Time Nick Message 23:25 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -6.5�C (5:21 PM CST on February 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling). 23:25 moodaepo @wunder 56001 22:39 Lee :P okay then I'll try and catch you at the next meeting. 22:38 Lee before I go, every groovey in Koha-land? 22:37 Lee not that it will do one bit of good 22:37 Lee I guess maybe I will direct my rant toward him 22:37 Lee Oh wait here is his email address! 22:36 Lee but they are branching out in Europe... 22:35 chris yeah 22:35 Lee It seems every one wants to tell libraries exactly how they will handle info.... 22:35 chris maybe in the US, OCLC doesnt help nz libraries much at all 22:35 Lee Just makes me sad 22:34 Lee I know it is all about the money...but if you don't know about z39.50 a librarian might think OCLC is the only game in town 22:34 * chris is sick of anglocentric rants 22:33 chris if not, he can stfu 22:33 chris do they have catalogue records in maori? 22:33 Lee Yeah he says that those records aren't quality material 22:33 chris people don't like competition 22:32 Lee The tone reminds me of Abrams rant 22:32 Lee They say if all libraries don't use OCLC exclusively they will have to be for profit 22:31 chris OCLC get more greedy every year 22:31 chris LOL 22:31 Lee Just got a white paper (sort of) from OCLC's Larry Alford, Chair of the Board of Trustees saying using Z39.50 isn't fair to OCLC and that it is a "lite cataloging service" for libraries cataloging on the cheap 21:59 cait ok, time to go to bed :) good night koha 21:39 cait that what I told them 21:39 chris yeah you'd have to write the cron job, but cant see why not 21:33 owen Makes sense 21:32 cait next question was if you can change btypes from child to adult by cronjob ;) 21:28 cait :) 21:28 chris heh 21:28 owen We project our wishes on features we don't understand :) 21:27 cait I was asked during a presentation if you could restrict items to age groups with htis setting 21:27 owen I wonder if it's just a MARC thing that has no connection to functionality 21:26 jdavidb Y'all have a good day. See you tomorrow. 21:26 owen I never really wondered about it until today looking at someone's screenshot. But I agree cait I don't think it actually does anything. 21:26 cait im not sure it really does something 21:25 chris pass 21:25 owen What is the purpose of the "RESTRICTED" authorized value? 21:24 jwagner Good night, all.... 21:23 * jdavidb watches his iTunes panic over having 30-odd things to download.. 21:23 IrmaCalyx :-) 21:23 jwagner well, you've been putting up with our complaining for the last few weeks :-) 21:22 IrmaCalyx Thanks for listening to my complaining...it's helping already! 21:21 jdavidb you've got the sauna effect going on, which may be worse. 21:21 IrmaCalyx So yes send your snow "down under" 21:21 wizzyrea jdavidb: large freighter with lots of containers 21:21 jdavidb I used to live in the West Texas desert, IrmaCalyx. It's like living in a microwave oven, isn't it? 21:21 IrmaCalyx Thinking in constant heat, high humidity and no wind is hard 21:20 jwagner Meet you halfway for the exchange? Hmm. What's roughly halfway between DC and Sydney? Hawaii? Midway? 21:20 * jdavidb gets out a biiiiig box. 21:20 IrmaCalyx Thanks, that would be good! 21:19 * wizzyrea raises her hand 21:19 jwagner Want us to box up some snow in return? 21:19 * jwagner sticks my hand up too 21:19 * jdavidb raises his hand. 21:19 IrmaCalyx Would anyone like some off the excess heat we have in Sydney this morning? 21:17 jdavidb I took some great pics of a friend at Dealey, and the Kennedy Cenotaph monument a few blocks away a few years ago, for a model portfolio. 21:17 wizzyrea man, all I could think of was john wilkes booth, but I think who I was really thinking of was Lee Harvey oswald 21:17 chris oh i meant to go visit that when i was in plano, but ran out of time 21:16 chris back 21:16 wizzyrea :) 21:16 wizzyrea probably why they call it "the sixth floor museum" 21:16 IrmaCalyx G'day #Koha 21:16 owen What a way to describe where you work. "You know, where JFK was shot from?" 21:15 wizzyrea dealey* 21:15 wizzyrea on Dealy plaza 21:15 wizzyrea where JFK was shot from? 21:15 wizzyrea you know, the museum on the 6th floor of the texas schoolbook depository 21:15 owen ? 21:14 wizzyrea oh wow, pauline is from the 6th floor museum 21:12 jdavidb yah. Techonolically, I've rarely had trouble with Verizon. Billing and customer service folks reek badly, but the service itself has been usually very good. 21:11 jwagner Compared to some of the Comcast techs I've dealt with over the last few months, that's a BIG plus. 21:10 jdavidb I won't quibble. The techs--both of them--were talented and quick. 21:09 jdavidb :) 21:08 jwagner Two weeks to get someone there, 10 minutes to fix. Is it just me, or is there something wrong with this picture? 21:08 Genji so, how do i tell 'scan' to return the phrase indexed items instead of the word list? 21:07 jdavidb They did! Didn't take ten minutes to fix, either. 21:06 * chris goes to get a coffee bbiab 21:06 jwagner You mean Verizon finally came? 21:06 chris sweet :-) 21:06 * jdavidb rejoins the world of DSL, happily. 20:53 chris hm i wonder if anyone can help pauline, i dunno the answer im afraid 20:43 wizzyrea munin is having an existential crisis 20:43 Genji Or do i need to remove the first 'subject' from the marc def? 20:42 Genji so, how do i tell scan to return the phrase indexed items instead of the word list? 20:41 Genji hmm... the subject is just stored in one marc field. its not even in a subfield. and yes, i ment 1=21. 20:41 munin gmcharlt: Error: "be" is not a valid command. 20:41 gmcharlt munin: be quiet 20:40 munin gmcharlt: Error: "attr" is not a valid command. 20:40 gmcharlt @attr 4=21 ? did you mean @attr 1=21 ? 20:40 gmcharlt it is possible to construct phrase indexes, although they currently don't span subfield boundaries 20:39 Genji gmcharlt: hmm.... the index for subject goes 'subject, subject:p' 20:38 gmcharlt Genji: artifact of the index setup 20:37 gmcharlt cool 20:37 gmcharlt hi Amy! 20:37 chris gmcharlt: another blocker bites the dust :-) 20:37 Genji hello all. in regard to subject indexing.. i used "scan @attr 4=21 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 <term last returned>" to get the subject list.... my client comments "I noticed that all the subjects consist of one word. in fact, most of our subjects are phrases (two or more words)." why is this? 20:37 jwagner If you want to privately lurk, you need a disguised nickname :-) 20:37 chris :) 20:37 adegroff just quietly but publicly lurking 20:36 chris hows things? 