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23:15 Genji so im having to loop through all the db, getting all the subjects, and their occurances, by hand.
23:13 Genji why im doing this, is because zebra is indexing marcfield 653 subjects - phrases, by words, and not total string.. even though 'melm 653 subjects:p'
23:11 Genji yay.
23:10 gmcharlt is the missing bit
23:09 gmcharlt Genji: binmode STDOUT, ":utf8"
23:09 Genji its still gives wide character in print error.
23:09 Genji print "$val\n";
23:09 Genji my $val = Encode::decode_utf8($value);
23:09 Genji hiya all
23:00 mdhafen how about I paste the code here? could you pass it to them?
23:00 mdhafen oh well.
22:59 chris doesnt look like i can get to it
22:59 mdhafen I modified it anyway :)
22:57 chris ill look
22:55 mdhafen if you can get to that I'll fix it.
22:55 mdhafen There is a url that might be accessible though. I'll have to update that code. it's koha-dev.washk12.org/stuff/html5_audio_text.html
22:54 mdhafen it isn't really right now. It's based on a patch I send to the patches list. I've already changed that though because IE doesn't like new lines in a quote.
22:53 chris i could ask the html dudes at work
22:52 chris is the page viewable on the web?
22:50 wizzyrea :)
22:47 mdhafen it's not easy for me, I use linux too. My librarians though... but that's another story :)
22:45 mdhafen I'm trying to find an alternative to the audio tag, which I expect chromium supports. Thanks anyway
22:45 chris again no help
22:44 chris chromium on linux here
22:44 * wizzyrea uses firefox/chrome on the mac, sorry :(
22:41 mdhafen any suggestions?
22:36 mdhafen I've got the classid of media player set, and the vorbis codec installed, and autostart in the params, but no luck.
22:35 mdhafen I need some help with Internet Explorer. I'm trying to get an object tag sourcing an .ogg file to play automatically.
22:21 wizzyrea bye!
22:21 schuster by for now...
22:20 wizzyrea so makes sense that you would trip up on it
22:20 wizzyrea not sure I even have that on mine, but I don't use pics
22:20 wizzyrea oh yea the magick stuff
22:20 wizzyrea ty kindly :)
22:19 schuster I had 4 items the Magick thing that I had to apt-get, and 3 others that I have noted on that laptop. I'll make sure they are on your log.
22:19 wizzyrea this last time it was on a pristine debian netinstall
22:18 schuster Did you do a fresh debian install or just a new install of koha?
22:18 schuster I have discovered it makes a difference on which Mirror you setup your debian from - it shouldn't but it has made a world of difference with the ...Simple dependancy for labels.
22:18 wizzyrea the only two I had trouble with were libjson and something about snowball :P
22:17 wizzyrea there are lots of dependencies :/
22:17 schuster All I know is trying to install 3.004, 3.005 was a bugger and I never got it quite right there was something always missing.
22:16 wizzyrea :)
22:16 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4151 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Document new perl modules for those upgrading
22:16 wizzyrea bug 4151
22:16 wizzyrea and 4151
22:16 wizzyrea with gmcharlt's guidance/help it'll get done
22:16 schuster Doesn't have all the dependancies etc...
22:16 wizzyrea ok, yea, I've been poking at those
22:15 wizzyrea OH
22:15 schuster INSTALL.debian-lenny instructions
22:15 wizzyrea you lost me first ;)
22:15 wizzyrea what is the it that needs updating?
22:15 schuster Well off to the family... see ya all tomorrow! Hopefully I will be able to do more 3.2 testing. I'm going to pull head again tonight.
22:14 munin schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 10.6�C (4:00 PM CST on February 24, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Falling).
22:14 schuster @wunder 75074
22:14 schuster OOO afternoon weather report
22:14 schuster wizzyrea ya lost me?
22:14 munin brendan: The current temperature in Sunset Mountain, Asheville, North Carolina is -0.4�C (5:13 PM EST on February 24, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 am EST Friday...
22:13 brendan @wunder asheville, nc
22:13 munin brendan: Error: No such location could be found.
22:13 brendan @wunder ashevill, nc
22:08 wizzyrea it = ?
22:06 schuster OK as long as someone edits it before the next "beta" release? I was still working off of the HEAD alpha instructions.
22:05 wizzyrea add anything new you find
22:05 gmcharlt yep
22:05 wizzyrea it's listed there :P
22:05 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4151 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Document new perl modules for those upgrading
22:05 wizzyrea bug 4151
22:04 schuster I'm still concerned about how to get all of those "required" pieces into the install. The apt-get magick piece still isn't automatic and several others are not listed. I hesitate to edit the document, but guess that's what the RM is for to make sure I do it right?
22:02 schuster hmmm libjson-perl isn't in the dependancies
22:00 wizzyrea in that case you could apt-get install libjson-perl
21:59 wizzyrea later seneca
21:59 seneca thanks again to all who helped, gotta run
21:59 wizzyrea mdhafen++
21:59 mdhafen debian package should be something like libjson-perl
21:58 mdhafen schuster: if insecure is set you probably don't need to be logged in.
21:58 wizzyrea but these fine folks probalby know what the debian package is
21:58 wizzyrea I think I did cpan -i JSON
21:58 wizzyrea you probably need to install JSON
21:58 wizzyrea oh, schuster
21:57 schuster well that would make sense as I'm not actually logged in!
21:57 schuster hmmm when I change it to "dont allow" I get an error that it can't be saved.
21:54 schuster Well I don't know the unders I was looking at it and it said Allow so I changed it to Don't Allow.
21:51 mdhafen schuster: I'm looking at the sysprefs.sql in the installer/mysql/en/mandatory, and it's set to 0 there? Where are you looking?
21:46 schuster I'm running against the current HEAD as of 2 days ago.
21:46 braedon|work thank google and stackoverflow :p http://stackoverflow.com/questions/945654/git-checkout-on-a-remote-branch-does-not-work
21:46 ccurry makes sense; it didn't exist when I set up this vid, so how could it. thanks for talking me through it.
21:46 mdhafen schuster: which branch are you looking at?
21:45 braedon|work git doesn't know about the branch
21:45 braedon|work that could be it apparently
21:45 ccurry doing so now
21:45 ccurry i did forget to fetch
21:45 mdhafen schuster: is it! that doesn't seem right to me.
21:44 schuster Just realized the default for syspref insecure (modified) - is set to Allow....??? even though it says you shouldn't do that?
21:44 braedon|work have you run a git fetch?
21:44 mdhafen ccurry: maybe splitting the command into it's components would reveal the source of the error. try first `git branch 3.0.5 v3.00.05` then `git checkout 3.0.5` and see where the error is.
21:43 ccurry I get the same error as root
21:43 braedon|work but probably best to chown it to someone, and not use sudo
21:42 braedon|work ok, so the sodo probably isn't the issue then
21:42 ccurry in my earlier, wilder days.
21:42 ccurry oops: root; I guess I did it with root originally.
21:41 ccurry i'll check
21:40 braedon|work (and contents(
21:40 braedon|work what is the owner of the kohaclone folder?
21:40 ccurry hmm; I get errors when I don't sudo; perhaps that's my problem. I think I used another user when I set this vid up.
21:39 braedon|work probably not related...
21:39 braedon|work git should be managed by one user - shouldn't need to sudo
21:38 ccurry yep
21:38 braedon|work why are you sudoing btw?
21:38 braedon|work it is lowercase
21:38 ccurry same error
21:38 braedon|work as in the tag name?
21:37 ccurry ah...I'll try that.
21:37 mdhafen ccurry: I think the v in v3.0.5 is supposed to be upper case
21:37 mdhafen ccurry: yeah, can't delete the branch you are on.
21:36 ccurry can I move out of the branch somehow and delete it?
21:36 ccurry oy
21:36 ccurry I also tried "sudo git-branch myinstall -d" and the following is shouted at me "error: Cannot delete the branch 'myinstall' which you are currently on."
21:35 mdhafen ccurry: ah, then I must be mistaken
21:35 ccurry I tried git status and got: "nothing to commit (working directory clean)"
21:35 mdhafen ccurry: I think the command is `git revert --hard HEAD`
21:34 ccurry how can i revert the changes?
21:34 ccurry ah...maybe I ran the makefile.pl
21:34 mdhafen ccurry: I think that error is because you have changed a file there. Git doesn't want to loose the change, so you have to either commit the change so git knows about it, or revert the change so it goes away
21:33 mdhafen I think there is more potential for a merge conflict when pulling from a branch that has used merge. But it's usually more convenient than having to recreate the link after they have rebased.
21:32 ccurry it's a vid I created, following all the steps of INSTALL.deb up to the perl Makefile.pl step.
21:31 ccurry I'm getting the following error wen executing "sudo git checkout -b 3.0.5 v3.00.05" on a virtualbox vid that has a "myinstall origin" branch on it already: fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches/forcing; Did you intend to checkout 'v3.00.05' which can not be resolved as commit? do I need to delete "myinstall" first?
21:30 * braedon|work better get back to work...
21:29 braedon|work yipyip
21:29 chris and then cherry-pick your commits over
21:29 chris you could checkout the new tag
21:29 chris but with git you have a ton of options
21:29 braedon|work ok, good to know
21:28 chris braedon|work: id merge
21:28 chris whereas a merge is safe
21:27 chris so you should never rebase on a branch that someone has pulled from
21:27 chris and you rebase it, causig commit id's to change, and then that person pulls from you again ... you make a huge mess of their repo
21:27 braedon|work ok, so if you have a branch created from tag version, which you make changes to, and you want to upgrade it to a new tag version, which should/can you use?
