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23:56 gmcharlt after you run it the first time to check your dependencies
23:56 gmcharlt ebegin: there should be a better way, but it *is* safe to rerun perl Makefile.PL for real
23:48 brendan ah
23:48 ebegin Before the installation ;)
23:48 brendan how about under > About Koha > perl modules
23:47 ebegin Is there a way to know if all perl modules are installed other that running perl Makefile.PL and answer all questions?
23:46 brendan was just outside and it's nice :)
23:45 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 21.2ï¿½C (3:42 PM PST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 7.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling).
23:45 brendan @wunder 93117
23:00 chris np
22:58 MichaelCalyx OK, thanks for your help, much appreciated :)
22:51 chris you would make that line controlled by a syspref
22:51 chris MichaelCalyx: if you wanted to do it right
22:51 chilts ah right
22:51 MichaelCalyx Fair enough, I was hoping it could be achieved through System Preferences alone but using authnotrequired might be the best approach for now.
22:50 chris i think they only want logged in users to see it chilts
22:50 chilts if it's private to a network, you could use Allow/Deny in Apache (if I understand the problem)
22:48 chris and take out authnotrequired => 1,
22:48 chris you would have to edit the scripts, like opac-main.pl
22:48 chris theres no existing way to do that
22:46 MichaelCalyx or more simply, how can I make the OPAC private?
22:43 MichaelCalyx I was wondering if anyone knew how, or could point me in the right direction, to hide the content of OpacNav from users who aren't logged in?
22:40 chris in somerset
22:40 chris kewstoke
22:40 IrmaCalyx MJRay is close to Bristol ... at the coast... very windy cold place right now ..
22:40 MichaelCalyx Yes, almost 11pm but I am a night owl
22:40 chilts isn't MJRay around there?
22:40 chilts ah, Bath and Bristol PerlMongers is meant to be nice :)
22:39 chris must be pretty late there
22:39 IrmaCalyx Michael is located in Bath UK
22:39 MichaelCalyx :)
22:39 brendan hi MichaelCalyx
22:39 IrmaCalyx MichaelCalyx is one of my IT colleagues/support/saviour
22:39 chris hi Michael
22:39 chilts :)
22:39 chilts hello
22:39 chilts oopse
22:38 chilts hell MichaelCalyx
22:38 MichaelCalyx Hello
22:38 IrmaCalyx May I introduce Michael Hogwood ...
22:38 IrmaCalyx ++
22:38 chilts Catalyst too :)
22:38 chilts 4 floors down from Chris (in Wellington)
22:37 IrmaCalyx chilts..where are you located?
22:37 MichaelCalyx Hi everyone
22:37 IrmaCalyx Walter McGinnis is the lead developer for Kete
22:36 IrmaCalyx How lucky am I to have Walter here in person
22:36 brendan yeah cool :)
22:36 IrmaCalyx thanks
22:36 chilts cool :)
22:36 IrmaCalyx my first Koha client in 2003
22:35 IrmaCalyx Environemntal Earth Sciences : a large private geology consultancy
22:35 chilts EESI?
22:35 IrmaCalyx hi brendan
22:34 chris cool
22:34 IrmaCalyx EESI implementation of Koha + Kete ^.^
22:33 IrmaCalyx We had good progress with Walter yesterday
22:33 brendan heya IrmaCalyx
22:33 chris hi IrmaCalyx
22:32 IrmaCalyx Morning all
22:13 cait :)
22:13 brendan night cait
22:13 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -2.0ï¿½C (11:00 PM CET on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -5.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling).
22:13 cait @wunder Konstanz
22:12 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 5.0ï¿½C (5:01 PM EST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: -12.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 2.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
22:12 chris_n @wunder 28334
22:12 chris_n night
22:12 chris night cait
22:12 cait good night #koha
22:05 schuster Yep fat tuesday today!!! for us Catholics so need to go whoop it up tonight see you all tomorrow - and looking forward to my git pull tonight... Yep I'm getting old...
22:04 sekjal alright, can't see straight anymore. going to call it a night, get some rest, and try again tomorrow. thank you all for your help; I really appreciate it
22:04 wizzyrea_ EEK! I mean, oh.
21:58 cait :)
21:58 cait i m clumsy
21:58 hdl_laptop hehe was just kidding
21:57 cait noooo... I closed the window by accident
21:57 hdl_laptop wizzyrea_: you scared cait away :D
21:46 wizzyrea_ boo
21:46 sekjal thanks, wizzyrea_. it sure is! in fact, factoring in yesterday, I've got a good jump on a terrible week
21:45 wizzyrea_ for you, sekjal. :(
21:45 sekjal but I remember this one... just got to look up how I dealt with it
21:45 wizzyrea_ !! what a terrible day!
21:44 sekjal and I can't pull from git.koha.org, because the restart wiped the information
21:40 sekjal thanks, brendan
21:38 brendan maybe some good karma will help
21:38 brendan sekjal++
21:37 chris heh
21:37 sekjal I think today is just in the mood to hate me.
21:36 sekjal yup
21:36 chris this all worked on your test server eh?
