Time  Nick           Message
23:16 chris_n        off to fix that problem ;-)
23:16 * chris_n      wonders why he is inside on such a beautiful evening
23:16 munin`         chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 17.6�C (7:14 PM EDT on March 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 13%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 997.9 hPa (Rising).
23:16 chris_n        @wunder 28334
22:22 chris          moodaepo: yep, cant do a thing about it currently
22:03 munin`         moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 14.3�C (5:02 PM CDT on March 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising).
22:03 moodaepo       @weather 56001
22:02 moodaepo       I'm a fan of this type of header > "Official Koha Channel | http://koha-community.org/ | 3.0.5 & 3.2 Alpha | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ | Large Pastes @ http://paste.workbuffer.org/"
22:01 pastebot       "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "see" (1 line) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/25
22:01 wizzyrea       ok... off to get my kiddo. ttyl :)
22:01 * larsw        sees alohabot
22:00 chris          paste.workbuffer.org has a bot associated
22:00 wizzyrea       one minute!
22:00 wizzyrea       nah
22:00 chris          nope
22:00 larsw          shouldn't matter which pastebin one users, though?
22:00 chris          or you can use koha.pastebin.com
22:00 chris          yep theres that
21:59 * wizzyrea     is feeling kind of dumb today
21:59 wizzyrea       i think that's the URL anyway
21:59 wizzyrea       ah, there is paste.workbuffer.org that ppls use
21:59 larsw          this is all very democratic now
21:59 moodaepo       Is there a official Koha pastebin type site? Or one that is usually used?
21:59 wizzyrea       and we can't kick anybody... because we don't have ops!
21:58 larsw          freenode has a chanserv, this network does not seem to have one
21:58 wizzyrea       ^.^
21:58 chris          well to do that we need ops ;)
21:58 wizzyrea       we need to op a bot
21:58 chris          yeah cos there is a bot running to do that
21:58 wizzyrea       but not this one, apparently
21:58 wizzyrea       what he said
21:57 wizzyrea       on freenode if you are the owner of the channel you can op yourself
21:57 larsw          some irc networks have chanserv, which takes care of keeping channels and op status alive
21:57 moodaepo       ok who is lying to the nooob?
21:57 chris          before opping anyone else
21:57 chris          its the way irc works, you cant op someone if you aren't an op, and the last op disconnected
21:57 larsw          I don't know how things work here, I do know that's how it works (or worked years ago) on the original ircnet
21:57 wizzyrea       that is certainly one way to do it
21:57 wizzyrea       :)
21:57 moodaepo       larsw: really! no way
21:57 wizzyrea       bogus. lol
21:56 CGI018         till next time
21:56 CGI018         certainly
21:56 larsw          chris tells me no one is an op, and the way to get someone to become an op is for everyone to leave and then someone to re-create the channel
21:56 wizzyrea       sure thing. Pop back again sometime and let us know how it works out :)
21:56 wizzyrea       one caveat about k-c:  not all of the content has been moved, it's still in process, or being reworked, or... but koha-community.org is the site that is and will be maintained
21:56 CGI018         thanks for your help, wizzyrea
21:54 wizzyrea       ;)
21:54 wizzyrea       that lets you choose your nick
21:54 wizzyrea       k-c has a nicer IRC interface, as well
21:54 wizzyrea       afaik the only ones who have it work at katipo
21:54 wizzyrea       there aren't any ops online right now
21:53 CGI018         i'll bookmark it now
21:53 CGI018         oh boy thanks for that info
21:52 moodaepo       Do you know who does? gmcharlt?
21:52 wizzyrea       but you probably want to tell any 'CGIXXX' users that they are looking at the wrong site
21:51 moodaepo       man I need to learn to type looking at the screen!
21:51 moodaepo       ah so you don't : (
21:51 wizzyrea       I do not :(
21:51 * moodaepo     wonders if wizzyrea has that access : )
21:51 wizzyrea       someone would have to have operator to do that :(
21:50 moodaepo       wizzyrea: someone should add that link to irc welcome banner!
21:50 wizzyrea       it's the one that's actually up to date
21:50 wizzyrea       and so you know, the real official koha site is at koha-community.org
21:49 wizzyrea       but not with LDAP
21:49 wizzyrea       I have done it, yes
21:49 CGI018         did you configure your koha ils yourself?
