Time  Nick         Message
23:37 rhcl         later...
23:36 rhcl         Might get a better response there.
23:36 Genji        huh.. suppose i should..
23:35 rhcl         Gengi - not many people on here right now, and I think you've posted this here a couple of times, right? Have you tried sending to the email list?
23:33 Genji        where was this patch saved to?
23:30 munin        04Bug 2265: blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, RESOLVED FIXED, Problem (bloquing) in MARC editor, duplicated fields
23:30 Genji        is it  this bug? http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2265
23:24 Genji        any ideas?
23:24 Genji        bug: when the cataloger do a new record which contains more than one author he put the first author in field #100 , and the rest of the authors in 700 (it is a repeatable field) then save the record. Later on another  cataloger will go over new records to make sure that all the data have been entered correctly and there are nothing missing. If the other cataloger changes anything in the record and save it, the content of the fields 700 get r
23:24 Genji        hiyaall
23:14 rhcl         bye
23:09 brendan      :)
23:09 brendan      later all -- have a good weekend
23:01 ebegin       s/woman/women
23:00 ebegin       hehe... after our gold medal in the Men and Woman Olympics's hockey, we need new challenges :)
22:59 gmcharlt     Missouri, Canada?  I guess the invasion has begun ;)
22:59 ebegin       ok.  I quit spamming people
22:59 ebegin       who knows... :)
22:58 munin        ebegin: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
22:58 munin        ebegin: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
22:58 ebegin       @weather St. Joseph, Missouri, canada
22:58 ebegin       @weather St. Joseph, Missouri, canad
22:58 munin        ebegin: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
22:58 ebegin       @weather St. Joseph, Missouri, US
22:58 munin        ebegin: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
22:58 ebegin       @weather St. Joseph, Missouri, United states of america
22:58 ebegin       weird
22:58 munin        ebegin: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
22:58 ebegin       @weather St. Joseph, Missouri, USA
22:58 munin        ebegin: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is 6.1�C (4:57 PM CST on March 12, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Rising).
22:58 ebegin       @weather St. Joseph, Missouri
22:58 munin        rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is 6.1�C (4:57 PM CST on March 12, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Rising).
22:57 rhcl         @wunder 64505
22:57 munin        ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 8.0�C (5:00 PM EST on March 12, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
22:57 ebegin       @weather montreal, quebec
22:57 rhcl         Yea, that's about right. :)
22:57 ebegin       haha
22:57 munin        ebegin: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
22:57 ebegin       @weather St. Joseph, Missouri, USA
22:56 rhcl         St. Joseph, Missouri, USA
22:56 ebegin       rhcl, where are you, i mean, physically? :)
22:54 rhcl         I suppose there's probably not a day that I don't wake up and have at least a transient thought that I wish I was in Thailand.
22:53 Genji        Yup.... thats about right.
22:53 munin        Genji: The current temperature in Palmerston North Aws, New Zealand is 11.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on March 13, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
22:53 Genji        @weather palmerston north, new zealand
22:53 ebegin       lol
22:53 rhcl         In spirit
22:53 ebegin       rhcl, are you in Thailand?
22:52 rhcl         well
22:52 munin        rhcl: The current temperature in Bangkok (Suvarnabhumi), Thailand is 28.0�C (5:30 AM ICT on March 13, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
22:52 rhcl         @weather pattaya, thailand
22:52 gmcharlt     the bot had better not go after me - I can kill -9 it ;)
22:52 rhcl         good, now gmcharlt is in trouble too
22:52 munin        gmcharlt: The current temperature in FoxFire Woods, Gainesville, Florida is 19.2�C (5:30 PM EST on March 12, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Falling).
22:52 gmcharlt     @wunder 32605
22:52 munin        gmcharlt: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
22:52 gmcharlt     @wunder bangkok
22:52 munin        gmcharlt: Error: "wuner" is not a valid command.
22:52 gmcharlt     @wuner bangkok
22:51 ebegin       don't expect and answer everytime munin doesn't answer though :)
22:51 ebegin       :)
22:50 * gmcharlt   blinks - when did munin move to Canada? ;)
22:50 ebegin       Humidity: 84%
22:50 ebegin       Wind: SE at 8 km/h
22:50 ebegin       27°C | °F
22:50 ebegin       rhcl: Weather for Bangkok, Thailand
22:49 rhcl         uh oh, am I in trouble?
