Time  Nick          Message
00:22 brendan       @wunder 93117
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00:23 brendan       @wunder wellington nz
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00:23 brendan       I think it will be a few months until I can compete with you again - chris
01:13 braedon       hey, anyone around in here?
01:22 chris_n2      @wunder 28334
01:22 munin`        chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 7.3�C (8:16 PM EST on January 26, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Falling).
03:41 Amit          hi brendan
03:41 Amit          good morning #koha
03:43 brendan       hi amit
03:50 thd           chris_n2: what is the relation of chris_n to chris_n2?
03:52 thd           chris_n2: how do I tell which is the real you?
05:01 wajasu        Continuing my transform from a legacy catalogue database to koha, I wonder if I should format all the call numbers to no have spaces between the logic breaking points.  The spaces had been added so the spine label would print and break on space.  Should I store it without spaces and design a new spine label accordingly with koha or leave them in?
05:39 brendan       night #koha
06:47 Ropuch        Morning #koha
07:13 Amit          heya Ropuch
07:15 Ropuch        @wunder Wroclaw
07:15 munin`        Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is -20.0�C (8:00 AM CET on January 27, 2010). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -22.0�C. Windchill: -20.0�C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Falling).
11:16 chris_n2      thd: I'm both; chris_n is at work and chris_n2 is at home
11:17 chris_n2      usually I'm chris_n2 after 1630 EST
11:17 chris_n2      and chris_n after 0800 EST
12:00 zico          hi
12:00 zico          i have just deleted one item record... it`s deleted
12:01 zico          but... if i search that... it even comes...and when i click on that... it shows "Error 404..."
12:01 zico          why it isn`t deleted completely?
12:03 Amit          heya
12:03 Amit          zico
12:03 Amit          zico: rebuild your zebra
12:05 slef          erm, nahuel, hi (from Monday morning)
12:07 slef          chris: http://coffeecode.net/archives/209-In-which-I-perceive-that-gossip-is-not-science.html comment #2 is a bit harsh
12:10 Amit          heya slef
12:10 slef          Amit: hi. biab, sorry
12:13 zico          Amit: i rebuild zebra with rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w
12:13 zico          but, nothing changed
12:13 Amit          with -b -z option
12:13 Amit          Zico: run with -z option
12:22 nahuel        hi slef
12:47 slef          hi nahuel - did you want anything in particular?
12:48 nahuel        yep
12:48 nahuel        you made the offline circ on koha3.0 ?
12:48 nahuel        isn't it ?
12:52 slef          no, kyle did that one
12:52 slef          I'm interested in it but have not yet had chance to look at it (oh, so often)
12:52 nahuel        héhé
12:52 nahuel        Some user of us found some problems with it
12:53 slef          I've spent lots of time on various pieces of failing network hardware so far this week :-(
12:53 nahuel        héhé
12:53 nahuel        ok thanks
12:53 slef          post to katipo list and ask where to send bugs?
12:54 chris_n       zico: rebuild_zebra.pl -r -a -b should do it
13:06 hdl_laptop    hi
13:06 hdl_laptop    gmcharlt: around ?
13:07 gmcharlt      hdl_laptop: yes
13:07 hdl_laptop    hi gmcharlt
13:07 hdl_laptop    I saw that master branch is kicking alive GREAT.
13:07 gmcharlt      had a question for you - I'm about to pull in the last of the new_acq fixes and branch off 3.2.x - please confirm which branch to pull from
13:08 hdl_laptop    I just rebased a koha_biblibre_master on your official_master
13:08 hdl_laptop    I could send the patches onlist if you want
13:09 CGI562        Hello, can anyone help with a problem i am experiencing?
13:09 hdl_laptop    s/your official_master/ the official master/
13:10 CGI562        I have installed Koha but i am at the same time having problems with loading ebooks on it
13:11 CGI562        cant i load ebooks and ejournals within koha system?
13:12 hdl_laptop    gmcharlt: ?
13:12 hdl_laptop    CGI562: you have to have a different repository and management for those at the moment
13:13 hdl_laptop    CGI562: you can add link to those ressources in a subfield but Koha is an ILS not a ERM.