21:49 wizzyrea       hard to say
21:49 wizzyrea       but, academics... mayb eyou are
21:48 CGI018         tiny academic
21:48 wizzyrea       then no, you probably aren't running it
21:48 CGI018         tiny
21:48 wizzyrea       how big is your library?
21:48 CGI018         thanks, i've made a note to ask the IT people just in case
21:48 wizzyrea       i would not worry about LDAP until you know whether or not you are actually using it
21:46 CGI018         http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/appendices/implementation-checklist
21:46 CGI018         it's part of the koha documentation
21:45 wizzyrea       ah
21:45 CGI018         going through checlist and making decisions as i go along
21:45 wizzyrea       (and where did you find this checklist, if I may ask)
21:45 wizzyrea       or just going through the checklist
21:45 wizzyrea       related to logging into the OPAC?
21:45 wizzyrea       are you having a specific problem?
21:44 CGI018         ok, i'll have to do that
21:44 wizzyrea       I'm guessing (only a guess) that you can ignore this statement
21:44 wizzyrea       the IT people, likely
21:44 wizzyrea       example: do you have a server somewhere that controls all of your authentication services across your network?
21:44 CGI018         who can i ask
21:44 CGI018         that's the thing
21:44 CGI018         idk
21:44 wizzyrea       are you using LDAP for patron authentication?
21:43 CGI018         idk what that really means
21:43 CGI018         i'm going over the Implementation Checklist and under OPAC Config, it says one should turn off OpacPasswordChange if using LADP authentication
21:43 * wizzyrea     should mention that she has to go in 20 minutes
21:41 wizzyrea       shoot
21:41 CGI018         i have a question right now
21:41 CGI018         thanks, wizzyrea
21:41 CGI018         awesome
21:41 wizzyrea       what's up
21:41 * wizzyrea     can try to help
21:41 wizzyrea       <  not an expert, but not really a nub
21:41 CGI018         how new are you, larsw?
21:40 CGI018         where be the experts
21:40 CGI018         geez :)
21:39 larsw          I am a newbie myself
21:39 larsw          hi there
21:33 CGI018         newbie here :-)
21:33 CGI018         anyone?
21:33 CGI018         hello?
21:32 CGI018         hello?
20:00 wajasu         Advanced search --> Location and Availability section
19:59 wajasu         i see the "All libraries" option in the advanced search for staff client.  lib of congress is enabled in the x3950 servers.  how do i get it to query other servers?
19:56 chris          the existing Z39.50 search function is just for searching when you are cataloguing items so you can import a catalogue record rather than typing it all in yourself
19:55 chris          if you want to search more than one Z39.50 server in something like the opac, you would have to do some work setting up pazpar2 and getting koha to search that (which in turn searches any number of targets)
19:54 chris          but you can search them when you are cataloguing
19:54 chris          no
19:50 wajasu         it seems that if i somehow configure another libraries z3950 server, when i search, can i get their books in the results also?
19:48 wajasu         ahh
19:48 chris          hence the table being called reserves
19:48 chris          in nz ppl call them reserves
19:48 chris          yes
19:47 wajasu         And my librarian must use the term Reserved, to mean not for loan.
19:46 wajasu         so when a person puts a hold on a book, it mean to hold it for them until they come to pick it up. (though the table is called reserves).
19:45 chris          yes
19:44 wajasu         (i.e. the same?)
19:44 wajasu         are reserves holds?
19:43 wajasu         i see a table called reserves.   should i be somehow getting my imports in there?
19:42 wajasu         i don't have a ccode for Reserved.
19:42 wajasu         the legacy database i am migrating had some records that are marked as RESERVE.  I translated those to notforloan in 952$7.
19:35 chris_n        howdy richard
19:34 richard        hi
18:39 chris_n        hi chris
18:36 chris          morning
17:50 chris_n        miguel-xercode: I would think that would be a function of whatever reverse proxy one was running
17:35 miguel-xercode not the case, though, too. I refer that in very generic domain like a great institution, to use a proxy through using these types of url.