21:35 sekjal also, my serials 'checkin' buttons have disappeared
21:35 sekjal (that was the problem last time I got weird errors)
21:35 sekjal I'm on template = prog, and I'm pretty sure it's current
21:34 chris weird, havent seen that one before
21:34 sekjal yup, branch is selected
21:30 chris (up in the top right)
21:30 chris you have a branch selected?
21:28 sekjal No branchcode argument to new. Should be C4::Calendar->new(branchcode => $branchcode) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Circulation.pm line 2387
21:28 sekjal fun new error when trying to check out:
21:27 brendan nows the best time of the year, here
21:27 munin braedon|work: The current temperature in Tauranga Aerodrome Aws, New Zealand is 20.0ï¿½C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 17, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 19.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
21:27 braedon|work @wunder tauranga nz
21:27 brendan it's spring here so it's pretty wet... loads of flowers and green grass
21:26 schuster brendan but are you drying out at all..
21:26 brendan thinking this is hotter than I remember our summer being last year
21:25 * brendan gets top marks for temp today
21:25 chris we never get super hot, or super cold
21:25 wizzyrea_ WIN
21:25 chris thats pretty average for wellington
21:25 wizzyrea_ not a particularly warm summer
21:25 schuster OWEN Wins the BRR contest!! with that you get 6 inches of snow!
21:24 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0ï¿½C (9:00 AM NZDT on February 17, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
21:24 chris @wunder wellington nz
21:24 wizzyrea_ Brr
21:24 munin wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -0.6ï¿½C (3:21 PM CST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -3.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -1.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Falling).
21:24 wizzyrea_ @wunder 66047
21:24 schuster yes what is it in Kansas? @witchita KS
21:23 munin owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is -2.8ï¿½C (4:16 PM EST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -7.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -7.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon EST Wednesday...
21:23 owen @wunder 45701
21:23 wizzyrea_ ooh, the afternoon weather check
21:23 schuster brrr....
21:23 munin schuster: The current temperature in Stonebrook, Frisco, Texas is 9.1ï¿½C (3:20 PM CST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -6.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 7.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022.2 hPa (Falling).
21:23 schuster @wunder 75035
21:23 cait hdl_laptop: yes
21:22 brendan wow 21.4 can you get close to that chris
21:22 hdl_laptop hi brendan
21:22 brendan hiya hdl_laptop
21:22 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 21.4ï¿½C (1:16 PM PST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 7.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling).
21:22 brendan @wunder 93117
21:20 hdl_laptop cait: still there ?
21:16 schuster Now holding branch is C....
21:16 schuster Homebranch is library A...
21:16 schuster I suspect this hasn't been pulled into head? I am still seeing this as a problem - Library A book is checked out at B - library B checks it in transfer request pops up, book ends up at C and checkin just says not out.
21:14 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3536 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, ASSIGNED, Checked In item requiring transfer does not consistently trigger transfer prompt
21:14 schuster bug 3536
21:06 chris_n bbl
21:05 cait I noticed at work and gmcharlt sait I should let you know :)
21:04 cait hi chris and thank you
21:03 chris cait: pootle should be back now
20:51 chris no problemo
20:51 sekjal chris: will do. Thank you so much for your assistance
20:51 chris you dont want that to fill up
20:51 chris just watch your /tmp
20:51 chris yep
20:51 sekjal my colleague is working on fixing the sessions table, but he's also getting bombarded with other work right now, so I'm glad we have a temporary fix
20:50 sekjal once we switched off to tmp files, things improved
20:48 chris it was the sessions table eh?
20:47 sekjal alright, our Koha is back. just have a minor URL issue, but that's a convenience, not crucial
20:43 wizzyrea_ there
20:43 wizzyrea_ plus, our versions are pretty close
20:43 wizzyrea_ and I'm wondering if it's related
20:43 wizzyrea_ the reason I ask you schuster, is because you've had that problem with super busy server where items look checked in but actually aren't
20:43 wizzyrea_ oh I said something to you but you were not in channel lol
20:40 schuster whats wrong homer?
20:39 wizzyrea_ doh
20:38 wizzyrea_ plus, our versions are pretty close
20:38 wizzyrea_ and I'm wondering if it's related
20:38 wizzyrea_ the reason I ask you schuster, is because you've had that problem with super busy server where items look checked in but actually aren't
20:35 wizzyrea_ yes, in fact the dvd from atchison above is an incorrect (probably typo) barcode
20:31 schuster Always freaks out the librarian that they can use the scanner in something other than Koha.
20:31 schuster I also have them SCAN the barcode into the email because sometimes the scanner shows something different than what is printed.
20:29 schuster Does atchison seem to have a LOT of ILL? those leading zeros concern me - they shouldn't but...
20:27 wizzyrea_ we usually make our libraries rebarcode if they don't have 13-15 digit barcodes
20:27 chris just until your session table is fixed
20:27 schuster Wow that is really off. -
20:27 chris sekjal: you could toggle that to temporary files
20:26 wizzyrea_ that's a good idea, it's probably just a mis-read
20:26 chris sekjal: SessionStorage is the syspref
20:26 schuster What I would suggest wizzyrea - is next time they see that to do the back button to the input prompt and see what it says...???