21:27 chris BUT if you have a public branch, that someone has pulled from
21:26 chris now for koha we rebase because we send patches
21:26 wizzyrea like, every day
21:26 wizzyrea because I use it all the time :P
21:26 braedon|work yip
21:26 wizzyrea oh plox update that
21:26 chris does (which is what git pull does by default)
21:26 chris git merge
21:26 chris git fetch
21:26 chris it doesnt merge them at all
21:25 chris that needs to be fixed
21:25 ccurry ok
21:25 chris yes
21:25 braedon|work $ git rebase origin"
21:25 braedon|work chris: from the Koha docs: "Sometimes you'll be working on something on a branch that needs to be updated to the latest 'origin'. Running the following commands will grab all the changes since you last pulled and merge them with your current changes: " "git fetch
21:25 mdhafen ccurry: yeah, should be good for testing. Just know that 3.0.6 should be out soon (couple months?)
21:25 chris so is slightly dangerous to call it that, because ppl will use it when they should merge
21:24 chris yeah, but it does a very different thing to a merge
21:24 braedon|work chris: i know it is not a merge, but i was attempting to explain it in a simple manner
21:24 seneca well, I will inquire about submitting changes I make when I actually make some changes;)
21:24 chris it will make a mess trying to rebase to an older version than you have checked out
21:23 braedon|work and will git rebase v3.00.05 work?
21:23 chris rebase changes commit ids
21:23 chris quite different to a merge
21:23 braedon|work chris: but what is the effective result?
21:23 chris then it will replay the commits from the branch you are rebasing from, then replay your commits after
21:22 mdhafen braedon: if he's based on a tag will he even want to follow new code?
21:22 chris (not merge braedon|work )
21:22 chris what rebase does is rewind your repo back to the common point with what you are rebasing from
21:22 braedon|work for example, git rebase origin/3.0.x will merge the current 3.0.x with your changes
21:22 chris but without the merge ;)
21:22 ccurry I just wanted to get my test server as close to possible to a mirror
21:22 braedon|work rebase basically tries to merge your changes with a new version of base code
21:21 ccurry mdhafen: thanks for the heads up. I'm hoping it'll be close enough for testing.
21:21 seneca braedon|work: what do you mean by rebase?
21:20 mdhafen ccurry: Looks like there are some database changes between 3.0.5 and where 3.0.x is now. Might be to late to go back.
21:20 ccurry thanks; that should help.
21:20 mdhafen ccurry: git_usage braedon mentioned is good for usage. For navigating I like gitweb at http://git.koha.org/
21:19 seneca you and I are int he same boat, ccurry
21:19 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage
21:19 braedon|work actually, can you rebase off a tag?
21:19 braedon|work seneca: if you do, you will need to rebase, rather than checking out to a new branch.
21:18 seneca why?
21:18 ccurry and btw, can anyone recommend good entry level documentation for using git with koha? I feel like I'm doing a lot of feeling around. I looked at the man pages, but there's a lot there and most of it is about committing changes to remote repositories and sharing patches, etc. I'd love to be doing that some day, but for now I just want to be able to efficiently navigate git and grab updates.
21:18 seneca braedon|work: not planning on it
21:17 braedon|work seneca: are you planning on making any changes to the code?
21:16 seneca seems far too easy ;)
21:15 mdhafen :) your welcome
21:15 ccurry thanks
21:15 braedon|work like mdhafen!
21:15 braedon|work ccurry: have to ask chris(or someone else who is lurking) about that i think
21:15 mdhafen ccurry: the version number is in the kohaversion.pl file
21:14 ccurry after checking out a tag in git, can you see this long version number before installing?
21:14 seneca and voila?
21:14 seneca step 3: (in kohaclone) git checkout -b _BRANCH_ _TAGNAME_
21:13 ccurry braedon|work: so is there any way to grab exactly 3.00.05.001 or has that ship sailed?
21:13 seneca step 2: git tags -l
21:13 seneca er -git
21:13 seneca step 1: get fetch
21:13 braedon|work ccurry: 3.0.x has more patches, than 3.0.5, yes
21:13 seneca so, just making sure:
21:12 seneca I meant branch :}
21:12 chris before the tags even
21:12 ccurry braedon|work: back for a quick confirmation: My live server version reports "3.00.05.001"; will git checkout -b 3.0.5 v3.00.05", which you recommended to me a few minutes ago, give me exactly the same koha as my live server or did I manage to get 3.05 + a few patches when I originally pulled 3.0.x from git?
21:12 seneca sorr "-b" part
21:11 chris git fetch before the checkout tho
21:11 chris yeah if you are running out of git, checking out a local branch is the safest
21:11 braedon|work base?
21:09 seneca or without the base?
21:09 seneca git checkout -b 3.0.5 v3.00.05 < this one?
21:09 seneca which git checkout line, though
21:08 chris thats it
21:08 seneca so, just "git tag -l" to find the version I want to upgrade to
21:07 chris nope
21:07 seneca no make, etc?
21:07 seneca which I am
21:07 chris just the git checkout bit
21:07 chris if you are running a dev install
21:07 seneca the git stuff, I mean - not the fixing my own typos ;)
21:06 seneca so, what part of all that I just did will be necessary for upgrades from here on out?
21:05 seneca I also hope to someday learn to type
21:05 seneca er - advice
21:05 seneca this is why I love the open source community/ies and why I hope to one day know enough about Koha to give back some useful adive!
21:04 seneca thanks to all for help
21:04 seneca all better
21:04 chris :)
21:03 seneca tired eyes took some time to find it though. ;)
21:03 seneca yeah, it was just a tag issue
21:02 chris if so, we just need to fix the tag issue
21:02 chris seneca: does the rest of the file look right, does it have actual info in it?
21:01 chris it might just bugger up the config file
21:01 braedon|work o, right
21:01 chris no i mean for all people
21:01 braedon|work then he can use git
21:01 braedon|work jsut onece
21:01 braedon|work it doesn't have it
21:00 chris it might, but it's not going to consistently work
21:00 braedon|work upgrade should do it(did for me)
21:00 braedon|work chris: he was getting back to using the correct dev install, after chnages
21:00 chris you only do the upgrade on standard installs
20:59 chris there was totally no need to do the upgrade, since it runs out of your git checkout
20:59 chris install
20:59 chris oohh if you have a dev
20:59 seneca no, dev from the VM - checking tags and syntax now...
20:59 chris maybe your apache config is pointing to the wrong config file?
20:57 chris i thought you had a standard install? not a dev one?
20:57 chris oh yeah it looks like the koha-conf.xml is totally screwed up
20:56 seneca well, I got rid of the kohaadmin password problem, but there's more...
20:50 chris yeah check you koha-conf.xml file (in /etc/)
20:49 seneca chris, I had a working system that I had manually upgraded before I just upgraded the git way, so I should have all my modules, I think
20:49 chris does it have the right username and password?
20:49 chris ah no, thats a config error, check your koha-conf.xml file
20:49 chris seneca probably missng modules
20:48 seneca libraries.mvschool.com
20:48 seneca I'm getting some errors now:
20:48 seneca hmm
20:48 schuster I see a patch was sent is noted, but has it been accepted gmcharlt?
20:48 ccurry Thanks for all the help; this has been very fortuitous.
20:47 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2975 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Offline circ tries to circ on biblio-level "itemtype"
20:47 schuster bug 2975
20:47 braedon|work and then run the web installer on your first login after
20:47 braedon|work seneca: you will need to checkout the 3.0.6 tag when it is created
20:46 ccurry braedon|work: awesome; since this is just a fresh test server, i'll just reinstall and deal with the upgrade issues later.
20:46 seneca should the steps I just took get me to 3.0.6 when the time comes?
20:46 braedon|work but beware that you will need to chown some files to get zebra running
20:46 seneca cool
20:46 braedon|work seneca: just run as sudo
20:46 chris seneca: there were a couple of little bugs, once they are sorted any day now
20:45 braedon|work ccurry: git checkout -b 3.0.5 v3.00.05
20:45 seneca when is 3.0.6 due?
20:44 ccurry ah
20:44 chris :)
20:44 seneca wait, no they weren't - nevermind that
20:44 chris ccurry: no, that will give you what is about to become 3.0.6
20:44 braedon|work ccurry: nope, it will get you the dev branch of 3.0.x
20:44 ccurry braedon|work: "git checkout -b 3.0.x --track origin/3.0.x" should have given me 3.0.5, right?
20:44 seneca think I should re-run it without the sudo?
20:43 seneca the permissions errors I got were all on release_notes
20:43 seneca doh!
20:43 seneca I'm running as koha
20:43 braedon|work seneca: and you are running as koha user?
20:42 seneca drwxr-xr-x 8 koha koha 4096 2009-06-03 12:48 koha-dev
20:42 ccurry pretty sure
20:42 chris yeah you need sudo unless you are running as the koha user
20:42 braedon|work ccurry: sure you had the right install log?
20:42 ccurry about.pl still tells me it's running 3.0.4 and no web installer runs when I log into the intranet.
20:41 braedon|work seneca: check hte ownership of koha-dev
20:41 braedon|work seneca: really? weird
20:41 ccurry I tried make install (instead of make upgrade); still didn't work.
20:41 seneca got permission errors after a few successful lines
20:41 seneca nope - needed sudo
20:41 seneca ok - make test and make upgrade seemed to have worked
20:40 braedon|work seneca: when you get to it, try the make upgrade without sudo - should work, and saves permissions issues later
20:40 ccurry that's all the commands I issued to upgrade
20:40 ccurry braedon|work: http://pastebin.com/wUpYe38d
20:40 braedon|work if you have a standard install, you need to actually install the new version - it is not linked in from your git repo
20:40 chris yep
20:39 seneca now make?
20:39 braedon|work ccurry: o, did you actually run an upgrade after the checkout?
