Time  Nick            Message
22:50 CGI722          will do
22:50 wizzyrea_       let us know how it turns out :)
22:50 CGI722          ok, appreciate it
22:50 wizzyrea_       sure thing
22:50 wizzyrea_       the weekend is rough time to get folks, but come sunday/monday people will be around again
22:49 CGI722          thanks for the help!
22:49 CGI722          i will give that a shot
22:49 CGI722          jk
22:49 wizzyrea_       Nooooo!
22:49 CGI722          i'm going to cut and paste that and hold you to it
22:49 wizzyrea_       ;)
22:49 * wizzyrea_     hates to commit to statements like that
22:49 CGI722          haha gotcha
22:48 wizzyrea_       (most likely :))
22:48 wizzyrea_       in theory, yea
22:48 CGI722          as long as i install the same releaseA?
22:48 CGI722          i should be able to keep the data intact yes?
22:48 CGI722          i can redo the install on a debian vm
22:48 CGI722          ok
22:48 wizzyrea_       it really works the very best on debian
22:48 CGI722          nope
22:47 wizzyrea_       are you married to centOS?
22:47 wizzyrea_       centOS... hmmm...
22:46 CGI722          think trying the 3.2.0 alpha would be worth a shot? or is that just a waste of time/
22:45 wizzyrea_       hrm
22:43 CGI722          i just used cpan to install them, let it handle the dependencies
22:43 CGI722          would an incompatibility with a perl module cause this?  I had to install quite a few of these to get the install to work
22:42 CGI722          i tried this too, took longer, rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -v
22:41 CGI722          i tried a reindex with rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z -a -v
22:41 wizzyrea_       sok :)
22:41 wizzyrea_       or, it stops showing on the 2nd
22:41 brendan         ok sorry distracted and off on another window :)
22:41 wizzyrea_       and that wouldn't explain why they can find one item, but the 2nd doesn't show up
22:41 CGI722          i did try a reindex
22:41 wizzyrea_       doesn't usually 404 on that though, at least I've never seen that
22:41 brendan         wizzyrea_ could just be an indexing issue
22:40 CGI722          not sure what i'm looking at though
22:40 CGI722          sweet
22:39 pastebot        "CGI722" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "backtrace from a query that gets a 404" (174 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/4
22:39 wizzyrea_       just be sure to set your channel :)
22:38 wizzyrea_       http://paste.workbuffer.org/
22:38 wizzyrea_       you can paste it here
22:38 CGI722          looks like i got a perl backtrace
22:37 * wizzyrea_     doesn't do it that way, usually
22:37 wizzyrea_       but I didn't know for sure
22:37 wizzyrea_       yea, standard install I think is /var/log/koha/koha-error_log or somesuch
22:36 brendan         it's something like koha/var/log
22:36 CGI722          its internal right now
22:36 wizzyrea_       is this public on the internet? Could we look at it?
22:35 CGI722          i see it, they are quite large
22:35 wizzyrea_       then tail -f /path/to/koha-error_log
22:35 CGI722          in var logs
22:34 wizzyrea_       you could try a locate koha-error_log
22:33 wizzyrea_       <- can only keep so much in her mind at once
22:33 wizzyrea_       yea, I'd look at the koha log on the server; I can't remember what the default standard install location for it is, brendan probably knows though
22:32 CGI722          I just installed this yesterday, so I'm pretty inexperienced with using it and troubleshooting
22:31 CGI722          i'm checking the Koha Log Viewer
22:31 wizzyrea_       or the log within the web interface?
22:31 wizzyrea_       the log on the server?
22:30 CGI722          i'm not really sure if it's helpful...i don't see any debugging output, just ADD, MODIFY, DELETE entries
22:30 CGI722          well....
22:27 wizzyrea_       does your koha log say anything?
22:26 CGI722          i guess i could blow away all the data, and enter 1 book and see what happens
22:26 wizzyrea_       well usually it works
22:26 CGI722          does this sound like a bug or maybe I just didn't setup the site correctly?
22:25 brendan         hi wizzyrea_
22:24 CGI722          with all these options i could change these for a week!
22:24 CGI722          still get a 404
22:24 CGI722          same problem
22:23 wizzyrea_       bye schuster
22:23 schuster        by all.