20:26 wizzyrea_ I don't see anyting common about those barcodes
20:26 chris so that ppl can still use koha while you are fixing the session table
20:26 wizzyrea_ Today at 2:35 pm was checking out a book Evidence (Barcode 3HFPL00026719K) to (Horton City Patron). What came up on her record was a A Bright Shining Lie, a DVD in Atchison (Barcode 00032000009334). Called Atchison and had them check in the item by the barcorde to get it off patron's checkout list.
20:25 chris (while you do that)
20:25 chris you can also switch it to use files in the meantime
20:25 sekjal chris: thanks! I'll give that a whirl
20:25 chris will give you an empty sessions table
20:25 schuster We did have a problem when a vendor sent us some barcodes 1, 2, 3 etc... and when you typed in 1 it pulled up a title.
20:24 chris mysql -uroot -p koha < sessions.sql
20:24 wizzyrea_ afaik all barcodes are unique
20:24 schuster Since you have merged several locations you are sure ALL barcodes are unique... Were they all the same length?
20:24 wizzyrea_ "then I scanned it again and it brought up Hamlet"
20:24 chris mysqldump -uroot -p koha --no-data --add-drop-table sessions > sessions.sql
20:24 wizzyrea_ "i scanned Hamlet and it gave me the Bucket List DVD" for example
20:23 wizzyrea_ well I only have anecdotal reports
20:23 chris sekjal: there are some indexes on it, wont help with a count tho
20:23 schuster drop scares me...
20:23 schuster I have had several times where the scanner did a miss read.
20:23 chris drop and recreate
20:23 schuster wizzyrea - are you sure it scaned what you thought it did?
20:23 chris truncate will take hours
20:22 chris dont truncate
20:22 schuster I truncate and optimize.
20:22 jdavidb Thanks, schuster! :)
20:22 sekjal chris: what indexes are on it? we can't even get that query to come back quickly?
20:22 wizzyrea_ but the next time you scan it, it's correct
20:22 wizzyrea_ schuster: do you ever have a problem where you scan an item and something totally different comes up
20:21 schuster There he is - I wanted to make sure you got credit for it!
20:21 chris and recreate it
20:21 chris drop the table
20:21 chris is mysqldump that table --no-data
20:21 jdavidb That one is in HEAD, I think, schuster.
20:21 owen chris_n: We do (email notices)
20:21 chris what i would do, (because a truncate will take ages)
20:21 schuster chris in my production system the transferlog line is commented out in 3.0
20:21 chris right
20:21 sekjal s/could/couldn't/
20:21 chris_n owen: so you all do not send notices to staff?
20:20 schuster I believe jdavidb has done a patch to be built as a cron to fix that in the future.
20:20 sekjal could count them in a timely fashion, my fellow technician reported
20:20 chris_n time to truncate
20:20 chris how many rows are in the sessions table?
20:20 schuster means you have a VERY large Sessions table - which starts to slow down response times.
20:20 chris_n ouch
20:20 chris it should be in the order of milliseconds
20:20 chris that is totally excessive
20:19 sekjal is it normal to take 22 minutes to check the sessions table in the koha db? that strikes me as excessive
20:19 owen-away The staff are the worst! They've all got overdues, myself included.
20:19 schuster chris can you expound on what this means? (if the transferlog line is commented out in your koha-httpd.conf consider uncommenting them)
20:19 chris it is for a lot of libraries
20:19 chris_n is it typical to not send overdue notices to library staff?
20:17 chris_n lol
20:17 gmcharlt ;)
20:17 gmcharlt chris_n: and since when did you start working for Big Blue?
20:17 chris_n < This page intentionally left blank. >
20:17 * chris_n agrees...
20:16 chris yeah
20:16 gmcharlt just slightly confusing, perhaps, need to look up to scan the patorn barcode in global search box
20:16 chris_n chris: so a blank page with only the checkout in the header is what is expected?
20:16 chris seems ok here
20:15 gmcharlt gadzooks
20:14 chris ill look
20:14 chris_n latest HEAD, I should add
20:14 chris_n can anyone confirm that the Check Out link on circulation-home.pl is incorrect?
20:07 * chris_n accidentally spams himself with overdue notices
20:05 chris (if the transferlog line is commented out in your koha-httpd.conf consider uncommenting them)
20:05 sekjal chris: I think I checked those, but I'm a little fuzzy right now. ::eats::
20:04 sekjal should consider upping that, yes
20:04 chris what about the 2 koha access logs?
20:04 sekjal currently running 100 connections, which is the default max, as I recall
20:04 sekjal access.log is empty
20:00 chris sekjal: and it might be worth upping the max connections available in apache
20:00 chris_n Jo even
20:00 chris_n hi chris, DebJo
19:59 brendan morning jo chris
19:58 DebJo Morning all
19:58 chris sekjal: have you checked the access logs? could it be dns?
19:42 sekjal looking at my mysql process list shows a done of queries on teh sessions table
19:38 sekjal probably Circ or TS trying to get some work done today
19:38 sekjal nope, can't find any firewall logs. the errors I'm finding are indicating that the clients reporting the errors are staff machines.
19:30 sekjal will see if I can find firewall logs
19:30 chris_n or maybe a spider gone mad?
19:29 chris_n that too
19:29 rhcl s/you/your
19:29 chris_n firewall logs
19:29 rhcl disconnect you lan cable and see what happens
19:28 sekjal any good way to check on that?
19:27 chris_n sekjal: maybe it's some sort of ddos attack?