22:49 munin        rhcl: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
22:49 rhcl         @weather bangkok, thailand
22:48 ebegin       I use to go a few times a year.  I have a friend living in Newport Beach
22:48 brendan      ebegin - come you're welcome whenever :)
22:47 munin        ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 8.0�C (5:00 PM EST on March 12, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
22:47 ebegin       @weather montreal, quebec
22:47 ebegin       brendan, i wish i was in california... :)
22:47 munin        brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 17.2�C (2:30 PM PST on March 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Falling).
22:47 brendan      @weather 93117
20:57 chris_n      had all the fun possible for a Friday... ttyl #koha
19:29 jwagner      Am heading out now -- happy weekend everyone.
18:58 jdavidb      lol
18:55 munin        jwagner: Quote #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.... eventually, ye shall stop asking." (added by gmcharlt at 04:31 PM, July 09, 2009)
18:55 jwagner      @quote random
18:38 jwagner      I'm thinking maybe have it as one of the "more options" set
18:38 * owen       wishes we could
18:37 owen         ...even though we don't use shelving location.
18:37 * owen       agrees
18:33 jwagner      OK, I'll see how it works out.
18:30 gmcharlt     jwagner: I woudl think it would be of general interest
18:28 jwagner      i.e., should I plan on submitting it when done?
18:28 jwagner      owen and anyone else -- got a request from a client to add a search by shelving location to the OPAC advanced search page (similar to the item type setup).  Would that be of general use?
18:18 jwagner      but at least the snowstorms and the floods aren't completely simultaneous...
18:15 jdavidb      ...and plagues of locusts...I mean, *politicians*, too.
18:14 brendan      geeze jwagner has big snowstorms and floods
18:12 munin        jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 9.8�C (1:11 PM EST on March 12, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Steady).  Flood Watch in effect through Saturday evening... 
18:12 jwagner      @wunder 20817
18:11 munin        brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 13.9�C (9:50 AM PST on March 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Rising).
18:11 brendan      @weather 93117
18:11 brendan      heh :(
17:58 schuster     Sandbox has gained a bad rap at the Schuster house - evidently our rescue westie we got last christmas would only go on concrete or in the sandbox so we no longer have a sandbox the boys can play in...
17:40 * jwagner    thinks the term "sandbox" may take on a whole new meaning today.
17:39 wizzyrea     lol
17:35 * gmcharlt   hands the children some puppies and espressos
17:33 wizzyrea     paint fingerprints > regular fingerprints ;)
17:33 wizzyrea     I think you should probably be more concerned about my paint covered feelers all over your stuff
17:32 cait         :)
17:32 owen         Just wait till I come over there and put fingerprints on your monitor :P
17:32 brendan      owen, thanks had to laugh at the one :)
17:31 * wizzyrea   touches owen's paint *touchy touchy*
17:31 * owen       hoards his paint
17:31 owen         Get your hands off my paint!
17:31 wizzyrea     pain
17:31 wizzyrea     anyway, I feel your paint
17:30 wizzyrea     (that, and other issues I can't talk about)
17:29 wizzyrea     so it kind of languished.
17:29 wizzyrea     because suddenly the attitude was "well someone's probably already working on that" but we could never prove it
17:29 wizzyrea     when we found out our duplicate effort, it was much harder to get momentum to push forth the rest of the package
17:28 wizzyrea     we got together with another system in our state to collab, but we didn't know that someone was already working on half of that problem
17:28 gmcharlt     sure, sometimes a developer will pick up and implement a feature request just for fun, but if you want to ensure that it gets done on any particular schedule, elbow grease, persuasion, or money will help move it forward
17:27 wizzyrea     we wanted a "bib maintenance package" that included merging of bibs, bulk change/delete of items, and several other things
17:27 wizzyrea     yea, I'll give an example
17:26 gmcharlt     part of the equation is that somebody making a proposal does have to actual work - not necessarily to fight with Bugzilla or whatever software is being used, but to check for duplicates, finding collaborators or cosponsors if necessary, and so forth
17:26 * wizzyrea   giggles
17:26 * jdavidb    pictures wizzy running around Logan Circle endlessly, then realizing the futility and moving to McPherson Square...
17:26 wizzyrea     Okk tah don, as my son would say
17:25 sekjal       hexagon
17:25 wizzyrea     maybe I'll try running in a square next time
17:25 wizzyrea     always end up running myself in a circle
17:24 wizzyrea     which tells you how far I've gotten with it, lol
17:24 wizzyrea     i'm not trying to be negative, I've been thinking about this problem since we started using koha 2 years ago
17:24 SJeffery     But I have long since learned that logic and reason have no relationship with business.