17:33 * owen         has never understood the use of FIXMEs...at least not ones without accompanying bug reports
17:32 * chris_n      declines to answer questions about that bit of obfuscation as it was stolen from perlmonks.org
17:31 chris_n        hmm... "grep -rhc FIXME * | perl -lpe '${_{_}}+=+${_}}{${_}+=+${_{_}}'" from the root of my repo reports 643 FIXME's
17:26 chris_n        miguel-xercode: do you mean run multiple koha installs on a single box?
17:26 gmcharlt       owen: only if that script can translate to FIXME notes into something that makes sense ;)
17:26 chris_n        owen: nice
17:25 * owen         imagines a script that would automatically file a bug for every FIXME in Koha's code
17:24 miguel-xercode its possible use in koha to use a domain by adding /koha1 /koha2
17:21 miguel-xercode one question
17:21 miguel-xercode hi all
17:21 owen           Did we improve on LLEK by doubling the hard-coded limit? ;)
17:15 chris_n        another LLEK limitation
16:48 wizzyrea       erm, unrelated to your issue, wajasu
16:47 wizzyrea       </sarcasm>
16:47 wizzyrea       man, don't you just love it when you have a problem, and it turns out to be the people, and not the system.
16:47 wizzyrea       whew what a relief ;)
16:46 wajasu         i found a bug in my program that massages my import marc records. koha is fine.
16:33 wajasu         thx
16:33 wajasu         no problem. you gave me a lead.
16:29 kf             im sorry
16:28 kf             its time for me to go home now
16:27 kf             perhaps someone else can help you better
16:27 kf             REF
16:27 kf             you said RED is not in items.ccode
16:27 kf             hm not sure - I would look in biblio/biblioitem?.marcxml first
16:26 wajasu         you mean the marcxml that gets exported?
16:23 kf             koha is case sensitive there - REF and ref might cause problems
16:22 kf             hm I think you shoudl find out why it did not get imported as ccode - is it still present in marcxml?
16:17 wajasu         i put REF in $c as well when I built my import records.
16:15 * kf           got a bit confused while reading marc records
16:13 kf             LOC ist for $c
16:13 kf             its CCODE
16:13 kf             ah sorry
16:13 kf             LOC
16:13 kf             there the code is saved and a description for the code is in auth value
16:13 wajasu         its confusing because I have REF in CCODE, LOC, and itemtypes.
16:13 kf             in the database ist items.ccode
16:13 wajasu         i thought it was CCODE?
16:12 kf             i REF defined in auth value LOC?
16:12 kf             value
16:12 kf             $8 is an authorized calue
16:11 wajasu         and I need to look to zebra indexing (i.e. export...952$8)
16:11 wajasu         or is this a field used for nozebra mode?
16:10 wajasu         the question is, should i be getting REF in my items.ccode when 952$8 is REF?
16:09 wajasu         i looked at the koha to marc mapping and 965$8 looks like its mapped in this default framework.
16:07 * wizzyrea     is not an indexing guru, I just know where to look
16:06 wajasu         ok
16:06 wajasu         to get 952$8 indexed, or to get items.ccode filled in?
16:06 wizzyrea       try the 1st marc/koha mapping
16:05 wajasu         do I need to set a marc to koha mapping, or make a new framework?
16:05 wajasu         i tried advanced search with limit = Reference and no results.
16:04 wajasu         when I import with 952$8REF (i.e. ccode=REF), i look in items.ccode and only see null's, FIC and NFIC, but no REF.
16:01 wajasu         it worked.
16:01 wizzyrea       hehe
16:01 wajasu         my zebra is blushing
16:01 wajasu         chris_n++
16:00 wajasu         wizzyrea++
15:39 sekjal         yuck
15:39 sekjal         but that means I have to give the XSLT a good twice-over, to give the best possible example to build from
15:39 sekjal         yeah, I should.
15:38 wizzyrea       I'd go ahead and post it
15:38 wizzyrea       or download/upload, as the case may be
15:38 wizzyrea       ;)
15:38 wizzyrea       well re-do = copy/paste
15:37 sekjal         I'm late in posting my III migration code I promised at C4L.  perhaps I just should post to the existing contribs and redo it if/when we switch
15:37 * jwagner      thinks that's better than never changing it at all :-)
15:37 * wizzyrea     changes her mind quickly a lot
15:36 wizzyrea       that's probably better on the wiki
15:36 wizzyrea       er, or not
15:36 wizzyrea       and things like the report library
15:36 wizzyrea       but I do think contribs would work there
15:36 sekjal         okay, cool.