19:26 sekjal do I just need to be patient?
19:25 sekjal rebooted my Ubuntu Koha server, and everything worked fine for about 30 seconds. now everything is lagging out until I get "too many connection" errors
19:25 rhcl ping wizzyrea
19:21 brendan ;)
19:20 jdavidb :/
19:20 munin jdavidb: PTFS has neutral karma.
19:20 jdavidb @karma PTFS
19:17 * jwagner wants to make some witty comment about sauce for the goose, but I think I'll refrain.....
19:17 jdavidb owen, that's just icky.
19:17 owen-away Sorry jdavidb, for all three it's gonna have to be Foie Gras
19:17 munin brendan: Karma for "bywater" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5.
19:17 brendan @karma bywater
19:17 brendan :)
19:16 munin brendan: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 15 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 15.
19:16 brendan @karma brendan
19:15 jdavidb hmmmmm.
19:14 jwagner Well, we could hit two out of three. Depending on what you put IN the food, of course :-)
19:14 jdavidb All the best things in life are illegal, immoral, or fattening. Or some combination.
19:13 jwagner There's probably something immoral about that :-(
19:13 jdavidb hmmmm...
19:13 jwagner Will trade karma for food. Hmmmmm.
19:12 * jwagner says cookies might help. Or maybe that French toast we were talking about this morning :-)
19:12 jdavidb Gotta figure out what I can do different--year and a half of being here, and I've only got 11. Cookies, maybe?
19:11 jdavidb I knew that without asking munin, nengard.
19:11 munin jwagner: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 18 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 18.
19:11 jwagner @karma jwagner
19:11 nengard sorry - just had to say it :)
19:10 nengard woo hoo I'm cooler than jdavidb :) hehe
19:10 jdavidb woot!
19:10 munin nengard: Karma for "nengard" has been increased 78 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 78.
19:10 nengard @karma nengard
19:10 nengard oo cool - what's my karma?
19:10 jdavidb :)
19:10 munin jdavidb: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 11 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 11.
19:10 jdavidb @karma jdavidb
19:08 jdavidb jwagner++
19:08 jdavidb nevermind...found it in the IRC logs from last week, while I was away..
19:04 jdavidb ....but CPAN has no clue what that is...
19:03 jdavidb Makefile.PL: Warning: prerequisite Graphics::Magick not found.
19:03 jdavidb Okay, here's a new one on me...brand-new install, from HEAD as of about 10 minutes ago, on freshly-upgraded Lenny server...perl Makefile.PL is giving me this:
19:00 sekjal getting too many connections, and I'm not sure why
18:59 nengard :)
18:59 jwagner I'll let you create the bug report then.
18:59 nengard i'll write up a report for that too
18:59 nengard jwagner - yes it is a bug - a big one :(
18:58 sekjal cabillman: seem to have fixed that problem, found a new one.
18:58 * jwagner muses "wasn't it just yesterday when somebody was marvelling that we'd hit bug number 4000?"
18:58 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4199 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain@biblibre.com, NEW, no way to print routing list on serial receive
18:58 nengard jwagner - was writing up bug 4199 -- will test now
18:58 jwagner If so, there needs to be a bug report on it (if there isn't one already)
18:57 jwagner nengard, can you replicate the problem I had with searching for a patron to add? You're on a more up-to-date 3.2 version than I am.
18:57 * jwagner hands jdavidb an order of fries
18:56 jdavidb yis!
18:56 jwagner You want fries with that, jdavidb?
18:54 * jdavidb just heard his father's voice in his head, saying, "If you want simple, go work at McDonalds."
18:53 jdavidb *simple*, jwagner? you're in the wrong business.
18:53 jwagner I think there should be a nice simple "print routing list" link on the sidebar menu to begin with.
18:52 jwagner If you select from the list of patrons that the 3.2 screen presents, it works OK, but not if you search for a patron.
18:51 jwagner nengard, I just tried it on a 3.2 setup and in .061. In .061, when you clicked to add someone, it did the lookup and then added it back in the original screen. In 3.2 it seems to do the lookup and add it in the new popup screen; if you close that one you lose the add.
18:49 nengard but I have a bone to pick with the design which needs work so that searching for a print button isn't so hard
18:49 nengard OH WAIT - I FOUND IT
18:48 nengard chris - you did some serials patches - did you remove it for a reason?
18:48 nengard jwagner - nope - seems to have gone away
18:47 jwagner nengard, my bad, you can print a routing slip under the older code (we're running .061) by editing a routing slip, adding or deleting someone, then saving. Then there's the option to Preview Routing Slip which allows you to print it. That's not present in the 3.2 code?
18:47 cabillman I have no idea why it stopped working for me either...
18:47 cabillman sekjal: were you able to resolve your issue? I had the same problem until I fixed my sites-enabled/koha
18:40 nengard if youcan't print it then how do you get the routing list when you receive a serial?
18:40 nengard you used to be able to
18:40 jwagner nengard, I don't think you can.
18:40 nengard how do i print a routing list?
18:39 nengard got a serials question
18:10 sekjal looking at my other installation's configuration files
18:01 Ropuch It's ok
17:59 sekjal is /etc/apache2/httpd.conf supposed to be empty?