20:38 braedon|work ccurry: weird. not sure sorry
20:38 chris perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log
20:38 chris yep looks good
20:38 seneca etc
20:38 seneca DB_NAME=koha
20:38 seneca KOHA_INSTALLED_VERSION=3.00.05.003
20:38 seneca so, just double checking, my next step should be to run the Makefile.pl, right?
20:38 chris seneca: can you paste one line (not the one with a password :))
20:37 ccurry about.pl
20:37 ccurry oops
20:37 braedon|work chris: there is usually one like that in koha-dev
20:37 seneca same info in both
20:37 chris (thats the wrong one)
20:36 chris KOHA_INSTALLED_VERSION=__KOHA_INSTALLED_VERSION__
20:36 chris the other will look like
20:36 braedon|work ccurry: ok, and what is saying it is 3.00.04?
20:36 chris take a look at them both, one will have proper info
20:36 seneca hmm
20:36 chris is the better one
20:36 chris blib/MISC_DIR/koha-install-log
20:36 chris cos i think the one in
20:36 ccurry standard
20:36 braedon|work ccurry: so you have a git dev install?
20:36 seneca yeah
20:35 seneca eah
20:35 chris is that where you found it?
20:35 chris in misc
20:35 seneca looks good
20:35 braedon|work and make sure it has variables filled
20:35 ccurry I thought I would use this opportunity to test an upgrade, but it has been a failed effort so far.
20:35 braedon|work open it when you find it
20:35 braedon|work seneca: should be in old kohaclone, i think....
20:34 seneca might it be in the koha-dev fodler?
20:34 seneca heh
20:34 ccurry even though I used the same git command to get the stable branch when I installed my live server.
20:34 chris i think it will be somewhere under /usr/share/koha
20:33 seneca got it, chris:)
20:33 chris it'll have install-log in it ;)
20:33 ccurry but that gave me 3.0.4 for some weird reason.
20:33 seneca do we know the name of the install log file?
20:33 chris sudo make upgrade
20:33 chris make
20:33 ccurry The strange thing is that I ran sudo git checkout -b 3.0.x --track origin/3.0.x
20:33 chris perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log
20:33 chris gah, those should be on different lines
20:33 ccurry Well, I'm trying to set up a test server with the same version as my live server. 3.0.5
20:33 chris perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log make make test sudo make upgrade
20:33 chris and run something like
20:32 chris you just need to find the path to your install log
20:32 chris good to go
20:32 chris nope
20:32 seneca no pull or fetch needed now?
20:32 seneca Switched to a new branch "3.0.5"
20:32 braedon|work ccurry: what is your current setup, and what do you want to move to, exactly?
20:32 seneca quick return
20:31 seneca ok
20:31 braedon|work seneca: try it chris's way, with the branch
20:31 ccurry I'm a newbie and I had trouble getting dev to work correctly, so I stuck with standard for now...
20:31 seneca *but waiting patiently*
20:31 braedon|work chris: true.
20:31 seneca *confused*
20:31 chris but with a local branch it will stay there
20:31 ccurry I'm running standard, by the way
20:30 seneca ha! no prob
20:30 chris if he does a git checkout something else now .. his branch will be gone
20:30 ccurry ...me (how convenient). If I have trouble, I'll come back and ask. Thanks, seneca for having the same request as me.
20:30 ccurry still processing the log....i tried the steps that Henri-Damien sent out with the release of 3.0.5, along with the upgrade steps in INSTALL.debian and I never get a prompt to use the web-based installer....perhaps all I need to do is log out and log back in in the intranet? I can probably sort this out with the abundance of information that is stacked up in the current chat feed, just for...
20:30 chris yeah but a local branch is a lot safer/easier
20:30 chris no fetch, pull or anything needed
20:30 braedon|work there is a way to do it without a local branch
20:30 chris which is exactly at the point where v3.00.05 is
20:30 seneca is that the full checkout command I should run?
20:30 braedon|work chris: shouldn't need to
20:30 chris will get you a local branch called 3.0.5
20:29 chris git checkout -b 3.0.5 v3.00.05
20:29 seneca think it worked?
20:29 seneca git fetch returned a line, no output
20:29 chris got it
20:29 chris ahh
20:29 braedon|work um...
20:29 seneca or just git fetch?
20:29 * braedon|work crosses fingers
20:29 seneca git fetch tagname?
20:29 braedon|work oo, try "git fetch"
20:28 seneca "HEAD is now at 4f9aff4... Changing version number 3.0.5"
20:28 braedon|work and it went through fine?
20:28 seneca git checkout v3.00.05
20:28 braedon|work what was the checkout command you ran?
20:28 seneca not the tagname...
20:28 seneca hmm
20:28 seneca git pull origin v3.00.05: fatal: Couldn't find remote ref v3.00.05
20:27 chris i think
20:27 chris git pull origin tagname
20:26 * braedon|work curses his hopeless memory
20:26 braedon|work i got around it somehow...
20:26 braedon|work just a sec, there was something different about pulling tags
20:25 chris no changes pull is ok, changes yes rebase is safer
20:25 braedon|work seneca: ahh, that's right
20:25 braedon|work ccurry: if you have a "clean" dev git install, then you just need to run the checkout and pull lines. unless you have changed anything from the 3.00.04 tag, in which case you need a rebase(some correct me if i am wrong here)
20:24 seneca "git pull" gets me You asked me to pull without telling me which branch you want to merge with, and 'branch..merge' in your configuration file does not tell me either. Please name which branch you want to merge on the command line and try again (e.g. 'git pull <repository> <refspec>').
20:24 chris and then the web based upgrader kicks in
20:24 chris you just rebase your repo to the level you want
20:23 seneca braedon|work: I'm hung on the git pull stage
20:23 chris if you did a dev install you dont need to
20:23 chris no, not usually
20:23 braedon|work well, actually, does anyone know if a upgrade make run is ever necessary when upgrading in git?
20:22 chris http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2010-02-24#i_399973 starts about there
20:21 seneca following his steps myself right now
20:21 seneca braedon|work just outlined it
20:21 ccurry ok...I'll take a look. Thanks
20:21 chris yep
20:21 ccurry should I check the logs then?
20:20 seneca HA! You should have been here 10 mins ago, ccurry!
20:20 ccurry Hello all. I'm trying to upgrade from 3.00.04.019 to 3.00.05.001, using git.
20:18 chris hiya IrmaCalyx
20:18 chris no worries
20:17 cait thx chris!
20:16 cait ah :)
20:15 cait its getting worse with every F5 g
20:15 chris yep im just restarting it
20:15 cait hmm
20:15 cait Service Temporarily Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
20:15 cait its polite g
20:15 wizzyrea the faq ;) You can type it in :P
20:15 cait An error has occurred. Thank you for your patience. unable to open database file hmmm
20:14 braedon|work haha, make sure it is correct first! I did this like a month ago
20:14 chris try again cait
20:14 wizzyrea we need that, desperately
20:14 cait pootle does not like me working on translation... Error accessing /home/chris/src/Pootle-2.0.0/po/intranet3_1/de/de-DE-i-staff-t-prog-v-3002000.po.pending, Filesystem sent error: Too many open files
20:14 wizzyrea lol
20:14 wizzyrea because, yes, that is important
20:14 chris awesome!
20:14 wizzyrea actually. I will do that right after I finish with this thing I'm working on now
20:14 wizzyrea oh no kidding
20:13 chris and make braedon|work type in what he just typed ;-)
20:13 wizzyrea agreed
20:13 wizzyrea ps? where did I come up with that typo
20:13 chris might be nice to add one to the site
20:13 wizzyrea WP*
20:13 wizzyrea lots of people do that with PS
20:13 wizzyrea for one, but I bet there is
20:13 wizzyrea There used to be one, I'd have to look
20:13 chris wizzyrea: does wordpress have a nice faq plugin?
20:12 seneca indeed
20:12 wizzyrea braedon|work wins for best instructions of the day
20:11 braedon|work if that succeeds, make upgrade
20:11 braedon|work make test
20:11 braedon|work then make
20:11 braedon|work then you need to run the Makefile.pl with the old log linked in (check the install docs under "upgrade" for the syntax
20:07 braedon|work (make sure it has variables filled correctly, not filled with __SOMETHING__ )
20:06 braedon|work then you need to find your original install log file
20:06 braedon|work then git pull
20:06 braedon|work then run git checkout <tag name>
20:06 braedon|work once that is done, in the kohaclone directory, run git tag -l, and find the name of the 3.00.05 tag
20:04 seneca (thanks a million for the help)
20:04 seneca working...
20:03 seneca ok
20:03 braedon|work but remove that symlink first
20:03 braedon|work pull it down again with git clone git://git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha.git kohaclone
20:03 braedon|work if you have touched it, you really need to start again
20:03 seneca snapshot's done - giving it a try
20:03 braedon|work kohaclone is a git repository pulled down from the web
20:02 seneca oh, ok
20:02 braedon|work the old one*
20:02 seneca what do you mean by "new" kohaclone?
20:01 braedon|work but keep the one one for config files
20:01 seneca I think I can put it back and give it a try
20:01 braedon|work prob best to start with a new kohaclone
20:01 seneca then made the 3.0.5 folder "kohaclone" (actually, I use a symlink)
20:01 braedon|work havn't done this for a while
20:01 braedon|work ok, just a sec, confirming commands
20:00 seneca I renamed the old kohaclone folder
19:59 braedon|work (sorry, using svn terminology. you may have to 'clone' again)
19:58 braedon|work tha's bad... may have to checkout again
19:58 braedon|work o, did you touch the kohaclone folder?
19:58 seneca ok - let me make a snapshot...
