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23:40 chris_n bbl
23:24 gmcharlt ok, email sent
23:21 hdl_laptop +1
23:21 collum_ +1 for frederic
23:20 chris_n +1 # for frederic
23:19 brendan "what if the fire-department ran koha"
23:19 brendan gmcharlt -> that felt like one of those nextel commercials; the ones where "what if the fire-department ran court"
23:16 brendan sounds good to me
23:16 brendan I think that takes it :)
23:16 gmcharlt I'll send an email to the lists about this, and if anybody feels a strong desire to -1, they can do so via email
23:16 brendan heh
23:16 brendan +1
23:16 gmcharlt +1
23:15 * brendan second's frederic
23:15 gmcharlt cool
23:15 gmcharlt yeah, frederic is the sole candiate now
23:15 brendan I'll offer my services as a backup if needed :)
23:14 brendan I think there is only one person who's up for it
23:14 brendan well can't we hold it now?
23:13 chris whoops
23:13 chris heh
23:13 brendan +1
23:13 * gmcharlt just realized that we forgot to hold the vote for Translation Manager :)
22:56 imp hmm, something is wrong, norway is a little bit warmer ;)
22:56 munin imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is -5.0�C (11:20 PM CET on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
22:56 imp @wunder hannover germany
22:56 munin imp: Error: No such location could be found.
22:56 imp @wunder hannover de
22:34 munin braedon|work: The current temperature in Tauranga Aerodrome Aws, New Zealand is 23.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 11, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
22:34 braedon|work @wunder tauranga nz
22:29 munin magnus_away: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0�C (10:50 PM CET on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -11.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
22:29 magnus_away @wunder bodo, norway
22:25 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 2.0�C (5:01 PM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.64 in 1004 hPa (Rising). High Wind Warning in effect until 9 PM EST this evening...
22:25 chris_n @wunder 28334
22:20 brendan you should all come here --> absolutely amazing outside
22:19 Jo pooring down here to
22:19 chilts our lovely summer :)
22:18 brendan :)
22:18 brendan oooh barely...
22:18 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on February 11, 2010). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
22:18 chris @wunder wellington nz
22:17 chris doubt it, its raining today
22:17 brendan chris ? can you beat me :)
22:17 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.8�C (2:12 PM PST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
22:17 brendan @wunder 93117
22:15 brendan ah finally got a little bit of time free (will do a little log reading - then some bug squashing)
22:12 * chris_n has vim automatically remove whitespaces on save
22:12 gmcharlt chris_n: thanks
22:11 chris_n gmcharlt: I'll resubmit tomorrow
21:54 schuster well looks like that will be a tomorrow job. I'll also edit and send the check-url.pl - tomorrow. How exciting!!!
21:53 schuster gmcharlt - just sent my patch for Othername on cko - let me know if you get it. Now I will go and attempt to attach it to bugzilla.
21:23 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
21:23 gmcharlt @later tell chris_n regarding patch for 4102 - did you run it through perltidy? if so, I'd prefer that whitespace-only patches be separate from ones that change functionality or fix bugs
21:22 braedon|work so.. how is the bug squashing going all? does someone have a counter or something?
21:20 braedon|work seriously considered taking it to work a few times
21:19 braedon|work fine at home on my phenom II x4 955 :)
21:17 braedon|work not the best
21:17 braedon|work this is a p4 pc
21:17 braedon|work i don't know how i lived without multicore cpus
21:17 wizzyre_laptop hm, my mac handles hard VM tasks just fine
21:16 braedon|work give me more real cores!
21:16 braedon|work yeah
21:15 gmcharlt alas, hyperthreading helps I/O bound processes ... not at all :)
21:14 * braedon|work thinks hyperthreading is useless :P
21:12 * braedon|work is compiling Koha on a local VM - it is making his computer REALLY laggy :(
21:10 chris_n bbl
21:04 wizzyre_laptop hi jo :)
21:04 wizzyre_laptop man what a day >.<
21:04 Jo hi Liz
21:04 liz-nekls hi again
21:04 * gmcharlt welcomes wizzyrea 's clone
21:02 chris only the ones that people have sent patches for are there
21:02 chris because people have translated them
21:00 owen No fr-CA in /installer/data/mysql/, I'm not sure why only certain languages are
21:00 ebegin owen, this is good for both fr-FR and fr-CA
20:59 * owen took enough French in high school to know to look for the diacritics but not enough to actually translate
20:59 Jo couldn't see you on the list
20:59 Jo hola Chris
20:59 chris or email the translate list
20:59 chris might wanna file a bug for that
20:59 owen Lots of granular permissions not translated yet in fr-FR
20:58 ebegin gmcharlt, good point :)
20:58 gmcharlt k, just checking :)
20:57 owen gmcharlt: Yes
20:57 ebegin owen, unfortunatly, i don't speak ukranian, russian or polish :)
20:57 chris Jo: im here
20:57 gmcharlt owen: do you see the diacritics?
20:57 owen Thanks ebegin!
20:57 ebegin owen: "Réserver pour des adhérents" "Modifier la priorité des réservations" "Ajout et modifications des réservations des adhérents"
20:55 chris ?
20:55 Jo Chris C not around by the looks of this
20:54 owen "Place holds for patrons" "Modify holds priority" "Place and modify holds for patrons"
20:53 owen ebegin: Some new permissions
20:52 ebegin what has to be translated?
20:51 ebegin i'm here :)
20:51 gmcharlt but it needn't hold up the patch
20:51 gmcharlt and I see that ebegin is around
20:51 gmcharlt if they're awake, hdl_laptop are pretty quick to supply french in-channel
20:50 owen Okay. I'll do that and resubmit.
20:50 chris yup
20:50 gmcharlt yep
20:50 owen ...but copy the English strings into the other lang files?
20:50 chris yup
20:49 chris for now
20:49 chris id just do them in english then mail the koha-translate list and say, there are some new strings that need to be translated
20:49 gmcharlt another thing that needs a translation mechanism :)
20:49 chris you will need english, french, ukranian, russian and i think polish :)
20:48 chris or you can ask on koha-translate
20:48 chris and someone will translate it for you
20:48 chris just do it in english
20:48 gmcharlt yep
20:48 chris fr/mandatory et al
20:47 owen Okay. Kin?
20:47 gmcharlt owen: re 2970, need to update installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/userpermissions.sql (and its kin) as well with the new permissions
20:46 munin 04Bug 4155: blocker, P1, ---, pianohacker@gmail.com, NEW, Can't change the language of the staff client in system preferences
20:46 chris http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4155 its on there
20:45 fredericd I fill a bug for this little bug. What's jess's email?
20:45 chris yup
20:45 gmcharlt though he's been away the past few days
20:44 chris im sure jesse can stomp them pretty fast though
20:44 chris there are a few litte bugs in it
20:43 fredericd I can see a bug in the pref editor itself with DefaultClassificationSource preference
20:43 gmcharlt fredericd: thanks
20:43 fredericd gmcharlt: no reason. It's just a cut and past... I will resubmit.