17:57 sekjal which didn't seem to change when I performed the upgrade
17:57 sekjal Ropuch: it exists, and is properly pointing to my koha-httpd.conf file
17:56 Ropuch sekjal: look at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha
17:54 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.1ï¿½C (9:50 AM PST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 9.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising).
17:54 brendan @wunder 93117
17:53 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.1ï¿½C (9:50 AM PST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 9.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising).
17:53 brendan @wunder 93117
17:51 sekjal getting a lot of "file does not exist: /htdocs" in apache2 error.log
17:49 Ropuch Anything in logs? (apache/koha)?
17:48 sekjal yes
17:47 Ropuch Is apache running?
17:47 sekjal any pointers?
17:47 sekjal didn't think I'd changed anything sufficient to break this, but apparently so
17:47 sekjal "the requested URL / was not found on this server"
17:47 sekjal performed an upgrade from 3.0.3 to 3.0.5 (production installation), then rebooted my Ubuntu server. When it comes back up, it can't Koha
17:08 jwagner It seemed like it SHOULD do that anyway. Have to figure out exactly what she did & see if I can reproduce it. But at least I'm on the right track.
17:08 gmcharlt no, shouldn't have to - unless they added a new authority framework or did something screwey, Koha hands the 942$a transparently
17:05 jwagner If someone is editing or hand-creating an authority record, they need to fill in the codes from that page?
17:05 jwagner And those are the entries under Home ï¿½ Administration ï¿½ Authority Types ?
17:04 gmcharlt jwagner: 942$a indeed stores the authority type
17:03 kf time to catch my bus - bye #koha, bbl
17:00 jwagner The one authority record she referenced seemed to have the UNIF_TITLE in it; not sure if she added it or it got added automatically. As I said, I need to get more info from her.
16:58 kf my first thought too
16:58 jwagner It looks like that 942 setting in the authority record refers to the type of authority it is -- PERSO_NAME, UNIF_TITLE, etc. Is that correct?
16:57 jwagner Hope someone is on who understands authority records in Koha. One of my people is saying that when editing an authority record the system says it can't save because field 942 (Koha auth type) is empty. I need to get more info from the user, but is there a configuration change that should be done?
16:52 ebegin i see. thanks galen
16:52 gmcharlt plugin exists, but needs to be updated as it currently uses a Google search API that is no longer supported
16:51 gmcharlt ebegin: not at the moment
16:44 ebegin does munin support google search? If so, what is the correct syntax?
16:41 schuster thanks just checking.
16:41 gmcharlt if you do git fetch + git rebase , no need to do git pull
16:38 schuster then skip the git pull? or still do that? because the fetch will update everything already right?
16:37 gmcharlt just do; cd kohaclone; git fetch; git rebase origin
16:36 schuster when is it necessary to do the rebase ?
16:35 gmcharlt yep
16:35 schuster So tonight I want to get all the patches to my "test" 3.2 instance - so all I have to do is cd to the kohaclone directory and do git pull and it will update... Just checking.
16:31 Ropuch Having terminal filled with red instead of green was refreshing ;>
16:29 schuster Now if I can get my brain to remember it!
16:27 munin gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2930 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Put other name on CKO screen
16:27 gmcharlt @bug 2930
16:27 gmcharlt viz
16:27 gmcharlt do the @ form only if you just give the bug number
16:27 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2930 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Put other name on CKO screen
16:27 gmcharlt bug 2930 - I am unable to email this directly to patches using git but the patch is attached to the bug. I didn't see it "accepted yet" so was just "reminding".
16:27 gmcharlt schuster: you can just do
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=reminding could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=just could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=was could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
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16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=accepted could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=it could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=see could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=didn%27t could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=I could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=bug could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=the could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=to could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=attached could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=is could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=patch could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=the could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=but could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=git could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=using could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=patches could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 schuster Here I go again... dang
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=to could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=directly could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=this could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=email could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=to could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=unable could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=am could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:26 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=I could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:25 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=- could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
16:25 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2930 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Put other name on CKO screen
16:25 schuster @bug 2930 - I am unable to email this directly to patches using git but the patch is attached to the bug. I didn't see it "accepted yet" so was just "reminding".
16:20 * owen is thrilled that gmcharlt is going to get to keep working on Koha
16:20 kf me too
16:18 schuster likes gmcharlt's projects ... :)
16:18 kf gmcharlt: I m sorry I can just say its something we would really like - not able to fund it or do it myself right now :(
16:16 gmcharlt a project I'll consider working on for 3.4
16:16 gmcharlt kf: yep, I understand - needs work to get it to work
16:16 kf chris_n++ #for fine amounts in overdue notices
16:12 kf gmcharlt: we miss the option to search for i.e. the pseudonym and just find everything from the author published under various names without using authority search (its not really user friendly).
16:10 kf gmcharlt: not sure I understand it.
16:09 gmcharlt but if you want see / see also references, you gotta have authority records
16:09 gmcharlt including the thesarus when indexing bib headings would make it possible to do a headings browse that didn't *require* authority records
16:09 gmcharlt kf: not as such
16:08 kf gmcharlt: just saw your mail about thesauruses - would 'including the thesaurus in the bib headings indexes' mean that you could search for see also / see references without using authority search?