13:17 zico          chris_n: thanks chris, it`s working now
13:18 chris_n       g'morning owen
13:18 owen          Hi
13:18 gmcharlt      hdl_laptop: I'll pull from koha_biblibre_master
13:19 hdl_laptop    ok.
13:19 hdl_laptop    It is the uptodate 3.2 for us.
13:19 chris_n       is anyone using the xslt features in opac and successfully displaying 505$t ?
13:21 jwagner       chris_n, I don't recall trying for the 505$t, but looking at the MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl file, it should show if indicator 2 is 0.  You should be able to modify that file to show it regardless of the indicator.
13:22 chris_n       jwagner: that's what I thought, however regardless of the indicator the tag does not display :-(
13:22 chris_n       I suppose I'll have to go into debug mode
13:23 jwagner       You could try adding t to the line <xsl:with-param name="codes">au</xsl:with-param>
13:23 chris_n       505$t displays fine under the "Title Notes" tab in opac-detail.pl though, so it must be the xml
13:24 chris_n       I'll try that and see what's up
13:24 jwagner       ? Where were you trying to make it show?  All the 5xx fields show in that Title Notes tab and I've had limited success trying to make them appear elsewhere.
13:30 gmcharlt      hdl_laptop: I'm not seeing a koha_biblibre_master on git://git.biblibre.com/koha_biblibre.git
13:30 hdl_laptop    it is named master
13:36 gmcharlt      hdl_laptop: tons of merge conflicts - please give me a branch I can pull from
13:37 hdl_laptop    gmcharlt: you should see 3.2_biblibre appear.
13:38 hdl_laptop    It is the official/master with koha_biblibre_master on top
13:38 hdl_laptop    Hoping that the rebase was ok
13:41 gmcharlt      hdl_laptop: it needs work before I can merge it, mostly in updatedatabase.pl
13:41 gmcharlt      please review changes from colin re update database fixes
13:41 hdl_laptop    those changes should be taken into account.
13:42 hdl_laptop    It is a rebase on top of master.
13:42 gmcharlt      and fix the ersatz extra "3.01.00.102" and ersatz '3.02.00.015'
13:42 gmcharlt      a rebase is not completely magical - you still have to ensure that changes the updatedatabase.pl make sense
13:44 CGI562        how do you link/specify a file from your local system with Koha?
13:45 gmcharlt      CGI562: you can add an 856 field to a bib record pointing to the resource, assuming it's available over the web
13:45 hdl_laptop    gmcharlt: Just saw those two ersatz.
13:46 chris_n       jwagner: when xslt is enabled in the detail view, a 'Contents:' tag is displayed directly below the 'Related Subjects' tag
13:46 hdl_laptop    And also the diff on updatedatabase.
13:46 hdl_laptop    gmcharlt: Is a patch fixing those on top ok ?
13:46 CGI562        i am new to koha and i have some pdf files on my system that i want to paths into koha
13:47 gmcharlt      hdl_laptop: yes, I can pull again when you have it ready
13:47 CGI562        what do you mean by 856 field to a bib record
13:47 hdl_laptop    gmcharlt: this branch was not meant to be out today.
13:47 gmcharlt      ?
13:48 gmcharlt      do you want me to hold off pulling from it?
13:48 hdl_laptop    gmcharlt: i wanted to have it tested.
13:48 gmcharlt      hdl_laptop++
13:49 gmcharlt      CGI562: a bibliographic record stores information about a title you have in the catalog.  Koha stores bib records in somethign called MARC format
13:49 CGI562        gmcharlt, please give me insight into what you mean by 856 field to a bib record
13:49 gmcharlt      and MARC uses numeric tags to identify fields
13:49 gmcharlt      if you're using the US/Australian/Canadia/British/etc of MARC called MARC21
13:49 gmcharlt      tag 245 holds the title, for instance
13:49 CGI562        i am all ear
13:50 gmcharlt      tag 856 is designated for a URL
13:50 gmcharlt      so if you have a PDF located at http://yourserver.org/pdfs/1.pdf for example
13:50 gmcharlt      you can add an 856 to a bib record with that URL in a subfield $u
13:50 CGI562        ok
13:50 gmcharlt      and Koha will display that bib in the catalog interface with a hyperlink
13:51 gmcharlt      hdl_laptop: how long, then?