20:36 adegroff :-) 20:36 chris hey its amy! 20:35 chris needed a shift refresh to beat the js into submission 20:35 chris ahh my bad 20:34 jwagner OK, I have maybe 4-5 more that aren't entered, but I need to gather more info on them first. 20:33 gmcharlt anything in the javascript error console or Firebug? 20:33 chris the js is still not letting me click save when i toggle a checkbox 20:32 chris gmcharlt: i just tested 4155 20:32 collum jwagner: yep. What they said --- 20:32 jwagner It sounded like it, from the description. Yet another one to reconcile :-( 20:31 gmcharlt jwagner: collum's patch does part of that 20:31 jwagner Yes. It should be the total count of all holds on the title. 20:30 owen The yellow box at the bottom is a message displayed below the holdings table? 20:30 owen jwagner: Regarding http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=1662 20:28 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4243 enhancement, P5, ---, kohaprogrammers@ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Show hold status in OPAC/staff 20:28 jwagner collum, see Bug 4243 -- I think your patch from last night may have done something similar? 20:15 chris MARC has a lot to answer for :) 20:14 gmcharlt possibly adopting by adopting FRBRisms 20:14 collum interesting 20:14 chris yeah id love to get that back, maybe at a level above marc .. rather than between biblio and item like it used to be 20:13 gmcharlt yeah, it had a concept of meta-bibs 20:12 owen That's Koha version 1 isn't it chris? :) 20:11 collum Another variation of holds would be to tie bibs together. Multiple bibs satisfying one hold. In other words, I don't care if I get the large type or regular type. 20:10 collum For all of the enhancements. 20:10 collum :) 20:09 cait nice! 20:09 jwagner owen, I don't know. Shouldn't be too hard -- maybe set up a different syspref & copy the code we did for item types? 20:08 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4240 enhancement, P5, ---, kohaprogrammers@ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Add a "did you mean" spell checker to the OPAC 20:08 cait bug 4240 20:08 cait :) 20:06 owen If we get this enhancement it will enable us to actually use Koha's serials management. 20:06 owen Definitely useful for serials. 20:06 cait I think its useful for serials 20:06 * owen wonders how difficult it would be to modify the feature to accept ccodes... 20:04 jwagner I'm not sure it's come up as a problem so far. I think they're allowing it on all DVDs. If it were a problem, then yes, they'd have to create a separate item type. 20:04 owen Setting the rule to apply to your "DVD" item type will allow multi-item holds on all DVDs. Does that mean they intend to create a separate itemtype for multi-volume DVDs? 20:03 jwagner Like one title for Lost, with items attached for Season One, Season Two, etc. 20:03 owen I do wonder about the example you cite in the bug report: a multiple-volume DVD. 20:03 owen jwagner: I barely recall our previous conversation. 20:03 cait lol 20:02 jwagner owen, yes I think you also asked for a pony during that conversation. However, none of our clients have sponsored pony functionality. Therefore, you're on your own for that one :-) 20:01 chris as well as all the new ones they also love 20:00 chris but it is nice features they used to love are coming back 20:00 chris hehe, they got plenty back in return 19:59 owen Poor HLT, the wide world got ahold of their software and junked it up something good ;) 19:59 owen the bug report says it works per-itemtype. I'd love to see the option of alternatively doing it per-ccode 19:59 cait our library too 19:59 chris HLT will be super happy 19:59 chris if that gets done we are back at 1.03 ;-) 19:58 chris wow that will be awseome 19:58 * owen wonders if he asked for a pony 19:58 jwagner (only allow holds on certain item types, wasn't it?) 19:58 jwagner owen, that's the one I was talking to you about a couple of weeks ago, that might be extended to what you were wanting. 19:57 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4239 enhancement, P5, ---, kohaprogrammers@ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Allow holds on multiple items of selected titles 19:57 owen Bug 4239! 19:56 jwagner Good question. I'd have to set up a test & see. 19:55 owen jwagner: Do you know if it clear the Cart? 19:55 * chris looks forward to committing the patches to 3.4 19:55 chris that will be handy, actually both will :) 19:54 jwagner owen, I don't know specifics on the code without looking, but it's a simple timeout -- no activity for X seconds and it goes back to OPAC main page (and does a logout if someone is logged in). 19:54 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4237 enhancement, P5, ---, kohaprogrammers@ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Add other item statuses 19:53 jwagner I'm particularly interested in what people think of Bug 4237 19:53 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4238 enhancement, P5, ---, kohaprogrammers@ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, OPAC timeout feature for patron privacy 19:53 owen jwagner: I'd love to hear how you implemented Bug 4238. We've talked about that one before but no one ever followed through 19:53 chris sweet 19:53 jwagner owen, I'm finally getting around to creating the bugzilla entries for the last dozen or so that I didn't do earlier. Some of them I think are going to be VERY well received. 19:53 owen new stuff in Bugzilla at least 19:52 chris awesome 19:52 chris oh yeah? 19:52 owen (and Middletown Township Public Library) 19:52 owen Lots of great enhancements coming up from PTFS! 19:50 chris naw, thats less portable 19:50 braedon|work was assuming it was the mysql md5 hash 19:50 braedon|work fun 19:50 braedon|work ahh, done in perl 19:49 chris from Digest::MD5 19:49 chris md5_base64 19:48 braedon|work anyone know the function used to hash borrower passwords? 