16:06 hilongo hello all :)
16:05 * chris_n thinks you can't make much progress that way :-)
16:05 rhcl worked the second time, and I don't see anything in bugs, so not to worry about?
16:04 rhcl Koha 3.00.04.019 -- Can't call method "progress" on an undefined value at .... when trying to enter (stage) Marc records order
16:03 schuster Yakity Yak don't talk back...
15:56 owen Interesting...so much for YakPak.
15:55 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in Mankato, Minnesota is -9.0ï¿½C (9:35 AM CST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -14.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -17.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
15:55 moodaepo @wunder 56001
15:51 paul_p schuster: it's munin that should run to the corner and hide !!!
15:46 munin ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -2.0ï¿½C (10:00 AM EST on February 16, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -6.0ï¿½C. Windchill: -2.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling).
15:46 ebegin @wunder montreal, quebec
15:45 schuster Leave it to me... odd...
15:44 gmcharlt that was odd
15:42 munin gmcharlt: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 02:58 PM, September 17, 2009)
15:42 gmcharlt @quote random
15:41 nengard hehe
15:41 schuster goes to corner and hides.
15:41 nengard wow
15:41 schuster It's done now.
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4151 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Document new perl modules for those upgrading
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=%40bug could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=Ubuntu could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 nengard gmcharlt around? can you kill munin?
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=were could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=they could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=but could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=bugs could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=of could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=couple could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=a could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=in could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=put could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=Liz could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=see could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=I could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=this could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=done could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=already could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=someone could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=has could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=or could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=patch could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=a could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 nengard how do you kill munin?
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=send could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=and could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=document could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=debian-lenny could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=INSTALL could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=the could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=edit could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=should could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=I could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=- could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 nengard uh oh!!!
15:40 schuster Sorry drat
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2 normal, P2, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, RESOLVED FIXED, Need appropriate graphic for admin scripts
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3 normal, P2, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, RESOLVED FIXED, mod_env module checking in installer.pl
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=for could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=documentation could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=the could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=into could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=these could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=get could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=to could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=so could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=- could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:40 munin schuster: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4146 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, dependancies needed for installation
15:40 schuster @Bug 4146 - so to get these into the documentation for 3.2 - I should edit the INSTALL.debian-lenny document and send a patch? or has someone already done this? I see Liz put in a couple of bugs but they were Ubuntu? @bug 4151
15:33 biglego cool thanks schuster that worked
15:29 jwagner schuster++
15:29 gmcharlt schuster: thus do you gain true knowledge, grasshopper
15:27 schuster AMAZING I actually had the answer to a technical question! Only because I lived it.
15:25 gmcharlt biglego: schuster has it
15:24 schuster I had to do the cpan MODULE::Install - to get the rest of it to work I believe.
15:14 biglego koha@ubuntu:~/PDF-API2-Simple-1.1.4$
15:14 biglego BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./Makefile.PL line 1.
15:14 biglego Can't locate inc/Module/Install.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./Makefile.PL line 1.
15:14 biglego sudo perl ./Makefile.PL
15:13 chris_n maybe cd into the source directory and do 'perl Makefile.PL && make && make test' to see more clues as to what's wrong
15:12 chris_n biglego: I seem to remember issues with that module
15:11 biglego ubuntu 9.10 installing via git
15:10 biglego PDF::API2::Simple is giving me fits trying to install won't force any ideas?
15:10 hdl_laptop or by the end of the week
15:10 hdl_laptop shoudl be ok tomorrow
15:09 gmcharlt ok
15:09 hdl_laptop still working on them
15:08 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: the bugfixes we discussed a few days ago - are they ready for me to pull?
15:06 biglego morning everyone
15:00 hdl_laptop I wanted to check taht out since I mostly use git
15:00 hdl_laptop yes
15:00 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: which tarball? 3.2 alpha is up
14:59 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: am I right to think that clay uploaded the tarball on download.koha.org ?
14:53 jdavidb The "you are here" part is what had me stumped, without using named-workstations, how to tell which OPAC they're on, or even if they're inside the library or not. We wanted this business to work on the iphone doodad I was also tinkering with at the time.
14:52 collum Yep. That would be nice for kids and adults.
14:50 jdavidb I was hacking on something with SD's to highlight a map of the library with the right range, as well as showing the call number, when I left there.
14:50 collum I'm thinking RFID tags with GPS. :)
14:49 jdavidb (or cooler yet--sort on availability, so available items bubble to the top!)
14:48 jdavidb change the "available" to a thumbs-up icon, anything else to thumbs-down?
14:48 collum There's got to be a better way to express availability.
14:48 collum that says your item is at the Collin Creek location, Juvenile Non-Fiction, J597.45 Foo, Available
14:48 collum My contention with kid's catalogs is that you click on 16 icons to get to a screen
14:37 schuster Feed press releases to Marshall Breeding as well - great exposure to the library community there.
14:36 chris_n perhaps we could also have the most recent post highlighted in a small section in the right-hand sidebar
14:35 chris_n nengard: good idea
14:35 nengard chris_n Nate my suggestion is a category for Press and then a link to Press at the top so that the press doesn't overwhelm the rest of the content on the site - which I'll say on list if it appears there :)
14:34 Nate good call! will do
14:34 chris_n Nate: you could also run an opinion post by the list as well
14:32 jwagner We had a _LOT_ of world-class talent; it was humbling to be working around these folks. But some of them needed crossing guards to get across the street!