20:43 owen I hope my patch does the trick
20:43 wizzyrea if that's fixed, I will be so excited
20:42 wizzyrea 2970=win
20:42 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2970 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Create a permission for modifying holds priority
20:42 owen gmcharlt, I just sent a patch for Bug 2970. Please check it carefully since it's my first try at a database revision.
20:39 * jwagner wishes I could contribute something besides snark :-(
20:39 * gmcharlt is pleased with bug-squashing so far - the number of blockers has in fact gone down
20:32 schuster neat.
20:30 gmcharlt git status will show you what's staged to be committed
20:30 schuster ok cool.
20:30 gmcharlt only those two
20:29 schuster so after I have done the git add - only those 2 files will be in my commit or will the things prior be in the commit as well?
20:28 schuster I have specific files I want to send seperate so they can get attached to the bugs.
20:28 schuster yes I have it printed out but after the "do some work" section it only talks about if you want to submit everything you have modified.
20:25 wizzyrea schuster have you seen http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage
20:24 schuster Thanks - I've made notes... I also have a file for check-url.pl that works really cool
20:23 chris seems to be a bug with any syspref controlled by a checkbox
20:22 gmcharlt schuster: yep - git add file1 file2 , etc.
20:22 gmcharlt fredericd: please check email - small license issue with pref-trans - why is it Perl instead of GPL2+ ?
20:22 schuster There are 2 files that's all I have to do for those 2 items to be bundled in the patch?
20:21 schuster Last question - not sure I'll be able to do this from work but... when I do -- git addcirc/circulation.pl circulation.tmpl
20:20 wizzyrea :)
20:20 wizzyrea i figured you wouldn't be such a nub as to have that problem, but had to ask
20:19 chris ie i can change other sys prefs
20:19 chris everything else works
20:19 chris yep
20:18 wizzyrea chris: dumb question (i hit this earlier) JSON is installed right?
20:18 gmcharlt cool
20:18 chris ill file a bug and attempt to fix it
20:18 chris there is a checkbox, changes to it don't stick tho
20:17 gmcharlt en-US is good enough for the whole world! </bad_usian>
20:17 chris but frederics patch works a treat if you get in the db and change the language by hand
20:17 chris gmcharlt: found a bug in sysprefs, i cant change my language
20:17 gmcharlt and also attach the patch to the bug
20:16 gmcharlt send it to patches@Koha.org
20:16 owen braedon|work: US/Mountain I think, but he usually doesn't come in until his afternoon
20:16 gmcharlt 2nd part - after you create the patch file (using git format-patch origin)
20:16 chris_n longer descriptoin of patch++
20:16 chris ahh found it
20:16 gmcharlt third and subsequent lines: longer descriptoin of patch
20:16 braedon|work owen: what timezone is he in?
20:16 gmcharlt second line: blank
20:16 gmcharlt first line: Bug 2930: add the other name to the CKO screen
20:16 chris what the heck
20:15 gmcharlt 1st, when you are asked to enter the commit message, format it something like this:
20:15 owen It might be too early braedon|work
20:15 gmcharlt schuster: two ways
20:15 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2930 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Put other name on CKO screen
20:15 schuster then how does it get linked to bugs.koha.org? Bug 2930 ?
20:15 braedon|work still hiding from my hug
20:15 braedon|work hmm, no pianohacker
20:14 * braedon|work tries to find the virtual snacks, but fails
20:14 * chris_n quickly hides the virtual snacks
20:13 wizzyrea oh man... i've made him mad now
20:13 nengard_ huh? what? what's going on? I was on the phone
20:12 chris_n or git commit -a
20:12 gmcharlt then git commit
20:12 gmcharlt schuster: git add circ/circulation.pl (and any other files you changed)
20:11 chris_n wizzyrea even :-)
20:11 owen chris_n: wizzyrea shelled out the extra money for NitPick Pro
20:11 schuster or should I drive nengard_ crazy and ask her directly for assistance ;)
20:11 jwagner Has she lost her zing?
20:10 jwagner wissyrea???
20:10 * chris_n likes wissyrea's cool arrows and text balloons
20:10 gmcharlt btw, it'll be another 3-4 hours before I'm pushing patches to HEAD, but I'll try to get everything submitted today (that works!) pushed by the end of th enight
20:09 schuster Looking at the git instructions I have a question. So I have added the "Othername" feature to my 3.2 box. I should be able to git commit circulation.pl right? or can I get a quick tutorial
20:09 * jwagner goes WOW -- major wind blast and lots of snow blowing around. Couldn't see the garage there for a minute.
20:09 owen wizzyrea: Amazon.com has three pixels of padding there. Shall we do four just to prove we're better?
20:08 jwagner Yep. I feel that pickiness should be MY exclusive right!
20:08 schuster some webmistress' are just so darn picky...
20:08 jwagner And I had one site that insisted on renaming Library Catalog to Keyword in that dropdown box....
20:07 wizzyrea :)
20:07 gmcharlt :)
20:07 wizzyrea >.<
20:07 wizzyrea don't hit me
20:06 gmcharlt better do that - we'll kill the design pedants, kill them dead, if we let that stay in!
20:05 * owen runs off to file a blocker bug
20:03 wizzyrea it's not like, dire :/
20:03 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/NWY2OTZm
20:03 owen Yes
20:02 wizzyrea owen: about?
20:01 chris lemme translate it and apply that
20:01 chris sweet it makes the .po file just fine
19:56 chris ill apply the patches and give it a whirl
19:55 chris yep could do
19:55 gmcharlt chris: time to try an en-NZ syspref translation - good way of testing fredericd 's mechanism
19:52 wizzyrea k
19:52 gmcharlt but if a decent interval has passed, feel free to close after testing
19:51 nengard_ if I log off again - you know why
19:51 gmcharlt yep - submitter closing is the ideal
19:51 nengard_ oh boy - lost power -
19:51 wizzyrea kool
19:51 chris if you can test and confirm its fixed you can close
19:51 wizzyrea sweet (just looking through all open bugs for 1. one that I could fix and 2. ones that are still open that could be closed (can I close them or does the submitter have to do it?)
19:50 richard hi chris
19:50 chris hi richard
19:50 richard hi
19:50 gmcharlt wizzyrea: patch for 3655 is in HEAD
19:49 chris po files for sysprefs
19:49 chris ohhh sweet
19:44 wizzyrea there appears to be a patch
19:44 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3655 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti@biblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Opac and News
19:44 wizzyrea did bug 3655 ever get pushed?
19:43 chris_n nope... INT
19:42 chris_n which equals one hour
19:41 * chris_n wonders if the fine charging interval will work correctly if I enter 0.041666667?