19:58 braedon|work then run git pull <name of tag>
19:58 seneca git gives a fatal error in my upgraded kohaclone folder
19:58 seneca I will have to go back to the original, pre-manual upgrade
19:57 braedon|work in the kohaclone directory, run git tag to list tags, and find the name of the one for 3.00.05
19:57 braedon|work to get you back to a git dev install
19:56 braedon|work and then run the installer again
19:56 braedon|work what you can do, is pull down the tag from git
19:56 seneca wonder if I should restore to before my "manual" upgrade to 3.0.5 to do this...
19:56 braedon|work ie, releases in this case
19:56 braedon|work basically pointers to points in development
19:56 braedon|work git tag will list the tags
19:56 seneca tags?
19:55 braedon|work but if you are wanting to checkout an official release, they are tags, not branches
19:55 braedon|work that will show you all the branches you can check out
19:54 seneca (btw: the zebra rebuild finished and the problem results have disappeared from the searches - THANKS ALL)
19:54 braedon|work in the kohaclone folder, run git branch -a
19:53 seneca it's about time, I suppose
19:53 seneca guess I should figure out how to use git, eh? ;) HA
19:53 braedon|work you can checkout new versions from git
19:53 seneca yep
19:53 seneca there's a koha-dev dir and a kohaclone
19:53 braedon|work that is a dev install
19:52 braedon|work (do you have a kohaclone and koha-dev folder in the Koha user's directory?)
19:52 seneca in /home/koha
19:52 seneca both, I think
19:52 braedon|work is the vm the one with a dev install? or a standard?
19:52 seneca *tapping pen*
19:52 seneca I will continue to be patient...
19:51 wizzyrea yepper :)
19:51 seneca thanks, wizzyrea
19:51 seneca what is the official way to upgrade koha, VM or not?
19:51 wizzyrea yes, probably :)
19:51 seneca (should the zebra rebuild still be going?)
19:51 wizzyrea it's reporting the variables
19:50 wizzyrea oh, this makes sense to me brendan
19:50 seneca I hada hell of a tiem upgrading the CM
19:50 braedon|work o, manual upgrade? fun. yip, you would be left with the template
19:50 seneca perhaps not
19:49 seneca so if you don't actually run the makefile, like how I manually upgraded this from 3.0.0, that info wouldn't be filled in?
19:49 brendan hi chris
19:49 brendan so when you answer the questions on that part --> it will use that file make a new one and plug your desicions into it
19:49 richard hey chris
19:49 braedon|work seneca: when you upgraded, did you point the makefile to the correct install log?
19:49 wizzyrea (mornin chris)
19:49 wizzyrea right
19:49 chris morning
19:49 brendan that information is filled in during the makefile.pl (you know the install part)
19:49 brendan heya wizzyrea for your knowledge when you see the __DB_NAME_ or similar stuff
19:48 seneca at least, it's not erroring yet
19:48 seneca I pointed to the old one (before the 3.0.5 upgrade) and it appears to be working
19:48 seneca yeha, that was it
19:47 brendan and you're just pointing to the wrong one
19:47 seneca oh weird - if I "sudo export" I get an "export: command not found"
19:47 brendan you probably have two copies of it
19:45 seneca how would I know if my koha-conf.xml file is funky?
19:43 wizzyrea or what brendan said
19:43 wizzyrea but in a VM, you're probably logged in as the right user
19:43 wizzyrea the other thing that trips people up is not running the indexing as the right user
19:42 seneca did that
19:42 wizzyrea it's always the dir above
19:42 seneca right
19:42 wizzyrea so your PERL5LIB would be /home/koha/kohw3.0.5/koha-3.00.05/
19:42 brendan you want to look for your koha-conf.xml file
19:42 seneca well, I've already got a good amount of work put into this VM, so if I could fix it, that would be grand
19:41 brendan you could have set it to the file that has sym-links in it and not the file that has that information already filled in for you
19:41 wizzyrea the zebra bit is always dicey
19:41 seneca for me: /home/koha/koha3.0.5/koha-3.00.05/C4/Context.pm
19:41 wizzyrea if you're down with the VM's, you could try just using Debian Lenny and doing an install from the INSTALL.debian-lenny file
19:41 brendan which path did you use to set your KOHA_CONF
19:40 seneca buck passed.
19:40 wizzyrea well you're using a pre configured VM... yea, that's what I was going to say ;)
19:40 seneca but I used the VM, so someone else must have missed it... ;)
19:40 seneca Errors like these make me feel like I missed something VERY important on the setup step of Koha...
19:40 wizzyrea anything in the list archives?
19:39 wizzyrea can't say I've seen that one before :/
19:39 seneca Use of uninitialized value $db_driver in concatenation (.) or string at /etc/perl/C4/Context.pm line 666. Can't connect to data source 'dbname=__DB_NAME__;host=__DB_HOST__;port=__DB_PORT__' because I can't work out what driver to use (it doesn't seem to contain a 'dbi:driver:' prefix and the DBI_DRIVER env var is not set) at /etc/perl/C4/Context.pm line 666
19:39 seneca after those two things:
19:38 wizzyrea (I have to look this up almost every time)
19:38 seneca thanks, though I'm just chasing errors by this point
19:38 wizzyrea export PERL5LIB=/home/liz/kohaclone/
19:38 wizzyrea export KOHA_CONF=/home/liz/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml
19:38 wizzyrea example, mine are
19:38 wizzyrea they won't probably be the same :/
19:35 wizzyrea export KOHA_CONF=/path/to/your/koha-conf.xml
19:35 wizzyrea and
19:35 wizzyrea seneca: export PERL5LIB=/path/to/your/koha/
19:22 seneca looks like a perl INC error - can't find Context.pm
19:17 seneca I'll try to get the rebuild working
19:17 seneca ok, ps returns results, so I guess zebra is running
19:16 seneca Hmmm.. errors with the command, and can't find "NoZebra" where is it supposed to be?
19:14 gmcharlt or check the value of the NoZebra system preference in adminsitration
19:14 gmcharlt also, if ps -ef | grep zebrasrv returns results, that will tell you if you're running zebra
19:14 gmcharlt seneca: try dropping to the command line and running rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r
19:13 seneca slightly embarrasingly, I don't know if htat uses Zebra
19:13 seneca dunno - I'm using the prebuilt Koha vm
19:13 gmcharlt if so, you'll need to run rebuild_zebra.pl
19:13 gmcharlt seneca: are you using Zebra?
19:08 seneca I deleted some itemless records from the biblio table, but the items' records are still showing up in searches (but then giving a 404 error when you click on them)
19:07 seneca Does anyone know what table in the database a searching of the catalog draws from?
18:47 brendan well on IRC of course
18:47 brendan make sure you stop by ever so often and say hi :)
18:47 brendan bye nelsonf
18:47 sekjal later, nelsonf_!
18:46 nelsonf_ it's been real code4lib - later alligator
18:37 jdavidb Naah. I see it.
18:35 jwagner Well, that's probably a good one :-) (But you'll take it back when you see the ticket I just assigned you....)
18:34 jdavidb For being jwagner, mostly. Do I need other reasons?
18:32 jwagner Wha' for?
18:30 jdavidb jwagner++
18:26 * owen is off to get his eyeballs prodded
18:12 collum It helps me to learn.
18:12 * collum likes it when you guys take existing code and improve it.
18:12 collum Colin++
18:09 sekjal nengard: putting my slides up on slideshare now. network is kinda slow just now, it seems
18:04 jdavidb We're expecting 4-6" here, nengard. shouldn't be bad.
17:52 nengard wonder what I should have hubby pick up on the way home from work
17:52 nengard stupid snow!
17:52 munin nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is 5.4�C (12:45 PM EST on February 24, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Watch in effect from late tonight through Friday morning...
17:52 nengard @wunder 19030
17:49 jdavidb owen++ #for his truly-fun Facebook status; I needed the giggle.
17:47 wizzyrea man what is with the weather this year
17:42 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 7.3�C (12:42 PM EST on February 24, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Watch in effect from midnight EST tonight through late Thursday night...
17:42 jdavidb @wunder 20817
17:40 brendan ok gonna brave it and go out side :)
17:40 munin brendan: The current temperature in Sunset Mountain, Asheville, North Carolina is -0.4�C (12:40 PM EST on February 24, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006.3 hPa (Falling). High wind watch in effect from Thursday afternoon through Friday afternoon...
17:40 brendan @wunder asheville, nc
17:26 jdavidb I used to program an LP Mud, and hacking up interactives was my favorite thing. The girls were *little* then, so I cobbled up Lindsey and Libby interactives as test exercises.
17:24 * jdavidb chuckles
17:24 wizzyrea ;)
17:24 jwagner Yes, Yoda
17:24 wizzyrea do, or do not, there is no try
17:24 wizzyrea that's right!
17:24 munin wizzyrea: Error: "try" is not a valid command.
17:24 wizzyrea @try
17:23 munin jwagner: Error: "do" is not a valid command.
17:23 jwagner @do
17:23 wizzyrea lol
17:23 * jdavidb would *so* hack munin to respond to "@be" with "I am, <requestor>."
17:22 jwagner We have to work on munin's sense of humor....
17:22 jdavidb "to be, or not to be?" That is the question....that will crash a SirsiDynix Unicorn OPAC spectacularly...
17:22 wizzyrea for some reason I never get tired of that joke w/ munin
17:22 wizzyrea to be, or not to be, that is the question
17:21 wizzyrea man, you really gotta work on that
17:21 munin jdavidb: Quote #38: "<owen> Holy Bugzilla activity explosion, Batman!" (added by ricardo at 10:00 AM, October 07, 2009)
17:21 jdavidb @quote random
17:21 munin wizzyrea: Error: "be" is not a valid command.
17:21 wizzyrea @be
17:21 * jdavidb pokes munin in the ribs, and calls it a dork.