14:32 Nate Thanks chris_n. I think we are going to actually hold off on posting on the new site for now and maybe we will bring it up at the next IRC meeting and see what the general consensus is.
14:31 jdavidb *nod.* I know some brilliant engineers of several sorts, who have trouble in very simple social situations. Come to think of it, I have trouble with simple social situations, and I'm *not* a brilliant engineer.
14:29 jwagner Mind you, some of them probably could have USED the cute little icons. There appears to be an inverse relationship in some people between intellectual ability and real-world functional skills.
14:29 chris_n Nate: I don't have a problem with it... they are posted on koha.org so why not koha-community.org as well
14:29 * jdavidb groans, remembering meetings of ALC's public-services committee, when 5 heads of public services/reference would bicker over the tiniest details of the catalog appearance.
14:28 jwagner Nope. Good old text was enuf for the serious research types at NASA :-)
14:27 jdavidb jwagner: I was thinking of mission icons to pull stuff based on that mission, for instance. Or planet icons for planetary-science info.
14:27 schuster One does what the user needs... ;)
14:26 schuster I'm going to write up my needs and send them to the Evergreen folks for consideration and to Owen to ponder.
14:26 jwagner We did use some pre-defined searches on various technical subject areas at NASA. But I scorn cute icons!
14:26 schuster Yes I was looking to possibly subcontract some of the backend work to Owen once we had a proof of concept and what I wanted it to do... With the evergreen thing though it may get delayed a little.
14:25 * jdavidb tries to imagine jwagner using that at NASA, back-when. Yeah, a couple of neat ideas there..
14:25 jdavidb Brilliant!
14:25 schuster They had changed all the icons to different LAW topics that did searches then for their Lawyers as they didn't know where to start.
14:25 jdavidb One of Owen's clones should be able to hack that up right quick, schuster, once you get him interested in the idea. ;-)
14:24 schuster Funny story... While working with CODI(customers of Dynix Inc users group) someone from a corporate library stood up and said they loved kids catalog.
14:22 jdavidb schuster: such a construct might be useful in the public-library context, as well, for serving folks with text-cognitive problems (find the music you like?) or visually impaired, with *big* icons.
14:22 Nate What are everyone's feelings about press releases being posted on the new koha-community.org site?
14:21 schuster I was talking with Owen just last week about this...
14:21 jdavidb Hi, Nate. :)
14:21 Nate Good Morning schuster, jdavidb, owen, gmcharlt, jwagner, and everyone else!
14:21 schuster The trick is a generic template that all 47 locations use, and getting the location dynamically without loging in.
14:20 jdavidb Right; the campus-level adminning of it would be nice, but that would be hairy to set up.
14:20 schuster I would expect that an admin such as myself could edit it add/remove change stuff.
14:20 jdavidb I would think a Koha implementation should be easy enough to limit-by-location, and possibly also limit-by-anything-Zebra-can-do.
14:20 schuster I don't know that I want to get that far as campus level builds, but I would love to have at least a basic one for k-3 curriculum and general interest needs.
14:19 schuster What we had was a bit more of a drill down that had keyword searches to it, but it also limited to the location of the student.
14:18 jdavidb Follett Destiny has something like that too, and LRC specialists at each campus can build new ones for their campus, based on what the teachers are doin'. Very nifty.
14:17 jdavidb Their method not-very-cleverly links the pic icons to bald keyword searches.
14:17 schuster yes thank you jdavidb - I just pulled a couple off the top of my head - we had that with Horizon and our librarians in the elementary like it as those kids can't spell or type yet.
14:16 jdavidb Schuster: SD Unicorn/Symphony has something kinda like that--public library example: http://alc.alc.org/uhtbin/cgisirsi.exe/0/APL-MAIN/0/1/774/X/BLASTOFF
14:16 schuster Well yes I agree on the awfulness of it, but it serves a purpose.
14:16 owen I don't know why anyone would think that's kid-friendly.
14:16 owen You have to click a link that says "type search," type something to search for, and then click another button to choose what kind of search?
14:15 owen__ I don't want to shoot you schuster but I do want to shoot that TLC kids catalog. Awful, awful awful.
14:14 schuster Trying to open doors - librarians as collaborators... ;)
14:13 schuster Don't shoot me about the Kids Catalog post I just did to the lists, just exploring options!
14:04 jdavidb If she can get a job making more than I do, and pays the rent, she can make the rules, and I'll retire n be a house-parent, or move out and get mah own place.
14:04 gmcharlt hi paul_p
14:03 * jdavidb thinks "housework" is what kids are for. His teenager disagrees, but since I pay the rent, and we run on the rules of Twain's "Curious Republic of Gondour", I make the rules.
14:03 jwagner Ah. Depends on whether you ask jdavidb or the Evil Minion.
14:02 owen__ The training kids for housework!
14:02 jwagner The cloning, or the silicon panels?
14:02 owen__ I'll check with jdavidb to see how well that's likely to pan out
14:01 jwagner owen__, that's a terrible waste of talent! Start training those kids on housework :-)
14:00 owen__ Sorry jwagner, I'd put them all to work cleaning my house.