19:40 owen So far only references to "GetRecordValue('subtitle',...)" in the code
19:40 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2918 critical, P3, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, No Place Hold Button if AllowHoldPolicyOverride OFF
19:40 chris nengard: can you check my update to bug 2918 please?
19:39 nengard I WOULD LOVE THAT!!!
19:39 gmcharlt nengard: an idea popped in my head - should we call some sort of documentation day where developments are supposed to be in channel so tha tyou can bug them for documentation?
19:38 owen Given the construction in the template, I'm assuming it has to be set up on a case by case basis: <!-- TMPL_LOOP NAME="subtitle" --> <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="subfield" --><!-- /TMPL_LOOP -->
19:37 gmcharlt it's supposed to more general than that
19:34 owen I wonder if this keyword-to-MARC-mapping is only enabled for subtitles so far
19:33 chris yep, all nice and 404'y now
19:30 gmcharlt thx
19:30 * chris will test and close
19:30 chris thanks for pushing those patches galen
19:30 chris_n re keyword to MARC mapping
19:30 chris_n owen: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commit;h=fd75507a55ceebdbdc06fc62ead9cf376b90d570
19:15 chris dorks
19:15 chris they already did
19:15 nengard but I was a good girl
19:15 nengard chris i was going to reply - Remove yourself!
19:15 chris heh, they arent even subscribed from that email address
19:15 jwagner I used to work in a medical library. The more letters someone has after their name, the less their actual real-world skills. Or so it seemed....
19:14 chris_n hehe
19:14 * chris fights the urge and removes them
19:14 chris that almost makes me want to subscribe them to more lists instead
19:14 chris and writes in huge red letters
19:13 * chris_n finds it interesting that someone with a Ph.D. cannot unsubscribe from the list
19:12 chris heya chris_n
19:12 chris (the fact it sends 200's not 404's makes google et al beat the hell out of the opac when it doesnt need to)
19:12 chris_n hey chris
19:12 chris did the patch for this get lost?
19:12 schuster In reality it is probably his child on the computer while dad is tied up in a chair forced to watch Disney channel - wait maybe not forced... It's pretty cute.
19:12 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3797 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, The opac 404 page is sent with 200 headers
19:12 chris gmcharlt: bug 3797
19:09 nengard :)
19:08 owen In fact he's probably watching stuff on the DVR and deleting it before I get a chance to watch.
19:07 chris_n hehe
19:05 owen Hence, he's not contributing any work.
19:05 owen That's the me that is staying home because the weather is too bad to go out.
19:04 * chris_n finds it interesting that owen has an alter-ego today :-)
18:56 gmcharlt ultimately, yes,
18:55 chris_n gmcharlt: to digress a bit: it also seems to me that all hard coded defaults should be transformed to sysprefs
18:54 gmcharlt and one could envision want category-only limits, or branch-only limits, etc.
18:53 gmcharlt as the semantics of issuingrules is category/itemtype/branchcode
18:52 gmcharlt chris_n: although as is too often the case, there is a pushing on a string aspect to it
18:51 gmcharlt chris_n: thanks
18:49 chris_n gmcharlt: I'll do that then
18:49 fredericd it's pure insanity
18:48 fredericd I will do partial french translation afetr dining, and send a patch
18:48 gmcharlt fredericd++
18:48 fredericd gmcharlt: I begin to have something to allow preferences text translation
18:48 gmcharlt check the appropriate issuingrules.reservesallowed values
18:48 chris_n but not in 3.2
18:48 chris_n hdl_laptop told me the other day that work they were doing would address 4045
18:48 gmcharlt the ideal fix would be to have the remaining invocations of the old maxreserves syspref
18:47 owen The circ matrix lets the librarian define limits there, but those limits are not checked anywhere in the Koha code.
18:47 owen That's what bug 4045 is all about
18:47 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5, ---, cnighswonger@foundations.edu, ASSIGNED, No check for maximum number of allowed holds.
18:47 chris_n gmcharlt: so does that render bug 4045 invalid?
18:46 gmcharlt it moves down to the circ matrix level as the issuingrules.reservesallowed column
18:45 gmcharlt the intention is for maxreserves the syspref to go away
18:42 chris_n but hdl_laptop would be the one to know if other code was changed rending it useless
18:41 chris_n I think we need to add a db update to add it back
18:41 owen chris_n: But it's getting removed in updatedatabase.pl. Which one wins?
18:39 chris_n http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql;h=3647715bac4655dc9eb6549ceb39b6c2a36493bc;hb=HEAD#l64
18:39 chris_n maxreserves is in the current sysprefs.sql
18:38 owen Yes
18:38 chris_n owen about?
18:37 nengard thanks gmcharlt - will test as soon as i finish the help files i'm adding now :)
18:37 gmcharlt nengard: pushed followup for 4152
18:19 ccatalfo hey there chris_n
18:18 chris_n howdy ccatalfo
18:18 nengard but i don't know the right command :) hehe
18:18 munin nengard: Error: "probably" is not a valid command.
18:18 nengard munin probably knows :)
18:17 * ccatalfo can't remember the last time i was on #koha. *sigh*
18:17 ccatalfo hey nengard!
18:17 nengard hi ccatalfo!!!
18:16 gmcharlt cool
18:15 ccatalfo hey gmcharlt. Just dropping by to watch while i'll do other work. If I have time i'll be on later tonight and might be able to contribute something then.
18:14 gmcharlt hi ccatalfo
18:02 wizzyrea k
18:02 gmcharlt not in yet
18:02 * wizzyrea is trying desperately to stomp :P
18:01 wizzyrea or it didn't fix it or...
18:01 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3419
18:01 wizzyrea gmcharlt: did this patch get in?
17:56 wizzyrea oh, I like the layout changes to the inventory tool
17:53 * nengard lunching
17:51 nengard but it might be my file, so i'll try another file
17:50 nengard gmcharlt, it fixed it with everything but the csv import ...
17:49 gmcharlt the fix may or may not be relevant to the specific use case you reported (CSV import)
17:48 nengard oo - okay will try again
17:48 gmcharlt nengard: I've pushed a patch for 4152
17:45 schuster 245n
17:44 schuster chris_n - we use self check and the librarians use a low level generic login for circ and self check - it also helps because it sets the location
17:41 owen But what other bits of info require mapping there?
17:40 owen When I add a "mapping" for subtitle (245b) and the BKS framework, I get subtitle display
17:40 owen Looks like subtitle display is broken because I don't have anything defined there
17:38 nengard anything
17:38 nengard owen no! but I do need to know about it for documenting purposes - i think i emailed the list to ask for help and never heard anythng
17:38 owen nengard or anyone else, Do you know anything about "Keyword to MARC Mapping?"
17:38 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3738 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Automate login to web-based self-check system
17:38 jwagner chris_n, also see Bug 3738 for automating the login to self-check.