17:21 munin jdavidb: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 11:28 AM, June 18, 2009)
17:21 jdavidb @quote random
17:21 wizzyrea lol
17:21 munin wizzyrea: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 11:28 AM, June 18, 2009)
17:21 wizzyrea @quote random
17:21 wizzyrea lol sigh
17:20 * jdavidb chuckles evilly.
17:19 munin jdavidb: The operation succeeded. Quote #61 added.
17:19 jdavidb @quote add *wizzyrea doesn't like hoity toity technical talk...<wizzyrea> wait, that's a lie
17:19 rhcl seems lots of sites are down. I can't get to tigerdirect.com, globalgoved.com, compusa.com, et al.
17:14 wizzyrea I totally dig it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vioZf4TjoUI
17:13 wizzyrea wait, that's a lie
17:13 * wizzyrea doesn't like hoity toity technical talk
17:12 wizzyrea today
17:12 wizzyrea I think there might be something funky with the trans-ocean interweb link
17:12 wizzyrea oh there it is
17:12 wizzyrea aw
17:12 owen Damn now I've got this hammer I still need to get rid of.
17:11 wizzyrea they must be on the same server >.>
17:11 wizzyrea I thought that error looked familiar
17:11 wizzyrea sho nuff
17:11 wizzyrea i wonder if translate.koha.org is broken too
17:11 * owen didn't wake up first thing to check it
17:10 nengard hmm
17:10 wizzyrea google has been funny all day
17:10 owen earlier, that is
17:10 owen nengard: It was working early this morning
17:10 * wizzyrea is not it
17:10 nengard http://kohacon.appspot.com/
17:10 nengard anyone know what's up with the kohacon site?
17:07 CGI757 just wanna know if there is anyone here lol
17:07 CGI757 lol
17:06 owen CGI757: Yeah, I've got an old hammer. What'll you give me for it?
17:05 CGI757 hey any one with tools to trade
16:45 wizzyrea i'm still giggling
16:44 owen You too wizzyrea!
16:44 wizzyrea owen: lol
16:43 gmcharlt wizzyrea: correct
16:42 wizzyrea and that applies in both pac and intranet
16:42 wizzyrea gmcharlt would know definitively
16:41 wizzyrea yes, the local hold rules, as I understand it, use the patron's home library setting to determine eligibility for holds
16:41 schuster wizzyrea - so does that limit both in staff and pac or??
16:34 wizzyrea schuster
16:34 wizzyrea sorry, was afk
16:32 wizzyrea here's the default level http://screencast.com/t/MzNhZWE3M
16:14 jwagner All these identity crises this morning....
16:10 schuster sekjal++ there will be lots of people interested in those slides...
16:10 gmcharlt` sekjal++
16:08 schuster sorry "from home library"
16:08 schuster I tried to limit all locations itemtype to Book - local only - but that didn't take.
16:08 schuster wizzyrea - so what do you have on the "default" location level?
16:02 janewagner What's happening with the IRC today? Just got bounced for the 3rd time.
16:00 brendan with a picture of two kittens fighting with a bomb going off in the background
16:00 wizzyrea schuster: http://screencast.com/t/NzQyYzczOT
16:00 wizzyrea let me send you a screencap of how we do local holds in our catalog
16:00 wizzyrea it's kind of twitchy, you have to have the rules configured just so
16:00 wizzyrea oh, schuster, maybe you do have it
16:00 wizzyrea hahah
15:57 brendan had the best slide ever - titled when titans clash
15:56 brendan migration from iii to koha
15:56 nelsonf_ migrating from millennium to koha
15:56 owen What's the topic?
15:55 brendan sekjal++
15:55 brendan getting some laughs
15:55 brendan sekjal's presentation is going great so far
15:53 schuster I have something that says item type and hold policy but I wasn't able to figure out how it works.
15:52 wizzyrea yea, NEKLS sponsored that
15:52 wizzyrea WOOO Sekjal!
15:52 gmcharlt` sekjal is presenting now
15:52 schuster wizzyrea do you have that code? what version are you on?
15:51 schuster :(
15:50 jwagner Ooops.
15:50 wizzyrea I don't think he has that code yet :(
15:50 jwagner schuster, does changing the circ rule setting on holds to "from home library only" limit the holds the way you want?
15:50 wizzyrea you could probably suppress the next avail option with jquery too
15:48 schuster Most schools only have one copy except for the current award books - but still...
15:46 schuster ok - for now until we can get local (school only holds) implemented I need to change these to specific copies. I was able to "adjust" the tmpl to remove the next Available option forcing them to a specific copy.
15:45 owen An itemnumber will be present for item-level holds and for non-item-level holds which have had an item allocated for them.
15:44 schuster So if itemnumber is blank does that mean it is next available? yes owen
15:44 owen schuster: Meaning all holds which are on "next available" rather than for a specific copy?
15:43 schuster So I have an sql question - I need to find all of the "first available" type holds... I was looking at the reserves table but can't figure where that is indicated?
15:43 jwagner Starting with those item-type icons....
15:43 jwagner wizzyrea, I can think of lots of things where that logic could be applied :-)
15:42 jwagner Latest forecast here is that we're going to be on the southern fringes of this one. People further up the coast and inland are going to get it worse.
15:42 wizzyrea ;)
15:42 wizzyrea <zaps it>
15:42 wizzyrea "That print button is UGLY! No one will miss it..."
15:41 schuster NONE! All SOUTH of Dallas - which is really funny - one would think the NORTH would get it...
15:41 jwagner Hi, schuster, did you get much snow this time around?
15:40 gmcharlt` cool
15:40 schuster well should we go check the logs!
15:40 wizzyrea never SU after 2 :P
15:40 wizzyrea ...
15:40 brendan hi schuster
15:40 * owen wonders what owen was thinking on 2009-12-31 12:45:54
15:40 schuster heo...
15:40 wizzyrea !!
15:40 owen Cart missing print button because owen added "display:none" to cart link for some reason.
15:39 wizzyrea will have to keep on that
15:39 wizzyrea NICE
15:39 wizzyrea NIC
15:39 magnus hehe - talking of which: looks like koha-community.org is now hit number 12 on google when you search for "koha"...
15:39 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4250 normal, P5, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, NEW, cart missing print button
15:39 owen Bug 4250
15:39 * wizzyrea envisions the physical space of #koha as a dimly lit room with lots of squishy things to sit on, endless coffee, and a floor covered with power outlets
15:37 wizzyrea man I have no idea
15:37 owen Are we the first result for "chat" on Google or something?
15:36 owen Good like finding your america chatbox!
15:36 Kuna great
15:36 wizzyrea thanks we always do :)
15:36 Kuna ok i'm gone. See you guy's around. Have fun..
15:34 Kuna ok a little bit like a search engine would use
15:34 wizzyrea it's really more for library metadata/tracking
15:33 wizzyrea It could probably do that, but not all too particularly gracefully
15:32 Kuna Because the classes would devellop a tree and would gradually contain all the plant information
15:32 Kuna this would be great to manage a biotonic library :)
15:31 wizzyrea it's the system that enables automated tracking of library materials (library, as in, the large (sometimes) civic buildings filled with items circulated (sometimes) free to anyone)
15:30 Kuna ok checkin
15:30 wizzyrea erm, well: http://koha-community.org/about/
15:29 Kuna nice. So it's the language that should run a whole range of websites, right?
15:28 wizzyrea Library Automation Systems/Web Application, among other things
15:28 wizzyrea speaking of koha-community... I'm still a bit fuddled by this problem with docbook2html
15:28 Kuna i'll check it out :) in wich kind of domain are you develloping. Sound, 3D, ERP, or operating systems?
15:28 wizzyrea www.koha-community.org
15:27 Kuna o ok :)
15:27 Kuna magnus, you seem to be european too?
15:27 wizzyrea Koha is an open source library automation system
15:27 owen Kuna I think this isn't the place you want to be. We're here to talk about software development
15:27 Kuna Yea it's near 5 pm over here.
15:27 Kuna No , what is koha actually?
15:27 magnus europe, on the other hand, is getting ready for dinner...
15:27 owen Kuna did you come to talk about Koha?
15:26 wizzyrea US - Kansas
15:26 Kuna So Where you from Wizzyrea?
15:26 Kuna It's cool that it's a browser chatbox, and yea not everybody is awake. :)
15:25 wizzyrea well we just got back from a brief interruption in service to the channel :P
15:25 wizzyrea ok, now the word awake looks weird to me
15:25 Kuna Yea because it looks pretty quiet in here
15:25 * brendan 's very awake
15:25 * wizzyrea is awake
15:25 wizzyrea "the most awake" not "awake" ;)
15:25 brendan some more so than others
15:25 * owen grumbles "speak for yourself brendan"
15:25 Kuna haha :)
15:24 jwagner For certain values of "awake"
15:24 wizzyrea the americans happen to... what he said
15:24 brendan just america's the most awake at the moment
15:24 jwagner Kuna, not even close
15:24 brendan it's global
15:23 Kuna Is this an america chatbox? :)
15:22 brendan a little bit sweet (but a good session beer)
15:22 brendan one of the top beers was a gaelic ale from highland breweries
15:21 owen They do that here too, but I'll bet MN has stricter standards ;)
15:21 brendan beer- cruise was good.. got a good tour of brewery and had some good beers
15:21 moodaepo hah I'm not surprised, but not that cold yet
15:20 brendan my wife from cambridge, minn... told me that they canceled school sometimes because it got too cold
15:20 moodaepo brendan: it sounds a lot better in fahrenheit, how was the beer-cruise?
15:19 brendan small kids will freeze solid if they stood still outside in the temp for too long
15:19 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 5.8�C (10:19 AM EST on February 24, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Watch in effect from late tonight through late Thursday night...