13:51 hdl_laptop    So that I will try to have it for tomorrow
13:52 owen          Just updated to the latest HEAD and I'm getting this error from admin/preferences.pl: Can't locate C4/Bookfund.pm in @INC
13:52 gmcharlt      ok
13:52 CGI562        where is your pdfs directory located on your system? Is it at the koha document root or what is the koha document root?
13:53 CGI562        gmcharlt, where is your pdfs directory located on your system? Is it at the koha document root or what is the koha document root?
13:53 gmcharlt      that's essentially up to you - you can configure Apache to create a directory for them
13:53 gmcharlt      I would recommend keeping them outside of the Koha document root, actually
13:54 gmcharlt      hdl_laptop: re owen's query, is there a new_acq equivalent to GetLocalCurrency()?
13:54 CGI562        ok
13:55 CGI562        gmcharlt, thanks, i shall try your recommendations and get back to you. But are you always online?
13:56 gmcharlt      CGI562: heh - no, but there are always lots of people on #koha
13:56 schuster      When it comes to MARC records there are several of us here that might be able to help you - he was just faster on the draw today!
13:56 jwagner       Also see the LC standard for MARC records at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ecbdhome.html
13:57 schuster      Or you can post to koha-discuss or koha-dev and you will get responses to questions on the forum.
13:57 schuster      goodone jwagner...
13:57 gmcharlt      koha-discuss? what list be that?
13:58 gmcharlt      CGI562: the Library of Congress has a tutorial on MARC as well - http://www.loc.gov/marc/umb/
13:58 gmcharlt      schuster: the main koha mailing list I assume, not a new list actually called koha-discuss?
14:01 schuster      Yes gmcharlt the general mailing list - it comes up for me as koha-discuss - http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
14:02 gmcharlt      owen: I've pusehd a patch that should fix that problem
14:02 owen          Thanks gmcharlt
14:03 gmcharlt      @later tell pianohacker will you have a chance to update the new sysprefs page for the new_acq and other new preferences?
14:03 munin`        gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
14:17 owen          gmcharlt: I'm still getting the same error after updating
14:20 gmcharlt      owen: still complaing about C4::Bookfund?
14:20 owen          Oh, sorry I'm not paying attention well enough. Now it's complaining about Budget.pm
14:21 CGI562        please, is this link for koha related problems alone or general programming problems?
14:21 gmcharlt      owen: sorry - try again
14:22 owen          CGI562: Which link? The Koha mailing list? It's for Koha related problems.
14:23 owen          Now it's "Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/admin/preferences.pl line 46."
14:25 gmcharlt      owen: is there an active currency defined in your database - currency where active = 1?
14:25 schuster      CGI562 - if you have specific programming issues there is a list for development as well - http://lists.koha.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel
14:25 owen          gmcharlt: No
14:26 schuster      go owen go owen...  We know you can do it!!  Blaze the trail for the rest of us thank you!
14:30 * jwagner     hands schuster a cheerleader's pom-pom :-)
14:30 gmcharlt      pictures, please
14:32 schuster      http://image.orientaltrading.com/otcimg/12_9061.jpg?resize(120x120) - I don't have a good picture of owen or I'd work up something better...
14:33 schuster      http://miburl.com/23Oytq
14:33 gmcharlt      owen: third time's a charm, hopefully
14:33 jwagner       Heh.  I'll settle for detailed notes from owen :-)
14:34 CGI562        thank you everybody, i will be back some other time, let me try the adding of records on koha as recommended by gmcharlt.
14:34 owen          "Global symbol "$currency" requires explicit package name at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/admin/preferences.pl line 48."
14:36 * gmcharlt    redefines "third" to mean "fourth"
14:36 gmcharlt      try again
14:36 owen          Success
14:37 owen          Yay new system prefs!
14:37 gmcharlt      owen++ # you're one patient dude
14:38 jwagner       Yay owen!
14:38 owen          What am I supposed to do, storm off in a huff? :)
14:38 gmcharlt      there would be precedent for that ;)
14:38 jwagner       Some of us (cough cough) have been known to do that....
14:39 * chris_n     throws xslt out the window
14:40 jwagner       chris_n, I hope it was a high window!