17:38 jwagner "sucking mouthparts"????
17:37 munin chris_n: wn, foldoc, jargon, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Bug \Bug\ (b[u^]g), v. t. to {annoy}; to bother or pester. [PJC] Bugaboo; wn: bug n 1: general term for any insect or similar creeping or crawling invertebrate 2: a fault or defect in a system or machine [syn: {glitch}] 3: a small hidden microphone; for listening secretly 4: insects with sucking mouthparts and forewings thickened (41 more messages)
17:37 chris_n @dict bug
17:37 chris_n jwagner: that was my concern
17:36 jwagner chris_n, one reason you might want to limit it (in practice) to a single login is security. I set up a separate user with restricted permissions, rather than having a full superuser ID logged in.
17:36 owen (new to me anyway, I probably wasn't paying attention)
17:35 owen I see, new link on the Administration page, "Keyword to MARC Mapping"
17:35 jwagner I have a couple of sites that use the self-check, and they both use a single login ID for it, but there's no real reason it _has_ to be one ID.
17:34 chris_n yes
17:34 jwagner picky, picky
17:34 munin jwagner: Error: "chris_n," is not a valid command.
17:34 jwagner @chris_n, you mean the initial staff login?
17:33 chris_n is it typical practice to run the self checkout under a single account?
17:33 owen What is this new table "fieldmapping" and should it not be empty?
17:32 jwagner Depends on who was duped....
17:30 owen Does squashing a dupe count? :P
17:28 jwagner Every time you squash one bug, two arise from the pulp?
17:28 nengard hehe
17:28 owen (jinx)
17:28 owen Today seems to be bug-finding day rather than bug-squashing day :(
17:28 nengard i know i'm supposed to be squashing bugs, not finding bugs ... but i was testing a bug that was patched and found this problem :(
17:27 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4152 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, cannot run inventory
17:27 nengard okay I updated the inventory bug report: bug 4152 with my error log to help with debugging
17:26 jwagner The hard part with combining data is standardizing policies such as item types, locations, etc. Ideally, you'd like it to be clean & tidy.
17:25 jwagner We've thought about some kind of sample data set too, just haven't done anything about it. We randomized some data from one of our sites for a demo server, but it's not ideal.
17:25 gmcharlt something between 1,000 and 5,000 bibs total would seem to be the right size
17:25 wizzyrea truf
17:25 jwagner wizzyrea, grab data from two of them. Instant multi-library :-)
17:24 wizzyrea single branch though :/
17:24 * wizzyrea has some very small libraries currently using koha
17:24 * wizzyrea thinks about this
17:24 wizzyrea to fit with the other default data
17:24 wizzyrea and all that
17:23 wizzyrea well, you'd have to sanitize locations
17:23 wizzyrea gmcharlt I agree
17:23 gmcharlt auto-creating items is viable, sure, but having items that look like they come from a real shelflist would be nicer
17:22 gmcharlt ideally, something coming from a real library so that the items look real
17:22 gmcharlt wizzyrea: it just needs somebody to contribute a small dataset
17:22 nengard i do have an error log i'm adding to the bug report
17:22 nengard okay the tool works if i select nothing and leave it at it's default
17:21 wizzyrea on the bright side, everything looks very crispy in the staff interface, nice job owen and all
17:21 chris_n but I ran out of time
17:20 * chris_n thought about writing a script to harvest records from LOC and build items for them automagically
17:20 wizzyrea bargle.
17:20 chris_n yup
17:20 wizzyrea get data from your production serveR?
17:20 wizzyrea chris_n: what do you do for items/testing?
17:20 wizzyrea pretty much
17:19 chris_n one-click, instant library :-)
17:19 * wizzyrea grumbles
17:19 wizzyrea and it just installs everything you'd need for a demo/test install
17:19 * chris_n agrees
17:19 wizzyrea actually, there should be a checkbox: give me a fully functioning catalog with sample patrons, bibs, and items, this is for testing"
17:18 wizzyrea optional to install, of course
17:18 nengard wizzyrea - i agree
17:18 nengard Colin, i can - but the CSV is not the problem .. the problem is the report in general - it doesn't work when i don't use a CSV either
17:18 wizzyrea grr, I think (perhaps selfishly and wrongly) that there should be sample items in the sample data
17:18 Colin nengard: You may want to add AND items.barcode IS NOT NULL if you want only bcs
17:16 nengard i've added most of mine by hand
17:16 nengard the sample data doesn't have items ... i don't think
17:16 wizzyrea gah, i'm feeling so dumb today
17:16 nengard yeah - it had a bunch of barcodes in it
17:15 wizzyrea guess that would explain why I don't get any search results :(
17:15 wizzyrea I thought I imported the sample data but mayb enot
17:15 wizzyrea but, that could be my data
17:15 wizzyrea erm, that actually gave you data? because it gave me an empty file :/
17:14 nengard maybe im' wrong and we can close it right away
17:14 nengard bug reported
17:14 nengard :(
17:14 nengard like i said - it's the same one i used 16 versions ago to document the inventory tool and it worked A-OK
17:13 nengard SELECT items.barcode FROM items LEFT JOIN biblioitems on (items.biblioitemnumber=biblioitems.biblioitemnumber) LEFT JOIN biblio on (biblioitems.biblionumber=biblio.biblionumber) WHERE items.holdingbranch='CPL'
17:13 nengard i used this sql to generate the list
17:13 wizzyrea :)
17:13 wizzyrea nm then
17:12 wizzyrea default data?
17:12 nengard you won't have the same barcodes as me
17:12 nengard wizzyrea it won't work for you - it's my barcodes :)
17:10 wizzyrea wizzyrea at gmail
17:10 wizzyrea send me your CSV and I'll try it
17:09 wizzyrea erg
17:05 nengard it's not working for any options i select and it's not working for a CSV file of barcodes - and I know it worked because i documented it
17:04 nengard can anyone get the inventory tool to work?
16:52 * owen too
16:49 * wizzyrea_ stomps
16:49 wizzyrea_ ^.^
16:49 wizzyrea_ woot!
16:48 gmcharlt wizzyrea_: btw, it looks like bug 3648 can be used for your patch
16:48 nengard oh no :(
16:45 jwagner I've been trying for a month to get a new gas stove (heating kind, not cooking kind) installed. Finally got it scheduled for ... today. Ain't happening :-(
16:44 jwagner Looks like about 6-8 new inches out there now, still coming down. The wind is the worst -- whiteout conditions all over and snow drifting everywhere.
16:43 jwagner We could use some. Third blizzard of the winter, and the second in four days. I like winter, but enough already!
16:42 nengard jwagner looks like you get some relief before we do...
16:42 munin nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is 0.2�C (11:30 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa (Falling). Blizzard Warning in effect until midnight EST tonight...