15:19 jwagner @wunder Bethesda, MD
15:19 brendan wow moodaepo. that's insane
15:18 moodaepo owen: it's nearly that cold here
15:18 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -18.6�C (9:16 AM CST on February 24, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -22.0�C. Windchill: -27.0�C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023.2 hPa (Rising).
15:18 moodaepo @wunder 56001
15:18 owen The vacuum of space was so cold...
15:04 wizzyrea_ mmmm... buttery
15:04 owen Made with real butter
15:03 wizzyrea_ owen++ # for the super slick intranet interface
15:03 wizzyrea_ :)
15:03 wizzyrea_ but thanks all the same
15:03 wizzyrea_ well I'm not sure I've found it, but I'm a lot closer
15:02 munin wizzyrea_: Karma for "-" has been increased 1 time and decreased 21 times for a total karma of -20.
15:02 wizzyrea_ @karma -
15:02 owen wizzyrea++ # for her holds bug detective work
15:02 * jdavidb thinks someone oughta hide the sugar and caffeine...
15:02 wizzyrea_ oh no a karma party
15:02 gmcharlt -++ # math just wouldn't be any fun without it
15:02 munin jdavidb: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 56 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 56.
15:02 jdavidb @karma wizzyrea
15:01 wizzyrea_ hehe
15:01 owen <!++ # for consistently and reliably beginning HTML comments
15:00 munin jdavidb: Highest karma: "chris" (109), "gmcharlt" (108), and "owen" (87). Lowest karma: "<!" (-43), "failed" (-26), and "-" (-21). You (jdavidb) are ranked 18 out of 721.
15:00 jdavidb @karma
14:59 gmcharlt spelling++ # honoured more in the breach, perhaps :)
14:59 owen karma++
14:59 gmcharlt chris++ # just because
14:58 munin owen: Highest karma: "chris" (108), "gmcharlt" (108), and "owen" (87). Lowest karma: "<!" (-43), "failed" (-26), and "-" (-21). You (owen) are ranked 3 out of 719.
14:58 owen @karma karma
14:56 magnus ;-)
14:56 munin magnus: spelling has neutral karma.
14:56 magnus @karma spelling
14:55 wizzyrea_ oi I hope not
14:55 owen Does chris's IRC stats page grade us on spelling?
14:55 wizzyrea_ hehe
14:55 owen spelling karma
14:55 owen Serves me right, I was just grouching about the misspellings in a recent email to parents from my daughter's school principal
14:53 gmcharlt :)
14:53 gmcharlt come joins us at the libary
14:53 wizzyrea_ hehe
14:53 owen Oh nice, my Google alert for "nelsonville public library" was returning no results because I misspelled "library" :P
14:52 wizzyrea_ maybe his facebook?
14:52 wizzyrea_ so yea, it's automated somehow
14:52 wizzyrea_ it was sent from a twitter client called twitterfeed: http://twitterfeed.com/
14:50 owen Yeah I don't think it does us any harm, I'm just curious about it. I've got a Google alert set up for results that include "Athens County Public Libraries" so it caught my eye
14:49 wizzyrea_ i dunno, it could be automatic, but I still think it's an interesting use of a library catalog
14:49 wizzyrea_ with bad design skills >.>
14:48 wizzyrea_ yea, but it could be a very small company
14:48 owen No classes listed on the calendar
14:48 owen Only an email link
14:47 owen Except no contact info, no information about where the company is located
14:47 wizzyrea_ the company looks kind of legit to me
14:47 wizzyrea_ dunno, he linked to a subject search of survival
14:47 owen Like maybe each tweet is a Google result for "wilderness survival" or something
14:46 owen wizzyrea_: I think it's a spam robot of some kind, but I can't figure out the angle.
14:46 wizzyrea_ and your catalog was one of the resources he linked to, pretty good promotion for your library
14:45 wizzyrea_ he's got 2900 followers
14:45 wizzyrea_ i mean, look at the account: http://twitter.com/extremesurvival
14:44 wizzyrea_ owen: that is an extremely interesting use of the library catalog, if it's legit
14:41 Colin and later there's an unshift. I think the routine is asking to be tidied up
14:36 owen push @id, " ";
14:36 owen # insert empty value to create a empty choice in cgi popup
14:35 Colin If you look at it in firebug one is "" and one is " "
14:34 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2399 normal, P3, ---, chris.nighswonger@liblime.com, REOPENED, All status fields in the item edit interface offer two blank/null entries per dropdown instead of one
14:34 * owen remembers that symptom from Bug 2399
14:32 Colin owen: I've got two blank lines then the two cities I defined
14:27 * owen wonders if other find that their City/State dropdown contains 2 blank lines?
14:27 * owen is a Perl newb so that $city{ $data->... construction was greek to me
14:27 collum a meeting rather.
14:27 collum OK. Off to meeting.
14:26 Colin the perennial problem of nulls
14:26 nengard :)
14:26 nengard I'm off to do day 2 of training and to sing your praises for fixing that - even if it is only partially fixed :_)
14:26 nengard thanks collum!!!
14:26 collum Probably a bad assumption.
14:25 collum Ah. I just assumed it was already checked because it was already used.
14:25 Colin Outside the US zip is not city level so it won't be defined in many cases generating a warning
14:24 collum of the select statement.
14:24 collum Zip is used in the value element
14:23 Colin I think the patch should checked whether zip is defined though
14:23 collum i just appended the zip to the city/state string.
14:23 * owen goes to look at the patch to see if he can learn from it
14:22 owen Oh, great collum, I didn't see that
14:22 collum It was me.
14:21 nengard yeah - that's why i changed who it was assigned to - but it looks like someone may have figured it out - i forget who now ....
14:21 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4248 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Cities Town Pull Down Missing Zip
14:21 owen nengard: I looked at Bug 4248 yesterday and got stumped by the Perl too
14:20 tekonivel these are used for string matching xpaths :(
14:19 * tekonivel comes across translations from XSLT-files
14:18 tekonivel okrap
14:08 brendan but feeling great this morning - so not too much
14:08 brendan I think so
14:04 jwagner owen, see, that's where us tea-drinkers have the advantage. While everyone else is fighting over the coffee, we can slip in and brew our caffeine of choice :-)
14:04 nelsonf how was the beer last night? Did you drink your $40 worth?
14:03 nelsonf gooood morning brandon! another code4lib day, oh boy
14:03 brendan hi nelsonf
14:02 owen Somehow that doesn't surprise me, all those caffeine-addicted geeks in one place.
14:02 chris_n coffee_shortage--
14:02 brendan been seeing some cool xml stuff
14:01 brendan good so far, but there doesn't seem to be enough coffee - it always runs out quickly
14:01 owen Hi brendan, how's code4lib going?
13:57 nengard bleh - weatherman just said we're getting more snow tonight into Friday!!
13:56 owen It's just odd
13:56 nengard it's not bad spam ...
13:56 nengard hmmm
13:56 owen This is the third one I've seen, and each was from a different account
13:55 * nengard thinking positively
13:55 nengard owen is it possible he lives in your area and did a search he thought had good results?
13:55 owen Another tweet about our catalog. I just don't get it. http://twitter.com/ExtremeSurvival/statuses/9568844062
13:53 jdavidb Hi, Colin!
13:46 owen Hi randyc
12:55 Genji ah
12:55 gmcharlt i.e., ($subf_label, $subf_value) = @{ $element };
12:54 gmcharlt i.e., in your loop, $element is the array ref for each subfield
12:54 gmcharlt $element->[0] contains the subfield code, $element->[1] the value
12:53 Genji any idea,gmcharlt?
12:50 * jdavidb did *not* wanna get out of bed this morning. Arthritis is kicking up a little; staying *still* feels much better.
12:50 gmcharlt so early?
12:50 jwagner I have a monopoly on the harrumphing this morning....
12:49 jdavidb Mornin'. Harrrrumph!
12:41 Genji $ele[1] doesnt work.
12:41 gmcharlt yep
12:41 Genji so far, i get both the subfield key, and value..
12:40 Genji }}
12:40 Genji }
12:40 Genji }
12:40 Genji foreach my $ele (@$element){print "$ele\n";
12:40 Genji foreach my $element ($tag->subfields()){
12:38 Genji didn't work it out yet.
12:38 Genji oh nevermind.
12:36 Genji oh.. duh...
12:36 Genji eh.. that didn't work.
12:35 Genji wait.. arrayref.. so.. $ele[1]?
12:34 Genji ?
12:34 Genji so... $ele->{value}/
12:34 gmcharlt first elment of which is the subfield code, the second is the subfield value
12:34 gmcharlt Genji: just about - each subfield entry return is a two-element arrayref
12:33 fallor +f
12:33 fallor gmcharlt: I also switched of binary logging from my.cnf
12:33 fallor gmcharlt: thanks, that's what I did :)
12:24 Genji ?
12:23 Genji foreach my $item (@{$tag->subfields()}) { print $item)
12:21 Genji so, i just do foreach my $item (@$tag->subfields()) { print $item)?
12:16 gmcharlt they're used for replication and data recovery
12:16 gmcharlt if you're planning to restore from your dump
12:15 gmcharlt fallor: they're MySQL binary logs - it's safe to remove them or move them onto another filesystem
12:03 chris_n bbl
11:51 fallor safe even
11:51 fallor is is dafe to remove them?
11:51 fallor they seem to be eating up the diskspace
11:51 fallor hmm... there are a lot of mysql-bin.0000nn files under /var/lib/mysql
11:47 gmcharlt hi nelsonf
11:42 chris_n g'morning
11:38 gmcharlt Genji: MARC::Field->subfields() returns an array of subfields
11:37 Genji hey all. how do i step through values in a field, in a marc::record?