14:40 owen          :D
14:40 chris_n       hehe
14:40 * jdavidb     storms off in a huff, just for practice.
14:40 chris_n       I figure there is either a bug in the style sheet or in XML::LibXSLT
14:41 chris_n       but don't have time to a) learn xslt foo and b) debug Koha's xslt foo
14:41 schuster      I usually just get a headache from banging my head on the monitor or desk - why won't this work why won't this work...  What am I doing wrong...
14:41 jwagner       Which version, and what are you doing? (Still trying for the 505$t?)
14:42 chris_n       jwagner: ver: HEAD
14:42 chris_n       and still trying fro 505$t
14:42 chris_n       the parsed xml record has the $t subfields formatted exactly as other subfields
14:43 chris_n       but after the template is applied they magically disappear
14:43 * chris_n     mistakenly thought that using xslt would be easier than modifying templates :-P
14:44 jwagner       I dunno then -- haven't really looked at HEAD.  Is this for staff or OPAC side, incidentally?
14:44 chris_n       well, they do not disappear entirely, because the conditional evals true so the "Contents" tag is displayed, just not the subfield data
14:44 chris_n       OPAC
14:45 chris_n       but when turned on it appears to affect staff client as well
14:45 * chris_n     wonders if it is safe to rebase now?
14:47 gmcharlt      chris_n: the branch has stabilized for the moment - hdl_laptop will have some new_acq stuff for me to pull tomorrow, but other than that and bugfixes, HEAD is now 3.2-alpha-candidate
14:47 gmcharlt      obviously, practice good Git hygiene and merge into a new branch first before trying to merge in your feature branches
14:49 chris_n       gmcharlt++
14:50 schuster      OK so I have a question - if I have a database say 3.0.32(LL release numbers) can I take that database and  load it into 3.0.100?
14:50 kf            hi #koha
14:51 Colin         gmcharlt: nice to see HEAD above water
14:51 gmcharlt      schuster: if LL hasn't made too many changes in the 3.0.x series, it would be worth trying, but *only*, I repeat, *only*, in a test database
14:59 schuster      have to get a good backup first!  ok thanks - yes test only!
14:59 owen          Uh oh, no Amazon dev key system pref anymore?
15:00 owen          AWSPrivateKey
15:04 owen          Or is it just not listed?
15:04 gmcharlt      owen: likely just not listed
15:05 gmcharlt      note that admin/systempreferences was *not* removed, so it provides a gateway to more advanced or less common config settings
15:05 owen          But the old method for adding a new system pref doesn't work anymore, correct?
15:06 gmcharlt      you can still add them, but they won't automatically show up in the new interface
15:11 chris_n       gmcharlt: don't they show up under "Local Use" or has that changed?
15:14 gmcharlt      chris_n: looking at it, it appears they should
16:08 jwagner       owen++ for lots of bug fixes/reports today
16:09 owen          Cleaning house!
16:09 jwagner       Can you come over to my place???
16:09 owen          :P
16:16 owen          Using single-serving git branches + careful bug reporting = much better patch tracking
16:18 slef          the word for the day is nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh
16:18 slef          :)
16:18 jwagner       You're having one of those days too, huh?
16:19 slef          that, only more so
16:19 slef          one of our members is offlined by broken network kit
16:19 slef          one of our clients is moving their servers and the first we knew was when our monitoring console lit up like a xmas tree
16:20 slef          sure there's other stuff too but my mind is blotting it out to save me going nuts
16:21 jwagner       Ouch.  Sounds painful :-(
16:26 kf            jwagner: hi jwagner, have a little time?
16:26 kf            little bit of time? cant think or speak English today
16:26 jwagner       sure, I just may not have much brain to go with it....
16:44 owen          gmcharlt: If I submitted a patch that doesn't seem to have made it into HEAD by now is it safe to say I should resumbit it?
16:44 gmcharlt      no, just email me the link to it
16:46 owen          The link to the Bugzilla page?
16:47 schuster      can we have bug 3607 recatagorized from enhancement to an actual bug?
16:48 gmcharlt      owen: that or the mail archive link
16:50 schuster      I'm almost giddy over 3394...  Did that make it into 3.2?