19:45 chris hiya cait 19:43 cait hi chris 19:43 chris back 19:38 jdavidb I told them if a Verizon tech happened by here, I'd make sure he stayed here until it was fixed. I got a big chain and a padlock... 19:38 jdavidb Verizon's service rocked, technologically, until the Snowpocalypse on Feb 7. (Took them three tries to get *billing* right, but the service worked.) Been down ever since. 19:37 gmcharlt yes, we're quite proud of our "hi"-"speed" internet service 19:37 owen That sounds like the American way, where the "two" is sometimes replaced with "one" 19:36 * jdavidb grumps around some. Two choices for internet service, and both of them stink. 19:35 * owen thought that had been working properly before 19:34 gmcharlt yeah, that would make more sense than "surname" 19:33 owen ...but shouldn't there just be one "name" field, labelled "name?" 19:33 schuster That explains it then... 19:32 gmcharlt yeah - theory is that institutional patrons don't have first names 19:32 schuster Didn't think about categories asking for different things. 19:31 schuster Oh ... I selected library... 19:31 owen What category patron schuster? 19:31 schuster This is for a "NEW" patron not an existing one. 19:30 schuster very odd... 19:30 owen Yes 19:30 schuster 3.01.00.124 - is that what you all have? 19:29 schuster This is a fresh install nothing ever on this computer other than windows before Debian took over. 19:29 gmcharlt as do I 19:29 owen I see first name. 19:28 schuster This is a git pull from ?? Last night? 19:27 schuster I need someone to test adding a patron for me and tell me if the memberentry.pl is missing first name on the form. I have Surname and other name only. 19:27 owen We never understood what it was for :) 19:26 owen Oh wow, "claims returned." Our old system had that and I almost forgot about it. 19:26 schuster wizzyrea or nengard about? 19:21 gmcharlt wajasu: http://www.graphicsmagick.org/perl.html 19:16 wajasu i might have found something. I'll check if it has perl bindings. 19:15 wajasu ok let me see if there is a perlmagick package 19:13 wajasu i'm running archlinux. Trying to write up an install.archlinux 19:12 gmcharlt if so, you can apt-get install libimage-magick-perl 19:11 gmcharlt trying to help you - are you running Debian, Ubuntu, or the like? 19:10 wajasu wondering where I can find the perl module Graphics::Magick to install 3.02-alpha 19:10 gmcharlt wajasu: what platform are you using? 19:08 wajasu i'm trying to install 3.02-alpha and Makefile.PL mentions a perl modules that I can't find in cpan. Graphics::Magick 18:31 jwagner melting_snow++ 18:29 collum Melting snow. 18:28 munin collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is 7.8�C (1:25 PM EST on February 22, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Falling). Dense fog advisory in effect until 4 PM EST this afternoon... 18:28 collum @wunder 41011 18:23 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on February 23, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 18:23 chris @wunder wellington, nz 18:21 munin ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal / Dorval International, Que, Quebec is -2.0�C (1:00 PM EST on February 22, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). 18:21 ebegin @wunder montreal, quebec 18:21 munin ebegin: Karma for "ram_leaks" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. 18:21 ebegin @karma ram_leaks 18:21 ebegin karma ram_leaks 18:02 chris_n ram_leaks-- 17:59 chris pootle fixed, fredericd fyi, pootle leaks ram and needs a restart every so often 17:59 chris and morning all 17:58 chris amy works at ptfs now? 17:51 nengard agreed 17:43 owen The trouble is, just pointing to the page without indication that (let alone how) it has been updated is similarly confusing. 17:42 * wizzyrea is not a diff fan :P 17:24 * ebegin is having hard time to remember his yahoo ID and pwd... it's been so long... 17:23 nengard the yahoo pipe poulates a lot of pages automatically - not just twitter 17:22 ebegin I think that it useless to tweet the differences on a page on twitter... 17:21 nengard i'll let the boys duke it out 17:21 gmcharlt ;) 17:21 gmcharlt but owen, if you want to see the full pages, couldn't you click on the links? 17:20 ebegin :) 17:20 owen But gmcharlt, if you want to see the diffs couldn't you use the RSS feed? 17:20 nengard i think we should just leave it and those who don't like it can click on the page link at the top to see the full page 17:20 gmcharlt owen: yes 17:20 nengard :) see 17:20 * gmcharlt prefers the diffs 17:19 nengard some people like that it goes to the diff page... 17:19 nengard owen ebegin - but this is one of those situations where we're split 17:19 owen That's an interesting idea ebegin 17:18 ebegin ok. You can add some string manipulation on the feed within Yahoo Pipes to get rid of "&do=diff" at the end 17:18 owen Is the wiki hosted by LibLime? 17:18 nengard don't know if it's a limitation ... it's just the way the rss is generated ... don't knwo if we can change it 17:17 ebegin Was that a limitation of wiki? 17:17 nengard tha's the wiki RSS feed - so unless that changes.... 17:17 nengard but i can't do anything about it 17:17 nengard it does 17:17 ebegin nengard, in my opiniion, someone clicking on the link through twitter would expect to get the content. Make sense? 17:16 gmcharlt owen answered that :) 17:16 nengard own and gmcharlt are right - I having it pull any Koha specific rss I can find 17:15 gmcharlt never mind 17:15 nengard I didn't like it either until chris pointed out that the page it points to at least shows us what's changed 17:15 gmcharlt ebegin: yes - I think it's something nengard set up that's pulling from a couple RSS feeds 17:14 owen ebegin: I agree that is annoying, but I think it may be a limitation of the wiki software in terms of what kind of RSS it generates 17:13 ebegin Asking the question because the links always point to the diff pages, not the page themself, ex: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=ubuntu_9.04_based_opac_kiosk&rev=1266856895&do=diff 17:13 owen ebegin: http://pipes.yahoo.com/nengard/kohablogs 17:12 tekonivel owen: ok no worries. i'm going through the answers of our 23 things -cource in the meanwhile :) 17:12 ebegin I mean on http://twitter.com/kohails 17:11 ebegin Are the tweet of Koha ILS are generated automatically? 