16:42 nengard @wunder 19030
16:41 wizzyrea_ (thanks, that one always grated me, I had to look it up every time)
16:40 wizzyrea_ will do
16:40 gmcharlt wizzyrea_: looks good; also check INSTALL.debian-lenny and INSTALL.ubuntu
16:40 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is -5.4�C (11:38 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.35 in 993.8 hPa (Steady). Blizzard Warning in effect until 7 PM EST this evening...
16:40 jwagner @wunder 20740
16:39 wizzyrea_ zowie
16:38 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "proposed INSTALL.debian change" (19 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/114
16:35 wizzyrea_ The parser you are using should be at the bottom of the file, the last listed entry. Otherwise, you may get errors.
16:35 wizzyrea_ http://xml.org/sax/features/namespaces = 1
16:35 wizzyrea_ [XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser]
16:35 wizzyrea_ Example (in most cases, this example would be the correct entry to have at the bottom of the file):
16:35 wizzyrea_ I'm adding this to the install.debian, it's correct right (it always annoyed me that it told you to go edit the file, but didn't tell you what to do to it)
16:35 owen Grrr.... OPACXSLTResultsDisplay pref broken...
16:34 munin gmcharlt: Quote #31: "<@gmcharlt> but hacking Koha *should* be a restful part of any vacation ;)" (added by chris at 07:31 PM, September 02, 2009)
16:34 gmcharlt @quote random
16:33 gmcharlt owen_: transitory, fortunately
16:33 munin gmcharlt: The current temperature in FoxFire Woods, Gainesville, Florida is 6.0�C (11:30 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady). Lake Wind Advisory in effect from 9 am this morning to 7 PM this evening...
16:33 gmcharlt @wunder 32605
16:32 gmcharlt owen: still with us?
16:24 wizzyrea :D awesome thanks
16:24 gmcharlt I've now renamed the two installation components to cover upgrades
16:22 wizzyrea or installation/upgrade
16:22 wizzyrea there isn't a component for Upgrade, maybe we want one? (I'll put it under installation/command line)
16:20 wizzyrea :P
16:20 wizzyrea Ahh! I help!
16:20 gmcharlt what's missing are instructions for catching them all when you upgrade
16:20 gmcharlt it is a new requirement, and it's properly accounted for in the install scripts
16:19 wizzyrea I'll take that as a no :) will do
16:19 gmcharlt wizzyrea: ok, cool - please file a bug, assigned to me, to write up or otherwise handle instructions for installing new perl modules that were since 3.0.0
16:19 wizzyrea (I haven't looked) is that a new requirement or is it documented that you need it?
16:18 wizzyrea i installed the JSON perl module and it works now. Thanks gmcharlt for the diagnostic tip
16:17 * wizzyrea feels really dumb
16:17 wizzyrea one moment, installing that little bugger
16:15 wizzyrea >.<
16:15 wizzyrea did I not properly read the readme
16:15 wizzyrea is that a new requirement?
16:14 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "error" (1 line) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/113
16:14 wizzyrea ah ty that is illuminating
16:12 gmcharlt what do you get when you run perl -c svc/config/systempreferences ?
16:12 gmcharlt yep, svc/config/systempreferences is what actually changes syspref values
16:11 wizzyrea because that's how I found it
16:11 wizzyrea something about the searching of the sysprefs?
16:10 wizzyrea maybe this is actually the problem http://paste.workbuffer.org/112
16:09 gmcharlt and md5sum svc/config/systempreferences
16:08 gmcharlt what do you get when you run md5sum admin/preferences.pl on the server?
16:08 wizzyrea and how it looks like it's set, but if you refresh it's off
16:08 owen Interesting, I've never seen that before
16:08 wizzyrea at the bottom
16:07 wizzyrea note the message log
16:07 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/Yjk1NTViNW
16:07 owen Hi danielg
16:07 gmcharlt wecome danielg
16:07 danielg hi, daniel grobani at samuel merritt university here. i'll be lurking on & off during today to see what y'all are up to
16:06 wizzyrea gah
16:06 gmcharlt hmm, not having any problem twiddling that syspref
16:06 wizzyrea I suppose I could dump the db and set it again at install time
16:06 wizzyrea at least in my case
16:06 wizzyrea but if you refresh, it's not set
16:05 wizzyrea it *looks* like it sets it
16:05 wizzyrea it tells me internal server error
16:05 wizzyrea could I turn off javascript?
16:05 owen wizzyrea: You find that you can't set sysprefs? I get the error in my log but I haven't had problems saving prefs
16:05 wizzyrea nozebra
16:05 gmcharlt is it a particular syspref?
16:04 wizzyrea sooo... how does one set the sysprefs with that error?
16:02 owen thanks for looking gmcharlt. I'll have to leave it to cleverer folk than myself.
16:02 gmcharlt so that the rules for handling checks on branchcode, itemtype, and categorycode can be done consistently
16:02 gmcharlt there are several other places in C4 where queries on issuingrules ought to be replaced by a central circ rule lookup function
15:58 gmcharlt instead, something like GetIssuingRule() should be used to look up the relevant rule
15:58 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4123 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Error in checking whether a checkout can be renewed
15:57 gmcharlt owen: re bug 4123, at first glance that big query on issuingrules shouldn't have been used in the first place
15:56 wizzyrea blerg.
15:56 wizzyrea or not
15:56 wizzyrea it looks like it changes the setting though
15:55 gmcharlt ouch - I noticed that I allowed that CanBookBeRenewed update go through including an SQL query that didn't use placeholders fro everything
15:54 owen I get that too wizzyrea
15:53 wizzyrea :( sysprefs say: [Sat Jan 30 06:41:41 2010] [error] [client 10.0.2.2] [Sat Jan 30 06:41:41 2010] preferences.pl: Use of uninitialized value $text in pattern match (m//) at /home/liz/kohaclone/admin/preferences.pl line 198., referer: http://localhost:8888/cgi-bin/koha/admin/admin-home.pl
15:51 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4123 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Error in checking whether a checkout can be renewed
15:51 * owen would love to get someone's opinion on Bug 4123
15:50 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4141 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, reconcile 3.0.x and HEAD database updates for 3.2.0
15:50 gmcharlt ok, then it can probalby be closed now - general DB udpate issues from 3.0.x to 3.2 can be added to bug 4141 if they still exist
15:49 hdl_laptop i think it was an update problem on the database used
15:46 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3609 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, updatedatabase from 3.0.x, new acq permissions
15:46 gmcharlt bug 3609
15:46 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3069 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Koha Z39.50 client process discussion
15:46 hdl_laptop bug 3069
15:46 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: unless I'm mistaken, I think 3609 is fixed
15:41 gmcharlt right, the you submitted was for the OPAC
15:41 nengard owen - you are right, there is another bug i need to address -i was on the staff side - where there is no warning - off to report and patch
15:40 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4009 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, New list w/out title fails silently
15:40 gmcharlt OPAC in the case of bug 4009
15:39 owen OPAC or staff client?