16:50 gmcharlt      @bug 3394
16:50 munin`        gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3394 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, items batch edition
16:50 gmcharlt      yes
16:51 chris_n       @bug 3607
16:51 munin`        chris_n: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3607 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Lost item returned credit to borrower - but can't resolve credit
16:52 schuster      Just made my day...  can't wait to play and test it.
16:53 schuster      Is there a way to safely clear logs that were turned on for circ/cataloging tracking?
16:58 schuster      I'm making a list of my favorite @ munin commands...
16:58 * jwagner     wonders if there's a way to mingle git blame with munin commands....
17:01 schuster      @wunder 75074 - now Friday will be a whole different wunder.
17:01 munin`        schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 14.0�C (10:44 AM CST on January 27, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Rising).
17:03 kf            ColinC: the King's Fund library opac looks really nice :)
17:04 owen          kf, what's the link?
17:04 kf            http://kingsfund.koha-ptfs.eu/
17:06 ColinC        Yes. All their own work, we can't take any credit for it
17:06 jwagner       Stylesheet changes?
17:07 kf            I like the effect of the background pictues
17:07 ColinC        Yes, bringing it in line with their other web pages
17:08 jwagner       I've putzed a little bit with some stylesheet changes through the syspref.  (background color of toolbar, etc.)Someday I'm going to have to learn how to do a major change.  If owen ever teaches a class, I'll be the first to sign up :-)
17:09 ColinC        if Owen teaches a class there will be a stampede to sign up
17:09 kf            http://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/
17:09 owen          It'd be fun to do a class that was a case-study on a particular customization job
17:09 kf            thats our most customized opac so far
17:09 jwagner       owen, I have some candidates :-)
17:10 jwagner       kf, looks nice!
17:11 kf            thx :)
17:12 magnus        ColinC: lookin' good! what's the "advanced features" link at top right?
17:12 ColinC        kf: It's a nice looking site
17:13 kf            I tried, but some things are still missing (text and pictueres on start page)
17:13 kf            yes, I wondered about the advanced features too :)
17:15 nengard       Woo Hoo!! pianohacker's new sys prefs module is in HEAD!! I love it!!
17:15 nengard       I have so much documenting to catch up with now that we have so many new commits
17:15 ColinC        advanced features takes you to the user login page
17:16 ColinC        they are looking to integrate some of their other searches there
17:16 magnus        nengard: yours is a never ending task... :-)
17:16 nengard       magnus - i know it sounds crazy - but i kind of like it that way - always something to do :)
17:17 magnus        ColinC: i see, just curious...
17:17 magnus        nengard: we like it that way to - it means koha is moving in the right direction: forward ;-)
17:18 ColinC        I think they want to give their registered users access to some electronic resources
17:18 nengard       the other thing i have to do now is test all of my bugs and close them
17:18 nengard       everyone - remember to do that so that we don't have a bunch of open bugs that are actually fixed
17:18 magnus        ColinC: that's an interesting thought
17:19 magnus        ColinC: but would being logged in give access to the resources, or would it just display links to resources that are controlled by IP or something similar?
17:20 Ropuch        `We're thinking about soemthing similar
17:20 Ropuch        I mean: electronic resources for LAN & logged users outside it
17:21 ColinC        It would give access. Possibly to a seach the xxx docs
17:21 magnus        cool
17:22 jwagner       Having some functionality built into Koha that can check for user login & display links/pages accordingly would be useful, and the bones are already there -- you don't see the Place Hold link until you log in, for instance.
17:23 jwagner       It would be nice to define that for other elements.
17:23 kf            ok, time to go home - bye koha and a nice morning/day/evening :)
17:25 jwagner       It would also be useful to have some kind of structure where sites could define what they wanted to appear on their masthead, for example, without customizing the masthead.inc file.  A list of entries with links, that the inc file could run through & display based on login status if desired.
17:25 magnus        jwagner: any particular elements you are thinkng of?
17:26 jwagner       Coming from the Unicorn world, we had the ability to define gateway elements, like predefined searches, links to home page, links to subscription databases, etc.  Depending on the settings in the gateway element, the link would show up without customizing the actual page file.
17:28 jwagner       Right now in Koha, sites can put things in the OPACNav or block sysprefs, but they only show on the main page.  To get a link to show on every page requires customizing the masthead.inc file.