14:00 * jwagner just asked jdavidb if using solr meant having to stick silicon panels on top the servers. He said No.
14:00 jdavidb Mornin, paul_p; thanks for the karma! :)
14:00 jwagner Oh, I was hoping you'd succeeded in cloning yourself. That way we'd have more owens to work on OPAC issues.
13:59 paul_p is human cloning permitted in US ? :D
13:59 owen__ VirtualBox upgrade is making my connection go in and out
13:59 jwagner We have replicating owens!
13:58 paul_p owen: the problem with mySQL was the DB scheme at 1st (and the marc_word table), not necessary mySQL itself
13:57 owen I have no love for the quirks of working with Zebra, but damn it sure is better than using MySQL was.
13:56 nengard :)
13:56 nengard zebra--
13:56 jwagner Bonjour paul_p
13:56 nengard solr++
13:56 owen Good afternoon Europe!
13:56 paul_p owen, solr instead of zebra
13:56 nengard good afternoon france!!
13:55 paul_p good morning usa ! ( nengard, jdavidb, jwagner, gmcharlt, chris_n, owen )
13:55 owen solr over zebra?
13:55 paul_p jdavidb++ (for switching to solr, see twitter)
13:45 kf nengard: thx!
13:44 kf cant write a script
13:44 nengard kf - http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2010-February/005570.html
13:43 kf ah
13:43 kf I cant and the tables looked a bit complicated
13:43 nengard kf - chris_n submitted it as a 3.4 patch - I think...
13:43 jdavidb I've done it by hand a couple of times; wouldn't be hard to script, I shouldn't think, kf.
13:42 kf I heard of a script to bulk edit patron message settings - is this alrady available? or has someone the sql ready?
13:42 jdavidb I'm good with that, jwagner. :)
13:42 jwagner Ah. Missed that connection. How about a meld of cultures and taste buds, and we get French toast instead?
13:42 kf yum :)
13:42 * jdavidb makes an extra stack for kf.
13:41 jdavidb Today, New Orleans is partying like there is no tomorrow; more serious-minded folk may recall that today is Shrove Tuesday, and eat pancakes.
13:41 nengard jwagner - oo - waffles - I have leftover homemade waffles that I put in the freezer - i think I'll have that for breakfast :)
13:41 kf ;)
13:41 kf ooh :(
13:40 jwagner Oh, I'll _eat_ the pancakes. I was just expressing a preference :-)
13:38 kf suggests to eat jwagners pancaces too ;)
13:37 * jwagner would prefer waffles :-)
13:37 * jdavidb passes out plates of pancakes.
13:37 gmcharlt hi jdavidb
13:35 jdavidb Mornin', #koha
13:08 munin kf: The operation succeeded.
13:08 kf @later tell chris Hi chris, pootle seems to be down - can you take a look at it?
13:08 kf goo dmorning jwagner and chris_n
13:04 jwagner Good morning (I think)
13:02 chris_n g'morning #koha
12:59 kf gmcharlt: thx
12:51 hdl_laptop hi gmcharlt
12:31 gmcharlt kf: it's @later tell ..
11:51 kf mah
11:50 munin kf: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "chris" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
11:50 kf @later chris Hi chris, pootle seems to be down - can you take a look at it?
11:49 gmcharlt better let chris now
11:49 gmcharlt kf: I can't get to it either
11:39 kf oh, is pootle down?
11:29 kf hi gmcharlt
11:18 gmcharlt hi hdl_laptop
11:18 gmcharlt indeed it is
11:18 magnus good time of the day, gmcharlt
11:17 gmcharlt greeatings #koha
11:10 hdl_laptop thanks
11:10 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4194 normal, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Syspref ILS-DI is missing
11:10 magnus bug 4194
11:09 magnus thanks
11:08 hdl_laptop henridamien at koha dash fr dot org
11:08 magnus hdl_laptop: what e-mail should i assign to?
11:02 magnus ok, will do
10:54 hdl_laptop file that and assign to me please
10:54 hdl_laptop then bug
10:53 magnus hm, i couldn't find it in installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql either: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql;h=3647715bac4655dc9eb6549ceb39b6c2a36493bc;hb=HEAD
10:51 hdl_laptop magnus: you should ahve them
10:47 magnus ils-di.pl, even
10:46 magnus so, i thought i'd have a play with ils-di on my HEAD installation last night, but it seems ils.di.pl looks for a syspref called ILS-DI, which isn't found in my install - is that a bug or a feature?
09:17 francharb ;)
08:16 kf hi Ropuch
08:16 Ropuch Hello kf [;
08:16 kf good morning #koha
07:12 chris hi Ropuch
06:53 Ropuch Morning #koha
05:47 Amit heya Genji, wajasu
03:34 Amit heya brendan
03:34 brendan hi amit
03:01 chris_n g'night #koha
00:52 chris cool
00:51 russ kohacon10 meeting minutes are up on the wiki http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:kohacon2010:meetingminutes16feb#feb_16
00:30 * collum_ is calling it a day. See ya #koha
00:26 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 5.0ï¿½C (7:01 PM EST on February 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0ï¿½C. Windchill: 2.0ï¿½C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling).
00:26 chris_n @wunder 28334
00:16 chris back