15:39 nengard i'll checkout a copy of just that file and see if that fixes it
15:39 nengard apparently my system is just all screwy!!!
15:39 nengard hmmm - well i can create a list without a title and i get no errors
15:38 gmcharlt i.e., it is prompt if you try to add a list with an empty title
15:38 gmcharlt nengard: I'm not seeing that 4009 is not fixed (sorry for the double negative)
15:35 nengard morning owen!
15:35 owen Hi all
15:34 nengard sorry - worded poorly - it was one patch but only 4010 was fixed and 4009 wasn't ... so the question is - is it possible my changes were overwritted by a merge issue?
15:33 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4009 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, New list w/out title fails silently
15:33 gmcharlt nengard: what separate patch? the one submitted covered both - 'bug 4009 & 4010 add required fields'
15:33 bigbrovar Even if I select the english language options it still stays french
15:33 bigbrovar It seems the language options for koha 3.0.5 is broken If I choose english and french the default language would be set to french and cant be changed from OPAC
15:32 nengard gmcharlt the patch for 4010 was applied, but not the patch for 4009 and they were both submitted in one patch --- was there a merge issue? or a reason one went through and the other didn't?
15:26 chris_n and then will work toward coding that module to format for printing on that
15:25 * chris_n is looking for a dye-sublimation id card printer for a reasonable price
15:24 chris_n cool!
15:21 nengard chris_n - i just printed my first batch of patron cards!! You rock!! It's awesome :)
15:12 bigbrovar ebegin: thanks
15:10 ebegin bigbrovar, it should be in Account » Security Credential
15:05 gmcharlt either/or - it helps to have both upgrades and fresh installs tested
15:04 wizzyrea better to upgrade or start fresh?
15:03 gmcharlt wizzyrea: pretty much as nengard says - pick a bug that you can fix, assigned to yourself, make the patch, and submit it
15:03 nengard lots of commits last night and this morning
15:03 nengard yup
15:03 wizzyrea well, a pull is probably in order before we start that
15:02 wizzyrea hehe
15:02 nengard wizzyrea - put on some big shoes and start stomping :)
15:02 wizzyrea so, how are we going about this bug squashing?
14:56 gmcharlt well, if you want ot toss your hat in the ring to be assignee for circ components in BZ, I don't think anybody would object
14:53 hdl_laptop and we also did one.
14:53 gmcharlt but he tends to come and go as far as being active on koha-devel
14:53 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: yes... midst of ages
14:53 gmcharlt and he did offline circ of course
14:52 gmcharlt well, Kyle has submitted various reserves and circ patches over the years
14:52 gmcharlt and why 21? that's just a default added back in the mists of time - quite likely it is a pre-3.0 thing
14:52 hdl_laptop Has he already worked on that ?
14:51 gmcharlt but there's plenty of room for others to take ownership of circ
14:51 gmcharlt well, Kyle has volunteered to be bug assignee for circ
14:51 hdl_laptop In fact, we are enhancing that and found some problems with the present day situation : e.g. GetLoanLength is defaulted to 21 Why 21 ? By default (no rule defined), a checkout is... allowed.
14:49 hdl_laptop in general and in bug fixing
14:49 gmcharlt in general, you mean?
14:49 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: Do you know if one is working on circulation and smart-rules at the moment ?
14:43 bigbrovar ebegin: is this the same as AWS Account ID ?
14:41 bigbrovar ebegin: hmm I just cant seem to find it.. maybe its in my aws-profile\
14:39 ebegin it is usually displayed in your amazon account
14:38 bigbrovar ebegin: any idea how to get the AmazonAssocTag?
14:38 ebegin Nope. I was kidding about the secret key.
14:37 bigbrovar ebegin: oh I use my secret key?
14:37 bigbrovar ebegin: em er I thought it supose to the secret ?
14:37 ebegin What is your secret key? :)
14:36 bigbrovar HI guys I have registered for the amazon aws.amazon.com for amazonassoctag .. I have a secret access key and an accesskey. But I dont know I to obtain AmazonAssocTag
14:20 nengard i have no trouble on the site itself - just that i'm not getting emails from it
14:17 chris_n s/big/bit/
14:10 gmcharlt BZ is a little slow for me to, but not deathly so
14:08 chris_n bugzilla seems a big slow from here
14:01 nengard are commit and bug emails coming in slow for everyone?
14:00 magnus gmcharlt: thanks - closed
13:58 gmcharlt magnus: done
13:56 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3751 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus@enger.priv.no, ASSIGNED, Typo in marc21_field_008.pl
13:56 magnus gmcharlt: if you push the patch for bug 3751 i'll close it asap... ;-)
13:51 nengard yes
13:48 hdl_laptop 3938... OK
13:47 nengard I can record a video of what I did if you want
13:47 nengard hdl_laptop 4016 is still an issue - i chose to have the item picked up at Fairview and yet both the patrons show that they want to have the item picked up at Centerville
13:45 jwagner Maybe it was fixed after the .100 level?
13:44 jwagner Hrmmm. My only updated server is a bit old by now (3.01.00.100), and its index has been rebuilt by the koha owner user, but I still don't see any authority records when I search.
13:43 nengard jwagner user
13:43 jwagner nengard, I got lost there. Was the solution a lock file, or running rebuild zebra as another user?
13:42 gmcharlt another blocker bites the dust - it's all good
13:41 nengard WOOO HOOOO - and DUH!! and I'm sorry :( - all is well now :)
13:40 nengard oh - wait - I DO!!! Let me try something
13:40 nengard http://koha.pastebin.com/m1ea5ac52
13:39 gmcharlt upshot of where I'm getting at is if you have a separate 'koha' user, you have to change to that to run the rebuild_zebra.pl
13:39 gmcharlt and ls -lR /home/nengard/koha-dev/var/lib/zebradb ?
13:38 gmcharlt what's the output of the id command?
13:37 nengard and http://koha.pastebin.com/m4c4e996c
13:37 nengard -rw-r--r-- 1 koha koha 0 2009-09-17 11:55 /home/nengard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/authorities/norm..LCK
13:37 gmcharlt and ls -lR /home/nengard/koha-dev/var/lock
13:36 gmcharlt nengard: what does ls -l /home/nengard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/authorities/norm..LCK show
13:36 nengard this was my log as i rebuilt - and i still find no results: http://koha.pastebin.com/m9995543
13:34 ebegin Good morning, afternoon, night ;)
13:33 hdl_laptop perl rebuild_zebra.pl -a -reset -v
13:33 nengard i need to step away - be back ASAP
13:33 nengard -bash: rebuild_zebra.pl: command not found
13:33 nengard nengard@debian:~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools$ rebuild_zebra.pl -a -reset -v
13:33 nengard hdl_laptop - i get this:
13:30 hdl_laptop and KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB
13:30 hdl_laptop in misc/migration_tools
13:29 hdl_laptop rebuild_zebra.pl -a -reset -v
13:29 nengard hdl_laptop yup - but not since i reported the bug, so if you want to tell me what to do I'll do it again
13:28 hdl_laptop nengard: have you reindexed your authorities for 3938 ?