17:29 magnus        ah, i get your point
17:29 jwagner       Giving the individual library more control over the display, without the need to customize the code.
17:30 chris_n       jwagner: how about a syspref to override the default masthead with a user-supplied one?
17:31 jwagner       Maybe not all the masthead (no problem with keeping the search box, etc.) -- just a way to add links to it painlessly.
17:31 owen          There is a system pref for specifying a custom include folder
17:31 owen          intranet_includes
17:31 jwagner       owen, how would that work?  Am clueless in that area :-)
17:32 owen          I've never tested it myself, but as I understand it you specify a custom directory there, and any include file you put there overrides the default one
17:32 jwagner       intranet_includes would be just staff client, correct?  No equivalent for OPAC?
17:32 jwagner       Ah, kind of like the Unicorn pages_custom directory tree.
17:32 owen          Oh yeah.. Hm.
17:33 * owen        wonders what change the the intranet prompted that preference but not the same in the OPAC
17:34 jwagner       Would need to check the code, but I've run into a couple of sysprefs that control both staff & OPAC.  Maybe this is one?
17:35 jwagner       I might take a look at that, though.  I've customized the masthead for a couple of sites, which is going to cause problems with upgrades.  If I could copy off those custom versions & replace the default one, that would make life easier.
17:38 jwagner       But I think I'll go have lunch first....
17:41 * owen        concludes that the intranet_includes preference is a recipe for disaster
17:42 jwagner_lunch Why so?
17:45 owen          I don't know how it's *supposed* to work, but trying it out resulted in *no* includes working correctly
17:53 hdl_laptop    jwagner_lunch: owen we could also load custom js files to add custom links rather than changing templates.
17:54 chris_n       so what is the difference between that and using the 'themes/opacthemes' preference?
18:17 jwagner       I've never tried the themes setting -- what does it do?
18:20 chris_n       jwanger: basically you duplicate everything from, say, koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog to koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/foo
18:20 chris_n       then 'foo' will show up in the select list for 'opacthemes'
18:21 chris_n       where you can select it and that template set now applies
18:21 chris_n       the same is true for staff 'themes'
18:24 jwagner       Sounds complicated.  You have to duplicate everything, even if you only want to customize a few things?
18:25 chris_n       it is the best way currently if you want to do things like mess with masthead.inc
18:25 chris_n       of course you can run over git and simply deal with merge conflicts by hand when they occur
18:26 jwagner       That's what we've been doing -- maintain a branch with the customizations & deal with merge conflicts as needed.
18:26 jwagner       If there's a better way, I'm all ears :-)
18:34 hdl_laptop    gmcharlt: chris_n I have some errors in kohastructure.sql owed to creator_batch
18:34 hdl_laptop    ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 1027: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'USING BTREE, KEY `branch_fk_constraint` (`branch_code`), KEY `item_fk_constr' at line 9
18:34 nengard       owen around?
18:43 chris_n       hdl_laptop: kohastructure.sql from HEAD loads fine here
18:43 hdl_laptop    chris_n : which  mysql version ?
18:44 Ropuch        I have some issues when upgrading from 3.00.5
18:44 hdl_laptop    chris_n it is all about USING BTREE
18:44 hdl_laptop    Ropuch: which ?
18:44 chris_n       hdl_laptop: BTREE is not important here, you can remove it if that is the issue
18:45 chris_n       mysql here is 5.1
18:45 hdl_laptop    I can... But I think it SHOULD be remove since that causes issues with mysql5.0
18:45 hdl_laptop    and i have seen no information about change in mysql version required for Koha.
18:47 chris_n       I agree... it was an unintentional mistake due to the fact that I'm running over 5.1
18:48 hdl_laptop    chris_n I FULLY understand.
18:49 chris_n       I'm glad someone caught it
18:49 hdl_laptop    and it is why 3.2 will be ALPHA released soon. and not officially released :D
18:49 hdl_laptop    i am glad to have caught this.
18:49 * chris_n     would like more people to beta the label and card creator :-)
18:50 * chris_n     finds it interesting that XP Home has an administrator account with no default password
18:51 jwagner       XP Home had security holes you could drive a Mack Truck through, if I remember correctly.  I run XP Pro with lots of other security on top.