22:23 CGI722          lol it's cool, let me try thanks
22:23 wizzyrea_       722, try turning them on
22:23 wizzyrea_       wrong person lol
22:23 wizzyrea_       er
22:23 wizzyrea_       brendan: try turning  them on
22:22 CGI722          Set to Off for XSLTDetailsDisplay and XSLTResultsDisplay
22:22 wizzyrea_       system administration -> preferences search for XSLT
22:21 CGI722          hmm where is that? haha
22:21 CGI722          no idea, let me check
22:21 wizzyrea_       XSLT stylesheets for opac, on or off?
22:21 CGI722          yes
22:21 wizzyrea_       um um
22:21 wizzyrea_       OH
22:21 wizzyrea_       and it works with one item, but adding another gives a 404...
22:20 CGI722          so for that particular case, item type is book for both entries
22:20 CGI722          yeah, was using the default item types
22:20 wizzyrea_       ;)
22:20 wizzyrea_       man, i've failed at installing koha in so many creative ways
22:19 wizzyrea_       you have itemtypes defined and all that?
22:19 brendan         wow wizzyrea_ way to be nice!
22:19 CGI722          haha ok, well that makes me feel a little better
22:19 wizzyrea_       like, something I've seen in my many failures at installing koha...
22:18 wizzyrea_       oh this sounds very vaguely familiar...
22:16 CGI722          do you think i am adding items incorrectly?
22:15 brendan         maybe someone else here will help out
22:15 brendan         hmmm.. I haven't seen that before
22:15 CGI722          and we get a valid result
22:15 CGI722          if i remove the second item i added, the 404 goes away
22:15 CGI722          when do see the title in the search results, but clicking the title is when we get the 404
22:14 CGI722          this would be another item with a different barcode, but same title
22:14 CGI722          but if we add another item to the same record, we get a 404 page
22:13 CGI722          when we add 1 item to a record, public queries work
22:13 CGI722          so we added a couple of items manually just to test the system out
22:13 CGI722          during the import, the records came over but no items
22:13 CGI722          imported about 20k MARC records
22:12 CGI722          sweet! thanks....we just installed koha 3.00.004 on a CentOS 5.3 box
22:12 brendan         go ahead and ask
22:11 CGI722          can someone help a koha newbie out?
21:55 jwagner         But I'll worry about it on Monday.  Have a good weekend, everyone.
21:54 jwagner         I think it's a helpful desk staff person....
21:53 brendan         :)
21:52 jwagner         No, server is definitely East Coast time -- everything else is OK.
21:52 brendan         but I wouldn't think that was totally true (just a guess)
21:52 brendan         could also be the server is on UTC time and not east cost time
21:32 jwagner         I think time zone accounts for the email difference, but the timestamp is too far off for that.  I'll have the site librarian interrogate her staff :-)
21:31 wizzyrea_       like, the bookdrop was processed late
21:31 jwagner         Hmmm.  Time zone could be a possibility too -- server is on east coast, site/user is on west coast.
21:31 wizzyrea_       jwagner: any time we've seen anything like that it's always been human intervention
21:31 brendan         it could also be a difference between the time on the server (where mysql gets it timestamp) versus the time that the browser is using (but don't quote me on that one)
21:31 jwagner         The grace period in circ rules only applies to fines, right? Not to overdues?
21:29 jwagner         I have a puzzler where an overdue notice went out after the item was allegedly returned.  The copy of the email notice has a date/time that doesn't match the message queue, and the item record shows a return date of one thing while the timestamp is a day later.  I'm wondering if someone is monkeying with bookdrop or something.
21:28 brendan         most likely that should be your answer
21:28 brendan         not sure about that -
21:26 jwagner         What would touch it in the old_issues table?  Anything besides the act of checking it in? (i.e., moving from issues to old_issues)
21:25 brendan         timestamp is a mysql thing meaning the last time that row was touched
21:23 jwagner         In the old_issues table, is the timestamp the date/time the item was returned?
20:40 wizzyrea_       gnite cait
20:40 cait            will go to bed - good night #koha!
