Time Nick Message 00:25 chris yep he does now :) 00:29 russ chris: when is your talk? 00:31 chris tomorrow 00:31 chris 1.30pm 00:31 russ right 00:31 chris should be live streamed 00:31 * russ just found the miniconf programmes 00:31 chris nice 00:31 chris i think im just going with 1 slide 00:31 chris 15 mins .... you dont need slides 00:33 russ yeah nice 01:42 chris hiya brendan 01:43 brendan hey chris 01:43 brendan how you doing? 01:43 * chris is in a talk about accessibility and FOSS 01:43 brendan was your linux conf.. good? 01:43 chris just started today, finishes on friday 01:43 brendan ahh I see you're there now 01:44 brendan one more day at ALA then back home for me 01:44 chris ah cool, hows it going? 01:44 brendan tired of standing :) 01:44 brendan some good things some not so good 01:44 chris yeah, i hear that, that's always the worst part of exhibiting 01:44 chris yeah, ive been hearing that too :( 01:44 brendan PTFS koha party going on right now... so good for koha spreading 01:44 chris cool 01:44 brendan hopefully 01:45 * brendan too tired to crash 01:45 brendan err... to tired going to crash 01:45 chris fair enough :) 02:54 brendan @wunder 93117 02:54 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.1�C (6:48 PM PST on January 17, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Falling). Flash Flood Watch in effect from Monday morning through late Monday night for the recent burn areas... 02:54 brendan @wunder 02140 02:54 munin brendan: The current temperature in Emerson St. Across from Police Station, Medford, Massachusetts is 3.4�C (9:52 PM EST on January 17, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 10 am EST Monday... 03:36 Amit heya brendan, chris 03:36 Amit good morning #koha 03:50 pongtawat Hello #koha 03:50 pongtawat May I ask about translation here? 03:53 russ sure, but some eyes are not watching at the moment :-) 03:53 russ so we can try, but may direct you to the translate list 03:54 pongtawat Ok 03:54 richard you might be better to ask on the translation mailing list - http://lists.koha.org/mailman/listinfo 03:54 pongtawat My team has translate Koha into Thai language 03:54 pongtawat But we have to it offline, translating the PO file. 03:55 pongtawat Now I would like to submit that to Koha 03:55 russ right 03:55 russ have you seen - http://translate.koha.org/th/ 03:55 pongtawat The point is, we were translating 3.0.1, and now it is 3.0.5 03:56 pongtawat I'm looking at that and wondering how could we submit our translation 03:56 russ if my memory serves me, you should just upload it 03:56 russ most of it will be the same 03:56 russ i think it will attempt a merge 03:56 * russ checks 03:57 pongtawat So, we will try 03:57 pongtawat Thank you :) 03:57 russ yeah just choose 3.0.X and upload your file 03:57 russ thanks for the translation :-) 04:04 pongtawat Is the translation history logged? 04:07 pongtawat If I remember correctly, our team have done OPAC translation online. 04:08 pongtawat But the current translation seems to be a little bit different in many places. 04:11 pongtawat So, I would like to know if it our translation edited by someone, or it is somebody else translation entirely 04:14 russ ah you should be able to see something under the news tab 04:14 russ for that "project" 04:15 russ sorry - not sure on that front 04:16 russ pongtawat: did you try uploading your po file? 04:17 pongtawat not yet 04:17 pongtawat I just fear I will mess it up :P 04:17 pongtawat So, I just check the diff first 04:19 russ right - i wouldnt worry about it too much 04:19 russ if you check Merge the file with the current file and turn conflicts into suggestions 04:19 russ then it would be pretty easy to see them all 04:20 russ anyway - hometime 04:21 russ pongtawat: if you have any concerns, put them in an email to the translate list :-) 04:21 russ i am sure someone will get back to you 04:22 pongtawat Ok, thank you. I will try to merge it as suggest. And we will review them again. 04:22 pongtawat Thank you. 04:23 pongtawat BTW, the one who will be handling translation is neelawat, in case you need to track it :) 05:48 greenmang0 indradg: good morning :) 05:48 indradg greenmang0, morning! :) 06:33 Amit heya indradg 06:33 indradg Amit, hola 06:58 Amit heya nicomo 06:58 nicomo hello Amit 07:11 Ropuch Morning #koha 07:23 greenmang0 @wunder mumbai 07:23 munin greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 29.0�C (12:10 PM IST on January 18, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). 08:04 indradg @wunder kolkata 08:04 munin indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 16.0�C (1:20 PM IST on January 18, 2010). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). 08:10 paul_p hello world. 