18:51 jwagner       (no, I have no plans to go to Windows 7 yet)
18:51 Ropuch        hdl_laptop: http://koha.pastebin.com/m592d46e4
18:52 chris_n       jwagner: this is on a student laptop... infected with various nasties.... I wonder why... ;-)
18:53 jwagner       Gee, I dunno....  One of my lifelong (well, at least 20+ years) dreams has been to get Bill Gates in a damp, dark cellar and have a little chat with him.
18:53 hdl_laptop    Ropuch you went to 3.2 and not 3.0.5
18:53 hdl_laptop    hehe
18:54 hdl_laptop    you should checkout branch 3.0.x and not master branch
18:55 Ropuch        hdl_laptop: I as actually testing upgrading from 3.0.5 to master (if only budgets would upgrade without errors, i would switch to 3.2 in no time)
18:56 hdl_laptop    you spoke about 3.0.5  not 3.2
18:56 Ropuch        I said "when upgrading _from_ 3.00.5"
18:56 Ropuch        Oh, nevermind, simple misurdenstanding [;
18:57 Ropuch        *misunderstanding
18:58 hdl_laptop    oh. those errors are quite understandable, since 3.2 got its own updatedatabase and there are duplicate fields
19:00 Ropuch        I managed to get rid of duplicates & synatx errors, but other things are beyond my perl/sql understanding
19:01 Ropuch        Gosh, another misspelled word
19:04 schuster      jwagner - what you and owen were discussing earlier about custom themes that is what we are doing here in plano with Elementary, Middle School, High School pac accounts
19:04 magnus_       i get the USING BTREE error doing a fresh install from head, on mysql 5.0.51a-24+lenny2
19:04 schuster      106.catalog.pisd.edu - elementary 054.catalog.pisd.edu - Middle School - Owen did most of the setup for the templates and we just tweak as we go.
19:07 jwagner       schuster, so you have replicated the opac-tmpl tree for each one?
19:08 owen          schuster's setup is called a "multi-opac" setup, and it's not done with alternate themes, only alternate CSS
19:09 jwagner       Oh, yea, I think we talked about this once before.  That's easier to manage.  I'm trying to visualize how the themes setup would work with upgrades -- do you have to upgrade each tree manually?
19:09 chris_n       magnus: you need to remove the USING BTREE directives from kohastructure.sql beginning about line 1027 or so
19:09 chris_n       magnus_ too
19:09 owen          Trying to maintain an alternate set of templates is a bitch. I've done, it; I don't recommend it.
19:10 magnus        thanks, chris_n
19:10 jwagner       How did you do the little tabs across the top?  Separate .inc file & just add a call to it into the template?
19:11 owen          jwagner: It's all done with the opacheader system pref, but the alternate stylesheets show and hide different sections of the header
19:11 chris_n       magnus: I think hdl_laptop is formatting up a patch to remove those directives, so that should go away shortly
19:12 magnus        chris_n: sounds like a good idea ;-)
19:12 jwagner       owen, neat.  So all the code for the little tabs, plus the labels & links, all goes in the syspref?
19:12 jwagner       That actually would be a good approach to what I was talking about earlier -- a site-defined list of links to appear on every page.
19:32 magnus        i got rid of the BTREEs but now i get this: ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 1047: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'UNIQUE KEY `image_name_index` (`image_name`) ) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=utf' at line 6
19:32 magnus        44 tables have been created
19:35 chris_n       magnus: the second schema load was on an empty database?
19:35 magnus        yep, i droped the whole database and then recreated it
19:36 magnus        dropped, even
19:37 chris_n       check to be sure you still have a comma at the end of line 1051
19:38 chris_n       ie. PRIMARY KEY (`image_id`),
19:39 magnus        chris_n: i think that was it. you rock!
19:40 * chris_n     breaths a sigh of relief :-)
19:47 magnus        chris_n: yup, got all the way through the installer now, thanks for helping
19:48 schuster      Question on holds - is there an easy way to get the select a specific copy button set as the default rather than first available?  Or which template etc... would I have to edit to change that?