17:24 wizzyrea     yeppers, definitely
17:24 SJeffery     Well if other people are interested in sponsoring relationship linking, seems like it might be a good idea to get together. *shrug*
17:23 wizzyrea     sometimes the vendors don't want anyone else to know what they are working on
17:23 wizzyrea     that is always the problem with koha
17:23 wizzyrea     heh
17:23 SJeffery     If we are going to sponsor some development it would be rather nice to be able to easily check that nobody else is already doing it or has similar ideas.
17:23 wizzyrea     I like working on koha web stuff :P
17:22 wizzyrea     well yea
17:22 sekjal       but, of course, would require work (like everything)
17:22 wizzyrea     can you have multiple bug input forms in bugzilla?
17:22 SJeffery     That would be nice.
17:22 sekjal       wizzyrea: that would make it easier for folks to participate
17:22 owen         split them out so that people can browse them separately?
17:22 wizzyrea     maybe even a *gasp* form to fill out
17:21 wizzyrea     I do think the enhancements need to be split out. Maybe we can define a policy on suggesting great ideas, and make it formal on the website
17:20 wizzyrea     part of me says "just learn to use bugzilla" and the other part realizes it's incredibly intimidating for newcomers to the community/librarians
17:19 * wizzyrea   drives a volkswagen
17:19 wizzyrea     (I did say at the very least)
17:19 SJeffery     That's like putting shiny red paint on a volkswagon and calling it a BMW.
17:19 * wizzyrea   would help out with that, once it's ready
17:19 gmcharlt     wizzyrea: will be easier to do that once Catalyst is ready to host it
17:18 wizzyrea     I personally think that we should at the very least pretty up our bugzilla :P
17:18 SJeffery     Bugzilla is the devil. I would take Mantis or something else any day of the week.
17:18 gmcharlt     and nobody believes us developers when we say that a bug can be an enhancement request ;(
17:17 sekjal       I think bugzilla is a) kind of intimidating for some and b) implies it only deals with 'bugs', not enhancement requests
17:17 wizzyrea     there
17:17 wizzyrea     but can't seem to get any traction ther
17:17 wizzyrea     which I thought we were going to use bugzilla for
17:17 wizzyrea     which leads us back to the place where "boy it would be nice to have an "idea bucket" where people put their ideas in and developers can pick up the ones they want to quote on"
17:15 wizzyrea     most of which the solution I'm contemplating would handle. I think what I'd rather do is have each vendor link to their contact page
17:15 sekjal       but if we made it the responsibility of the companies to keep their info up to date, then it would be in their best interest to keep it accurate
17:15 sekjal       wizzyrea: yeah, that would be difficult.  there'd have to be a ton of metadata about the vendors, the services they offer, their geographic area of operation, etc.
17:14 * wizzyrea   shudders
17:14 wizzyrea     you think there's controversy NOW around how vendors are handled on the site
17:14 wizzyrea     sekjal: a good idea, but I don't relish the idea of keeping that contact list up to date
17:13 SJeffery     I tihnk you forgot the "'s around the word fun.
17:13 sekjal       idea for koha-community.org: a way for folks to request quotes from registered support companies.  Submit one form, get emails/calls from multiple companies
17:12 sekjal       SJeffery: sounds like a fun challenge
17:12 SJeffery     By public I mean the front end and the back end vs the super secret back end you telnet into.
17:11 SJeffery     Not from the public interface. The vendor provides zero documentation for the back-end that you have to telnet into. The only alternative we are aware of is to have the vendor upgrade us to the new version (at a price) that allows export, export it, then drop the product.
17:10 jwagner      Can you get MARC records out of STAR?
17:09 SJeffery     Perhaps I could just start a bidding war here:D
17:09 SJeffery     Yeah, it is (sorta) great. We were also looking for someone to migrate us from an opac called STAR, but nobody but us seems to have so much as heard of it:P
17:08 sekjal       SJeffery: one of the great things about an open source ILS: you get shop around for services
17:07 * jwagner    wasn't going to mention that option :-) All's fair in love & development, right?
17:07 gmcharlt     SJeffery: to say nothing of contacting other vendors and independent programmers for pricing as well ;)
17:07 jwagner      Hey!  We answer lots of phones.  Also emails!