20:21 jwagner         3-0 US over Finland, early in first period :-)
20:16 pianohackr|work hola, jdavidb
20:15 chris           back later
20:15 pabloab         I was trying to fix someones, but I wasn't brave enough to move from here to there, perhaps breaking something
20:14 chris           today im going to the dragon boat festival
20:14 chris           but not today
20:14 chris           im gonna try to make it use mysql instead
20:14 chris           i have one more thing to try, currently pootle is using sqlite for its stats, now tha file is 1.8gig
20:13 gmcharlt        I've no objection in principle, but some of the URLs such as the git tutorial are now well known URLs
20:13 chris           pabloab: just time
20:13 jdavidb         hi, pianohackr|work!  :)
20:13 gmcharlt        there's been at least one major namespace move recently that wasn't completed
20:12 pabloab         Another: There is a reason why no one on english community dares to move all those articles to en:wiki namespace ?
20:09 pabloab         Excelent! Thanks!
20:09 gmcharlt        pabloab: yep
20:08 cait            chris++
20:08 cait            chris: sorry was afk, pootle works fine for me
20:08 pabloab         oops! just clean all the content? I'm familiar with wikipedia, where only "vip users" (librarians) can delete
20:07 chris           bbiab
20:06 chris           and its gone
20:06 chris           then delete links to it
20:06 gmcharlt        pabloab: edit the page, set it to empty
20:06 pabloab         I was trying to cleanup things (is a mess!)
20:06 chris           anyone with a login
20:05 chris           anyone does
20:05 pabloab         Just a simple question! Someone know who have rights to delete articles on koha's wiki?
20:04 chris           hiya pabloab
20:04 pabloab         Hi all!
20:04 chris           nengard: cool thanks
20:03 chris           hehe yeah
20:03 nengard         chris - works here - a bit slow  but it works
20:03 * gmcharlt      looked at the completion bar for Basque, blinked, then realized that it was just for the Gnome terminology set
20:01 chris           seems to be working as it should
20:00 chris           cait: can you give it a try
20:00 chris           ok translate.koha.org is back
20:00 chris           its bright blue sky .. sunscreen day today
20:00 chris           ill pass you in about 20 mins i think gmcharlt
20:00 munin           gmcharlt: The current temperature in FoxFire Woods, Gainesville, Florida is 14.4�C (2:59 PM EST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Falling).
19:59 gmcharlt        @wunder 32605
19:58 munin           chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on February 27, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
19:58 chris           @wunder wellington, nz
19:44 brendan         hi nelsonf
19:43 munin           cait: Quote #52: "<wizzyrea> Ahh, it's like putting on your slippers" (added by gmcharlt at 03:50 PM, January 28, 2010)
19:43 cait            @quote random
19:43 * cait          is waiting with chris
19:42 munin           brendan: Quote #14: "joetho: I only looked for missing ccodes- not dysfunctional orphans." (added by wizzyrea at 04:31 PM, July 09, 2009)
19:42 brendan         @quote random
19:41 chris           waiting waiting, halfway thru the intranet po files now
19:30 munin           jdavidb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 19 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 19.
19:30 jdavidb         @karma jwagner
19:30 munin           jdavidb: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 17 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 17.
19:30 jdavidb         @karma jdavidb
19:30 * jwagner       tells jdavidb Harrumph. Leave my karma alone!
19:24 chris           ok, upgrade done, now im refreshing stats then ill start pootle again
19:20 cait            chris: good luck!
19:17 * jdavidb       has done a weary-ingly-large amount of work this week, most of it invisibly.
19:16 jdavidb         thanx, brendan!
19:15 * brendan       should make sure he's on the right screen
19:15 jdavidb         'sides, if you decrement on patch-count, I'd be ahead of jwagner, maybe...  now then....hmmm.
19:15 brendan         funny how my linux# doesn't understand that command
19:14 brendan         jdavidb++
19:14 * cait          blushes
19:14 gmcharlt        agreed
19:14 jdavidb         gmcharlt:  oh, I don't mind getting incremented on patches.  But is nice to get incremented on other stuff too.
19:14 gmcharlt        jdavidb: I can always decrement one whenever I push one of your patches, if you would prefer ;)
19:13 chris           we'll soon find out
19:13 chris           which might make it stop crashing, or it might break everything
19:13 chris           gonna try upgrading pootle from 2.0.0 to 2.0.2
19:13 jdavidb         Sure you are.  Patches are not the only thing that make a good community, and karma isn't tied to patch-count (don't tell gmcharlt I said that.)  you're nice to have around here.