19:49 chris_n       magnus: np, always glad to help (especially when the hangup is in my code) ;-)
19:50 magnus        chris_n: and this time the error was mine - so you wasn't to blame at all... ;-)
19:52 thd           chris_n: Is chris_n2 there?
19:53 chris_n       heh, chris_n is present atm
19:54 thd           chris_n: are you chris_n2 at home or in some other context?
19:54 chris_n       at home
19:54 * chris_n     thinks one should be able to log into the channel with the same nick from multiple locations
19:55 thd           you could log in with the same nick from multiple locations if you logged in to one remote system from more than one location
19:56 thd           One option would be to use an IRC proxy such as bip
19:56 chris_n       as in vpn and remote desktop?
19:56 chris_n       or?
19:57 magnus        thinks chris does something like that
19:57 * chris_n     betrays his lack of irc knowledge
19:57 thd           I like bip myself
19:57 chris_n       and bip is what sort of software/creature/foo?
19:58 thd           Unfortunately, my ISP does not provide good remote access to my home system running bip without business level service.
19:58 thd           bip is an IRC proxy
19:58 chris_n       ahh... I'll have to take a look sometime
19:59 magnus        http://bip.t1r.net/ ?
19:59 thd           There is an older IRC proxy but it has not had much development recently
20:00 thd           I adopted bip because the project does not seem to be stagnant
20:01 Ropuch        Screen + irssi  is the best irc duet ever ;>
20:02 thd           At one time, the Debian package was missing the helpful configuration script.
20:02 thd           Ropuch: you can use irssi or any other client with bip
20:03 thd           bip has much better logging facility than irsssi
20:14 chris_n       is 500$a not repeatable by the loc standard?
20:15 gmcharlt      use the source :) http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/concise/bd500.html - 500 tag is repeatable, subfield $a within a 500 is not
20:15 chris_n       ahh... so NR means "Not Repeatable"...
20:16 * chris_n     was looking here: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd500.html
20:16 gmcharlt      yep
20:40 thd           chris_n: repeat the field 500 instead of the subfield $a or find a better more purpose specific specific notes field instead of repeating the 500.
21:07 hdl_laptop    gmcharlt: patches on updatedatabase done
21:07 gmcharlt      hdl_laptop: branch ready to pull?
21:07 hdl_laptop    still need some testing
21:08 hdl_laptop    I was some rebasing crap.
21:08 hdl_laptop    I saw even.
21:27 hdl_laptop    gmcharlt: seems that authorised_values link has been removed from master
21:28 gmcharlt      sigh - have you identified the offending commit?
21:33 hdl_laptop    not yet
21:34 hdl_laptop    gmcharlt: Can you confirm members/notices.pl and members/messaging is the same ?
21:37 hdl_laptop    gmcharlt: about authorised values, it was just moving the link
21:37 hdl_laptop    not removing it
21:37 hdl_laptop    so it is ok
21:37 gmcharlt      members/notices.pl seems redundant, but you're the one who added it :)
21:40 nod           re using same nick from different locations, using irssi in a screen session on a box somewhere works pretty well
23:07 moodaepo      @wunder 56001
23:07 munin`        moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -12.1�C (5:00 PM CST on January 27, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -21.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Rising).  Wind Chill Advisory in effect from 9 PM this evening to 10 am CST Thursday...
23:12 chris_n2      @wunder 28334
23:12 munin`        chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 7.0�C (6:02 PM EST on January 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising).
23:12 chris_n2      looks like you'd better throw another log on the fire moodaepo
23:15 chris_n2      gmcharlt about?
23:16 moodaepo      chris_n2: You betcha : )
23:16 moodaepo      @wunder 93117
23:16 munin`        moodaepo: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.8�C (3:12 PM PST on January 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Steady).
23:17 moodaepo      Well it's nearly the usual...twice as worse as it's for brendan
23:18 * moodaepo    goes off to brave the wicked winds.
23:20 * chris_n2    hopes moodaepo fares well
23:21 chris_n2      it seems that the opac-detail.pl 'Subject(s)' links are malformed
23:21 chris_n2      ie. http://kohadev.localhost/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=su:Art
23:22 chris_n2      should be http://kohadev.localhost/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=su&q=Art
23:29 chris_n2      bbl
23:39 gmcharlt      chris_n2: hi