17:07 SJeffery     Now if only I could ever get someone from PTFS to actually answer their phones:)
17:06 jwagner      SJeffery, I'm sure we'd be willing to help :-)
17:05 wizzyrea     lol mt
17:05 wizzyrea     must be a bad bib on the keyword moon
17:05 SJeffery     So what would go into getting someone to create the bib-bib links and integrating it into the codebase? Just contact say PTFS and see what they would charge?
16:59 wizzyrea     yep
16:59 jwagner      Aha.  Looking at a 3.2 system, there's a new syspref named AWSPrivateKey.  That's probably what's missing here.
16:58 owen         As far as I know AmazonAssocTag is only required if you want a cut of Amazon sales done via your library's catalog links
16:57 wizzyrea     sec, it's in 3.2
16:57 wizzyrea     no, it's the AWSSecretKey or something
16:57 wizzyrea     (one of the things amazon changed a few months back was how that worked)
16:57 jwagner      Is that the AWSAccessKeyID?  That's filled in on this system, but AmazonAssocTag is not.  Dunno if that makes a difference
16:57 wizzyrea     (we are too far behind on our code)
16:56 wizzyrea     yep, it requires amazon secret key, which we currently have no syspref to put our number for that in
16:56 jwagner      The reviews syspref is turned on.
16:55 jwagner      wizzyrea, does reviews require extra config/syspref setup?
16:55 gmcharlt     SJeffery: bib-bib relationships, anyway - I'm not sure that bib-to-bib links is necessarily the ideal way to encoding all FRBR relationships
16:55 wizzyrea     catalog.nexpresslibrary.org
16:54 wizzyrea_    sorry still reading back
16:54 SJeffery     gmcharlt: So would the easiest thing to do be simply to include all work-work (bib-bib) relationships from FRBR over 7xx links?
16:54 wizzyrea_    oh, but we don't have reviews yet
16:54 jwagner      wizzyrea_, what's your OPAC URL?
16:54 wizzyrea_    we are using amazon
16:52 cait         jwagner: I m at home (supposed to learn for my distance study), so no access to the staff interface to load one of your titles, perhaps somebody else can help
16:52 schuster     I believe nekls is using Amazon.
16:50 jwagner      cait, no I'm not finding any overlap on my sample titles.  Anyone else?  A U.S. public library, maybe?
16:50 cait         :(
16:49 cait         hm, its a library for teachers, so mostly German school books... which are probably not the titles you want to double check
16:47 cait         jwagner: https://seminar-stuttgart.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=10103
16:47 cait         seminar-stuttgart.bsz-bw.de
16:46 cait         perhaps, let me check
16:45 jwagner      Does someone have an OPAC handy that's using Amazon content, specifically reviews?  I'm trying to figure out if there's a problem with a site not getting any reviews, or just not getting very many & thus haven't found any yet.  Would like to doublecheck some titles elsewhere.
16:40 * jwagner    keeps getting deeper and deeper into the swamp :-(
16:40 jwagner      We're waddling, er, working as fast as we can on getting the code ready to release.
16:39 paul_p       jwagner: nope
16:39 jwagner      paul_p, thanks. That one should be about ready to go -- do you need it in a hurry?
16:39 sekjal       some of which would fit well into MARC 7XXs, but other FRBR relationships could be defined, as well
16:38 sekjal       a method for linking any two bibliographic records with user-configurable relationships
16:38 sekjal       this sounds like the bib linker I've been thinking about
16:36 gmcharlt     but that woudl be secondary, depending on how involved you want to get
16:36 gmcharlt     some UI work to make it easy to link records together in the cataloging editor would be good (so that catalogers don't have to try to remember record IDs when establishing links) as well
16:35 gmcharlt     that would be fairly easy and quick to do
16:35 gmcharlt     SJeffery: some bits would definitely be of general interest - an easy mechanism to travel from bib to bib in the OPAC over 7xx links would be useful in a number of situations
16:33 SJeffery     gmcharlt: Any idea on the extent of modifications required? Would it be something to sponsor or a local-only thing?
16:31 paul_p       exactly what we need for a customer !!!
16:31 munin        04Bug 4239: enhancement, P5, ---, kohaprogrammers@ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Allow holds on multiple items of selected titles
16:31 paul_p       (for http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4239)
16:31 paul_p       jwagner++
16:23 SJeffery     What would be involved in that? Thinking of bringing in someone else to manage that kind of change.
16:21 gmcharlt     SJeffery: 773s and some hackery to mark a record as a 'folder' type
16:20 SJeffery     Not sure how to link each folder to the parent (collection) record though.
