in auth value 16:13 wajasu its confusing because I have REF in CCODE, LOC, and itemtypes. 16:13 kf in the database ist items.ccode 16:13 wajasu i thought it was CCODE? 16:12 kf i REF defined in auth value LOC? 16:12 kf value 16:12 kf $8 is an authorized calue 16:11 wajasu and I need to look to zebra indexing (i.e. export...952$8) 16:11 wajasu or is this a field used for nozebra mode? 16:10 wajasu the question is, should i be getting REF in my items.ccode when 952$8 is REF? 16:09 wajasu i looked at the koha to marc mapping and 965$8 looks like its mapped in this default framework. 16:07 * wizzyrea is not an indexing guru, I just know where to look 16:06 wajasu ok 16:06 wajasu to get 952$8 indexed, or to get items.ccode filled in? 16:06 wizzyrea try the 1st marc/koha mapping 16:05 wajasu do I need to set a marc to koha mapping, or make a new framework? 16:05 wajasu i tried advanced search with limit = Reference and no results. 16:04 wajasu when I import with 952$8REF (i.e. ccode=REF), i look in items.ccode and only see null's, FIC and NFIC, but no REF. 16:01 wajasu it worked. 16:01 wizzyrea hehe 16:01 wajasu my zebra is blushing 16:01 wajasu chris_n++ 16:00 wajasu wizzyrea++ 15:39 sekjal yuck 15:39 sekjal but that means I have to give the XSLT a good twice-over, to give the best possible example to build from 15:39 sekjal yeah, I should. 15:38 wizzyrea I'd go ahead and post it 15:38 wizzyrea or download/upload, as the case may be 15:38 wizzyrea ;) 15:38 wizzyrea well re-do = copy/paste 15:37 sekjal I'm late in posting my III migration code I promised at C4L. perhaps I just should post to the existing contribs and redo it if/when we switch 15:37 * jwagner thinks that's better than never changing it at all :-) 15:37 * wizzyrea changes her mind quickly a lot 15:36 wizzyrea that's probably better on the wiki 15:36 wizzyrea er, or not 15:36 wizzyrea and things like the report library 15:36 wizzyrea but I do think contribs would work there 15:36 sekjal okay, cool. 15:36 wizzyrea Si is on holiday 15:36 wizzyrea I'm waiting on DNS for subdomains 15:36 wizzyrea yes, in fact it does seem like it would work there 15:34 sekjal had there been plans discussed for redoing contribs.koha.org using the new site? It seems like the kind of content that WP would manage well 15:33 wizzyrea :) thanks, it's fun and for a good cause. 15:30 sekjal wizzyrea++ . Thanks for all your efforts on the Koha site 15:29 wajasu I'll try that out. Yeah community! 15:29 chris_n seems we are on our way to taming the zebra 15:29 chris_n chris++ #ditto 15:29 wizzyrea >.> I just set up the infrastructure 15:29 wizzyrea chris did it 15:28 chris_n wizzyrea++ #for such excellent work 15:28 wizzyrea see 1 15:27 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 15:26 wajasu something peculiar. i am running out of git (origin), and i load my 16000 records. I search and some show up duplicated in the results. 15:17 sekjal wizzyrea: agreed 15:03 wizzyrea I think the first comment sums it up 15:02 wizzyrea http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/22/1635205/Open-Source-Is-Not-a-Democracy?from=twitter 15:02 wizzyrea oh snap 14:57 munin` wizzyrea_home: The operation succeeded. 14:57 wizzyrea_home @later tell nicomo thanks for fixing the characters in the appendix. HTML generation of the manual seems to work great now. :) 14:56 munin` wizzyrea_home: The operation succeeded. 14:56 wizzyrea_home @later tell nengard squee! 14:50 CGI474 If I am successful then I will get my hand on live data 14:49 CGI474 I am not working on live data so I think I can take chance even if it not works good 14:49 hdl_laptop Be CAREFULL 14:49 hdl_laptop mysql database -u user -ppaswd <file.sql 14:49 CGI474 thanks a lot 14:49 CGI474 ohk let me try 14:48 hdl_laptop mysqldump >file.sql 14:48 hdl_laptop on the first server 14:48 hdl_laptop mysqldump 14:48 CGI474 Hi I want to transfer data from one server to another server. I don't know how to transfer that data. Can anyone please help me with that.. Both the machine have same versions, 14:45 wizzyrea_home (yes, it's still broken atm) 14:45 wizzyrea_home I think this may work now 14:45 wizzyrea_home nengard: images again, but much much better 13:54 kf yep :) 13:54 collum np. I'm not able to look at it again till next week. 13:54 jwagner kf, then you're REALLY done for :-) 13:53 kf jwagner: need to implement links with $w between titles - need to understand marc first, xslt after that... :( 13:51 jwagner collum, I'm not having any luck with the parens problem, and I have to break off to work on other stuff. I can try to come back to it later, but I don't know when, sigh. 13:38 * chris_n takes another guess at erik's problem 13:34 jwagner hdl_laptop, I've been working through some of them. Not too much help, so far. 13:31 hdl_laptop jwagner: there are very good xslt tutorials online 13:21 * jwagner thinks it would help if I knew what I was doing, rather than fumbling with an unfamiliar language and syntax. 