17:10 * jwagner puts on my karma-magnet suit 17:10 jdavidb oooooo... 17:10 munin jdavidb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 18 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 18. 17:10 jdavidb @karma jwagner 17:09 * jwagner will have to get to work, accruing new karma, to stay ahead.... 17:07 * jdavidb does a little happy dance. 17:07 munin jwagner: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 16 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 16. 17:07 jwagner @karma jdavidb 17:05 jdavidb We had two different folks go at that two different ways; at some point, it may be useful to reconcile them--but they work. 17:05 jdavidb :) 17:04 gmcharlt yep 17:04 jdavidb Thanks, gmcharlt! Was that for the 3482 pull req? 17:03 gmcharlt liz-nekls: thanks 17:03 gmcharlt jdavidb++ 17:03 owen tekonivel: I think you'll have to wait for chris to wake up 17:02 tekonivel i wonder if anyone here could do something about Koha Pootle at http://translate.koha.org. It barfs on me :-Q 16:50 jdavidb Plenty. :P 16:50 * jwagner hopes jdavidb has some padding.... 16:49 * jdavidb brings in another Velcro Chair, and sits down on it. 16:48 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 13.0�C (5:30 PM CET on February 22, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). 16:48 nicomo @wunder marseille france 16:47 nicomo just compensation for Paul, who's in warmer still Marseille 16:47 jwagner Harrumph. 16:47 nicomo indeed I am 16:47 jwagner nicomo, you wouldn't be gloating, would you? 16:47 wizzyrea snow everywhere :P 16:47 nicomo omg 16:47 wizzyrea brr 16:47 munin wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -5.1�C (10:46 AM CST on February 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -5.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Rising). 16:47 wizzyrea @wunder Lawrence, KS 16:46 nicomo eh, I have Californian weather: 11.8°C :-) 16:45 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is 11.8�C (5:00 PM CET on February 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.35 in 993.8 hPa (Steady). 16:45 nicomo @wunder lyon france 16:40 kf bye all :) 16:29 jdavidb :P It looks very nice out there right now. Just chilly. But the piles of snow and ice are meltin'. 16:27 jwagner wizzyrea, jdavidb's weather forecast? 16:26 kf pootle is ill - does chris knowß 16:26 wizzyrea jdavidb: I can't decide if that's exciting or ominous 16:25 jdavidb Hi, kf! :) 16:23 kf hi #koha 16:21 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 6.8�C (11:13 AM EST on February 22, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Rising). 16:21 jdavidb @wunder 20852 16:21 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 11.8�C (8:17 AM PST on February 22, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Rising). 16:21 brendan @wunder 93117 16:21 munin brendan: The current temperature in Sunset Mountain, Asheville, North Carolina is 8.4�C (11:21 AM EST on February 22, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Falling). 16:21 brendan @wunder asheville, nc 16:07 * jdavidb has a Monday morning present for gmcharlt. 16:02 wizzyrea is it the same with the amazon images? 16:01 zico wizzyrea: they are google images 15:58 wizzyrea ? 15:58 wizzyrea zico: are they amazon images or google images 15:47 joetho_away older Koha versions get images based on ISBN. I'm not sure about v3.05. 15:29 hdl_laptop I donot have any image on my instance So Cannot test 15:27 zico Ah!!! :( 15:26 hdl_laptop zico: could be a bug in 3.0.5 15:26 hdl_laptop hi 15:24 joetho_away test 15:19 wizzyrea :P 15:19 wizzyrea very pretty 15:19 wizzyrea ooh, I like the sound for "hold found" 14:56 zico is it bug? 14:50 zico Ropuch: so, it`s a bug? 14:45 Ropuch zico: it's the same for me 14:45 zico can anyone help me a little? 14:45 zico is it bug of koha-3.0.5 or not? 14:41 zico means... i am getting same image for each and every item of Shelf 14:41 zico then..the images of books of that Shelf comes same 14:40 zico but.. when i search any book and click "Browse Shelf" 14:40 zico i don`t know.. if it is bug or not 14:40 zico i am watching a strange matter in Koha-3.0.5 14:40 wizzyrea hi zico 14:40 zico hi 14:39 wizzyrea chris will be up in a couple of hours 14:39 tekonivel they're possibly fast asleep 14:39 tekonivel i wonder if any admins are here atm 14:39 tekonivel translate.koha.org is b00rken :( 14:39 tekonivel oshit! 14:21 liz-nekls lots of stuff today 14:21 liz-nekls I pulled the new weekend stuff, will look at the status stuff here in a bit 14:21 * owen wonders why the leader for all children's picture books in our collection indicates that they are sound recordings... 14:20 liz-nekls so I'm asking my coworkers to please check it again this morning 14:20 liz-nekls this is the intranet cart, not the opac cart, but even so I wasn't able to reproduce it this morning 14:19 liz-nekls gmcharlt: I left off something very important on 4231 14:19 liz-nekls lol 14:18 * jdavidb velcroes liz-nekls to her chair. 14:14 wizzyrea_laptop :D hi there! 14:14 * jdavidb waves at wizzyrea_laptop. 14:13 wizzyrea_laptop mornin hdl_laptop 14:13 hdl_laptop hi liz-nekls 14:13 liz-nekls good morning 14:13 hdl_laptop and revert this patch 14:13 hdl_laptop Gonna work on that. 14:12 hdl_laptop Just to tell You I had received your email. 14:10 gmcharlt what's up? 14:10 gmcharlt hi hdl_laptop 14:08 chris_n ahh.. I see 14:08 hdl_laptop (in the index declaration) 14:08 hdl_laptop (seriously, space in record.abs can beak things) 14:08 chris_n I'll take a look at record.abs 14:08 chris_n probably the second, the way things go around here :) 14:07 chris_n hehe 14:07 hdl_laptop a space attack 14:07 hdl_laptop some changes in record.abs ? 14:07 chris_n rebuild_zebra.pl has been running with no errors every 20 minutes 14:06 chris_n this has happened for every item cataloged since last Thursday 14:05 chris_n any thoughts on what might cause a new item not to be indexed in zebra even though the entry in zebraqueue is marked as done? 14:05 chris_n g'morning 14:01 hdl_laptop hi all 14:01 * collum saw a discrepancy in a record yesterday between xsl and non-xsl, but I thought it was bad data. 14:01 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: around ? 