15:36 wizzyrea       Si is on holiday
15:36 wizzyrea       I'm waiting on DNS for subdomains
15:36 wizzyrea       yes, in fact it does seem like it would work there
15:34 sekjal         had there been plans discussed for redoing contribs.koha.org using the new site?  It seems like the kind of content that WP would manage well
15:33 wizzyrea       :) thanks, it's fun and for a good cause.
15:30 sekjal         wizzyrea++ . Thanks for all your efforts on the Koha site
15:29 wajasu         I'll try that out.  Yeah community!
15:29 chris_n        seems we are on our way to taming the zebra
15:29 chris_n        chris++ #ditto
15:29 wizzyrea       >.> I just set up the infrastructure
15:29 wizzyrea       chris did it
15:28 chris_n        wizzyrea++ #for such excellent work
15:28 wizzyrea       see 1
15:27 wizzyrea       http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
15:26 wajasu         something peculiar.  i am running out of git (origin), and i load my 16000 records.  I search and some show up duplicated in the results.
15:17 sekjal         wizzyrea: agreed
15:03 wizzyrea       I think the first comment sums it up
15:02 wizzyrea       http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/22/1635205/Open-Source-Is-Not-a-Democracy?from=twitter
15:02 wizzyrea       oh snap
14:57 munin`         wizzyrea_home: The operation succeeded.
14:57 wizzyrea_home  @later tell nicomo thanks for fixing the characters in the appendix. HTML generation of the manual seems to work great now. :)
14:56 munin`         wizzyrea_home: The operation succeeded.
14:56 wizzyrea_home  @later tell nengard squee!
14:50 CGI474         If I am successful then I will get my hand on live data
14:49 CGI474         I am not working on live data so I think I can take chance even if it not works good
14:49 hdl_laptop     Be CAREFULL
14:49 hdl_laptop     mysql database -u user -ppaswd <file.sql
14:49 CGI474         thanks a lot
14:49 CGI474         ohk let me try
14:48 hdl_laptop     mysqldump >file.sql
14:48 hdl_laptop     on the first server
14:48 hdl_laptop     mysqldump
14:48 CGI474         Hi I want to transfer data from one server to another server. I don't know how to transfer that data. Can anyone please help me with that.. Both the machine have same versions,
14:45 wizzyrea_home  (yes, it's still broken atm)
14:45 wizzyrea_home  I think this may work now
14:45 wizzyrea_home  nengard: images again, but much much better
13:54 kf             yep :)
13:54 collum         np. I'm not able to look at it again till next week.
13:54 jwagner        kf, then you're REALLY done for :-)
13:53 kf             jwagner: need to implement links with $w between titles - need to understand marc first, xslt after that... :(
13:51 jwagner        collum, I'm not having any luck with the parens problem, and I have to break off to work on other stuff.  I can try to come back to it later, but I don't know when, sigh.
13:38 * chris_n      takes another guess at erik's problem
13:34 jwagner        hdl_laptop, I've been working through some of them.  Not too much help, so far.
13:31 hdl_laptop     jwagner: there are very good xslt tutorials online
13:21 * jwagner      thinks it would help if I knew what I was doing, rather than fumbling with an unfamiliar language and syntax.
13:20 jwagner        No, no, escape while you still can!!!
13:18 kf             I m starting work on xslt right now - dont make me give up :)
13:18 kf             hey
13:18 * jwagner      doesn't like it either.
13:16 * collum       doesn't like xslt
13:16 collum         The escaping looks correct, but I wonder if chopString just removes the last character of a string.
13:15 jwagner        collum, I was trying a separate chopParens function initially but had no luck.  I'll take another look.  The chopBrackets looks like the same syntax, and the brackets aren't escaped -- <xsl:if test="substring($string, 1,1)='['">
13:13 collum         I wonder if you can copy that and change it to chopParens
13:13 collum         chopBrackets function in MARC21slimOPACResults.xsl
13:12 collum         oops
13:12 collum         jwagner: there is a chopBracketsls
13:12 owen           And Ed Begley Jr.