13:28 nengard that said I'll check again to see if it's still an issue
13:28 nengard hdl_laptop - I put the URL in the bug -- cgi-bin/koha/reserve/request.pl?biblionumber=1
13:27 nengard checking now
13:27 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4016 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, holds listing wrong pick up location
13:27 hdl_laptop can you please tell me which page bug 4016 occurs please ?
13:26 nengard hi hdl_laptop
13:26 hdl_laptop nengard: ?
13:21 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3938 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Cannot Search Authorities After Upgrade
13:21 nengard gmcharlt bug 3938 updated - and sorry it's still an issue - but if no one else can reproduce it maybe it's something specific to my system ....
13:15 munin chris_n: pianohackr|work was last seen in #koha 3 days, 17 hours, 33 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <pianohackr|work> gmcharlt: re: translation stopgap?
13:15 chris_n @seen pianohackr|work
13:14 gmcharlt find . -name 'koha-zebradaemon-output.log'
13:14 nengard k - off to find it
13:14 gmcharlt cd ~
13:14 gmcharlt or
13:14 gmcharlt it's in var/log from whereever you set your Koha run directory
13:14 nengard or gmcharlt :)
13:13 nengard can someone point me to where i can find: koha-zebradaemon-output.log so i can troubleshoot a bug for gmchartl?
13:05 hdl_laptop go for it
13:04 gmcharlt if you don't have patches for those bugs yet, I'll work on it
13:04 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: thoughts on 4144 and 3912 - I think dropping checkdate and comparedate from acq.js and using Date_from_syspref to create JS Date objects for the checks would handle it
12:55 hdl_laptop seems that bugzilla is s l o w
12:53 hdl_laptop hehe
12:52 jwagner hdl_laptop, do crickets count?
12:52 * chris_n is glad to see talk of ILL work on the list
12:51 chris_n hehe
12:46 hdl_laptop hi jwagner have you ever heard the call of bugs in he hoods ?
12:46 gmcharlt theme song for the day: Ride of the Valkyries, Elmer Fudd version, substituting 'buuu-uugs' for 'wabbits'
12:44 * jwagner listens for squishing noises
12:44 jwagner Good morning.
12:42 chris_n g'morning #koha
12:15 chris_n fredericd: FWIW, webif (a web interface for open-wrt) uses @TR<foo> to tag items for translation
11:53 gmcharlt fredericd++
11:51 fredericd Ok. I give a try to a raw-tokenization of yaml files and see what happens. This is the simplest path
11:48 gmcharlt particularly to better tag linguistic elements
11:48 gmcharlt changing the YAML syntax doesn't bother me as such
11:48 gmcharlt but I was hoping that we could finally fold them into Pootle
11:47 gmcharlt of course, it's not like there was a PO-based translation system for systprefs before the new editor
11:47 gmcharlt that is a problem
11:47 gmcharlt hmm
11:44 fredericd I fear it's necessary to modify deeply YAML files syntax and consequently the new pref editor itself
11:43 gmcharlt however, I don't think that the syspref names should be translated - they act as keys into the database
11:43 gmcharlt there are limits, of course - I agree that word order is an issue
11:42 fredericd the issue is that depending of languages, the order of text, verbs and syspref name must change
11:42 gmcharlt and things like the choice options, which are distinct and can be translated separately
11:42 gmcharlt which, for now, could be translated as big strings
11:42 gmcharlt various pieces of text
11:41 gmcharlt the syspref definition in the Yaml consists of syspref name (which should end up as a comment in the PO to help identify the context of the string)
11:41 gmcharlt but there's an intermediate step
11:41 gmcharlt no, the linguistic tagging can come later
11:40 gmcharlt i.e., if the options in a choice: are verbs, add something to flag it
11:40 fredericd gmcharlt: and the YAML files would have to be translated by hand?
11:40 gmcharlt fredericd: one possibility, which would also require tweaking the preference display code, is to add the ability the tag the YAML with linguistic hints
11:38 fredericd any idea from anybody?
11:37 fredericd take a look at that article: http://search.cpan.org/~ferreira/Locale-Maketext-1.13_82/lib/Locale/Maketext/TPJ13.pod
11:37 fredericd I'm not sure it's even possible to get something usable...
11:36 fredericd But since the editor mixes text, verbs and sypref into complex sentences
11:36 fredericd I have to code a new tokenizer (a kind of xgettext)
11:36 fredericd Text pref doesn't come rather from templates nor from db
11:35 fredericd About new preferences editor translation...
11:08 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 1.9�C (6:02 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.23 in 989.7 hPa (Steady). High Wind Warning in effect until 9 PM EST this evening...
11:08 chris_n @wunder 28334
10:55 gmcharlt hi Amit
10:55 Amit heya galen
10:55 gmcharlt bigbrovar++
10:55 Amit heya bigborvar
10:54 bigbrovar gmcharlt: thanks for yesterday I have koha running now, the LIbrarian and I are going through the system preference. And I have updated the wiki as promised
10:46 gmcharlt greetings #koha
10:30 bigbrovar Or a link that would explain the concepts .. we are both noobs to library catalogue systems
10:30 bigbrovar hi guys am with the librarian of the school where I work and we are both trying to setup system preference for koha ( my the school's system admin) I just want to know the different between bibliographic data aquisitions and budget-based aquisitions .. advantages and stuff
09:53 tajoli exit
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09:53 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3255 minor, P5, ---, tajoli@cilea.it, ASSIGNED, [3.0.x], [3.2] With dev install you must create and use a 'koha' user
09:53 tajoli I need to quite, I have insert all info in the bug 3255
09:48 fredericd chris: ?
09:43 tajoli But is only a warning during the install process
09:42 tajoli my patch is here http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-May/003448.html
09:38 tajoli (koha)
09:38 tajoli and it use the default
09:38 tajoli during 'dev' install Makefile.PL doesn't ask you user and group
09:37 tajoli yes, but not during 'dev' install
09:35 magnus hm, Makefile.PL asks for a user and inserts it into other files like koha-conf.xml, doesn't it? Seems it should be able to do so for the shell scripts too?
09:26 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3255 minor, P5, ---, tajoli@cilea.it, ASSIGNED, [3.0.x], [3.2] With dev install you must create and use a 'koha' user
09:26 tajoli Do anyone want to discuss about bug 3255 ?