19:13 gmcharlt        cait++ # we disagree
19:12 cait            but not sure I m worth that much karma
19:11 cait            wow thx jdavidb
19:11 jdavidb         cait++  # agreeing with brendan.
19:11 chris           make sure to ask for an exit row on the flight to NZ
19:10 chris           i hear that
19:10 chris           hehe
19:10 brendan         s/I/my
19:09 brendan         I was crammed in the corner and I body felt like a big C
19:09 brendan         I think it was the plane flights -- the people I was sitting next too - should have had two seats to themselves instead of one
19:09 chris           that and the fact you usually sleep way less than you need at conferences :)
19:08 chris           yeah hotel beds can really mess you up
19:08 cait            oh thx :)
19:08 brendan         cait++
19:08 munin           cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
19:08 cait            @karma cait
19:07 brendan         :)
19:07 munin           brendan: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 16 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 16.
19:07 brendan         @karma brendan
19:07 brendan         amazing how little things like that have such a big effect
19:07 brendan         hi cait
19:07 brendan         so finally home and slept in my bed...  did wonders for my neck and back :)
19:06 chris           hi cait
19:06 cait            hi chris and brendan
19:06 chris           hiya brendan
19:06 chris           day even
19:06 brendan         morning chris
19:06 chris           gonna be a nice date
19:06 munin           brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.3�C (11:01 AM PST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Rising).  Flash Flood Watch in effect for the recent burn areas from this evening through Saturday evening...
19:06 brendan         @wunder 93117
19:06 munin           chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on February 27, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
19:06 chris           @wunder wellington, nz
19:06 brendan         owen++
19:06 brendan         ooooH  close one
19:05 munin           brendan: Highest karma: "chris" (110), "gmcharlt" (109), and "owen" (89).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-43), "failed" (-26), and "-" (-21).  You (brendan) are ranked 18 out of 723.
19:05 brendan         @karma
18:09 jwagner         and I was enjoying the peace and quiet :-)
18:09 brendan         thanks gmcharlt++
18:09 gmcharlt        that help?
18:09 brendan         YEAH!
18:09 gmcharlt        BOOM!
18:08 brendan         hmmm...  quiet at the moment
17:13 munin           brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.3�C (9:11 AM PST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Rising).  Flash Flood Watch in effect for the recent burn areas from this evening through Saturday evening...
17:13 brendan         @wunder 93117
17:13 brendan         morning #koha
17:04 nengard         loaded for me finally
17:01 owen            translate.koha.org seems to be going down daily now
17:01 nengard         doesn't look like it on my end
17:00 gmcharlt        is anybody else able to get to translate.koha.org?
16:35 nengard         training bugs all reported ... sorry to those dealing with reports/acq and serials :(
16:19 jwagner         hdl_laptop or paul_p, online?
16:09 schuster        LOL...  Thanks...  Trying to figure out time conversions...
16:07 owen            I'm just letting everyone know that I think you'd make a good room mate :)
16:06 schuster        owen - meaning same question or? vouches - I would be allowed to come? ;)
16:05 * owen          vouches for schuster
16:05 schuster        Is anyone looking for a room mate ???
16:03 schuster        Just trying to see if I could swing it.  Problem would be the majority of the expense coming out of my pocket...
16:02 schuster        4 day hackfest.
16:02 schuster        Oct 25th is a monday - 3 day conference - ends Wednesday.  So Thursday/Friday - then a free weekend? hackfest continues Monday/Tuesday?
16:01 schuster        I have a question while looking at the KohaCon 2010 information.
15:45 kf              bye #koha and have a nice weekend all
15:38 gmcharlt        fallor: cool - go for it - if you can do a patch, that would be great
15:37 jwagner         I've had a problem with watching the hockey -- I'm an NHL hockey fan, so I have favorite players scattered across multiple national teams.  Sometimes hard to know which side to cheer for!
15:36 fallor          well as a finn you know what i'll be cheering ;)
15:34 jwagner         despite the women's team loss yesterday....
15:33 * jwagner       is cheering on USA!
15:33 owen            Or examples of unapi being used with other systems?
15:33 fallor          exiting... :)
15:32 fallor          finland-usa hockey @22 :)
15:32 owen            Is anyone doing anything interesting with unapi and Koha?