13:20 jwagner No, no, escape while you still can!!! 13:18 kf I m starting work on xslt right now - dont make me give up :) 13:18 kf hey 13:18 * jwagner doesn't like it either. 13:16 * collum doesn't like xslt 13:16 collum The escaping looks correct, but I wonder if chopString just removes the last character of a string. 13:15 jwagner collum, I was trying a separate chopParens function initially but had no luck. I'll take another look. The chopBrackets looks like the same syntax, and the brackets aren't escaped -- <xsl:if test="substring($string, 1,1)='['"> 13:13 collum I wonder if you can copy that and change it to chopParens 13:13 collum chopBrackets function in MARC21slimOPACResults.xsl 13:12 collum oops 13:12 collum jwagner: there is a chopBracketsls 13:12 owen And Ed Begley Jr. 13:12 chris_n perhaps with such a change we'd finally see the light of day? 13:12 jwagner Now, see, if we replaced zebra with SOLR, we could make jokes about solar eclipses etc. 13:12 chris_n however, when all is quiet on the western front so to speak, the joke tend to ebb 13:11 chris_n they are long standing actually and tend to flare up when the herd stampedes 13:11 * jwagner thinks we'll find humor whever we can.... 13:11 owen Each of those people has finally reached the stage where Zebra has driven them insane. 13:10 * braedon|home finds it rather perplexing 13:10 braedon|home has no one previously realised "Zebra" is the name of an animal? 13:10 braedon|home both on here, and in the mailing list 13:10 chris_n yes, they are easily spooked :) 13:10 braedon|home what is with all the zebra jokes today? 13:09 * jwagner has visions of herds of zebras running amok 13:08 chris_n it might head off a whole herd of zebra problems 13:08 chris_n the civicrm web installer checks directory permissions and flags those incorrect... that would be nice to implement in the koha web installer 13:07 * chris_n admits that he gave up on the xslt stuff awhile back 13:02 jwagner I was trying to add the parens into that, but it either ignores them completely or thinks they're trying to close the call. I tried escaping them with backslashes \(\) but it ignored that. How to make this section include parens as punctuation to be stripped out? 13:01 jwagner In the chopPunctuation section of MARC21slimUtils.xsl, it has <xsl:when test="contains('.:,;/ ', substring($chopString,$length,1))"> 13:00 munin` 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, "Related subjects" search is OPAC doesn't work with chained subject terms 13:00 jwagner I'm working on Bug 4276, trying to strip out the parens. 12:59 jwagner Any XSLT experts on this morning? 12:35 jdavidb :) 12:34 chris_n jdavidb: bingo :) 12:32 jdavidb no, it would create a branch named commitish, at the current HEAD. what you're probably looking for is 'git checkout -b branchname commitish', I think. 12:27 chris_n doesn't 'git checkout -b committish' create a topic branch at the commit referenced by committish? 12:22 jwagner G'morning chris_n 12:21 chris_n greetings #koha 11:41 kf hi jdavidb 11:40 jdavidb howdy, #koha. 10:14 Willem our koha version is 3.00.01.005 is that what you're asking? 10:12 hdl_laptop Willem: which version ? 09:58 Willem Hi, does anyone know why the following doesn't update the patron info: ModMember( borrowernumber => '503', address => 'My New Address' ); it is run by perl without errors and even returns as true, but afterwards, the patron info is still the same. I'm using ModItem successfully to update item info. 09:16 miguel-xercode I wonder if there is the option to select or change styles koha to provide, for example, about koha default styles for the catalog and other for kids catalog ? 09:11 miguel-xercode hi all 09:02 kf hi #koha 08:11 ppak i've done it..tq 4 ur help 07:52 ppak i'm not try for this one.. 07:48 Ropuch There's only 2 records in it, right? 07:48 Ropuch ppak: Can you paste the file you're trying to import to pastbin.org? 07:46 Ropuch Hi paul_p 07:42 ppak i get from other lib opac.. 07:42 paul_p hello world 07:38 Ropuch ppak: where did you get the records you're trying to import? 07:37 Ropuch Hi Amit_G 07:36 Amit_G hi Ropuch, chris 07:29 ppak MARC acquisition system Import into the reservoir Import results : * 0 imported records * 0 not imported because already in catalog * 0 not imported because already in the reservoir * 2 not imported because they seem not to be in MARC format (or ISBN/ISSN missing) ! * 2 records parsed * Back 07:29 ppak anybody can help me to solve this problem.. 07:24 CGI853 hi 07:24 Ropuch Hi chris 07:18 chris hi Ropuch 07:13 Ropuch Morning #koha 06:07 wajasu get fetch to get the latest 06:07 wajasu if you run from git, do you just 'git pull' or 'git fetchj