08:11 * paul_p not very optimistic after reading tweets from vickyteal about LLEK/PTFS 08:12 chris ill settle for being able to edit the website short term, i dont mind giving them time to sort out the rest, and if they want to run LLEK as LLEK .. thats fine, just give the community rights on the website, and don't call it opensource until you release it 08:13 paul_p chris++ starting with access to koha.org is a VERY good idea ! 08:14 paul_p easy to do, (almost) nothing related to business & business model, probably the best way to show their good behaviour (or not) 08:16 chris exactly 08:16 chris and then they can take time to sort out their business plan 09:18 nahuel chilts, 09:18 nahuel chris, 09:18 nahuel hi 09:18 nahuel are you around , 09:18 nahuel ? 09:20 Amit heya nahuel 09:20 nahuel hi Amit 09:20 nahuel gmcharlt, around ? 09:21 chris hi nahuel 09:49 slef hrm, why are nz conferences on so damn early ;-) 09:51 chris slef: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/30541/1090/ 09:53 slef chris: jberkus is or was one of board@spi-inc 09:54 chris he was a pretty good speaker, the talk was funny 09:54 Amit hi self 09:54 Amit hi slef 09:54 slef hi all 09:55 * slef boggles at "Shipping Method: Bicycle" on his order for a bicycle 09:59 chris heh 10:01 chris right i should get some sleep, doesnt look good to fall asleep while presenting 10:01 chris night all 10:02 slef heh 10:02 slef night 10:14 nahuel chris, do you know how to use git request-pull ? 10:21 CGI695 5 January 2010 09:00:08 Action: Message Accepted Client: 18.104.22.168 From: 10:21 CGI695 root@MOODLEKOHA.mydomain.com 10:21 CGI695 To: mainuser@MOODLEKOHA.mydomain.com Subject: Cron <root@MOODLEKOHA> /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z -v 2> /usr/share/koha/Rebuild.out Size: 1719 10:21 CGI695 Can anyone help out with an email loop problem we are having? We had to shut down the smtp service on koha because of mails coming from here: 10:21 CGI695 5 January 2010 09:00:08 Action: Message Accepted Client: 22.214.171.124 From: 10:21 CGI695 root@MOODLEKOHA.mydomain.com 10:21 CGI695 To: mainuser@MOODLEKOHA.mydomain.com Subject: Cron <root@MOODLEKOHA> /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z -v 2> /usr/share/koha/Rebuild.out Size: 1719 10:22 CGI695 Sorry about the multi-posts, not sure how that happened 10:34 slef CGI695: which smtp service software? 10:35 CGI695 The mail service on the Koha box. It sends out emails from the address above to a local server (relay) but the source and destination are the same and the SMTP server goes into a loop and eventually crashes 10:36 slef CGI695: yes, but what is the SMTP server software? I think you need to fix that mail loop problem, else regardless of what you do to Koha, you've a way for someone to denial-of-service attack your email server. 10:37 slef CGI695: on the cron site, adding MAILTOfirstname.lastname@example.org to the koha crontab will change where it is sending the report. 10:37 slef CGI695: cron side, even 10:38 slef put MAILTOemail@example.com (replacing firstname.lastname@example.org) on the line before the rebuild_zebra cron line 10:38 slef check "man 5 crontab" for details I think 10:38 CGI695 It's an exchange server. But the problem is that the ex server doesn't know where to send the mail to and tries to reply to the sender but it can't get back to the sender. I think, I need to modify the source addresses 10:38 slef what is the smtp server software on the Koha server? 10:39 slef If it is a debian server, /etc/email-addresses may let you set a different source address for root 10:39 slef but really having an exchange server doing SMTP is not good IMO. 10:40 CGI695 yeah, it debian alright. The problem seems to be a huge amount of emails are being generated from the Koha server though. The Exchange Server is the clients, I can't change that, I'm afraid, more is the pitty! 10:41 slef a huge amount of emails is either something breaking messily or something not quite tuned to succeed silently. 10:42 CGI695 OK. Any ideas where I might start to find out which? 10:42 slef I'd start by reading the emails, so modify the source address for root in /etc/email-addresses 10:43 CGI695 But I can't see the emails as the are not being delivered, they are looping 10:43 slef alternatively, run the cron jobs from the commandline, but there may be environment differences which will hide the reason 10:43 CGI695 Oh wait, I see what you mean now 10:43 slef well, get the emails delivered somehow 10:44 slef even if it means reconfiguring the debian server not to relay for a while 10:44 slef so that you could read the emails with the "mailx" command-line client 10:44 slef (man mailx first if you've never used it before!0 10:44 slef ) 10:44 CGI695 Thanks, I will see how that goes! 10:44 slef I've got to pop our for a moment - hopefully someone else can take it up if needed 10:44 slef no worries 10:45 * slef returns to software.coop writing 11:25 kf hi #koha 11:31 Amit hi kf 11:32 kf hi Amit 11:42 greenmang0 hello friends.. can anybody tell me how to enable RSS in koha? 11:42 greenmang0 i used rss.pl to generate an xml file 11:42 greenmang0 it works fine 11:42 greenmang0 but in opac when i click on RSS Orange icon 11:42 greenmang0 i get xml parsing error 11:42 greenmang0 what to do?? 11:46 kf I think the opac rss feature works without a cronjob or script 11:46 kf which version are u using? 