13:12 chris_n        perhaps with such a change we'd finally see the light of day?
13:12 jwagner        Now, see, if we replaced zebra with SOLR, we could make jokes about solar eclipses etc.
13:12 chris_n        however, when all is quiet on the western front so to speak, the joke tend to ebb
13:11 chris_n        they are long standing actually and tend to flare up when the herd stampedes
13:11 * jwagner      thinks we'll find humor whever we can....
13:11 owen           Each of those people has finally reached the stage where Zebra has driven them insane.
13:10 * braedon|home finds it rather perplexing
13:10 braedon|home   has no one previously realised "Zebra" is the name of an animal?
13:10 braedon|home   both on here, and in the mailing list
13:10 chris_n        yes, they are easily spooked :)
13:10 braedon|home   what is with all the zebra jokes today?
13:09 * jwagner      has visions of herds of zebras running amok
13:08 chris_n        it might head off a whole herd of zebra problems
13:08 chris_n        the civicrm web installer checks directory permissions and flags those incorrect... that would be nice to implement in the koha web installer
13:07 * chris_n      admits that he gave up on the xslt stuff awhile back
13:02 jwagner        I was trying to add the parens into that, but it either ignores them completely or thinks they're trying to close the call.  I tried escaping them with backslashes \(\) but it ignored that.  How to make this section include parens as punctuation to be stripped out?
13:01 jwagner        In the chopPunctuation section of MARC21slimUtils.xsl, it has <xsl:when test="contains('.:,;/ ', substring($chopString,$length,1))">
13:00 munin`         04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, "Related subjects" search is OPAC doesn't work with chained subject terms
13:00 jwagner        I'm working on Bug 4276, trying to strip out the parens.
12:59 jwagner        Any XSLT experts on this morning?
12:35 jdavidb        :)
12:34 chris_n        jdavidb: bingo :)
12:32 jdavidb        no, it would create a branch named commitish, at the current HEAD.  what you're probably looking for is 'git checkout -b branchname commitish', I think.
12:27 chris_n        doesn't 'git checkout -b committish' create a topic branch at the commit referenced by committish?
12:22 jwagner        G'morning chris_n
12:21 chris_n        greetings #koha
11:41 kf             hi jdavidb
11:40 jdavidb        howdy, #koha.
10:14 Willem         our koha version is 3.00.01.005 is that what you're asking?
10:12 hdl_laptop     Willem: which version ?
09:58 Willem         Hi, does anyone know why the following doesn't update the patron info:  ModMember( borrowernumber => '503', address => 'My New Address' ); it is run by perl without errors and even returns as true, but afterwards, the patron info is still the same. I'm using ModItem successfully to update item info.
09:16 miguel-xercode I wonder if there is the option to select or change styles koha to provide, for example, about koha default styles for the catalog and other for kids catalog ?
09:11 miguel-xercode hi all
09:02 kf             hi #koha
08:11 ppak           i've done it..tq 4 ur help
07:52 ppak           i'm not try for this one..
07:48 Ropuch         There's only 2 records in it, right?
07:48 Ropuch         ppak: Can you paste the file you're trying to import to pastbin.org?
07:46 Ropuch         Hi paul_p
07:42 ppak           i get from other lib opac..
07:42 paul_p         hello world
07:38 Ropuch         ppak: where did you get the records you're trying to import?
07:37 Ropuch         Hi Amit_G
07:36 Amit_G         hi Ropuch, chris
07:29 ppak           MARC acquisition system Import into the reservoir  Import results :      * 0 imported records     * 0 not imported because already in catalog     * 0 not imported because already in the reservoir     * 2 not imported because they seem not to be in MARC format (or ISBN/ISSN missing) !     * 2 records parsed     * Back
07:29 ppak           anybody can help me to solve this problem..
07:24 CGI853         hi
07:24 Ropuch         Hi chris
07:18 chris          hi Ropuch
07:13 Ropuch         Morning #koha
06:07 wajasu         get fetch to get the latest
06:07 wajasu         if you run from git, do you just 'git pull' or 'git fetchj