15:32 fallor          now to home, big evening today
15:31 fallor          i'm not an expert in this kind of things in any way, but i'll let you know if i succeed in doing something about it
15:31 fallor          i'll see if there is something i can do about it myself
15:30 * jwagner       hands gmcharlt a time machine to get more hours in the day
15:28 gmcharlt        fallor: we'll see - I also have to get a release of 3.2 out, after all
15:27 wizzyrea_       patience is a virtue
15:26 fallor          can you estimate how long will it take?
15:26 gmcharlt        no
15:26 fallor          gmcharlt: will that be a hard thing to fix?
15:24 gmcharlt        owen: sure
15:20 owen            gmcharlt: Okay if I assign this one to you?
15:18 fallor          strange things...
15:17 paul_p2         should be a bug in xslt view
15:17 paul_p2         oups... sorry, you're right
15:17 gmcharlt        owen: they do not
15:15 owen            paul_p2: The XSL views don't use GetMarcSubjects do they?
15:14 fallor          where does that excess 7 come from??
15:11 paul_p2         strange, it's almost the same code (unimarc skip $2$3$4$5 where marc21 skip only $2)
15:10 paul_p2         it's in C4/Biblio.pm/GetMarcSubjects
15:08 paul_p2         owen: yep, it's 6xx
15:08 owen            paul_p2: What are UNIMARC's subject tags? Is it a range of numbers like MARC21's 6** ?
15:06 fallor          what's this about?
15:06 fallor          doesn't seem too linear for me :D
15:06 fallor          it went from 1524, 15257, 15283, 152847
15:03 fallor          (whatonearth...?)
15:03 fallor          whoops, barcode generator started acting up
14:59 paul_p2         mmm... I suspect it's a marc21 related bug, because in UNIMARC it works well
14:57 magnus          owen: changed it to XSLT now, doesn't look too good (on HEAD)
14:57 owen            Hm... Actually it looks like this is still a problem
14:55 owen            That's the right kind of thing, but fallor's looking at the XSL view
14:54 magnus          is "Computer networks  --Law and legislation  --United States." here: http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=2 an appropriate example?
14:48 munin           04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4276 normal, P5, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, NEW, "Related subjects" search is OPAC doesn't work with chained subject terms
14:48 owen            paul_p2: Perhaps you or hdl_laptop could test Bug 4276 in 3.0.x? I suspect it's fixed in a more recent version than fallor has
14:45 fallor          that's a shame :(
14:43 paul_p2         (LL Entreprise Koha)
14:43 paul_p2         publicly => sept, 11th, when they announced publicly LLEK
14:43 paul_p2         something like 6 months ?
14:43 fallor          so how long has this been going on?
14:42 fallor          whoa! :D
14:42 paul_p2         yep, I agree with owen
14:42 owen            I think that characterization is unfair to Google ;)
14:42 fallor          they take everything they can but give practically nothing back
14:41 fallor          so liblime is becoming sort of a google of oss-librarysystems
14:40 fallor          so much for the ethics side on that...
14:40 owen            No, but as long as they're hosting Koha for their customers, and as long as their customers never ask to see the actual code...
14:39 fallor          still they can't change the license can they?
14:39 owen            Just because it's GPL doesn't mean they can't fork
14:39 fallor          ah, ok
14:39 owen            Check http://koha-community.org/ for current news
14:38 fallor          i thought it's all gpl
14:38 owen            But they won't give us access to koha.org, so we can't change the links there
14:38 fallor          err... how is that possible?
14:38 owen            LibLime has forked Koha. They don't release their developments to the community anymore.
14:38 fallor          oh, they don't?
14:37 owen            LibLime doesn't use real Koha, so don't check their demos
14:37 fallor          the demo system on liblime.com seems to do the same, i'm not sure which version that is
14:36 fallor          3.00.00.107 is the exact version
14:36 fallor          it's 3.00.something, let me check that for you
14:35 owen            Hi fallor, I was asking about your Koha version.
14:35 fallor          i'm repeating myself
14:35 fallor          owen: yep, still here (or rather again)
14:34 fallor          owen: yep, i'm still here
14:29 jwagner         Nah, the time for shovels was a couple of weeks ago.  We're only supposed to get an inch or two max out of this one.