09:26 tajoli Hi
08:15 Amit heya kf, chris
08:03 shamas ok
08:03 chris you might be better off asking on the koha-win32 list
08:03 chris i dont think anyone here uses windows shamas
08:02 shamas can anyone please help out
08:02 shamas can u please help out
08:02 shamas i am having this error in "intranet error_log" while adding authorized values
08:01 shamas DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Incorrect integer value: '' for column 'id' at row 1 at C:/usr/koha229/intranet/cgi-bin/koha/admin/authorised_values.pl line 117., referer: http://intranet/cgi-bin/koha/admin/authorised_values.pl
07:47 kf hi chris
07:45 chris hi kf
07:44 kf good morning
06:34 munin brendan: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is 1.2�C (1:09 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 6 am EST Thursday...
06:34 brendan @wunder 06516
03:01 munin brendan: Quote #43: "< Ropuch> Uh - beware of tea: it can burn your throat" (added by chris at 04:35 AM, October 30, 2009)
03:01 brendan @quote random
03:00 munin brendan: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 4 days, 7 hours, 43 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <pianohacker> brb work
03:00 brendan @seen pianohacker
01:23 joetho Tomorrow will be a big day.
01:22 joetho French people are amused by that, I think.
01:22 joetho But I am extreeeeeemely interested in it, so I will try to get a very clear idea of what I am trying to express, and see if I can do it in french.
01:21 joetho but I am kind of braindead
01:21 joetho Obviously I am doing something wrong
01:21 joetho it is not in the 3.2 dox yet
01:20 joetho I can't get it to work
01:20 chris ditto the merge
01:20 chris yep
01:20 joetho the new "batch modify a queryset of items" in "tools" came from... BibLibre?
01:12 brendan jinx
01:12 brendan ah biltmore.com
01:12 chris_n http://www.biltmore.com/
01:12 brendan biltmore?
01:11 chris_n you need to visit Biltmore while you're there
01:11 chris_n its very nice, I've been out there a bunch since moving to NC
01:11 chris_n of easy driving
01:11 chris_n ~5 hours
01:11 brendan how far is it for you?
01:11 brendan chris_n would love to have you
01:10 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 4.6�C (8:04 PM EST on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.38 in 994.8 hPa (Falling). High Wind Warning in effect from 6 am to 9 PM EST Wednesday...
01:10 chris_n @wunder 28334
01:10 * chris_n wishes he could break away for the preconference koha meeting in ashville
01:07 brendan sorry middle-earth
01:07 * brendan spent my childhood in mid-earth
01:06 gmcharlt nice
01:06 brendan played on the literary reference and the community aspect of it
01:06 gmcharlt ah
01:06 joetho hmmm
01:06 brendan from LOTR
01:06 brendan it's a small community meeting place in the shire
01:06 joetho no idea
01:05 gmcharlt I'll bite - why did you pick that name?
01:05 brendan do you know why we choose the name ByWater (not anything to do with water)?
01:04 brendan thanks joetho --> I'll make sure to update last thing tonight
01:04 braedon|work 14 timezones should be in the 10th by now
01:03 joetho Yes, I know
01:03 joetho Wow.
01:03 braedon|work "There is a bug squashing session tomorrow all day, all time zones in the #koha"
01:03 joetho This is so much more fun than it was a month ago.
01:03 braedon|work shouldn't it be bug squishing now?
01:03 joetho Hope the Bywater test server doesn't spring a leak.
01:02 joetho tomorrow.
01:01 joetho I want to test that too
00:57 chris that and the bulk item editing are pretty neat
00:57 chris yeah, seems to work too
00:57 joetho pretty interesting
00:57 joetho <---looking at the merge option mentioned above, using the virtualshelflist thing.
00:56 * owen wanders off again
00:55 chris sweet
00:54 brendan busy day tomorrow hoping that I can make it for part of the day for bug squashing
00:51 brendan there you go that's cold
00:51 munin gmcharlt: The current temperature in Barrow, Alaska is -29.0�C (3:45 PM AKST on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -32.0�C. Windchill: -40.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
00:51 gmcharlt @wunder barrow, alaska
00:50 munin brendan: Error: No such location could be found.
00:50 brendan @wunder northpole alaska
00:50 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -6.4�C (6:45 PM CST on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Rising).
00:50 moodaepo @wunder 56001
00:47 gmcharlt I'm quite serious, by the way
00:47 gmcharlt wow, positively balmy in Anchorage
00:47 munin gmcharlt: The current temperature in Northern Lights/ Turnagain, Anchorage, Alaska is -2.6�C (3:42 PM AKST on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996.2 hPa (Falling). Strong wind through tonight along Turnagain Arm and higher elevations...
00:47 gmcharlt @wunder 99517
00:46 * brendan does the munin good weather dance
00:46 brendan ok it's on you munin - make the weather good for that day
00:46 owen ...and since there's no way to know...
00:46 owen I'd love to be there brendan but there's no way I'd attempt the drive if the weather was bad
00:45 chris cool, ill set aside my morning for bugs
00:45 owen Yeah :|
00:44 brendan we can set aside for time for you to talk present --> if you need some motivatiom
00:44 gmcharlt chris: it is indeed bug day tomorrow
00:44 chris without snow :)
00:44 owen Google maps says 6.5 hr drive
00:44 chris from the chatter on #code4lib the place sounds like quite tricky to get too
00:44 * brendan would love to have you there
00:44 chris how far is it?
00:44 * owen wonders if he could swing a trip to the code4lib preconference day...
00:42 chris is it bug day tomorrow?
00:40 brendan :)
00:40 gmcharlt brendan: you're going to code4lib in North Caroline in a couple weeks - better be careful saying that
00:39 brendan snow++ # /me won't be seeing any for awhile
00:39 owen Except my day job turns into a babysitting one!
00:39 gmcharlt owen: being snowed in gives you more time to hack Koha without your pesky day job interfering ;)
00:38 * owen will test more tomorrow and submit...assuming he's not snowed in
00:38 chris i have to say i much prefer that, to the complicated ideas being tossed out about revamping the updatedatabase
00:37 gmcharlt yes
00:37 owen What about changing kohaversion.pl? Will you do that as well?
00:36 gmcharlt and I'll assign the number
00:36 gmcharlt yes - in the updatedatabase.pl code, use 3.01.00.XXX as the version number
00:35 owen I've never submitted a patch that updates the database before-- gmcharlt are you managing database version numbers?
00:32 gmcharlt as it is an enhancement, pushing bugfixes, particularly for holds, will get priority
00:32 owen it's an enhancement, although minor
00:31 gmcharlt it'll be in future, at any rate
00:31 chris if its a bugfix then id say highly likely it will make it
00:31 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2970 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Create a permission for modifying holds priority
00:31 * owen worked on a fix for Bug 2970 today, wondering if it would make it into 3.2
00:30 chris cool, tis pretty quiet at the moment
00:30 owen Hi. Just got the kids in bed, thought I'd wander by
00:29 chris hiya owen