11:37 fallor now unfortunately the guy that takes care of this server is out on a holiday until 1.3.
11:37 fallor for sure :D
11:36 gmcharlt that would do it :)
11:36 fallor so 0 bytes of free space on disk
11:36 fallor /dev/hda1 20G 19G 0 100% /
11:36 fallor this is what df says:
11:36 fallor i think i found the problem
11:36 fallor whoops
11:35 fallor nope, nothing
11:34 fallor the server hasn't actually completed the bootup procedure (rc.M is still running) because the MySQL server is acting up
11:34 gmcharlt anything in /var/log/mysql.log or /var/log/mysql.err ?
11:33 fallor ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
11:32 gmcharlt what error messages is it giving you?
11:30 fallor but how am i supposed to feed the data back in if the damn thing won't start
11:30 fallor i have a recent dump so that's not a problem
11:29 fallor yep
11:29 gmcharlt just 2% of its former size? ouch
11:28 fallor Koha database is 1,7 MB (it was 103 MB yesterday)
11:28 fallor then i booted the server and now it refuses to start up
11:28 fallor i tried to restart it, but it refused to stop
11:28 fallor that much i figured, so i went ahead and checked that
11:28 gmcharlt fallor: at a guess, mysqld is not running at all
11:27 fallor the database seems to be messed up pretty bad
11:27 fallor What do you make of this: http://koha.kepa.fi/
11:26 fallor Hello again guys
11:11 bigbrovar Hey guys I have a friend who is a librarian and she wants to do her masters in IT but I advised her to do something related to IT and library. Does anyone have tip on a masters course of certification in a related field?
10:49 * tekonivel adds biblab to rss aggregator
10:47 magnus i hadn't seen that
10:47 magnus cool
10:46 tekonivel magnus: ours is http://labs.kirjastot.fi :)
10:46 magnus by the way: "we" are the norwegian library laboratory: http://www.biblab.no/
10:45 tekonivel esp. in Ã…rhus
10:45 tekonivel magnus: lol propably :)
10:45 magnus lots, probably
10:45 tekonivel i wonder what the danes are up to
10:45 magnus yeah, the language-stuff is interesting! ;-)
10:45 tekonivel magnus: that's good to hear
10:45 tekonivel magnus: it's easier for you with a shared language, but we've got ppl here with swedish as the first language too
10:44 magnus i don't think they have released the code, but we have been in contact with them a bit and they have said we can have it
10:44 tekonivel magnus: yea
10:44 magnus we are also thinking about nordic cooperation - some kind of meta-service to aggregate stuff
10:44 * tekonivel haven't looked at it in a while
10:44 tekonivel magnus: so the code is ready for production?
10:43 tekonivel :)
10:43 tekonivel some nordic cooperation here?
10:43 magnus tekonivel: we have talked about getting the code and setting up our own installation - to play with it a bit and think about what we need and want and can do
10:43 tekonivel we've not decided... but things tend to happen /sloooooow/, so personally i'd prefer joining someone and then maybe forking out later if need be
10:42 tekonivel magnus: so my question is, have there been discussion about joihing the swedes, or setting up your own honeypot in norway?
10:41 tekonivel magnus: i'm weeding my emails, and ve've had discussion of ÖB, or that we should have a shared, centralized "honeypot" of UGC too
10:40 tekonivel magnus: yesterday you mentioned that norwegians are thinking of something like ÖB
10:40 magnus hiya tekonivel
10:40 tekonivel magnus: hi
09:09 chris stranger and stranger
09:07 Ropuch No - I've ordered them at the same time
09:03 chris does that now make it work when you receive?
09:03 chris if you modify one (dont change anything just choose modify and then save it)
09:02 chris yeah that is weird, it must be something that happened when they were ordered
09:01 Ropuch But it's weird that some of items from same basket work, and some don't
09:00 Ropuch And now i have illegal date in apache log
09:00 Ropuch I've changed it to iso
09:00 Ropuch I was set to us
08:58 chris what is your syspref set to?
08:58 Ropuch Hm, actually I can use us or iso date format, it's fine by me
08:55 Ropuch Nope
08:55 chris that looks like us format date in the link ... which i suspect yuo dont use in poland?
08:53 chris ahhh that will be the issue
08:52 Ropuch It's ok that datereived is empty?
08:52 Ropuch datereceived_iso => $datereceived->output('iso'),
08:52 Ropuch datereceived => $datereceived->output(),
08:51 Ropuch Hm
08:51 Ropuch $template->param(
08:50 Ropuch sure
08:49 chris can you paste what is on your line 192?
08:46 chris (it should be a HASH)
08:46 chris right so my theory is wrong, bookseller looks fine
08:45 Ropuch Date is in weird format in log, in link it;s 2010-02-24
08:45 Ropuch Premature end of script headers: orderreceive.pl, referer: http://195.254.156.179:8080/cgi-bin/koha/acqui/parcel.pl?supplierid=11&op=new&invoice=Dar+DZ%2F03%3A1%2F10&datereceived=02%2F24%2F2010
08:45 Ropuch HASH(0x3c5bcc0), referer: http://195.254.156.179:8080/cgi-bin/koha/acqui/parcel.pl?supplierid=11&op=new&invoice=Dar+DZ%2F03%3A1%2F10&datereceived=02%2F24%2F2010
08:42 chris paul_p: its not everyday an allblack buys lunch for people :)
08:40 chris and htere it should have the value of bookseller
08:40 chris yep, you can check the apache error log now
08:39 Ropuch But I'm not sure if my 191 is your 191 - I haven't patched 3.00.05
08:39 Ropuch chris: with die $bookseller; in 191 I get Error 500
08:38 chris Ok (wellington) "Twitter Fam" who is down for lunch at @laffare tomorrow? come along my shout! http://twtvite.com/scb3wv re-tweet pls
08:38 chris he is buying coffee for people tomorrow :)
08:37 paul_p no, I didn't. why ?
08:37 chris plays for wellington too
08:37 chris number 3
08:37 chris (all black prop)
08:37 paul_p ??? (nope)
08:37 chris you've heard of neemia tialata?
08:36 paul_p hi chris, yes i'm here
08:36 chris paul_p: are you about?
08:36 chris to test my theory
08:36 chris die $bookseller;
08:35 chris on line 191 could you put
08:35 Ropuch One sec, I'll find 'working' item and pastebin good & bad links
08:34 chris interesting
08:33 Ropuch Yes
08:33 chris does the receive link have a supplierid parameter in the url?
08:32 chris blows up
08:32 chris name => $bookseller->{'name'},
08:31 chris so this line
08:31 chris which means it cant find the bookseller
08:31 chris ah yep, its because it is missing the ordernumber
08:30 chris hmm or maybe not, looking more
08:29 chris i see 2 bugfixes for orderreceive.pl since 3.0.5
08:27 Ropuch I've examined the "receive" link from the working "receiveable" item and one of those - they are the same (with different &receive= and &biblionumber)
08:25 * chris takes a look at the code
08:24 chris that looks like a bug
08:23 Ropuch I have trouble receiving some items
08:21 Ropuch Can anybody take a look at http://bagno.be/rcv_error.png
07:17 Ropuch [;
07:10 nicomo :-)
07:10 nicomo ok let's call it a draw
07:10 nicomo hi Ropuch
07:10 Ropuch Hi chris, nicomo, Amit_laptop ;>
07:09 nicomo hi Amit_laptop
07:09 Amit_laptop heya nicomo, Ropuch
07:05 nicomo evening chris
07:04 chris hi nicomo and Ropuch
07:03 Ropuch Morning #koha
06:59 nicomo morning #koha
06:46 chris cooking with gas
06:46 chris awesome
06:45 htaccess chris: got everything setup at home now too, can pull from you (upstream) and my github (origin)
04:15 munin brendan: The current temperature in Sunset Mountain, Asheville, North Carolina is -0.3�C (11:15 PM EST on February 23, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 PM EST Wednesday...
04:15 brendan @wunder asheville, nc
04:03 brendan heya amit
03:36 Amit heya chris_n
03:33 chris_n heya Amit
03:23 Amit heya brendan, chris
03:23 Amit hi all
02:51 wajasu thanks for the background. So once I get things going, I may have to work on that.
02:32 braedon|work whether you can automate the process of linking existing biblio fields to these authorities, or if you have to go through each biblio in your catalogue and do it manually, i am not sure.
02:31 braedon|work apparently they are usually imported from a marc file provides by some authority(surprisingly)
02:31 braedon|work exactly how you implement authority records, i am not entirely sure
02:30 braedon|work and you can do things like show all biblios linked to a specific authority record, for example the authoritative name of an author. Thus, instead of searching for the author, and getting all books by people with similar names to the author, you only get books actually written by that specific author, assuming your authorities are set up correctly
02:28 braedon|work if you change a authority record, any fields linked to it will also change in sync
02:28 braedon|work you can link a field to one when cataloging
02:27 braedon|work wajasu: as i understand them(not well) authority records provide standard (authoritative) versions of names/titles/etc
02:22 braedon|work ahoy chris_n
02:17 chris_n g'evening
02:15 wajasu ok break time for me.
02:10 wajasu do you know what authorites records are? and whether I need to get them? and how to get them?
02:09 wajasu thanks!
02:08 masonj congrats! :)
02:07 wajasu i will have to divide and conquer the 16000 batch
02:06 wajasu ok. i imported 400 records i had lying around, and then rebuilt (success!) and the search worked.
02:05 masonj but if they were added correctly, then yes - barcodes w ill be created after AddItem() sub, i think
02:04 masonj pass.. it really depends on how they were created/added
02:03 wajasu ok let me try one record
02:02 wajasu if i select the auto barcode generation in the admin prefs, should I have barcodes after a staged style import? or did I need to run a script to fill them in. or have them in my marc records beforehand?