11:47 greenmang0 kf: Koha version: 3.00.01.005 11:48 kf I just tested in our installation, it works there - we are on 3.01.00.061 11:48 greenmang0 kf: oh!! 11:48 greenmang0 ok 11:48 kf I dont know if there was a bug 11:49 kf perhaps you can try an update to 3.00.05 11:49 * greenmang0 is still in 2009 11:49 greenmang0 kf: sure 11:50 chipsy hi guys, i'm having this error while trying to catalogue 11:50 chipsy Can't call method "append_fields" on an undefined value at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92. at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/i586-linux-thread-multi/XML/LibXML/SAX.pm line 80 at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/MARC/File/XML.pm line 445 11:53 kf chipsy: which version are u using? 11:54 CGI695 My koha-error log is riddled with the following: opac-search.pl: Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 1001. Should we be worried? 11:54 chipsy 3.0001005 11:59 chipsy that is the version 12:01 kf http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2009-September/020440.html 12:01 kf I googled a bit with the beginning of the error message, there are some threads and mails 12:02 kf first thing I would try is an update to current stable 3.00.05 12:47 slef collum: hi. Hope you didn't mind me grumbling at calling a flash app a webinar. 12:56 collum slef: no problem. I was using webinar of the sense of "seminar on the internet" 12:57 collum It was extremely boring. I didn't make it through it. 12:57 slef that's confusing... webinar should mean a web seminar 12:57 collum Yep. 12:57 collum I didn't realize it was flash until I clicked the link. 12:57 slef the flash app fraudsters annoy me, mostly because they usually only work correctly on microsoft windows 12:58 slef sorry to hear it was boring... a hard-to-use usability seminar? ouch 12:59 collum It's hard to keep interest in something, when you can do 5 other things. 13:03 slef I once saw a lovely comment about an online test for ADHD: "I didn't finish the test because I started clicking on the adverts on the page" 13:03 collum lol 13:38 brendan morning #koha 13:43 slef hi brendan - when did ByWater start? 13:52 chris_n g'morning #koha 13:54 slef hi chris_n, bye brendan :-/ 14:38 nengard_ slef bywater listed as official support for Koha in 2009 14:47 chris_n heya nengard_ 14:47 nengard_ hiya 14:52 chris_n wb brendan 14:53 ccurry Hello, all. 14:54 ccurry I'm having a few issues with the serials module that I think are bugs, but before I submit them I wanted to ask a few questions. One issue I'm having might be a configuration problem and I want to rule that out. 15:00 ccurry We're entering serial issues as subscriptions. In opac-detail.pl, Issue and Volume information from serial.serialseq displays correctly in the "Subscriptions" tab, but under the "Holdings" tab, the "Serial Data" field, which is also populated by serial.serialseq, is empty. The only difference between this two section of the tmpl are that the latter is wrapped in <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="serials"... 15:00 ccurry ...--> <!-- /TMPL_IF -->. 15:00 ccurry Anyone have an idea what could be causing this? 15:00 ccurry I tried removing the <!-- TMPL_IF><!-- /TMPL_IF --> with no change in display. 15:01 ccurry I know the condition is registering as true, anyway, because the columns are showing up and their presence is also conditional, depending on TMPL_IF NAME="serials" being true. 16:20 nengard_ so - seems like everyone is on vaca for the US holiday or at ALA midwinter ... very very quiet in here 16:43 paul_p hi nengard_ : frenchies still here ;-) 16:43 nengard_ :) hi paul_p 16:43 * toins too 16:44 toins hi paul_p and nengard_ 16:45 kf me too, preparing koha presentation for tomorrow 16:45 kf some hints for big public library systems with many branches? 16:45 nengard_ awesome 16:52 * chris_n is here too 16:52 chris_n hdl_laptop about? 