14:28 owen            Now we know where to bring the shovels if you stop broadcasting
14:27 jwagner         does that help, owen?
14:27 munin           jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 0.8�C (9:27 AM EST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.38 in 994.8 hPa (Falling).  High Wind Warning in effect until 6 PM EST this evening... 
14:27 jwagner         @wunder 20740
14:27 nengard         she's just seeing them now - that helps a bit - the rest of us on the east have had it non stop since yesterday
14:27 owen            That doesn't help pin down your location very accurately jwagner
14:26 nengard         LOL
14:24 jwagner         I see snowflakes out my window!
14:20 nengard         okey dokey!!
14:17 gmcharlt        not pushed yet, will be working on patches this weekend
14:17 munin           04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3881 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain@biblibre.com, NEW, No Page for Opac Privacy
14:17 nengard         gmcharlt and paul_p2 what's the status on bug 3881 ?
14:09 * owen          really needs to set up an install of 3.0.x for testing
13:54 magnus          (or she, for all i know)
13:54 magnus          owen: he mentioned http://koha.kepa.fi/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1720 which says <meta name="generator" content="Koha 3.0000107" />
13:50 * owen          is wondering what version of Koha fallor is running
13:50 owen            fallor still here?
13:47 munin           kf: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 08:11 AM, July 27, 2009)
13:47 kf              @quote random
13:41 munin           jdavidb: Quote #14: "joetho: I only looked for missing ccodes- not dysfunctional orphans." (added by wizzyrea at 04:31 PM, July 09, 2009)
13:41 jdavidb         @quote random
13:41 tomascohen      that was great
13:40 munin           jwagner: Quote #40: "<tomascohen> hi everyone, just wanted to say I'm happy i managed to bypass the firewall to be with you *** tomascohen quit (Remote host closed the connection)" (added by ricardo at 11:05 AM, October 08, 2009)
13:40 jwagner         @quote random
13:22 jwagner         Never mind....
13:22 jwagner         gmcharlt, I think that's the case.  Just checked a current head system and it still uses the an: -- we have authority records in the system.
13:21 gmcharlt        otherwise, the search on subject terms is used isntead
13:21 gmcharlt        jwagner: q=an: I think is used only if a heading is linked to an authority via a subfield $9
13:20 jwagner         Looks like major changes to that area?
13:20 jwagner         I'm looking on an OPAC at roughly .061 level and the related subject query link looks like q=an:3663
13:20 jdavidb         lol
13:19 munin           jdavidb: Quote #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)" (added by chris at 03:59 PM, June 23, 2009)
13:19 jdavidb         @quote random
13:19 fallor          ok, will do :)
13:19 gmcharlt        fallor: does sound like a bug - file a report at bugs.koha.org
13:18 gmcharlt        sorry, couldn't resist
13:18 munin           gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #62 added.
13:18 gmcharlt        @quote add <fallor> is this a known thingy?
13:18 fallor          is this a known thingy?
13:18 fallor          which is what you'd expect
13:18 fallor          instead of "su:maailmanmusiikki and su:[whatever]"
13:17 fallor          all the links do the search with "su:maailmanmusiikki"
13:17 fallor          for example: http://koha.kepa.fi/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1720
13:16 fallor          clicking on chained subject terms only does the search with the first term in the chain
13:15 fallor          Related subjects doesn't work right when using XSLTDetailsDisplay
13:14 fallor          i think i found a bug in OPAC
13:14 jwagner         The best of both worlds!  They say we may get a little snow today off the back side of the storm.
13:13 nengard         it's 'blizzard conditions'
13:13 nengard         we have the wind too :)
13:13 jwagner         One can cope with snow, but you can't shovel wind....
13:13 jwagner         nengard, not sure about that.  The wind is REALLY strong (gusts 50-60 mph) which makes it VERY cold out there....
13:11 munin           nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is -3.3�C (8:00 AM EST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa (Rising).  Winter Storm Warning in effect until noon EST today... 
13:11 nengard         @wunder 19030
13:11 nengard         jwagner - i'd rather have high wind over my forcast
13:11 nengard         okay - i've added more acquisitions documentation - i think we could use an acq tutorial day hosted by biblibre :)
13:04 fallor          hi #koha :)
13:01 munin           jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 0.1�C (8:01 AM EST on February 26, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.37 in 994.5 hPa (Falling).  High Wind Warning in effect until 6 PM EST this evening... 