16:19 SJeffery     Describing at the collection level is very straightforward in MARC, it is the folder-level that is the nightmare I think.
16:18 SJeffery     Right now I work for a company that has regular books in LC, a large collection of technical articles each with their own record using a proprietary call numbering system, and a large archives collection. Seems like shoehorning the archives into Koha is the best bet.
16:18 brendan      agreed gmcharlt
16:17 jwagner      In some cases they're using manuscript dates or maybe box number as the call number.
16:17 gmcharlt     brendan: storing and indexing MODS is the *easy* part, relatively speaking
16:17 cait         you can link titles with $0 subfields in MARC21
16:17 jwagner      Our nearest equivalent would be Mount Vernon/Gunston Hall -- go to http://mv.ptfsinc.com/ and do an advanced search on manuscripts.  Anything remotely like what you're doing?  They're doing it as item types & collection codes.  The collection is still building, so there isn't much in the system yet.
16:17 brendan      it would be really interesting to adding some space in the database for storing the MODS...  and then deal with the editor later
16:16 SJeffery     My thought is to do something like create one record for each file folder, item, or box (depending on the circumstances) and link them via series entries.
16:16 * jdavidb    has a dream of a system that would allow definition, editing, import/export, indexing, and coherent display of *any* data structure expressable in XML, even totally-arbitrary ones.
16:15 jdavidb      SJeffery: Koha is pretty solidly MARC-centric; MODS/METS records would be (at the least) very non-intuitive to deal with; not sure the editor could do much of anything with 'em, at this point.  But you can hack up the MARC frameworks anyway you like, and use that, maybe.
16:14 cait         SJeffery: we need to change the xslt files - but I have had no time for this yet
16:14 cait         SJeffery: I think what you look for is linking between titles? we have that in our data, but its not visible yet
16:12 SJeffery     I'm curious if anyone has done that from Koha. The only archives I have found using it is the Hawaii State Archives, and it does not look like they describe that way.
16:11 SJeffery     Archives normally describe/catalog their records a tad differently than regular libraries. They might create a separate record for each box, each file, or each collection
16:09 brendan      morning jdavidb
16:09 jdavidb      Howdy, Brendan! :)
16:06 jwagner      SJeffery, not sure what you mean by archives & needs.
16:06 SJeffery     So...anyone with any ideas about archives using Koha?
15:59 SJeffery     Mornin
15:59 hdl_laptop   hi all
15:53 SJeffery     (since nobody else is responding), the answer to your volume # question depends on local practice from my undrestanding
15:45 wajasu       should multivolume books (i.e. v.1, v.2 on the end of callnumbers, end up as distinct biblios, or different items in the same biblio with the v.# in it's $o ? (is so, should 090ab not contain the v.# info)?
15:42 wajasu       i.e. total copies?
15:42 wajasu       another question. if my marc record has n items, does koha maintain the 008/17-19 accordinlgy?  should it? or should i in the program I wrote that transforms my legacy software to MARC21 records?
15:38 SJeffery     Customary but not all libraries print copy numbers, mine does not
15:37 gmcharlt     yep, c.1 is customary, and you'd have to change your template
15:36 wajasu       i printed a spline.  it puts the copy on the bottom.  is it customary to put c.1? just like volumes have v.1?  is so would i just need to change my template?
15:35 wajasu       it'll look better on the display
15:35 gmcharlt     optional to do that, but a good idea
15:35 SJeffery     Is anyone aware of any archives using Koha other than the Hawaii state archives? I am curious how it ends up looking when you have the multi-level description common to archives.
15:35 wajasu       so i should i put $t1 in the first book's 952 then as well?
15:34 gmcharlt     only libraries run by programmers call the first copy number 0 ;)
15:34 gmcharlt     wajasu: $t2 is customary
15:34 wajasu       i have a cataloguer question. about whether a second copy of a book should have a holdings entry of 952$t2 or $t1?
15:22 * jdavidb    waves at chyde
15:16 jdavidb      Hi, paul_p! :D
15:06 jwagner      hello paul_p
14:59 paul_p       hello world.
14:57 jwagner      Looking at the code, I guess not -- seems to be coming from the item data, the URI field.
14:51 jwagner      Can someone confirm my theory?  In the OPAC title display, in the item holdings list, if something shows in the URL column, it's deriving that from biblioitems.url?