16:53 chris_n paul_p: did hdl do the CAS work? 16:54 paul_p hi chris_n. Nope, it's matts 16:54 paul_p (not here) 16:54 chris_n ahh 16:54 paul_p chris_n: if you want to drop him a mail : matthias.meusburger at biblibre com 16:54 chris_n tnx 16:55 chris_n logging out of opac results in some sort of CAS redirect which throws an error 16:55 chris_n while running over the current HEAD 16:57 * chris_n discovers the problem 16:57 chris_n casAuthentication and casLogout are enabled by default 16:58 paul_p chris_n: mmm... we were supposed to do a patch for this one. where does your head come from ? 16:58 chris_n git.koha.org 16:58 chris_n probably not there yet 16:58 paul_p maybe the patch is not here :( 16:59 chris_n that's ok, I'll get it when galen gets the merge done 16:59 paul_p yep, hopefully ! 16:59 chris_n tnx paul 17:25 kf ok, time to leave - bye #koha! 17:32 nengard_ chris_n paul_p it's in the biblibre community branch 17:32 nengard_ the fix is that is 17:32 nengard_ so it has been patched 17:32 nengard_ just not pushed to head 17:33 chris_n great 18:19 chris yay for thomas krichel 18:19 chris given me some great talking points for today 18:29 chris_n hey chris 18:29 chris_n is your talk streaming? 18:32 chris should be 18:32 chris its only a short one, so im not doing slides, its at 1.30 nz time 18:33 chris which is in 6 hours 18:33 chris http://www.lca2010.org.nz/programme/schedule/tuesday 18:34 chris live video links should appear there in an hour or so 18:36 brendan @later tell slef ByWater started in Jan. of 2009 18:36 munin brendan: The operation succeeded. 18:37 chris http://www.lca2010.org.nz/programme/schedule/video 18:37 brendan hey chris 18:37 paul_p hi brendan 18:37 brendan hi paul_p 18:37 chris im in renouf 2 18:37 paul_p (& good bye, family time for me ;-) ) 18:37 brendan bye 18:37 chris by paul_p 18:37 chris bye even 18:37 brendan ok chris looking for you in renouf 2 18:38 chris well i will be, im at home at the moment :) 18:39 chris at 10.35 (3 hours) 18:39 brendan ah.. looks dark at the moment 18:39 brendan cool I'll look 18:39 chris mark osborne is talking about the open source school (There is a senior high school in auckland that runs everything FLOSS ) 18:40 chris they run koha, so im sure he will mention that 18:40 brendan that sounds like so much fun 18:40 chris so cost effective too 18:41 chris brb 18:49 chris ok time to catch my bus 19:54 magnus i'm trying to make two dev-installs live on the same (virtual) box - first one works like a charm, the second one refuses to give me any hits when i search the opac but i do get hits in the intranet. anyone have any experience with this? 19:54 magnus i'm on a recent install from git, running zebra 20:28 richard hi 20:29 chris_n magnus: you'll have to setup a second instance of zebra iirc 20:30 * chris_n groans at the thought of keeping two zebras in hand at the same time 20:30 chris_n I think you can run two separate instances of the daemon pointed at to different configs 20:31 chris_n you might want to search the list archives as well, as it seems the topic has been discussed there a time or two 20:31 magnus chris_n: i've done that, one a-zebra-daemon and one b-zebra-daemon 20:31 magnus search works in the intranet, so it looks like zebra is at least doing half it's job... 20:32 chris_n hmmm 20:32 chris_n I know there are people running multiple kohas on the same box 20:33 magnus i remember it being talked about on the lists, but couldn't find it at the first try, only one guy who did the whole installation a-fresh... 20:34 chris_n yuk 20:34 chris_n well, I'm afraid I'll not be much help on that one 20:34 chris_n it does not seem that opac could get confused 20:35 magnus thanks for trying, chris_n ;-) 20:35 chris_n np :-) 21:42 chris in the open source in education mini-conf now 21:42 magnus chris_n and for the record: it seems my problem with getting search results in the intranet but not in the opac was solved by putting a value in 942$n for just one of the records and reindexing. the differences between the searches was that opac was also searching 1=9011 Suppress, and since no records had any value for 942$n zebra was complaining (rather silently) about a missing index. 21:42 magnus case closed 21:42 magnus good night #koha 21:43 chris http://www.lca2010.org.nz/schedule/video/renouf-2 21:43 chris for anyone interested 21:49 chris nice plug for koha from mark osborne "The best Library system in the world" 21:53 richard bummer - http://repeater.xiph.org:8000/lca-renouf-2.ogg -> 404 21:53 chris :( 22:21 chris walter bender about to present about OLPC (remotely) 22:21 chris and sugarlabs 22:28 chris this entire room is now full of OLPC's 22:30 hdl_laptop hi chris 22:33 chris hiya hdl_laptop 22:34 hdl_laptop ahh conferences.. 22:39 chris_n2 @later tell magnus glad you solved the problem; silent fails are always a bummer 22:39 munin chris_n2: The operation succeeded.