13:01 jwagner         @wunder 20740
12:45 nengard         gmcharlt - okay  -well I submitted follow ups to remove those errors anyway :)
12:44 gmcharlt        nengard: trailing whitespace doesn't really matter as far as Koha source files are concerned
12:23 paul_p2         good morning nengard & gmcharlt
12:23 nengard         I have a 'trailing whitespace' question ... I'm getting these errors for patches of mine that haven't been pushed yet ... is this an issue on tmpl files? or just pl files?
12:22 nengard         morning all
12:11 kf              hi gmcharlt
11:26 gmcharlt        greetings #koha
09:02 IrmaCalyx       Have a good day
09:01 IrmaCalyx       :-) I am off for some dinner ... Good evening all.
09:00 IrmaCalyx       Our days have started to be noticably shorter since a week or so ... but happy it's giving you the early taste of spring  ... mostly!
08:56 IrmaCalyx       It's been a long winter! Enjoy
08:55 paul_p          IrmaCalyx: yep, thanks. it's friday, the week end should be sunny, we feel spring coming.
08:55 IrmaCalyx       hi Paul Ca va?
08:55 IrmaCalyx       Thanks magnus...
08:55 magnus          hi paul_p
08:54 paul_p          hi irma & magnus (& anyone else around)
08:53 IrmaCalyx       Something else might be happening. Client just emailed. Ok, sounds like I will have to ask my team
08:52 magnus          that doesn't sound huge...
08:51 IrmaCalyx       It's less than 1.500 paton records
08:50 magnus          i would try dividing the file into smaller files if it's huge
08:50 IrmaCalyx       I see ...
08:49 magnus          there may be limits set by your server
08:49 IrmaCalyx       The error message said: Request Entity Too Large
08:48 IrmaCalyx       so the file size can be unlimited?
08:48 magnus          that would be nice... but i never heard of a limit...
08:47 IrmaCalyx       I can send you some sunshine and heat in exchange...
08:46 IrmaCalyx       Perhaps an answer magnus? ^.^
08:45 IrmaCalyx       does not allow request data with POST requests, or the amount of data provided in the request exceeds the capacity limit.
08:45 IrmaCalyx       The requested resource
08:44 IrmaCalyx       What is the max of rows for a bulk patron import?
08:44 IrmaCalyx       Sure it has been asked before
08:44 magnus          you can try... ;-)
08:44 IrmaCalyx       Without looking it up...
08:43 IrmaCalyx       May I be lazy and ask 1 question?
08:43 IrmaCalyx       sorry ... last interruption ...now that my daughters are out to enjoy their Friday evening meet-up with friends
08:38 IrmaCalyx       hi all
08:27 magnus          chris: ah yes, the old access to assets issue... :-(
08:24 Amit_G          heya kf,, Ropuch
08:20 kf              good morning
08:17 chris           hi IrmaCalyx
08:07 chris           but again, we cant change that
08:07 chris           just Koha Wiki would do
08:07 chris           theres is lots of non developer stuff on there, including install guides
08:06 chris           not really the sql library, the meetings agenda/minutes ... the kohausers table etc
08:02 * magnus        wonders if wiki.koha.org should really be called Koha *Developer* Wiki
06:57 Ropuch          Morning #koha
03:56 Amit_G          Any one tested koha-alpha on Centos5
03:42 Amit_G          hi richard
03:39 * richard       reads back and realises that looking at the kohacon registration page isn't the same as filling it in
03:39 richard         hi amit
03:34 Amit_G          good morning chris
03:34 Amit_G          hi all
01:14 chris           yup
01:14 Jo              though I think she was planning to retire :)
01:14 Jo              reflecting that Rosalie being fully prepared as a koha 3.2 trainer can only be a good thing for NZ koha prospects
01:09 chris           probably be lots of crossover
01:09 chris           good idea :)
01:09 russ            chris: sister site to our credit card one :-) ?