14:01 owen (and your fix is working for me collum) 14:00 owen XSL results in the OPAC are correct 14:00 owen No 14:00 jwagner owen, I've seen something similar, trying to remember where & what the fix was. You're not running independent branches, are you? 13:59 collum Do you get different results for xsl and non-xsl displays? 13:55 owen It's only because I was looking carefully at the "on hold" status from your patch collum that I noticed the item count 13:54 owen No collum I see this in one of my older branches too 13:53 * owen tries again 13:53 owen That's just what I was testing collum, and I don't think it's a result of your patch. 13:53 collum owen: did you apply my 'on hold' patch I did this weekend? Hope it's not a result of my patch. 13:50 owen Where are the other 6? 13:50 owen Is this new or have I not noticed it before? On my search results page: "7 available: * Wells [J DiTerlizzi] (1)" 13:49 kf online training - bbl :) 13:49 jwagner Code4Lib? Hope it's fun. 13:47 owen Hi gmcharlt 13:47 gmcharlt greetings from not-so-sunny Asheville 13:43 jwagner owen, as long as it's JUST rain and not ice or more snow... 13:39 owen We've got it today, and it's a refreshing change 13:39 jwagner Guten tag, kf 13:38 jwagner Not yet, due in later tonight, I think. 13:38 owen You guys getting rain over there in the DC area? 13:36 kf hi owen and jwagner 13:34 jwagner G'morning owen 13:33 owen Hi everyone 13:30 jdavidb You'd have to have AccessLog set to something meaningful in the Vhost definition, of course. Those logs can get pretty big in a hurry, so best done carefully. 13:29 magnus thanks, that's what i thought... 13:29 jdavidb I would definitely do that through the apache logs, magnus. 13:21 magnus i'm collecting statistics - is there any way to get the number of performed searches from inside Koha, or is that a job for the apache logs? 12:18 tekonivel but yeah, so much easier if you can pop the hood of the ILS and take a look what happens underneath 12:17 tekonivel magnus: yeah, but there's no proper, standard way for ILS<->OPAC interaction, so screenscraping and reindexing needs to be done, with backlinks for functions like placing holds 12:16 magnus yeah, when you have an open system like koha that supports lots of protocols it shouldn't be too hard... ;-) 12:15 tekonivel but other dicovery layers are Koha compatible too, like SOPAC 12:15 magnus ok 12:15 tekonivel magnus: yeah, so they claim 12:15 magnus they have a discovery layer that works with koha? 12:15 tekonivel or so they claim... i haven't seen that in action 12:14 tekonivel it's works with Koha too :) 12:14 tekonivel magnus: ok, their products seems quite well thought. only in the discovery layer -arena though 12:13 magnus s/nut/but/ 12:13 magnus tekonivel: no, i have heard about them, nut not been in contact 12:12 magnus tekonivel: you are probably very welcome! there will be a conference/hackfest around it, probably after the summer 12:12 tekonivel have you had chats with Teknikhuset and their CS Library? 12:12 tekonivel i want to join you guys :) 12:11 tekonivel magnus: i wish we had something like that too. 12:11 tekonivel magnus: fscking a!! great, go for it! 12:09 magnus tekonivel: there is going to be some cooperation around the swedish project Öppna bibliotek (sharing of user-generated data) this year, we just got the grant to do it 12:06 tekonivel magnus: great. i'm sure they'd be willing to cooperate 12:06 kf lunch time, bbl 12:05 magnus tekonivel: yeah, a bit, from a distance - they are doing some very interesting things 12:05 tekonivel magnus: have you been keeping an eye on danish projects, like Summa and TING? 12:04 tekonivel magnus: awesome :) 12:04 slef English is an evil language. 12:04 magnus slef: hehe 12:04 slef 12:04 slef Special \Spe"cial\, a. [...] 4. Limited in range; [1913 Webster] 12:04 magnus s/out/our/ 12:03 magnus we are going to have out big, national library conference in about a month, and Axiell is actually not among the exhibitors - maybe too busy in Finland... ;-) but koha will be there! ;-) 12:03 tekonivel magnus: lol that sounds so familiar... 12:01 magnus and i think norwegian libraries have some notion of being special and not able to use what others are using... 12:01 slef I have heard from Welsh libraries that they have had to translate Engish systems (often a legal requirement) and pay for the privilege of doing so. 12:01 tekonivel slef: that's one thing definetely 12:01 magnus i think language is a part of it, yeah 12:00 tekonivel have you any idea if Axiell has been looking at your market at all? here it was a bit of a surprise... they came from nowhere and acquired all of Finland, basically 12:00 slef Is that because of the languages, or other factors? 12:00 magnus Bibliofil, Mikromarc, Tidemann and some Aleph in the public libraries 12:00 tekonivel ah ok 12:00 magnus not much, we have norwegian systems 11:59 tekonivel magnus: you've got Axiell there too, don't you? 11:59 magnus norway is a bit different, we have a mix of systems in public libraries 11:59 tekonivel earlier we had the market basically divided between ATP and Tieto, (after a few merges), but nowadays it's just Axiell alone (plus Innovative in Helsinki region, like mentioned 11:58 tekonivel yeah... :( it's a small market up here and libraries tend to choose what the neighbour has too 11:57 slef (software.coop sold Koha to a client in Sweden a few years ago and it was very tough) 11:57 slef tekonivel: as I understand it, it's unusual in global sense for any library management system to be dominant in a country/sector market, but I think it happens more often in your part of the world and I'm not sure why. 11:55 tekonivel i'm talking about public libraries here... academic and other sorts of libraries are a world of theeir own 11:53 tekonivel in the helsinki region (about 1 million ppl) we're using Innovative Millenium 11:53 tekonivel so now they basically have a monopoly in defining what kinds of library services 4.5 million finnish taxpayers can get 11:52 tekonivel Axiell bought all the library systems on the market 11:52 tekonivel gmcharlt: yeah the situation is kind of odd here at the moment 11:51 gmcharlt I happy to see that some libraries there are looking at Koha 11:51 tekonivel awwwww 11:51 gmcharlt when I was at Endeavor, I worked a bit with the LINNEA consortium and their Voyager