14:49 munin        gmcharlt: Quote #68: "gmcharlt: which probably means that library schools ought to rename Cataloging 101 to Identification and Avoidance of Rabbit Holes 101" (added by wizzyrea_laptop at 03:17 PM, March 10, 2010)
14:49 gmcharlt     @quote random
14:23 schuster     For those that have been around Koha for awhile there was a time in which gutenberg materials were linked somehow into the catalog...  was that useful or not?
14:22 schuster     morning...  I'm having a thoughtful morning(thinking not being nice to others) kind of morning.
14:21 munin        jdavidb: Quote #46: "<brendan> tip - don't pet a burning dog" (added by chris_n at 11:08 PM, November 13, 2009)
14:21 jdavidb      @quote random
13:54 jdavidb      mornin', schuster.
13:40 magnus       not a problem for me at the moment, i just need to remember it for the future... ;-)
13:40 magnus       only trouble is: that will apply to all sites running off that codebase
13:39 jdavidb      You betcha.  Glad I could help.
13:39 magnus       nope, koha-tmpl did the trick, thanks.
13:38 jdavidb      If you get a 404, then try the intranet-tmpl and/or opac-tmpl dirs.
13:38 munin        collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is 8.2�C (8:35 AM EST on March 12, 2010). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005.3 hPa (Falling).
13:38 collum       @wunder 41011
13:37 jdavidb      koha-tmpl, or one of its' subdirectories, surely, magnus.  I'd suggest dropping it in koha-tmpl, then try to get it from the opac and staff URLs:  http://site.org/robots.txt    If you get it, then that's where it goes.  ;-)
13:29 magnus       README.robots says: "If you have installed Koha to /usr/local/koha3 then [robots.txt] would be placed in the directory /usr/local/koha3/opac/htdocs/". Where would that be on a dev install?
13:14 * jwagner    doesn't like it. At least my joints don't :-(
13:13 * jdavidb    likes slow, soaking rain like we got overnight, and are getting patches of now.
13:12 jdavidb      Much warmer than we have been, but kinda damp & gray here.
13:12 cait         oh
13:12 munin        jdavidb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 10.1�C (8:11 AM EST on March 12, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Steady).  Flood Watch in effect through Saturday evening... 
13:12 jdavidb      @wunder 20817
13:11 munin        cait: The current temperature in Leipzig Schkeuditz, Germany is 5.0�C (1:50 PM CET on March 12, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
13:11 cait         @wunder leipzig, germany
13:11 munin        cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 2.0�C (2:00 PM CET on March 12, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
13:11 cait         @wunder konstanz
13:08 jdavidb      Hi, cait.  :D
13:08 cait         and hi jdavidb
13:07 jdavidb      lol
13:07 munin        jdavidb: Quote #40: "<tomascohen> hi everyone, just wanted to say I'm happy i managed to bypass the firewall to be with you *** tomascohen quit (Remote host closed the connection)" (added by ricardo at 11:05 AM, October 08, 2009)
13:07 jdavidb      @quote random
13:06 magnus       thanx!
13:06 jwagner      And cait
13:06 jwagner      And to you, magnus...
13:03 magnus       god dag jwagner
12:50 cait         guten morgen jwagner :)
12:50 jwagner      Good morning all.
09:59 juan-xercode hi hdl_laptop
09:57 hdl_laptop   hi juan-xercode
07:57 magnus       hiya Ropuch
07:57 Ropuch       Hi magnus
07:52 magnus       good morning, #koha
07:13 Ropuch       Morning #koha
04:03 wajasu       another question. if my marc record has n items, does koha maintain the 008/17-19 accordinlgy?
03:56 wajasu       any cataloguers who would know?
03:55 wajasu       i'm thinking that setting $t for the first item is superfluous, and maybe industry practice starts with 1 for the second item.
03:54 wajasu       do i start my second item withh $t2 or $t1?
03:53 wajasu       do i put a $t1 in my 952 for the first item?
03:53 wajasu       now i wonder what the standard is for setting copy number.
03:53 wajasu       i got my holdings in my 952 fields.  got multiple items added to each marc record for my bulk import.
03:36 Amit_G       hi brendan
03:34 brendan      heya Amit_G
03:28 Amit_G       hi all
01:42 munin        richard: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (2:00 PM NZDT on March 12, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
01:42 richard      @weather wellington, new zealand
01:41 richard      aye carumba, not so warm
01:34 munin        ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 6.0�C (8:00 PM EST on March 11, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
01:34 ebegin       @weather montreal, quebec
01:34 munin        ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 6.0�C (8:00 PM EST on March 11, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
01:34 ebegin       @wunder montreal, quebec