00:51 chris           and list ones that have surcharges
00:51 chris           cantbudget.co.nz
00:51 chris           maybe ill start
00:50 Jo              thats a powerful message
00:49 chris           ive started asking, then leaving if they do
00:48 chris           :)
00:48 chris           ill make a list of them
00:48 chris           well theres quite a few now that don't
00:48 russ            that is a bit of a pain - all the cafe's will have their stupid holiday surcharge
00:47 russ            heh i didnt realise the first day of conf is labour day
00:46 chris           as a tentative date
00:46 Jo              so we suggest 28th Oct to the mayor
00:45 chris           and maybe get you to forward it to the librarian type lists
00:45 Jo              sure.
00:45 chris           but we havent really started a registration drive yet, will send out another email after the next meeting
00:45 Jo              i am planning to bring 2 down with me (have booked 2 room apartment)
00:44 chris           so far (excluding, russ, jo and mark osborne) all the registrations have been from overseas
00:44 Jo              of course. ok - will say may be 50-150 :)
00:44 chris           but yeah it wouldnt be much more than that
00:44 chris           which might want to come to the reception, but not the conference
00:43 chris           because ppl are bringing partners
00:43 chris           well yes and no
00:43 Jo              cool :)
00:43 Jo              for planning, quoting purposes? - and I know they are all best guesses
00:43 russ            less than 120 as that is all the room can hold
00:42 Jo              do we have any estimates at all on numbers we could be xpecting?
00:42 chris           yeah thats a good idea
00:42 Jo              might try and tie it into tea on way back to wgtn
00:42 Jo              and will strat the inquiry process with the mayor and suggest it would be thursday early eveningveing
00:42 chris           im sure we could get a reporter or 2 along
00:41 Jo              ok. Ill get some quotes and bring them to next community meeting
00:41 chris           yup
00:41 Jo              train etc would be nightmare
00:41 chris           i figure get some quotes cant hurt
00:41 chris           :)
00:41 Jo              you know : selling our region to international tourists who will go and tell everyone at home how pretty naturte coast is
00:41 chris           yeah, wouldnt want to do that on any of the conference days, but maybe the first day of the hackfest could finish early
00:40 Jo              there might be marketing grant which could pay for the bus
00:40 Jo              true.
00:40 Jo              leaving wgtn at 4pm would mean we still get a good solid chunk of productivity
00:40 chris           yeah but it might be nice to have that break, 3 days of thinking .. have a break and get back into
00:40 Jo              but we would lose a productive day
00:39 Jo              yep
00:39 chris           and start the hackfest on friday
00:39 Jo              would be neat but maybe too hard ....
00:39 chris           yeah, the other option would be the day after, ie thursday
00:39 Jo              but would have to be leaving wgtn by 4pm to get away ahead of the traffic
00:39 chris           yup
00:39 Jo              starting to get lighter october / november
00:38 Jo              late afternoon / evening
00:38 chris           it would be neat tho
00:38 chris           yeah
00:38 chris           it will eat up a good chunk of a day
00:38 Jo              coz it is 1.5 hours drive each way
00:38 Jo              yep
00:38 chris           the other thing is the time factor
00:38 chris           can't hurt
00:38 Jo              I'll get a quote aye
00:37 Jo              buses I guess
00:37 chris           yeah
00:37 russ            but transporting that number to levin could be an issue
00:37 chris           wasnt part of the plan to do that as part of the road trip?
00:37 russ            right
00:37 Jo              I did poiont out it could feasibly be anything between 100 - 300 people but they wreren't fazed by that :)
00:37 chris           i think you need to talk to Mark at ASHS about that
00:36 Jo              just writing that letter and wondered about which date we should suggest.
00:36 Jo              welcome them to Horowhenua etc
00:36 Jo              the other thing is that the Councillors who were at our meeting suggested that the mayor should be asked / invited to host a mayoral reception for KohaCon attendees
00:35 Jo              waves and blows kisses at the entire Koha community :)
00:35 Jo              I don't imagine that will cause any ruckus in the Koha community.
00:35 * braedon|work  feels rejected
00:34 Jo              waves at Russ too :)
00:34 chris           sounds fair enough to me
00:34 russ            :-)
00:34 Jo              Trustees acceopted the koha rules with 1 change - that people with criminal convictions are not eleigible to be officeholders on the Koha subcommittee
00:33 Jo              me the stranger that is
00:33 Jo              hello stranger
00:33 Jo              Chris :)
00:19 chris           hi Jo
00:09 braedon|work    ahoy Jo
00:08 Jo              hi all