setup 11:50 kf tekonivel++ 11:49 gmcharlt tekonivel++ 11:46 tekonivel we're are possibly facing a very unconvenient situation, where one company (Axiell) has full market dominance in public library systems. we're now translating koha to feed discussion and hopefully also dynamics on the marketplace 11:39 kf :) 11:34 tekonivel we even have a handful of libraries using Koha in their everyday operations, though no public libraries at the moment 11:33 tekonivel anyhow, a few libraries are interested in Koha up here in Finland, and we're translating the OPAC as a centralized effort on behalf of Kirjastot.fi (it's all a bit complicated to explain how we're organized9 11:31 tekonivel instad of waiting for a year for a comma to be replaced 11:29 kf yes it is :) 11:29 tekonivel it's so much easier to update translation of Koha that some proprietary system, because we can do the modifications ourselves 11:28 tekonivel luckily we've got a fairly standard library-lingo up here in Finland 11:28 kf neverneverneverending ;) 11:27 kf something is changed, you find new typos, terms got translated differently at different places... 11:27 tekonivel kf: i didn't want to hear that :) 11:26 kf be warned: translation is a neverending process 11:26 tekonivel kf: genau :) 11:25 kf German 11:25 tekonivel kf: which language are u translating, by the way? 11:25 tekonivel kf: ok thanks, this straightened my thought quite a bit 11:21 tekonivel but i was wondering if there's a standard procedure for this 11:21 kf tekonivel: chris hat a koha installation for translation some time ago - perhaps ask him how he kept it up to date 11:21 tekonivel we're only translated 25% of the OPAC at this time, so no tests are beginning yet 11:20 tekonivel kf: ok, thanks 11:20 kf my colleague does the updates, but I think he uses wget 11:20 tekonivel hmm, testing the translation with a live system might yield some user feedback 11:19 tekonivel that i should be aware of 11:19 tekonivel kf: what method are you using to update the translation, from Pootle to your Koha. wget or something similar? or is there a proper tool for this? 11:18 tekonivel to isolate users, basically 11:18 kf no, our test installation, but we had no problems so far 11:18 tekonivel kf: then users won't get all confused when the interfaces keeps changing all the time 11:18 kf where is the advantage of a pseudo language to the normal language code? 11:18 tekonivel kf: you're not using a live system while testing the translatin, are you 11:17 kf not sure I understand your problem, we have a test installation where we update translation with files from pootle after I changed things. 11:17 * htaccess goes to bed 11:17 tekonivel i thought i could download the .po -file with wget, and assign it to a language, say fi_FI-test, and then iterate thought testing, translating and wgetting 11:17 htaccess oh well, its either merge hell or throw away a huge patch i spent the evening on ... 11:16 tekonivel on Koha site 11:16 tekonivel yeah, pootle indeed 11:16 kf tekonivel: are u using pootle for translation? 11:16 tekonivel perhaps we should define a new pseudo-language in the interface, and use our translation-in-progres .po -file for that 11:15 tekonivel i would like to hear what is your favourite way to test the translation 11:15 tekonivel i'm translating Koha to finnish (language of Finland :) 11:14 tekonivel hello all 11:14 htaccess yea i tried rebasing against originmaster 11:13 gmcharlt anyway, it looks like your topic branch was based on chris' master branch, but you tried rebasing against originmaster 11:12 htaccess i just committed a big patch to this branch tho, i though i had merged it properly before i started 11:11 htaccess http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/04b3fb 11:11 gmcharlt ah, OK, I see the patch in chris' master branch 11:10 gmcharlt do a git log in your local repo - I'm curious what it says about the Revision History tab patch 11:10 htaccess i think its stuff from chrises master 11:09 htaccess and now i got more conflicts 11:09 htaccess well i just did a continue after fixing those 11:09 gmcharlt if you can abort the rebase 11:08 gmcharlt but that you have patches in your tree that didn't come from the main HEAD (or originnmaster in your case) 11:08 gmcharlt right - the issue isn't necessarily with the repo you're rebasing from 11:06 htaccess and the tmpl one 11:03 htaccess looks like the top one for Members.pm 11:03 htaccess http://github.com/ranginui/koha/blob/originmaster/C4/Members.pm 11:01 htaccess its from chrises origionmaster which it tracking git.koha master afaik 11:00 gmcharlt htaccess: I don't recognize the GetMemberRevisions bit - is that a local development you're working on? 10:57 htaccess i have a merge confilct rebasing 10:57 htaccess um could someone tell me which are the correct bits in these two files: http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/5af2bc 10:55 kf hi Amit 10:55 kf we also delete (DE-576), source of authority number, because it does not work with zebra 10:55 Amit heya galen, kf, slef 10:54 kf better support for $0 would be nice, but our current solution works fine - I just dont want someone to break it :) 10:53 gmcharlt using the $0 or the equivalent only for record import and export 10:53 gmcharlt and kept the linkage info out of band 10:53 gmcharlt slef: you'll have to email him directly - cfouts@liblime.com 10:53 htaccess grrr merge conflicts :( 10:53 gmcharlt kf: yeah - I think we'd be better off if Koha didn't rely on storing the heading-to-auth link in the MARC record 10:52 munin slef: I have not seen cfouts. 