Time Nick Message 10:13 genji hiya all. okay, im quite paranoid about updating my production machines without breaking koha... and its specific libXML version requirements, so easy to break... how do i ensure i can upgrade the system without koha being broken? 10:36 genji brandon, you unidle? 10:37 braedon|home are you meaning me? or brendan? or someone actually called brandon? 10:45 braedon|home ok, apparently not me then :P 10:46 genji oh.. sorry 10:46 * braedon|home curses the continual uncertainty created by the butchered spelling of his name, and returns to idleing 10:46 genji got a cube running, didn't see your messge. 10:46 genji braedon|home: 10:46 genji braedon|home: You run a koha/debian system? 10:47 braedon|home did temporarily, over the summer 10:47 braedon|home (at uni again now) 10:48 braedon|home o, your question about libXML earlier? 10:48 genji braedon|home: How do you update debian, without killing koha? it has version dependancy issues with libxml and LibXML and so forth.. that im afraid to security patch it. 10:49 genji can't afford mistakes. 10:50 braedon|home not sure i will be able to help you unfortunately. The only systems i updated were actually ubuntu(we switched halfway through deployment), and we never had any issues with libXML after initial install 10:51 braedon|home probably best to wait for someone with longer term management knowledge 10:52 genji yeah... can't really switch distros now, the hosting machine is now public. 10:53 braedon|home haha, switching to ubuntu to be able to take my advice would not be, well, advisable lol :) 10:54 braedon|home the only issues i remember related to libxml, we with the default sax parser 10:55 braedon|home we didn't have any problems once that was done 10:56 genji yeah.. well.. go too far with libxml upgrades, and LibXML won't install... and downgrading is difficult. 10:56 genji had this problem with trying to use Centos. 10:57 genji its libxml was too new for LibXML 10:57 braedon|home i don't have access to any Koha systems atm, so i can't even check what versions we had running. i really should set up my own testing VMs.... 10:57 braedon|home ok 10:57 genji and this was straight off a centos 5.2 iso. 10:59 braedon|home all i can tell you is that it worked fine for both Koha 3.00.05 and 3.2 alpha with the standard versions from the Ubuntu repositories, a month ago 10:59 braedon|home so i suppose you could check the debian version against the ubuntu one 11:00 braedon|home and assuming ubuntu didn't break something with their modifications... 11:02 braedon|home sorry i can't be of more assistance 11:13 genji braedon|home: hey, thats fine. 11:13 genji i can wait. 11:13 genji not like hackers are attacking. 11:14 genji haven't seen any authentication loopholes in koha anyway. its pretty airtight. 11:52 Musab Hi there 11:54 Musab How can I understand the meaning and the purpose of each columns in the sql database of koha 14:08 kmkale @weather 14:08 munin kmkale: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city. 14:08 kmkale @weather Mumbai 14:08 munin kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 31.0�C (7:10 PM IST on March 21, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 14:08 kmkale @weather Thane India 14:08 munin kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 31.0�C (7:10 PM IST on March 21, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 17:08 brendan @weather 93117 17:08 munin brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 13.9�C (9:45 AM PDT on March 21, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady). 18:45 chris_n @wunder 28334 18:45 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 21.3�C (2:44 PM EDT on March 21, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 14%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Rising). 18:45 brendan heya chris_n 18:46 chris_n howdy brendan, how's it going out west? 18:46 brendan well... Inside today - but went to he regan presidential library yesterday 18:47 chris_n neat... do they use Koha? 18:47 chris_n :) 18:47 brendan was pretty cool (although I wasn't a crazy fan of reagan) but it was still cool to see Air force one 18:47 brendan wasn't able to make it into the archives 18:47 brendan would be cool if they did 18:47 chris_n yeah 19:31 richard hi 19:41 brendan heya richard 19:41 richard hi brendan 20:05 chris morning 20:07 richard hi chris 21:31 brendan @weather 93117 21:31 munin brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 17.2�C (2:05 PM PDT on March 21, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Falling). 21:39 rhcl_home brendan: are you flying or driving to Portland? 21:39 brendan I'm flying 21:39 rhcl_home Oh, Santa Barbara? You're flying. 21:39 brendan need to be in Denver the next week 21:39 rhcl_home I had the idea you were in N. CA 21:39 chris are you going rhcl_home ? 21:40 brendan Santa Barbara is about 1.5 hours north of LA 21:40 rhcl_home No, I'm not high enough on the feeding chain. :) 21:40 chris ah bummer 21:40 rhcl_home We're sending a whole contingent though, like five people. 21:40 chris sweet 21:40 rhcl_home Actually I'm more tech than library, so it's logical that they wouldn't send me. 21:41 rhcl_home I'm barely aware there are two different lengths of ISBNs 21:41 chris oh i dunno 21:41 chris thats probably a good reason to go ;) 21:42 rhcl_home I used to go to different things, but then stopped while I was doing my MS, so I'll probably start getting out more now.