02:02 masonj start by importing *1* record, even ;)
02:01 wajasu i'm gonna have to take a break and eat. but you may know an answer to another question.
02:00 masonj if your marc files are glitchy for starters, then nothing is gonna work
02:00 wajasu ok. i'll try marcdump
01:59 masonj etc...
01:59 masonj $ marclint ./bibs.mrc
01:59 masonj or marclint...
01:59 masonj is a good way to check them
01:58 masonj marcdump ./bibs.mrc
01:58 wajasu many isbns were not split into $a $c and had '(pbk.)' and so on.
01:58 masonj i have never used marcedit, so i dunno if thats common...
01:57 wajasu i had loaded them into marcedit and ran the validator, and there were lots of errors.
01:57 wajasu then I tried the rebuild -r -b with those ENV vars set just as cron would like, but thats when I got that error.
01:57 masonj your biblioitems.marcxml have vailid xml in them?
01:56 masonj cool
01:56 masonj make sure to set your KOHA_CONF, and PERL5LIB env-vars etc..
01:56 wajasu i had 16000 biblios, biblioitems, items, and my items where showing up fine.
01:56 masonj then sucess.
01:55 masonj $ rebuild_zebra -r -b -v 1
01:55 masonj bibs , bibitems, items tables populated. then....
01:55 masonj $ bulkmarcimport --file ./my-bibs.mrc
01:55 wajasu by hand?
01:55 wajasu add my own?
01:54 wajasu is?
01:54 wajasu ok, I'll add a couple that I exported from a prior koha
01:54 masonj easiest way to do is...
01:54 masonj but you knew that , i guess :)
01:54 masonj a rebuild wont work , without any bibs
01:54 wajasu ok
01:53 masonj a few things to check before the zeb-build is gonna fly
01:53 wajasu i reverted my import so no records exist. now I'll try a rebuild
01:53 masonj so...
01:53 masonj if they are missing that field... then the zebra-build wont start
01:52 masonj and do you bibs have correct data in their 'biblioitems.marcxml' field?
01:51 masonj what bibs are you using ?
01:51 wajasu all the directories are owned by koha
01:51 wajasu nothing in /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios/{register,key,shadow,tmp} but README files.
01:50 masonj if youve never indexed a zebradb yet, you need to start with a test system that has CLEAN AND SANE bibs ;)
01:48 masonj ah, i read more! :)
01:47 masonj 'fatal] error about "Node node zebra missing"'
01:47 masonj ahh, reading your previous messages, i see this...
01:46 masonj or is this a 1st time?
01:46 masonj have u had it built/indexed successfully before?
01:45 masonj so your rebuild_zebra.pl isnt succeeding, i think
01:45 wajasu i'll look at the zebradb (/var...?)
01:44 masonj nice work ;)
01:44 masonj which also means your zebradb data-files should be around 0-bytes too
01:44 wajasu i had dumped the records from librarymanager (DOS based). Then wrote a program to read them, converting to utf8, search z3950 servers by isbn, then author and title, then add my call number to 090ab, add a 952 item, and write the marc records.
01:43 masonj im pretty sure..
01:43 masonj wajasu: 'zebraidx(22292) [warn] previous transaction didn't reach commit' is a *FAILED* zebra rebuild..
01:39 wajasu let me revert and import a few
01:39 braedon|work perhaps you have something in one of your marc files that Zebra doesn't like?
01:38 wajasu when i search i get --> zebrasrv(13) [request] Search biblios ERROR 109 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @attr "1=Personal-name" "bridges, charles"
01:38 braedon|work hmm, weird
01:37 wajasu i got --> from the rebuild output zebraidx(22292) [warn] previous transaction didn't reach commit
01:33 braedon|work in which case it is just redoing all the ones before the error is hit
01:33 braedon|work unless the error is only happening at the end
01:33 braedon|work that looks better :p
01:32 wajasu cpu is pegged at 94%
01:32 wajasu ok, i did rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r and its doing something, because it didn't return back yet
01:31 braedon|work (i think it is -r - probably shuld check htat..)
01:30 braedon|work http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2009-May/018314.html <- that is the only reference i can find to the error you are getting - unfortunately not answered by anyone
01:30 braedon|work chuck in a -r to rebuild from scratch
01:28 wajasu let me try a rebuild_zebra.pl
01:28 wajasu i get ERROR 109 in the zerbasrv output
01:27 wajasu nothing. no searches working yet. maybe that [fatal] error about "Node node zebra missing" when i rebuild an index.
01:24 wajasu mysqld is showing 4% cpu, maybe something is going on.
01:23 wajasu ok zebraqueue is running.
01:22 braedon|work hmm, weird. what OS are you on?
01:21 wajasu I'll work on getting that cpan module
01:20 wajasu zebraqueue.pl complains about not finding Unix/Syslog.pm
01:20 wajasu i am trying to start the zebraqueue.pl fromthe command line. the zebrasrv is running fine so far.
01:14 braedon|work http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=koha_3_install_guide_ubuntu_hardy#indexing_using_zebra
01:14 braedon|work you can just start them from command line if you don't want to set them up permanently yet
01:13 braedon|work i'm not sure of the exactly how they are used, but that is the only thing i can see as different to mine
01:13 braedon|work wajasu: I would suggest getting the zebra and zebraqueue daemons running and then trying again
01:04 wajasu i also get these after doing the fast search ( perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -v -b -w) as koha --> "[fatal] Node node_zebra missing", "[warn] Cannot obtain EXPLAIN information", "[fatal] zebra_begin_trans: cannot open register"
01:03 richard any danger to koha from upgrading from debian etch to lenny?
01:02 wajasu i haven't run zebraqueue yet
01:02 wajasu my search isn't working
01:00 wajasu i'm doing a fast index now
00:59 braedon|work unless i have been repeatedly extremely luck with timing?
00:59 braedon|work then again, whenever i have added single books via Koha, they have shown up immediately in searches, without time for the cron job to run...
00:59 wizzyrea a full reindex takes a long time
00:59 wizzyrea braedon is correct: -z only does stuff that is waiting, instead of processing everything
00:59 wajasu ok. the items show. good.
00:58 wajasu ahh
00:58 braedon|work not sure
00:57 braedon|work perhaps zebra queue recieves the tasks from Koha, and the cron job actually processes them?
00:57 braedon|work that cron job is set to -z, which is "process zebra queue" if i remember correctly
00:57 wajasu now let me search
00:57 wajasu hurray! the items show. 16000 biblios, biblioitems, and items
00:55 braedon|work ... good point
00:55 braedon|work when you change things in Koha, they are pushed onto the queue, and the zebraqueue daemon handles them, as far as i am aware
00:54 wajasu what is the rebuild_zebra.pl every 5 minues(via cron) for then?
00:54 braedon|work yip
00:54 wajasu i haven't run zebraqueue.pl yet on this system. is that a queue that handles updating the zebra index on the fly or what?
00:52 wajasu wait. its importing. (1 minute and it will be done)
00:52 braedon|work s/being/bring/
00:51 braedon|work if you search, does it being up any results?
00:51 wajasu the zebrasrv is.
00:50 braedon|work is zebraqueue runing?
00:50 wajasu now i'll try an import but with my library code.
00:50 wajasu its undone. and zero entries in my biblios, items, and biblioitems.
00:49 braedon|work when it finally finished, they sill where showing up in searches
00:49 braedon|work i left one of mine running for at least 4 hours using 80%cpu processing zebraqueue after a import undo
00:48 braedon|work have to completely regen index, rather than letting the queue remove the old ones - it just doesn't seem to
00:48 braedon|work beware of undoing imports - kills zebra indexing for me
00:47 braedon|work yeah, you need the library code
00:45 wajasu lets see if undo import get me empty tables.
00:43 wajasu my items table is empty.
00:43 wajasu i had put items in my marc records (952 field). I don't see any in the db. maybe because I didn't add the library code until after I imported.
00:41 braedon|work wouldn't have a clue about those later errors sorry - my knowledge of Zebra extends to what have personally encountered, and not an inch further :(
00:40 wajasu i've been only changin the db password, and something to dom, and no SRU. The rest the same.
00:39 braedon|work unless you didn't set the koha user correctly in Makefile.pl run?
00:38 braedon|work you need to do it as root for a standard install, but not sure how you would end up with the wrong user with standard install
00:38 wajasu i staged and imported 1600 records.
00:38 wajasu 3.02 version
00:38 wajasu but this is my first time using zebra.
00:37 wajasu i did mine as root.
00:37 wajasu now it gets further, but complains about "[fatal] Node node_zebra missing", "[warn] Cannot obtain EXPLAIN information", "[fatal] zebra_begin_trans: cannot open register"
00:36 braedon|work chris: are you supposed to do the "make install" for a dev install as root? i did mine as root as usual, had the permissions issue, so next time tried doing it as Koha. It went through fine, and no permissions issues (obviously)
00:35 wajasu i'm doing a fast index now
00:35 wajasu i did chown -R koha:koha /var/run/koha and /var/lock/koha
00:34 wajasu yes
00:33 braedon|work is this Zebra permissions?
00:32 wajasu i thought i did a standard install. ok , checking perms.
00:20 chris if you do a standard install it does that for you, a dev one misses that step
00:20 chris id chown those dirs -R to koha
00:17 wajasu when i rebuild my indexes, it says --> 17:57:40-23/02 zebraidx(20131) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied]
00:15 wajasu when you do an install of koha, do you run 'make install' as root? (or koha). Cause by zebra /var/lock/koha/biblios files are owned by root. I run zebrasrv and rebuild_zebra.pl as koha.