10:52 slef @seen cfouts 10:51 kf gmcharlt: yes, and $0 is repeatable, we move 'our' $0 to $9 10:44 gmcharlt slef: nobody here has direct access to download.koha.org, but thus far cfouts has been responsive to requests to put files up 10:42 gmcharlt kf: nicomo: now that MARC21 supports $0 in headings fields to link a heading back to an authority, it will get even more complicate 10:09 kf I tell them to add the PPN to fast adds after cataloging in union catalog is done - so not much real interaction here 10:09 kf we do the nightly imports for new and changed data and the library can download data with z39.50 after cataloging 10:08 kf but I think there is not so much interaction right now 10:08 kf sure 10:06 nicomo and their interactions with Koha locally though 10:06 nicomo I'd be interested in exchanging information about the way we both manage the PICA union systems 10:05 nicomo you're welcome 10:05 kf thx for discussing this with me, nicomo :) 10:04 kf might be because our union catalog migrated from another software some years ago 10:04 kf ah, so I never saw a small number :) 10:04 nicomo kf: and PPNs are left-padded with 0000 10:04 kf not sure it will be understandable 10:04 kf I m trying to describe our problem right now 10:03 kf I just read it 10:02 nicomo kf: I added a comment on Brian's bug page 10:01 nicomo etc 10:01 nicomo modbiblio 10:01 nicomo then use the standard addbiblio 10:01 nicomo the approach we took was basically to do all the required work on data outside of koha 10:00 nicomo not sure 10:00 kf I think the bigger problem might be the import format, so when koha changes we will need to write our own script to do the changes 10:00 nicomo we've all become bilingual human / pica 09:59 nicomo eheh, yes 09:59 kf I just asked because i see a PPN there :) 09:59 nicomo but the basis system used is PICA, that's correct 09:59 nicomo with some modifications for the french market 09:58 nicomo more or less 09:58 kf its pica? 09:58 nicomo I guess one could start from that and adapt it to further Union Catalog environments 09:58 nicomo http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=sudoc;a=summary 09:57 nicomo just not in Koha 09:57 nicomo it's already available actually 09:57 nicomo and it's pretty tailored to the use of the French Union Catalog 09:57 kf yes, but it would help people in 'union catalog environments' 09:57 nicomo it's "massaging" of marc files 09:56 nicomo but I'm not even sure because it's not really a part of Koha 09:56 nicomo maybe 3.4 09:56 nicomo not that I know of 09:56 kf ah ok, will this be part of 3.2? 09:55 nicomo and creates / modifies local records accordingly 09:55 nicomo goes through the biblios with that 09:55 nicomo gets a yaml file with authid XXX = original ID = YYYY 09:54 nicomo we have a script which takes the authorities 1st 09:54 nicomo no problem: yes it is 09:54 kf yes, sorry 09:54 nicomo you mean is it entirely automated? 09:53 kf is it included in cronjobs or doesi t need extra work? 09:53 nicomo so anyway we felt we had to do something a bit more complicated, but "cleaner" in the long run 09:53 kf your solution is better 09:53 kf yes, that would be a problem, but they are not allowed to 09:52 nicomo which might later conflict with an incoming record 09:52 nicomo if you want to create a local authority, it will try to create 160247667+1 09:52 kf the last charater is a check digit, so we delete it in bibliographic data and use the 8digit form as authid 09:52 nicomo and even with 160247667 09:51 nicomo but 00000123X would not 09:51 nicomo this one would work 09:51 kf I think not, or perhaps I have never seen numbers that low: 160247667 is an example 09:51 nicomo I should say: left-added with zeros? 09:50 nicomo is it 0-padded on the left? 09:50 kf 9 characters and the last can be X 09:49 kf we have that g 09:49 nicomo what if the original ID is not an integer? 09:49 nicomo but then Brian's problem is a real one 09:49 nicomo it does sound complicated 09:49 nicomo and at the same time use the "native" koha link to the authid 09:48 kf sounds complicated 09:48 nicomo that way we can both: have the original ids somewhere in both biblio and auth records 09:48 nicomo yes 09:48 kf and you replace the numbers in bibliographic data with koha ids? 09:48 nicomo kf: we then use the authid to write it in the biblio record and make the link 09:48 kf good night chris 09:47 nicomo bye chris 09:47 chris night all 09:47 * chris goes to bed 09:47 nicomo authid:keptid 09:47 nicomo bulkmarcimport returns a list of authids with the corresponding original ids 09:46 kf which number do u use as authnumber then? 09:46 nicomo and still move the id 09:46 kf ah, right 09:46 nicomo kf: yes, we have that too 09:46 kf migration might be not the problem, but cataloging is done in the union catalog and we import data every night 09:46 nicomo keepid 035 09:46 nicomo In a similar situation what we've done is: 09:46 kf I came to this conclusion too - but was not sure 09:45 kf ok 09:45 nicomo as far as I can tell 09:45 nicomo and yes, it might break it 09:45 nicomo unless I'm missing something myself 09:45 nicomo I have to say I don't see the need for the change mentionned 09:44 kf nicomo: I was not sure, if his suggestion will break it 09:43 kf nicomo: we get all our data from our union catalog - the id numbers are in bibiographic and authority data, so just moving around would still make problems - the authid in bibliographic must match the authority id 09:43 slef just sent version control tag snapshots of koha 2.0.1 and 2.0.2 to chris. Is anyone here with access to download.koha.org? 09:40 kf nicomo: sorry, a colleague came to ask me something - reading back now 09:39 nicomo I think (not sure) that what Brian is missing is that possibility to keepids, but move them 09:38 nicomo original 001 to 009; new authid created by Koha in 001 09:38 nicomo in UNIMARC we would use the -keepids option and push the original to 009 or 035 and let Koha generate it's own authid in 035 09:37 nicomo that's what I gather from the bug report at least 09:36 nicomo etc. 09:36 nicomo koha expects an integer and it might not be 09:36 nicomo the number might not be unique 09:36 nicomo but that's dangerous, I guess is what he's saying 09:35 nicomo so one way to do that is to try to reuse the incoming 001 as the koha authid 09:35 nicomo but Koha needs to have it's own ID in the DB and links it to 001 09:34 nicomo it comes with it's own ID in 001 09:34 nicomo kf: when you import an auth record 09:20 chris i cant really parse that either 09:19 chris gah, marc makes my brain hurt 09:17 kf Im not sure I understand what Brian is suggesting 09:16 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4226 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, bulkmarcimport.pl doesn't replace 001 when keepids is not specified 09:16 kf can someone help me with bug 4226? 08:45 kf htaccess: yes, but I think you need to register first 08:43 htaccess ill make a bug for it too (if there isnt one already), can anyone create bugs on buzilla? 08:37 chris sounds good 08:36 htaccess yea, but ill do it as a seperate commit 08:36 chris right, those should definitely be fixed 08:36 htaccess theres a few missing use strict too 08:35 chris hehe 08:34 kf chris: thx (was afk, fighting for a birthday muffin in the kitchen) 08:28 hdl_laptop hi chris 08:28 chris hi hdl_laptop 08:28 chris doh tab fail 08:28 chris hi htaccess 08:22 chris i think that's safe enough, as the worst that can happen is a double up of use warnings, with one being a comment 08:19 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2505 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts 08:19 htaccess hmm, im tempted to just do a oneliner to do s/use strict;/use strict;\n#use warnings; FIXME - Bug 2505/ and then review it carefully vs editing all the files by hand 08:15 chris ill figure it out though :) 08:15 chris haven't been able to figure out whats up 08:14 kf chris: I saw the translation updates - any news about my button problem? 08:14 chris hiya kf 08:13 magnus hiya kf 08:13 magnus should keep me going for some hours... 08:13 kf good mornign 08:13 magnus nice enough, thanks 08:13 chris how was breakfast magnus 08:10 htaccess time to get to work! 08:10 htaccess :) 08:10 chris over halfway at least :) 08:09 htaccess out of 471 08:09 chris quite a few 08:09 htaccess 228 08:09 htaccess $ diff <(find -name '*.pl') <(find . -name '*.pl' -print0 | xargs -0 egrep -l '^use warnings') | grep '<' | wc -l 08:09 htaccess chris: 08:08 CGI342 I have koha-3.004_fixed on debian lenny 08:08 CGI342 catalogue search is not working but z39.50 search is going wel 08:03 chris hehe 08:02 paul_p maybe we could plan a massive move to NZ ? ;-) 08:02 chris its a strange world 08:02 nicomo :-( 08:02 nicomo yeah, France and Australia really seem to be in a competition for that price of runner-up to China 08:01 chris *nod* the scary thing is, others will follow (well australia already has their filter) 08:00 nicomo but still, it's a disturbing instance of demagoguery + ignorance + authoritarianism 07:59 paul_p hi chris & al 07:58 nicomo but having an inefficient government has a nice side-effect : it's going to be 5 years before they put any law into effect, so... 07:58 nicomo we sadly get use to it here in France 07:57 nicomo crazy political babble 07:57 nicomo yeah 07:56 chris ? 07:56 chris nicomo: you've seen this http://www.itworld.com/government/96865/french-net-filtering-plan-moves-forward 07:56 CGI342 is any one? 07:53 htaccess cool 07:52 chris or a branch based on it 07:52 chris that would be good 07:52 chris yup 07:52 htaccess so would it be easier for you doing merges if i commit to my originmaster branch? 07:51 htaccess kk 07:51 chris ahh thats my master, and its a bit butchered at the mo 07:51 chris yup 07:51 htaccess is there any particular reason you are not just using master to track git.koha.org/master? 07:50 htaccess http://github.com/ranginui/koha/commits/originmaster 07:50 htaccess looks like it 07:49 chris lemme check 07:48 htaccess chris: so is 'Updated history' the last commit on origionmaster? 07:48 CGI342 what should I do 07:48 CGI342 I have koha-3.004_fixed on debian lenny 07:47 CGI342 catalogue search is not working but z39.50 search is going well 07:47 chris u'll end up in that file after your patches :) 07:46 chris i had 2 ppl at 102 developers, nicomo and magnus actually :) 07:46 chris ah yeah i made some changes there, to fix that conflict, the version from originmaster is right 07:45 htaccess just merging originmaster 07:45 htaccess CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in docs/history.txt 07:45 htaccess hmm 07:37 chris htaccess: originmaster is the branch that tracks git.koha.org/master 07:36 chris ahh that makes sense 07:34 nicomo ;-) 07:34 htaccess nicomo: hi :) 07:34 nicomo we're 10 people, no Google yet 07:34 chris and biggest in number of patches :) 07:34 htaccess ahh, see "Pulling in upstream changes" 07:34 nicomo there's big and big 07:34 chris (biggest in terms of ppl working fulltime on koha) 07:34 nicomo ah ah 07:34 chris htaccess: nicomo is one of the owners of biblibre, the biggest Koha development/support company 07:34 nicomo hi htaccess 07:33 chris nicomo: meet htaccess he is a fellow catalysta and is interested in doing some code janitorial work 07:33 htaccess 20:18 <@tekkub> http://help.github.com/forking 07:33 htaccess 20:18 <@tekkub> add a remote to their repo and pull 07:33 htaccess i asked on #github too 07:33 chris *snap* 07:33 chris i wonder if there is a doc 07:33 htaccess ill look at the docs 07:32 htaccess yea, git pull on my fork doesnt pull them in 07:32 chris or if you merge or what 07:32 chris im not sure how you rebase your fork 07:32 chris i pushed them earlier today 07:32 htaccess heh 07:32 chris good question 07:32 htaccess chris: how do i get your changes on my fork? 07:17 nicomo you're welcome :-) 07:17 chris heh 07:17 magnus nicomo: thanks for dumping me to 103... ;-) 07:17 chris no worries 07:17 magnus chris: thanks for correcting history.txt ;-) 07:16 nicomo hi magnus 07:16 * nicomo not fully awaken yet 07:16 magnus hi chris and nicomo 07:16 nicomo hi chris 07:16 nicomo oops 07:16 nicomo hi crhis 07:16 chris hi magnus and nicomo 04:48 masonj during the work-day :) 04:48 masonj i realised i missed irc-beeps 04:47 masonj i reluctantly switched from quassel , back to colloguy 04:46 brendan yeah've I got beep functionality (it's bad during skype calls or meetings) 04:46 brendan hi mait 04:46 Amit heya brendan, mason 04:46 masonj ive recently restored 'beep' functionality to my irc client... 04:45 brendan heya masonj 04:45 masonj hiya brendan 04:45 brendan evening #koha 03:22 Amit hi all 01:03 gmcharlt braedon|work: yes - that's fine - creating 952s first works well too 00:53 pianohacker Cool! Most of the credit on that to fredericd, glad someone finally put the pieces together :) 00:52 chris sysprefs now translatable, thanks to you and fredericd 00:52 chris http://translate.koha.org/projects/sysprefs/ 00:52 chris yay for backups 00:52 pianohacker No, not yet. Some very odd voodoo going on in that server, but since the backup is running it will have to wait till tuesday 00:51 pianohacker Hi chris 00:51 chris hi pianohacker, recovered from the crash? 00:50 pianohacker Good evening